the NARCISSIST vs. the NARCISSIST (S&M)

[@bozevstheworld]

good morning bozos! take excellent care of yourself, set some New Years goals and reach out to someone u haven’t spoken to awhile today!!!! thx

[@emojis_withlove6219]

Take care of yourself also 😄

[@kaiyaatkins2776]

You too boze!

[@camilap.8096]

Happy early New Years

[@alteriigoh9289]

Perfect vid with a midnight snack

[@frankiedankymemes]

🕯🤍🇨🇦 Stay hydrated ya Bozo!🚰

[@prodbytarantino]

Trisha really is the final boss battle of gaslighting. Not even Gabbie could take her on.

[@masta1591]

Lmaoooooo not the final boss. Too accurate 😂

[@Mtthyman]

And Gabbie does be an expert on the topic.

[@morrisyates7151]

Exactly trippyasl I don't know who's worse Trisha or Nickacado avacodo

[@the_fokin_monsta3109]

@Peachdroidttv * them

[@juventinareyes5001]

@@morrisyates7151 lowkey wanna see them go head to head

[@VertigoCrime]

Trisha is literally the gaslighting GOD. She’ll make everyone feel like shit for shit she did.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

my brother hates drama and focuses on positivity unlike me and he said "If someone like Trisha constantly gets into fights, the problem is her."

[@beatricedorian9908]

Tbh, I think she's one of the worst gaslighters to ever walk the planet because she's easily spotted 😂 The best gaslighters rarely get caught

[@Tw0Dots]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259eh sometimes righy

[@lukefarrell1453]

I think Gabbie agreed to this because almost everyone looks like the better person when in a room with Trisha

[@lullabybaby1845]

Yeahhhhhh

[@mungethekpopstan]

this

[@ggundercover3681]

but is she smart enough to think that when she agreed? I truly wonder. I used to think Gabbie had some kind of thought process that might make sense, but lately I just don't follow. so I genuinely want to know why she agreed if it was for a reason like what you said

[@GreystoneMom]

🙌

[@noriii]

@@mungethekpopstan love ur pfp

[@Gh0stChili]

The whole herpes thing- Trisha was constantly talking about getting stds on her own vlogs. Then for some reason randomly started denying it. So Gabby wasn't wrong here, she wasn't gossiping, she was actually just warning a friend by letting them know she heard trisha has "this" and told her friend to becareful. To me, that's a good friend. I'd want to be aware of something like that.

[@saratronus]

Oh my God that's exactly what I'm saying Trisha literally Made Non stop Storytime videos saying Then she has so many STd's and she has no idea where they came from because How many guys she slept with That was the whole story time video

[@ggundercover3681]

that was one of the only times I was like on Gabbie's side when it happened because her thought process was like mine. why would I not tell a friend or warn them. if I would be like if it's not true I'm sorry but I want you to know in case and you can talk about it to the person. like..gabbie done so much shit that she got hate because she lied so much in the past that no one believes in her when the few times she is right or wasn't wrong, she just took another route.

[@MinatheRaichu]

I think my biggest thing is that Trisha can make her own sexual health public if she wants to, I don't give a shit. But Gabby asking her collective audience for validation on telling someone else that their partner has an STI made it gross to me. Regardless if she mentioned the name or not, it shouldn't have been a poll on instagram, imo. Like, tell your friend, whatever, but don't try and wring engagement out of that

[@Lea-is-sleeping]

@@MinatheRaichu but gabbie didn't make it public until after trisha did. Gabbie was basically taking the situation and saying "aita" to her audience. Yes it was probs for validation, yes for views and money, but she didn't bring any of it to the public eye until after trisha did

[@PenguinNinja45]

I disagree, Gabbie said Trisha had an STD she never had. And she didn't need to tell Jason Nash who is a 50 year old man lol.

[@rixiant6373]

Trisha is so scary that I feel like she is gonna become a true crime story one way or another.

[@dove.9833]

Omg ikr

[@siegejaymoonii]

RIGHT

[@sara.bearie]

so true. i've been thinking this a long time and it almost feels inevitable

[@justkev17]

This will age as it is…

[@cloudysupreme9859]

Let’s hope not

[@isabellewittwer4493]

I feel like Trisha has been coddled her whole life. She can’t stand when someone challenges her. It’s like she can’t even believe that there is a difference of opinion possible.

[@KingIbanazzi]

Imagine being her husband. Not even Ethan Klein could be around her long enough

[@johnnemblem]

They’re both obsessed with themselves and being right and it shows

[@77devon]

they both have childhood PTSD and were invalidated by their parents a lot and need extensive psychotherapy and a long break from the internet for it and it shows lmaoo

[@bruh-ItsTokyo]

@@77devon you are both right, they just also need to stay off the internet. Also, just bc you have these problems doesn't mean ppl should hold your hand and pity you. I dislike that and I have trauma and disabilities and someone damn there treating me like an infant then me being a fucking drama queen on the internet I'd just.... no. At least I am doing something for myself, what I love, my future family, etc.

[@77devon]

@@bruh-ItsTokyo i agree with you!! i never mean to make stuff like that sound like an excuse, but it can be a reason. i have my own fair share of those traumas and i always appreciate it when people are accommodating of me but if i sense they can't respect my boundaries, are insensitive, or a person/situation triggers me a lot, i am the one responsible to get myself out of there so i don't in turn trauma react and ''make a scene'' to put it bluntly. although i actually don't mind gabbie i just feel bad for her that she spiraled so bad :c she's very smart and could have been a good motivational speaker for mental health but unfortunately she lets her emotions and delusions get the best of her sometimes.

