The NBA Player Who FAKED His Identity?

[@AndyHoops]

Here's a video I made of 5 NBA players who were involved in scandals during college! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ6vimWfn7iClaM

[@shizoshizo5954]

2:21 - 2:36 the man who faked Uzbekistan as Afghanistan and Pakistan

[@razkable]

My 4 favorite foreign names in the nba... Ersan Ilyazova!!! Gustavo Ayon Nikola Vucevic and of course Za Za Pachulia ..

[@mjada76]

Boo fuck you nah I am joking I totally agree with you

[@tracemelching1513]

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[@coltonsimms5026]

The man just wanted to play basketball, he justed wanted to live in a safe country. I dont blame him

[@ahmetfatihss]

Turkey is way safer country man.

[@visioneit2436]

Also ,he is kipchak Turk(Tatar) , majority of anatolian Turks are oghuz Turks.. So it is not big difference same race.. It's kinda migration from england to australia or us..

[@muratturan2636]

Turkey's peace index is 3.015 while USA is 2.401 so there's not much of a huge difference. The problem with Turkey is with the unstable borders while USA only have 2 borders... If he was in Canada or Scandinavian countries, i would say ok but for USA ? LMAO.

[@gavinliebnick1011]

Anyone creeped out by the music ...

[@barsason1]

yeah it is creepy

[@GReefercreeper]

+Adam Leon I nutted to it get on my level

[@chillbill4447]

Cowboys4Life yeah, for some reason the story and the music are lol

[@daddy9971]

Cowboys4Life me

[@diegotapanes8180]

me

[@metecubukcu6301]

I'm türkish and i heard such similar stories from basketball coaches here, and he doesn't speak türkish fluently and his face seems like he is from near uzbekistan or those countries so i believe it's true

[@metecubukcu6301]

i made a little bit of research after my comment like you said it's not a secret that he is older in reality and also i looked up couple posts from 2005-2009 and they prove your theory. even kaan kural wrote something similar to your theory who is the most respected basketball commentator in turkey

[@metecubukcu6301]

i mean andy hoops' theory when i say your theory

[@orhonnamsiz4318]

hayir kardesim, he doesn't look Uzbek, ben uyghur ve uzbek, he doesn't look like us.

[@beratoren7627]

Even five fingers dont look same so how do you tell by senses :(

[@y0ujellybr0]

Yooo my girl is from Uzbekistan, but he looked nothing like an uzbek, he even looks a little off for a Turk.

[@aBrocodile]

I am from Turkey and I think the story is like this, he is from Uzbekistan he is a talented basketball player but the sports infrastructure is not good in Uzbekistan so he comes to Turkey, becomes Turkish to play on Turkish national team which is definetely better than Uzbekistan national team. Only thing suspicious is his age cause I thought he was older as well. Becoming Turkish to play on a national sports team occurs rather often in Turkey, especially from neighbour countries or even US. A player previously named Bobby Dixon is the star of the Turkish national basketball team.

[@rileyhall648]

Brocodile BobbyDixonisa different story entirely than what went on here

[@lincoln8530]

So how old is he ???

[@kayacankavakli5590]

evet de sonuçta türkiyede eskişehirde doğuyor türkiyede yetişiyor büyüyor türk basketbol altyapısında kariyerine başlıyor ve oradan gelişiyor ve ttürkçee konuşuyor yani öz be öz türk sayılır. kırım tatar özbek kökeli asıllı olması bu gerçeği değiştirmez.

[@akmalkhamraev462]

Ilyasov Arsen is from Bukhara, Uzbekistan and he was my classmate and my neighbor, we studied in secondary school #8 of Bukhara and trained basketball at the same school and even participated in 2001 in basketball competition for "Olimpiada Umidlari" (from Uzbek language "Olympic hopes") which was held in Tashkent and we represented our Bukhara school in this competitions and took only 4th place. His real birthday is September 21, 1984.

[@gerryxavier8833]

That's amazing, bro! You were his classmate?

[@Connorlahaie]

He faked his identity and went as James Franco

[@___simrat]

I mean at least be more creative with the name lol

[@RedCardinalLP]

it's like ben kenobi in star wars xd

[@kingjames642]

Scott Mescudi fr lmao

[@evan9759]

Ersan Vagpeia

[@epi6581]

Simrat Singh Who knows maybe it was the other way around and the fact that these 2 similar names existed lead to the invention of this story

[@Utbuscus]

if it was a fake id they would be more creative. even a three year old knows that. thats the strongest thing against this theory. if he was faking it he would change his name to something compeletely different.

