the mountain goats - no children

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[@fionahoang9628]

your friend: my relationship isn't toxic the relationship:

[@rachel7815]

ADSSHJAASEGHASGH TRUTH

[@slushy711]

facts

[@athroneoflies8785]

My friend: so he cheated on me, but I don’t know if I’m breaking up with him yet Me: quietly sending this song to her

[@InsaneGold]

FELT THIS LOL

[@baggachaos3406]

Bruh dats fuqin true,,,

[@theweightofdarkness]

I'm very glad that they have no children

[@deadseid]

that's just it, its the one good thing about their relationship. that at least no children have to suffer through the two of them.

[@wylliam488]

Doesn't he have children? I've met him in person and he has a son that goes to a small school in NC.

[@gabrielashe-jones5865]

Wylliam this song isn’t actually about john darnielle’s life, it’s about the fictionalized Alpha couple. all of the albums up to and including tallahassee are fictional. john is still married and they have two kids.

[@wylliam488]

@@gabrielashe-jones5865 oh, alright, thanks for clearing that up!

[@witcheshazel]

@@wylliam488I read prison instead of person and I dead(ಠ_ಠ) stared at the screen for like three minutes trying to figure a *few* things out

[@JoeyTDoesThings]

"Why did _you_ marry dad?" "Oh, well... why not?" "Well... it's just that... when he drinks... he _changes._ " _"Oh, he doesn't change, Orel. That's just his true nature coming out."_

[@lifecide]

My mom says the same about me.

[@kokichiouma2]

My dad literally acts like Clay (other then being “secretly” gay)

[@pastelguts6182]

I just started watching this show like yesterday, what a coincidence i see this comment lmao

[@kokichiouma2]

@@pastelguts6182 do you like it so far

[@andersbell2046]

That show is a fucking banger, so this comment really caught my eye.

[@olliewalker2]

"When he drinks he changes" "He dosent change, that's his true nature coming out"

[@definitelynotsiri4058]

_Cue door slam and low quality sobbing_

[@johnmckinney5931]

That hit hard

[@kokichiouma2]

I think of this song and Clay when my dad drinks hes pretty much Clay

[@cricketen]

moral orel heart emoji

[@Gmsreal]

moral orel hits different

[@ghostpepperwine]

This reads like an angry, spiteful suicide note.

[@ottogreen2749]

I think it is.

[@MLG_Kitten]

If you look back on your favorite lyrics, you can actually read them as notes instead of verses. It's pretty crazy

[@lkblondie8061]

this was honestly what my suicide note would have been like if I wasnt too nice for my own good lmao

[@prageruwu69]

i'm gonna write a spiteful suicide note when i'm not a coward anymore

[@riitaako]

@@prageruwu69 Hey man, just wanted to say that you're not a coward for staying alive. You're really strong and I hope you keep going. ♡ To you and everyone here.

[@AQFearfullMage]

the mountain children - no goats

[@KenMabie]

AQFearfullMage The goat children - no mountains

[@grahamlopez6202]

The Children- no goats mountain

[@KenMabie]

@@grahamlopez6202 The Nos - Goat Mountain Children

[@grahamlopez6202]

No mountain- the goat children

[@grahamlopez6202]

Wait shit. Ah you win

[@bonktheamanda]

There’s something about the pause between “and I hope you die” “I hope we both die.” It feels like the person realizes that the death of the one they’re singing about won’t be enough to erase whatever happened, and that they themself would also have to die to move past it. I don’t think I’ll ever stop loving those lines.

[@trollanlord85]

I always interpreted it as one of the partners yelling "I hope you die" and the other partner responds with "I hope we both die" to tie in with the "you are coming down with me", but this is such a more emotional interpretation

[@pixelated6451]

11 Year old me when I go on a camping trip with my father, only for him to go on a drunken outrage and shoot me in the leg, and question why I even know this man to begin with:

[@Rocca000]

That’s just his true nature coming out

[@spongewaffle]

Relatable

[@augustwest4068]

Typical Missouri Moment

[@lydiajulianprower8356]

Orel was 12 at the time.

[@raspberrycrowns9494]

​@@augustwest4068*Typical Statesota moment

[@juno3380]

i feel like this is a response to someone telling him to have some "hope" so he sarcastically "hopes" for things

[@magicalmarshmallow6133]

I like this one

[@deez2569]

HOPE is so gawd damn faulty...so pathetic.

[@dominiquecaldwell3093]

I can see this happening

[@Lunaliladee]

That literally describes me

[@itsyaboinadia]

or maybe its like "knock on wood" and hes trying to jinx it so the opposite happens

[@vodkasvoice]

When you hate someone else almost as much as you hate yourself.

[@derangedyarn6544]

Me @ everyone in my school

[@BaggerNifty]

You good bro?

[@CazabichosManny]

feeling it right now

[@GobanShodan]

Not possible

[@misteryA555]

This is the one comment on this video. None of the others get it as right

[@ryanp9458]

This isn’t a song about hate, it’s a song about fear. It’s about fearing what is already written on the walls, and trying to take control in a desperate attempt to convince yourself that you’re broken enough to sadistically crave and embrace the co-self-destruction.

[@donovanulrich348]

Its about self hate, and accepting what is. To hopefully move on He dosent hate her for what she did, he hates himself for loving her. And just wishes the past could be erased, cuz he still loves her. But its a fact now, so i hope we both die 😂🤷‍♂️

[@MilloSpiegel]

It is also the fear of change. The fear that after the change you realize it was your fault. That you were wrong

[@TheCowpoke406]

​@@MilloSpiegel exactly. I played this song nonstop when I was going through the motions after losing my ex fiance due to my own actions.