[@floatingbacon3909]

They’re both nauseating to hear argue…

[@Randorambo66449]

It does but gabbie was actually a Lot more mature....not saying she is a good person cause she isn't....but she was a bit more blunt and mature than trisha..... gabbie is wrong, Trisha is wrong but gabbie was very mature with this than she normally is

[@blazaybla22]

I love this feud because it’s literally just the narcissist version of a cat and mouse game and it’s so entertaining to see them struggle to understand why their narc tricks don’t work on each other. It’s like they’re both simultaneously the unstoppable force and the unmovable wall and it just creates this singularity of entertaining content, or how when you multiply a negative number by another negative number the result is positive.

[@thatonewitch]

Tom and Jerry, but if they were verbally toxic as well

[@mpho242]

The fact that Trisha makes me feel bad and scared for Gabby, a narcissist, speaks Volumes😖 scaryyyyy

[@barbecuewingsandmassage3495]

Gabbie has been proven to also be not be a good person but Trisha is on another level. Trisha has more experience, she’s done this with bigger creators and got away with it.

[@bunille]

Gabbie is more of a person who has childhood trauma (which can look narcissistic). I wouldn't be surprised if her parents were narcissists. Trisha is a full-blown overt narcissist and narcissistic victims are usually drawn towards narcissists all of their life. Gabbie's intentionally hurting herself.

[@deeddles1]

@@bunille Nah. A rape apologist verbally harassing the person her "friend" raped? That ain't child trauma, that's trash.

[@younsgamez5050]

@@deeddles1 wow what?

[@Purplechick101]

@@younsgamez5050 I can't remember her ex-friend name, but yup. She basically went and hung out with her friends predator and told her friend it didn't happen and that she's controlling for not wanting her to hang with the r*pist. Then told the world that the girl was delusional and needed her and the drama for $.

[@cntfromgod]

gabbie: thats gaslighting Trisha: (responds by further gaslighting)

[@chikitabowow]

Trisha is a shameless manipulator, but she's nowhere near smart enough to hide it lmao

[@TrillVinity]

💀😭

[@TK-cg4ks]

The bimbofication of manipulation dare I say.

[@hihellowhat]

@@TK-cg4ks LMAOO

[@ayla8345]

Trisha is smart tho. She knows what she’s doing she just plays dumb

[@jasmine3847]

@@ayla8345 this.

[@synovelle]

They're both narcissists, but Trisha is the alpha narcissist who manages to intimidate Gabbie at multiple times.

[@islandsicedtea]

was it ever a question that Trisha is a terrible person?

[@Celeste-jh2lj]

I always thought she was

[@rasberrypudding6913]

No

[@Nat-ls1uo]

No x2

[@mizstinkie]

yes x 1. in frenemies she was encourage by the audience

[@longangrysausage3495]

Nopee

[@peachfuzz8446]

having an ex best friend who was exactly like trisha is the scariest shit because it takes years to realise ur not a bad person 😭

[@LunarCauldron]

I feel you, I just cut out a narcissistic person I'd been friends with for years and now seeing I was never a bad friend to begin with ❤

[@kanderson8965]

Oh man that breaks my heart, I hope you’re doing well love

[@Georgiahh22]

Right?! I felt crazy for years and really doubted my own character 💔

[@melodie26terry]

Relatable. I used to have a best friend who was the same way.

[@zjay1356]

This situation is so dumb. The whole argument stems from Gabby insisting that she and Trisha used to be friends. What are they first graders? Let it go

[@yoppi560]

I mean if someone is constantly gaslighting you about never being friends with you I can see how you’d fixate on trying to prove them wrong

[@darkprincessoverland2230]

and that vid was made a while ago.

[@JessieJiShe]

Before I watched this video I would have agreed with you, but after watching this clip, I kinda understand gabby’s actions (I understand, but not agree). As someone who use to get gaslight a lot, it drives you kinda crazy when people try to deny reality to your face, I can’t imagine how it would feel, being done to the in the public eye.

[@Celeste-jh2lj]

I mean even if they WERE friends; they certainly arent now and she needs to respect that

[@yulana990]

@@Celeste-jh2lj When did she not ''respect'' that? The only reason she wanted to do this publicly is because Trisha started going around publicly claiming they never were friends and that gabbie is delusional and making up lies, literally gaslighting her PUBLICLY. This has nothing to do with Gabbie not "respecting that they aren't friends anymore''', and 100% with being gaslit on public platforms. I don't get why you even mentioned that Gabbie has to respect it, as that was not the point of the video or their argument, and she never lied about currently being her bff. Gabbie is a horrible person but in this situation she's 100% in the right, and had a good reason for wanting to talk with Trisha, and definitely ''respected'' their dead friendship from the start.

[@EmmanezerScrooge]

Bro only Trisha could make me land on Gabbie’s side in an argument.

[@mademoisellell]

gabbie hanna is honestly unsafe with her audience. i remember one time on twitter when i was like 12, i commented on one of her posts, and she replied to me, unknowingly unleashing her entire fanbase on me. i literally got death threats for the rest of the night. she's so irresponsible with her audience.

[@slowyourroll1146]

What did you comment to deserve something like that? That's ridiculous of her to do

[@DeoxysDNA]

Anyone willing to send death threats for someone like Gabbie is just sad. What exactly does she do that has people stanning her so hard? Nothing….

[@mademoisellell]

@@slowyourroll1146 literally she wasn't social distancing, and i called her out on it, and that was it.

