The New 2023 Ford Super Duty is a Game Changer: I Take A Deep With The Engineer Who Built The Engine

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@WyLEE08
@WyLEE08 Жыл бұрын
A “Game Changer” to me would be a new heavy duty truck that cost less than last year’s model.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
It'll never happen. Every year the cost of a new vehicle goes up, and keeps going up because people are stupid enough to keep going out and buying new vehicles year after year. So...the prices will just keep climbing.
@jMichaelEdwards
@jMichaelEdwards Жыл бұрын
The dollar is crashing
@JEDss454
@JEDss454 Жыл бұрын
The government increased the money supply by OVER 40% in only 2 years (2020-2021)… theres absolutely NO WAY any company can reduce their prices when the government is flooding the market with that much money that quickly. You can thank the politicians!
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@jMichaelEdwards Crashed decades ago.
@christianchilee
@christianchilee Жыл бұрын
well if they keep adding new features and technology, the price will go up. It’s nice to have all the goodies but it can become a headache when electronics takes a dump.
@shanereid3837
@shanereid3837 Жыл бұрын
I am so Impressed how well the 6.7 HO Pulls! Much better then my 2019 and significantly better than our new Duramax's.
@natgasf7236
@natgasf7236 Жыл бұрын
I should have my f350 lariat ultimate powerstroke in a month. Ticket for build was pulled two days ago. I lost my loaded 2013 lariat power stroke in a garage fire two months ago. I’m a ford employee part time and customer who ordered the one I’m getting backed out so I’m thrilled to take it. I’m 71 will never use it for what it’s made for but I don’t care. I’m enjoying my golden years and this should be my last rig.😊
@MarkR973
@MarkR973 10 ай бұрын
Hi there so you basically daily drive it and don't tow right? It's pretty awesome and looks nicer than most cars
@natgasf7236
@natgasf7236 10 ай бұрын
@@MarkR973 Yes, I do have a car trailer though if I need it.
@Captain-Awesome
@Captain-Awesome 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations! I got mine 3 months ago 24’ F350 SRW 6.7HO Platinum Tremor. I absolutely love this truck. I will be using it to tow a 5th wheel RV a couple times a year. Like yours most of the time it will be what I like to refer to “a pretty boy truck”. I have a home building company but there is zero chance that my truck will be hauling anything but me 😎.
@j.k.cascade2057
@j.k.cascade2057 6 ай бұрын
N I C E !
@daveruggles4450
@daveruggles4450 Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of comments on KZbin about the roller lifters on the 7.3 gas engine galling. Has this perceived problem been resolved by Ford or is it not a concern because it is blown out of proportion?
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Given the thousands of those engines that have been built and are in use, about 1-2 percent of them have suffered lifter issues. So, like everything else on the social media platforms, people blow everything out of proportion...they read about 1 issue, and suddenly every truck on the planet has that problem....they don't stop and think that it is a very small number of engines that have problems. Like anything new, it'll take a while to get the problems sorted out.
@FutureTruth1
@FutureTruth1 Жыл бұрын
Ya and you got to remember all the RVs that have the same motor!! That’s thousands more motors in chassis and cut aways every year!
@FutureTruth1
@FutureTruth1 Жыл бұрын
Very few failures
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@FutureTruth1 Plus the crate engines as well, not sure how many of those they sell, but they're higher HP/Torque than the engines used in production trucks.
@privateer9181
@privateer9181 Жыл бұрын
@@FutureTruth1 because not many have the miles to fail
@ifyourenotsure2263
@ifyourenotsure2263 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad that some dealerships are still marking up. These prices are insane. I remember Ford used to offer 5-8k in rebates. Guess those days are long gone. At least make a nicer looking XL model. Headlights are hideous.
@0223Jeremy
@0223Jeremy Жыл бұрын
Add the STX PKG and it looks amazing
@briancavanaugh7604
@briancavanaugh7604 4 ай бұрын
11:00 Paul has just about the most simple, straight forward no personal promotion introduction I think I have EVER seen from a podcast guest. I like it Paul. Well done sir.
@Powerstrokinit
@Powerstrokinit Жыл бұрын
Ask them why do they still use a CP4?
@jasonhatfield4747
@jasonhatfield4747 Жыл бұрын
Picking up a 2023 F-250 XLT tomorrow. Pretty excited;) Will be our tow vehicle for our Airstream mainly, but will be used around the farm for projects and as a secondary vehicle as needed.
@clintmiller88
@clintmiller88 Жыл бұрын
diesel apparently have a lot of fuel pump issues.. and the 7.3 are having some issues as well... would love to see those big issues discussed
@SVAutoAustin
@SVAutoAustin Жыл бұрын
Mine seems to be fine and I have a December 16th production F250 SD Lariat. What issues with the fuel pump are you referring to?
@boobacockaa
@boobacockaa Жыл бұрын
@@SVAutoAustin if you have to ask about the cp4 issues, then you probably shouldn’t be driving a diesel. As for the 7.3….. just do a gooogle search.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 Жыл бұрын
CP4 is 100% junk. Ram is replacing them all...