[@jaxmorningstar6703]

Feels like having to leave an abusive parent you still love but just can't keep up the charade

[@herec0mestheCh33f]

That, or spite

[@irenem.db.m3876]

This gives me "song that plays in the final credits of a really good movie that at the beginning was comedy but at the end is really deep and with a very sad ending that makes you feel like your soul don't exist anymore and you are still processing the ending and the whole meaning of life" vibes

[@Sylvadox]

moral orel, its an old stop motion adult swim show and its so good. it just gets darker and more serious as time goes on (they had to cancel it because one of the episodes got TOO serious and dark) but yeah they actually use this song in the ending credits for one of the last episodes and its so perfect in context and heartbreaking. The whole show personally gave me the exact feeling you described

[@irenem.db.m3876]

@@Sylvadox wow, thank you, I didn't know that my comment was actually a real thing, I'm gonna check that out, thanks

[@hannieblackthorn5218]

i love this

[@toongamer2810]

Hey Moral Orel

[@swizzycake]

you just explained moral orel perfectly and i love you for that

[@QtheWhatever]

This song makes me want to throw a piano down some stairs.

[@Alovera_bagel]

Alex Summers oh my god this is the best comment-

[@humanbean4037]

Then let’s drag all the pieces out and burn them at 3 in the morning

[@Mothblossom]

I’m up for that

[@xXdigleDJ62Xx]

2 questions: why does this comment exist? And why do I agree with it so much?

[@NicoleElliot]

I am really laughing, that was great

[@snowpizza7673]

Idk what but the line “hand in unloveable hand” just hits different for me

[@ahumblewaffle]

it makes me go ape shit feral and i love it

[@trishell.longlastname]

me too bro

[@glassesguy4086]

mood

[@crowsoto9612]

it's such a fucking good line I love it

[@katemorgan4690]

@@ahumblewaffle Can you eat beans yet?

[@jae.lorin.]

"you are coming down with me" i love how that lyric can be seen in two different ways. 'you are coming down with me' implying that she is drowning in her own self hatred WITH him and 'you ARE coming down with me' implying that he WILL make her drown with him. amazing song

[@pastelguts6182]

I think one of my favorite parts of this song is that aside from the "and tell everyone you were a good wife" line, it can be for any type of toxic relationship, whether romantic, platonic, or familial.

[@xoxoluvu2]

yeah :(

[@yeethittter1285]

Tbf before that he does say "I hope I lie" so he could totally be /j about the wife thing

[@mistycomet9760]

could be from a child to a mother with that line, especially if parents fought

[@Gmanawesomeness]

@@yeethittter1285what

[@EssenceofEscence]

Yeah this actually happens to be my song to my mom-

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

For a song where almost every line contains the word "hope," there's a LOT of pure, unadulterated despair here...

[@voiceofafreeamerica9854]

Want to know why? It's because the depressed, like the husband being portrayed in the song, scramble for hope even when they are putting the gun to the temple.

[@bigbeefscorcho]

I’ve never picked up on that, brilliant observation

[@ejm1225]

Hmm, Danganronpa?

[@MaceMeetFace]

Puhuhu Puhuhuhuh...

[@christophercastillo3975]

V. Ghf

[@TheBigFrasier]

This is probably the angriest song I've ever heard.

[@sadieadler5139]

Listen to the song I pray for you

[@nicola7021]

Princess Caty good song, that :))

[@Gaylord300]

I've been so mad lately by Butt Trumpets. A pretty angry song, to me, at least.

[@callingthevoid]

@@brain0068 lmao i just came here from that song!

[@coyotelightning6881]

But it's so damn funny cause it sounds upbeat

[@CharlieTheTexan]

_"Your mother and I have decided to stay together, if only for appearances. The last thing we want people to think is that we don't care about our own kids. That's one fact that's none of their business."_ Moral Orel is a hilarious show. Meromorphic has a great video about the whole thing, front to back. I recommend everyone watch the show, then watch his video on it. But hilarity aside... being abused as a kid by heavily religious parents (and now being a father myself), Moral Orel showed me how to put a lot of things that happened in my own childhood into some perspective. And I'm more reassured that I'm doing much better nowadays, both with myself and with my own children. In all honesty, I was so glad when they let us know Orel was finally happy, in the end. Stupid show to get all emotional about, fake characters and all, but idk... it got to me sometimes.

[@crack4184]

Well, fiction does tell a story. A story, to be engaging, has to be about realistic struggles and Moral Orel hit way too close at home and the fantastic character writing make it the icing on the cake

[@k.a.89]

Man, Moral Orel was silly and crude, yeah, but that show got deep. No shame in feeling feelings over a show of that caliber.

[@NoName-rk3ii]

“Love is a very beautiful and very intense feeling for a short period of time. Before long you realize it gets in the way of the really important things in life. That’s when love starts fading, and lies kick in.” “But how long does it take love to fade?” “Oh, quicker than you think kid. Quicker than you think.” -Moral Orel

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

And then Orel proceeds to have a happy marriage

[@HwoarangtheBoomerang]

😢

[@thephantomoftheparadise5666]

@@alchemistofsteel8099 Orel living happily is the ultimate fuck you to Clay.

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

@@thephantomoftheparadise5666 What I find amusing about it is that Clay never loved Bloberta but his Love for Stopframe never died

[@donovanulrich348]

Clay felt obligated to marry Blowberta It wasent a act of love that brought them together. . .

[@4rtie]

"Mom, why did you marry dad?" "Well...why not?"

[@Damian-xg8dw]

Moral Orel. Best fooking show ever

[@nyanmaster99]

YESSSSS 😭😭

[@CasseroleBlast]

Bruh you can’t do that to me 😢

[@notyourdaughter666]

DarVin_edrQ what show?

[@nyanmaster99]

@@notyourdaughter666 morel orel! It's an adult swim claymation show by the creators of robot chicken. It starts off as funny and making fun of the perfect Catholic/Christian family but then it takes a while 180° and is actually about things like drug abuse, child abuse/neglect, alcoholism, cycle of abuse, dysfunctional marriage, affairs, r*pe victims, the innocence of a child, corruption of a child through abuse- just SO much. It's absolutely adult swims most powerful show yet it barely gets any attention, I 1000000% recommend it.

[@MrRee-jo2or]

I'd *love* to hear a song from the other partner's perspective.

[@sara_daria2]

I think this feeling is mutual

[@cadencurtis6784]

Fuck you by Lilly alen?

[@internetuser528]

thats just Evelyn Evelyn

[@Bonovasitch]

It's probably this exact same song lmao

[@donuko]

Missing In Nevada It would be more similar to Evelyn, Evelyn if the wife wanted to stay and is just upset about how they can’t get along but it seems like she hates him too.

