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[@ElectronNinja]

As someone who designs this sort of stuff (controls), getting something to work is one thing. Getting it to work _well_ especially when there's the human component of feel and connection (ie.. flight controls) is a whole other level of tuning/design. It helps _a lot_ when the engineers involved also ride, fly, etc. Props to Bosch!

[@tonyjourneyman1944]

It's like making wine, anyone can do it....but to make a good one.....

[@pleepler]

Yup, design takes a few weeks, but several sample phases and extensive testing later, and you're in series production in 5-7 years. And praying that you won't get any serious manufacturing faults or, god forbid, the need to redesign the part after series production starts

[@----.__]

You can thank Bosch for the CAN-bus system used in vehicles as well. I used to work with one of the ex-Bosch engineers who helped design CAN-bus, he is quite possibly the smartest person I've ever met.

[@GC-xy2ec]

That's why I looove ❤❤❤ Yamaha's crossplane (big bang) motor so much. The engineers have done a superb job calibrating the electronics around that motor. Never intrusive but always there. Well done Yamaha!

[@gpaull2]

As someone who works with engineers (not the train driving kind) I can confirm that they have a hard time with the “human component of feel and connection”! 😜

[@incorrectbeans]

I bet they're not telling the full truth. It just takes two months, the rest of the time they hang around watching F9 videos.

[@riccardo1796]

2 years is the usual iter for vehicle homologation, I imagine they're just using all the time available to them before the calibration is set in stone, since it's an extra effort beyond legal requirements

[@CaptainCraigKWMRZ]

Translate to English.​@@riccardo1796

[@riccardo1796]

@@CaptainCraigKWMRZ vroom vroom need stamp from law-man Law-man take 2 years Bosch have 2 years to play wit vroom vroom

[@CaptainCraigKWMRZ]

​@@riccardo1796iter homologation, got it cause I got my GED 😂😂.

[@gunslingerspartan]

Honestly same

[@peteraugust5295]

I once worked in automatic gearbox control unit development. Mostly I was building fixtures to check gearbox parts for vibrations to ensure that they do not fail. The amount of work that goes into these components is insane. At times I was working on circuit boards that were in vibration testing for over a year already, improving their mounting points and even the location of components to ensure reliable function. Now you have to realize that in an automatic gearbox there is 100 parts like that circuit board and vibration is one of 100 influencing factors to consider in the development and you understand why there is entire city blocks dedicated to develop components like this one.

[@jonnycando]

Funny those well tested parts never make it to vehicles we can buy!

[@grossibp]

just to fail right after the guarantee or leasing period finished

[@thombike3742]

And then you buy such a miracle, supposedly tested for millions of hours and... It falls apart after a year for reasons completely unknown to the manufacturer ;) So...Someone fail his job or, as mostly it is - production parts are much more cheaper build from worse material as prototype :)

[@ghost4fly659]

@@jonnycando They do but then after all that the Penniepinchers come and take the cheaper bearings, oil, seals, heat treatment and the cheapest bidder for the electronics.

[@pleepler]

@@jonnycando Oh they do make it, rest assured that if you put a running computer into the same environment as an automatic gearbox, it wouldn't last a 2 hour drive on the highway. Now scale that to over 20000 hours. And that's a pesimistic scenario

[@rorywhyte6722]

Something Motorcycle-related which takes two years to arrive? An F9 video ;)

[@MikkelL03]

I know this is a joke, but I kinda wanna imply that it takes very, very, very, very long to set up, produce, film and edit a video with so high quality. It isn't just a motovlog with some dude riding around the city and speaking about random blring stuff

[@martin4670]

Heyhey lets not make them lower production value🤣

[@jamesnapper2876]

ouch

[@monokheros5373]

lets see YOU do a single take 10 minute video

[@KimmyGuardado]

BOOOOOOOOM!!!

[@ElvisSirinBo]

It's fascinating experience working in the development of automatic gearbox control units. The complexity and attention to detail required in ensuring the reliability of these components are indeed immense. Vibration testing, as you mentioned, is just one of many factors that engineers must consider to ensure that each part functions reliably under various conditions. The fact that circuit boards can undergo over a year of vibration testing highlights the rigorous processes involved.