@jmad9294
@jmad9294 Жыл бұрын
@@boobacockaa I’ve only seen a failure in real life on a work truck that was neglected and never serviced appropriately. Online It’s blown waaayyyy out of proportion. Had multiple 6.7’s and know lots of people in my area that have had 0 issues.
@rontopping2048
@rontopping2048 Жыл бұрын
No issues if know how to take care of your diesel. All diesel engines built these days need lubricant in fuel. If you use additives regularly no issues. Change fuel filters every 20k . Drain water separator every 3000 miles
@tienglongmy
@tienglongmy Жыл бұрын
One question - does the instrument panel fill up with dust like it does on my 2016? It makes it really hard to see the gauges.
@time_on_target
@time_on_target Жыл бұрын
I picked up my 23 F350 SRW, Lariat Black Appearance package last month. Love the truck. The wireless Apple CarPlay has been a little finicky. Sometimes it just won’t connect and I have to turn the truck off, open the door and try again. We tow a large 5th wheel, 45’ long and 13.5’ tall. It weighs about 19k when loaded and it does fine. 4100lbs if payload capacity.
@ToddMcF2002
@ToddMcF2002 Жыл бұрын
I"ve had that problem with wired CarPlay. Not in a Ford though. Probably a universal issue.
@nahs3195
@nahs3195 Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a universal thing still best choice out there
@NomadicDrummer
@NomadicDrummer Жыл бұрын
My work truck F150 just did that to me today. I simply just disconnected it from Bluetooth and then hit the connect to apple carplay in the phone menu. I don't think you have to turn your truck off.
@aldeluca5079
@aldeluca5079 Жыл бұрын
When connected wirelessly, if you did not connect to CarPlay, plug in the hardwire to your phone and it will connect. Then you can disconnect the hardwire and it remains connected wireless.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
If find it hilarious that interior compartments lockable with the ignition key are considered a notable feature. They've been in cars for decades.
@theil6
@theil6 5 ай бұрын
its one of the original features from the 50's, this channel is so far behind! I'm sorry but where do they find these people?
@timmartin3927
@timmartin3927 Жыл бұрын
I purchased a 2023 Ford F250 Diesel Lariat two months ago. The truck is impressive. If I drive the truck at 68 MPH on the four lane highway I am getting 27 mpg!! That is with the cruise control set. The 3.31 gear ratio and the 10 speed transmission really do a good job for the fuel economy. There are so many other features I like. The HUD is one of those great features. I did not like the HUD at first, but I am now used to the display. FORD needs to solve the fuel pump problem.
@chaleowin7732
@chaleowin7732 Жыл бұрын
One of my 'must have' options is HUD. Once you have good HUD, it's really hard to not have it.
@matthamilton7452
@matthamilton7452 Жыл бұрын
27 mpg you are lucky and the only one in history to get fuel mileage that impressive. We have all of our trucks monitored by satellite and at 70mph all 30 tucks 20.5 with the eco mode on. Don't give that truck you are driving up.
@timmartin3927
@timmartin3927 Жыл бұрын
@@matthamilton7452 Does you diesel have eco mode?
@matthamilton7452
@matthamilton7452 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir. All of them do. At best doing 70 I may have seen 22mpg.
@timmartin3927
@timmartin3927 Жыл бұрын
@@matthamilton7452 how do I get to Eco mode. If I go 70 I too drop down on the millage. I have to drive 68. I have a bed cover on the truck. No load
@ghuron13
@ghuron13 Жыл бұрын
In regards to the HO diesel. Did they finally go away with the CP4 fuel pump? He said it was a larger displacement pump so im assuming so. But id like to hear the words "no more cp4"
@d0uble_O
@d0uble_O 11 ай бұрын
looks like they kept the CP4 😁
@ghuron13
@ghuron13 11 ай бұрын
@NorCal-916 they did. I bought a '22 anyway and replaced it with the DCR
@cyclesingsleep
@cyclesingsleep Жыл бұрын
Andre! ...just an incredible, wealth of information!!! Thank you!!! And, thank you for researching the options so well that you were able to get the engine experts to actually talk about their engines...amazing to me that those guys were ready and excited to talk about all of the details and SELL us on why those changes are great 🤪
@brandonwebb4221
@brandonwebb4221 Жыл бұрын
My local dealer was full of Super duties and all of them were 80k+ even an xlt with cloth seats. These prices have gotten out of control
@davidlusk4350
@davidlusk4350 Жыл бұрын
And the problem with that is?? 😆 seriously they are all nuts do a car calculation of what a payment would be at 80k with 8 percent
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Prices have been out of control for about the past 20 years. People think they need a luxury home inside their cars, so all that electronic garbage adds up, add to that all the nonsense nannies in today's vehicles that stuff adds up too.