[@rulerzreachf4nnnn]

“Why did you marry dad?” “Why? Well, men have to marry women.” “But why did YOU marry DAD?” “Well.. why not?” “It’s just that.. when he drinks, he.. changes. “He doesn’t change, Orel. That’s just his true nature coming out.”

[@kingkirby1395]

She forced him to marry. He didnt drink because of his father. And then she got him into drinking just to trick him into marrying her

[@Earwig353]

@@kingkirby1395 we know

[@pgakt]

@@kingkirby1395 Clay was broken before he met Bloberta, she just ended up pushing things on a little quicker and he did the same for her

[@dyysmal7670]

“And I’d hope that if I find the strength to walk out you’d stay the hell out of my way” That hits different.

[@edgaradams4624]

This is the best song ever about hopelessness. It is total commitment to losing.

[@slurwangatang1905]

Very nicely put!

[@howtomeetwomen-]

gonna quote you later.

[@howtomeetwomen-]

@@kanyewest8283 And totally resigning yourself to that failure. It's beautiful and ugly.

[@LKRaider]

Pretty Bad At Everything : there's beauty in the breakdown.

[@heidigrilsissybunny]

Beautifully said

[@sasswongames7216]

"I am drowning. There is no sign of land. You are coming down with me. Hand in unlovable hand" That. That right there? Favorite part music wise and lyrically

[@kingbronksman7377]

SassWonGames lmao how tf is that at all musical haha

[@toonbutch]

@@kingbronksman7377 probably because its a song buddy. those tend to involve music

[@maayandahan2105]

@@kingbronksman7377 Harmonies... it's not that hard dude and you don't have to be an ass

[@kyleea.p2236]

@@kingbronksman7377 did you just ask how music is musical

[@fressejetzt840]

This is no music and has 0 real meaning

[@timapple1413]

Oh Orel. Make me proud. Make me the happiest father in the world, and tell me YOU shot that bear! "No dad. You did."

[@blakewilson8654]

"I did?"

[@nessmarsh]

this song feels like stewing in your own bitterness and misery and realizing its easier to give up then try and be better

[@rocher4767]

This isn't an original thought you had

[@blackprimrose7541]

And then you reach a point of being in such a bad state that you want to get out, but it's already too late, because the hole you dug for yourself is too deep to climb out of...

[@nessmarsh]

@@rocher4767 what do you mean?

[@HwoarangtheBoomerang]

Welcome to my life. I've never had a good relationship.

[@nessmarsh]

@@rocher4767 youve never had an origninal though you fucking subhuman sack of shit

[@milesbrinkley7141]

This song has no damn business being this damn catchy.

[@trishell.longlastname]

lol ikr

[@stayhydratedkingsqueens]

Fax

[@zygsevalatpw]

Yep

[@snugglypichu6881]

I hate that I love this song so much. It's so toxic but so enjoyable

[@mimim108]

i don't know why but the "hand in unlovable hand" always hits me so hard

[@call_me_blue]

It really does

[@winilula]

It makes me cry

[@Chloe-vb8rm]

Same

[@santinomerlino6365]

yes it does 💔

[@keithfranzen3354]

Because at one time you thought it wa s the most safe, understanding, and lovable.....maybe...and because of this ( what time has unveiled or forced to the surface) that line is spoken or thought with such disbelief, heart ache , and bitterness it cant help but draw out tears.....or screams....or a complete emotional breakdown.. ...blah...... or as my spell check likes to say .... blag.

[@pocket-stars]

i love how the rhythm gets just so slightly faster as the song progresses, seemingly unintentionally, as a reaction to emotion

[@Sarah-ob9ud]

One day you are young and carefree and then all of a sudden this song resonates with you

[@andynonymous6769]

Yeah.

[@artvulture456]

Not me

[@Strawberryglazzes]

Yeah

[@angelicgirl888]

10 year old me would spit in my face. I'm turning 16 tomorrow as I'm writing this

[@TheResidence.mp4]

Yeah.

[@alymatronicdoesrandomness505]

This has the energy of chugging a bottle of a soda at three am outside of Wal-Mart

[@noyamanu1242]

Wh-what??

[@saffronsketchesx2959]

and then immediately breaking down into a sobbing fit in your 2009 toyota corolla

[@tiredly6753]

saffronsketches x this is kinda specific u good????

[@saffronsketchesx2959]

@@tiredly6753 is anyone?

[@timidmousy9845]

As someone who had worked overnights at walmart, yes.

[@floral2743]

my mother in Portugal: chilling with my 4 year old sister. me in the kiddie pool while 2: 1:51

[@tanishaarora3976]

Zfucgciyciy

[@anicestranger6492]

Holy shit i was crying and reading sad comments and then i stumble apon this beauty. Laughed so hard and i feel better now

[@wiman3332]

you, you ma’am are wonderful

[@rose-hk7ze]

OML

[@johnstephens1]

this is art

[@alwest4472]

People talk about moral Orel, for obvious reasons, but I think this song also fits bojack horseman’s parents well

[@jowbokitten2317]

Hell yeah! Especially the "I am drowning" part

[@rulerzreachf4nnnn]

I like to think it fits diane and mr peanutbutter as well

[@Wirzxcve]

It fit them more than Puppington. Atleast Orels parents stayed together after all the madness. Bojacks parents practically died hating each other to death.

[@leosweed5317]

yes omg yes?? it fits it so well

[@melancoholic]

yup

[@incomprehensiblevoid]

This song reminds me of that longing for things to end horribly and bitterly because that’s what you’re used to. The only security you have in your relationships is knowing they will fail, and when it does, you can say “I knew it. I knew they wouldn’t stay”. This song is that feeling. That feeling of knowing you ruin things because that’s all you know to do. You ruin your connections because you can’t keep them healthy because you’re scared they’ll actually WORK. You feel unloveable, so you make sure everyone knows you are, and if they disagree, they won’t for long.

[@hommegirl]

You wrote this a while ago, but I wanted to comment that you’re so right. Being abandoned scarring you to the point of you fucking things up by yourself because you don’t want to be the one being left alone. You want to be the one who’s leaving first. And even when everything’s alright, you keep thinking it’s all going to end because they will get sick of you

[@TheStnrbtch]

♡

[@TheStnrbtch]

Sabotaging all the beautiful things you deserve bc u will control the hurt this time.

