The New Valorant Meta Will Be HORRIBLE!

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Thinking Man's Valorant

Thinking Man's Valorant

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@tropycalGG
@tropycalGG 13 сағат бұрын
Bro about to lose his mind when he realizes that Ascent and Icebox are coming back😂
@LongNguyen-xt1hx
@LongNguyen-xt1hx 13 сағат бұрын
Oh cmon man ascent is back?
@LongNguyen-xt1hx
@LongNguyen-xt1hx 13 сағат бұрын
​@@andyluan7183breeze is not that bad tbh but i'm a yoru player so what do i know
@AdilKhan-uq2nm
@AdilKhan-uq2nm 13 сағат бұрын
Wait they already mentioned the next map rotation?
@tropycalGG
@tropycalGG 13 сағат бұрын
@@AdilKhan-uq2nm Patch 10.4
@Evan-xs8ts
@Evan-xs8ts 13 сағат бұрын
​@LongNguyen-xt1hx it's one out of two good maps in the game and the only one where post plant spam isn't viable.
@inuis3024
@inuis3024 13 сағат бұрын
played against a lotus comp in a scrim that was: astra, tejo, deadlock, raze and fade. they literally had all five agents dump a main with the astra and tejo already on b and a player to rotate to b through secret
@hastyscorpion
@hastyscorpion 12 сағат бұрын
I am confused, isn’t that kind of terrible? Can’t you just walk C then while they have wasted a shit ton of util?
@inuis3024
@inuis3024 12 сағат бұрын
@ we did that, and after a couple rounds they adapted and put deadlock with astra on C, still 4 agents dumping a main
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 9 сағат бұрын
@inuis3024 But dumping A main really isn't that new lol
@inuis3024
@inuis3024 9 сағат бұрын
@ except from when it was up to your own spawn in util
@flaym.
@flaym. 12 сағат бұрын
If you think about it - this is the meta Riot has been inviting players to delve into for a while. The most recent two sentinels severely punish fast aggression and they've been nerfing movement duelists at the same time
@mantleg.9858
@mantleg.9858 13 сағат бұрын
Spacing is super important for trading in valorant. This development makes being near one another dangerous. I wonder what they will do? I don't think iso wall or cove blocks nades. Trap plays for common plant spots have been a thing for ages.
@Arten_380
@Arten_380 12 сағат бұрын
As a Deadlock main since day one I don't wanna this, because they're revert the gravnet changes.
@Malam_NightYoru
@Malam_NightYoru 8 сағат бұрын
the gravnet changes have no impact on proplay, it mostly was for ranked, so i doubt it.
@AUG_Glow
@AUG_Glow 7 сағат бұрын
What was the gravity net change? The dodge thing? Wouldn’t you want to revert that?
@abrawolf
@abrawolf 7 сағат бұрын
​@AUG_Glow they increased its radius by 40% ish and made the lock effect permanent until taken off. Release deadlock had a much smaller net that autounlocked the people it caught after about 4 seconds or so. Release deadlock was actually trash ass and probably part of why tejo is a little overtuned on his signature
@hikaruyoroi
@hikaruyoroi 41 минут бұрын
Wait until they overtune the sensors in the buff they announced is coming. The sensors are already very good pieces of utility if you know what you're doing.
