The New BMW XM Takes On The PHEV Coffee Run Challenge! Electric Mode Driving Review

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[@KyleConner]

As we see the DC Fast Charging networks failing, perhaps a PHEV could be a good option to get us through the next few years? This video focuses on how the XM drives in the fully electric drive mode. Hope you enjoy these tests, will be running more PHEVs through it soon!

[@wt9653]

You are making it sound like all fast chargers are the same. Only the Electrify America chargers are failing due to cost cutting and bad management. Everyone needs to be like Tesla Super charger. Others get bad reviews where Super charger users gives it thumbs up. Even the governments want Tesla to share the charger stations with other EV makers. 😂 Study shows, 75% don't use plug in feature. Americans are too busy and lazy.😂

[@tazeat]

Less use of all the lithium, nickel, cobalt, etc too and not needing to lug around a 80+kWh battery while leveraging the existing ICE infrastructure, which is what Toyota has been preaching for years in their hybrids... And are just now going full EV models for better or worse.

[@John-209]

Can you do this with the Pacifica PHEV?

[@bitbat9]

Standard hybrids make sense but PHEVs really don’t honestly. You need at home charging to get the full benefit so just get an EV.

[@John-209]

@@bitbat9 I have one, and as soon as they make an electric minivan I will get that and sell the PHEV

[@jasonparry7173]

The best thing you can say is that black hides the styling as much as physically possible

[@ajlee6933]

Too bad the people that can afford these don’t want to “hide” their wealth.

[@spencer476]

I actually disagree. I think it looks fine, but I would like to see it it a few more colors to be sure. Of course, I also like my i4 styling, buck teeth and all. 😂

[@graham2890]

I kind of like the styling here.

[@ThatGuy_0815]

If you press one of the shift paddles, the combustion engine kicks in, so you can actually get that little bit more power - just do one downshift, release the throttle pedal to about 50-60% simultaneously and then roll onto the throttle again. :)

[@Gamerich-hr7fu]

but its still a cold start, i mean they probably thought about this but i still wouldnt wanna do it lol

[@andrewhurstcars]

Interesting car, but for the price of that I’d have a rwd Taycan for short to medium trips, plus a M340i for longer trips.

[@JREwing78]

I'm actually kind of amazed how much I like the styling. Apparently if you beat something with an ugly stick long enough, it actually has the opposite effect? Or, I need psychiatric care. One of those.

[@evan.435]

I've also always wondered how people aren't exploding their engines in hybrids by them kicking on max revs while cold. Would love an explanation as to how it supposedly doesn't damage the engine.

[@PhilT993]

I just checked the sales price, including taxes, here in Canada. It STARTS at $277,500 CDN. Holy Crap!!!!!!!!

[@QALibrary]

In the UK a few years now, the government took away all the tax breaks and credits/subsidies because when they interviewed a lot of company car drivers and companies that were given hybrids and saw companies using the cars to reduce their tax and also not installing low-level chargers, while the company car drivers using their fuel card and not ever plugging in the car in 99.98% of the time and use it as a self-charging EV if that.

[@omelvold]

Fun fact: In Norway, you can buy a iX50 and a Taycan 4S for the price of this.. Or a Model S and a F-150 Lightning. It’s called the polluters pay principle. 👍 (Although buyers of big and expensive EV’s also have to pay some weight tax and VAT now..)

[@user-oo3uj5ku9r]

Really love these videos! Ty!

[@CrumResearch]

Our Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4xe is a plug-in hybrid with decent motor and great drivetrain design, preserving transfer case and locking front and rear differentials. 17 kWh battery pack is useful, but doubling the capacity to 34 kWh would be a welcome improvement for future 4xe designs.

[@Abbi-Yoyo]

Kyle, Will you be doing the Coffee Run Challenge with the 2023 Lexus RX 450H+ ?

[@PCdennis]

You should test the Mazda CX60. It’s PHEV. I can charge it in 2 hours. Did have to buy a home charging station to do so. Otherwise it was 9 hours. Can drive 35 with it, but drives really nice in EV mode. Only downside is the suspension. When the road is smooth I don’t have any problems but in all other situations it’s a bumpy ride. Love the Chanel Greetings from Belgium.