[@justcallmeeastia7947]

Hahahaha i hate how truthful this ahshhs

[@incomprehensiblevoid]

@@lilsis2589 I’m not an army anymore. Just too lazy to change the pfp.

[@revokedlight6843]

this is a profoundly deep song and i love to appreciate it but i also love how everyone in the comments sounds like english teachers explaining it lmao

[@Mel-lk6cy]

Its what John would want.

[@voen]

Well, we're all so educated.

[@mori8706]

Not really most of it are jokes

[@mandomero5484]

What’s so deep about this song? Emotional technically doesn’t = deep

[@pinkoctopus801]

Because I feel like it can carry such meaning to each person it's handed to

[@calhoun81670]

I wanted this to be our wedding song. My wife said No. Update: we where married almost 10 years before cancer took her. She hated this song and the cartoon but appreciated my humor.

[@micahfisher6125]

...children

[@stjeernee]

F

[@clovers4zane]

Oh my

[@Derek22464]

Best comment EVER!!

[@justindixon1586]

Agreed

[@nihilistchannel4598]

The mountain goats is like Emo music for people in their thirties

[@towerology6137]

true lol

[@firstnamelastname904]

But.... Emo music is already for people in their 30's

[@silliestbilliestbilly29282]

“He doesn’t change, that’s just his true nature coming out”

[@spork1074]

Me a 16 year old who has never been in a relationship laying alone listening to this: haha yeah

[@mystycat2832]

Literally same 🧍‍♀️

[@itssheep685]

like I wish I could relate but I have too much a superiority complex to even have a relationship

[@crowsoto9612]

the only time I've ever dated was in kindergarten uh-- um, yeah that-- that song's uh,, relatable?? /s

[@adaoarfishes9405]

Like ik what the song is about but I kind of imagine it as talking to myself

[@crowsoto9612]

@@Lalaz or maybe it's because they're not interested in dating anyone

[@ange4154]

This reads like if gen Z had the same hate for their spouses as boomers do

[@kiryuwu3884]

True, true.

[@lj-wp3sf]

john darnielle is not even close to gen z tho

[@garfielffan6954]

lj I’m pretty sure they’re saying gen z because we’re a bit more spicy with our word choices than them

[@brownsugardown5462]

Gen b

[@ange4154]

@@lj-wp3sf I know that, but what I meant was the lyrics have the chaotic energy of gen z yet also have the stereotypical bitter baby boomer attitude

[@ShadowQuilava777]

Watching the entirety of Morel Orel while in an ongoing and bitter divorce, then listening to this song brings out an emptiness that I can't even fathom.

[@hipsterelephant2660]

I can sort of confirm. I saw Season 3 when it was first airing, when a few months prior my parents got divorced.

[@pgakt]

I hope you are doing okay now

[@Thobeian]

Maybe not the best choice for binges, gonna be honest. Hope your divorce went well. And I feel bad for you if it's still ongoing.

[@SleepTalkMetropolis]

I know some people are going to complain that this song is trending on TikTok, but it's pretty cool seeing The Mountain Goats get some recognition

[@minoena]

i’m so happy it’s trending idk why people complain it’s a great song from a great band!!

[@McPiledriver]

most def. if tiktok its the vehicle that will bring Mountain Goats to the grand generality of people, so be it. They deserved and people, aswell, deserve to know more about the music made by the goats

[@konankreul]

i didn't find this song from tiktok but an animatic, but i love that it is on tiktok. people deserve to know this song

[@jdepaul87]

I found this song listening to the radio...and I think its fare to say that most people making crap on tik tok are most likely disingenuous about using the song and simply want clout and clicks but hey...

[@theslavemotivator3571]

I come from Morel Orel

[@moonbeam714]

this song feels like the deep compulsion to stay in a dark place because it's all you've ever known and you're scared of change. even if you're actively trying to get better, there's a part of you that doesn't want to.

[@SmokySweater]

WELL DAMN. DIDN'T HAVE TO CALL ME OUT LIKE THAT! /nm

[@ariellestorm2991]

Yeah I’m just bumping this to ease my rage at my father. I don’t know how to let go of the anger just yet so I’m gonna scream this a few times.

[@grilledcheese2084]

You just put into words what so many people cant. Hope they see your comment and it can help them.

[@elizabethlee2136]

This

[@eqwertman2556]

thats pretty much what the song is about, theyre too scared to leave the relationship cause theyre the only person they have, these 2 people in the song are perfect for destroying each other, but they have so much in common and so little aswell. Described in the verse "I am drowning, there is no sign of land, you are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand."

[@dirtburger2773]

this song is pure, unadulterated, *lavishly indulgent* anger and bitterness and despair and i yearn for more songs like it. nothing hits just right unless it's like this

[@rainbowflowerpower4464]

Literally this song had me dancing around my room, it’s not joy and like you said there’s unaltered and unbridled indulgence in anger and it’s so good to listen to and feel my own anger vicariously expressed through it, anger I’ve never really been able to get off my chest but it was freeing to hear it expressed dang I wish there were more songs like this!

[@meephaphan7691]

Big words

[@disastergirl888]

Death Cab for Cutie has a song called Styrofoam Plates which is about a deadbeat dad but has very similar energy. Also Brother’s Blood by Kevin Devine which is more grief and rage than bitterness but is also very cathartic.

[@Beefercow]

@@disastergirl888 thanks for the songs. I love them.

[@liviamuranyi4163]

The front bottoms's songs are a bit faster in pace, but they have the same sad and unsettling vibe. It's like your world is falling apart around you, and even with the people who you were the closest to, you kind of just hate each other now. There's no one to go to, there's no way out, and it's all just despair and emptiness. They are great for an existencial crisis... 10/10.

[@Misaio]

Others: Poor relationship vibes, divorce. Me, happily married: Moral Orel fucking slaps, babe. Edit: I meant the vibe of the song. I hope you guys allow yourselves to find happiness.

