The Murderous Pilot Who Claimed 149 Lives... | The Tragedy of Flight 9525

[@trunkb73625]

My grandfather refused to fly for his whole life up until a couple years ago. He always used to say "I don't know what kind of day that pilot is having"

[@Right_Said_Brett]

There's not a lot of logic in that line of thinking, not unless your Grandfather also refused to get in a taxi, ride a bus or board a train.

[@chloedesousa957]

​@@Right_Said_Brett kind of is logic in it. One miscalculation and you die in an airplane. Crashes are usually catastrophic. Not so with a cab, bus, etc.

[@Right_Said_Brett]

@@chloedesousa957 It's still illogical because safety standards for aircraft and pilots is vastly greater than it is for motor vehicles and drivers. Your odds of being in an accident during a flight is 1 in 1.2 million and the chances of that accident being fatal are 1 in 11 million. Whereas your chances of being in a motor car crash are 1 out of 366 for every 1,000 miles traveled and the odds of dying in a car crash as a driver are 1 in 114, and 1 in 654 as a passenger. You are MUCH more likely to die in a car crash, than you are a plane crash. There's a reason why every fatal plane crash makes the news, whereas fatal car crashes aren't reported on. It's because the latter is an everyday occurrence, whilst the former is exceptionally rare.

[@thisoneguyiknow2197]

@@Right_Said_Brett lol you can't trust people for shit now days. That's how you end up kidnapped or killed, pay attention to your surroundings and people you're around man. You gotta be more aware of what's going on.

[@charlesgagnon1129]

@@chloedesousa957 Not one miscaculation, you need a lot to get an airplane crash. It is the safest way of transport. An airplane crash is indeed harder to survive than a car crash but also very very very rare.

[@Odysseusx86]

What a selfish fucking prat. Any sympathy towards him as a mental health victim went right out the window the moment he decided to bring others down with him and left nothing but a ruthless killer. Good video though, would definitely enjoy more content like this

[@akmaljonqosimzoda8909]

Exactly! If you don't want to live anymore, why do you f**king have to take 149 innocent lives who wanted to go back to their families?😢. Hell for him.

[@kosmosfan01]

Yeah. Those passengers did nothing but get on a plane and ended up getting condemned to death by the very person that was suppose to ensure their safety while traveling.

[@justin3947]

I have no pity for this guy he basically murdered all these innocent people

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

most serial killers are lucky to get 10 kills, this guy took 149

[@nowayitskevin]

not to take away anything you've said because you're not wrong, but what I thought of was how he was not eligible for that particular insurance because of his depression. I wonder if he would have received the peace of mind had he been eligible, he wouldn't have killed all these people?

[@robd2184]

As a 30 year professional pilot , what he did was horrific , cowardly and brought the whole profession into disrepute. RIP to the innocent victims , Andreas can rot in hell.

[@MoralesCorner]

God bless you sir

[@sonny1611]

During my flight attendant training, this story was mentioned since it made such a huge impact on the aviation industry with the added precautions and procedures to prevent anything as horrendous as this from happening again. I remember when we had a moment of silence for the victims as well as their families... What an absolute tragedy...

[@knightwalker5966]

What kind of procedures or precautions are put in place for things like this? Like is the door now able to be open

[@senpainoticeme9675]

@@knightwalker5966 The senior most flight attendant is now required to accompany the pilot remaining on the cockpit when one of the pilot steps outside of it. The door remains closed since that is part of the post 9/11 security.

[@yungthug2403]

@@senpainoticeme9675 and what on earth is a flight attendant (most likely a woman) gonna do to stop a full grown man lol? Very poor attempt, I have an idea any person with any form of depression or previous depression can simply not become a pilot even if it was just 1 month 10 years ago

[@senpainoticeme9675]

@@yungthug2403 she can open the door and ask help from other people? I mean post 9/11 security ensured the cockpit must be locked at all times. That is the best compromise the airlines can ensure since air marshals are anonymous until their assistance are requested.

[@yungthug2403]

@@senpainoticeme9675 yeah but I’m pretty sure the pilot would be aware she can do that and will KO her once alone, before she suspects anything and not give her the chance

[@MoonWielder]

I can't even imagine the horror of those passengers that went through actual hell on that diabolical, doomed plane. Just the feeling of them being helpless must've been horrible.

[@bryceharper446]

Can not imagine omg!! I don’t fly anymore- too scary.

[@hollyfarr7209]

Diabolical 👌 great word

[@ButtSauce666]

Is that the creator of God Slap as your PP?

[@evandaymon8303]

Fact germany barely did anything about it after the fact that it happen is even more worse then you think.

[@mikemartinez3455]

I'd have a heart attack well before hitting the ground, unimaginable. RIP to victims especially children.

[@michellsmith4693]

I have suffered depression my whole life. I have NEVER considered hurting other people. How selfish.

[@kenirainseeker539]

Same. Most people with depression do not want to hurt others. Usually when depressed people want to kill themselves, they have such a negative view of themselves they believe others would be better off without them, (Not saying it's rational or true, but that's what depression does to you) not that they want to hurt anyone.

[@eva1585]

Havent suffered with it my whole life but for a lot of years and currently dealing with it and i feel the same. You have to be another level of fucked up to bring even 1, let alone 149 other lives with you. Like another comment said its so sad to hear him describe some of the passengers, teens, newly weds, pregnant people, infants, ect. People who have so much to look forward to who have their whole lives ahead of them cut short by this prick.

[@ThatOneWeirdChannell]

same. 2018 my baby momma left me after 8 years together. 2 kids together (now 9 and 4) when she broke up with me i started drinking and sadely i still am drinking to this day but not as bad in 2018/2019. i wanted to die. i drank so i can sleep. i hate alchoal but love the effects. i was hoping my heart would go out and i would suffer from a heart attack. i was born with pilminary attresia. 5 open hear surgeys throughout my life. i never once thought of driving and trying to crash if i was to die it would be all alone and not put others at risk for my self nesses act

[@jacobs4545]

Thats exactly what he wouldve said before sitting down in the pilot's seat that day. Im watching you

[@charliecostella]

The medication he was on was probably the cause for the way he thought. Nobody talks about it because they have Deep Pockets

[@Bethlam]

This makes me sick. I have severe depression but NEVER would I put anyone’s life in danger other than my own. Those poor people and their families left devastated all because of one selfish individual.

[@MeganVictoriaKearns]

I've dealt with severe depression for 20 years. I've thought of ending my life hundreds of times. I've even tried to. 4 times. Not ONCE has it ever occurred to me to take anyone out with me. That is mass murder, what that sorry excuse for a human being did. Evil beyond words. I simply cannot wrap my mind around how anyone could be such a monster.

[@Bethlam]

@@MeganVictoriaKearns I hear you. I hope you are dealing well with your depression. I know it’s always a battle. There are good days, there are bad days and sometimes there are bad months or even years but I hope you are managing to survive it. I’ve found when I’m at my lowest I try to make someone (usually strangers because I always try to raise up my family and friends) have a good day. If I can’t be happy at least I can make someone else have a better day. Best wishes to you and stay strong those inner demons can bite pretty hard. 😁

[@nathanchristopher2677]

i agree

[@semoneg2826]

Depression is a very dangerous sickness that affect the minds of people differently

[@axethepenguin]

@@Bethlam just remember, if you’re ever feeling useless, that people like this selfish guy exist

[@___mister.dior__________]

My friend and his mom was on that plane… I was so devastated to hear this news I couldn’t stop crying… Australian mother and son Craig and his mom! ❤️ I miss him 😢

[@texastea5686]

🥺

[@evapektas3832]

I am so sorry for your loss

[@IAM_THESOURCE]

Bullshit

[@lilxsweet]

Aww gosh 💔

[@jeonghanism]

im so so sorry for your loss :(

[@kavi212]

I’m a flight attendant, and the thought of this is just terrifying. I have no words. My hearts go out to the families of victims

[@bipbopcherryontop6256]

I heard whenever faults or crashes happen, it gets added to staff training to learn what to do next time. Did they do that with this?

[@g0dfree291]

@@bipbopcherryontop6256 I'm a pilot and yeah they did. The regular heath assessment is added with thorough mental assessment as well. Now its even strict if someone has a record of depression. Its so strict that if some employee reports that some pilot was talking like he was depressed is enough to put up a case and get him checked.