@BrandonLeech
@BrandonLeech Жыл бұрын
I have no idea who can even afford these new ones
@theglowcloud2215
@theglowcloud2215 Жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c Since when do customers' needs or wants factor into the decisions corporations make? Car companies make cars based on what their competitors are doing--they don't give a shit if there's demand for an affordable vehicle without 12 touchscreens in it.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@theglowcloud2215 Half the problem is people keep opening their wallets up and overpaying for new vehicles that they don't need in the first place, so guess what, automakers will just keep on upcharging every year, and adding more nonsense electronic gadgets so that people who have no business driving can drive.
@carperdiem8754
@carperdiem8754 Жыл бұрын
Just got my 7.3 Lariat. I don’t like all the chrome, but I didn’t want the 20” wheels that the blackout package requires. Still breaking it in and will do my first long towing trip in July. Hope I don’t regret going gasser
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
I think the chrome crap is part of the Lariat package....my 99 Lariat has way too much chrome as well.
@titaniummaster1532
@titaniummaster1532 Жыл бұрын
Chrome is so outdated, it’s a 60’s 70’s thing…. You would think these “big brain “ designers would have figuredthat out by now especially being that most people who buy trucks are practical and not into flashy shiny stuff…..that’s one thing I love about my 22 power wagon ZERO chrome, looks super sharp, also 17” wheels for maximum side wall for cushion and wheeling. Who and why would you want a 20 or 22” wheel???? Les side wall stiffer ride and bad for off road. I think “some” people think chrome and 22” wheel look cool lol.
@carperdiem8754
@carperdiem8754 Жыл бұрын
@@titaniummaster1532 exactly. I am sure over the next few years i will find aftermarket ways to make the chrome go away. I couldn’t even get the snow plow and camper package and do blackout. Even a satin silver would be better than the chrome
@titaniummaster1532
@titaniummaster1532 Жыл бұрын
@@carperdiem8754 totally agree
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@titaniummaster1532 Well they may not want chrome, but they buy a luxury car with a truck bed attached instead. Truck prices are totally ridiculous for what a truck is actually supposed to be for.
@ronmancuso5966
@ronmancuso5966 Жыл бұрын
Andre & Team, I have a question that I have not seen addressed in your videos. I am wondering why I should choose the 3.55 rear end over the 3.31 for 5th wheel towing with a 6.7L HO. I have seen some people say the transmission compensates enough to make up the difference with a 3.31 while getting better fuel economy. Thoughts?
@danman5857
@danman5857 Жыл бұрын
probably slightly higher tow rating as well keeps a better rpm during heavy towing. If you do lots of heavier towing 3.55. If you don't tow frequently or don't tow overly heavy then 3.31.
@twinturboranch454
@twinturboranch454 Жыл бұрын
get 3.55 or whatever higher numerical value is available for the configuration you require.
@richarddubois5529
@richarddubois5529 Жыл бұрын
3.73 or 4.10 would be my choice.
@YAOZYVIDEO
@YAOZYVIDEO Жыл бұрын
Do they still use Bosch CP4 pump in new 67?
@MegaRetr
@MegaRetr Жыл бұрын
That high output 6.7 is a monster sitting on the stand. It reminds me of the 6.4.
@rearspeaker6364
@rearspeaker6364 Жыл бұрын
the only thing good about a 6.4 is.....................nothing. at least you dont have to remove the cab to change a turbo on a 6.7.
@georgesrisomsak9650
@georgesrisomsak9650 Жыл бұрын
​@@rearspeaker6364you don't have to remove the cab to do a turbo on a 6.4 either. I've done hundreds. Total pile of shit though, and very hard to work on. -Ford tech
@mrutan6055
@mrutan6055 Жыл бұрын
Does it still have the diesel fuel pump that blows and cause $10,000 damage ruins the injectors and sends pieces all through the fuel system
@beauw5630
@beauw5630 Жыл бұрын
Love the HUD and the new gauge clusters but for some unknown reason there is no compass in normal driving mode. PLEASE FORD fix this with an update!
@WACONimages
@WACONimages Жыл бұрын
Nice review and overview. Seeing Andre sitting behind the wheel, those front chairs seem quiet a bit too small(in height)?
@ovritphew9675
@ovritphew9675 10 күн бұрын
I'm still very satisfied with my 2023 7.3 xlt. Tows great for both hauling my tractor and my travel trailer. Only complaint would be it has more squat than my previous 2500 RAM with the 6.4 gas engine.
@bryonmartin8463
@bryonmartin8463 5 ай бұрын
From a rating standpoint the 7.3 with 4:30 rear end is rated (i.e. legally allowed) to tow almost the same as the 6.7 regular powerstroke (not the HO)-7.3 is only ~1,000lbs less for gooseneck. For weekenders the 7.3 seems the best option, and is $9,000 less than the regular powerstroke. Add in a higher payload than either diesel and you have a highly capable truck.
@Spanabama
@Spanabama 2 күн бұрын
You'll probably go through that $9,000 savings real fast with a 430 rear gear and the gas engine. HIghway engine RPM will be very high and using gas like it was free. I get 12 to 14 miles per gallon towing with a diesel engine compared to friends getting 6 to 8 miles per gallon towing comparable weight with a gas engine.
@crbourret
@crbourret Жыл бұрын
It makes me nuts that my F350 XL does not have a battery/alternator gauge so I don't know if it's charging, I'm not having issues it's just something I like to monitor.