[@schleepy6362]

Aw🥺I actually needed a reminder that happy, healthy couples exist, thank you for this XD

[@StardustCorvid]

Moral Orel does indeed, slap

[@goldencatcyrielle8148]

Literally. There's a lot of slapping in this show

[@cgecko3]

@@goldencatcyrielle8148 "AnD ThIs ONeS FRoM jeSUS!"- Orel 5 seconds before finishing the greatest ass whooping Clay has ever received.

[@chilyguy9905]

I would literally do anything for the show to continue

[@mephilesfan]

i had known about this song before moral orel and had it in my playlists for a long time too, never paid it that much attention. i recently decided to FINALLY watch moral orel and holy shit this song hits so different. that show was the missing piece to this song for me and now it’s one of my favourites ever made. i relate to everyone in that show in the worse possible way and i fucking love it

[@ameatytulip374]

One of the weirdest nights of my life was my ex wife and I drunkenly screaming this song together. Probably the most constructive thing we ever did as a couple.

[@angryspleen3177]

Mission failed successfully.

[@arynbird7375]

that was kinda beautiful.

[@user-fn1lr7ek9q]

Is- is that the opposite of screaming "because I love you" in an argument?

[@Otra_Chica_de_Internet]

@@user-fn1lr7ek9q i think so lmao

[@chakiaman9375]

So wholesome 🥺

[@aquaticgrass2615]

This song has the same chaotic energy as an almost sucicide attempt.

[@aquaticgrass2615]

It also has the same chaotic energy of a suicide attempt.

[@dontmindme3142]

That- That makes actual sense

[@derangedyarn6544]

This is the same chaos I radiate... I don't know what to think of that...

[@aquaticgrass2615]

Mini Moon Don’t think of it unless you’re safe.

[@swag4rce]

bruh i thought that was a name of a song

[@sleepylionking1103]

Who else is here after watching the emotional damage Moral Orel gave us?

[@stayhydratedkingsqueens]

Meee

[@happykaeya]

Me.

[@legoeggot]

me

[@h_a1019]

Yuppp

[@woahhereiam6375]

yes.

[@thebeastlyish]

Lyrically this is POWERFUL art. nothing has encompassed the kind of anger and resentment ive felt like this. the hate for yourself and someone else at the same time is a entirely different kind of squalor.

[@Raikagon]

somehow this has anti-billy joel energy

[@PiracyandDumbbells]

You mean reverse Billy Joel.

[@cuddleslikespie]

Billy Joeln't

[@morningboy_]

Cuddleslikespie SJSJSJSJJDJDJSJSJDJSJS

[@ipsum2224]

Joelly Bill

[@dungeonsanddragonsanddrive2902]

It’s like a sad angry type of hopelessness. The people described in Piano Man are just dulled out by the beat down life gives them. They’re just accepting they’re sad. This song is a bitter sadness, not quite given up but at the point where they’re beyond caring.

[@eggb34n]

This song gives me the same surreal feeling as when you’ve stayed up all night and you walk down the empty street to see the sunrise in winter and you hear nothing but your steps, the trees, and then suddenly the birds

[@azulizachan7595]

Why is this so accurate? I haven't even done that

[@jensimpson4372]

And the sky is that wierd pink colour...

[@KingKhanate1997]

I disagree, I’ve experienced that feeling plenty of times and normally that one is accompanied by something resembling joy. Winter mornings in the Northeast are a bitch and cold as hell but also beautiful. This song on the other hand is like triple distilled despair, and not of the self harm kind. Like you have the pain inside you, and want to spread it as much as you can before leaving.

[@idontneedaname318]

that kind of surreal feeling sounds pleasant, which makes me confused as to how this song reminds you of that considering this song is like pure misery in a bottle

[@varad6540]

That feeling does seem nice but I will admit that hearing nothing but your steps and trees kinda rubs in the fact that you're alone on that walk

[@Melonlordrinrei]

What I like about the chorus is after saying 'I hope we both die' it feels, every time, like there was supposed to be another sentence but it was cut off and settled into resentment.

[@whateverIFeelLike]

I'm 6 years old sitting in my dads car as he drives me to the meeting place halfway between where my mom lives and my dad lives. We had an okay weekend, he rented movies we watched together and we tried to play some video games but the skill difference between a 6 year old and a 28 year old is pretty drastic. The divorce is still pretty recent and it's hitting me really hard. My dad puts in one of his CDs of music he likes. He made about a dozen of them and this sing was on the one he put on that day. I didn't get the lyrics, but I really liked the music. It sounded so jaunty and happy. I learned the lyrics pretty quick since it wasnt a long CD we listened to it a few times during the 90 minute drive. We finally arrive at a gas station in Chehalis and I hug my dad goodbye as I get into my moms car. All I could think about was this song. I start humming it and after 20 minutes I sing some of the lyrics to myself. My mom is very shocked and asked where I heard those words said. I told her it was a song my dad was listening to. Without knowing it I caused another fight and the rest of the car ride was very quiet.

[@sagecolvard9644]

Man, this guy really just wrote the most romantic melody ever and then sang pure bile to it. Respect.

[@xtzyshuadog]

So frustrated with the situation that it becomes lovely *desperation and anger and fear.* Nice song

[@crookedteeth1576]

This ain’t love sweetheart far from it

[@LUVS2SPWGE-69]

@@crookedteeth1576 ‘the most romantic melody’ not the most romantic song

[@Iwannaeatabiscuit]

i think its called lyrical dissonance where the lyrics and music dont match

[@marcyy5258]

@@crookedteeth1576u dumb as hell highkey

[@m_elisabeth_w2552]

My mom is divorcing my dad and he’s been listening to this song on repeat. Should I be worried lol

[@j357910]

Probably, but if it were me I’d want to stick around just to see how it plays out. Though if you want to get on his good side real quick you could make a joke about the alpha couple.

[@hunterra217]

Probably not, divorces can be extremely angry times but as long as theyre reasonable enough people they should be able to move past it, at the very least for your sake. If not, good luck soldier

[@KazmirRunik]

This is literally a divorce song.

[@InvisibleButton]

Divorce anthem

[@gabherre9439]

Thats awesome!

[@kaya347]

So when someone finally gets treatment for being suicidal, a sudden uptick in mood can be a red flag bc it means they are no longer too depressed not to act on it, but they are still feeling all the depressing things. That is what this song sounds like.