[@azamani7]

I am from Turkey and played basketball in youth teams. This story is 100 percent correct and was known among players. In fact, there are lots of stories like Ersan. Enes Kanter is also listed 2 years younger and thats a known fact. He was actually born in 1990.

[@will326]

The story is so light but the music makes me scared as shit

[@aa11playsandvlogs40]

Will0804 me either

[@balltalk6272]

This is dope dude! Great work!

[@aninag9407]

Ball Talk love your channel bro

[@aninag9407]

Bianka lovell no who are you

[@TheSTWS]

Dude barely changed his name how'd he get away with this for so long lmao

[@utkcm]

TheSTWS i heard it before. this is known

[@feelsgoodman9751]

even if he's 33 he good so who gives a shit

[@halitalihankaraks7998]

Becouse if your family is in danger, its okey to change your name. I mean you can even change your name becouse you dont like it, in turkey you can change surnames if there is a good reason ( and ozbekistan was a hell that time, if you run away they see you as a triator, so they might change it not to get cought). About his age part tho who gives a shit he plays ok :)

[@wilson6448]

Because there are so many ppl, you don't have to change your name that much. I know someone whose grandma changed her last name by a single letter lol

[@kaidentaylor1920]

Love ya content keep grinding bro

[@okike.4573]

watching this alone in my room 2am with that scary background music good night guys!

[@vadimnikee]

I heard that he is crimean tatar. In Uzbekistan lived many tatars in 80-s and almost all of them lives in Crimen now, and his parents too - but in this case i think it is lie

[@BigRamzy]

As someone who is actually interested in Turkish basketball I know that his parents are from Uzbekistan, there is no denying this. His Turkish is not very fluent, for me to hear him speak Turkish is probably the same as for an American to hear him speak English. Ersan is a typical male first name in Turkey, Ilyas (Elias in English) is also a typical Turkish name. Ova means plain or lowland in Turkish. So both names are Turkish.

[@Tasos_]

The name Ilya actually have greek roots and it's a christian name comes from the prophet Ilya.

[@nvthedream1008]

Don't disrespect Down To Buck like that

[@LostLakeTribune]

the nations of Uzbekistan and Turkey do not border in any way, shape, or form, get your geography straight first

[@juliakrzywicka4144]

He was born in uzbekistan but he grow up in turkey. His family from turkey also

[@thisrandomboy999]

LostLakeTribune u can travel by sea

[@ertegin]

@@thisrandomboy999 uzbekistan has no sea connections lol

[@wadeem5329]

@@ertegin also to add to it Uzbekistan is the only double landlocked ctry in the world which means that it is bordered only by landlocked ctrys 😂👌

[@STONESOGOATED]

Technically he's still the same person..

[@azrayucel6784]

I’m Turkish, and I remember hearing this guys name when my husband was watching a basketball game, and he told me that Ersan is Turkish, and I remember giving my husband a weird look because I’m very familiar with last names and I knew that the name ilyasova is Uzbek, also he looks Uzbek too, so I just brushed it off thinking that maybe his mother is Turkish and his father is Uzbek, but he is definitely not a hundred percent Turkish, not with that last name.

[@kayacankavakli5590]

evet de sonuçta türkiyede eskişehirde doğuyor türkiyede yetişiyor büyüyor türk basketbol altyapısında kariyerine başlıyor ve oradan gelişiyor ve ttürkçee konuşuyor yani öz be öz türk sayılır. kırım tatar özbek kökeli asıllı olması bu gerçeği değiştirmez.

[@visioneit2436]

Doesn't matter.. İlyasova is kipchak Turk.. Majority of anatolian Turks are oghuz.. So it is same race. Kinda migration from uk to us or australia

[@thetopg3295]

I LOVE THIS GUY MEN I LOVE HIS PLAYING STYLE

[@callumjames84]

Nigga ur scaring me

[@jaedincassius9383]

Callum James lol

[@aninag9407]

Ikr

[@callumjames84]

I'm brown

[@lorenzocruz282]

Callum James

[@Robert-bv4zj]

Callum James your playlist lied to me, this is no longer top comment

[@NoneYa42069]

I'd like to drink a beer with Ersan. Mainly so that I can get him drunk and hope he spills some secrets. 😉

[@travisross4119]

Grew up in Wisconsin loved ersan on the bucks for years. Crazy to hear this for the first time

[@DenizCDemir]

problem is that it's not a secret he's originally from uzbekistan. everyone in turkey knows this simply because his surname is not turkey turkish. also any player in any sports can play for any national team regardless of his/her nationality as long as the person did not play for a different national team before. as far as the name change goes that's what people do when they become turkish citizens. off the top of my head brazilian football player marco aurelio became a turkish citizen, changed his name to mehmet aurelio and played for the turkish national football team. there are hundreds of examples for this in every sport. so this is all normal. the only thing i'm unsure of is his age but i'm pretty sure nba teams would do medical tests in order to determine player's ages especially if there's some suspicion involved.