[@Grey-y6u]

This meticulous approach to development is crucial because automatic gearboxes play a vital role in vehicle performance and safety. The work done in this field not only ensures the longevity and reliability of the gearboxes but also impacts the broader automotive industry by contributing to the overall quality and safety of vehicles.

[@Victoria-io7qb]

From an economic perspective, the development and production of high-quality automotive components are significant. The automotive industry is a major economic driver, supporting millions of jobs worldwide. The research and development (R&D) efforts, like those you were involved in, are substantial investments that lead to innovations and improvements in vehicle performance, which in turn can boost a company's competitiveness and market share.

[@ThisIsTheInternet]

This entire comment thread is AI garbage - what is going on?

[@HaggisPower]

@@ThisIsTheInternet Any moment now an AI comment battle is going to break out. Then we can leave them to it and go read a book..

[@pauloakes6952]

These are weird bot comments!

[@nhancao4790]

Last time I was this early 4-cylinder small displacement bikes were still commercially viable.

[@lukasbormann4830]

Kawasaki ZX4RR and Honda 650R are still out there

[@ariesmarsexpress]

@@lukasbormann4830 Also, QJ Motors has the SRV 600 V4. I don't know if it is available in the states though. In some places its call the Flash.

[@monokheros5373]

could have left that at .... Small Displacement bikes were commercially viable

[@thomashowlett8295]

Showing my age, but when I think of small displacement 4-cylinder motorcycles, I think of the '70s Hondas like the CB350F/CB400F, and the CB500/550. I've had examples of all four (no pun intended) of these bikes.

[@spurgear4]

My CB400F approves of this comment.

[@veers0r]

A few years ago a stranger approached me to ask me how I liked the ABS on my bike. An odd thing to ask someone in a hotel parking lot. Turned out it was an engineer working on the cornering ABS on the bike I was riding. Small world. Also goes to show that Bosch has some really passionate and nerdy people working on these boxes. :) I also asked him why the ABS on the typical European Bike is so much less intrusive than even a Japanese Superbike (hello R1). Couldn't quite get a straight answer but it was along the lines of the video, every manufacturer wants different trade offs in their calibration. I still don't know who went, yeah I think drunk nanny is the right level of assistance for the R1 but it's certainly not the only thing they can build.

[@a64738]

The ABS in my 1991 Mercedes 190E was of the type "YOU SHALL NOT STOP.... EVER !!!" It was down right dangerous giving me 2 times the normal breaking distance in summer and 5 times the normal breaking distance in winter on ice or snow. I was super glad every time the ABS malfunctioned and I actually had breaks that worked for a short while... I often tad to use the handbrake to be able to stop without crashing as the ABS had no control over stopping that from working.

[@kain0m]

Great insight into Calibration. I've been doing this kind of stuff for almost 15 years now (driveability and air system on Diesel engines), and it's crazy how much effort can go into a simple control unit. But it's so rewarding when the manufacturer gladly advertises their "new turbocharger with greatly improved throttle response" and all that's changed is the mounting bracket - and your calibration. I agree with you, calibration brings the personality of an engineer into the product - all within the boundaries of what the "brand" will tolerate, of course. Guys like Nader or myself usually remain completely invisible to the customer, even though our impact on the final product is huge.

[@DarkAttack14]

Speaking of calibration, it really opened up the powerband on my passat diesel with a bosch EDC17 ECU! Crazy what a good tuner can do with a few PID loops

[@bartthetreeguy4764]

I don't often laugh when I'm watching a video alone. When he took off running and fell, I lost it. Great video!

[@deanaoxo]

but, you could see it coming, the moment he touched the labeled USB stick, I thought. . .

[@aaronleverton4221]

@@deanaoxo You could see it the first moment they showed it. Anyway, the Gods of motosomethingsomethingsomething decree that he can outrun Russian sidecar combos, but not ABS black magic doohickeys.

[@2006Whippet]

It would have been funnier if he had been wearing an airbag vest that popped.😂

[@deanaoxo]

@@aaronleverton4221 some of my biker friends, don't get why I love F9, they will, cause I'm relentless. . .