[@kris242]

I was 15 years old. I had this friend named Brolin in the year above me. Absolute genius of a guy. Legit, he got the highest standardized exam scores of my entire country and got an award for it. Me and him used to hang out after school sometimes and jam on my guitar, or the piano they left in the auditorium or just both. But mostly we'd just talk about music we liked. I didn't really know much about indie or outsider or just plain "unknown" music back then. One afternoon while we're hanging out, he says "Wanna hear the happiest depressing song ever??" I of course said "FUCK YES!!!". He then showed me this song and it... genuinely... blew my fucking MIND. I discovered more of John Darnielle afterwards, which led me on a loooooong track of my current weird music taste. But, I know it's hard for a lot of people to really pinpoint where their own taste in music stems from. I even have a hard time when it comes to the nitty-gritty. But if I ever had to choose one moment that truly influenced everything today... I would say, "Thanks, Brolin. You genuinely changed my life."

[@woooooooooooooooooooooooo]

I thought this was gonna end tragically, and I'm glad it didn’t.

[@theseerllama]

brolin sounds like the best bro to have as a friend

[@carolynstark471]

This song perfectly captures the feeling of being in a codependent relationship. Your dependency on them makes you resent and grow to hate your partner, yet you still can't leave because you feel like you need them. It's an all consuming kind of anger and desperation that makes dying feels more feasible than leaving

[@grarglejobber7941]

>codependent I didn't know roasties still used that word. I think it mostly died out around 2008

[@guilhermeshiba3135]

@UCD3DHiC6VEAUEFR5nSprUcw what does roastie mean

[@guilhermeshiba3135]

@@grarglejobber7941 guessing it's a bad word since KZbin auto modded my comment

[@isabelle843]

Yep.

[@paperpics]

Holy shit exactly this yes

[@gloriapanttaja798]

I have to say, I've seen the "hand in unlovable hand" line quoted so many times, but I always pictured the rest of the song having a very different tone than this. I like it, but for some reason I always pictured a much more romantic "we're both terrible, and have been destroyed by the world, but I love you", rather than "you suck, the world sucks, I suck, very much in that order"

[@emily-yj8rr]

your interpretation of the song is exactly the vibe of the show “you’re the worst”, the finale of which includes an amazing montage to this song. i recommend it if you haven’t seen!

[@tumultoustortellini]

True toxicity isn't burning the world down with the one you love, It's lighting the world on fire just to save you and to one you used to love for last

[@CalamitousJonathan]

It isn't about "we are both terrible" It is about her hand being a hand like any other that is just a lovable hand and my hand being unlovable and her hand taking my hand as I am playing her this love song that is completely destroying the relationship and I see it in her eyes. Knowing I am ending a relationship over what I think to be a love song, I know I am unlovable and thus my hand is unlovable. Keep in mind, I wrote this song on the spot while staring her in the eyes and seeing the relationship is over in her eyes. Because I knew her that well.

[@CalamitousJonathan]

This is the first and last love song I ever wrote.

[@CalamitousJonathan]

I still have nothing but the best things to say about her. She was great, but I can no longer remember her name or face. Just the moment she slipped her hand away and my fingers fell to the guitar as she turned and walked out of the door, never to show up to my house again. She is great. She is the greatest love I ever let get away. None were greater than her, and I haven't loved since.

[@jendouglas9781]

Everyone talks about Bloberta, but I think the song fits Orel's relation with Clay more. He's looked up to the guy for the entire first decade of his life and viewed him as the perfect christian, only for the camping trip to reveal how awful of a person he really is, and all the hard work in trying to make him proud to go to waist, now wanting nothing to do with him.

[@ussnorthcarolinabb-5517]

What a fitting song for Clay and Bloberta!

[@_ez3ilo150]

This song sounds like when you really hate that one person who’s just been there for you through everything and you don’t know why they just won’t leave already

[@smellsfishy1154]

yuppppp

[@katielucas4548]

O 🥲

[@eqwertman2556]

its what its about lmao

[@theharvinator]

@@eqwertman2556 no?

[@mike.hawk666]

So, it's about Bloberta?

[@hbabi7025]

"I am drowning. There is no sign of land. You are coming down with me. Hand in unloveable hand." This shows just how much they hate, yet need each other. Pure despair. Yet, a need.

[@chesneyevans]

That line alone perfectly sums up a shitty marriage.

[@juliya4845]

Tommmmmmmmmyyyyyy

[@jillianadams1407]

@@juliya4845 Iniiiiiiiit

[@no1legobatmanfan]

Orel when he morals or something idk i never watched it

[@Xx_animaljam.foxy_XX]

HELP

[@y.9645]

Man episode 1 S3 of Moral Orel really sets the dread early and it's like "That's right were heading to depressing town and it's about to get more depressing" and this song was the perfect introduction for that

[@spicyramencup3913]

“just get over it and forgive her already, she’s your mom at the end of the day” me and my mom’s relationship for the past 17 years:

[@meganhaines7049]

I haven’t spoken to my dad in 3 years even though we continued living in the same home, if he wanted to tell me anything he had to get my mum to tell me. He disgusts me as a person and I don’t want anything to do with him. I get a lot of crap from other family members about cutting him off but if someone is being toxic and it’s affecting you then you have every right to get rid of them family or not

[@energeticcreeper7969]

blood is the worst measure of how you should treat a person, there's no point reuniting

[@grarglejobber7941]

yeah get over it fr, if only because you're gonna carry that weight

[@OllieAzazel]

Same but in my case just as long as I can remember lol Just came to this song after she was being verbally abusive so yeaaaahhh.

[@ryanslade8073]

@@meganhaines7049 how did you manage to live in the same house with him?

[@wizardanerik]

Adds to the playlist" songs to listen to while locking yourself in your room when your parents are yelling at each other downstairs"

[@toothasaur]

Check out “dance music” by them then. It’s literally about that and it’s very cathartic

[@peepeetrain8755]

god i don't miss that for the life of me aye. It'll get better eventually mate. Happens to the best of us :)

[@USBmi]

I hope they don’t take it out on you. Please know that not all relationships are like that. Love is complicated but it should never hurt the people around you.

