The Mycenaean Palace of Nestor - 3D

[@serchamaco22]

Awesome reconstruction!!!

[@ezzovonachalm9815]

Finalement une vidéo qui permet de VOIR le palais de Nestor et d'imaginer la venue de Telemaque auprès du roi et vieux sage. On souhaiterait une vidéo plus longue, permettant d 'entrer dans toutes les pièces, le chemin vers la salle du thrône,. la salle des banquets et des symposia ( lorscequ'on de réunissait pour boire le vin résineux de la Grèce.) Couleurs magnifiques ! Je peux vraiment dire "Eh bien oui, je suis allé à Pylos trouver le vénérable Nestor dans son magnifique palais !.

[@lesinsulaires8610]

Tout à fait d'accord, c'est assez galère de trouver des infos vraiment complète sur la vie en Grèce antique en français, il faut souvent fouiller dans des documents en anglais ou en grec pour trouver des réponses à ses questions 😣 Surtout quand on s'intéresse à des temps un peu plus reculés que la période classique et hellénistique...

[@fakeuzero]

Je ne connaissais pas du tout ce palais, mais je le trouve magnifique. Je suis d'accord qu'il faudrait une vidéo plus longue montrant l'intérieur et les chemins d'accès.

[@fabiolamadonna5277]

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[@georgehandrinos2274]

Nice!! Vert good work....

[@mariaantoniacasadovinas8915]

Qué pena que no esté en español. Enhorabuena por programa. Una maravilla. Estoy enamorada de la antigua Grecia. Es un referente

[@MH-ms1dg]

anyone willing to volunteer making Spanish subtitles?

[@mariaantoniacasadovinas8915]

Yes. Muchas gracias.

[@ezzovonachalm9815]

mariaantonia Es sufficiente mirar a lo que se vé ! L'as palabras serian inutiles ! MIRAR, no hablabla blar !

[@jimorr820]

English subtitles would be nice

[@TheAzerbijian]

Beautiful though doesn’t hold a candle to design at Knossos. Murals however, are breathtaking. ❣️

[@ig9927]

Καλή λευτεριά και επιστροφή στην δόξα

[@Lara__]

το παλάτι του Νέστορα ήταν η "δόξα"?

[@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Obvious Minoan influence during that period

[@vice4134]

I agree! I wonder if Minoan Civilization took over the land & built that palace.

[@ewigesgermanien4174]

Can you give me a link to good ancient pagan greek music?

[@sakdavid]

Check out a band called "Daemonia Nymphe" (kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4C2iYKJeZ6Mg68), I think they are the closest thing to what you are looking for, but, as far as I know, they are sadly unique. However, if you are into black metal, there are many Greek bands with a distinct pagan/ancient Greek feeling: Kawir, Naer Mataron, Macabre Omen, Primal Cult, Melan Selas etc.

[@puffthemagicdragon2665]

Are you sure this isn’t the Knossos palace?

[@AncientAthens3D]

Mycenaean palaces like this one (the Palace of Nestor) were heavily influenced by the Minoan Palaces, like Knossos. In general Mycenaeans copied many things from the Minoans, including art, architecture and scripture.

[@elliottbaker1998]

Truly fascinating. How sure are you on the throne?

[@AncientAthens3D]

The mark from the base of the throne is still visible in its place in the ruins. It is known that the Mycenaean palaces and culture were highly influenced by the Minoan ones and have many similarities. So the Mycenaean thrones are usually depicted according to the one actually found in Knossos palace. The original throne of Knossos was made of stone, but since the Palace of Pylos was suddenly destroyed by fire and no stone throne survives, it is thought that the Pylos throne was made of wood.

[@elliottbaker1998]

@@AncientAthens3D thank you my friend

[@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449]

@@AncientAthens3D This is beautiful footage. Would you allow me to use silent portions of this in an upcoming EP on ancient Pylos? I'd happily provide attribution, thanks for your time! Seriously, wonderful job.

[@ΗλίαςΑνδρινιπουλος]

I love you pilos

[@MH-ms1dg]

any idea why columns went from being top-heavy to bottom-heavy? (Mycenaean > archaic/classical)

[@AncientAthens3D]

Mycenaean columns were mostly made of wood and supported lightweight structures (made of wood and mudbricks). In archaic times they started making monumental buildings out of stone or marble. For this reason they tried to find ways to make the structure appear more light, graceful and stable. One of these refinements was to create columns with "meiosis" (=thinner towards the top) and "entasis" (=thicker around the 1/3rd of the height).

[@MH-ms1dg]

@@AncientAthens3D does the change in material truly necessitate that specific change in design though? the "capitals" of Mycenaean columns look very much like the bases of later classical columns, as if they really were just flipped upside down didn't the Ancient Egyptians already have entasis and meiosis?

[@AncientAthens3D]

Correct, the Egyptians already had elements of these refinements. But they also faced similar aesthetic issues since they also built in stone for big monuments much earlier than the Greeks. All the different types of Egyptian columns (around 5 main types) immitate plants or repeat stylistic features of wooden architecture in stone. The Mycenaean capitals might look like inverted ionic bases, but actually have many features of the doric capitals, especially the early archaic ones like those of the first Temple of Hera I, at Paestum (ca 550 BC). Also we should take into account that Greece is a place with many earthquakes and an inverted "meiosis" is not the best solution regarding stability, let alone that most of the columns were consisted of parts (column drums).

[@MH-ms1dg]

@@AncientAthens3D that's fascinating, we can see Egyptian parallels (and possibly precedents) for fluting too (e.g. Temple of Hatshepsut) if inverted meiosis isn't sound, than does this mean the Minoan/Mycenaean top-heavy column design was more cultural than practical? earthquakes were a problem in China too, but the wooden parts of Chinese buildings fit together like 4D puzzles so as to possibly confer greater stability

[@AncientAthens3D]

I think that as you say the inverted was more of a design for the wooden columns. These were usually fluted with stucco layers, or covered in bronze decorated sheets. Actually, since the inverted meiosis columns were made of wood, no sample survives. We can only see them depicted in frescoes, the stone relief of the Lion Gate at Mycenae and a few others. The famous Minoan columns in the palace of Knossos are all modern cement reconstructions. The (very few) actual stone columns that survive, are without meiosis or refinements at all. Take a look for example at the columns of the Treasury of Atreus from Mycenae, now in the British Museum.

[@gallucinogenia]

Симпатично было у ахейцев!

[@ΓιαννουλαΚαφτερανη]

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[@κατεριναντουλια-β3ε]

Δεν εχω παει😢😢😢😢θα παω,περασα διπλα😢😢😢και στεναχωρηθηκα

[@miaaguiar7692]

Nesto

[@StaurosPapadakis]

Δεν το γνώριζα αυτό το ανάκτορο...

[@Thewonderingminds]

Χωρις παρουσιαση των λεπεπιλεπτων αγγειων ενδιξεως υπερκοσμιου νου, αχριστα τ'αλλα ολα.

[@vice4134]

Mycenaean??? WRONG! The styling is from Minoan Civilization.