[@allanyeates]

@@2006WhippetThat would have been perfect!

[@azharc123]

3000+ variables derived from braking and traction analytics. As a programmer myself, that's mind boggling. Absolute superb work in the making.

[@DansDrives]

This is legitimately the best channel on KZbin, rider or not. Production quality is Hollywood level.

[@clvrswine]

There are way more illegitimately best channels on KZbin. So glad this one is legitimately the best, whatever that means.

[@cooperswan534]

@@clvrswineto clarify for you, since you seem a tiny bit confused, to be legitimately the best means to be the best in a way that can be defended with fair and impartial logic. hope this helped!

[@juha2031]

This is getting worse. The videos are technically as good as ever but they are getting low on ideas. Not so much interestfrom a biker POV

[@craigiedema1707]

The F9 team continues to put amazing content.

[@MrBayoumi]

@7:51 I can see how good Husqvarna did that on a very high level with the traction control on the Norden 901. The offroad mode is so good it knows when I want to do a drift turn and when i just want to turn without loosing the rear too much. its like the Norden can read my mind.

[@shhmule]

Same with the KTM 890, since it's the same bike.

[@laddaevolta]

That commitment to sprint💪

[@Ishimuro]

Ryan in Leather? Now that's something :D

[@3_character_minimum]

You know jts serious when the power ranger gear is on.

[@DericO-rz3be]

Ryanpool vs Wolverine

[@silverXnoise]

200lbs of grade A Canadian beef.

[@kusugara]

Oil up Ryan

[@krishnamahatre8605]

We all have fetishes.

[@Dustin359]

Jeez Ryan... you're Canadian. You should KNOW how to run on a slippery surface!

[@Frostbiker]

Erm... Thank you for making me feel inadequate.

[@Hooner77]

He does live in Vancouver. Not as slippery as say Regina or Winnipeg.

[@1300BlueStar]

@@Hooner77 I seem to recall he lived in Montreal once so no excuse for not knowing how to run on slippery stuff.

[@bubbalandbeau9872]

Possible caption…Why the Canadian track team didn’t make the cut… Ryan’s Non ABS boots in action at the track … After a routine traffic stop Canadian cops turn off ABS in fleeing motorcyclists boots … they’re still laughing…

[@mawwalmazie]

The key for excellent braking is constant deceleration without slipping or locking up, typical abs however intervenes by cutting off brake pressure so the final distance adds up because you have some moments where you're not decelerating to avoid locking. From what I learn here Bosch is keen to fix this by making the brakes constantly modulates pressure instead cutting it off to avoid locking up, simulating a brake-by-wire system while maintaining actual analog hydraulic controls, props to them.

[@troycongdon]

I bought an ABS bike (F650GS) a bit over a decade ago. A few times I went off road and forgot to or didn’t take the time to shut the ABS off on the loose surfaces. It was a pain in the ass and required turning the bike off and restarting it in some sort of safe mode. The result was I’d be riding down a loose surface hill where SOP is lock the rear and steer with the front only the rear wouldn’t lock and the bike would not slow at all. I am glad there are people trying to fix this with computers but I went back to an analog bike and have been happy for it. Me and 44 are gonna ride junk until we die. 44 will get cloned again though…

[@Damiv]

I have an F850GS and I can swap to Enduro mode which disables rear ABS on the fly, just have to roll off the throttle. They have come a long way.

[@DavidFrostbite]

In adaptive systems like this, I wish there was some sort of visual feedback so we could see what "mode" the abs was in. It would make it a lot more usefull to see how the computer was reacting to inputs, as opposed to people getting frustrated and just pulling the abs fuse.