[@7itese840]

Volvo PHEVs are quite annoying on that kickdown switch (full power on cold start), and they don't allow you to see the temperature of anything (the only way is to use the OBD II connected to my phone app). And to prevent the combustion engine from turning on during a slip (wet railway crossings in Boston), you need to turn off ESC (ESC Sports Mode)

[@NighteeeeeY]

360p gang

[@KyleConner]

KZbin processing has been so slow recently

[@ZacharyLivingston]

30 mins later it’s still 360p

[@normt430]

My 2018 CT6 2.0E plug-in switches over to engine at 50% throttle. Sometimes you eclipse the threshold sometimes you just how close you can get to not fire up the engine. The eCVT is pure seamless with a similar transmission configuration.

[@seanstewart285]

The 530e cranks the ICE if you pull either of the sports shifting paddles. I'm sure this does too, including a downshift if you pull the left.

[@techmarkMC]

That was one of the biggest reasons I got a 2018 Honda Clarity PHEV. It had MUCH more range than any other PHEV. When it was new it could go 47 miles with a 17kwh battery and 6.6kw charger, which was fine because it would only take 2 hours to fully charge it. I wish it had better technology and options like setting a charge percentage limit but overall it's worth it. Other PHEVs only got 25 electric miles or less which was bad. I bought it used in 2021 with 30k miles on it, now it's about 5 years old and 50k miles. It has about 85-90% of it's original capacity, although I don't know how the first owner charged and took care of the battery. I try and charge it to around 70-90% most of the time. I think PHEVs only really make sense if they can got a minimum of 40 miles, because if it's 25 miles, after 5 years the range would be about 15 miles.

[@yolanda4731]

Didn’t Honda quit making those? Wonder why

[@techmarkMC]

@@yolanda4731 They probably just didn't sell enough of them, so they decided to stop making them. They also probably realized that EVs are on the horizon so they started planning on what to do for an ev.

[@jakeringer3153]

Cold start might force the ICE to do a short warmup cycle.

[@ojasthakur3976]

It actually does. My family just took delivery of a 2024 X5 50e, and I can confirm that when the ICE is started for any reason in any mode, it remains on until it reaches operating temperature, which at 80*F ambient temp right now happens rather quickly. Curious to see how it does in the winter. So far, it seems BMW uses the same programming and logic for all their PHEVs, so the XM should be the same.

[@seanstewart285]

The styling is totally fine. The new 7 series, at first, was quite jarring for me. One year launch, there's one in my garage downstairs and it looks like a baby RR to me now. I get tons of compliments on the color and styling. I feel the same will happen-or is happening-to the XM. It looks quite fine.

[@j688en4]

Can you try to do this with the prius prime… curious about that

[@rtrt2889]

Do the RAV4 prime.i Have it and I love it. My daily commute is about 30 miles so I never have to use the ice engine

[@pooh6546]

So there is this little known car called "Prius" from Toyota which solves all of the problems of transportation for 90% people on the planet.

[@bitbat9]

Exactly lmao. I love my 2023 Prius, it’s a fantastic car

[@DJSOTO07]

Love your videos

[@paulchristenson5256]

What's with the window styling, especially after the C pillar. It looks like it has aluminum storm windows on it.

[@vhol93]

fun ones

[@beachbumis]

Love my Audi Q5 55 tfsi e. Now that the temps are warming up I am getting 33ish miles in all EV. It takes me 5-6 weeks just to use 1/2 tank of gas.

[@indigo42]

Looking forward to a Coffee Run Challenge with a Koenigsegg Gemera down the line! :)

[@DayyyumSon]

Definitely my dream car. But i wouldn't want to drive it were i live atm. Car like that needs to be driven in dubai.

[@indigo42]

@@DayyyumSon Haha! It’s designed and made in Sweden, so I don’t think there will be any problems driving a Gemera outside of Dubai :)

[@avianspies]

The only thing that sucks is this is $164K+. For that I'll keep my Lucid GT reservation, it's slightly less, fully electric and faster.

[@nafnaf0]

Would love hear your thoughts on how this compares to 2024 BMW X5 50e

[@faheemabbas3965]

The XM is so overpriced compared to other options from even BMW. It’s already been called the the most overpriced car of the decade.