[@crimeslime5419]

I’m sorry. I’m 23 and it hurts me to hear that 12 yr olds are on Twitter 😭 I know it happens but it really shouldn’t. Like I’ll bet it was mostly people around your age sending death threats. That’s just not okay. Twitter is a shithole even I don’t use it. But yeah you’re right. Public figures, especially ones based online, they don’t control their fanbase but they do know better! They act like they don’t but come on, you don’t even need a large following or years of internet experience to know how people can act online

[@nunpho]

That's gabbies whole thing, Trisha too. They like to use their stans as weapons against people when they don't get their way. It got especially bad with gabbie when she was literally making up stories about Rachel Oates which sent a torrent of abuse.

[@rainestar82]

Trisha is a gaslighting boss and Gabby is a playing victim boss. Doing this with her was calculated by Gabbie, because it makes her look better. she's used the EXACT same language toward others. Both of them are horrible and need help (Gabbie's repetition of "I never made it public" when Trisha has a valid point, Trisha trying to corner her when she's being actually honest about something....holy hell this feels like my own abuse doubled what the HELL)

[@icelily1761]

Does Trisha not know how to not talk a mile a minute? I mean it's probably her way to dominate the conversation and take control

[@justthemiddlethanks8256]

Most definitely, it doesn’t leave an opening for someone to respond or even think about what they are trying to say. It’s a way of being able to confuse the person and makes it easier to twist words

[@hikawagetsbitches]

trisha shabibo

[@TyneeBubbles]

She talks so fast and yet, says so little

[@Baldjotarokujo]

I don't like her. But I also talk fast

[@itzeliej7772]

Theres a ton of videos where Trisha claimed she got incurable STDs from her ex Anthony Michael Hall. So i don't blame gabby for wanting to protect her friends. Then again she could have said that to ruin her ex's reputation.

[@itzeliej7772]

There's tweets too, not hard to find lol

[@ilovsleeping]

so it’s trisha’s place to share AMH’s sexual health but when gabbie shared concern for her friend, trisha is like IT’S NO ONE’S PLACE TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER PERSON’S SEXUAL HEALTH!!!!!!!!

[@marysue3439]

@@ilovsleeping It’s really ironic that Trisha is saying that NO ONE should talk about anyone’s sexual history no matter what, but she has alluded that she has got certain STIs from very specific people along the years. It’s wild.

[@ambunnie9972]

Yeah she had clamydia and it went undiagnosed for a long time causing her to have fertility issues

[@grayhatjen5924]

Holy crap, Paytas was so gaslight-y, it got me feeling anxious.

[@strawbabie]

ME TOO

[@LunarCauldron]

Omg same though!

[@meganhill453]

She’s the Queen of gaslighting

[@Duhgel]

When they both started arguing, my brain turned it off, I couldn't understand a thing they were saying without subtitles. I just go "confused" mode whenever this happens

[@minisenzi]

Yes, here's example of two different type of narcs; covert-Gabbie and overt-Trisha (+BP traits imo). If you deep dive into the topic, you'd discover how covert narc actually can be the most dangerous and unpredictable type of narc. Many psychologist ranks covert narcissism being more destructive/dangerous over other cluster B PDs.

[@fountgarde]

How did Trisha get this famous in the first place? Jeez, she’s just about the most annoying person ever 100% of the time. No breaks! How do people like that?

[@strudelh]

@Kaylee people love "problematic faves" 💀

[@Sakine-animate]

pretty sure she originally got famous from her porn, which she got bank from, then started doing Youttube from there. Going into KZbin when you already have a fanbase, then showing your wealth, and THEN becoming a drama YTer makes an easy recipe to get famous online

[@Jo_youwhatmate]

Cos she was part of the old hay days of youtube where being outrageous and stupid was rewarded with views

[@idellekell]

People love a freak show. And we're fascinated by narcissists because their way of thinking and motivations are so different than most other people. It is sort of jarring and scandalous. We can't look away from the train wreck.

[@TheSeaBase]

You can manipulate people into following you too. It's pretty easy if you see the tells of a narc like trish

[@jakestroll6518]

Trisha could easily just take the peace pipe Gabbie is offering but chose war because Gabbie had so many haters. She figures that she can just repeat all the stuff people say about Gabbie and win....even without evidence.

[@FrejaBlight]

Trish seems like a master manipulator. Gabbie is too. The way she gas lighted Jessie Smiles 🤬🤬🤬 Now thats disgusting. Sending love and appreciation! Take care of yourself Boze!

[@nunpho]

Yeah they're as bad as each other

[@edifice3947]

Gabbie agreed to this to learn from the best gaslighter in the business. She’s takin notes.

[@nunpho]

@@edifice3947 gabbie has always been like this, she didn't need any more tips 😅

[@celesteworldbuilding]

Oh please, Jessi Smiles is the biggest gaslighting manipulative piece of shit I have ever seen

[@JoyfulJilly]

I love your statement of "What do you want me to do?? Print out all of my childhood and what I went through??" That statement made me so happy!! I have been watching your videos for about a year now. I love your advice and the content you put out. I have learned so much from you and I have learned why I think some ways and I have learned how to read people better because of you, Thank you!!

[@inste10300]

Gabbie says that everyone's her friend then slams them publicly when they don't treat her the same. Trisha's only goal is to keep generating drama bc that's where the money comes from. They both gaslight and manipulate in their own ways which is why no one likes either of them unironically

[@ashleywilliams4665]

This!