[@edwhatshisname3562]

You have more than one heart?

[@FinerStuff]

I'm terrified of flying. So, respect!

[@kyrohowe3156]

Giving prayers for the families as well 🙏

[@GIChiyo]

Incredibly selfish to take all those innocent lives with him Even at my lowest depression I never thought to take anyone else with me An awful story overall, how depressing...

[@crossfoot4612]

He had other chances and took innocent lives. F this guy!

[@christinesch7309]

I just don’t understand how someone suicidal is also murderous, serial killer murderous😢

[@Palach624]

I know right? Some people always try to sugar coat terrible acts like this and mass shootings by saying the perpetrator had depression or was abused in one way or another. That doesn't justify it one tiny bit, even at my lowest hurting anybody was out of consideration.

[@exchangediary968]

@Bang me Chan German thing? do i need to tell you how many depressed Americans decided to shoot up schools, malls, houses , before taken their own life? at least Germany airports decided to improve mental care and health systems for pilots while the USA refuses to put money into that

[@elainevankat5353]

@@crossfoot4612 Exactly! well said.👏

[@hannahbeanies8855]

I have severe depression. I’m a survivor of an “un aliving” attempt. Even in my darkest hours, I never considered an option that would harm or even kill others. One thing that keeps me going today is that I don’t want to cause any unintentional mental harm (for those who find me, who may inadvertently witness me carry it out, etc). I can’t begin to fathom the state of mind this man was in. It’s…something different entirely

[@texastea5686]

I hope you are getting mental health care ❤

[@hannahbeanies8855]

@@texastea5686 I am. No worries about that!

[@Cammasia]

Exactly. I've dealt with depressive episodes for half my life. Back before therapy/medication, when I felt the need to "un-alive" myself, I would even think of ways of lessening the impact on whoever would stumble upon my remains, like leaving a note on the door or setting up a timed text to send to a friend asking them to call the police to my apartment. And good to hear you're better now!

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

Are you really that scared about using the term suicide? There aren't ads being displayed on comments. The keyword bots only rarely delete comments when you use triggerwords one or two times.

[@hannahbeanies8855]

@@chrisakaschulbus4903thanks for your thoughtful and engaging comment, Chris

[@UncleRicosCamper]

I remember when this happened and it made me so upset that so many innocent souls were taken for no reason. He will never be remembered for anything other than being a coward and a murderer.

[@semoneg2826]

Its easy for us to hate until we understand what does to people... Especially severe depression

[@Sebastian-fy3hu]

@@semoneg2826 regardless if someone has depression or not. unless it's psychosis, they made the conscious decision to take 149 other lives who had nothing to do with him or his bullshit he decided he didn't want to properly take care of. Severe depression is not an excuse nor a defense, it is not insanity, you can't blame depression for when you slit someone's throat. Why do you allow mass murder to be "oh he was just a sad boy that no one understood"? He didn't physically kill them by hand but he still made the decision to live or die for them which is murder no matter how you try to spin it. He was no in psychosis and he was definitely not acting in self-defense.

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

@@Sebastian-fy3hu Semone G...didn't excuse his mental health dummy. He said her can empathize just like I can because I have depression and take medication too. He can empathize like myself because Lubitz was a human being too. Doesn't excuse anything he did. He still murdered 149 people with no remorse. As a human being you should too for the amount of mental anguish he went through. That's what being a decent human being is. Get it right!

[@familyandfriends3519]

Just like all Germansss especially after WW2

[@matty6848]

@@semoneg2826 depression or not there’s absolutely no excuse for taking a 149 innocent souls down with you. What he did was pure evil and cowardly. He could of easily killed himself if he wanted too, but no he decided too take all those poor people with him.

[@raythornton8578]

I suffer from ptsd. Depression, and a severe anxiety disorder. But I couldn’t imagine being so selfish and callous as to kill those people just because I didn’t want to live anymore. If you want to die don’t take innocent people with you. Even with depression you know what you are doing.

[@Bones.x]

Exactly, taking people with him was a choice.

[@rodeo9837]

Right?? I’m mentally ill and live with sui-cidal ideation, when I’m spiralling I just want to end myself because I don’t feel worthy. I don’t want to hurt others at all

[@rianamohamed300]

I hope u find peace and purpose soon. 💚💛💙

[@pamelacox4103]

@@Bones.x made him a murderer

[@MrJustwatchandlearn]

Yeah borderline evil, I’ve been severely depressed had suicidal thoughts but getting back to normal(been long process). Not once during those thoughts did I think taking anyone else with me. No matter how down you get, I feel lyk if your depressed but even just have a ounce of good in you you understand that you want to take YOUR life, no one else’s.

[@13ritneyanne]

He lost my sympathy when he committed suicide and took 150 innocent souls down with him. That's another level of evil. RIP to everyone who lost their lives to this heartless monster.

[@elainevankat5353]

Absolutely agree! He just wanted to murder people! (probably wasn’t even depressed) Just an evil a*s hole!

[@thebigdog2295]

You're right it's definitely another level of evil. And looking at what's happening in the world evil is winning the war.

[@ChevereJones]

Sadly you just don’t think straight when severely depressed. Not that it excuses his behavior

[@TheIdiotChihuahua]

@@ChevereJones even someone like that can see that taking 150 people down with them is a disgusting thing to do

[@awkwardautistic]

"Up to now, everyone believes the theory of a co-pilot who was depressed for a long time, who deliberately crashed his plane into a mountain in a planned act. We are convinced this is false," the father said in a press release.

[@rosemarie5489]

The day that this happened, I was travelling by plane from Berlin to Thessaloniki to visit my cousin and her newborn baby by Lufthansa. I imagined that day how happy I was to go back to meet my whole family and the new baby and how much I loved life. And how all the people, who were travelling that day also had a lot of plans and dreams and desire to live. All their lives cut short just because Andreas was an evil man. He could have died alone, if he was so depressed. No need to destroy 149 families...

[@OreoSkor]

This case happened when I was a junior in highschool. My best friend was supposed to be on this flight when she was travelling back from Greece for a school trip. I’m forever blessed to still have her to this day

[@sersastark]

"You can manage. You won't die without me." I can't even IMAGINE how that wife is processing her grief and guilt!!!

[@leahvogelsimpson]

The survivors guilt and just guilt in general must be excruciating. Those poor people.

[@MrJustwatchandlearn]

Watched this whole thing feeling sad but not crying at all, but then got to that bit don’t know why considering how tragic the whole story is but even a shed tear just thinking of what his wife must of felt lyk once she got the news 😢

[@mrs_maverick1121]

I too know what that pain feels like… While it wasn’t my spouse, it was a friend of mine, I saw him last alive on a Monday night, he had been racing down the hill in front of the truck I was riding in… He was 16, I 17… I told him that night he needed to slow down, my last words to him were “You’re gonna kill yourself one day” he looked at me and smiled his big bright smile and said “Nah, I’ll be alright” and left… less than 48hrs later I pulled up to an accident on the same road, that happened less than 10 seconds before I got there… He had been racing up that hill, crossed the center median, and hit another truck head on… I didn’t know at the time, but he was killed on impact….. It has been 19.5 years and I still remember that day like it was yesterday… Such a young life lost, and my last words to him predicting his fate forever haunt me….. 😢

[@mysteryinquest]

@@mrs_maverick1121 That is so sad, he seems like a fun person, I'm sorry for your loss 💖

[@claudiasteinwald8952]

@@mrs_maverick1121 Your memories are painfull. But, possibly you have saved other young lives. By encouraging others to take precautions, by your own actions and encouragements and warnings. His memory lives in you and you have helped others. Take care and God bless, dear lady.

[@masolie]

I'm from Germany and still remember the day it happened. Truly shocking. I felt especially bad for the class from Haltern as the 16 students were only 3 years older than me at the time. It's a terrible tragedy that should have never happened...

[@McCammalot]

Oh my God. Oh that's awful. I'm so sorry

[@SB-zg5ch]

@@McCammalot What are you sorry for? This random guy hearing this on the news? lol

[@oldbat2ccats]

@S.B. Does that stand for son of a bitch ? Go troll somewhere else cretin.