[@manda-panda]

Nooo.. Im sorry. That's a crappy situation to be in. Ive been there, & far worse. But they're just people too, who are trying their best - believe it or not. You've heard this before, but, you WILL understand when ur older. Unfortunately. Everyone is just human & we're all just trying our best. When (or if) you can learn to be patient, understanding, & love a person even when they're at their lowest, unlovable state, then you'll know you're more spiritually mature than 99% of the ppl in the world. Seriously. Adults are just big bodies with insecure kids inside. And it's nobody's fault. You'll be okay either way bc you'll soon realize that your happiness & future is ENTIRELY up to you. Nobody can do it for you. Stay strong, my friend 🤍

[@florentinaradu8484]

This song is now dedicated to my mother, my father and to their relationship

[@andynonymous6769]

Cheers same 🍻 Couldn't have picked a guy who didn't have substance abuse issues huh mom?

[@mariabarnes3119]

Same Heart goes out for you and anyone else who's parents struggles impacted them ❤

[@thetimelimit424]

SAME

[@daniellupear8122]

🥂Cheers I'll drink to that bro At least I have a reason to drink

[@kerrid5843]

Good goddess, fuck yes. Same. They are so toxic, I don't know how I am here.

[@davidmcintire1780]

For a few years after my marriage collapsed, Tallahassee was almost the only CD playing in my car. Day after day, to work and back, belting out the words at top volume on the freeway. I used to sing this song a capella at open mics when I was half drunk and while I'm certain I never did it justice, I've no doubt that it helped me get through some dark days.

[@izzyornquist5084]

Me @ whoever ate my macaroni

[@pleasestoptouchingmyfetus3045]

Please stop.

[@izzyornquist5084]

Ahailya Keshane-Quewezance what

[@pleasestoptouchingmyfetus3045]

@@izzyornquist5084 please stop eating my macaroni.

[@izzyornquist5084]

@@pleasestoptouchingmyfetus3045 mom, i told you its mine

[@pleasestoptouchingmyfetus3045]

@@izzyornquist5084 i gave birth to you, so I can take you out of this world. Give me my macaroni back.

[@averyfatturtle6651]

The Funny Part About This Is That It Kinda Counts As A Love Song

[@crunchygrunchy5741]

Cease

[@turtletaco9872]

The Funny Part About This Is That I, In Fact, Did Not Enjoy My Trip To Puke Land!

[@synthvvavve191]

Morel Orel never got the recognition it deserved

[@victorguevara9227]

I dedicate this to my mother and father's relationship. My mother's very verbally and emotionally abusive and hogs the TV to watch telenovelas all day. My father's a drunk and a jerk. My little sister compares their relationship to a Mexican Standoff. A more than 23 year long Mexican Standoff.

[@lee_1292]

At first I didn’t really like his voice but I’ve absolutely fallen in love with it.

[@houdamouaraf5591]

The alien didnt hold your unlovable hand as you were drowning hein...

[@lee_1292]

@@houdamouaraf5591 Damn son.... didja really have to do me like that?

[@houdamouaraf5591]

@@lee_1292 like i'd everytime i find your comment

[@ReCartded]

Oh He Doesn’t Change Orel, That’s Just His True Nature Coming Out.

[@stupidass69420]

“Why not?”

[@pawmations8522]

STOP IM SOBBING

[@Kyle-6969]

NO STOOPPPPP THAT SCENE MADE ME CRY

[@nerdynon-binary3517]

Everytime I hear this song I think of that quote

[@leeshapon]

stopppp it hurts

[@SplittToons]

Everyones talking about relationships but no one's talking about the song being featured in Moral Orel episode "Numb"

[@i6bland584]

I might be wrong but wasn’t the show basically based off this song ?

[@SplittToons]

@@i6bland584 Perhaps. I dunno

[@darknight10000]

@@i6bland584 No. The darker themes of the show didn't start coming up until the end of season 2, going into the third and final season.

[@MrGemHunter]

@@darknight10000 What are you talking about, the end of season one shows the releationship between Bloberta and Clay is unsalvageable, Clay realizes Shapey isnt his, they get divorced, and it ends with Orel praying for God to turn it around to a good Christmas with the two minuets he has left. Slowly pulling out into an empty heaven, the winds howling, his prayer unanswered.

[@darknight10000]

@@MrGemHunter Those events are saddening but they aren't on the same level as Clay shooting Orel or Ms. Sculptham reliving the time she was raped and using it as a way to get off. Or how Bloberta desperately tried to find love and attention form other people and was crushed when it turned out none of those people loved her. Or Clay causing his own family to unravel when he was a child due to his own selfish nature. The point of that last moment in the Christmas special was to show that no matter what happens to him Orel still hoped and believed things would turn out okay. You don't need God or any other omnipotent being to answer Orel back while he prays. Praying in silence is the point. It's not the result or lack thereof from praying. It's just to show that Orel won't let the world crush his spirit no matter what. If anything it also shows that Orel took what his grandfather wrote to him to heart.

[@yourlocalwaifu8601]

Man I wished we could've gotten those 2 more seasons of Moral Orel

[@zachbutler9484]

I'm feeling some serious relevance to this song... "If I found the strength to walk out, you'd stay the hell out of my way"

[@fellower]

Zach Butler I'm not sure that you'd want to relate to this song. This song appears to be about the best possible romance for two of the equally worse people on this planet.

[@howtomeetwomen-]

The way he holds the word "way". Determined, almost triumphant.

[@Coeurlarme]

Maximus taken out of context, the sentence is easily taken as someone talking about leaving an abusive relationship.

[@a.dykeman1980]

This is the most nihilistically cruel, spiteful, utterly depressed song I've ever heard. It's almost beautiful, in a way, how well it paints the picture of someone who's either totally, unstoppable awful, completely and irrevocably ruined, or both.

[@snoopsq.527]

“No Children” And thank god there aren’t any.

[@riverbanzachamploo9725]

I remember this song on Morel Orel. It pretty much sums up the growing resentment that festers in the "stay together for the kids" type marriages.

[@slint69]

The musical equivalent of a Charles Bukowski Poem. Dealing with Depression, Alienation, Alcoholism and the General Despair of the Human Condition. Yet Still Immensely Beautiful.