[@hollyhayes9640]

I love their drama... that's pretty much it. 🙃

[@celesteworldbuilding]

This isn't true... Gabbie says people are her friends when she genuinely thinks as much to do a lot of friendly encounters and a lot of hanging out and collabing but will go against them if they decide to publicly turn on her for no reason or for the pettiest reason. She doesn't just randomly go against them, every time she has publicly spoken against someone, that person started it.

[@theSkin_of_a_Killer_Bella]

I’VE REALIZED SOMETHING I THINK. A lot of the people on the internet that we call narcissist always usually remind me of children. Young children (more around 9-12). And they specifically remind me of children because of the way they argue. Idk. They say that children are usually very self centered when young and all that, and genuinely sometimes just don’t know how to reason with themselves or others/don’t know when to accept and admit that they’re wrong. Or have have just “lost”. Their arguments (children) are often messy, and chaotic- and purely because of this idea that they’re not gonna “figure this out”, but instead just “win”.

[@aurora-hd9sw]

I don’t like Gabbie at all but the way Trisha was gaslighting her made me feel bad

[@Anne_Anna21]

Yea they both suck

[@arealbonestealer6425]

On god, she makes Gabbie look like a good person

[@space_charm]

this whole argument reminds me of the two "chill" toxic girls that were "friends" and started drama all the time in middle school lmao

[@blubberbotbeans6978]

For clarification, the story about the herpes wasn't that Gabbie told several of Trisha's friends, it's that she spoke about it with Trisha's bf, who was Gabbie's friend, and a mutual friend was also in the room. Trisha hasn't denied this or claimed there was anyone else afaik, so that should be true. The part that set off the feud publicly is whether it was ok for Gabbie to do it, bc Trisha claims that Gabbie told him "Trish has herpes" while Gabbie claims she told him to talk to her directly since that's what she heard from a reliable source. Later it came out that Shane Dawson was the source, who was Trish's closest (public) friend at the time.

[@dinkymak]

As much as Shane is wrong bout (assuming) exposing it, Trish should’ve told her partner bout it. Nobody would like herpes.

[@noname-gh1vr]

I think another fucked up thing is that so much of the population has herpes (on the mouth) and they just don't realize because it doesn't show symptoms. You can get it from something as simple as sharing a drink.

[@johns1625]

​@@dinkymaknot telling the person you have herpes is no different than just jamming a herpes infected syringe into them. Disgusting on several levels

[@sweetluvgurl]

People always say “it’s not gaslighting” when they are gaslighting and being called out. This whole convo was basically Trisha gaslighting Gabbie.

[@idk-hx1ls]

The fact people genuinely like Trisha is actually so scary

[@immasnakeee6460]

That honestly goes for the both of them. I mean how did either of them even get famous?!

[@timothyo718]

Same can be said for Gabbie. I don’t know how Gabbie has any fans.

[@idk-hx1ls]

@@immasnakeee6460 trueee

[@beatricedorian9908]

Some people start out liking the person without knowing the drama, some feed on it, or some just don't know what to do once they've found out how horrible their KZbinr is :/ I used to be a Mini Ladd fan and I denied everything I heard about him because I was in denial. I grew up watching him play games and admitting he was a predator meant admitting I was supporting/had supported a predator. I've dealt with that and acknowledged it isn't my fault because I didn't know, but even that took a long time for me. I'm not surprised if people are in a similar boat as I was in. It's always a lot easier to bury your head in the sand.

[@zacharytheriot1285]

@@beatricedorian9908 bruh same. i used to deny mini ladds allegations so much. but once i sat down and watched the facts i found myself hating him for his actions and ruining my teenage memories by doing that.

[@kelseesoper4827]

trisha: you’re a character online who i talk about gabbie: but i’m a real human being with feelings trisha: omg but i’ve never even met you in real life did anyone else catch that ?? so she has to meet someone to to respect them and be nice ?? i’m confused

[@gorluralah3734]

If this was Ethan vs Trisha, Trisha would be bawling their eyes out and rant about feeling scared and threatened lmao. I heavily dislike Gabbie, but even she isn't as insane as Trisha is. I hate that people gave Trisha this little redemption arc, but I kinda blame Ethan for it too.

[@burbuja777]

Yup

[@s0ngbirble]

100% agree

[@beanybabyrabie]

Gabby is EQUALLY toxic dude.

[@funya-xw1iw]

@@beanybabyrabiedefinitely not. trisha had a much longer and worse history then gabbie ever has

[@ourladyinred1709]

hey this is off topic, but your videos have helped me see the manipulation used againt me in my day to day life and helped me break the cycle and not exibit those toxic traits to those around me. thank you

[@bigboi301slg]

Love breakdowns like this. You hear about narcissistic traits all the time but to see it in action and broken down piece by piece is awesome.

[@flowerwasteland]

If someone says "I don't even know what else to say to you" they are just telling they aren't taking responsibility for what they did because they don't think they did anything wrong

[@nastasia.x]

The way she eminently denies things that are proven to be true and seems to genuinely believe it’s untrue is actually scary af

[@nunpho]

They're both as bad as each other when you look at them individually (they've both done awful things). Trisha seems to be the dominant one in this conversation. I think these two don't get along because they are so alike.

[@jakestroll6518]

I really don't think Gabbie is anywhere near this level of evil. As far as I know, her biggest scandal is initially disbelieving an ex friends MeToo story. Trisha not only defamed her husbands SA accusers, she's admitted to committing SA on multiple partners AND has years of creeping on underage guys. Trisha is 💯 narcissist. Just a level of her own.