@geoffrey3289
@geoffrey3289 18 сағат бұрын
That's crazy because my 350xl has a battery gauge and a digital charge gauge.
@nickm9134
@nickm9134 Жыл бұрын
Game changer would be the trucks actually be available and reasonable prices. I'm not buying an Aston martin....just an f250. Why is it over 100k
@kumudukulasekara6684
@kumudukulasekara6684 10 ай бұрын
One manufacturer includes a new features, consumers demand those features from competitors, competitors add those to avoid being outdated, prices go up.
@frostedpearl1386
@frostedpearl1386 6 ай бұрын
Prices go up yes, but never have we seen them go up like this. ​@kumudukulasekara6684
@MCC0NN377
@MCC0NN377 4 ай бұрын
@@kumudukulasekara6684More like manufacturer takes advantage of pandemic to raise prices, stupid consumers pay new price without question, manufacturer keeps raising prices to see how much they can squeeze out of the stupid consumers, consumers gladly keep paying and going into tremendous debt to be able to purchase. This is how a truck morph can go from $65k to $135k in a matter of 5-10 years…
@user-qt5eh9wb7g
@user-qt5eh9wb7g 2 ай бұрын
I call bs. I just got a 2024 f250 stx with the 6.8 for 54 and some change.....
@AndresChavez-f9w
@AndresChavez-f9w 24 күн бұрын
You can actually get them for $55 thousand brand new
@TRB._邁克太好了
@TRB._邁克太好了 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how I saw a lariat 2023 super duty on the street and it looked cool until I saw the Chevy side steps it was alright but I left quick and was impressed how fast it took off
@PlaneSaddles
@PlaneSaddles Жыл бұрын
It still feels weird that the 2023 Super Dutys are just hitting the lots in the last few months. Coming from a company that has been known to throw 2008 year models in January of 07. Is the 23 year model going to be a short production then the 24s hit in the fall?
@SVAutoAustin
@SVAutoAustin Жыл бұрын
Yes
@boobacockaa
@boobacockaa Жыл бұрын
Yes. Ford said they were reducing production to keep prices high.
@brianwalker1933
@brianwalker1933 Жыл бұрын
@@boobacockaa Greed rules supreme. They've gotta make more and more of the almighty dollar!!
@0223Jeremy
@0223Jeremy Жыл бұрын
@@brianwalker1933it’s called not flooding the market but fret not peasant prices are coming down
@figmo7494
@figmo7494 Жыл бұрын
Man, those Engines are going to be expensive too get fixed.
@opplants8302
@opplants8302 Жыл бұрын
Adaptive beam headlights for hd trucks or pickups in general. Why has this not been offered yet?
@buckhorncortez
@buckhorncortez Жыл бұрын
You'd only whine about the price...
@opplants8302
@opplants8302 Жыл бұрын
@@buckhorncortez True, and when these rigs have their massive profit margins cut from their msrp I will stop whining. However, It doesn't hide the fact that this is a feature US manufacturers are reluctant to bring to market.
@dougcjohn
@dougcjohn Жыл бұрын
Did you have any discussion on the CP4 Fuel pump, any changes, replacement, etc. Or is it still a concern for Owners on the destruction if pump goes.
@shane2552
@shane2552 Жыл бұрын
On the instrument cluster for job 2 it is not the same. I have a BAP 2023 Lariat Ultimate, very different, no side diesel options. I can select them but the left side stays and all info is in middle.
@shane2552
@shane2552 Жыл бұрын
Never mind, figured it out. Wow! Great information Thank you!
@jamesh6006
@jamesh6006 11 ай бұрын
Have they fixed the death wobble problem in the front end. Had a 2017 and 2019. Both started doing it. Traded the 19 on a 22 AT4. And hate it.
@RCPropaganda
@RCPropaganda Жыл бұрын
Calm view is nice
@toms.7913
@toms.7913 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I am in the market for a new F350. I am leaning towards the XLT for a slide in camper/road trips. Thanks for the deep dive into the new Super Dutys.
@Davido50
@Davido50 Жыл бұрын
That's ALL ya need. Best heavy duty truck out there by far! All engine choices are excellent. New, efficient 7.3L Godzilla (gas) V8 is game changer. 23mpgs+ on highway. 💯
@slmjake
@slmjake Жыл бұрын
Wonder what the 6.8 will get for mpgs
@davidlusk4350
@davidlusk4350 Жыл бұрын
Exciting times great Work TFL team 😊😊 but the thought of 1200 to 1300 monthly payments in the current market conditions makes it a total loss for manufacturers and consumers. We need big rebates to return and dealer hold backs to be released again. Its not 2020 vehicle shortage any longer Ford is high up there on days supply behind Ram. Deals should be plentiful.