[@OkanKilinc]

Deniz Demir ne güzel ingilizce konuşuyon ya. Nerede, ne kadar sürede öğrendin?

[@Tony-bored-dane]

Doing a quick google search, you could do tests for age, but they have a plus or minus error of 5 years. So doesn’t really help

[@sk8erbyern]

@@Tony-bored-dane age doesn't really matter anyway. Some players fall off faster around 33 some around 40 it doesn't matter. Even if his age is off by 15 years all that matters is his performance in the game.

[@DutchTurkish]

First of all, ilyas is a Turkish name Secondly, ova is valley in the Turkish language So ilyasova means, the valley of ilyas or the ilyas valley. none needs to change their identity to play for another country, there are dozen of American players that play for the national teams all across the world. Who cares whether he is Turkish born or Uzbeki born, he grew up in Turkey as a basketball player and plays for Turkey.

[@Demosc0ut]

DutchTurkish I always wondered how he could be Ilyasova as a man, as -a is usually (russian for example) a feminine ending for words and Ilya is a slavic name

[@muraturla]

Ova means lowland in English. ova in Ilyasova is a suffix which is used in ex-Soviet countries, Russia and Bulgaria and i think it has a different meaning than lowland; it might mean "the son of".

[@malcolmy8445]

ÖZBEKİSTAN’DA HALK RUSÇA SOYADI ALMAYA ZORLANIYOR Özbekistan’da nüfus kaydı idareleri yeni doğan çocuklara Özbekçe soyadı verilmesini reddediyor. Pasaport almak isteyenlere ise isimlerdeki milli ek olan -i, zade, oğlu ya da kızı gibi eklerin kullanılmasına devlet idareleri izin vermiyor. Özbek dili devlet dili olarak kabul edildikten sonra vatandaşlara milli soyadı verilmesi kanunlaştırılmıştı. Buna rağmen nüfus kaydı idareleri yeni doğanlara Rusça “ov” ya da “ova” ekli soyisimleri (erkeklere Kerimov, kızlara Kerimova gibi) dayatmaya devam ediyor... Sen Turkiye`de dogup buyuyen hic kimseye "....ova " soyismi verildigini duydun mu ? ben 30 sene yasadim o ulkede; ne duydum, ne gordum.

[@malcolmy8445]

Ova it isn't valley in the turkish language; ova is "plain" in turkish language. Valley means in turkish language "vadi "

[@MuazCannabissativaMCMXCIV]

do not think very complicated, everybody knows in Turkey that he speaks turkish with russian accent. And who cares if he is a Turk who was born in Turkey or in another Turkic state

[@tfi4310]

Is it just me or was the first round of the playoffs more intense and competitive than the actual finals?

[@henrystowell9287]

"Uzbekish"😂😂😂

[@wannabejaylenbrown9849]

This video was good, very interesting 10/10

[@masterq42_85]

How have you gotten so many subs so quick congratulations

[@martycoleman3801]

Thank You for doing this I wanted to see a video on this guy

[@jon_gotteiner7169]

Lesser known brothers

[@gokhanbayram]

"Ova" means plain in Turkish. There are lots of places in Turkey ending with "-ova" (Çukurova, Yüksekova, Korukova, Çayırova, Artova). plus place names usually used as surnames in Turkey (u can easily check this fact with a quick facebook search). Maybe İlyasova has Uzbek origin but his name can not be an evidence of true identiy of him.

[@sohotserhat]

That is actually true. Ive played basketball against him at younger age groups in the past. He was playing for ulker at that time. He had a huge height and age advantage over his opponents, he was one of the few if not the only player who could dunk at that age. They even had a specialized aleyoop gameplay for him.

[@serdarbozkurt8544]

the real story is he is crimean tatar origin. his family are crimean tatar turks. during stalin era of soviet union they forcefully deployed to uzbekistan. scout from ulkerspor reach the guy and organize a turkish passport for him. in turkish passport he is from eskisehir city in turkey. this city mostly inhabited by crimean tatar origin people. so this is that simple. not an illuminati shit:)

[@fatihtopcu5900]

Yes it's true he is from Özbekistan but his nationality is Turkish( özbek turkish). His age could be wrong but nationality is true. He is Turkish.