[@Yvolve]

Just pulling the fuse isn't going to cut in the near future, if it isn't impossible on some bikes already. ABS will (or has) become an integral part, not just an ABS pump and a sensor. If the ABS is bypassed, some systems just won't work. It is part of the bikes CANbus system (communication system for sensors) and the ECU needs the inputs. There might be an option to turn it off digitally, but bikes are no longer simple unfortunately. Again, this might not yet be the case but many cars will give you issues if a system fails and bikes have followed cars in terms of technology for a while now. As for the visual aid; it is way too distracting to have that in your vision. The system would also react way too fast for the rider to react to the change in setting. That is why we have ABS: it is faster than a human. High end CANbus runs on 500Hz, so it checks every sensor 500 times per second. Even regular CANbus runs at 250Hz. Human reaction time is at best 0.2 of a second. This system is also designed to not interfere all the time. High end bikes already have an IMU, Inertial Measurement Unit, which detects what the bike is doing in six directions (or on 3 axis). It measures lean angle, acceleration/deceleration and uses the wheel speed, overall speed, throttle position and more determine the level of ABS it will apply. Braking hard while leaning into a fast corner will not give you ABS, to not wipe you out. Braking hard in a straight line will give you full ABS. And everything in between. This system is a variation on that and looks to be much more advanced. I wonder what it is like to ride a bike with this system.

[@WeAreChecking]

@@YvolveI don't imagine he says it needs a whole gauge on the dash to flash at 500hz. But the ability to more easily interface with what's going on (or even just real documentation explaining what the bike will do, and critically, *how* it plans to achieve that) would go a long way. CAN *has* the data, why is it so difficult to just give it to me?

[@K0nst4nt1n96]

Does anyone really pull the fuse on new bikes? All i hear is that most riders are very happy with their abs

[@MrBCRC]

​@@WeAreChecking Not all the data is transmitted on the can bus. Much of it is maintained internal to the ECU. The stuff on the can bus is typically just what the ECU is happy to emit for diagnostics purposes. It's a lot of data. Certainly too much to store for any length of time. 5 hours of riding can easily exceed 250MB of data. Source. I have a woolich logger and I collect CAN data with that on an MT09SP and decode it for my own purposes.

[@Yvolve]

@@WeAreChecking Obviously, but it will all happen so fast, it is over before you can register it. Any real-time info on what the ABS is doing is pointless. The only real info you need is if it's on, and what level of ABS you selected (if the bike has this). There is no documentation, as it is impossible to explain all situations and scenarios. Besides, 90% of riders will not understand this, let alone bother to read it. You're not getting it because it doesn't really matter. Nothing will change by knowing. On top of that, it is info they spent millions developing and are not going to share that with everyone.

[@free2chasehappy]

I work on similar systems on heavy equipment and we have to do so much tuning that controls retains its mechanical feel, while granting a lot more capabilities and functionality from a hydro-electronic system.

[@ianwarren8316]

Best F9 video in a long time! Lots of good info and technical detail mixed in with some lovely comic delivery! Thanks Ryan F9

[@Condor164]

Finally it's back! 10k to 2million subs! Congrats F9!

[@clvrswine]

1.99 is not 2 million.

[@AshleyPomeroy]

@@clvrswine It's 2M now - who would have thought that a video on ABS calibration would tip them over the edge.

[@dinosaursr]

Many years ago I was involved in the design of an aircraft pitch feel unit. That was a real challenge and it involved testing and swapping out leaf springs on a black box that used strain gauges for feedback. Incredibly crude compared to what these guys have done. Impressive.

[@DavidLeeKersey]

That long lingering shot of Ryan there at the end was just perfection.

[@Xshunin]

Really happy to see some Zero on here! :D And really interesting how ABS works. The more you know about the system, the better you can utilize it!

[@MrBuyerman]

I appreciate that Ryan and Bosch know stuff, but all I got here was 'black box save lives but leave playtime alone'...and that's a good thing! Cheers F9!

[@MrOtistetrax]

I don’t have a motorcycle. Never ridden more than a scooter. But I love the production value and presentation qualities of this channel.