[@skulletorable]

Yeah nah gabble is no where near as controversial and horrible as Trisha. And I don’t think Trisha is dominant in this convo, it’s obvious she is gaslighting and manipulating and when gabbie brings up anything relevant and correct, she snuffs it off and brings up something else.

[@heathern8043]

@@jakestroll6518 idk have you watched jessismiles videos about what gabbie did, it was way more messed up than just not believing her

[@hoolhyoh]

I just like watching this two argue lmao. They deserve each other- narcissist vs. narcissist.

[@mpho242]

Nah cause Trisha actually SCARES me. I watched that podcast and even now watching it on here, gave me A LOT of anxiety. I watched it and unknowingly started rocking back and forth, shaking, breathing faster and my heart beating like crazy. Trisha's words and expressions in that podcast literally made me go into my shell and it sparked some heavy childhood trauma. 😭😭😭

[@DantyProp]

Trisha overwhelms me so much! Triggers my anxiety like no other 😩

[@maddyp2571]

This is so crazy to watch, especialy after learning about NPD in my psych class, i feel like its one thing analyzing case studies, vs seeing it yourself even through a video

[@armetta99]

I feel like I’m the only person in the world that doesn’t think Gabby is horrible for messaging Jason letting him know what I’ve heard… given her lying history as well as sort of glazing over having incurable STDs, I think it was warranted to let Jason know in private. If I were in Jason’s position I’d hope a friend would do the same

[@supergingerr]

OMG yes! It’s not like Gabbie say it in a malicious way either, she was just informing a friend. I don’t understand how that’s a bad thing. It’s not like she gave a full run down of Trisha’s medical history.

[@retana0612]

She should have gone to Trisha first or not talked about it, it was a rumor and that’s kind of rude! I understand your point though!

[@ivonbarrios2960]

But it’s a little trashy to say it in front of Jason AND david

[@jadethirlwall1573]

She didn’t say it in private. She said it in front of Jason and David Dobrik. That’s no longer giving your friend a heads up but spreading rumours - also if Tricia and her were supposedly friends, why didn’t she go to Tricia first?

[@idellekell]

@@retana0612 It wasn't a rumor, though. I just recently saw a clip where she literally says "I got an std. The incurable kind". I mean, I'm pretty sure she doesn't have HIV, so it's probably herpes or warts. I think maybe it was on the latest Mysterious video about her. I'll post a link if I come across it! I wouldn't put it past her to have herpes and NOT inform new partners. They deserve to know

[@evonyevans]

Lol I love how excited and intense you get when you catch on to the negative behavior that’s happening like if it’s happening to you!

[@eldenringnew]

This is a perfect example of manipulation using emotional language vs logical language.

[@T2Master01]

I just discovered your show and I love how you point out narcissism in these videos. Its definitely very important to increase awareness on narcissism for those who are vulnerable via lack of knowledge. Thank you.

[@Trinsospiffy]

My thing is I'm tired of people shaming Gabbie for looking out for a friend. Trisha multiple times stated she had or has sexual transmitted diseases publicly in her videos. So yeah if I want to tell my friend "Hey watch out she has some type of disease be careful" then maybe I am a bad person and friend. Trisha is very vindictive and cruel.

[@reilly4678]

this is something i hardly see mentioned! She literally publicly discussed her sexual health, so even if Gabby hadn't heard it from a friend, it was not a secret and she was just telling someone Trisha was sleeping with so they would be careful, it's not like she randomly was telling everyone Trisha knows

[@lauren7622]

Recently came across your channel and love that you call out narcissists and gaslighting. I just got out of an abusive relationship, so I appreciate this.

[@sydposting]

You know that song, “I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas?” I got a new version for you: “I Got a ‘Boze Roasts Narcissists’ for Christmas~” You remain the most insightful commentary channel on here, I love it.

[@ednagaley7239]

That sounds like a great song

[@crystalxgalaxy543]

🎶And only a “narcissistic fight” will doOoOo🎶

[@ilovsleeping]

i would like to just say that gabbie didn’t just “tell some friends” that trisha had herpes. gabbie was good friends with trisha’s partner at the time, and under the assumption that they were sleeping together, she said to the partner “hey, i heard trisha had herpes. you might want to get checked out.” i am not a fan of gabbie, i think she is a HORRIBLE person, but she was just looking out for the health of her friend. she was not gossiping.

[@smalllazycrow3833]

Trisha’s the last boss that drove us insane as kids

[@serenarobbins5496]

I’m so happy you make videos like this. Literally the first time I’ve watched that interview with Gabbie and Trisha, I felt confused and didn’t really understand who was in the wrong. Thank you for being so informative and using terms like “boundary pushing” “ego”, etc. Especially as someone who has have a difficult time identifying those narcissistic traits in people. This was very helpful, absolutely love your videos. ❤️😌✨

[@yayaaabunni]

I used to be a Narcissist when I was younger (14-19 I’m 24 now) but I became that to protect myself from people who were worse than me. It took me a LONGGGG time to realize I was becoming the person I was trying to protect myself from. I had to do years of therapy before I broke that cycle. I’m able to see that behavior in others and OMG Gabby is a huge Narcissist but Trisha is bigger and sneakier than Gabby - because she plays “dumb” and embodies her “troll” persona all day so people focus on that and ignore her horrible Narcissistic behavior.

[@bucketonfoot]

I wouldn’t say that you were a “narcissist”, we all had extremely selfish views, lack of self awareness, and not knowing how our actions effect others when we were younger. Kids are going to be selfish and only see things from their point of view.