[@heatherbowlan1961]

@@SB-zg5ch your very rude !you can’t understand someone feels , I feel bad for you !get help !

[@FeuerblutRM]

I saw in a documentary that the school turned their class room into a memorial room. Initially for a couple of weeks but I think they still have it because nobody could bring themselves to dispose of all the memorial stuff to reuse the room again. Very sad.

[@Tobi-ln9xr]

I can still remember the day when it had happened. I got a very bad mark in my maths test but after I heard that a plane went down in France without any survivors, I realized how small our daily problems are. Rest In Peace.

[@dmac4793]

The airline sayin the passengers felt no big anxiety is just ridiculous ...the Head Pilot was smashing with all his might with metal objects and crow bar the cockpit door tryin to gain access...yeah im sure that was a walk in the park for the victims...God rest their souls

[@synthesizedjunk]

Hearing about the victims' lives was really hard. So many people with so much to look forward to and be happy about. I understand depression, but it was an incredibly selfish decision to take a staggering number of lives along with him. Mental illness is never your fault, but it is your responsibility. There were so many opportunities for Andreas to get the help he needed.

[@17thknight]

To hell with his depression. This evil monster murdered entire families, dozens of children, even a baby. He was a monster and should be remembered as such

[@trafficcontrol2420]

I love that. "Mental illness is not your fault but it is your responsibility.'

[@belladonnahigh9206]

I also never thought of taking anyone with me, but I understand his motivations. I mean, you are going to die anyway, you don't care about the world or others, and you couldn't give a damn how they will remember you. I blame the doctors and the system, that enabled him to go on a shopping spree for meds. Not one of those dozens of doctors were able to help him, and I know how that must feel, bc I myself have been ill for more than 19 years now and nothing's changing, as no one believes me that this is a skin problem, not a psychological one. But no, no one believes me and think I'm crazy, they just said I suffer from body dismorphic disorder and that's it, categorized as one, always one. He was selfish, but people with depression are usually selfish, most of the time not on purpose, it's the mental illness that makes them focus on themselves too much. That's why he really didn't care about anyone else, he wanted to die, he accomplished that. The thing is, people like us don't care how we will be remembered, neither did he. Crashing a plane with people or without, what's the difference? That's how most of the depressed think, but they won't tell you. He took the least painful option to die, and that's what mattered to him. I myself would also choose the least painful death available to me, with people or not, I'll be gone anyway. Since I don't feel suicidal most of the time, rather depressed, I have developed deep sympathy for other people, yet also deep hatred for them as well. Weird, isn't it? I'm just so tired of my illness... One day I feel deep sympathy for someone in a video, next time I wish more people died. I wasn't like that just a few years ago. The toxicity that is the social media taught me that.

[@jakejonathan4249]

He is a terrorist, he commited an act of great terror. whether he is sick or not is irrelevant, im sure the 'bearded men' that flew into the twin towers weren't in their top notch mental health either.

[@happypill6195]

i don t belive in god but sometimes i hope hell exists just for people like him

[@R.Iamondi]

Evil man, and a coward, he just didn’t want to die alone. I can’t imagine the horror those people went through.

[@codybarry8204]

Disgusting. Take himself out....like he knew in the beginning. Coward.

[@jarigustafsson7620]

I fight to call him evil, he knew he was sick, he went to doctors, psychiactrics, repeatedly, plenty if opportunity to ground him. It had been better for him to end his life alone then in a passenger plane. He had tried it before but did not go thru it, so if he had opportunity before why didn't he do it then? His mind was probably going all over the place.

[@charlottealfresco4517]

Yes true

[@valuetraveler2026]

sick man sick family, complacent cowardly airline

[@Shmandalf]

Just listening to the captain yelling and screaming to open up for 10 minutes straight, trying to break in... Like, there was no snapping out of it for him and its just chilling to think about.

[@KevinDFuller94]

149 innocent souls taken at the hands of an evil, wicked, cowardly person. Such a tragedy this was. Rest in peace to the victims 🙏🏿🕊

[@hannaberlin4004]

I'm German and I remember the news vividly when the plane crashed. It was a huge shock, me and my mom cried while hearing the news. After it was confirmed that the Co-Pilot crashed on purpose, we all were in total disbelief. How can this happen? Why did it happen? I went on a class trip to Barcelona a few years after this incident and all of us just could think about this horrible thing. To this day this case makes me tear up. I wish the family and friends of the victims only the best and may the victims rest in peace

[@strangetimez]

My partner is a pilot and we've talked about this case many times,he actually decided to take mental health courses so he can help male employees (which he said are usually hiding/supressing their mental health problems and that has been quite the issue) and others in need on the aeroplane. Mental health should never be a taboo! Hopefully something like this will never reoccur again,it's terrifying to think about their last moments 😕 unsettling and gutwrenching.

[@mahoganylove5757]

Hope more pilots have the same idea as your partner. It's important to recognize the signs and know how to help.

[@strangetimez]

@@mahoganylove5757 me too,mental health is crucial and there should be mental health courses for such high-stress involved jobs for free cause casualties are way too high when you neglect these issues and this is living proof.

[@Fireglo]

Kay no one cares.

[@strangetimez]

@@Fireglo Oh?I beg to differ,also you might consider some basic courses on how to behave ✌

[@Fireglo]

@@strangetimez says the narcissist that tried to make it about you.

[@Mohohoh]

I knew a boy who died in this crash. I played hide and seek with him 2 days before. He and his mother were on the plane. His father staying in Austria. He is now without a son and wife. This boy was very kind and heart-warming. It's still difficult to deal with the idea that life can end so quickly.

[@rixavie]

I'm so sorry

[@seansezz]

There was a mother and son from Australia he was 29

[@elishh8173]

God how horrible. I'm so so sorry. I dont think I can sleep tonight after seeing this.

[@EmiFromMars]

That is so sad :( cant imagine what the father goes through on the daily...

[@slyonerz]

Egg whites are getting all aggressive like chill

[@aureliahammerlock6997]

There were 16 foreign exchange students, "they were supposed to be the lucky ones". Life's just.. so unfair. We're really at the mercy of everyone around us.

[@ladymallowyt]

It's horrible how justice cannot be served as the killer died. Just thinking about how helpless those passengers must have felt in their last few minutes will always make me shiver

[@WynneL]

As someone who's struggled with a whole host of mental health issues, I still find no sympathy for Lubitz. Most of us who struggled with whether to live in this world couldn't even do it, out of knowing the pain it would cause others. Only a monster could not only cause that pain to all their own loved ones, but also take so many others away from their respective families as well, giving them an unimaginably terrifying death. The amount of pain he caused is just an unfathomable evil. Then there's the madness of allowing someone like that to have a flight career in the first place. The system failed so shockingly.

[@tobbias28]

I agree to a certain degree. What he did was beyond evil & unforgivable. To blame the employers is unreasonable. He didn’t have these mental health issues from the get go. As time went on he began to get severe symptoms, and he even got better & stayed that way for YEARS. The only time the employers were in the wrong was when they allowed him to pull out the records that he had depression. They should’ve made sure by making it mandatory he see a psychiatrist. Everyone is capable of getting depressed at any and every age. Even I got diagnosed with severe depression/anxiety & I never ever would’ve imagined that. To say someone with depression shouldn’t be employed is a bit insensitive (in my opinion)

[@steveperreira5850]

Indeed, The system failed to completely…. Especially Lufthansa, as for them, there is nothing I can do for that race of Nazi bastards…. But do the rest of us need to suffer on account of their insanity? Never ever ever shit someone that has any kind of self-destructive or outwardly destructive mental health problems be allowed to become someone with whom the lives of many are entrusted. I don’t trust airlines, because they continue to allow idiot pilots To fly airplanes, and we have a long history of suicidal and maniacal pilots killing everyone. I’m a pilot myself. So I’m not picking on anyone out of some kind of Envy or something… But I’m also an engineer. I know a lot about what automated systems can do, and flying an airplane to simple!! Automation for aircraft has been fully available for more than half a century, closing in on 3/4 of a century there is no reason ever have a pilot flying commercial aircraft ever again. And then there is the medical system. What a goddamn disaster! An airline pilot medical records should be publicly available, not kept secret, and just because our lives depend on their physical and mental well-being. I’m not gonna fly as a passenger with a pilot who has a history of mental illness and suicidal thoughts. And no one else would either. We need daylight shined onto the condition of individuals that have high responsibility for the life of others. But mainly what we need is to get them out of those positions completely. Computers don’t have depression! And if you know anything about computers and control system it is highly unlikely that computer can be evil-handed programmed for malfeasance. This is because the systems that are used both hardware and software do not allow one program to completely take over. In other words there are what are called watchdog computers” as well as other redundancies and precautions

[@potocatepetl]

@@tobbias28 There are jobs that people with severe depression should never do. And this is one of them. When someone is directly responsible for someone else's life, they should be healthy and stable and the employer should make sure this is the case. Otherwise the employer is equally as guilty.