[@davemcdaniel4856]

I've got an early generation bosch controller and pump/Brembo master cylinder/Nissin caliper and discs ABS on my 2019 FJR1300. Its, well, ok. It has issues, doesn't Iike rain, doesnt like rear brake only actuation at slow speeds with high lean angles, and has the ABS light come on far too often indicating it can't deal with the inputs. Other than dry, straight line braking its kinda schizophrenic. Pushing it to the limits in snow, wet, or on track with trail braking has shown a ton of issues. To be fair, it's the same system, unchanged since the 2009 models. There have been 2 generations of development in the FJR chassis since then with better suspension, better cooling, more power, and a new transmission, but no braking system changes. It was light years ahead when it came out, and woefully behind now. It has linked braking, but a weird mechanical link with the rear lever actuating 2 pistons(of the front 8) when pressed. The other 6 are from the front lever only. The front does not actuate the rear. I got a 2024 BMW R1250RT and its ABS is beyond fantastic. Bosch controller and pump and brembo calipers, master cylinders, and discs. All weathers, angles, driving styles. I haven't found its limits yet, and they are significantly past the FJRs in my road and track testing using the same tires, pressures, and sizes. The linked braking is handled digitally within the ABS system, and it reads everything to see if it is needed or not. Usually not in my riding style, yet I put a newbie on it and immediately switches to handle their hamfisted on/off style, actuating correctly, instantly. Same track or course and the bmw is shaving 15 to 20 seconds off because better braking, The FJR has a significantoy higher top end, but it doesnt matter if you can't ever get to it because of the braking. Long, high speed courses, the FJRs top end makes a difference, but anything tight and technical, not getting over 100 except on a couple of straights, and the BMWs better brakes make a huge difference. Back to back measured is almost 30 ft shorter distance and 0.5 to 0.75 seconds faster to drop the same amount of speed, meaning it doesnt just brake in a shorter distance, but also significantly faster intime at a higher deceleration rate. So thanks Nader and Crew!

[@user-co6ww2cm9k]

What a great follow-up to the last ABS video! Bravo!

[@ActualPrey]

You should have been wearing your helmet there at the end Ryan - ATGATT...... 🤣

[@jasoncollier4961]

I am doing my first track day for this very reason! To explore the 'electronics' of my new bike! Nice job F9

[@trytymister]

Hit it out of the park again! Gold outro. Great job to the team behind it all.

[@HugEBear42]

a great video about the ABS, but now I want one about that bike

[@SpottedCreeper]

The Zero SRF? There a quite a few vids of it doing the rounds on KZbin.

[@tl2913]

Great video on the technology and the electric Zero SR/F is super cool!

[@JohnStruemph]

There is also the JIT manufacturing aspect. If there is too many bikes on showrooms the research gets filing cabinetted. Great vid as always, informative and entertaining!

[@GC-xy2ec]

That's why I looove ❤❤❤ Yamaha's crossplane (big bang) motor so much. The engineers have done a superb job calibrating the electronics around that motor. Never intrusive but always there. Well done Yamaha!

[@damnperrys1]

Masterfully, beautifully, brilliant! Thank you so much for sharing!

[@Juror63]

Eye opening! I never realized the efforts the manufacturers went to. I always assumed the system was more machine learning than finesse.

[@metalsadman]

people whine when a component costs a lot but are produced cheap yet they don't account for how much r&d it cost.

[@Bobb1to]

This literally is the BEST motorbike channel on KZbin!!

[@NickElliottuk]

You're not Top Gear - you're better. More focused, more detail, more in-depth. It's the beauty of KZbin - you can be as niche as you like, and there is something for all tastes.

[@motoryzen]

That ending was hilarious. Ryan you're awesome

[@RezaQin]

Glad I found this channel. Can't wait to get my own bike next year!

[@bunberrier]

Awesome! I had no idea. I have the SRS version of that bike and have no complaints about its traction control. Just works. The only time I notice is when I'm riding on a wet surface. It feels like I'm braking normally, but even for what feels like gentle stops, the system is buzzing its little solenoids the whole time.

[@namesundar]

RIP Ryan, you will be deeply missed until next video. Jokes aside phenomenal job on demonstrating what it takes to make and tune the system that most usually take it for granted

[@MCsupernova22]

Just so you know, you are the top gear of bikes

[@brianglendenning1632]

The science nerd in me loved this. Some clever people indeed.

[@besteraj]

Another masterpiece Ryan. Well done, mate. Very well done.

[@estajosue]

You have the only ads/sponsorships that I don’t skip.

