Oh, and btw. She's the only char in the modern Tekken that doesn't have i13 or i14 mid poke. She only has it at i15.
@eckysgaming7 ай бұрын
Hoho you're back now ?
@roamalot30007 ай бұрын
Kazuya? His DF4 got changed to 14f hadn't it
@alexian467 ай бұрын
@@roamalot3000no it's 13
@TheUnfilteredOpinion7 ай бұрын
All she needed was d4. And that is i12 frames high crush. 1,2,2 was my fav -10 punisher. My go to after was d4. It only needed to happen twice before the player started to adjust...... Then its 1,2,2 into side step or just backdash or 1,2,2 into db4 to switch up the timing. 1,2,2 into df1 to float people tryna crush it, check people trying to low parry it. Df1 into d4. People will be looking to crush or low parry d4. They will not continue to get hit by it because its a stupid ugly low thats worthless. So they will adjust. When they adjust you adjust All she needed was d4. Used correctly it was all she needed.
@ahmijalza21017 ай бұрын
@@TheUnfilteredOpinion 555t5
@hatto7 ай бұрын
She might be useless but it's so nice to watch her tag combos with devil jin. It's like two birds teaming up against brawlers lol
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
so true
@GEORGIOSMGEORGIADIS47 ай бұрын
Indeed 👍👍
@LowerBlack647 ай бұрын
If she ever returns, maybe she could get some of Kazumi's stuff to better round her up. Angel is kind of a lite Mishima, and Kazumi also has some of that DNA inside her but definitely has her own unique playstyle, so mixing them up could result in an interesting take on the archetype. Who knows?
@Jordan-oi5vk7 ай бұрын
kazumi def got some mishima dna in her at one point
@SanctusBodhisattvaRex7 ай бұрын
Kazumi honestly plays more like a safe bootleg Jinpachi. Then again, Mishima style is almost universal.
@dontpetentertainment34507 ай бұрын
She needs to be redesigned a bit and made dlc in T8.
@JunKazamaFan7 ай бұрын
It just now dawned on me that Katarina straight-up stole Angel's idle stance from this game.
@Leadblast7 ай бұрын
Lol you're slow. I remarked on that years ago.
@blackopskingnumber1Ай бұрын
@@Leadblastgood for you?
@shiekastate7 ай бұрын
The ONLY redeeming thing about her was that nearly every string was a wall combo and she had really good tag assault strings for most character pairings. I played her with Devil Jin for the double Wings, but Devil Kazuya was so much better.
@Zero2547 ай бұрын
Only issue with devil kazuya was losing some strong wr options but he was still great. It's a shame Angel didn't get mid wgf because then she'd have had something going for her giving up so much oki on everything. She had safe options but a lot of really shitty filler moves. I guess props to her for having the fastest high unblockable that was great for trolling online. She had zoning tools in a game that didn't favor it if you stuck a pizza on her back. Laser and pizza hitting mid became a legit mixup if you knocked someone down.
@wildman72207 ай бұрын
Nah, her custom options were fire too.
@Leadblast7 ай бұрын
"The ONLY redeeming thing" lol you know Dr. B and True Ogre in this game have a 14f and 13f respectively frames fast df+1... and they both are much crappier than Angel. Hell I dare to say Angel is still quite decent compared to the likes of TTT2 Anna or Zafina lol. Yes she is the worst of the Mishimas in TTT2... yet still better than the bottom tier characters by a large margin... just because she still keeps her standard Mishima stuff unblemished.
@shiekastate7 ай бұрын
@Leadblast If Angel is held up by her Mishima tools, she's got no redeeming qualities because you just play the better Mishimas. And the thing is, she wasn't even held up by those tools to a respectable level; she was kept from the absolute bottom by them. Take her electric, df2, f4, and u4 away from her and she has absolutely nothing noteworthy to justify a pick beyond the look. I used her and she had some really cool tag combos and a lot of her strings were natural, but every one of them was massively unsafe and often not even worth the risk. And despite being an angel, she sounded like a demon.
