The NEW John Deere 1025r vs 2025r Feature Review

[@GoodWorksTractors]

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[@joelnickerson6739]

I like my 1025R because of the lower center of gravity. I mow a lawn that has a slope that makes me want to lean into and a taller tractor would probably be very unstable. I'm on the edge with the 1025R. The difference in price also made my decision for me too. Like them both but I love my tractor. I would like some front forks someday.

[@kavemanthewoodbutcher]

I just bought one of these a few days ago, got a super sweet deal on the tractor and a pile of attachments. Looking forward to a lot of work.

[@JohnnyRebKy]

The advantage to the 1025R being shorter with the small tires is the thing is like a damn billy goat. I have put mine into places I wouldn't DARE put a taller tractor into. The center of gravity is set low and just perfectly to crawl around on hillsides and such ( I live in Kentucky). Without having the loader full of something to cause weight shift its nearly impossible to roll over the 1025. It sticks to the ground like glue. If you got a hilly place to mow or bush hog the 1025R is the SAFER tractor. I know for a fact I would roll over the taller 2 series on certain spots on my property that I easily crawl across on the 1 series. I even parked it one time on a very steep slope and tried to rock it back and forth to see if I could get the tires off the ground.....didnt happen. That damn thing just sticks to the ground like a sports car. Gotta remember guys that with the taller height comes the easy rollover because the 2 series doesn't make up for it in width. Bigger farm tractors compensate their height by having a wide stance. The 2 series is just a taller 1025R without much width added to stabilize it. I would seriously consider that before buying if you plan on using it on rough terrain, steep hills, ect. SECOND.... You guys considering a 1025R and actually want to use it as a TRACTOR and not a glorified lawn mower......ditch the industrial tread tires right from the start. Throw on some Carlisle True Power tires with the big farm tractor lugs on them. The industrial type tires dont grip worth a damn. The farm style lug tires will dig to china. Even with wheel weights, fluid in tires, ballast box, etc.....the industrial tires will only dig in so much before they spin out. Switching to real farm tractor tread tires makes a HUGE difference in plowing and digging into the ground getting a big scoop with the loader. And despite what most people think....ive never had a problem with them tearing up the lawn just passing through or making turns.

[@67L48]

Paragraphs. They help with readability.

[@mmholling87]

@super pickle and I bet your dad is 6'6" and bullet proof, your mom is head of the PTA, and your sister is the most popular cheerleader with the football team.

[@rodbagley1686]

@67L48 I had no problem. Reading what he said. Sometimes, what you say is more important than the format you use to say it.

[@jlsmed]

Very nicely done. Thank you for the great job describing their differences. I haven’t found anywhere online that shows all the things you did!

[@atcpilot4life]

Thank you! I’ve been waiting for a video like this to pop up for a while. 👍

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Awesome, glad it helped!

[@jimbo8317]

I have a question about these redesigned 1025R & 2025R Tractors. Did they ever put in a better valve for the FEL to allow you to lift arms & curl bucket at the same time??? I know older models don't have that!!!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

It's the same as previous designs

[@tractorfriend4310]

It takes a fine touch to do so, it is easier coming down than going up. TTWT didn't seem to think you could curl and lift at the same time a few years back. Now that he has more stick time, I'd like to see him or someone else, hint, hint, ponder that again.

[@troyeager8877]

I like how you are letting TTWT use your equipment for comparison. I'm looking at 1025r and bx2380 with front loaders. I do not want belly deck. Maybe 4 foot brush cutter.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Thanks! Those are a couple good choices. I could always remove a deck from a machine I have if you're interested.

[@danielsharon524]

Would've loved to see a test of the diff. in turning radius/maneuverability bet. the two.

[@rodbagley1686]

I think Tractor Time with Tim did a comparison of a bunch of different tractors. My 1025r definitely does Maneuver will

[@justinshaw5706]

I do wish that my dealer would have brought up the 2025r when i was buying my tractor. For the price difference I probably would have got the 2025r vs the 1025r. Still, extremely happy with the 1025r especially after upgrading my seat springs! Great comparison video

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I wish I would've checked out those seat springs yesterday. Bummer! Nice to finally meet you in person!