[@terrymcgynnis]

On every Fortnine videos I like first and then start watching it!

[@beefriprock8112]

The 3-axis Bosch system on my Indian is superb, way less intrusive than any nanny system on any other bike I’ve owned.

[@mehmetgurdal]

How much did it cost?

[@beefriprock8112]

@@mehmetgurdal Standard equipment on my Challenger Dark Horse.

[@F1likos]

Ryan, as an aspiring new rider, I want to thank you for all the work you put in your videos, I really love this type of content that delves deeper into the science of motorcycling. It would be really nice if you had a discord server to connect with the community. Keep up the good work, love from Greece

[@suryaraghavendran3627]

Thank you so much for the shoutout to controls and calibration engineers at the end. We really are enthusiasts at heart and while we all love our ESC off tom-foolery, a lot of love and science goes into max performance without a code brown :)

[@silverXnoise]

“We have to stop this dude,” or “We have to stop this, dude,”?

[@SirTyron]

sharp

[@dcxplant]

did i see armor? tsk tsk tsk... 😂 Really cool info in this, thank you!

[@soucces2965]

YESSS id love to see some more vids about the manufacturing side of motorcycles!

[@Tubesmaney]

Thanks for another great video! On my last bike which had ABS I used to go out to an empty parking lot and practice crash-stops and see how hard I could bring it to a full stop. Sometimes I would do it in sandy gravel to see how well it would stop and to sort of get used to it in the event that I had to do it for real. The ABS was amazing and would keep me out of trouble. It’s interesting to know how it works (to some degree) and see the development!

[@mrwjs]

'Punching through children' - brand-new sentence!

[@kusugara]

Two*

[@horeica]

i heard pounching two children 😂

[@mrwjs]

@@horeica It was two children.. ha! 'Through' is funnier, though.

[@MickH60]

Traditional church activity....!!

[@jake9705]

1:59 -- "Outperformed by 200 pounds of Canadian beef" Now you've got my attention 🥵

[@manbunmyname5866]

4:55 "Punching thru children..."🤣

[@boaragile82]

Great stuff, good to see Ryan again. I knew he was up to something unusual the moment he showed up in racing 1-piece :)

[@brianhood8768]

Man, what a great video. I never turn off the ABS on my Husqy, and have experienced both extremes you describe - ABS on a sudden mu change with very light brake pressure, and a full-on stopie on track. I have a new appreciation for the stopie, like a Bosch engineer giving me a high-five.

[@peterklausner9727]

Run Ryan Run!! Lol 😂😅

[@tomreece1058]

A skilled and experienced rider "out-breaking" ABS under controlled and completely expected circumstances is one thing. For an average Joe during unexpected, non-controlled circumstances, it is quite another.

[@deagle50ae]

Why are your videos always so damn entertaining? I don't even ride but I've seen every single episode.

[@loosemeatsamich3689]

I could have easily watched an hour of this, much like all your videos.

[@jlkraus2]

I have a 2023 gsxs 1000 and the number of times that the abs has decided that my normal stop sign behavior was me about to crash and turned my rear brake off just long enough to kick me in the leg with the left footpeg is appalling. They ran a bosch system in 2016 and never again says google.

[@Dave-sw2dm]

Dream job.. As I age I am looking more at simple bikes instead of complex bikes because of lack of trust with motorcycle technicians to diagnose and correct issues in a timely manner.

[@stevensapyak7971]

7.17.24. Same here with me! Especially with automobiles, my oldest vehicle is a 2005 and I don’t care to have anything newer⚠️ I found out when I was working, with much younger people an their newer trucks with all the troubles they were encountering😱

[@Danger_mouse]

As a motor mechanic and ex-rally driver, you can tell especially in cars, which companies put in time and effort tuning their systems to make driving enjoyable and which ones just fit the 'Tick the box' systems and walk away. I imagine as you say, it's the same for bikes. I do ride bikes too, but only Enduro stuff off road where you 100% need full control.