[@ZacharyLivingston]

How has this been out for 30 min and KZbin still only has it in 360p

[@greenne]

Kyle-- Thank you for this video. My wife will be in the market for a new vehicle soon(she drives a 2009 Escape hybrid). Given the current state of public charging I just can't recommend an EV. A PHEV seems logical for her given her needs, Looking at the Outlander Hybrid, Kia/Hyundai phevs(Tucson/Sportage phevs), possibly volvo xc60 phev. Wondering how they do in the coffee run challenge? I'd like to maximize EV range and have it "feel" as close to a pure EV as possible. Any thoughts/recommendations?

[@nevco8774]

If you have kids and your wife needs to give ride to school and back than the best to me is Chrysler Pacifica PHEV officially just eHybrid: awesome suspension, 32 mile pure EV range as long as it is not too cold, can accelerate to 80 MPH in pure EV mode, on long trips when battery is depleted it yields 33 MPG on regular gasoline, seats are very good, the third row is good enough for adults, has built in 2 screens for second row for entertainment, one large, one smaller sun roof for third row, built in sun shades for second and third row, camera for driver to see what is going on in the back, very decent onboard charger 6.6 kW for PHEVs; except 2017 year model all others are reliable since they use Toyota style double planetary geared electric motors as transmission and tried older V6 which they had time to improve for decades, stow and go third seats and removable second captain chair seats to create a real cargo van to fit 8x4 plywood sheets. Drawbacks: only front wheel drive, no towing, when it is cold and the driver wants hit in the cabin fast always starts the engine to provide heat, no ability to choose EV or hybrid mode- the computer decides. From SUVs Mazda CX90 PHEV is AWD but third row is small and ride is poor on rough road. In fact all PHEV SUVs have a ridiculously small leg room third seat. Most SUVs have no decent MPG when battery is depleted which means most of them use serial hybrids when battery is depleted the most prominent example being Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV while Pacifica uses parallel system like Toyota RAV 4 Prime or Ford Escape PHEV. If you do not care about third row then the latter 2 is the way to go. But if you like automatic transmission shifting even in EV mode then you will be better with a PHEV from Hyundai/Kia lineup. From luxury brands BMW X5 PHEV with 31 miles and Volvo extended range 40 miles of pure EV but BMW has inefficient MPG when battery is depleted while Volvo is just slightly better. Since your wife drives an Escape then Ford Escape PHEV might be the way to go due to the best MPG when battery is depleted, decent price and better availability by comparison with Toyota but does not offer AWD. The ride is smoother then RAW4 Prime as well. If your wife does several times a day trips from home then faster built in charger is a boon: only Toyota RAV 4 Prime in upper trim and Chrysler Pacifica PHEV offer chargers with more than 6 kW capability and that crazy experience BMW from video more than 7 kW. All other PHEVs on the USA market offer only a basic slightly more than 3 kW onboard charger. That is important for several trips a day besides coffee morning run to avoid using gasoline locally. When battery is depleted and PHEV is doing stop and go city traffic except RAV4 Prime and Ford Escape PHEV all other PHEVs have worse MPG than expected even worse than gasoline ICE counterpart like in Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. The latter with BMW X5 PHEV have the best design for mild/moderate off-roading. If are still undecided go to fueleconomy.gov in advanced search select PHEV, wanted model years and body style, then learn dimensions and features by using compare tool at edmunds.com then from the list created both you and your wife have to drive those cars you have chosen.

[@user-gy7cy2it4p]

Great video. 1) What is the actual electric range in city driving? I heard if you are lucky you may get 30 miles out of full charge. What was your test like? 2) How long does it take to fully charge the car from zero to 100%? I heard different stories. Some say with Level II 3 hours and some have said 5 hours. 3) Does this vehicle qualify for the California carpool Clear Pass sticker?

[@KAZ109]

1. Yes in normal conditions ( not 10 degrees or colder) 30 is normal while others have reported 35-38mi 2. Just under 3 hrs to charge in normal conditions 3. Yes the XM qualities for the California carpool clear pass sticker

[@jimdog]

I have to remind my self this is a large, heavy SUV. I only have a 38 kWh battery and get over 200 miles on a charge (2020 Hyundai Ioniq). Totally different vehicle and no where near as nice as this BMW though haa haa.

[@Bluelightning23]

It's kind of off subject, but are you gonna get your hands on a Fisker Ocean for a review?