[@potocatepetl]

@@lucabaki You might want to seek help. That is NOT normal and is not the first instinct for many people. It is not necessary surprising Mike Tyson felt like that, he was by nature inclined towards aggression even before the death of his daughter.

[@powpowouchy5]

@@lucabaki bro what. I’d see someone about that. Most people aren’t emotionally unstable enough to feel a desire to hurt others just because they’re hurting themselves, especially to that degree. Do you really think that Mike Tyson, the guy who took routine hits to the head most of his life and as a result suffered from traumatic brain injury, is the best example to bring up when discussing typical rational thought? If you are having these thoughts, please seek help. It is not normal.

[@michaelslater5669]

R.I.P to all the passengers I cannot even think how those poor passengers felt:( my thoughts and feelings go out to all the families involved 😢💔

[@rigid2093]

Im a pilot my self, and struggle to understand how he rationalized taking so many lives in the process of taking his own. He could've just nose dived a cessna 172 with just him in it if he really wanted to die that badly.

[@Mangolite]

This is horrendous. I was warming up to those who are suicidal due to mental and stress issues, but when you selfishly take another life with you, then I have no sympathy for you. I understand that you struggle but don’t bring another life into your troubles.

[@samfucyu6196]

Warming up to those who are suicidal ? What do you even mean by that ? Sounds like you felt no empathy for them and now only start to ? If that is the case, you're a terrible human being. But I do agree that you should never take another life. Even if you take yours.

[@Mangolite]

@@samfucyu6196 I didn’t make myself clear. I know someone who drilled into me that by a particular time in their life, they would instead end it all because they don’t want to see themself getting old. No matter what I said, their mind had been made up. I also experienced loved ones suffering from health issues before they died. I no longer judge someone for their decision. However, I will not allow someone to take another person’s life with them. If the person wants to do it to themselves, that is their choice, but when they include another person by force, that is no longer their decision.

[@samfucyu6196]

@@Mangolite Just wanted to make sure !! Thank you for the explanation, lots of people on the internet have terrible opinions about mental health and others. Stay safe and remember ; someone else's mental health is not your responsibility. Have a good night/day and take care of yourself, stranger ! ❤️

[@tootsd]

I have dealt with depression for many years. It continues to be a problem every day for me. I totally understand the thought to hurt oneself but the thought of hurting others is impossible for me to understand. RIP to all of the innocent people on the plane.

[@Jenpaii_]

THIS. I'm currently medicated for both my ADHD and major depressive disorder and genuinely can't believe someone would do something so selfish. I fully understand having to fight yourself to stay alive, and I fully understand setting your mind on ending it. Hell, my ADHD even adds to the challenge because I have a hard time controlling my impulsive urges. But never in my whole damn life have I considered taking others with me. Not even as witnesses. Idk if it's the meds who fucked him up or not, but there was definitely more going on than him just being depressed and suicidal for him to do something like this. Such a sad story...

[@mommytrapjackerina442]

@@Jenpaii_ I deal with the same, so I heavily feel for you. I take medication for both my ADHD and depression as you do. I imagine it may have been a mix of the drugs, along with the depression, that made it become as severe as it was for him. Especially drugs that effect mental states, mixing them together can cause VERY bad side effects, and may have been a big part of why he did this.

[@Jenpaii_]

@@mommytrapjackerina442 yeah! The only logic I can see is that the meds either were too high/low or recently changed- or he combined ones that shouldn't be combined. I know for sure I get a bit extra "crazy" when I'm upping or lowering my dosages, but this guy's on a whole different level. It must've been a psychosis moment for irrational thoughts like that? I can't remember if that was mentioned in the video or not haha. Either way it's sad as hell

[@mommytrapjackerina442]

@@Jenpaii_ Mourning the loss of so many innocent lives is the best we can do. I just hope the families were able to find some peace.

[@grabbagconversations2802]

I hope you all keep on living. I’m proud of you all just to talk about it. My heart is with you all. I used to work on an ambulance. Please stay on your medications.

[@prozachoe1521]

I'm from Berlin, I remember this case vividly .. it still turns my stomach and heart. Everyone I know had the same thoughts, how selfish of him to choose to go out with all these innocent lives at his hands and how poorly the spokesperson handled it. Germany was in disbelief and shock.

[@elishh8173]

It's horrible. I'm from sweden and I remember it too. I lived in Eastern Europe and I had to fly alot. Every time I cried and prayed. I was so scared that this would happen again. God I feel so so sorry for the victims. This is so evil. He should have killed himself alone!!

[@slyonerz]

Thatch the rub me sack wack fight against him to a duel between worlds in my zeppelin for the first time to the point of view of the world hold same feet excellent

[@Ze_Moose]

Since you're from Germany, my condolences. I was wondering if the media labeled him as a terrorist?🤔 Just curious.

[@maggiesfarm7970]

​@@slyonerz ????

[@Olinkush]

I am from Poland, I flew Germanwings so often... I remember the case was hugely covered. the huge tragedy for so many innocent lives 😢

[@Leyhunter]

PLEASE Keep doing the bloopers at the end with the meme edits, they're so fantastic. I'd watch a whole video of just that.

[@zeph4799]

I remember this so well, I was in 10th grade when it happened. I couldn’t sleep for weeks, spend the whole night crying when I thought of their last moments. RIP Lea drüppel, Linda Bergjürgen, Ann Christin Hahn, Paula Lütkenhaus, Lea Schukart, Stefanie Tegethoff, Elena Bleß, selina ellis, Julia Hermann, Fabio Rogge, Helena Siebe, Aline Venhoff, Sonja cercek, Gina Michelle Gerdes, Marleen Koch, Rabea Scheideler, Steffen Strang, Caja Westermann. Gone too soon and never forgotten. Ihr werdet vermisst.

[@limario1920]

"you can manage, you won't die without me" gave me shivers. i can't express how much that saddened me.

[@waifunekofiaa3322]

Yeah that made me tear up a bit idk why probably cause she didn’t know that he was gonna die and was gonna come back home safely

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

That's why you don't make promises that you can't keep. Or at least i do.

[@waifunekofiaa3322]

@@chrisakaschulbus4903 I don’t really do promises much and plus some promises are impossible to keep cause you don’t know when you are gonna die and can die anytime so some people make that promise not knowing what’s gonna happen to them.

[@meaganireland9252]

I have never understood why I am so drawn to true crime even though it always leaves me with a hole in my heart for those who lost their loved ones. I really enjoy how respectful you are while covering such hard cases. Great content. Thank you!

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you!

[@leoandersson6461]

That hole in your heart is perhaps a thrill even though it doesn't feel good, a form of masochism.

[@seyma-qj4jr]

@@leoandersson6461 i don’t agree. the hole in the heart indicates empathism.

[@bobbeezel2593]

Me too

[@strangetimez]

@@leoandersson6461 or maybe she's just intrigued with psychological aspect,your view is quite a dark one

[@nasuharoslan]

Thank you for telling us the story of the victims. I cried so much when you described who they were.. the students, the opera singer, the preganant lady, the newlyweds. I haven't cried so much for a long time. Bless them... thank you for mentioning them.

[@KONTHEDON4]

It’s sad that some people always have to be sacrificed so we can learn how to do things better.