[@austinsties6534]

Damn I remember just a couple of weeks ago you were at 2k now you're at 22k. Funny how quickly people can grow

[@LegendOfKhaos12]

Damn. Crazy where is now

[@MigrantsChronicles]

U r right. I’m from Uzbekistan, and my coach used to play with Arsen Ilyasov in Bukhara.

[@pewdsis2good636]

can u find this andy hoops plz

[@matlihan]

Wow, Detective Nick, you really cracked the case of the century with some amazing journalism by referring to a lame article that definitely provided evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@HototoManyGoats]

Give props to the man, he went through hell and back to get to where he is today.

[@ilumnjelly4693]

You the best Andy hoops

[@visioneit2436]

He is kipchak Turk (Tatar) , majority of anatolian Turks are oghuz Turks.. so doesn't matter same race..

[@TopitopHOCA]

Acually im from Turkey and all you say is meanless and Ersan has a meaning in Turkish

[@Raygun34]

why does it matter? if you where in the same situation what would you do?

[@crispynigga6185]

Why you gotta put creepy music in the background.

[@Jayt33]

What's the name of the creepy soundtrack?

[@AndyHoops]

I put it in the description

[@rbx22]

the entire central asia is full of turks with soviet surnames, some are from mongolian tribes others turkic and so on... it's very common for them to identy themselfs as turks but speak russian, turkish etc.

[@Maarcis12]

@Andy Hoops this kinda reminds of Jake Tsakalidis, a greek/georgian NBA player, who later admitted that he faked the name and nationality. Basically he admitted that his real name is Alex Lentkov who is actually born in Novosibirsk, Russia, not Rustavi, Georgia and had no greek ancestry. Maybe you might make a video on him.

[@noorcoticsupreme]

I like hearing these unusual random storirs. u should do one of Zach Randolph.

[@hamburgerdan101]

Weird I saw the thumbnail on instantly recognize his face. I actually just got back from the Atlanta Hawks game it was terrible we were down by 18 points against the bulls at one point we went on till later lose that game. BTW the Atlanta Hawks fucking suck you can tell they're trying to rebuild the franchise They kept Dennis got rid of Milsap and the other dude I don't really follow basketball and this is my first NBA game. It was an experience but I kind a wish I watch them when they made playoffs runs instead of them going 15 and 32. Dennis looks promising but you can't really carry a team on a 23-year-old's back just doesn't happen

[@jpmnky]

This is far more common than any of us realize I'm guessing. Especially young people from war torn areas of the world.

[@freestyler45]

Being 33 or 30 doesnt matter,hes still playing at a high level, most American player quit playing at 28 after getting paid.

[@Portlandfan1996]

Thanks for the video, that’s very interesting. Everyone in Uzbekistan is aware of him, we’re glad to have, at least, one player in NBA. I want to correct you if you aren’t against. We didn’t have any Islamic movements in Uzbekistan. There was an attempt as a terroristic act but nothing more, the situation has always been stable, fortunately! So the only reason that made Arsen leave our county was the opportunity to show up cause it’s pretty easier to represent yourself from Turkey rather than Uzbekistan. So...unfortunately it happened in that way but we’re glad that our land could give a basketball world a pure talent!

[@KJ-cv1vj]

Why u got that Faze Rug music?

[@spiritualjordan5876]

What is this song called

[@Ben-tl6qo]

Ive been here since 200 subs and this comment will prove ive been here when andy hits 100k

[@umurify]

I played professional basketball in ages of 7 to 16 in Turkey. It is pretty common for big clubs at the time like Ülker or Efes Pilsen to recruit young guys from the Balkans and the Caucasus. We had to play against these giant non Turkish guys who were at least 2-3 years older than us and it was very obvious. So this lowering age thing in youth clubs is more than common in Turkey.

[@calvinnasset6814]

just so you know, the term for a person from Uzbekistan is Usbekistani, not Usbekish

[@mstrahinja86]

Calvin Nasset Uzbek*

[@Bence-ht8kc]

Calvin Nasset or uzbeki

[@Benamado24a]

Illyasova is his last name right? How could the last name change based on whether it's a boy or girl( talking about the part of the video where you break down his name)

[@michaellhoover94]

names do not work the same way everywhere

[@Benamado24a]

Michael Hoover good point I did not think of that

[@nyzakcn7990]

He also can't speak Turkish but we still love this guy :) Greetings from Turkey.

