The Murder of Venus Xtravaganza From Paris is Burning

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astral dante

astral dante

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@hollyobaby6949
@hollyobaby6949 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish Venus got what she wanted from life. Her story really did make me cry.
@astraldante
@astraldante 2 жыл бұрын
just tragic and heartbreaking
@hollyobaby6949
@hollyobaby6949 2 жыл бұрын
@@astraldante thanks for choosing to cover her. I know she’s legendary in a cult classic way so it’s not the most searched for topic. I do think it would give her some happiness to know that a few thousand people really continue see her as a person that shines and has a gentle heart.
@astraldante
@astraldante 2 жыл бұрын
@@hollyobaby6949 yes yes... se deserved the world and if all I could do was spread her story to a few new people that's fine with me
@evelyna_paula1747
@evelyna_paula1747 2 жыл бұрын
@@hollyobaby6949 Do you believe in life after death, reincarnation, etc?
@OctavioXtravaganza70
@OctavioXtravaganza70 11 ай бұрын
I am Octavio Xtravaganza …..you showed the wrong photo of Hector… you showed the Grandfather Hector Xtravaganza… not the founder of the House …. The House Of Xtravaganza is considered Royalty in the ballroom till this day…
@allenmaa7064
@allenmaa7064 4 ай бұрын
That’s amazing to introduce yourself as an Xtravaganza! 😮❤🎉 It is royalty!!
@RafaelNogueras-e6j
@RafaelNogueras-e6j 2 ай бұрын
O wow that is really cool to know. While watching this video I asked myself if the ballroom scene was still something popular in the community. I'm glad to hear that it still is . Its something that I remember growing up with when I firs came out. This video brought back so many memories of my youth. The fun the excitement the hanging out all night 😂😂. It was definitely a great time in history for the community. A much simpler Time. ❤❤❤❤.
@saturnhadeswright9170
@saturnhadeswright9170 2 ай бұрын
So if you want to know more about ballroom culture ballroom culture is kind of bigger than it was in the past there is a show called legendary and let's say you like Willie Ninja from Paris is burning his house the house of ninja performed on season 1 of legendary​@@RafaelNogueras-e6j
@saturnhadeswright9170
@saturnhadeswright9170 2 ай бұрын
I really wish that the person who did this video did just a little bit more research because the ballroom culture is still alive as someone who did BLM in 2020 a lot of the protests that we did was hosted by people from ballroom culture and we would actually hold balls in the middle of the street in New York City ballroom culture is very much alive there's a show called legendary you can still access ballroom culture like even if you're not queer or if you don't live in a major city through that show I've met people like from House of Gucci or House of Saint Laurent. Also I wish that the person who made this video had used quotes from the movie I feel like some of the information that was presented in this video was Lost in translation because of how it was communicated
@m.a.3772
@m.a.3772 Жыл бұрын
Venus met Hector Xtravaganza in the early 80's which was the founder and creator of the house of Xtravaganza. The Hector that is mentioned was a member of the house who then took over the house as father in later year's after Ian Xtravaganza passed on. Venus Xtravaganza was the main daughter of Angie the mother at that time. She's forevermore the favorite of Paris is burning Documentary. R.I.P Venus Pellagatti (Xtravaganza) 🙏🕊
@laminage
@laminage 8 ай бұрын
Sadly he may have died of Aids in 1985 the same year Rock Hudson did.
@laminage
@laminage 8 ай бұрын
Sadly he may have died of Aids in 1985 the same year Rock Hudson did.
@laminage
@laminage 8 ай бұрын
Sadly he may have died of Aids in 1985 the same year Rock Hudson did.
@m.a.3772
@m.a.3772 8 ай бұрын
@laminage Unfortunately yes he passed around that time of Aids related complications.
@covertLLC
@covertLLC 2 жыл бұрын
Touch this skin DARLING!! Touch This Skin HONEY!! TOUCH ALL OF THIS SKIN!!! You just CAN'T TAKE IT!! 😆 I loved her in "Paris Is Burning"..
@kennyroman9589
@kennyroman9589 10 ай бұрын
This is; Magenta! Who was a bangee boy of the House of Carrington in the 80s! My brother new Venus X. Everyone who hungout at Pier 45 in the village heard of her murder, and were shock! That a house member was murdered like that! Anyway thanks for sharing her story!!
