The New World Situation is a Disaster

Amazon teased an announcement for months about the future of New World, building up hype until the Game Awards.
The ensuing announcement has resulted in review bombing and general frustration beyond just the announcement but more so about how frustrating their communication has been...and well...the fact that they now call their MMO an Action RPG.
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[@Infamous_wu13]

I wish I can go back to the first 3 weeks of this games release, life was different then

[@freshairkaboom8171]

Everyone says the launch was horrible, but those were some of my favourite moments in gaming. I think the game was meant for launches and not so much for longevity.

[@chinhphan4787]

Before all the bugs revealed themselves? 😂

[@BrandonShere]

me too, those days will live on in my head forever. beautiful time of life

[@KushbiZ]

No lie....been playing MMOs since 2006. First month of New World and the first couple weeks of Aion were some of the most fun ive had in mmo's.

[@dopeness5848]

@@KushbiZ how the fuck have you been playing since 06 and not say the greatest one of all time WOW.

[@MadraRrua]

The people still playing (I include myself into that) are the most loyal bunch you could wish for and everyone of us was kicked in the nuts.

[@violetlight8138]

when I played it a year and a half ago I loved it but, I hated the bots and there were some bugs that really irritated me with the housing. I would set up bot traps and they would run into my tent and couldn't get by for a while. Sometimes there were bots that had actual people behind them and they would camp the nodes and not let anyone else come and get them. I don't like PVP and I was sick of having to fight actual people to get any of the mats. That was really tough. It made it really hard to get enough materials to increase a craft. The story was completely lacking. The world is amazing. So gorgeous and the houses and furniture are incredible. It was what I liked the most. My ex partner and I had a cool company named 'Follow the Rabbit'. It was very cool.

[@LeviathanVIII]

Radio silence for two weeks right after they started an attempted hype campaign. They know they screwed up.

[@nathans1787]

Wasn’t interested in New World as an MMO. Definitely not interested in it as an ARPG. Speaking of classic MMOs, though, I spotted a corpse in Timorous Deep on the EverQuest Teek server named “Redbeardflynn.” Must just be a coincidence. 😉

[@Mystical_Goddess]

They're trying to sell it as an ARPG because that's better marketed for Console, it's only a trick of the words, to try and trick console players.

[@bradgraeff1]

Sounds like they are scared to say MMO because that will scare a lot of console players away.

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

Shitting on your future players isn't smart

[@LoyalHulk07]

The Devs have always been out of touch. All the decisions they make are from spreadsheets. And they obviously don’t play their game.

[@McDudes]

they only fish and gathers and maybe play an instrument

[@-mayo-]

They knew what they were doing. It was all testing and prep for a console release. This is their 1.0 release. That’s why they focus on the early game so much when people begged for end game content. Once it hits console they might start on end game content since that’s all that’s left at that point, but far too late for their current player base at that point.

[@m_rod9562]

They busy playing Dragonflight

[@Icabod-os6rg]

@@-mayo- You do realize that this is the 3rd release of the game? It had an initial release, a reset half way thru, and now this. No new content. If you believe that AGS will change their ways after this final cash grab. You are living under a rock.

[@bugskees146]

i was p[art of the original dev teams alpha test back in 18/19 and man, they didnt listen to our feedback at all and actually seemed to actively do the opposite.

[@W9HJBill]

The Devs and their marketing department are a bunch of out of touch idiots. Plain and simple. I'm honestly waiting for AGS to "pull a Disney" and start blaming the players for what just happened.

[@TaurielWoW]

uh players are the issue bud...the whole healer issue was because few players cried same with the stun/cc change same with the way they handled 1st year they listened and they lost more players due to the chages.

[@W9HJBill]

@@TaurielWoW Seriously? When was the last time you ACTUALLY played New World? You have a lot of game videos on your channel, but the last one was November of 2021 ... 2.5 years ago. You obviously haven't played the game in YEARS. Just look at this thread and see all the other people comment on how the Devs are out of touch, and yet I'm the one who think it's the players problems? I have over 1394 hours in the game and played this morning, I think I have a MUCH better handle on the state of the game than you.

[@BRADLIKESPVP]

Let PC players wait for 6+ months while constantly hyping up their big announcement in June, only for it to be basically just a console port and some minor content that won't last longer than a week or two. All of that while trying to rebrand and repackage the same lackluster game riddled with bugs to unsuspecting console players for a quick cashgrab and showing a middlefinger to the PC community. Perfect case study on how to run an MMO with a great foundation into the dirt.

[@arktos5620]

does it really surprise anyone that Scott Lane and the others are out of touch with what players want in their game? The guy is like a 65 year old boomer who should be leading a lawn bowling team not a MMO

[@imoldnews]

I thought people wanted people in their game? Not sure how increasing the potential population by the sum of all PS and Xbox players doesn't accomplish that.