[@stephs8785]

This is a case close to my heart seeing it is the aircraft I was trained on and having suffered with depression and suicidal thoughts myself too. During the time of this case, I was cabin crew on an Airbus A320, whilst I was based in the UK and nowhere near Germany, a lot changed overnight in the airline industry worldwide following this. In our airline (having served the same airline for 13 years I am unable to comment on other airlines) no pilot was allowed to be alone in the flight deck and at least 2 people had to be in there at any time, 1 pilot and 1 crew member at the very least. We would often discuss it during pre-flight briefings, and would always be in the back of our minds. Only a couple of years later I suffered from severe chronic postnatal depression and suicidal thoughts, I was immediately grounded following me telling my manager I'd tried to take my own life.. I was in the progress of getting better, but wasn't allowed back until I'd been seen by a counselor, for which there is a very long waiting list in the UK 😔 the company unfortunately went into administration and I never flew again.. I would never be able to harm others whilst taking my own life, but completely understood why they wouldn't let me fly whilst under the DRs for my depression... It is extremely selfish and sad what he did. 😔😔😔

[@technohellscape]

Having my own decades-long history of struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts, never once have I ever considered taking anyone else with me. I cannot even fathom the mindset that could make someone want to inflict horror and grief on so many innocent people and families. There was much more wrong with this individual than "just" being suicidal.

[@akmaljonqosimzoda8909]

He is selfish, evil, coward monster who wanted 149 innocent people to die with him so that he doesn't die alone.

[@primesspct2]

Yes much much more.

[@lyndajaeger4477]

Same. I drive and my intrusive thoughts of veering over the line get stopped right away. I wouldn't want to hurt someone else. That has saved me many times. The fact I don't want anyone to suffer. Or to be traumatized.

[@Lilyibanez]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@nataschakeil9452]

This was what I thought too. I don't want to imagine what he went through, having suicidal thoughts on top of that, but killing innocent people on purpose along the way makes my blood boile. Same with people on a road rage or similar. Even throwing yourself infront of a train affects a lot of other innocent bystanders. Damn.

[@letitbesummer6536]

This story was shocking when we found out he was suicidal & homicidal. Just such unnecessary tragedy

[@sabinabirnie3761]

I remember flying with Lufthansa two weeks after this tragedy and being so nervous but the cabin crew were wonderful, and there were so many of them on my flight. I’ve never seen so many on one flight before or since.

[@gizmo3846]

People always mentions suicidal people being in good spirits as a reason for why suicide was a surprise, but its actually seen as a redflag among mental health professionals, suddenly being upbeat and seemingly quick uplifting of mood can often be down to am individual finally resigning themselves to the the decision to end their life, and experiencing alleviation in the their distress as a result. If you have a suicidal loved one and they suddenly seem "better" over night, don't assume they are safe, mental health conditions don't go away over night.

[@slimwalk708]

This is very true.

[@matty6848]

Yes that’s very true. They have accepted their fate and almost look forward to their death….

[@SJ-007]

Oh no, this was so very sad. I read a report that one girl nearly missed her flight completely, because she lost her passport, but it was found so the family she was staying with got her to the airport in time 😥

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Yes, I believe she was one of the German school exchange students... tragic.

[@julieoluna8887]

@@CoffeehouseCrime Please cut the music on the background.

[@TheQueenOfSheba]

@@julieoluna8887 no. The music is nice and adds to it.

[@julieoluna8887]

@@TheQueenOfSheba I find it unnecessary, distracting and he is speaking faster as if to keep up with the music.

[@KristenDETW]

@@julieoluna8887 No one else is having a problem...

[@MougliX]

I remember this incident as if it was yesterday. What really made me go full panic mode was the fact that my flight from Barcelona back to Germany was the day before and my whole class was on board. We were joking about our plane crashing all the way back. When I watched the news the next day I just cried. I felt so bad for all the people who were struck by this disaster and I couldn‘t stop thinking that it could have been us if we had chosen to stay one more day.

[@37kit]

I read somewhere that when a suicidal person appears at peace all of a sudden, that’s actually red flag bcs it might mean they’ve already decided to go thru with it and is just sorting things out before they did it

[@MiriAnalphabet]

This case made me so mad, most people in germany where grieving when it happened, because no one could grasp what this dude did.. :(

[@sisseholm4869]

@@firstnamelastname9215 oh wow you're so funny

[@NicNakBraun]

Mental illness knows no bounds.

[@NelCapeTown]

What is really disappointing is the attitude of Lufthansa and German Wings. It is a sad indictment of the large number of big business executives who have zero empathy. Makes one understand how it can be said that most psychopaths are not serial killers, but successful CEOs instead.

[@markianclark9645]

Max....I watched a documentary on BBC TV where they investigated Lubitz background..his hometown in your Deutschland..they interviewed some townspeople and the same response from all was shock disbelief and horror..and one said no-one smiles anymore here this town will forever be associated with that crash..

[@jasonmims5057]

As I've gotten older these are the things Im scared of when on a plane. Even though mental health is being taken more seriously, you just never know what the workers of an airline are thinking.

[@amyosullivan8629]

as someone who has suffered with severe depression and anxiety and spent some time in a pysch ward due to this- I'm horrified. While I did meet one person in there who pushed and scratched people, as well as stealing items from people to harm herself with, this is just about as close as I've ever come to someone hurting anyone else in order to harm themselves and I'm absolutely horrified of this story. The fact that someone would harm anyone else in order to harm themselves is disturbing to me, nevermind the fact that someone took the lives of 149 others. its absolutely sick and twisted. Please, don't sympathise with that monsters mental health issues. As someone who has been suicidal I absolutely assure you that this is no excuse, the thought of hurting anyone else should NEVER cross your mind, no matter how suicidal you are.

[@astardustparade]

Omg I can’t imagine what those passengers were feeling knowing there was no way out of their situation. It gives me anxiety thinking about it. RIP to all of the innocent lives lost on that plane that day 😢

[@loulou_nh]

As a flight attendant I would say this incident scared the hell out of me and it’s because of this now if one of the flight crew needs a toilet break one of flight attendant needs to go inside the cockpit I’m so sorry for the loss of innocent people RIP thank you so much for covering this case ❤

[@spikefivefivefive]

It makes sense. A pilot should never be alone in the cockpit. Isn't there some sort of a masterkey that could open the door from the outside?

[@georgielancaster1356]

But what could you do, if you realised things were odd? I guess you could call all crew members to the cabin... but then what? A wrestle to get him off controls? Could they do snything to doom the flight before being overcome? What a nightmare! I just can't believe such an evil act.

[@VincoVenator]

@@spikefivefivefive that's partly what the override code is for, except to avoid terrorists being able to get it out of one of the crew and force their way into the cockpit the pilot can override it...which is exactly what he did

[@VincoVenator]

It's a really difficult problem to have to account for, there is almost no measure you can put in place which couldn't be circumvented in some way, having a crew member step in is a reasonable attempt but still flawed

[@carolyncouch4094]

As if a woman flight attendant could stop an average sized man from knocking her out and locking that door and the same thing happening. They need a master key to get into that door.

[@flightpathproductions5579]

As a dispatcher at Heathrow for this airline I remember this as a very sad day and very difficult time for operations. Will never forget the crew especially capt Patrick who was a pleasure to work with RIP to all.

[@jasonvoorhees5640]

proof?

[@axethepenguin]

@@jasonvoorhees5640 what proof is he gonna give you, do you expect him to kidnap you and take you to London?

[@jasonvoorhees5640]

@@axethepenguin STRAWMAN

[@nicka.9057]

@@jasonvoorhees5640 I prefer the Jason that doesn't talk

[@nicka.9057]

@@jasonvoorhees5640 funny coming from the guy that named himself after a character that's entire trauma revolves around his mother

[@shadowknows5750]

When my Dad became a flight instructor his 1st student committed suicide crashing into the ground deliberately. It took him some time before he went back to work.

[@maggiegarber246]

I have watched the TV series Air Disasters. This wasn’t the only time that a pilot committed suicide with his plane full of passengers. It is so sad. I can’t imagine the terror of the last minutes for the passengers.

[@whitedragoness23]

Was he depressed too? What happened to cause the guy to do such a cruel thing to people he didn’t know?