@antoniamcgregor3285
@antoniamcgregor3285 2 жыл бұрын
My heart brakes for venus I hope she's safe in heaven 🙏 💔 this story is so heartbreaking watching paris is burning and pose has educated me a lot about trans people I'm learning to be a better ally 💖💖❤🌈
@deepconnection1169
@deepconnection1169 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your support. You have no idea how important your understanding and acceptance of our life is so powerful. You change how people treat us by leading the way. So, I thank you so much for your support. Blessings to you. ❤😊🎉
@prettybwillowbee7584
@prettybwillowbee7584 4 ай бұрын
Lady, you're delusional
@deepconnection1169
@deepconnection1169 Жыл бұрын
My heart hurts for Venus. She never got the chance to find her happiness. It’s so terribly unfair. She should be here with us living her dreams. You do a great show, and you are so easy on the eyes. What an adorable and very handsome guy you are. Just wow. Damn. ❤
@adrianh332
@adrianh332 Жыл бұрын
He is kinda cute and that's from a staunch heterosexual 🤭
@mrojedapiano
@mrojedapiano 27 күн бұрын
Paris is Burning has been one of the most influential films for me personally. I saw it when I was 19 and coming out and I circle back to it periodically. It gives me grounding to know what it was like for the generation before me and how that paved the way for me today. P.S. I discovered you today and you are very cute 😍
@XBloodxStainedxLipsX
@XBloodxStainedxLipsX 2 жыл бұрын
Justice for Venus!✊🙏
@skyleneescobar7398
@skyleneescobar7398 Жыл бұрын
Growing up in the ballroom myself Venus’s story is legendary sadly they’re many stories like this a few even with other girls from the house of xtrava. Also the character of candy on the tv show pose is based on Venus
@rosemaryrogers1478
@rosemaryrogers1478 2 жыл бұрын
Venus was not a house “leader” ..she was just a member of the house of extravaganza who got in the house by charm,not deed
@evelyna_paula1747
@evelyna_paula1747 2 жыл бұрын
The guy explained that. How did you miss it?
@AngelDelight69
@AngelDelight69 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get how this crime wasn't solved. Now it would be more difficult to find her killer but it was estimated she had died four days prior to her body discovery. The police should have checked the check-in history for that specific room between the 19th of December all the way to the 25th. Anyone in that period would be a suspect for her murder but police didn't even attempt this in what would have likely easily given them their killer. This goes to show how bad the police treated trans people because this murder would not be hard to solve as it's not pre-meditated it's 100% the heat of the moment. With the killer strangling her. In fact even today it would be solvable because they need to keep a record of who stays in their hotels.
@Seamstrix
@Seamstrix Жыл бұрын
At that time, especially in dive hotels, they just had you sign in with whatever name and didn't check ID's and the customer probably paid cash. At the very least the person she was with thought they were hooking up with a sex worker and wouldn't want that to be traceable even if the murder was unplanned.
@piffblanco2507
@piffblanco2507 10 ай бұрын
Prolly was a Police
@evangeline77x
@evangeline77x 7 ай бұрын
In those days you didn't need any ID or a credit/debit card for a hotel room, in fact you just paid cash ($20ish for a whole night) and absolutely no questions were asked. You could sign the registry as whoever you wanted and there was no way to trace guests except maybe eyewitnesses. But, at a place like the duchess motel, where people would go just to get high or meet prostitutes and you could pay an hourly rate (literally just rent the room for an hour or 2) there were constantly dozens of extra sketchy people coming in and out, so nobody was paying attention. And it's very unlikely anyone would come forward even if they had witnessed the killer, just because they would have had to explain why they were there, and the employees certainly weren't keeping tabs.. Also closed circuit security cameras were in their infancy, quality was grainy black and white and and either completely overexposed or barely visible low light like an ink blot, and most places didn't even have them. Barring a deathbed confession, which is unlikely at this point, I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened to Venus.
@essaeldridgeYoBro
@essaeldridgeYoBro 4 ай бұрын
All I see on Instagram is trans people being murdered and the perpetrators getting away with it. The police don’t want to solve trans crimes, they probably find it funny, sadly. 💔💔
@AngelDelight69
@AngelDelight69 4 ай бұрын
@@essaeldridgeYoBro it's ridiculous tbh
@chelseapowless2339
@chelseapowless2339 2 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel and I’m so glad! You’re so sweet and I can tell you really do your research and care about the cases you cover. I can’t believe how much of an impact Venus has made on popular culture! I think I knew almost all of her quotes from drag race
@astraldante
@astraldante 2 жыл бұрын
YES YES it was crazy watching paris is burning becuz i literally knew SM OF HER LANGUAGE without even being exposed to her which is crazy
@robertshearer6551
@robertshearer6551 Жыл бұрын
So young. So sad. Pose brought me to Paris is burning, she was just so young. 😢
@ScarletSinclair101
@ScarletSinclair101 24 күн бұрын
In loving memory of Venus Xtravaganza, ripped away to soon. So many hearts you touched, may she rest in peace 🕊️❤️
@youre_totally_right_but_
@youre_totally_right_but_ Жыл бұрын
her story was so heartbreaking. thank you for making a video about her.