[@Margatatials]

unfortunately Narcissists bring out the narcissistic traits in their victims. the Narc will absorb all the empathy, friendliness and consideration from the person and leave them with nothing but there most selfish traits to protect themself when interacting with the rest of the world. so sorry that happened to you

[@blazaybla22]

@@bucketonfoot You’re treating the word narcissist like it just means “bad”. It is a clinical term of analysis. She saw these traits in herself and worked to better herself, that’s extremely commendable and courageous and super rare for people with narcissistic tendencies to do. We are only just now starting to deconstruct the stigma around antisocial/sociopathic conditions such that people can admit to it and feel supported. Eventually we will have to get to that place with narcissism because at the moment it’s uniquely resistant to psychiatric treatment.

[@blazaybla22]

OP something that you touched on that I don’t think is widely understood is that narcissism is perceived as just moral bankruptcy or opportunistic and it’s so much more than that; it is very often a result of trauma (I 100% believe Trisha suffered CSA from her stepfather) and, like antisocial disorders, it is very maladaptive (ie though people who have it may benefit in the short term, it ultimately creates worse situations for them in the long run but it is a personality disorder when they literally are incapable of seeing that without treatment). It is because trauma creates a fragility of ego such that the brain seeks to protect it at all costs. I’m very glad you not only saw this in yourself but that you stuck with treatment and even though I don’t know you I’m proud of you for admitting to it considering how it’s in the process of replacing sociopathy as the pop psych byword for “bad person.”

[@sammyg9943]

i think it’s great that you’ve done a lot of work on yourself op, but i don’t believe that you can stop being a narcissist if you were actually diagnosed with npd. also, trisha has stated publicly several times that she’s been diagnosed with bpd and not npd, so i don’t think it’s right for people without a background in psychology to continually refer to her as a narcissist. it’s also a huge reason why there’s so much stigma attached to different types of personality disorders. the amount of misinformation being spread is not helping anyone

[@ceeloanders5481]

Watching this is like reliving every argument I had with my ex best friend. No matter what receipts I had I was always wrong and crazy and the receipts didn't matter if she refused to look at them. I didn't even realize how much she gaslit me until I got away. If you're watching this and you recognize this behaivor in someone you know please drop them, you will be so much happier without them!!

[@heyitsalannaluv]

It's funny she gets mad at Gabbie about her telling Jason about the std when Trisha said it on KZbin for years! Please watch the mysterious series!!

[@saratronus]

Trisha has literally made storytime videos talking about how she got so many ST d's when she was sleeping around And has no idea who gave it to her She posted that shit online herself But when someone asks her about it or talks to other people about it she gets pissed Make it make sense

[@jb4000]

I love your takes! Great video. I side with Gabby in this particular situation but both of them are such awful, vile human beings with no sense of self-awareness or the ability to take accountability for their toxic behavior. It is hilarious how much they hate each other when they are practically the same person.

[@77devon]

oh trust me they're self aware, at least i feel like gabby is smart enough to be self aware, however certain narcissistic traits actually come in handy for the person and they might not be ready to let go of those yet. i believe gabby will be ready for her transformation sooner rather than later but i don't have a whole lotta faith in trish unfortunately i think she's too stubborn to let go of these self serving trails

[@ShanKatOD]

After all the recaps, I understand this now. Trisha’s OWN WORDS were “incurable sexual disease” in her old vlog. She said it. Period. Gabbie’s fatal mistake was saying she heard it from a friend, and not saying she saw it in Trisha’s vlogs in the first place, where we all saw it in the first place. Gabbie not wanting to admit she followed Trisha’s vlogs was the early problem, Gabbie wanted to seem like she had inside info. She didn’t, she saw the same info everyone who was watching back then saw. Trisha created this herself, like all her drama. Self created.

[@SH-py7qj]

She actually heard it from Shane Dawson

[@celesteworldbuilding]

@@SH-py7qj Literally. Even Trisha has admitted to confronting Shane about it and Shane never denies it...

[@JloA7x]

Thank you for hitting the topic of narcissism in women.

[@helen.faunway]

This whole feud reminds me of the slogan for the movie Alien vs Predator: "whoever wins, we lose" LOL but for once I am 100% on Gabbie's side here. They're both really petty, manipulative people, but damn Trish is on another level

[@sa-rang_hae]

I have learned so much from your videos, maybe it’s the way you explain things and make them more simple but yet so intriguing

[@amiemariecreative163]

This is the second time I heard you talk about what the word weird means, this time in a slightly different context. I wanna say, I seriously appreciate that! Words are so important and a lot of people don't realize what they are saying and the effect it has on others, as well as themselves. I recently found your channel from your Johnny Depp trial commentary videos and I adore how open and clear you are about communication, as well as how you think objectively, but are also very passionate about the things you clearly believe in. As well as being hilarious IMO

[@arivince]

I would love to see Boze go through Trisha’s videos regarding drama. Absolutely love it. It might take 5 hours but i would sip that tea so hard

[@hayleyelizabeth7895]

The power struggle!!!😂😂 Trisha came in thinking she was going to control the whole thing. Gabby figured out she was trying to control shit and she took back control and when Trisha figured that out she got triggered af

[@LOOSECANNONN]

a lot of things trish says and tries to manipulate with body language pisses me off but oddly enough the most infuriating thing is seeing her paper pale arms compared to the orange oompa loompa bronzer on her face

[@Doodlecream]

I hate that this is one of my comfort videos

[@solidagold115]

The most hurtful thing, especially in a relationship is when your partner says "I don't know what to say, I am free of guilt" or just not even acknowledging WHAT you are saying. Saying stuff like "that is not true, I love you". The worst one is the silence treatment. It is just so uncomfortable, especially when finally daring to criticize or just saying what bothers you and then getting NOTHING back. Either way, talking with a narcissist makes you feel like everything was adressed and talked out in the best case, but later on you slowly realize nothing got sorted out and nothing changed.