[@gabiesanchez8943]

@@whitedragoness23 He was in debt distress, and hoped his family could benefit from the life insurance policy he had taken. But it was not paid out.

[@whitedragoness23]

@@gabiesanchez8943 which case are you talking about? I was asking the OP about the other case. Either way I wouldn’t grant a cash out based on mass murder. If your talking the 9525 plane tragedy then I don’t get why he was in so much debt. I’m sure he could of gotten out of debt by reducing spending. And cutting back a lot, and that’s assuming he was still working.

[@hughmasson2200]

@@whitedragoness23 I can think of a few. Egypt Air 909 (pilot was about to get fired), Silk Air 185 (pilot was in debt, been demoted) and, of course, MH370 (pilot was in debt, wife and mistress left him). There was also a security guard who smuggled a gun on a plane, killed the pilots and nosedived into the ground. He was about to be fired, too.

[@whitedragoness23]

@@hughmasson2200 they are still selfish murderers!!!

[@santefeaster460]

I cried when you said "You won't die without me." What pain there families must feel. Not even a body to touch or see one last time. The selfishness is infuriating.

[@constanceleah118]

I'm already careful what I say, most of the time... Now that's going to mess with me 😢

[@esteemedmortal5917]

This is so profoundly upsetting. They must have felt despair, anger, horror, sadness, fear, and confusion. They were effectively being punished by one man because he didn’t have the happiness and life he felt he deserved. How can you safeguard yourself against something so twisted and deranged?

[@m.y.o.b.724]

Not unlike 9/11 where the passengers must've gone through the same emotions. Different motive, same outcome.

[@cristianm7097]

By smashing the heads of the depressed. Better safe than sorry.

[@codybarry8204]

@@cristianm7097 tighten up hiring checks on things like pilots...

[@MusMasi]

@@cristianm7097 a large percentage of the population experiences depression at some stage of their life, the vast majority do not even think of becoming murderous

[@bastianogr4960]

Being German, I remember this unbelievably tragic incident very well. Naturally I've seen tons of news coverage and documentaries about it. However, your video is clearly among the best summaries (if not *the* best), since-besides structuring the plethora of information flawlessly and easy to digest-you're really focussing on the human side of the story. Not only Andreas' background, but also other people's involved. For instance, I've never learned anything about the actual pilot before. I have to admit, it was a punch to the gut looking at this young dad's extraordinarily likeable picture. On the other hand, I've always wondered who this man was, who tried everything in his power to save the situation. Andreas tricked him out of being able to fulfil his responsibilities as the captain. I can't imagine how he must have felt during the last minutes before his death. It still makes my stomach turn. Thank you for honouring him. Also, I really appreciate you taking some time to talk about mental illness. Being just a couple of years older, I can relate to a lot of what Andreas apparently went through. Having loving parents, but still being crushed by the pressure to perform, is harder than it seems at first glance. Germany's middle and upper class parents of that particular generation, who thrived greatly during the 70s and 80s, building incredible things-sometimes even without a whole lot of education-are extremely intimidating and seem impossible to live up to. Not unlike in Japanese culture, we still have remnants of that strict emphasis on discipline, achievement, and self-sacrifice from our Prussian ancestors. At least in my parent's generation and their way of raising us, this was still very present. It's a perfect hotbed for anxiety and self-doubt. Especially when your parents aren't tyrannic a-holes, since that leaves only yourself to hate and question constantly. Another thing I wasn't aware of, is, how much medication Andreas actually received and that he was on the verge to psychosis. Without wanting to relieve him of any responsibility, I still think there's a lot to fix in the German health system in general, and in the knowledge about mental illness in particular. There are too many gaping holes there, and I don't think we know the least bit about what psychotropics actually do to the human brain. Or worse: we don't care. In fact, I knew two people who took their lives after being treated heavily with medication (in really horrific ways, I might add). Both went from depression and anxiety to full-on schizophrenia and psychosis in a very short period of time. And once you're there, you just don't have control over your actions anymore. It's absolutely gut-wrenching. Medical professionals need to be a lot more careful with these things, and there has to be some kind of information network, so that patients (like Andreas) can't just visit X different doctors and get X different prescriptions, no questions asked. Unfortunately, Germany is so sensitive when it comes to data protection, that other essential topics (such as patient information) are always treated secondary. Lots to say about this case and your outstanding coverage, but I leave it at that. Thanks so much for your admirable work. You're helping to understand cases like this a lot better. "It is impossible to pay adequate tribute to the innocent lives lost that day." You did it nonetheless.

[@sharonmcneil3545]

This was horrifying! I can't imagine being on that plane and watching the mountains come closer and closer. So incredibly sad.

[@familyandfriends3519]

Good riddance 😂😂😂

[@daerdon]

The father of one of the victims was my teaching instructor. I always asked myself how anybody could be as chill as him. Then I learned - he already went through hell. What else could life throw at him?

[@texastea5686]

🥺🥺🥺

[@stevescott3735]

Damn, that hit me

[@sarahblum2506]

I'm from Germany too and remember the date as it was yesterday.. the shock and horror, despite not knowing anyone aboard the plane. 2 years later I flew to Spain myself for a month and the route was almost the same, although the destination was Malaga, not Barcelona, but I could not stop thinking about that plane... the German channel WDR put up 2 documentaries about the families of the deceased and how they are today. I can really recommend them. And my heart goes out to them. ♡♡ I cannot comprehend why Lubitz was that... selfish and decided to take everyone on that plane with him, despite having had other options of committing suicide. Suffering from depression or not.. this is no excuse to act in such a way... and I despise him for it, in all honesty...

[@upontheventura]

I would like to see these documentaries... Such a tragedy

[@ryanlight1013]

Not reading all of that

[@sarahblum2506]

@@upontheventura sometimes they have English subtitles. You can type in WDR documentary Germanwings. Unless you know or are German, then in German of course :))

[@aloud9738]

Guten taag, wie gest?

[@ProvidEd709]

Yes that's sad, unfortunately sometimes we put our lives in someones hands, people that we don't know.

[@aarontaylor4967]

Pilots have so much responsibility. I regularly fly Guernsey-Jersey. Very short, 15-minute flight but it is a small plane and only one pilot. I always pray he doesn't have a heart attack, or the passengers are doomed.

[@jil4792]

I remember I flew germanwings to Valencia one year prior. After this happend I attended one flight on germanwings to Italy and the shelter next to me said Barcelona and eurowings that was the first time I noticed they changed the name but the plane looked the same and said germanwings and it creeped me out at that moment. I also heard the voice recording of that flight at some point later on and it's very disturbing.

[@adriana27100]

40 different doctors!!! Wow, how could this under the radar with such a profession??? There needs to be more laws in order… seriously, the stuff I’ve witnessed first hand, this needs to change to protect so many innocent people 🙏🏻💔

[@thescfiles1273]

I think it was written in German law which restricted doctors to reveal details about patients

[@greyfells2829]

Laws are the reason why his history was kept concealed, Germany has asinine privacy laws.

[@MAnna-tq9hg]

This is the weirdest law ever. You as a doctor SHOULD ALWAYS have access to your patients medical history…. Makes no sense.

[@jena.alexia]

I'm sure now there is to prevent doctor shopping. In Australia we have SafeScript (came in about 2018) which is a live database that flashes up a warning for the doctor if they go to prescribe you something you've been prescribed elsewhere. It's a good idea. Chemist has it too for OTC stuff like Sudafed.

[@ehayes7849]

Yours are my thoughts exactly. Pilots and those in other professions (including younger gun owners) need to be vetted more closely and more often.

[@giomar89]

I don't believe there's anybody out there who could have covered this case better than you've done. You're an absolute class act.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you!!

[@norahmcphee4928]

Thank you Adrian for the research and the hours of gathering up real and true information about this terrible crash. I have actually seen the television program that went into why it happened. THis man's terrible vanity and selfishness cost 149 innocent people their lives, and all because he didn't want to lose his pilots licence because of how much it had cost him to get. He didn't care about who else got hurt into the bargain, he only cared about his own selfish needs. When people are working in such jobs that can cost someone their life, there should be more checks done on their psych and the doctors should be able to tell an employer that this person is not suitable at this time for this role. I know that we all want our information about ourselves kept confidential, but in cases like this it could have saved oh so many lives. My hearts and prayers go out to the families and friends that all lost someone to this selfish act.