[@volvogt21]

Almost 2 million subs. Congrats Ryan

[@FlyingAxel1010]

Hello FortNine, I absolutely love all your videos, but maybe the pace was a tiny little bit too fast on this one ? Can we define slip ratio ? Can we explain what the bike pitch angle has to do with braking force and stopping distance ? Can we show the graphs a little longer ? I could barely make out what the curves represented before they are wooshed away. Have to watch multiple times. I'm not sure the ten minutes format was the best choice here.

[@longjonwhite]

@flyingaxel. TLDR…

[@MikkelL03]

Fortnine never fails to make a cinematic video.

[@leviminton3320]

Glad to see Ryan again. I miss watching him every Saturday when I ate lunch😂

[@BirkJunghanns]

best one yet. thanks for shedding a light to the work behind and the engieering effort to even "simple" things!

[@quintessenceSL]

Seems the ideal is moving towards user defined parameters or at least multiple maps for conditions/user preference (I mean we have this for acceleration). Porsche had crude multiple braking maps at least as far back as the late 1980s. Kinda appalled motorcycles don't have equivalents some 40 years later.

[@captslaq]

I suspect that's where ride modes come into play, though the specifics are buried under a host of other changes on very advanced bikes.

[@siraff4461]

When you look at what these systems actually do they really aren't all that far removed form the early systems. The can process faster, can add pressure in this case and a few other improvements but the basics are still very similar. Funny thing is they bang on about calibration and that is very important. However that calibration goes out the window when you put a pillion o the back, swap the rubber, change rider weights/suspension settings and all the rest. Truth be told this will be brilliant in one specific situation and a little better than the cheapo junk systems everywhere else. In the vast majority of cases a decent rider will be able to stop faster and in more control. Obviously if the rider is a complete ham fisted idiot they will be better off with any electronics but then they would also be better off on the bus.

[@Daschickenify]

Totally agree, there should be multiple ABS modes for riders of different skill levels, looking at you Japanese manufacturers..

[@user-sw1lo9id7f]

fort 9 = top gear

[@richardcastelo9587]

Fortnine > Top Gear There, I fixed your math 😉😁

[@richardsjonk]

​@@richardcastelo9587was going to correct the same mistake...

[@ForestCounter]

😂 😙👌

[@exhausted-tears]

बहुत बढ़िया वीडियो बनाता है Ryan , तकनीकी बातें ऐसी Cinematic तरीके से बताता है, मंद बुद्धि की भी खोपड़ी में घुस जाए। more power to you! 👍

[@thegaragemonkey5716]

Don't ever stop your videos are too good.

[@ujjwalkala1705]

Yes

[@cWtxzzz]

i bet big ABS was pointing a gun at him to make this vid because of the last video about out braking ABS lmao

[@jaymehta27]

Bro is in a league of his own ❤

[@bigjj974]

WOW great commercial/review. Just don't know how we got along without it for so long?? Well OK maybe Canada with a lot of snow/ice and rain. As usual LMAO.

[@steventan6873]

Great video, great fall😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@adriandaw3451]

My first bike with ABS was an R1150GS in 2001. I only activated the ABS a couple of times, and it seemed to have a 0.5 second cycle. Wheras a car at the same time was like a machine gun. I presumed, but don't know, that this was to keep gyroscopic progression to enable steering and just staying upright. My present KTM790 Adventure has only operated its ABS whilst I was doing refresher training. It was a far smoother experience.

[@poisonzombii]

The end of this video, absolute gold!

[@Jason-co9ep]

Cool that it's available. Don't make it required.

[@ElDuderino999]

„He‘s dead, Jim…“

[@mrviphd7307]

An ABS unit that is specifically tuned for your own style of riding sounds really cool

[@robp5656]

Excellent! Very, very well done. Pulling the cover off of stability control and diving deep into the nuts and bolts - Ryan F9 and EE Jason are The Guys for in depth 'splenations of how all this tech stuff works with a dollop of physics for those who tend towards a pocket protector.

[@tedtheturbot]

@2:12 [meet the Bosch calibrator] guess he's getting paid by the hour to develop the thing over the past 2 years, hence the broad smile..

[@MikkelL03]

He could also just be someone who enjoys his job, the work site, his coworkers and he could be very proud about what he has been part of making

[@feedbackzaloop]

@@MikkelL03 or both. Engineering for a corporation is both.