[@justinshaw5706]

Good Works Tractors ttwt May have left them on his old tractor. Check them out compared to others you have in stock. Great to meet you as well!!

[@r0k2a0]

Definitely leaning towards the 2025R. Thanks for another great video.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I've been hearing good things for sure. Makes it a tough decision. Thanks for checking it out :)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@GoodWorksTractors Mr Zurcon, the 2025R definitely rides much more smoothly.

[@pcguysoffgridcabin]

So how hard is it to switch between a backhoe and a 3 point?

[@cory2146]

15 mins or less

[@skipduld3630]

TKS FOR THE ADVINCE AND GOOD LUCK BE CARFUL OUT THERE.

[@thehawkc]

Thanks for the review.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Welcome Cliff, have a great day!

[@jimbo8317]

Hey Good Works Tractors. I just finished watching this comparison video and quite honestly, when speaking about John Deere, I think the 2025R is a better Tractor overall compared yo the 1025R!!! To be honest, I'd much rather see Tractor Time with Tim (who I watch all the time) get that 2025R as I think, for his little business, it woukd be a better Tractor for him (just my opinion tho)!!!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Hey Jimbo, thanks for chiming in! It doesn't seem like Tim is completely out of the hunt for a larger tractor in the long term. I think had planned to keep Johnny or similar in addition to a larger tractor addition in the future. That's just my opinion based on what I've watched. Plus, the 1025r is an iconic, market changing model. He has and will continue to shed light on it's wide arrive of capabilities and uses. Thanks again!

[@davidcarleton6928]

On the rear 3 point difference is the 1025 is "limited" due to lift height. Have a 2305 which is also limited. Can handle most implements, just doesn't lift as high. My rear blade only goes up 6 or so inches when properly leveled on install. Can catch the lawn when going down the curb. Other possible issue could be with a post hold digger. On the b'hoe, great attachment! Well built with no weak points. Easy to put on and remove. Just have to remember that you are talking a sub compact tractor. Small bucket and just 25 HP. Takes time but I have removed up to twin tree stumps.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Good stuff Dave, thanks for chiming in!

[@Formulabruce]

The 2025R offers enough loader height to dump snow over a 6 ft Fence. The 1 series can't do that. I think the 2025R has about 8 or so more inches of lift. On a couple vids, you show the loader buckets at full height. ..

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Does it really? I'm gonna have to go find out today, haha! I know the old 2025r does because it has the H130 loader. This one having the same loader as the 1025r led me to believe same height. I will find out and report back!

[@GoodWorksTractors]

So I went out and took a measurement just now. The new style 2025r lifts to the EXACT same height as the 1025r. If more lift capacity and higher lift ability is needed, then the old style 2025r would be better suited or upgrading to a 2032r or 2038r. Thank you sir for bringing that up!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@GoodWorksTractors I did this test as well..same results. The loader mounts are different between the two tractors. the 2025r mounts are shorter...to compensate for the larger tires.

[@Formulabruce]

O)H, you ARE Teasing Tim now!! hehe. Great Vid as usual ...

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Lol, ya caught me :)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yea, this is cruel. GWT keeps showing my new tractor...making the wait even more difficult! I can't wait to visit Kalamazoo!

[@r1mein54]

I have had my 2025R since 2016 and yesterday had to unbend the switch bracket so my rear PTO would work - this unit is not designed to run in heavy brush.

[@clintbowen1305]

Hoping you can answer a couple of questions for me. The 2025r has about 6 more inches of wheelbase, does this show up in legroom? I'm 6'1", wondering how each might fit. My dealer doesn't have either in stock right now. 2nd question re the seat flip for the backhoe, can the yellow seat be set forward enough to use both at the same time?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I don't think there's much difference in leg room. Can't recall for sure, but I think the backhoe seat would hit the main seat.

[@steventhury8366]

1025r is great when needing to get into small areas. So I don't know why I'd go with the 2025r, because it's still not big enough for larger areas.

[@rodbagley1686]

Wonder how much difference the bigger tire size makes in the snow and mud? Not sure the difference in price between the 1025R and the 2025R. $1000. 2000 difference?