@carperdiem8754
@carperdiem8754 Жыл бұрын
There are hardly any on the lots. Unlike F150 these are still scarce. Not sure why, maybe because commercial sector has an aging fleet they have struggled to replenish these last few years
@davidlusk4350
@davidlusk4350 Жыл бұрын
@@carperdiem8754 fleets took over the first wave. Most companies had first choice from past 2 years . But still plenty if you check around. Gasser versions are scattered and on lots all over. But chips rollout has plagued the diesel process. This winter into next year you'll see more price deduction plans and increased trims being produced.
@mvcharisma
@mvcharisma Жыл бұрын
If you’re making payments on it, you can’t afford it 😂
@davidlusk4350
@davidlusk4350 Жыл бұрын
@@mvcharisma words by Dave Ramsey very true!!!!
@sgtaaronp
@sgtaaronp Жыл бұрын
1600 A month for mine...
@dthomas2047
@dthomas2047 Жыл бұрын
Andrei loves this stuff and does an excellent job getting into the details. Great overview and very helpful!
@boobacockaa
@boobacockaa Жыл бұрын
No he doesn’t. He’s terrible without a script.
@JorDan-yt1zu
@JorDan-yt1zu Жыл бұрын
He sucks he knows nothing
@Crusader1984
@Crusader1984 Жыл бұрын
Problem is he’s wanting more technology in these trucks more technology means more expensive. We want a basic strip down work truck.
@jakem.6359
@jakem.6359 Жыл бұрын
Almost every super duty I've seen on the road the last few days is a 2023. Glad they are selling....but then again....if Super Duties aren't selling ....there's something seriously wrong
@SL-ix4yk
@SL-ix4yk Жыл бұрын
When you said standard I got very excited because I thought you were talking about the transmission, then my hopes got dashed, I'll hang onto my 92 350 diesel manual transmission until ford can smarten up and bring back a manual transmission in the trucks
@Weidjeep
@Weidjeep Жыл бұрын
greed, although we will be dead before Ford puts a manual in their HD trucks again.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
A manual transmission will never return to these trucks.
@JollyGiant19
@JollyGiant19 Жыл бұрын
@@brianb-p6586Exactly. Manual transmissions are dead everywhere aside from some sports cars and even then those are on their deathbed.
@doublem7812
@doublem7812 Жыл бұрын
That’s because all you can operate anymore is a cell phone… sad
@deal492
@deal492 Жыл бұрын
My Bronco has more factory horsepower and torque than a 92 ford diesel diesel.... just tell us, you ain't buying anything...
@chadbutler3277
@chadbutler3277 Жыл бұрын
my old heads up display in a Buick I couldn't see it with polarized glasses. Can you on this one?
@chileshemubanga3594
@chileshemubanga3594 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff,I love & appreciate it when technical stuff is explained unlike just motoring journalists "testing" vehicles & "being" marketing/u marketing personal. 👍 to TFL.
@stevengager
@stevengager 6 ай бұрын
Ford picked the least enthusiastic person to talk about the 6.8L V8 to the public.
@daveruggles4450
@daveruggles4450 Жыл бұрын
Once the settings are configured for my routine driving, are they "sticky" so I don't need to reconfigure them every time I start the truck? I can visualize they could be distracting while driving that could be a safety issue. Looks like the dealers need to offer training seminars to operate all the various options. Does Ford train the dealers so they can do that?
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Most sales staff get trained by the vehicle buyers...most people out shopping for vehicles are doing their own research online and in person, and learning all that stuff and actually teach the sales staff what all the gadgets in today's vehicles do....but yep, you'd think the employees at the dealerships would be taught....they actually don't know much about any of the vehicles they sell, we as consumers typically know more than they do.
@Grobert8026
@Grobert8026 Жыл бұрын
This is all good and great. But I ordered my 350 lariat with the standard 6.7 in the beginning of November and haven’t heard a word of it since the email confirming the order.
@amadousow2477
@amadousow2477 Жыл бұрын
When will they offer manual regeneration DPF.
@phathick2003
@phathick2003 Жыл бұрын
When will you be doing the towing test with the regular and HO 6.7?
@georgewilson1184
@georgewilson1184 Жыл бұрын
I want to know if I can get a Manual gearbox in any F / Series truck
@ToddMcF2002
@ToddMcF2002 Жыл бұрын
Great looking truck - but a solid ~6K more than a Silverado 2500HD and the Ford is relatively bare bones. For example a Tremor XLT 7.3L Godzilla at $71K with no leather, no heated seats. I can do that at $65K in the 2500 with the 6.6L. I like the Ford better but I can't justify the cost of a Lariat just to get that stuff for daily driver experience.
@The-fs5wn
@The-fs5wn Жыл бұрын
You gave it the Tremor package and tech package, while giving the Silverado nothing. And the Silverado has cloth seats standard too.
@ToddMcF2002
@ToddMcF2002 Жыл бұрын
@@The-fs5wn build an XL with both convenience and towing tech packages, all star package, z71 off-road, leather & console. Comes out to 65.5
@j.k.cascade2057
@j.k.cascade2057 6 ай бұрын
This was excellent, thanks for bringing this to us.
@joekane6725
@joekane6725 Жыл бұрын
The hud in GM trucks was the main reason I left Ford. I am so happy they got with the times! When you have complete neck fusion, it is really hard to look down for directions on the gos systems, the turn assist shows on the hud making so you do not have to turn your (which I can’t) to read the radio. Thanks for a great video!