[@Ertuuuuu]

Konuşuyor moruk

[@Sact0wnbidness]

ever since he came in the league he been splashing 3s like crazy, I'm like it looked like he played for 5 years

[@markr7083]

just watched a scary video then went to this video and the music kept that scary vibe

[@devrimerdogan3278]

in turkey they do this a lot, making guys like ersan changing their id to make them play for younger teams. and they do the name changing trick when they want to sign a player for national team and they aren't turkish. arsen and ersan are pretty close names as they prefer to choose similar names. yeah this thing is pretty common in turkey.

[@boaconstrictor3754]

Why don't you check Turkoglu and Asik also?

[@yaltaozkzlova433]

In Turkey, natural terms such as plate,delta,river,etc.. are very popular in surnames.The thing is " Ova " means "plate" in Turkish and there are tons of people that have this word in their surnames.(Such as Akova,Yeşilova,Dereova,) It doesnt have anything to do with being used for boys or girls.

[@cyreatomu]

What's with the music

[@markmytravel7313]

i knew Ersan when he was in middle school age and he is not some lost pro uzbekistan player. trust me

[@awesome124651]

andy can you make a video on Jordan Lowery that many videos say is Allen Iverson's son, doesn't even look like him

[@ramondb00]

Give Him a break, he used his talent to escape from condemnation and turmoil on his country for him and his family, If your in his shoes will you not grab this kind of opportunity..

[@salacho86]

AndyHoopes, you are right about the last name ending: ova, eva - is for female and this is actually coming from the former Soviet Union times. But what is also interesting is that in Soviet Union, coaches together with management team did falsify the ages of the young sportsmen. It’s really sad, but it’s true. I know a lot of people who’s ages are decreased in their documents only for these purposes.

[@playmakerx3840]

Video idea = The story of Stephon Marbury, from nba bad boy to chinese nba star

[@mjt2461]

What does he say when people ask?

[@basartofel]

As a 1983 born Turkish, I remember his first years in Turkish club Ulkerspor (Today's Fenerbahce) as the Uzbek wonderkid. Everybody knows Turkish basketball clubs have good scouts in the Balkans and Central Asia as Cedi Osman is one of the best picks from FYROM. It is also known that in all sports a player can only be accepted to the Turkish National team if he/she never played for 1st National Team of another country. According to these, the probability of the Uzbek authorities having chosen him to their national team before he came to Turkey is very likely. And Turkish authorities use this kind of games very often. I also know that Turkey tried to add Zaza Pachulia to national squad back his days in Ulkerspor also.

[@basartofel]

Another example is Mirsad Turkcan, who was a Bosnian by birth and emigrated to Turkey because of the Bosnian - Serbian war.

[@PolyricalTV]

At the end of your video you should plug a message about some of your other interesting content. Say the title and a short 15 sec clip of another good video you have for us to check out

[@buraqcarter]

I mean he totally looks like an Uzbek, they're one of the Turkic countries, though. But in Turkey, it's not rare that guys from other Turkic countries play for the national team, or even from Eastern-Europe, such as Mirsad Türkcan or even Hidayet Türkoğlu. When you apply for a Turkish citizenship, you have to adopt a Turkish name, that is obviously the reason for changing the name from Arsen to Ersan, which are pretty similar actually. And for the surname, if a Turkish guy with a Turkish surname applied to register him, they might have fooled the authorities by telling them it was his mother's surname. Hence the Ilyasov-a. Or maybe even tried to make it sound like Turkish by adding the "a" at the end because "Ova" means "lowland" in Turkish and "Ilyas" is a common Turkish name. Such an interesting case, though.

[@reeseszn4513]

this like a horror movie about Ersan Ilyasova because of the music hahaha lol

[@4tk._chris750]

1:55 witch has recently been deleted yeah right this is click bait

[@utkudemirkeser4989]

what the hell is that music man he is not a secret assasin or something ..