[@xhappybunnyx]

The scariest part of seeing people like these have power and a platform is realizing the only thing you can do to stop them is forget about them, never comment on any of their shit, and hope others do the same so they can go away.

[@ElanaVital83]

Grey rock big time

[@hsmorg3640]

Gabbie only told Jason about the herpes, Trisha's then boyfriend, or at least person she's sleeping with, and Gabbie's then close friend.. Gabbie was looking out for her friend, and warning him just in case.. Trisha went and made it public shortly after to cause drama

[@jadethirlwall1573]

Gabbie told David Dobrik too. It wasn’t giving your friend a heads up, it was spreading rumours

[@marysue3439]

@@jadethirlwall1573 David was in the room because Jason and him have this weird codependent relationship. Trisha was the only one who made it public (to the mass populace) then blamed Gabbie for it when she has been the one who has made it public.

[@jadethirlwall1573]

@@marysue3439 lmao them having a weird codependent relationship doesn’t make gossiping about your friend and spreading pretty awful rumours better tf

[@marysue3439]

@@jadethirlwall1573 It’s not gossip or rumors if A) you’re worried that you’re close friends life is in DANGER. STIs are no joke and some can negatively impact your life FOREVER. There’s a reason is a crime to transmit them without someone’s knowledge. B) Trisha was the one who made it public. Trisha talked FOR YEARS about her incurable STD. She has mentioned her vagina stinking several times. It’s not a rumor if it’s coming right from the horses mouth. The reality of the situation is, Gabbie didn’t make this public, Trisha did. Trisha is mad at Gabbie for something SHE did.

[@jadethirlwall1573]

@@marysue3439 that’s blatantly false. Considering Gabby claims that she and Tricia were friends at the time, she should’ve gone to Tricia to confirm first - if she was so concerned about Jason, she should’ve told him privately, instead of in front of other people (that’s gossiping, not informing your friend of your concerns). Gabby made the rumours public when she posted DMs of the convo with Tricia while making it easily identifiable who she was speaking to, which is what prompted Tricia to make a video. She did not have any verifiable information that Tricia had an STI - and she had no knowledge of whether Jason knew, since it’s none of her business anyways?? they’re grown adults, let them handle their business, and again if she was really that concerned, she should’ve discussed it with Tricia first to see if it was true before blindly spreading it

[@SaidiLouise]

3:43 I know someone who has never taken responsibility for a damn thing. Their favorite phrase is "________ is acting weird" whenever their help/assistance from (whoever blank is) runs out.

[@justpeter5690]

BOZE I used to love watching you on smosh but honestly this content is so much better and honestly therapeutic. I'm always uncomfortable around certain types of personalities and watching your video on this and the stephanie soo one is SO HELPFUL in understanding like. yes. these people DO warrant this type of caution and the way you're helping me articulate the wording and understanding why certain types of people are being manipulative (intended or not) is truly a blessing. Happy New Year!

[@youngfadeaway7099]

The way u dissect psychology in these videos is amazing 🙏

[@linlin150209]

This is triggering me a bit. A family member has said some of these exact things to me (and in the same aggressive manner). She´s even tried to make it seem like I´M the one who said something crazy that SHE told ME. And when presented with solid evidence, she tries to turn it into a difference of opinion or tells me I´m being disrespectful. Or she´ll just scream at me to stop talking. One of the best things I´ve ever done is start journaling to record these incidents. It may not help me communicate with her, but it does keep me from feeling crazy every time she gaslights me.

[@anib8863]

Sorry to hear that.

[@sweetluvgurl]

A family member does that to me, too. Literally, I’d state a traumatic thing they said to me, and they would be like “I don’t agree.” How do you not agree on reality on something that happened? Narcs are weird. They create this alternate reality. There’s no getting through to them. You have to realize that and don’t really expect much for them and realize it’s them not you.

[@sweetluvgurl]

Also, the best thing I can recommend is to at the very least keep a distance from that person if possible or very limited communication. Try not to be very personal or vulnerable with them. I know it’s hard, especially in certain relationships, but it’s really the best thing you can do for yourself.

[@PenguinNinja45]

8:18 It wasn't Trisha's friends, it was her boyfriend (now ex. Jason Nash) saying "Trisha has herpes". Trisha has proven this is false. Then Gabbie Hanna posted a general poll "Is it okay to tell a friend whos in a relationship about their partners STDs". She then forgot to blur Trisha's name on the story which started this whole drama

[@frick7896]

the way trish looked my gabbie is the way my mom looked at me when i called her out on her bs

[@frick7896]

like everytime.. and when i saw that face i knew more bs was cooooming ☺️

[@undisclosedmeatwallet487]

Watching two narcissistic manipulators argue with eachother is fascinating. I agree that Trisha is basically a final boss as far as manipulators go, because holy fuck. At this point, she might be gaslighting herself

[@itadori2869]

As someone who has grow up around a lot of narciccistic people and has learn the way they think and understand the world I KNOW that I could beat trisha in an argumend

[@itzeliej7772]

She would explode and walk out lol like she did with Ethan. And blame it on her BP or something/ someone else.