@mvcharisma
@mvcharisma Жыл бұрын
Should you really be driving if you can’t even move your neck? Sounds like a rolling accident waiting to happen
@redd7188
@redd7188 Жыл бұрын
😏🙄
@BrianBourgeois-
@BrianBourgeois- Жыл бұрын
That high output 6.7 is a monster sitting on the stand. It reminds me of the 6.4.
@shauncameron8042
@shauncameron8042 Жыл бұрын
Just need to lose the cp4 pump!
@almangrant7358
@almangrant7358 Жыл бұрын
Andre, can you question the Ford engineer, why is the block material flayed between the cylinder bores? It would easily crack if a coolant leak occurred.
@boobacockaa
@boobacockaa Жыл бұрын
He’s a sellout & a coward, he will never ask something like that.
@em2965
@em2965 Жыл бұрын
You should try to work with ford and see if you can do a 6.8 vs 7.3 towing test with similarly equipped trucks. Would be nice to see what the power difference would be for gas customers trying to decide
@darkfire8615
@darkfire8615 Жыл бұрын
6.7*
@em2965
@em2965 Жыл бұрын
@@darkfire8615 6.8 is the new gas motor, I want a comparison of the two gas engines.
@BC08
@BC08 Жыл бұрын
There’s barely any difference - there’s no major differences between these two 💩s other than the 6.8 having a shorter stroke. Just means HP/TQ will be shifted to the right (on a dyno graph). The 6.2 Boss was a much better basic engine and it should have been the basis for a larger cube (6.9-7.3 liter) Cammer. A large cube Boss would have offered much better performance than the lackluster Godzilla
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
@@BC08 That's not true at all. From Ford's published specifications: 6.8L Gas V8: 405 HP @ 5,000 rpm, 445 lb-ft @ 4,000 rpm 7.3L Gas V8: 430 HP @ 5,500 rpm, 485 lb-ft @ 4,000 rpm The smaller engine peak torque is lower, and the peak is at the same speed as the larger engine. The smaller engine's peak power is lower, and that peak is actually at a lower speed than the larger engine. The shorter stroke does not shift the torque or power to higher engine speed. The 6.8 is about 7% smaller in displacement, and has about 6% lower peak power and 8% lower torque, so output is essentially proportional to displacement.
@BC08
@BC08 Жыл бұрын
@@brianb-p6586 Based on your numbers the 6.8 peak torque rpm is not lower, it is the same. Take the the same top end (cylinder heads, intake manifold and camshaft), reduce stroke (thereby reducing displacement) and the power band shifts higher every time. This is basic physics. So what’s happening here is Ford could be reporting HP at an arbitrary RPM (like 5000) to differentiate peak outputs between the 6.8 and 7.3 or they put a smaller duration cam in it since based on all accounts the cylinder heads and intake are the same. And before you ask why Ford would under-report peak HP to differentiate engine options, they did it with the 5.0. Twice. They would report the peak HP of the 5.0 truck engines @ 5500 RPM and 5750 RPM. We can look to numerous dyno graphs of stock Gen 1 and 2 5.0 truck engines not making peak HP until 6200-6300 RPM on dynos. Why would they do this? To give the 3.5 EcoBoost - a higher cost option - more peak HP on paper.
@JayCarroll
@JayCarroll Жыл бұрын
What fuel pump is on the diesel engines for 2023?
@frankkeel8410
@frankkeel8410 Жыл бұрын
How much? Are they on sale?
@TheOGThumper
@TheOGThumper Жыл бұрын
The powerstroke even sitting on the stand, not in a truck, looks like a giant mess lol
@mini2nut67
@mini2nut67 Жыл бұрын
It’s a very complicated beast that is almost impossible to work on if the cab isn’t lifted off the frame.
@pauldiesel4582
@pauldiesel4582 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely buy the most extended warranty possible. Ford techs are probably groaning even more!
@canucktheory3271
@canucktheory3271 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Ford introducing key features while pushing the envelope on power. Too bad that they're also pushing the envelope on looks and the wallet as well...
@Vgk36
@Vgk36 Жыл бұрын
They also push the envelope😆 when they don't warranty your cp pump.
@Van-tastic
@Van-tastic Жыл бұрын
So glad you have access to the theoretical higher level trims… apparently all super duties are now lariat or below in the real world
@robnanneman
@robnanneman Жыл бұрын
Ford Job 1 vs. Job 2. The top trims aren’t out yet.
@mikeswik6608
@mikeswik6608 Жыл бұрын
Really cool the DI engineer came out. she must have a lot of free time
@carl8790
@carl8790 Жыл бұрын
Took them forever to put a HUD on the 3/4 to 1 ton category.
@kenyongillespie8652
@kenyongillespie8652 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the information on the new SuperDuty. Great looking truck in the red color.
@ruialmeida6679
@ruialmeida6679 Жыл бұрын
Well I ordered a 2023 f450 limited when the order banks opened LAST year.....still waiting.....