@gun2334trx
@gun2334trx 13 сағат бұрын
Upcoming agent gotta have a trophy system ability
@tobe.moemeka
@tobe.moemeka 12 сағат бұрын
The problem with that is it might be very OP. Like if it doesn’t counter air strike abilities than it would be useless against Tejo but if it does counter them than it could deny whole ultimates which I don’t think is very fair. Maybe it could only last for a short period of time so you can bait it out
@CutiesPatootied
@CutiesPatootied 12 сағат бұрын
@@tobe.moemeka kayo denies ults
@tobe.moemeka
@tobe.moemeka 11 сағат бұрын
@@CutiesPatootied yeah but you can break a kayo knife position somewhere else. A trophy system for example could be placed inside of a safe position like lamps and there’s literally no way to break it because it eats every ability
@azuresky7453
@azuresky7453 9 сағат бұрын
there should def be a way to counter mollies post plant
@dean988
@dean988 2 сағат бұрын
@@tobe.moemeka I think it should act similar to Jagers traps from rainbow six siege. If one util flies past it's range then it deletes that util, so it wouldn't delete a whole ultimate but if Tejo threw his signature out and it flies within the trap's range on its way to its placement then it gets deleted. Maybe the trap can only delete one util every 15 seconds and it makes a loud sound when its active so the enemy team knows they have to sacrifice some util to get in or try to peek the trap to break it, making it not too OP but still a very useful ability
@xanman2003
@xanman2003 54 минут бұрын
Watch this be like the outlaw where everyone was talking about how it’s going to be oppressive and then like 4 teams use it consistently and the rest use it incredibly sparingly
@GabeRateliff
@GabeRateliff 13 сағат бұрын
Can we talk about the Vikings game…
@castled4744
@castled4744 11 сағат бұрын
We got util dumped
@saadhasan1005
@saadhasan1005 6 сағат бұрын
Meanwhile Riot: Valorant is a FPS aim/gun focused game and we want to keep it that way. 😅
@dean988
@dean988 2 сағат бұрын
I like that a new agent is strong on release finally, but I don't like that Tejo has basically no counterplay, and that is going to combo in a bad way with other agents
@Zeicon117
@Zeicon117 2 сағат бұрын
Does this mean agents like omen and yoru might come back as a counter play? With yoru, raze, and omen they can easily both bait or use get out of jail cards to burn more of teams utility letting them do it early on the round and then slow it down. Not only that but agents like Omen, yoru, and raze would still have their best part of the kit for a hit like paranoia (best blind), yoru’s clone and blinds, and raze’s nade. Pair this by giving up an initiator and setting up viper, retaking space anywhere or putting question marks around the map would be much easier with viper’s wall and orb combo, blocking off a lot of vision for the enemy.
@Pickle75482
@Pickle75482 8 сағат бұрын
couldnt this mean sage could acctully become meta again with a sage wall for stopping spam post plants and her slow to combo with raze and tejo
@krystaelxmeht8429
@krystaelxmeht8429 5 сағат бұрын
Tejo has one of the highest ceiling and lowest floors we have seen in forever
@retromap10
@retromap10 12 сағат бұрын
there wont be a sinlge map in vct where tejo isnt played, get ready for the most boring vct season in history alongside the most oppresive agent on release somehow being cleared to use in vct this early in his release
@saibotshawdow5090
@saibotshawdow5090 8 сағат бұрын
Rather have that then cypher
@AUG_Glow
@AUG_Glow 7 сағат бұрын
There was a certain meta in 2022 always containing one agent yet the season wasn’t boring
@nhiil4495
@nhiil4495 5 сағат бұрын
⁠@@AUG_Glowi mean chamber was broken but at least u needed to shoot ur gun, just like the neon/jett meta, yes its absurdly broken but at least fun to Watch, tejo is boring to play and to Watch
@fabiosamuco2561
@fabiosamuco2561 5 сағат бұрын
Guys turn the audio down before you start watching this video at night, bruv almost woke up my whole family
@chezcak486
@chezcak486 6 сағат бұрын
we never really had a sentinel for this map that hard countered the viper lurk up a short. I’m glad that vyse has found her niche, even if it is only on a couple maps. Also still glad to see skye on bind.