[@ndr6495]

but why would you want to? you'd have to use narcissistic, manipulative tactics yourself to do so and even then they won't actually see you as right in the end... b/c it is in their pathology not to

[@tear_tea]

You cant win against a narcissist. They will do ANYTHING to make it seem like they have the upper hand and will resort to childish methods to win

[@ndr6495]

@@tear_tea exactly, if you're seeing things as 'winning and losing' with a narcissist, they've already won. you 'win' by not engaging

[@AnnoyingTiger888]

I've heard you say this a few times so I thought I'd chime in with my opinion. When someone feels weird or says something is weird, in my opinion, they mean "this doesn't feel right, this feels strange, etc."

[@ElanaVital83]

Nah that's not what she's talking about.

[@courtneyr6645]

Exactly

[@pb5824]

Gabbies face was a jumpscare tbh 💀

[@bucketonfoot]

And it’s not even her looks, whenever I see her face I remember all the horrible stuff she’s done at once.

[@pb5824]

@@bucketonfoot + her singing 💀💀💀

[@LunastormCat]

“We’re not gonna agree on this” *gabbie has actual text conversations and posts* *trisha continues to disagree with facts*

[@Carols989]

this is literally what I needed after dealing with an outburst from my narcissistic parents

[@caiawren6100]

Putting it into the context of a conversation between two coworkers is interesting...bc there are definitely coworkers out there who try to gaslight and distract from their own mistakes and undermine the corrections made by others lol (I had a similar convo just last week)

[@raniii8492]

literally was binging your videos then came across a new vid....thx for the consistent uploads and hard work

[@GreenGeeky]

My new years goal is so cheesy and cliché but it's to lose weight. I gained 40 pounds when I had my daughter. It's been a year, I've worked through my ppd. Now it's time to take control of my health. My husband started his journey and he's been such an inspiration for me! Wish me luck bozos because this woman loves her pizza and ice cream 😩

[@TrillVinity]

Lmao love the honesty good luck homie you got it 🤙🏾

[@precioustorres7043]

hi! i love the on screen captions! i’m sure that takes forever so thanks for the effort!!!

[@vickster97]

Loving the content lately! Keep it up Boze and editors ❤️

[@KimberleySamantha999]

Narcissists usually don't fight other narcissists, they're playing on the same team. They pick empaths as their target, because empaths don't know how to handle their narcissism and will take blame and even will call themselves the narcissist. Narcissists already know all the tricks in the book and won't even engage with other narcissists, in fact it's scary for them. The entire game of narcissism is manipulating empaths into thinking they're the problem.

[@nelladongen9659]

THE FIRST DAMN LINES WAS ALREADY GAS LIGHTING--

[@lorimitchell5899]

I saw the vid you did on Parker, now this one. Gooorl, I think I found my new favorite channel to binge. Go awf, the tea is boiling!!

[@Jo_youwhatmate]

Wow.....never actually thought I'd see myself feeling sorry for Gabbie but here we are

[@chefleen1254]

I think everybody should remember that gabbie hanna made a public snapchat asking all of her followers whether it was ok or not to go to someone’s boyfriend and tell them that their girlfriend might have herpes. Before this it was a private conversation between gabbie and Trisha but Gabbie IS the one that effectively made it public and prompted a public response.

[@celesteworldbuilding]

No she wasn't? She made a hypothetical situation to see if people would agree with her, which isn't making the situation public. By Trisha outwardly talking about it, she made it public first. Using a real life scenario to make a hypothetical situation to get opinion on is not the same as making a situation public

[@MajickkShow]

dood i never expected to feel sympathy for Gabby ... wth

[@Mirtiniuus]

Omg they are both manipulative and they are trying it on eachother 😂😂😂😂 i love this. They have met their match. Its like putting a wall against a wall

[@princesslunaxoxo]

As much as I dislike both of them I'm more on Gabbie's side because Trisha did this similar to nickocado avocado (which I also dislike) and also was like they never were friends or that they spoke. But since then they squashed that but I feel like there's something else we really do not know why they truly hate each other still continue this "drama"/"argument". It also comes to the point where they do it to either who has the last word and also for attention and views.

[@bethanyxinsanewarriorx6548]

Oh thank goodness a channel that talks about it in face value instead of picking sides and villanizing the other. I've been trying to understand this drama but it doesn't make sense and there are so many channels that hates either Trisha/Gabbie and put their opinions in it and it gets overwhelming. So thank God. I hope you do more tho. Cuz I really like Gabbie. I've been watching her since like 2015 or something so yeye.

[@ashleynacole011]

jessi smiles

[@celinasjourney]

Honestly I’ve watched all the drama, especially with gabbie Hanna, and in the end I subscribed to gabby, because I think things just always turn out as a misunderstanding for her. Ahh. I mean yea some things are questionable but you have to understand context, and the fact that it’s another persons entire life. Every little thing a person has to deal with as well.

[@rainnabanes7538]

My God, you have no idea how much this comment made my day. Gabbie makes mistakes, every person does. I certainly do. But it kills me to see how people on the internet live and breathe to rip her apart. I have no issue with people who choose not to like her. But the amount of people I see that go out of their way to destroy her... it breaks my fucking heart. "Normal" people don't have to deal with scrutiny to this degree and it feels so unfair to me when people cling to every single mistake she makes. Especially when they preach about mental health but can NEVER comprehend what she might actually be feeling.

[@justhearmeout3959]

This is exactly why you never find two narcissists in a close relationship, friends or otherwise lmao

[@camilap.8096]

The toxicity- I can’t