@Zero2547 ай бұрын
If you know anything about real demons, they work hard to hide their demonic qualities and angels show off their scariness to put fear in demons.@@shiekastate
@PeterEgbuna-ne9bp7 ай бұрын
I hope angel somehow shows up in tekken 8
@toro28127 ай бұрын
With how devil always eclipsed angel in the tier lists, no matter the game, you might start to think that the tekken balancing team is satanic lol
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
haha true
@chiko75477 ай бұрын
I played her a bunch despite people talking about how trash she is. You didnt even mention her standing 3. Yes its a bit slow compared to magic 4s but I cant really think of counterhit tool with such an amount of range. This move for me was the biggest advantage angel had over other Mishimas.
@JustAnte95577 ай бұрын
She's useless cause her fastest mid was 15 frames, means you could disrespect her frame plus.. On top of that her backdash was abysmal.. She was unplayable, I don't remember ever losing to her
@ShiftingCloudsYT7 ай бұрын
@@JustAnte9557damn. You had to add the roast at the end? 😂😂
@TheUnfilteredOpinion7 ай бұрын
@@JustAnte9557I mained a Angel/Yoshi team that was very good. I didn't even use ewgf. I used a lot of wavedash and hellsweep though. The cd4,4 version only. The wake up were very good because they were face up feet away on the ground. You had deep dash into another hell sweep, deep dash into d1. D1 hit grounded, was mid and safe and would counter hit get up kicks and tech rollers had to block it. That was by bread and butter. Just hellsweeps, and wavedash ws4s or df1s. Untill i knew they would duck tryna block a hellsweep then boom wavedash into ws2. Its really fun. Playing Mishimas is like gambling. But some are good at gambling and others are not.
@Leadblast7 ай бұрын
@@JustAnte9557you can "disrespect" her plus frames, but a good Angel player can just keep on the defensive lol... it's not so easy as just "lemme disrespect her cus she has no 13f/14f mid" when she can just SS or punish your mistakes with EWGF or other launchers still.
@dr_salvador_games30737 ай бұрын
I know people won't see Angel a huge impact for Tekken modern but let's not forget the intro for Tekken 2 when she was there for kazuya while he was consumed with the Devil Gene and it's evil, She was the one with destiny to kill Shin Devil Kazuya instead of Jin
@yuvcharmer7 ай бұрын
Thanks for reminding me that reina is not the first female with electric (at least non canonically)
@TheMainManJr7 ай бұрын
She could be canon
@Tha-mountain7 ай бұрын
@@TheMainManJrt2 makes angle cannon
@TheMainManJr7 ай бұрын
@@Tha-mountain I thought he meant reina
@maligno16125 ай бұрын
Angel has pure Mishima style while Reina looks like she learned the basics from watching the Internet loool
@tigrisrgn40627 ай бұрын
she was such a beauty
@raimykoeiman67847 ай бұрын
Too be fair i miss angel😢. Now that we have Jun back, i really hope we get Angel back in Tekken 8❤😊
@Sunray19957 ай бұрын
To be fair. Shes my most favorite character in tekken and it makes me sad that shes forgotten. When i heared that Reina was a Mishima of some sort angel immediatly sprang to mind. I was hoping of some sort of rework and a redeeming of her of some sort, but i fear she will never ever leave the Vault of forgotten and never again playable characters again. Like gon or gunjack, sebastian and stuff... 😢
@miaimiai19837 ай бұрын
She has usually only been in Tag games since T2 but I think we have a chance in T8 seeing they are focusing more on characters like Claudio, Zafina, and Xiaoyu who want to help Jin get rid of the Devil Gene. What makes me most hopeful is the presence of Jun 😊
@blackdarkness67987 ай бұрын
Her standing 3 gives a combo on counter, her df4 on counter pushes characters on their ass, whenever i did that i got df12 or ewgf with her guaranteed The db1+2 had an extension into b1+2 fist charge, her stance 4 is basically like Devil Jin ff4, safe amd pushback, stance 1 gave on counter a combo Also b4 on its own on a standing opponent that doesnt block, floats a character in the air if you jab immediately after it
@Niforse7 ай бұрын
legit the sickest bound move ever though holy shit
@enenra64177 ай бұрын
Ah yes Angel and her tickle me elmo combos
@ignaciojohnjoy7 ай бұрын
Hear me out guys, this shows how limited T7 was I'm not sure if some of you guys noticed. She has some of Katarina's move animations We need someone to properly dissect T7 on how they cut their budget and used assets from TT2 and Tekken X Street Fighters
@Zero2547 ай бұрын
You mean Katarina has some of HER animations. Secondly people made a lot of videos about this. You can look back to earlier builds of tekken 7 and they had a ton of soul calibur assets reused and slightly edited. t7 is a much better game than it used to be for sure.