[@blakefreudenberg4865]

Can you add bora wheel spacers too a 2021 1025R with 60” mower Deck ?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Yes, just a smaller maximum size. Confirm the size with BORA.

[@mark31383]

I just got a 2018 2025R. Do you think it would handle a 5ft brush cutter? Thanks.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Good question. I do think there's situations when a 5' cutter would be fine, but I would recommend a 4' for all around use.

[@JohnnyRebKy]

The weight of the 5ft is the problem....not the power of the tractor nessicarily. I run a John Deere 4ft bush hog on my 1025R and it has enough power to chop grass that's 6 feet tall. But even a good solid 4 footer will make the tractor impossible to steer unless you have the front end loader attached or have it heavily weighted on the front. A 5 foot would be even heavier and need even more weight on the front to keep it down. I know guys who use 5 footers ON FLAT GROUND but if you have any obstacles, hills, ect then a 5 foot will cause you more headache than its worth. It will run the 4 footer like a champ and the loader attached to the front evens the load out perfectly.

[@mark31383]

Thanks!

[@JohnnyRebKy]

@@mark31383 Your welcome sir!! I recommend looking around for a older John Deere 413 bush hog. I bought mine for 500 bucks and they are built like a tank and made to last. John Deere wants a gold mine for their new 4 footers and the made in china ones at TSC look like their made out of a aluminum can. Theres a lot of the old JD 413 cutters around if you look around for them.......hell of a lot cheaper than a new frontier cutter at the dealer......and a hell of a lot better built than the off brands. JD 413 works perfectly on the 1 series and will work fantastic on your new 2025. Id also add its probably a better made cutter than the new frontier brand too......all they are is some brand painted green and then marketed by John Deere. The 413 was made by John Deere back when they produced their own attachments and made them to last. Of course if you dont mind a red cutter you cant go wrong with a Bush Hog brand cutter but you will pay big for it as well. new 4 footers are expensive no matter what brand actually.....but if you find a 413 definitely jump on it!!! Good luck!!!

[@mark31383]

Thanks! Ya have been looking for a used one. A used 5ft one is a little easier to find, 4ft ones in my area are almost impossible to find right now, but I don’t need it till the spring, so I have some time. I also looked at TSC, the reviews were horrible, and from what I’m reading good luck on trying to find parts. Thanks again. I’ll try to look for a 413.

[@skipduld3630]

DOSE J/D OFFER A 3RD FUNCTION HYD. SET ?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Good question Skip. JD doesn't offer them, but there's a great aftermarket solution that which has solved this problem. Take a look at the Artillian products. I've been impressed with the quality of their other products, but haven't used this particular item. www.artillian.com/Hydraulics.htm

[@bruceg79ify]

Is the 220 loader an option for the 2025R? I bought the 2032R for the lift capacity.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

No it's not unfortunately

[@GoodWorksTractors]

This 2018 2025r is currently for sale! Check it out! Please share with anyone in the market! www.goodworkstractors.com/product/2018-john-deere-2025r-4wd-25hp-tractor-loader-bucket-mower-for-sale/

[@catfish500mark9]

Do they share the same hydro pump?

[@Bobby-o7k]

Hi That one with back hold still valuable and how much is it ?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

It's sold, sorry

[@toddarnold2882]

I got an old john deere 4110 I'm looking for something newer at least comparable or better then that what would be ur recommendation

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Hey Todd, Something similar to that these days would be a 2 Series, most comparable is the 2025r in my opinion. Either the new or old style of it depending on your budget.

[@stever2830]

Did they change the gearing to accommodate the larger tires?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Hi Steve, good question. I don't know the definitive answer, but can only imagine it was adjusted accordingly. Thanks for watching!

[@JohnnyRebKy]

I doubt you would notice much of a difference even if they didnt change it. The transaxle in the 1025R is so stout, especially in low range, I doubt the upgrade in height would even be noticeable. Probably make it a little faster in high range, but most TRACTOR duties are done in low range. They are a little bulldozer in low range and I doubt a change in gearing was even nessisary. The transaxle is way overpowered for the size of the tractor lol

[@sirlancelot3109]

Tim really wants this 2025r instead of the 1025r - I can hear it in his voice

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Lol, maybe. I guess we'll see what happens. Stay tuned!

