The Mystery of the Trinity - Doug Batchelor

[@samsungblu1023]

Thank You Pastor Doug I Am Always So Blessed Listening To Your Preaching. Happy Sabbath To You And Your Family. 🤗🙏

[@monaleth6065]

So good

[@reginaboakye4736]

Thank you Lord Jesus Christ Hallelujah Amen 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾✨✨✨⭐️⭐️⭐️✝️✝️✝️👑🌹🌹🌹

[@heidiaeschlimann2244]

thx for preaching about this .

[@heidiaeschlimann2244]

amen Pastor Doug.

[@shellyrichardson4188]

Thank you for this wonderful service...AMEN...AMEN...

[@charmainethompson9970]

No one would be save if Satan knows our thoughts

[@annmerklin2891]

The only way he knows your thoughts are by what you say, body language, and the way you look. He can NOT read minds, but he's very smart! Keep close to God as the devil knows what He can do, and fears Him.

[@ZionMartinez-il2og]

Hmm facts…🙏🏾

[@frankherrera1217]

Happy Sabbath pastor

[@MichaellaSapphire]

A topic that even some SDA disagree on. It's not the Bible's fault, it's clear as day that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are distinct yet are One. People who deny the Holy Spirit should repent, it's blasphemy.

[@bobbi2235]

People don’t deny the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and His Son.

[@peterwilliams843]

God the Father, Jesus His son and their holy spirit

[@Henry04u2]

Why do people explaining 'the trinity' ALWAYS use the word, "Mystery"? The Bible shows that our Heavenly Father, and His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, are the ONLY two to be worshipped in the Heavens and the Earth. Trinity is a false doctrine out of Babylon, and Doug knows this....Matthew 24:4-5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. (5) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. Amen

[@bobbi2235]

🙏🏼 Amen

[@charmainethompson9970]

John 5:18 Philippians 2:6 please fund and read

[@beadyeyedwomanify]

Pastor...as always big thanks...i do have one question why would the Holy Spirit need a gender?

[@user-lz7pz5xw1x]

Randy Nevins Jesus came as an adult from the Fathers chest from Ellen White

[@charmainethompson9970]

Find

[@jerrystilwell7666]

If you knew and read and studied your bible you would know that Christ came to earth as a man. He had no godly power except the Holy Spirit which He used as an example for us to follow. He went to the Father in prayer for empowerment to heal and to spread the Word of God. He surrendered all His Godly powers to save mankind.

[@patriciaallen4047]

Pray for more wisdom.

[@cateatfood6634]

Yeah, no such thing as space.

[@nadiabezman8287]

[@christhomas8607]

The Trinity is a mystery according to Doug Batcheoler. Now he goes onto explain this mystery of the Trinity. James chpt 1 8 says ( a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. In other words he says one thing and then says another thing. Talk about confusion. There was another yuong speaker who preached the same thing. Double minded.

[@christhomas8607]

James chpt8 1 v8

[@donnaearwood1009]

The pioneers were not trinitarian.its a Catholic doctrine.after jesus death people were put to death for not believing in the Trinity doctrine.its pagan from get go

[@bobbi2235]

True!

[@polycarpsmith1419]

How is it, that the Adventist version of a "self-sacrificing Shepherd" was "given power" as EGW says when in reality Christ possessed all the power. How is it that you all teach Christ was *"made"* equal with God, as to mean Christ was NOT equal with God? Then you all claim you are Trinitarian, but then EGW and the teachings of the SDA subtilty teach just the opposite. You all are dishonest.

[@henkhavenga1]

@polycarpsmith1419, Please look at the facts as given and at the Bybel, do not make comments by twisting words. Just as satan did in the garden, you twist the facts. Why do you do this?

[@polycarpsmith1419]

@@henkhavenga1 Why is it, that the first thing you all do when you can't defend yourselves is call someone Satan? Do you not know that that is the very thing the Sabbath keepers called Christ? Now let's get to the truth of the matter and you will find, I'm not Satan at all. I'm quoting your own false prophet and the SDA. “The Eternal Father, the unchangeable one, gave his only begotten Son, tore from his bosom *Him who was made* in the express image of his person, and sent him down to earth to reveal how greatly he loved mankind.” EGW, Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, 07-09-1895, “The Duty of the Minister and the People,” Par. 14. The quote above is troubling, she is plainly stating that Jesus Christ was *“made”* Those who have studied scripture know that Jesus is uncreated, thus it would not be accurate to refer to him as “made”. Below we see another troubling quote of Ellen White, where she is directly stating that Jesus wasn’t God. “The man Christ Jesus was NOT the Lord God Almighty” (Letter 32, 1899, quoted in the Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 5, p. 1129). Here again, Ellen G. White says Christ was "exalted" as equal with God *“The exaltation of the Son of God as equal with the Father was represented as an injustice to Lucifer, who, it was claimed, was also entitled to reverence and honor.”* EGW, Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 37 “The Sovereign of the universe was not alone in His work of beneficence. He had an associate-a co-worker who could appreciate His purposes, and could share His joy in giving happiness to created beings. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.” John 1:1, 2. Christ, the Word, the only begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father- *one in nature, in character, in purpose-*the only being* that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God.” Patriarchs and Prophets pg 34 Though there are many problems in the above statement what is most glaring is that she qualifies “one in nature” with character and purpose and then states Jesus as being the *“only being* that could enter”.Jesus Christ is the second person of the Trinity not the second being. The doctrine of the Trinity is ONE BEING expressed in three persons. Ellen White is teaching a tri-unity of *three beings in purpose* rather than the Holy Trinity that the Bible teaches. “The Father *wrought by His Son* in the creation of all heavenly beings” Patriarchs and Prophets pg 34 How much more do you need to have. There's lots more from the SDA and Ellen G. White. That's what happens when you are a false prophet.