[@vikiv9322]

I rarely comment on KZbin but man, this is a stellar addition, thank you for this thought!

[@gooeyboba9838]

which one?

[@berrybrooks1403]

this song makes me wanna get married just so i can divorce

[@Theoncestsystem]

I didn’t know how to explain how this song made me feel until I read this comment-

[@skiepk]

Not worth it

[@trishell.longlastname]

y tho lol

[@shelbysmith6021]

Just throw $300 into the trash and you’ll feel better

[@NicoandIndy]

thank you for writing the most real song ever, I'm not ready to be saved. I just want someone who understands that and we go down together hating eachother.

[@pacoramon9468]

"Your mom loves your dad?"

[@Deactivatedsorry]

Rollercoaster of a show

[@Portalain0]

@@Deactivatedsorry Yep. I went in with the expectation that it would be in line with the rest of the shows on that block. How wrong I was.

[@prettyguardian8386]

I love how you can really see the connection the couple has. It’s like they fit together only as a defiance against everyone else. A real us against the world. But at the same time neither want any of it and want everything to blow up so it can just be over. “Our friends say it’s darkest before the sun rises but we’re pretty sure they’re all wrong. “ I feel like this a lot. Perhaps not the was the song describes. I don’t have a bad partner. But I just kinda want things to burn away, so I don’t have to go on anymore. To hell with people who try to impose themselves in my life. To hell with people who insist on forgiving me when I don’t want them in my life. To hell with bubbly anecdotes for a carefree life. I’m here living out my misery the best I can, hoping one day it puts me somewhere I can just be me. Life doesn’t do checks and balances on happiness. Enough negative marbles don’t turn in a large good marble on the other side. Life doesn’t work that way. This song really gets my feels, but it’s also real enough that I can laugh.

[@callingthevoid]

Hell yeah! Positive nihilism at it's best

[@kaweenis]

yeah thats exactly how i feel too. thank you for putting it into words.

[@dallyh.2960]

" Life doesn’t do checks and balances on happiness. Enough negative marbles don’t turn in a large good marble on the other side." Nah, life works how you want it, but okay.

[@prettyguardian8386]

Dally H. “Life works how you want it” hope you’re life is giving you all that you “want “ then. I’m glad some people have such pristine lives that only wants matter. What a fair and just world.

[@bennett3697]

Me: Jeez, this is a very angry song. Also me: *downloads and memorizes the song because it's my new favorite one* this song is awesome

[@jimlakejr.ismyson3696]

xxjay.birdxx Man, that sounds like when I memorized all the words to “Excellent Choice” by The Horrors in middle school (this version- kzbin.info/www/bejne/haichX9tqZWBoM0 Also implied suicide warning )

[@ashleyhileman4180]

Same same same

[@trishell.longlastname]

yesssss me too brother me too

[@FistoftheSnackBar]

A decade ago I described it as "brutally upbeat" when I was trying to explain to someone why I love this horrible genius song so much.

[@the_opossum_guy]

I know everyone has these deep theories on the songs meaning, my mom told me a theory that I like. It's just when you and your partner get very mad at each other over something dumb, and you both know you shouldn't argue over it because its dumb, but neither of you are giving up. That's why he sings 'I hope you blink before I do.'. He's so dedicated on winning that he doesnt even want to lose at blinking.

[@leyrounni1304]

That's also a fun theory but I think "blink" is supposed to mean "die" 😅

[@SomeGuyUsingTheInternet]

Ngl, one of my favorite interpretations. It just....fits. Really, really well. I hope you get better soon, @Yeehaw Opossum, good luck with your life.

[@pastelguts6182]

This song brings on an emotion I cannot name. It's like you just come down from a fit of rage and now you are filled with a calm sense of hatred

[@ClownBoomer]

So I’m currently trying to get out of a toxic relationship, and this song made me really put into perspective how toxic the relationship actually was. I’ve listened to this song god knows how many times because of how relatable the message is. I’ve broken down because of it. But I’m almost out. I’m so close to not relating to this song. Wish me luck, comment section. Im working off the confidence to finally cut it off. Update: we broke up! It was complicated, difficult, and stressful but I don’t regret it at all. And if anyone else dealt with something like this I am so so sorry and just know that you are strong. You can do this. It may seem impossible but don’t give up.

[@someonesomeone68]

If you ever need support just ask bestie

[@someonesomeone68]

If you ever need support then just ask

[@rebeccaspratling2865]

Some people are meant to be in our lives for only a certain period of time and that's ok. 🙂 I hope both of you are doing great now.

[@katielucas4548]

Love u

[@kjarakravik4837]

That's awesome, good for you!

[@Nord_Kitten]

to anyone saying #1 wedding song, you are either the best couple that will never get tired of each other or one of you is going to murder the other.

[@Hi_My_Names_Ryan]

Morel Orel goated no cap

[@JackMatthews1998]

“Sacrifice! Exactly! I sacrificed! The ultimate sacrifice! My happiness for my kids! You bet I did! You bet I did…and I’d do it again, too! I'd do it over and over again! That's my life! Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over…” “Ok, Clay. I get the point.” “NO! YOU! DON’T!”

[@Portalain0]

To me, the emotion in that last line has always felt very... real. In my opinion the person who voiced him (a co-creator of the series, I believe) did a fucking outstanding job at realistically portraying that bitter, manipulative, miserable man.

[@EthanDoezYT]

This song radiates self-destructive and chaotic depressing energy. I seriously love the way this song sounds but it also makes me so sad.

[@donovanulrich348]

Its not about self destruction But its a consequence of giving up on something that big in your life You dont have to end someone time on earth, to kill the soul or numb it nearly to death

[@steampowered6883]

The lyrics seem so absurdly pessimistic that I just find them funny.

[@hornsholdinghellishlyhotho7396]

Idk, this song sings self-destruction

[@johnvandal1295]

What gave it away Dilbert lmfao

[@immagreenunit8301]

@@johnvandal1295 nice reference

[@hayden7504]

This song fits Clay Puppington so perfectly.

[@deadNdivine12]

I want more Moral Orel... Maybe one day we'll get goth Morel, but no we will not. Thanks to the show for allowing us to hear this song.

[@sleepinginmute]

yesss