[@rodbagley1686]

@@GoodWorksTractors now I am wondering if I will be sorry I am getting the 1025R and not the 2025R. I think I will be happy but will have the question in the back of my mind for eternity. Can't thank you and Tim enough for your comparison videos!

[@johnmurray2627]

@@rodbagley1686 I had the same thought so opted for the 2025r so I never had to wonder “what if”

[@rodbagley1686]

@John Murray ended up with the 1025r. So far it does what I want it to do. Haven't asked much of it yet. Snow last winter, dug out a few stumps last fall. Using the grapple on some downed trees. Man, is that nice.

[@centripetalcrossfit]

So I know which you prefer given the money. But now I’m the used market I’ve got a choice. Same money same hours same attachments, any reason not to get the 2025?

[@arnehelland6015]

I dont understand downgrading the 2025 to share parts with the 1025 , I have a 2016 2025r and reducing capabilities seems silly

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I agree Arne. I'd love to hear an explanation for this rationale from John Deere.

[@arnehelland6015]

@@GoodWorksTractors I customized a 7.5 ft western plow for my FEL and its definitely not light, new models should be stronger not weaker. If they made the loader stronger on the 2025 but compatible to the 1025 with less lift I could see that for production and cost reasons.

[@kengalaska1684]

Will John Deere be coming out with a new model change in 2020 for the 1025R? Not sure how often they make a model change.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Great question Ken, but with the redesigned 1025r debuting in 2018, I think we're going to see the 1025r for at least a few more years.

[@72tx340]

Are the two motors the same

[@GoodWorksTractors]

No, but similar

[@mrbubetube]

Why is TTWT getting a new 1025R?

[@stenny1970]

Its used.

[@realtimeadventure1297]

What is the speed (mph) of the 1025r and 2025r

[@jolanni7]

At what point do I get the unwanted regen?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

You'll see this Tier 4 requirement when you get above 26HP.

[@jolanni7]

@@GoodWorksTractors Love that 2025. Never should have sold our 2305. Back looking at green thanks to TTWT. Been watching his videoes, can't beat those little machines. Very well made.

[@deanlimbacher6946]

They took away the tractor draw bar made them cheaper,don't like that !

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I agree

[@Gatnor]

Why did the previous owners sell these with only 50 hours? Is there something they didn't like? Did they switch to orange?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Great question tag. Lots of reasons really. Some of the more common reasons include too small or too large a tractor, not using them enough, life changes (moving, lost job, divorce, etc). I don't think switching to another brand is very high up there as most of my JD tractors come from JD dealers and Kubota's come from Kubota dealers. Hope that helps a little bit!

[@Gatnor]

Thanks for the reply! Your videos are great. You should have way more subs.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Haha, thanks! I agree, lol!

[@JohnnyRebKy]

I still have mine.....but I think what happens is everything they wanted to do with the tractor gets done so quickly they dont know what else to do with it afterward LOL. I had so many things to do and my little 1025R cut my time and effort in half to get them done. I got it all done so fast and then sat and thought " what the hell am I gonna do with this thing now?". So now that everything is done it pretty much sits in the barn unless I mow with it or use the box blade occasionally. I think when people get to that point they decide the payment isnt worth it. Me however keep things for life so my purchase was a lifetime investment and it will probably live longer than I will and im 34 years old lol.

[@adamaustin3373]

on used tractors and you still get JD special 0% financing? that's only reason I'm looking at new is due to that 0% interest...

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Good question. 0% is only on new equipment. However, nothing is for free. The interest is simply built into the cost of the machine. Couple this problem with the fact that you lose 15-20% as soon as you take ownership of it and it starts to make buying new much less appealing. Low hour, pre-owned equipment has already incurred the largest chunk of that depreciation. Financing used equipment can often be done at fairly low interest rates and you always have the option to pay off sooner as well and maximize that cost savings by minimizing interest paid.