[@tunsiehelden]

She didn’t teach this subtle at all. She didn’t believe in the trinity. Modern day SDA’s don’t believe the same as the founders. The founders believed in the Biblical truths. Not in the trinity which is not Biblical.

[@polycarpsmith1419]

@@tunsiehelden Well, you don't know much about the bible or the Trinity. 1 Corinthians 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a *Mystery* , even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a *Mystery* ; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this *Mystery* , lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the *Mystery* , which was kept secret since the world began, 1 Timothy 3:9 Holding the *Mystery* of the faith in a pure conscience. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the *Mystery* of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 1:26 Even the *Mystery* which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this *Mystery* among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Colossians 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the *Mystery* of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; Colossians 4:3 Withal praying also for us, that God would open unto us a door of utterance, to speak the *Mystery* of Christ, for which I am also in bonds: Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the *Mystery* of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: Ephesians 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the *Mystery* ; (as I wrote afore in few words, Ephesians 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the *Mystery* of Christ) Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the *Mystery* , which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Ephesians 5:32 This is a great *Mystery* : but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Ephesians 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the *Mystery* of the gospel, Revelation 1:20 The *Mystery* of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the *Mystery* of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.>

[@polycarpsmith1419]

@@tunsiehelden I know the founders were not Trinitarian. No secret there except the one the SDA deliberately hides from the public so they can APPEAR to be Christian. . So, how many gods to you believe in? The Adventist's have 3 a "Trio" as they like to say.

[@lovefortruth4778]

There is no trinity, the word of GOD says, hear oh Israel the LORD our GOD is one, how can you get trinity out of one , Catholics can teach the trinity better then anyone,why ? because they invented the teaching of the trinity. Just saying.

[@polycarpsmith1419]

The Adventist Church needs to come clean about the fact that Ellen G. White did not profess or teach the Trinity. And, that the SDA lied to the public about being Trinitarian in order to survive and try to blend into Christianity. Ellen G. White was not Trinitarian and neither did she believe or teach that Christ was God. She taught that the Father had given Christ his authority and it was "devolved" upon him. You all became Trinitarian, in name only to deceive the public and to gain acceptance so you could survive. It's so typical of the deceptive practices of Adventism. At every turn, you all try to have things both ways to gain members, not because it's the truth. *Ellen G White changed the Trinity even the GODHEAD itself* How is it, that the Adventist version of a "self-sacrificing Shepherd" was *"given power"* as EGW says when in reality Christ possessed all the power and in Him is the fulness of the Godhead. How is it that you all teach Christ was *"made"* equal with God, as to mean Christ was NOT equal with God? Then you all claim you are Trinitarian, but then EGW and the teachings of the SDA subtilty teach just the opposite. You all are dishonest.

[@jerrystilwell7666]

So which of the godhead do you deny?

[@dsmith6356]

Bible verse ?

[@JudyAnn17]

@@jerrystilwell7666the trinity is fully pagan. God the Father is Biblical. Son of God is Biblical. Spirit of God is Biblical. God the Son is not Biblical. God the Holy Spirit is not Biblical. God in three persons is not Biblical. One God, God the Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit , not three but one God is not Biblical. The Trinity doctrine is three who are all called God. The doctrine of Jesus is Both. The Only True God and his only begotten Son. If the Trinity is a mystery, why do people like Doug explain it? 😉

[@lovegodscreatures6776]

Funny…you call yourself @lovefortruth But refused to accept the truth from the bible. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. The word trinity is not found in the bible. But the bible teaches of the three God heads.

[@reginaldcharles5770]

Doug is way off as usual. He uses texts that are cherry picked to support his theory. The Trinity doctrine is of pagan origin just google it. It was brought into Christianity via Roman Catholic Church and even they took over a hundred years to finalize the agreement. It’s all history. The Spirit is the Spirit of the Father God and you can’t separate the two. Scripture says a body without the spirit is dead. Just try living with out your spirit. When we die our spirit goes to the Father who is the all source of life everywhere. It’s the Holy Spirit of the Father that He has poured out to His Son who is the only agent of the Father that controls the Universe.

[@reginaldcharles5770]

Doug is limiting the power of the Father. The Son was begotten from the Father that’s what the Father says. The Father says He doesn’t lie so you (Doug) have to believe Him. There is lots of mysteries that we don’t understand and won’t until they are revealed to us. We have been given a lesser light to help us understand the mysteries. I’m sorry Doug but EGW doesn’t agree with you. Read PP and The Story of Redemption. And while you are at it, read The GC over again. You might change your mind about what is truth. I’ve always taken God at His Word and what ever He says I believe it. He said He created the world and everything else by His Son and I believe Him. He didn’t say He had a third person helping Him. Just His Son. You can surmise all kinds of scenarios but if He didn’t say it then believe it. That’s why we have so many different theories and conflicting opinions. Just take Him at His Word and you will have no problem.

[@JudyAnn17]

I hope the more he try’s to prove a trinity doctrine, people will study this out and find the truth.

[@bobbi2235]

@@reginaldcharles5770AMEN!!