@songj0056
@songj0056 Жыл бұрын
I ordered an F-450 XLT, and I, too, am still waiting just for a update from Ford.😢
@LanceEJones
@LanceEJones 10 ай бұрын
@@songj0056Have you taken delivery?
@cornfedproductions9773
@cornfedproductions9773 Жыл бұрын
The Eco Boost has been running in small cars/trucks for years, When is the 7.3 going to get some twin turbos? And a E85 option, now that’s a real game changer.
@nathanmcdonald610
@nathanmcdonald610 Жыл бұрын
Doubt that'll ever happen. A twin turbo 7.3L would rivel the output of the Powerstroke and they don't want to cannibalize sales of their most profitable engine.
@DiMoraDiamond
@DiMoraDiamond Жыл бұрын
Ecoboost = EcoBoom blown head gaskets before 2020.
@ItMeZumn
@ItMeZumn Жыл бұрын
They make a Whipple Supercharger for the 7.3 Godzilla
@03c5z
@03c5z Жыл бұрын
I think they built the 6.8 so they can charge a premium for the 7.3. It cost the same to produce either one so the upgrade price is all extra profit for Ford.
@martinmdl6879
@martinmdl6879 Жыл бұрын
What type of Fuel Injection? Direct Injection with carbon buildup?
@turbolq4
@turbolq4 Жыл бұрын
They are port fuel injected, so no carbon buildup on the intake valves.
@sei-o-lepuha5947
@sei-o-lepuha5947 Жыл бұрын
What's the meaning of high output Is it more power??
@H2ULTRA
@H2ULTRA Жыл бұрын
What color is that lariat in ford language?
@Danzilly
@Danzilly Жыл бұрын
Andre thanks for talking to the engineers. Wish power on board was standard equipment on the xl trims.
@leeprice2849
@leeprice2849 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the size of the new engine. 6 8? It's so close in size to the 7.3
@MotoPG
@MotoPG Жыл бұрын
Can anyone get the cam specs on the 6.8 V8?
@dh405
@dh405 Жыл бұрын
I do wish you had ask about the CP4 changes and why they keep using it, other than they need that 36,000 lb squirt.
@YAOZYVIDEO
@YAOZYVIDEO Жыл бұрын
This guy probably doesn’t even know what a CP4 is. He only knows the surface stuff
@Lunatech04
@Lunatech04 Жыл бұрын
Very good coverage
@the305hauler
@the305hauler Жыл бұрын
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸 Price is ridiculous 🙄 still, i literally cant afford the F250 super crewcab XL 4x4 with the offroad package gasser. The basic bare bones truck. Heck i cant afford the super cab same specs.
@Larrycarr63
@Larrycarr63 Жыл бұрын
Andre,, thank you for the look at the new Ford super duty truck.. I’m probably a bigger Ford fan than Henry Ford himself,, but I am very disappointed in the new front end grill area,, I do not like it at all.. I’m disappointed in the grill,, but everything else I love it..
@jpvdw1961
@jpvdw1961 Жыл бұрын
JFC ... ya need a small step ladder just to check the oil level
@MarkR973
@MarkR973 10 ай бұрын
Can this be bought with a short bed?
@highball7347
@highball7347 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching TFL and BTBRV since their first videos and the love affair between these two and Ford is definitely not lost on anyone. We get it. You guys are in love with Ford but how many of these “game changers” have made it to customers in the past year?
@ScottDePanfilis
@ScottDePanfilis Жыл бұрын
Here in New Egland, the camping season is often booked a year in advance. Essentially, you could purchase a toy hauler and find you have no campground/ trail system to travel to. Great job! You rock Nathan!!!
@cstgx
@cstgx Жыл бұрын
Should ask her why it always defaults back to the main menu. It will not save your last setting
@orrinkelso9295
@orrinkelso9295 Жыл бұрын
With the cost of that Lariat truck, you might have to sell the house and live in the truck. So that reclining seat will come in handy.
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын
Notice how much more beefier these are than the ls/lt engines. Wish ford would have set the power at 450/500 on the 7.3 though
@lonerider5315
@lonerider5315 Жыл бұрын
Tell me you work for ford with out telling me you work for ford😂😂😂😂 clown
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 Жыл бұрын
@@lonerider5315 you look 14 🤭
@lonerider5315
@lonerider5315 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomisntfree_44 deflection 😂😂😂
@Billybob50119
@Billybob50119 Жыл бұрын
7.3 cams and lifters are failing at an alarming rate. 6.6 gas has been doing better in all reviews loaded and unloaded and is a standard no $ option.
@benjaminwayneb
@benjaminwayneb Жыл бұрын
@@Billybob50119 The 6.6 is a dog compared to the 7.3. I work for a fleet with 270 vehicles and have had no 7.3 problems. 3 local Ford dealers and they haven't seen a single failure.
@OZD-mb2bs
@OZD-mb2bs Жыл бұрын
The only thing you need to know is, get the extended warranty! Great video BTW!