[@Lunathean]

Old player here, They kind of did us super dirty. I felt so backstabbed every time they spoke, I lowkey lost over 300K+ gold because of their stupid updates that made ZERO sense! On top of killing off my entire server and having delays on delays on the "merge". And killing off the server they had us merge too, And offering a "Transfer" that NEVER came and I was left for dead with over 600 hours spent and every piece of progression I've done undermined and all motivation killed. Anyways to get to the point I feel like them charging 30$ for content is WILD, the game is less than that on a sale $15.99 I checked. So they're asking TWICE the box price for an expansion that is only going to spilt the player base because not everyone going to want to pay for that. Kind of wanted to get back into it but saw the 30$ and left a sour taste in my mouth and said NAH, rather go to a game that doesn't suffer from an monthly crisis.

[@SyphonGaming]

Yeah same boat as you. I had played the beta tests and liked the game when It first came out then all the problems and end game came about and made me lose interest for a while. Once I had came back to buggy messes and them saying they wouldn't honor cross region transfers anymore I decided to make a character on my home region and play that but having to grind so much again made me lose interest and now to get back into the game I have to pay $30 for a dlc is wild and i will not support them as that was another broken promise. They said there would be no pay to win content or paid dlcs ever and they lied

[@douglasduda9826]

I loved how they punished everyone for fishing (bots) when they used to give a bit of gold in the rare fishing chests and then they removed it and never added ANYTHING else...and the games still filled with bots...farming...

[@brkenppt2222]

Imagine playing New world 😂

[@crush3688]

Who cares if it's labeled MMO or aRPG? It's the same game. The problem is that Scot Lane is a fucking liar. People are tired of the delays, bugs, and broken promises. Anyone who has been around long enough knows this.

[@ogdanco5638]

@@crush3688 Thank you dear lord

[@ogdanco5638]

Thank you dear lord

[@raf0419]

It's so damn annoying. There is so much to like about this game but the leadership just can't get it on the right track. I loved my time with it but the decisions are just mind blowing.

[@uhBurrito]

It's even crazier for them to try and catch the ARPG hype train. New World as an ARPG is just a bad ARPG. It feels like mom I want elden ring, we have elden ring at home. New World.

[@terps710]

Spot on!

[@MrTmac2023]

arpg = games like diablo and path of exile. not elden ring. unless parameters have changed a lot in the last year or two . o.0

[@Vitnir]

So what happens if I do not have the Angry Earth dlc? Am I just locked out of the game I paid for? That sounds a bit illegal

[@RealNDepaula]

You can still play up to max lvl 60 but you won’t get mounts or the dlc quests. It’s shitty what they are doing!

[@mgaming7]

It’s a dead game. Just give up and stop playing it. The Only option is to turn this into a downloadable ARPG and close down the mmo servers. They’ve lost 99.9% of their players. The .1% are all that’s left. Calling it an mmo hurts the game. Calling it an ARPG makes it seem like it’s not dead.

[@Allhavengames]

I feel like im living in some kind of f**** upside down world, how is this stuff even possible, game after game releasing shit that makes no sense

[@thefawnci1593]

They aren’t saying it’s an MMO because my guess is they are going to get rid or limit the best of features such as war and OPR. This is an obvious cash grab of a failed project by incompetent devs that are getting the hammer from the man.

[@PWReviews]

My thoughts is because MMO for console players could be considered World of Warcraft. Alot of young console players could be thought of as those who play Fortnite or call of duty and so perhaps calling it an ARPG sounds like the Witcher or dragon age. So to them it could sound cooler than saying MMO. I don't believe they are getting rid of any aspects of the game. Though anyway anyone could be right or wrong at this stage.

[@TheSheepDipped]

Sounds design was the first thing i noticed when I played New world. It was SO good, the echoing of trees, players mining ore. Top notch, I do not understand how the sound design team is so far ahead of everything else in the game. The icing on the cake, why I will not go back after about 3k hrs is the healing. Healing flat out not fun. Then in this "action combat" system people are forced to stand in a circle for heals. IDK why that alone made it past alpha. This game was so close to being amazing, AGS totally screwed the pootch. I have a ton of resentment because I spent so many hours just hoping at some point the game would get better.

[@jamesdenny1131]

I bought the base game. I WAS going to try Aeternum. I WILL NOT be buying the expansion. So I guess I won't be returning to try Aeternum. Good job AGS. If you think I'm going to fall for this trick to buy your shitty expansion that I already passed on, you're delusional.