@tsdiggs78
@tsdiggs78 Жыл бұрын
If you watch pose what happens to candy is very very similar to what happened to venus.
@SANTIAGO1979PR
@SANTIAGO1979PR 4 ай бұрын
One correction: Ballroom culture is still very big in the mostly black clubs even more so in Europe and even Asia.
@NatashaRaisorGlam
@NatashaRaisorGlam 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for keeping Venus’s memory🙏🏾
@rrhondell
@rrhondell Ай бұрын
I'm haunted by how cruel fate was to Venus. I fell in love with her in that film and was devastated when they revealed that she was murdered. She deserved everything she dreamed of and not what happened to her. 😢
@mauricehawkes2674
@mauricehawkes2674 Жыл бұрын
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 This makes me so sad that Venus’ flame was extinguished in such a horrific and devastating way. She wasn’t allowed to live her best life and do all the things she wanted to do. So so sad 😞 . We will never forget u Venus! You were a star 🌟 than shone so brightly. Ur an inspiration to so many people. I hope your resting in peace Miss Venus. #justiceforvenus #gonebutneverfogotten #rip #venusxtravaganza #inspiration 🩷❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🩶🤍🤎
@sh-wa-na8255
@sh-wa-na8255 2 жыл бұрын
you gotta put school first! so happy for you 💕
@colleenperez5607
@colleenperez5607 2 жыл бұрын
Paris is Burning is a MUCH watch!!!! I LOVED it!!!
@astraldante
@astraldante 2 жыл бұрын
TRULY A WORK OF ART! still tryna figure out why it’s not a required viewing in colleges
@rosemaryrogers1478
@rosemaryrogers1478 2 жыл бұрын
YOU OWN EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING IS YOURS🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥.YESSS
@ShevasSlave
@ShevasSlave 2 жыл бұрын
You’re back! Yasss
@astraldante
@astraldante 2 жыл бұрын
I AM YESSIR
@RafaelNogueras-e6j
@RafaelNogueras-e6j 2 ай бұрын
Wow this brought back alot of memories of my youth. I had alot of friends that were into the ballroom scene. Great times and memories. But also alot of sad memories. ❤❤❤❤
@pocketcampgyal1800
@pocketcampgyal1800 2 ай бұрын
Watching paris is burning and the current season of drag race all stars made me emotional. Whenever I looked at Venus she somehow reminded me of Jorgeous, just the way they talked, walked, and their demeanor. These two people lived such different lives simply due to the time they were born in, it's so sad.
@caylapelkey3305
@caylapelkey3305 2 жыл бұрын
She should be remembered, thankyou for sharing
@Kiro6666
@Kiro6666 2 жыл бұрын
The one who killed venus was the guy that almost killed her the last time she was on a date with a guy he fone out she was a guy she jumped out the window she got away with it maybe he finds her and kill's her that was the story she was telling people at tracks the club
@adrianh332
@adrianh332 Жыл бұрын
Unlikely Venus would hook up with a trick that had previously attempted to kill her, maybe think a little before putting pen to paper (so to speak).
@bandygreen2456
@bandygreen2456 Жыл бұрын
That’s a very large stretch. Keep in mind this was in the 80’s. Unless she was working the same corner and didn’t recognize him, how could that first man try to find her. Even years later. It’s much more likely it was another man in a similar situation.
@Copiaswife
@Copiaswife 2 жыл бұрын
YAYY YOU’RE BACK
@karenwilson9528
@karenwilson9528 4 ай бұрын
Thankyou for the extra information on Venus. I watched the film years ago, but wanted to know more about her death. She was such a delicate little thing and you couldn't tale your eyes off her - at least I couldn't.
@kellymendez
@kellymendez Жыл бұрын
Venus will always be remembered
@Ariel692769
@Ariel692769 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad story. Venus's bf in the film was murdered too.
@Missab4000
@Missab4000 Жыл бұрын
Oh man. Didn’t know that. 😢
@ladivinapr
@ladivinapr Жыл бұрын
For real?
@bobbyhogg5727
@bobbyhogg5727 3 ай бұрын
As a gay person, I’m really not a fan of reinventing the language. You’re using all these recently invented terms and applying them to people who lived forty years ago. Those gay people who lived forty years ago didn’t use any of those terms, and they didn’t even think along those lines. In a way you’re mistakenly redefining them and making fictions about them. But I love Venus, and I’m glad she’s being remembered.❤
@JV-hu1rs
@JV-hu1rs 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@astraldante
@astraldante 2 жыл бұрын
ty!