@djw_tekken84907 ай бұрын
@@marvelmediabruh he knows that same thing what henmeant in the end as if he doesnt know what comes first
@marvelmedia7 ай бұрын
@@djw_tekken8490 I guess you're right
@gennarosgueglia96277 ай бұрын
@@Zero254tekken 7 is much better, you mean better than soul calibur 6?
@Alex_Magnum7 ай бұрын
Tekken 7 had smaller budget at the start of the development thanks to ttt2.
@TheHawkeye_66_7 ай бұрын
Angel's voice is scary af imo, I don't think it fits the character, but in any case I think it's a forgotten character now everyone will remember Reina but we've forgotten about Angel ended up forgotten, so i can say.. "The Unforgettable Female Mishima"
@louisrogeau19927 ай бұрын
i think Her voice fit perfectly accurate Angels are scary and not that nice at all
@tigrisrgn40627 ай бұрын
@@louisrogeau1992yes, some biblical angels depictions were imposing, not all were scary but some were
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
:D
@miaimiai19837 ай бұрын
Her new voice/shrill battle cry was why I learned her in TTT2. She might be my favorite character in Tekken so far. Although, I could care less for the generic Angel design in T2 but loved her presence to help Kazuya not let Devil overtake him. I still believe Jin has the power of Angel as well through Jun. I hope they start emphasizing Angel and the forces of good (not just eurocentric Lars rubbish) more in this game. But they have their own story and historical narratives or whatever Tekken really is about.
@meeu7 ай бұрын
nah. i like it. it's otherworldly. Too bad the devs have no appreciation for it.
@Leadblast7 ай бұрын
People always underrate Angel and overrate how bad her flaws are. Like the lack of 15f launcher it doesn't really come into play. There are less than 10 lows in TTT2 that are exactly -15 on block so that she might feel gimped compared to most chars when it comes to WS punishment. Her WS+1,4 being 14f instead of 13f is more of a problem than WS+2 not being 15f. Not having good backdash, not having real high crushes besides db+1 (generic low jab) and d+4. Her f+3 stance mixup is still serviceable, while by no means good, f+3,1 is a reliable safe mid that causes stun on CH, likewise f+3,3 guarantees uf+4~3 (this is 4~3 but 1 frame faster in case you're asking) on CH, and on normal hit both are plus frames, not too bad. Yes they both are slow but you can use these moves for a mixup on techrolling opponent and the like. She is the worst Mishima in TTT2 but don't let that fool you into thinking she's the absolute worst char in TTT2. I've played Anna, Zafina, Dr B, True Ogre... they all feel worse than Angel. Despite having faster mids and a functional backdash and such.
@MartinKusimo7 ай бұрын
Just when I returned to Tekken 7 after a good while. And even more surprising, literally just when I was reminiscing about TTT2!
@tieradlerch.2177 ай бұрын
But her voice is biblical accurate
@DarkShadow-hy6iq7 ай бұрын
What does the bible say about Angels' voices?
@CosmicVoid4207 ай бұрын
You forgot to talk about d/f+1+2 which was like T7 Kazuya's d/b+2. A safe mid that knocks down into a guaranteed follow up. If the opponent tried to get up after it hits, they could be floated for a combo too.
@yoch53838 күн бұрын
O:46 this is heihachi DF12 from old games.