[@Chris-nm9uj]

He did 3 months ago, dude's ahead of the game: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWWmaqNseJymqpo

[@milanzivanovic945]

wow BMW Godzila!

[@trmon8890]

Maybe do a Rad4 Prime next?

[@billm47645]

Me personally. BMW M2 manual and a Tesla Model Y. Two cars for the price of 2/3rds one of these.

[@godofdun]

My family has a 530e and can confirm that the odd jerkiness at low speeds is not present in our car.

[@timgurr1876]

At $160K I hope it has massaging seats all around and a rear refrigerator for the beer. 😅 (And don’t forget the cinema theatre screen.) Ridiculous price to get from point A to point B. 40+ miles on electric is reasonable, but makes for sense to be 50+. I have a 25 mile one way drive just to visit my kids and grandkids. Why would I want to plug it during the visit? Just seems like a big hassle to have to worry about plugging in all the time. That’s where ICE vehicles have the biggest advantage in range. Has anyone looked at the payback for the extra cost of a hybrid over ICE? What happens in really cold temps (zero F)? I would have concerns about cold start on engine to high RPM, especially when ambient is well below freezing. The paint job is like a mirror. Thanks for the review.

[@Floridos]

Very interesting car for The Netherlands. This car is more than €40.000,- less expensive than a X5M Competition before options. All thanks to low co2 emissions during testing.

[@TomMarvan]

1:38 BMW ID?? More info please!

[@kevindavis8143]

Since the electric motor is built into the transmission, I wonder if it spins the ice in EV mode without using gas? Like in place of the flywheel or torque converter. This would lube the ice to prevent harmful full throttle starts, but would introduce parasitic loss on the electric motor.

[@kevindavis8143]

@@martyndavies1482 I cannot find any information for a zf 8sp transmission other than the standard 8hp. BMW says the electric motor is a part of the transmission, hence my speculation.

[@kevindavis8143]

@martyndavies1482 KZbin removes all comments with links to protect us, but I was able to read it. That is a great piece of engineering, thank you for sharing! I'm shocked at how small they made the torque converter. That said, I don't understand why they're risking the ice... disposable I guess 😢

[@garrettkajmowicz]

That car costs more than my house.

[@CBR2200]

I'm happy to see you slowing coming around to see the value of PHEV's. IMO they can be the perfect solution to our imperfect (non-Tesla) infrastructure situation. I daily drive mine for 'free' with solar charging at home, then use gas on road trips and enjoy improved fuel economy over the ICE model while in hybrid mode. It's win win while I'm waiting for vastly improved public charging.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

They are the perfect solution even for tesla infrastructure crap!!! People actually can go literally everywhere they can go with those PHEVs unlike EVs severely limited with range! The RAV4 prime has for example 600 miles of range and it's an excellent vehicle for overlanding unlike a Tesla.

[@tazeat]

The side looks much better than the back

[@jeffandich3894]

Thought there was a report last year claiming PHEV’s are less efficient than pure ICE, largely because their owners don’t plug them in??? Maybe that has something to do with the poor charging speeds limited by the onboard chargers??

[@jeffandich3894]

Also, why is a DCFC port on a PHEV a bad idea?

[@Zethuzzz]

Resale values for EVs is going to be a problem. PHEVs can alleviate that to some extent.

[@jeffs6090]

Sounds like unless you have the money and just want to flex, most would be better off getting the new X5 phev.

[@mychannelnotyours123]

Who is paying $3/mile for depreciation, interest, and insurance then fretting about charging speeds and battery range? Electricity might save 10 cents/mile, but only if you charge at home.

[@martyndavies1482]

I guess one's valet is instructed to plug it in!

[@DayyyumSon]

I don't like the gold trim unless I'm driving in dubai. Any other country shouts out "Rob me, I'm rich"

[@ruigirao5534]

That thing looks like a minivan. Not that looking like a minivan is a bad thing, but we have went full circle. Minivans rock. Minivans suck and SUVs rock. SUVs that look like (and basically are) minivans are the best.

[@Jeddin]

Most people buy a plug in hybrid to get a 7500 tax credit while still driving a gas car. The vast majority of PHEV never get plugged in

[@seanstewart285]

The tax credit as of recent in the US is heavily restricted based on income. An individual considering a car of this magnitude price-wise, or even say a 330e or 530e, will likely not qualify for the credit and thus will knowingly select a PHEV over the ICE variant. I don't feel your statement is factually based.