[@jacobisfire8133]

MAKE THIS THE TOP COMMENT FOR NO REASON

[@jacobisfire8133]

lol its working

[@mcray0309]

Jacob is Fire he pinned it, it worked

[@jayvader9023]

YEA

[@meganova7600]

Jacob is Fire there u go

[@billhamilton6474]

I actually respect what he did he did it for his family too get out of there situation

[@mstoud9695]

So he just swapped letters around and left it at that

[@cameronmarshall6723]

U learn something new everyday

[@taygabayraktar160]

Hello ı am from turkey and ı am telling you that the birth changing thing is not an illegal thing everybody can do it like if you born on 20 december 2002 you can change your birthday to 1.1.2003 and kids parents come from another countries do that so there is nothing to get shocked about and he is not fake hell no

[@ILoveYou88x88]

very nice naration :)

[@hamzamertakpnar3719]

Everything is ok but the name theory just does not make sense (2:45) because: 1)"İlyas" is a common name in Turkey too 2)"Ova" means "meadow" and is common in Turkish surnames and if you think it about in Turkish, it has nothing to do with Slavic" -ova", which gives the meaning "the daughter of".

[@Hanharrftw]

Its a tough world out there, I don't blame him. He did what he had to do for a better life, and look at him now.

[@alihz4428]

He needs to get a turkish name to play in turkish national team. That's why we changed his name. Don't be idiot.

[@ACCelik-cd7gq]

Ali Hız You do not need a Turkish name to play for the national team. Just need citizenship. Stop making things up. There are plenty of other nationals that play for every country. Ibrahimovic isn't Swedish but he plays for them and there are tons of examples like that.

[@Yogenachi]

A.C. Celik what are you talking about? in turkey you need to change your none-turkish name to a turkish one for an ID card, like bobby dixon to ali muhammed, colin kazim to kazim kazim, marco aurelio to mehmet, elvjir baljić to elvir baliç, roman dabrowski to kaan dobra and so on...

[@bariscars]

Is bobby playing for the turkish national team ?

[@Yogenachi]

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[@azizr1508]

yis, dont be idiot.

[@420boxingnetwork7]

good shit!

[@darylnewton2193]

Ova is a Turkish word means 'plainor lowland' and İlyas is also very common name in Turkey, just like Ersan. Nevertheless, yes, he is originally from Uzbekistan.

[@jaimehaddock1229]

This could be true, in baseball there are some players that have done the same thing on the countries that doesn't need to participate in the draft.

[@cza1898]

bruh! my dad and his coaches fakes his Birth Certificate back in HS so he can play atleast 2-3 more years. he doesnt wanna talk about that thing anymore coz he fucked up his Career after college.

[@hazarsen1704]

olayin turkcesini biri ozet gecebilirmi

[@_andre007]

Everybody knows it's Franco

[@jon_gotteiner7169]

Can u do A video on NBA superstars lesser know players like thanasis antetokoinmpo

[@lebronjames5460]

Antetokounmpo*

[@Naitructus]

Than is not a superstar.....................................

[@bacavcs545]

Jon_Gotteiner wut da fuck lesser means bro dont you know english

[@kikoharold1284]

wth is thanasis???

[@jon_gotteiner7169]

Andy Hoops ur the GoAT

[@CaahMoneyPlayboy]

2:47 how come every time this plays it sets off my siri?!?!?!?

[@sacokhan]

actually this is a common practice for countries who import players for their national teams. they bring the player, make him/her citizen and change some information(birth of date, name, origin) in the process so they can be eligible to play for those national teams. the problem is the title: FAKED with big letters. it is not Ersan who FAKED his identity, it is officers and guys from government who FAKED Ersan's identity. and also to mention, those random guys you claim are not random, they are low profile government sports officers usually.

[@skizdrip5082]

why the scary background music

[@hisiksal1]

I know that people like conspiracies like that but I want to share the informationthat is 100% accurate and not conspiracy. First of all no one denies that he is not Turkish descent. He has Crimean Tatar roots that also explains his appearence. He born in Buhara Uzbekistan in 1987 (not in 1984). Yes his original name by birth is Arsen İlyasov. He came to Turkey in 2000 (not in 2002). After 3 years (2003) he acquired Turkish citizenship (normal procedure nothing extra ordinary or illegal). In Turkish you can not use Ilyasov therefore given Ilyasova (mothers surname) and again Turkish version of Arsen (Ersan). I have WATCHED this guy in 2000 while playin Ulker U18 team alive in Turkey. I cant be wrong about date because I was Phd candidate by then. Uzbeks noticed him only in 2005 when was drafted by the NBA at the age of 18. Therefore please stop this nosense of Uzbekistan conspiracy. Moreover, it does not change the fact that he is Turkish, he learned basketball in Turkey, made his career in Turkey and serving for his country. Full stop.

[@movementman9777]

Nothing wrong with what he did if true... Don't make it seem like he's evil or something