@belvet23247 ай бұрын
DF4 middle kick counter hit has very good
@irlcomplex7 ай бұрын
If Angel is a DLC character in 8 I'll be so happy
@twoshirts18425 ай бұрын
Her Ki-Charge is awesome.
@foreveruseless12927 ай бұрын
It would be cool if she had relevance in the story again lol
@neobluemage6 ай бұрын
I hope they release TTT2 Remastered for PS5/PC 🔥
@NiCoNiCoNiCola7 ай бұрын
Yo, imagine if Reina ends up being the "Angel" to Kazuya's "Devil" That would certainly make her interesting and not just Mishima Asuka
@miaimiai19837 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing since they had said Reina's theme was duality.
@TheUnfilteredOpinion7 ай бұрын
Ohh and all my tag combos with Angel/Yoshi did 70dmg. The health bar is only 140point of damage. So df1,2 db2, 2, df1+2 tag / Yoshi 1+2, 2,1+2 / Angel CD1 did 70. Ws2 same combo did 70. U4 same combo did 70dmg. All i needed was one df1,2 and i knew one more combo and they are dead. Angel was pretty good.
@hermanjohnson91807 ай бұрын
She is certainly the most beautiful. 😍
@Trebxable6 ай бұрын
Must be a tough job to be the mishimas guardian angel
@eckysgaming7 ай бұрын
I wonder who thought it was a nice idea to add a small delay to her stance before she could use her move ? Litterally almost the same reason why Tekken 5 Dragunov was bad
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
haha true
@vinceamaro13823 ай бұрын
Angel deserves a second chance in Tekken 8 now that we're gonna deal with Devil Reina.
@SSTSaiSai7 ай бұрын
2:03 is it just me or this move is similar to Azucena's F+2 1 4 right?
@ikesukari67347 ай бұрын
Despite being the worst mishima In the game I think as an overall character she's not bad in this game
@PyroInferno1107 ай бұрын
Her jab DEF wasnt better than devil jins
@georgej93667 ай бұрын
can you make a video on roger jnr or alex ?
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
I've made a video on Tekken 5 Roger jr search it on youtube
@aidanru.24697 ай бұрын
I hope Reina isn't as useless as Tag 2 Angel
@SoulStreak647 ай бұрын
Oh, and she has the worst back dash in the game. Kinda wack considering that Angel is a clone of a character that RELIES ON MOVING.
@sethakari84297 ай бұрын
Aww.
@davidchu20017 ай бұрын
her ws4 would sometimes register as 12 frame which make her ws options definitively worse than all the mishimas
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
usually mishimas are really good at punishing the opponent but not the case with her
@Leadblast7 ай бұрын
What? Angel WS+4 as 12f instead of 11f? I main her and I've never ever seen that myself. Can you mention when does that happen?
@davidchu20017 ай бұрын
@@Leadblast i think it happen when you land it at tip range, could be cause of her different animation idk
@oscarmononcle62367 ай бұрын
à l'époque j'avais beaucoup joué angel avec kazuya mais comme elle n'était pas assez forte, j'ai joué les autres Mishima.
@EXT967 ай бұрын
One of my favorite Tekken characters... am I the only one? lol
@DarkShadow-hy6iq7 ай бұрын
Yes ._.
@stevejohnson15036 ай бұрын
Nope
@applepie3387 ай бұрын
I think they made her if you wanted to play 2 Devil Jins, so they made her weak to balance it out.
@noctsickversus96325 ай бұрын
She is not even weak.
@victoriabell95467 ай бұрын
If they ever put Angel in Tekken 8, they should make her stronger or even just as balanced as Jin, Kazuya, and Devil Jin or at least have her become a sort of transformation for Jun in contrast to Kazuya story wise who doesn't want Jun's purification.
@DarkShadow-hy6iq7 ай бұрын
I would prefer unknown than angel tbh
@user-vt8yi4yr9k7 ай бұрын
I would prefer this than devil jin
@shadowknight93457 ай бұрын
Reina has a lot of slack to pick up.