[@tevjestrand1176]

Long time no see

[@tevjestrand1176]

Not that long you just make good vids

[@kco1270]

real info, beautiful framing, perfect gag, and so much better than top gear ever was

[@chriswillms2669]

You guys are still killing it. this is must see KZbin.

[@priyadarshivyas2233]

I was just thinking that Bosch has probably saved more lives than other auto companies by using this amazing ABS systems

[@siraff4461]

I think seatblets and airbags would have something to say about that. Also this isn't some magic that helps you stop - this is only there to help you not lock the wheel when you're too ham fisted to do it yourself. It also increases stopping distance significantly and reduces rider options significantly. It will have saved some lives but it will also have contributed to others demise so how effective it is overall is very questionable.

[@aao331]

@@siraff4461 During my life, ABS popped up about 5 or 6 times when I panicked and grabbed too much brake. Thats 5 or 6 times it saved a crash. Saved my life? I dont think so, but it saved 5 or 6 new bikes.

[@QuarkLab]

@@siraff4461 ABS - Increases braking distance during panic braking, but maintains vehicle controllability. Without ABS - locked wheels are uncontrollable and you are rushing into the unknown. As a result, learn to break on a vehicle with ABS, so that even during emergency braking, the ABS does not work and the braking efficiency will be the same as without ABS, only if you hit the brakes, you will have a chance with ABS, but not without it.

[@siraff4461]

@@aao331 I'm on just under three million miles over my few decades riding and I'm yet to require abs. Maybe its more to do with the rider and your observations? If you would have crashed five or six times for no other reason than you can't modulate the brakes properly then you were going way faster than your skill set allows for the conditions in the first place. If you are putting yourself in those situations sooner or later abs won't make the difference. I would suggest a bit of training mostly based around your forward observations because then you won't be in those situations in the first place.

[@vipe650r]

I'm going to ask the dumb question, but is this something to add aftermarket, or are there bikes out there coming with one of these installed?

[@kea_hd]

Ryan! Ryan!! Ryan!!!

[@Oblivion4700]

God you guys are making the best videos on this entire platform along with MKBHD. Truly a marvel. And that ending, lmao..

[@tobyhague5974]

Did I just watch a report on braking or an AD for insta 360. Love how they have changed their messaging style to friendly slipping in a tech tip rather than screaming ‘buy our camera’

[@ringsystemmusic]

We retriangulating our hydroscopic marzelvanes with this one boys

[@gangstreG123]

The engineers' biggest hurdle was preventing the lunar wane shaft from side fumbling I heard

[@1loser803]

it doesn't matter how many times I watch your videos, I will always read fortnite

[@AarPlays]

He was fighting his intrusive thoughts the entire video until the very end. RIP ryan you will be missed

[@a64738]

The ABS in my 1991 Mercedes 190E was of the type "YOU SHALL NOT STOP.... EVER !!!" It was down right dangerous giving me 2 times the normal breaking distance in summer and 5 times the normal breaking distance in winter on ice or snow. I was super glad every time the ABS malfunctioned and I actually had breaks that worked for a short while... I often tad to use the handbrake to be able to stop without crashing as the ABS had no control over stopping that from working. +

[@garymaclean6903]

Yah, with considerable practice, a '200-lb sample of Canadian beef' could potentially out-brake the latest and best ABS System on pavement, where these systems are designed to work best. Think that's you? Then go ahead and modulate your brake's pressure with your best effort. There is no ABS Brake system that will 'take over' your braking until you screw up and over-brake causing wheel slipping. So theoretically you could out-brake your ABS every time. But that's not a realistic expectation. Riders aren't always sufficiently prepared, nor are road conditions consistently slippery enough, for the typical rider to consistently have such capability - every time - in a panic-braking situation... So ABS is your best friend you hope you'll never need to rely on. Just be aware it'll take over in a panic stop when you're caught off-guard, and can't modulate your brakes to achieve your best stopping distance, and provide you with one that's quite good, and doesn't land you on your ass because you over-braked... The worst thing you can do to ABS is not apply enough braking pressure, because you're afraid you'll activate it....