[@suprememagnetic4850]

Great channel. I was getting bored of some of these channels and sought out a new one with great stories and found you. I will now binge all your videos!

[@julecaesara482]

I remember this case being heavily discussed in the papers back then because it is so unusual for a suicidal person to take other people with them.

[@TheMollyBea]

That's because he was a sadistic mass murderer. Like you said, it's not the norm for suicidal ppl to take so many innocent lives with them.

[@minion0777]

Is NOT unusual....

[@digimonalvatrax2738]

Not really a lot of people kill others first then themselves. F¥ckers even cower away before they take their lives after killing others

[@julecaesara482]

@@minion0777 it was put that way in the papers

[@johnnyb2909]

they never found the black box of the plane, its very suspicious

[@helenawarsinnak]

Oh my goodness the passengers were not in any agony?!?! Are you kidding me their last thoughts were that they're all going to die and never be able to see any of their loved ones or friends etc.... That to me is complete agony!!😢

[@kenhammscousin4716]

Right

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

Maybe they thought agony exclusively meant physical pain. Of course, the crash was over in a second... but you have to be very detached from reality to not get why this is wrong.

[@AnAdorableWombat]

No. They most likely didn't suffer any physical agony. Some may have suffered heart attacks before landing due to fear, others were in shock and felt no pain during impact.

[@whitedragoness23]

They were in mental agony, that’s pain and can be as bad as physical bad when it’s extreme. The murderer would of known that. The company didn’t have access to his declining mental state. So they are not completely at fault with preventing the guy. So the best option they had was to fire him as soon as he was listed as depressed. This would of prevented the event. But that leaves a dilemma, should companies fire their employees if they decline in mental health ? How bad is bad when the employee is no longer a person who can handle the job and it affects the safety of the public?

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

If you mean mental anguish/terror that's true. Physically they probably didn't feel much pain upon impact

[@kilcitykitty]

ive heard of this case. i thought it was the most incredibly selfish of them all... if you are wanting to take yourself out then do it on your own, why take hundreds of people with you for no reason... Im in no way saying anyone who feels that way should do that but you gotta get where i'm coming from on this one :( its so sad so many children and people who wanted to live and left loved ones behind just because of 1 person's selfish action...

[@solvek2196]

Ive been waiting for a video just like this based on flight 9525 for so long! thanks so much for making this gem!

[@daa5865]

as someone with depression and self-offing thoughts, one of the things stopping me the most is that I'll hurt people. Absolutely can't imagine what must have been going through his head, so sick.

[@tpl6963]

the dashboard, at around 300mph

[@breakingyourlegs]

What a coward that co-pilot was... It's so frustrating! All these families that had to suffer because of that one person.

[@just-be-nice]

One has to be in such a dark, desperate, and lost head space to do this to himself and others. So sad for the families AND Andres.

[@samuelbcst]

@@just-be-nice Sad for Andreas?! He lost any right for sympathy when he involved innocent people in this pure evil act. How can you feel sad for a mass murderer?

[@poeethics9331]

@@samuelbcst I agree. I have no sympathy for him. Mental illness is not your fault, but it is your responsibility. Take care of yourself everyone.

[@Sick1982]

A coward doesn't dive a plane into a mountain

[@breakingyourlegs]

@@Sick1982 a coward can't commit suicide on his own (or rather alone), but needs to take other people down with him.

[@staceykenny7078]

I remember this, I'm glad you've covered it and you have such a respectful way of doing so. I feel for the families of the victims, an absolute tragedy. Imagine having to let those families know that is was the pilot. Such a selfish and senseless thing to do, there really is no excuse. Btw I really noticed your pronunciation of each different language, it's a reflection of the care and respect that comes across in each of your videos. I try my hand at different languages when I meet people from different places. Keep up the good work 🙌

[@brianwong7285]

This case was a tragic example of lessons not learned... As just a year and 5 months before this tragedy, a Mozambican passenger jet, LAM Flight 470, crashed in Bwabwata National Park whilst operating a flight from Maputo to Luanda in Angola. Investigations revealed that it was the captain of that flight (having gone through a divorce settlement, surgery of his daughter and worse still, his son killing himself.), suffering from depression, locked the FO of the flight out, and also programmed the Embraer 190 to fly into the ground.

[@juliebean2806]

It's one thing, sad as it may be, to take one's own life but to take all those innocent people with him was disgraceful

[@moonlightwolf]

As someone studying to become an accident investigator, this case is heartbreaking. So much loss of life, but sadly, it's not the only incident of pilot suicide during a flight

[@northerngirl4666]

Actually, there is another one. I think it was a Chinese pilot who spent a long time deviating from the flight plan. The plane crashed eventually - deliberately by the pilot.

[@moonlightwolf]

@@northerngirl4666 there's quite a few actually

[@hillarybillary21]

Right. This was a suicide. Uh huh. You’ll do great.

[@moonlightwolf]

@@hillarybillary21 no need to be rude

[@harshdeepdhiman880]

Can you list some! I would interested to study about them

[@Thatgirl1976]

Thank you for including a nice little bit of info about some of the people on board and the lives that were lost.

[@crystalphillips696]

He had no right killing all those souls because he wanted to die. This is such tragic story. Bless all their souls and their families.

[@TheIGITnBLUE]

No matter how severe the conditions are, it's no excuse to commit to such a staggering selfish, and heartless act. He gets no sympathy from me. You always have a choice.

[@jean-jn3nq]

Totally agree.

[@0therun1t21]

As someone diagnosed with major depression but not on meds I agree 100%!

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

Yes, especially since he had been struggling for over a period of time so he had plenty enough opportunity to recognise he was not fit to do this particular job in his state of mind before it got out of control. He made the decision not to just like he made the decision to kill innocent people instead of drinking some poison in his home. His reason to kill wasn't depression, it was the same as for most other mass murderers and serial killers: good old-fashioned narcissistic entitlement. May he rot in hell and RIP to all the victims.

[@minikuhlschrank]

I live in Germany - I would've never imagined that something like that can happen . Feel sorry for the passengers and their families - really heartbreaking.

[@truesoulghost2777]

Live in Germany but don’t know the world has monsters in it…ok then. I agree though it’s unbelievable when anyone does it.

[@raiusdaltar1483]

@@truesoulghost2777 Shut up, you're putting words in his mouth.

[@firstnamelastname9215]

Lol the Germans should know the worst that humans can do

[@discordye4825]

This is why we need to be able to remotely take control of an aircraft from any nearby control tower.

[@lexicat6177]

Glad I found this channel. Refreshing new cases to me. Well done!

[@theoniway2323]

How incredibly selfish! He knew he was suffering and severely suicidal. Inexcusable to take all those innocent lives with him. My condolences to the loved ones of the deceased. Excellent coverage and detail. Thank you

[@--_--IMP--_--]

While you are correct and I agree with everything you said, there was more to it than being suicidal. If it was solely about ending his own life, he could have done that the day before while flying the (almost) empty plane. Instead, intentionally he used that flight as a test run to make sure his plan would work, with the obvious intention of doing that with a full plane at a later point. That is clear homicidal intent, not just suicidal intent. This was premeditated mass murder.

[@Semmelein]

Calling someone selfish that is severely struggling with mental health just adds to the problem. If this guy really "knew" don't you think he would have acted accordingly? But he couldn't because he was ill. I do not want to give an excuse here because what he did was unexcusable. Please do understand though that judging him by what you think a normal person would do is not helping.

[@--_--IMP--_--]

​@@Semmelein He made a very calculated choice. There are plenty of people in his exact situation who acknowledge their problems and accept the need for professional help and choose to get treated. He went the opposite way with it. He earned every bit of any judgement he gets. He could have chosen to be his only victim. He premeditatedly chose mass murder, instead. His conscious choice to murder 149 people overrides any potentially warranted sympathy for his condition.

[@theoniway2323]

@@--_--IMP--_-- You’re correct. Maybe I missed something in his story… I don’t recall him having homicidal urges. It’s all horrific and devastating, especially the way the airline chose to handle it.