@Carcosa-7 ай бұрын
Useless but also the only character I got the highest rank 💀
@TinyMeatGaang7 ай бұрын
Anyone want to play some ttt2?
@eyalrephaeli68335 ай бұрын
Still better than Tag 1 Prototype Jack
@paradoxicalnexus72467 ай бұрын
People: They have a j13 and a ff33 Me: I dunno what the fuck this terminology is I just came to beat ass
@AgentKyo7 ай бұрын
I have no idea what "WS 44 at i14" means I still desperately hope one day Angel makes a return. She was exactly the kind of female character I wanted to main for the longest time.
@vinceamaro13827 ай бұрын
WS 44 at i14 means that her move called Tsunami Kick (or Heel Cutter for me) has a 14-frame startup.
@GameOver-ou1ge7 ай бұрын
1:50 🗿
@devonh1177 ай бұрын
ngl i wouldn't mind seeing her in t8 if they fixed everything up and reduced that annoying voice. IMO she's the only true female mishima, and yes i'm counting reina as well but angel is really a mishima.
@Freemind-147 ай бұрын
I think she looks better mishima than Riena, also from the moves more useful than current devil Jin
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
current devil jin is stronger than her
@TheHawkeye_66_7 ай бұрын
I don't think.. wait the game release and Reina would be a better version compared to Angel you will see ..
@dariuswoznica34987 ай бұрын
Wish I knew how to get her. I´m too stupid to install the DLC, if et exists still...
@DarkShadow-hy6iq7 ай бұрын
Can't you just update your game?
@dariuswoznica34987 ай бұрын
@@DarkShadow-hy6iq well, I can´t navigate my PS3 rn, don´t know what´s it´s problem, but it seems not to like my router and it certainly dislikes my LAN Cable xD Gotta try and make that work in the christmas hollydays xD
@DarkShadow-hy6iq6 ай бұрын
@@dariuswoznica3498 damn
@XxxSPIKEx7 ай бұрын
What’s up with the annoying voice effects when she attacks. Is that a mod or how she sounds in game.
@DarkShadow-hy6iq7 ай бұрын
It's how she actually sounds in game
@rage87027 ай бұрын
Useless?.......it depends on how you use it.🤷🏻♂️
@kyleyu95437 ай бұрын
Aint she the good part of Kazuya?
@alphablitz79074 ай бұрын
Yah, no wonder she's weak and useless lol
@noctsickversus96325 ай бұрын
Useless ? Bullshit. She have 3 secret moves.
@noctsickversus96325 ай бұрын
She is not weak. I challange u ALL on ps3. Bring it on.
@somesandman83287 ай бұрын
there’s no reason to use her over DVJ
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
true
@meeu7 ай бұрын
fk the devs for ruining her.
@brandonspringfield28617 ай бұрын
Facts could easily be a fan fav and they want to tarnish her 🤦🏾♂️
@DarkShadow-hy6iq7 ай бұрын
They honestly butchered a lot of characters in this game tbf
@drunkengaming47822 ай бұрын
Main reason she was trash was because she had the worst backdash in the game, makes t8 even look good lol
@ambasing697 ай бұрын
Goofy ahh wavedash
@Leadblast7 ай бұрын
All wavedashes look like that.
@ambasing697 ай бұрын
@@Leadblast Nah bro they have they fists up when the Mishimas do it, this girl just puts it in her waists
@DarkShadow-hy6iq7 ай бұрын
@@ambasing69she gotta get real with that girly pose._.
@Zero678917 ай бұрын
Reina at home:
@mwkan7727 ай бұрын
:D
@TehAbdullah7 ай бұрын
Most Beautiful? She got nothing on my sweet Reina-chaan😂
@Leadblast7 ай бұрын
Lol Reina doesn't even have blonde hair. To say nothing of wings or her angel tiara lol. Besides, Reina is arrogant and smug asf. I don't think even Heihachi himself was at that level of smugness.
@miaimiai19837 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the most useless Mishima 😅
@travisscottburger97 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the most useless Mishima.
@ttosenpai98477 ай бұрын
angel is not a good looking character, and a bad character in general