@kellymendez
@kellymendez Жыл бұрын
Her murderer is still out there
@RafaelNogueras-e6j
@RafaelNogueras-e6j 2 ай бұрын
THAT IS SCARY SHIT!
@donaldstevens2392
@donaldstevens2392 Жыл бұрын
Baby..please go back and research your story more..I was there for all of the 80 and 90 ballroom. It's not like a team....they took care of each other as a family.....
@astraldante
@astraldante Жыл бұрын
This is true! I think I was just trying to explain how i understood the competitive nature of ball culture where people were awarded for the different categories. You’re right that it is more like a family, as in the 80s/90s it was essential gay people had certain areas they could find community especially during AIDS epidemic when societal stigma was at a peak. Thanks for pointing this out!
@adrianh332
@adrianh332 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGaYkottgrl0aKs Here is a link to a video of outtakes from Paris is Burning, with a long interview with Venus which gives us much greater insights into her life.
@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living
@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I would recommend anyone who watched “Paris is Burning” to watch the outtakes, because it gave a deeper picture on a lot of the subjects in the movie, especially Venus.
@donnellclark5841
@donnellclark5841 2 ай бұрын
Reading is a very old term. It was wide used in the 1960's and beyond. That is a term used in the Gay culture often.
@haunt420
@haunt420 2 жыл бұрын
I missed you brother!!!
@valenvenus
@valenvenus 3 ай бұрын
you're very right about the "blending" between being a drag queen or a trans woman in the 70s and 80s. Pepper LaBeija was sort of nonbinary or trans fem it seemed. but because she didn't want to medically transition or get a sex change she didn't consider herself trans, even though she went by the pronoun "she" and had gotten breast implants.
@soy_0scar7
@soy_0scar7 2 жыл бұрын
May GOD bless and protect you!
@centurycountess4949
@centurycountess4949 8 ай бұрын
this was really sad, a friend and I were watching paris is burning last night. mainly because of Dorian Corey, i had to stop mid way because it was late and a friend and i plan to finish it next time they come over, but the name Venus sounded familar, then i saw this video pop up about her and was very sad to learn she was killed. I'm suprised this case was never picked up because normally the hotel archive their guest sign in lists. I'm sure if they look they might be able to find it. Even if this person used an alias normally an alias might of been a nickname or something connected to them still. and a simple exposure to the public kinda like what they do with unknown reconstructed face sketches. if anyone still around that might know the name or the alias they might be able to find them. That is if hotels still have maintained and preserved that old tradition of archiving now that everything is archived on the computer.
@medavog
@medavog 2 ай бұрын
fab video
@Chrisdoesntlikenoisecore
@Chrisdoesntlikenoisecore Жыл бұрын
she was so beautiful :(
@louisved
@louisved 2 жыл бұрын
did you know where exactly was the duchess hotel ? maybe we could make a mini memorial
@ayeshahills
@ayeshahills Жыл бұрын
5:15 The house are still a big thing, bigger than they were. Yes now its all about how much they pay you but they still do exist but its mostly all about voguing now instead of drag
@astraldante
@astraldante Жыл бұрын
i may need to attend one of these balls u got the addy 🤭
@ayeshahills
@ayeshahills Жыл бұрын
@@astraldante it depends where ur from there are facebook groups that show where some balls are for example im from austria so its a bit less here than in the us but i believe ballroom is almost everywhere now.
@trao1938
@trao1938 4 ай бұрын
You made a 20 minute video where all you did was regurgitate information from the documentary.
@amyevans1118
@amyevans1118 2 жыл бұрын
Happy your back.
@Reminisce212
@Reminisce212 4 ай бұрын
And ballroom culture is bigger than it ever was…. Like where are you from??? You fkd up a lot of information
@phillyguy199
@phillyguy199 5 ай бұрын
No tea, no shade but this is more like a summary from the movie. I'd hoped to learn a bit more. For example, that shade she threw, as I heard it, was for the cameras, but not really what Venus was like at all in real life. Also as s another commenter wrote, the Candy story arc mirrored Venus's. I'd like to add that Pose completely shied away from the reasons behind transgender violence, but you did hit on it. Often times the Johns don't realize they were with men or they do realize they are with biological men and when they have "post nut clarity," they begin to think they are gay and in the black community in particular, that's verboten.