[@Semmelein]

@@--_--IMP--_-- That's not what I wanted to say at all. I'm not telling anyone to have sympathy just that the stance that this is just selfish completely misrepresents the problem at hand. How often were we in a situation where we didn't acknowledge the situation, or our problems and didn't accept the need for help? Now take that and multiply it by 100. So yes, his choice may be completely calculated. But it was not sane. That's the part we all need to understand. As long as we're just blaming this on his decision we miss the opportunity to improve mental health in the society as a whole - probably even hurting us. That's all I'm saying - no matter if you have sympathy or not.

[@derkeheath5172]

It wasn't until my doctor tried me out on a fairly low dose of Prozac - leading to voices in my head, waking nightmares, and a weekend where I kind of lost my mind a bit - that I truly understood how fragile mental health can be. Luckily, my doctor had warned me about these possible side effects, so it didn't take me by surprise and make things MUCH worse, but it was still highly worrisome and I switched back to citalopram/Celexa after 4 days on the Prozac.

[@milujoTV]

Sadly he had these thoughts for a long while. In the moment when you decide to do the final part you don't think about other people involved. Like the people jumping in front of a train who don't think about the traindrivers or passengers inside, Lubitz thought something like now or never and didn't think about anybody else. The good thing is psychological disease is more discussed now and pilots are not allowed to be alone in the cockpit anymore. Edit: I'm from germany, a former friend of mine was the music teacher of 6 of the students on the plane. She was absolutely devastated. Especially when the media came to their school and asked crying ten year old girls if it's really that bad to have lost someone 🙄

[@MarieAntoinetteBestQueen]

That was auch an insensitive thing for them ask. Some people enjoy making grieving people cry for their own amusement. It's disgusting

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

Let me guess it was Bildzeitung or other Bulevardmedia. Serious Journalists would never ask it.. Iam a teacher myself ans If i think somebody would kill my student.

[@annnee6818]

@@MarieAntoinetteBestQueen And we love reading it, if we didn't read it, they wouldn't do it. Otherwise agreed, vile vulture.

[@WeldingQueen]

To me he's pure unadulterated evil. He knew he was having mental health issues and still decided to fly that is a conscious choice. Maybe there was something not wired right in his brain that made him evil and not think about other people but either way I hope the people that lost their lives find peace and I hope he spends eternity suffering but everybody has their own opinion so to each their own... Edit .......some ppl do think about others when they make that decision to end it I know I did both times I ended up in the hospital but I sure as s*** didn't involve anybody else and what everybody's experience me differ there is no excuse for hurting other people and a mental issue sure as s*** is not as an excuse especially because this has been going on for so long this didn't come out of the blue.

[@cornholius]

I think it's too kind to assume he wasn't considering the other people he was condemning to death. He easily could have just OD'd on his medication or jumped off a bridge. Instead it seems like he planned this. Maybe he took comfort knowing he wouldn't be dying alone? I don't know, but it's hard for me to believe he didn't intentionally involve those people in his plan.

[@TheTaurean]

I love it when you share your personal experiences Adrian 😍

[@drdrayfromla99]

I saw this one on Air Disasters. Scary knowing that you hope the one who is flying your plane is 100% of sound mind and not having a bad day or he/she could be taking you down with them. I also remember on the flight before this one, he tested out the locking of the cockpit so he did have evil intentions for quite some time.

[@jillwanlin9558]

Yeh I watched that entire series. I’m not sure why because it’s scary as hell. There were other cases besides this one too.

[@eleryan3992]

I am from the city where the class of students were from. It was a really terrible day. The whole city was in shock… I can still remember the weeks that followed… My mom took a flight with him the day before. It was the same route. I’m still so sad for alle the people who lost their lives because of him

[@BrosBrothersLP]

Its so weird to find people Here fromm the Same kinda small town

[@sylvan.8202]

@@BrosBrothersLP that city is not really small... I also lived near that city and it had an impact on everyone.

[@BrosBrothersLP]

@@sylvan.8202 I mean its Like 50k people.

[@timeadobo]

I remember that day😭 I was at home watching the news I was shocked..…. I cried a lot for those victims😭 Even in the following weeks....the 16 teenagers hurts the most😭inocent angels I was scared of flying for a while ..,

[@0CaptainOats0]

this is ripping my heart out - i must have plugged my ears not to hear about it back in 2015 bc i was taking the plane to university all the time and tragedies like this one would have made me horribly distressed at the idea of flying. Anyways... thank you Adrian, I really appreciated your tact and sensitivity for the victims of this case ❤ I hope they and their loved ones find peace

[@dedestaten7915]

Sooooo sad! Thank you for sharing….you did a great job with this commentary!

[@jpdoe9005]

I was prescribed Mirtazapin and Citalopram once. I don't think it is an unusual combination of meds. The Mirtazapin would make me really tired. When I took them at 8 pm I would struggle to keep my eyes open until my bedtime at 10. To think that that guy took Mirtazapin and insomnia meds and still couldn't sleep is terrifying.

[@jpdoe9005]

@@fernfunk Yeah I actually changed meds because of that. Afterwards 5 kilos basically fell off me.

[@MelissaBezerra]

same, a friend of mine that took a higher dosage of mirtazapin than me would wake up in the morning on the bathroom floor if she tried to pee after taking it, i wonder what mg he took of these meds cause this is insane, he was absolutely in a deep psychotic state from that insomnia drug (known for causing paranoia and psychotic episodes) and lack of sleep (it can cause severe hallucinations and delusions), but he seemed too organized and coherent during social interactions and planning of the murder, how bizarre

[@MelissaBezerra]

@@fernfunk ah me too, i’d be eating half asleep in the kitchen table lol

[@silverbullet7691]

I’ve struggled with mental health, as have so many others so I’m not unique in this regard. It can be a hard experience than many can relate to, but any sympathy I could’ve had for him died the moment he decided to take all those people with him. They didn’t ask to be part of his suicide plot. So many dreams and aspirations were extinguished because of one man who extensively worked to conceal his plans.

[@yointhebedroom83]

Well said.

[@jeffrey.a.hanson]

But think of your own experiences of feeling trapped, depressed, and anxious. You’re likely more of an empath, but even with that…how much are you thinking about the welfare of others when you’re in a survival state? This pilot also dealt with extreme paranoia. It all makes sense when he finds peace at the coffee lounge before that flight. He’s no longer trapped. Now, this would trigger some to ‘get off the ledge’ and either fly that plane like a true pro that day or call admin and say “I’m not fit to fly today”.

[@silverbullet7691]

@@jeffrey.a.hanson his survival state was pre planned murder-suicide. That’s not survival, that’s really dangerous delusion. I do understand where you’re coming from though, trying to understand why but the why (the reality of what he was paranoid about) wasn’t real. His plans were not for survival, but an end all.

[@TheJenipherz]

I love the outro. I just recently rewatched those movies. You have perfect timing. Cheers!

[@carolinesniderhunt3824]

I love this! Excellent production. I worked at DeHavilland,Boeing&Bombardier. Your knowledge in AC industry showed. The mental health issue is so important and you shed a bright light on the sad story...

[@oldbat2ccats]

Adrian, your narration of this tragedy scared me half to death. As a retired flight attendant with 42 years of service I have never been through any kind of in-flight disturbance other than some scary turbulence. How heartless to think that all the passengers and crew didn’t suffer in those final minutes. Thank you for a story well told and with your usual compassion.

[@jwst8]

they know passengers were extremely stressed out in those 10 minutes.. but europeans are pragmatic, they won't let a successful company go bankrupt because of one insane and unfortunate incident

[@SK-tk6bi]

I don't call that kind of behaviour pragmatic. The company won't go bankrupt even with large compensation to the deceased people's families. Overall, I think Germans need to learn some empathy.

[@cherrymaria5967]

I remember celebrating my friends birthday when we decided to watch a movie as the sun already set. We turn on the TV and are greeted by such horrible news. My friends mother also took the flight back to Düsseldorf that day, not from Barcelona though, but it was enough to scare everyone. Rest In Peace all poor and innocent souls that were takin with the Pilot. Sending positive vibes to the families💖

[@NiekEdeling]

What a great job you did with this video; ecellent research and excellent presentation!

[@RJ-gv4ep]

Thank you Adrian for bringing this up.