@revest100
@revest100 Жыл бұрын
Great in-depth view of the SuperDuty! Thanks Andre
@billp5424
@billp5424 Жыл бұрын
At that price point those low hanging steps should retract.
@craigg4246
@craigg4246 Жыл бұрын
you should have asked him what they are doing about the 7.3L engines losing their cam and lifters at 40k miles?
@rayman1908
@rayman1908 Жыл бұрын
The bigger problem is the 10 speed that you cant get replacements for
@ItMeZumn
@ItMeZumn Жыл бұрын
​@@rayman1908haven't had any issues with the 10 speed and it's pulling more than it prob should in the 450...
@billmiller4620
@billmiller4620 Жыл бұрын
I agree, they just keep jacking up the prices. They can keep it.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Today's XL or "Work Truck" package Super Duty Fords are equipped with more standard features than my 99 F250 Super Duty with the Lariat Package....not sure why anyone would think they need to have anymore features and gadgets LOL.
@bobmariano3731
@bobmariano3731 Жыл бұрын
Make sure you cover ALL the engine & transmission issues too 😘🤛😱⚾️
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
The base 6.8 L gas engine gets the 10R100 transmission and the higher-output 7.3 L gas engine gets the stronger 10R140 transmission.... but while the base diesel gets the 10R140, the higher-output diesel gets the same 10R140, which is not rated for that engine's output. Where is the "10R170" (or whatever it might be called) that would be needed to reliably handle 1200 lb-ft of torque?
@imkindofabigdeal4308
@imkindofabigdeal4308 Жыл бұрын
There was a video on KZbin that showed parts differences between 7.3 and 6.7 10R140 versions (beefier planetary gear as an example). Heavier duty components in the diesel to accommodate the additional torque. Part number differences with non-PTO equivalents for 2022 Lariat models: 7.3 LC3Z-7000-AB and the 6.7 LC3Z-7000-EB.
@matthamilton7452
@matthamilton7452 Жыл бұрын
Game changer all right, I put 3,089 miles on my 23 and the electrical charging system went to crap. All Ford 250 and 350 are having issues and other Ford brand products have issues. Ford heavy duty are being recalled for axel issues.
@Bigbillyrayfan
@Bigbillyrayfan Жыл бұрын
When did 6.5ft bed become “standard?” 8 ft is standard, 6.5 is short bed.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Most people buying these trucks never use them as a truck anyhow, so bed length don't mean anything. At least the 6-3/4 foot bed is still usable unlike many of today's 5 foot and shorter beds.
@zackzander425
@zackzander425 Жыл бұрын
Every truck should have an 8’ bed. Anything less is a bitch boy truck.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@zackzander425 Every truck should also have only 2 doors, and manual windows and locks, and manual transmission and transfer case, with manual locking hubs....keep it simple, less crap to break...problem is most buyers today don't keep a vehicle long enough to realize how all the electronics and electrical add-ons effect the reliability of a vehicle....when windows don't work, locks don't work, etc. it creates multiple problems with not only driveability, but in some cases multiple systems in today's vehicles are effected when 1 thing stops working LOL. Although, my 88 F250 is the Lariat, and the power windows actually quit working last year, I can still fix them...I do have the extended cab, but have the 8 foot bed...parking in tight spaces becomes a fun chore, but it can be done for sure. I also have the 460 with the C6 automatic...tows great, but it must visit every gas station it runs across LOL. Many of the trucks you see running around today have 5 foot or shorter beds....well I guess that is ok, if you just buy half a 2x4 LOL. But yep, I prefer the 8 foot beds...a 10 foot would be even better at times, but the only way to get something like that is in a utility bed type configuration in the aftermarket.
@davidchelewski6164
@davidchelewski6164 Жыл бұрын
Did Ford sat when the upper three trim packages were going to arriving to the customers and dealerships?????
@giuseppeaiello4371
@giuseppeaiello4371 Жыл бұрын
ngl i’m a grad student going for a engineering degree but my gawd andre talking to these guys making me fall asleep! dude you gotta be more intriguing when your talking about your product be proud. guy sounds like he didn’t know what they did to the new motor
@aldeluca5079
@aldeluca5079 Жыл бұрын
Dude, he is an engineer, not a salesman, ease off the negativity. He did fine.
@WayApp
@WayApp Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is truly impressive!
@SUPERFLUID88
@SUPERFLUID88 Жыл бұрын
My local dealer try to sell me one of these trucks for $170000 lol good luck.
@bret9741
@bret9741 Жыл бұрын
I really like what Ford has done with the interior, the thoughtful gauges and interface. I’m not a fan of the exterior or the insane prices. It infuriates me that ford uses a basic gray headliner on all the lariats in spite of the black door and seat covering.
@Vgk36
@Vgk36 Жыл бұрын
Does it come with a free self destructing fuel pump?
@Quicksilver314
@Quicksilver314 Жыл бұрын
The trailer chain hookups on these 250's are really irritating for all 3 of my trailers.
@jamessachs224
@jamessachs224 Жыл бұрын
I find it funny how the ford looks more like a chevy up front that chevy does now days (luxury trim anyway)
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