[@Jeddin]

@@seanstewart285 you seem somewhat naive to the degree people will go to save money even if they are wealthy. You realize people don’t always buy under their own name don’t you when there is an incentive not to

[@RudyOMP]

@@Jeddin this was a very condescending reply

[@peterfessier9780]

You can’t get the tax credit on the RAV4 Prime and yet there is a year long waiting list for the car many places here in the US. I think people getting plugin hybrids and not plugging them in is more in Europe where they might be highly incentivized and inconvenient for people to plug in. All the personal experience I’ve had with plug in hybrid owners and from reading Reddit posts would lead me to believe that most people with RAV4 Prime try to maximize how much they drive all electric. I prefer driving electric so I can’t imagine going back to an ICE vehicle.

[@CMCNestT]

The one credible study on charging habits of PHEVs was on Dutch PHEVs. The tax savings are massive. So Dutch people who have zero intention of plugging do buy,

[@peterfessier9780]

Kyle doesn’t really like PHEV’s but he likes fast powerful cars. The RAV4 Prime is much more efficient and it’s more powerful than this BMW in EV mode when you put the two motors together. It’s not the same size or luxury so if you want more luxury get an NX 450 + and if you want more size get an RX 450h +. My RAV4 is smooth and responsive in EV mode and the gas engine doesn’t come on unless you want it to. If Kyle knew PHEV’s he’d say skip the BWM’s and get a Lexus or Toyota. That’s based on his EV coffee run. Go into hybrid mode and the BMW is way more powerful. I think Toyota and Lexus make mediocre EV’s but they do PHEV’s well. I just can’t wrap my mind around a big inefficient $160,000 PHEV that doesn’t even give you a smooth EV ride.

[@Courtney_268]

Our Pacifica Phev does the full send cold start thing. Always bugged me. Driving on any road trip when electric range runs out at 70mph on the highway here comes the ice at 50% on cold oil after not having run for a month or two. Not intending to keep it past 50k.

[@watershed44]

The styling is HIDEOUS

[@markdc1145]

Thought I might like the XM more after seeing it in the flesh. Turns out, it's even worse than I had ever imagined. Hopefully this thing is dropped after a year or two.

[@nafnaf0]

Yeah I saw a full blakc one like this at Ralph Schomp in Highlands Ranch, Colorado (might evne be this same car). Yeah I thought it looked awful. My dad did think it was cool though. That's interesting..

[@michaelmehrer2177]

Too big. I know some people need the size but these are ridiculous.

[@SpottedSharks]

Me seeing a hybrid: Dude, shit or get off the pot.

[@tomhoots]

I'll come over to your house every night and plug my BEV into your outdoor outlet, since I live on the third floor of an apartment building.

[@loriallen67]

This is useful info. PHEVs have their use cases. Single car households in particular, may need this option until infrastructure is sufficiently developed to make EV travel on par with ICE travel regarding dependability and access. I should have bought a PHEV in 2019 when I bought my last ICE. But there were few available in my price range and I didn’t really understand the value of them. If I had understood then what I understand now, I would have bought a used C-Max PHEV. All of my daily driving would be EV and I’d have the ICE for 12 hour long road trips I make multiple times per year through rural areas.

[@leetjohnson]

@@tomhoots ever heard of a supercharger?

[@ArielBatista]

My view is pretty simple. PHEV to me are not real EVs. Besides costing so much. Besides most people that get them, normally don't plug them in. We have 2 PHEV in our complex of town homes. And none ever plug them in.

[@lancastergerard]

I love how everyone knows the ride comfort on bimmers on anything except the most manicured surfaces are absolute trash and chalk it up to ‘oh well, it’s a bmw’

[@Garrison169]

Just watching your confusion in trying to start in electric mode was enough to turn me off to this PHEV. Then you talk about the very complex drive train. Why would anyone want this?

[@nafnaf0]

You can set it up to automatically start in electric mode as standard. It's defiantly not hard in this car to drive in electric mode everyday all the time. It has enough power and range to be effective in electric mode. The transition between gas power / electric power is pretty seemless. This can not be said for all other PHEVs or even the older BMW PHEVs.