[@adamaustin3373]

@@GoodWorksTractors true, ball park, Around what is the lowest interest rate you have seen on used tractors? I'm looking for a new..or possible used 2032R

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Typically around 5% depending on your individual credit situation.

[@adamaustin3373]

@@GoodWorksTractors sounds good. where are yall located again?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

@@adamaustin3373 I'm in Kalamazoo, Michigan. However, we can ship pretty much anywhere.

[@jodyhardy8631]

You avoided the main Issue who make the tractors ? They say johndeere but who makes them?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

I'm not sure how it's an issue? John Deere makes them.

[@jodyhardy8631]

@@GoodWorksTractors I know Myanmar use to make them , butt who makes them now ,john deere just assembles them , or did johndeere finally decided to make them their self

[@GoodWorksTractors]

John Deere now makes them. Plus, a good product is a good product. These are most definitely a good product :)

[@derekjohnson4947]

Not too many manufacturers make all their own stuff. Ford dont build 100% Ford Chevy dont build 100% chevy. That's just how the world works

[@andymackenzie9872]

Jody Hardy err, that's a country you dipstick...

[@donniecook8438]

Buy a 5000s series and be happy. Those lil tractors do not have enough hpm.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Only if I can put a 48" belly mower on it, haha!

[@davidcarleton6928]

Tractor size depends on YOUR requirements. I have 6 acres and my 2305 (older version of 10xx series) fits just fine. Would go bigger with larger acerage or heavier work requirements.

[@CynicalDad81]

He should’ve bought the 2 series. 😐

[@RickPatrickSummerIsComing]

Please learn to hold a shot. The constant camera movement was making me ill. Love your tractors.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Need a Dramamine for the motion sickness? :) Thanks for watching!

[@RickPatrickSummerIsComing]

@@GoodWorksTractors I got used to it. ;-) Remembering to "hold the shot" is something you have to actually think about when shooting because what can seem slow while recording, actually seems more natural when viewing. It takes practice. I suck at it and really have to try hard to think about it when recording. It really helps when editing too. You get some extra video to work with when you need it.

[@chrisspence3216]

Looking at a 2038 or I have a lead on few year old 3320r can’t decide I’ve asked everybody lol

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Lol, in my opinion, there is no perfect tractor. You're always sacrificing something.

[@chrisspence3216]

So true I dunno what to do it’s my first one mostly horse arena work and hobby sized ranches in my Niehbor hood . Do have to brush hog a few larger 2-5 acre lots a few times a year or I would be buying a subcompact most likely so now it’s a compact and might as well get the 2038r or this used 3320r both great I guess . Any problems with the 3320r anyone know ?

[@GoodWorksTractors]

No prevalent issues that I'm aware on the 3320. Some things to look out for though...there's two different loader options which offer a different lift capacity and lift height. 300x, H160, and 300r vs 300cx, H165, and 320r. Some will have mid PTO, some won't. Some are equipped with HD buckets, some standard. Some are Power Reverser and some are Hydro. So, those are things you need to consider when you see a 3320 or 3120, 3520, 3720, 3033r, 3039r, and 3046r.

[@chrisspence3216]

The one I’m getting tomorrow has heavy duty loader bucket 300x

[@skipduld3630]

ALL U GUYS LIVE OUT WEST, IN HARRINGTON, DEL. ALL THEY SELL IS A 2032e or a 2038e iv NEVER SEEN A R THAT SIZE. @@chrisspence3216

[@jessejuno5317]

That backhoe looks cheap

[@GoodWorksTractors]

What in particular and what are you comparing against? Thanks for watching!

[@jessejuno5317]

@@GoodWorksTractors I do own a Kubota B21. But I'm not comparing it to anything. The backhoe looks fragile to me. No insults intended.

[@GoodWorksTractors]

No, none taken. Just wondering what you noticed. They look and feel stout in person. Very similar to the Kubota BX backhoe. These are small frame tractors, so not going to get as big and beefy as what's found in larger frame sized machines or mini excavators. Thanks again!

[@JoseAntonio-pb7nd]

I can ensure your the backhoe on that machine isn't cheap.

[@skeets6060]

Friends don;t let friends drive green tractors

[@GoodWorksTractors]

Lol! To each their own my friend :)