@namonai
@namonai 12 сағат бұрын
Tejo breach raze deadlock will go crazy
@simba3610
@simba3610 10 сағат бұрын
Brim/Astra too. Crazy but Omen might be pushed out of the meta for a little bit
@AUG_Glow
@AUG_Glow 7 сағат бұрын
@@simba3610omen will never be pushed out of meta lol, his blind and versatility is too good, what we’ll see is a mix
@Nas0630
@Nas0630 5 сағат бұрын
Man, this guy is so good, he should host a podcast
@PlayfulCloud3
@PlayfulCloud3 9 сағат бұрын
as a vyse main since day 1, this does put a smile on my face
@gamist8166
@gamist8166 10 сағат бұрын
As an outsider on ow/rivals, feels like Valorants spotlight has left at least 20% and now they need a chamber level release to excite people. I wish they saw they have an amazing esport, but the ranked and casual environment both, but especially ranked, is horrible. No unlock system i cant even talk with my team about comp unless i wanna not play duelist or maybe stack with friends, no replay system so as a flash initiator if a flash doesnt hit, my best bet is to literally record the game and go into custom game to replicate it AND i might need a buddy to test why it didn't hit there, like this went from a damn 2 minute check in the much needed replay system, to like 30 mins just to critique my own flash. Locks are one thing that bring toxicity too, but there's more. When you're in-game, the standards for the community are pretty low. Im sure you know what i mean, going 0-3 and it's a surrender vote, more often than it should be. I dunno, i wanna love this game but it's obvious riot's ONLY solution to any issue ever, is more maps or more agents.
@iConan310
@iConan310 13 сағат бұрын
Looks like icebox is coming back next rotation then.
@tsoruu
@tsoruu Сағат бұрын
That's why Tejo is given silence on his kit... My prediction would be Kayo Tajo team to counter Vyse Deadlock team...
@DP-md4jf
@DP-md4jf 3 сағат бұрын
Bro just discovered utility combos
@pizzaboy12321
@pizzaboy12321 11 сағат бұрын
I think the meta should Raze, Astra, Tejo, Fade, and Viper. You still have almost just as much kill potential with Astras suck, and fades sieze. While also having incredible A take capability on ATK. Just look at how easy you can take showers with tejo/astra and A short with viper orb/wall.
@astroblaster
@astroblaster 6 сағат бұрын
Tbh love these new combos and comps, its really boring to see same comps on same maps from years back. The only time weird comps were viable was chamber meta. So really excited to see new combo vombos. Also, Vyse and Deadlock makes a lot of sense even on attacking side since Vyse has flash with info, deadlock wall and grav-net, and they both cover each other's weaknesses. Not to mention TEJO will be Chamber of this Event.😷
@some1upyon
@some1upyon 6 сағат бұрын
Sova was right nowhere to run
@TheCookieCook
@TheCookieCook 8 сағат бұрын
This new meta is going to be explosive and I’m here for it
@payloinfinite3435
@payloinfinite3435 8 сағат бұрын
Viper, similar to kj ... Can be paired well if utility were used synergistically. Brim is an option, as well as Astra. Jett (preferred raze due to Nades but shes not meta anymore) Tejo (Comp built around him) KJ (combination of killjoy ult, plus tejo Armageddon would be power but how likely are both ults available same rd? 🤔) Sova (additional info to assist in using Tejo to his full capacity)
@payloinfinite3435
@payloinfinite3435 8 сағат бұрын
Killjoy is interchangeable with cypher. Cypher kit is very info gathering heavy and does provide good defense control on defense but im tempted to see how some of these agents can be used together to complement each other. So I would prefer killjoy just to see how that works out, outside of theory. Also I think it would be fun 😂
@Saul30119
@Saul30119 13 сағат бұрын
when will tejo be available in vct?
@tropycalGG
@tropycalGG 13 сағат бұрын
@@Saul30119 starting tomorrow he will be available
@itsCynos
@itsCynos 12 сағат бұрын
Yo sup Starman 🗿
@effluxi9587
@effluxi9587 12 сағат бұрын
The first week of CN kickoffs was the only time he was disallowed for, he's allowed as of tomorrow
@Revy79
@Revy79 Сағат бұрын
This is a good time to introduce agent bans to valo.......not more than one eaxh team
@foreverliterallynobody
@foreverliterallynobody 10 сағат бұрын
Tejo does turn up to be really good - 💀. He is broken ngl
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 13 сағат бұрын
I think the lack of Viper (not because she can't work) is evidently a good thing because it shows Valorant overall is a place of a healthier meta with agent viability. That being said, I don't think the Tejo "situation" is going to be that bad because- what are you going to give up for Tejo? As seen here, Deadlock/Vyse provides synergy together (and probably Viper counter) but what would you give up for Tejo? Deadlock who combos great with both or Vyse who has a flash/info and a wall to stop a lurk? It's a pretty good spot for the game to be in if there is so much agent viability and hopefully VCT doesn't disappoint.