@MadonnaGoldfan
@MadonnaGoldfan 10 ай бұрын
Ector extravaganza died after the second season of pose
@sypros5621
@sypros5621 3 ай бұрын
Venus was going compete with the likes of Christy Brinkley and Brooke Shields? Big fantasizer, all the way around.
@lizt4592
@lizt4592 2 жыл бұрын
Angie was her mother
@Oh_DeER_1_1o1_1
@Oh_DeER_1_1o1_1 4 ай бұрын
¡Venus Xtravaganza no calla!
@Kiro6666
@Kiro6666 2 жыл бұрын
Venus was Fierce Fiercely made to Rock the Runways and Preforming Vogueing and carry out the Catalogs embrace the beautiful Moment’s of our life’s journey because it’s very short Remember to always record take lot’s of videos Remember to leave a Mark on this crazy Planet we call Earth we are the Aliens we we’re out here to see who Serve’s and who Doesn’t wishing everyone a wonderful journey on there’s journey Much Peace and love and happiness to all
@matthewharjo7512
@matthewharjo7512 Жыл бұрын
If you want to say something and come across educated, deep, and poetic. Use proper punctuation and spelling. Because trying to come across like you’re deep and poetic, but your comment lacks proper spelling and punctuation, you just come across as ignorant.
@rosemaryrogers1478
@rosemaryrogers1478 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just get Into the story please?
@astraldante
@astraldante 2 жыл бұрын
no i love to talk blah blah blah
@rosemaryrogers1478
@rosemaryrogers1478 2 жыл бұрын
@@astraldante ok.I still found your story interesting...I wanted you to get straight to it
@omarfigueroa9370
@omarfigueroa9370 Ай бұрын
No fluid fax here.
@EllanDay-hz2ib
@EllanDay-hz2ib 4 ай бұрын
Stop raving and get on with the story ! Most people know about Paris is Burning as we all older then you ……👎
@alancronberger9898
@alancronberger9898 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are good, but I felt just cut to the chase.
@astraldante
@astraldante Жыл бұрын
noted!
@Kiro6666
@Kiro6666 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are very intelligent and interesting very handsome Guy very cute as well New York City Rocks
@PlayBoiPriince
@PlayBoiPriince Жыл бұрын
I love this video but let me tell u ballroom houses are just as popular today or more today because we’ve made it to main stream media now
@astraldante
@astraldante Жыл бұрын
interesting!! i think i was thinking more underground performances in new york city… but i see ur point with legendary coming out on tv
@ricardobermudez8453
@ricardobermudez8453 8 ай бұрын
First of all. Thank you for keeping the memory of Venus alive. I came out in 1992 in the West Village. My roommate is a LatinX TG woman who is the same age as Venus and Octavia. Octavia was a character. Venus and her use to go to the place for hormones. There was a serial killer targeting TG women back then. Unfortunately, we knew a lot of girls who were killed the same way. Cops did not investigate those murders. Be careful using the term “ lifestyles” That is offensive. I am one of the last surviving members of my original peer group. My mom was supportive. A lot of my friends got kicked out of their homes and needed to resort to survival tactics such as sex work that was often tied to drug use. It was not a lifestyle but survival. I am not in the ball scene but have a lot of friends who are Xtrava. I don’t think they would appreciate you saying that they were a force as they still are. This was not the peek of ballroom it was the beginning. This scene has since got international. You could have reached out to them before posting out of respect.
@evelyna_paula1747
@evelyna_paula1747 2 жыл бұрын
Explain how it is weird for people in her days to mix up those words (transgender, transvestite, cross dresser). You use the word "weird" unnecessarily.
@astraldante
@astraldante 2 жыл бұрын
A time stamp would be helpful but if I'm understanding you correctly, I most likely used weird becuz the terms you listed all represent different things. In my research it seemed like at the time there was no differentiation between crossdresser or a transwoman which is a bit bizarre or "weird" to me as today these are commonly understood and accepted as different words which refer to different types of people.
@evelyna_paula1747
@evelyna_paula1747 2 жыл бұрын
@@astraldante Using a wrong word is not weird if the differe3nce is not drastic, like night and day.
@reneesimone5713
@reneesimone5713 4 ай бұрын
I saw her a few times she did jump in and out of cars at the pier I used to think damn she’s bold and as for the cops most cops in and around Manhattan was kinda nice to us and looked out also those sleaze hotels didn’t check guess visitors they just walked on through.
@taylordottie5858
@taylordottie5858 Жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for Venus! She should have been able to live her dreams. NYC is not as open and accepting as people claim.
@Meesoo-nu5pj
@Meesoo-nu5pj Жыл бұрын
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