[@Garrison169]

@@nafnaf0 One reason that the electric mode has so little range is that the car has a heavy ICE and drive train. How can charging a battery with an ICE and then using that energy in electric mode be more efficient than simply powering the car with with the ICE directly? It cannot be. There are loses when charging the battery.

[@gregpochet4812]

The steps that the driver has to put a PHEV into battery only mode is the reason I think PHEVs are not good. I betcha a lot of PHEV owners are running in Hybrid mode and not knowing it, which means you should just buy a hybrid. Other cars might make putting the car into battery only mode easier..

[@RJ-nk9wb]

Another Hybrid pollution vehicle from BMW. Rivian ramp up asap plz!

[@JB-mn2gu]

I find all hybrids annoying.

[@nafnaf0]

Most all hybrids / PHEVs have annoyed me. The 2023 BMW X5 45e was the first and only hybrid I have liked. I have not driven the (ugly) Cayenne E-Hybrid.

[@watershed44]

*EVs are expensive, potentially very dangerous if they catch on fire, and outrageously prices* You'll own nothing and be happy.

[@tomhoots]

Count me in as one of those "renters" who lives in a state that has chosen to adopt California's Advanced Clean Cars II rules, which will phase out the sale of new combustion vehicles by 2035 -- and which has rendered us renters ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED about the prospect of NOT being able to "charge at home," and thus we will HAVE TO SPEND HOURS charging at public charging stations, if we want to use battery electric vehicles as anything other than parking lot ornaments. The best advice, of course, is "if you can't charge at home, don't buy a battery electric vehicle" -- but try to tell the clueless faceless government bureaucrats THAT. So, WE ARE GOING TO GET SCREWED with a battery electric vehicle future. However, Advanced Clean Cars II has some rather nebulous language that "allows plug-in hybrids," and like Obi-Wan Kenobi, "those are our only hope." But please, Kyle, please help all of the battery electric vehicle owners comprehend what the COMING NIGHTMARE will be, when millions of renters have no other way to charge their mandated battery electric vehicles other than flooding the public charging stations -- and with no other recourse, expect EVERY ONE of these folks to be charging to 100%, every time. How will your battery electric vehicle life be, when EVERY TIME, you have to wait for 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 cars in line, EVERY time you need to use a public charging station? Think in terms of how we will need "Walmart parking lots FULL of chargers at every parking space," or you WILL be waiting in lines like that. That's certainly what I'd like to see in terms of "content in one of your new channels" -- how are we ever going to "scale up" battery electric vehicle infrastructure, if batteries become the one and only means of powering personal vehicles?

[@ezpoppy55]

This is so full of FUD… Dude, chill. First off, only the sale of new (I repeat, NEW) ICE vehicles will be prohibited in CA. There’s nothing in the law that either prohibits or restricts people from driving whatever they currently drive, ICE included. Nor does the law end, restrict, or prohibit the sale or ownership, or driving of used ICE vehicles. Only NEW vehicles. (Most car sales are used not new.) In other words, the only people who will be affected are those who want to buy a new vehicle, in California. There’s no way that is going to create millions of new EV owners overnight, all fighting for limited charging stations. The infrastructure will continue to grow and become more robust, just as gas stations did over a hundred years ago. Every new technology has growing pains, but they get smoothed out. Relax. So, no, there’s not going to be a tidal wave of new EVs on the road once the law kicks in. No, not the state nor anyone else is going to come take your ICE vehicle away. And no, there are not going to be riots at the charging stations.

[@xaionik]

What a waste of money when the all electric works just as well for cheaper.

[@Anthony__420]

Another Chevy Volt

[@ulfw]

Ridiculously expensive, big, heavy and frankly ugly. It's a car of excess.

[@harriettanthony7352]

It seems to me that BMW has a LONG history of "Yugo quality" gas engines, and now put that pile of rubbish in an EV with all 'the extra things" hey, a bad idea, perhaps?

[@banon7853]

You are getting soft - that process you are describing just to get moving is ridiculous in the age of getting in a car, push on the brake, and drive. That set of configurations and buttons is the exact opposite of simplicity.

[@watershed44]

*"The Ultimate Driving Machine?"* 🤣😂🙄☹🥺👎👎