@paraniro2625
@paraniro2625 12 сағат бұрын
ths is just a metashift. We see this in Ascent before and there are teams that use this in Split. So there will come a time that Riot will address this because they want to prioritize gunplay over spam of utilities
@retromap10
@retromap10 12 сағат бұрын
he will be played by likely every team, he has a potential of 4 nades each round each one can kill a 150 hp agent, also stackable for some reason not useful but its there. easy to use stun which is incredibly strong. an ultimate that can take away so much space and put people out of position, you cant play through it like you can against breach, and unlike breach u can position the ult however you want breach needs to be in a good location to ult. dont think his drone will get many scans but it will play more like a skye dog for info and less about hitting the actual ability.
@tobe.moemeka
@tobe.moemeka 12 сағат бұрын
You could replace the Skye. You would lose a little info on the defense side but combo potential and executes would be better
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 9 сағат бұрын
@@tobe.moemeka Could replace Skye maybe but the combo potential only really works when you have info. Even this game they had the info to do the combos because of how their setup was but also had info gathering.
@krystaelxmeht8429
@krystaelxmeht8429 5 сағат бұрын
Nova is winning Champs 2025
@shanty2782
@shanty2782 11 сағат бұрын
Boring utility meta for vct , jett op meta when?
@dziugazz
@dziugazz 13 сағат бұрын
how is this horrible exactly? I much rather see these cool things than the ratty viper stupid things
@Soyenv1
@Soyenv1 13 сағат бұрын
“cool”😂
@dziugazz
@dziugazz 12 сағат бұрын
@@Soyenv1 since when is "combos Valorant" a bad thing? also I didn't finish the video and said that, but the title is clickbait and he never says that.
@MuttonErase
@MuttonErase 11 сағат бұрын
​@dziugazz is watching one team turtle every round on defense interesting?
@rice2meatu
@rice2meatu 10 сағат бұрын
The “horrible” is to invite discussion and engagement It actually may be a nice change of pace
@AdilKhan-uq2nm
@AdilKhan-uq2nm 13 сағат бұрын
TMV creaming out of his pants looking at these combos fr
@oah1943
@oah1943 12 сағат бұрын
playing against tejo sucks
@adoholic0810
@adoholic0810 13 сағат бұрын
holy
@ThomasEhm-lm1nr
@ThomasEhm-lm1nr 13 сағат бұрын
The start of a TMV video and things are VERY VERY strange 🤢
@reignwarner
@reignwarner 13 сағат бұрын
S t r a n g e
@tsito53215
@tsito53215 13 сағат бұрын
First
@Sandesper
@Sandesper 12 сағат бұрын
Why would you play Deadlock in that comp when Breach exists, and has wAYYYY better combos with Tejo than Deadlock
@hastyscorpion
@hastyscorpion 11 сағат бұрын
What? No he doesn’t. Deadlock restricts movement so that the Tejo util can actually hit. Breach does not do that at all.
@MuttonErase
@MuttonErase 11 сағат бұрын
​@hastyscorpion if you're gonna play double initiator with tejo using an info initiator is gonna be better otherwise your only info is gonna be the one tejo drone and whatever info your sentinels can get you.
@JoseTDFan
@JoseTDFan 10 сағат бұрын
Deadlock is better at Bind than Breach too
@squeak3064
@squeak3064 13 сағат бұрын
1 minute 1 view bro fell off!!!
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