[@aljnddlgdl]

I know im late on this and yet this worries me that their future LoTR mmo will follow the same path as New World.

[@IOSARBX]

Redbeardflynn, amazing content bro

[@Redbeardflynn]

Wow. You're too kind! Thank you so much!

[@williamflick9246]

Oddly enough I have been in a kick for crafting in games, and thought I'd go back to New World because I remember loving the gathering/crafting loop. Then all this hit and I am not sure where I am with it now. hope AGS clarifies what is going on.

[@Emperor_of_Sands]

I will never forget the magic the launch of this game brought. Prob the best two weeks of gaming I've had since the old COD days. Sad to see it fail so badly.

[@VonVisualsOfficial]

I feel like the minority here, but I finally plan on buying the DLC after this announcement. To me the game is the perfect RPG. I don’t care for the MMO aspect. The world is beautiful, the community is knowledgeable, and I don’t have to pay monthly for it.

[@Redbeardflynn]

I hope you'll find hours of enjoyment out of it. That's all we can really ask for in games after all!

[@mattstansbeary3068]

The issue is simple We are rich Trillionaires and we are bored lets make a Game that we have no idea what we are doing.

[@Mrjvc163]

I really want to download the game again. We did expeditions with my friends and a bunch of oprs and guild wars. This game is so hard to break into end game content. You need perfect gear with the perfect perks for a perfect build to participate. This is actually a fun game and I enjoy the unique combat mechanics. I quit right after doing m2s for the snow expedition. Just got boring.

[@Al-ny8dr]

I'm glad I was smart enough not to waste my time even bothering with this "game". I knew they were going to eventually tell their player base to smile, and bend over.

[@hardxkor6561]

It's sad to see the current state of MMOs. I am always drawn in by the flashy new graphics, combat systems, things that I believe MMO's are lacking at times, and then I start playing them and I think to myself "This just isn't it...". I am OG Everquest/Classic WoW player and as of late, I have been playing Villagers and Heroes by indie developers Mad Otter games because THEY get it. The graphics aren't top of the line but the depth of the game, the replay-ability factor, the gearing system, the raids, the crafting, it's all there. Some of the zones I have played in are bar none the coolest zones I've ever seen in an MMO. If you can look at old school graphics, it's a game I hope more check out. There is no PVP in this game though so if you're a PVP player it might not be exactly what you want but if you enjoy PvE that scales, it's great.

[@mercster]

All these PC players are whistling past the graveyard, upset they aren't getting shiny new toys and the announcement was solely for new players on console. Wake up call: Amazon is many things, but one of them is not stupid. They will not continue to throw bad money after good. New World's current PC population means it is swiftly heading to maintenance mode, and shutdown sooner than later. It makes sense for them to see console as the one hope to get the game back up to healthy player levels. Boggles the mind that people don't understand that.

[@Raviis]

"Of the MMO" lmao lost it 🤣 I'm just coming back to this game and IDK I'm loving it and excited about what this COULD mean... though it's likely copium lol.

[@AJ_Stone]

I played since before launch. 9k + hours, a few bucks in the store, 3 maxed out characters. I don't care about MMO/RPG labelling. What i care about is brain dead devs, the lies, the BS promises, the bugs, the servers, etc. The game really is dead. Die hard players still hang around hoping for change. So many let downs with this game. The console launch won't be as big or good as they are hoping for. They are really more focused on LOTR and just appeasing PC players and adding console. They are 2 years too late for reviving this game with crossplay, controller support, etc. I've moved on to other games like many others have. They don't give 2 hoots about us legacy founding players. It's all about profit margins coming from new players, but it won't last, all new players become old players who get tired of the same BS. The "new car smell" will wear off quickly and reveal its truly a salvaged title.

[@remieres]

I hadn't played New world for 4 months (until last week). Because my Videocard had to be rolled back to the previous GPU from an older computer. Until I could afford a better VideoCard. Now that I have a recent and great budget GPU that can handle most games out there. I find that New World (vanilla) is LAGGY as Hell, no matter how low the settings. WTF!!!

[@MrLonwolfmq]

I suspect they are gonna shut down the studio and just sell it as a RPG. In today’s times it has become too expensive for them to run based off player base. This is all due to them ruining their reputation in a failed MMO. Great video!

[@senorsleepy2359]

The beta was sick I know a bunch of people giving another try. I loved this game at launch spent a good few hundred hours can’t beat that and I’m having more fun this time. Everything is a little bit better.

[@Moonwynd5]

You are not wrong. I have 6042 hours played in NW since launch but I haven't played in the last two months because nearly everyone I know and played with, stopped playing. AGS has consistently mismanaged communication and information. They claim that the vocal dissatisfaction is just part of a very vocal minority and that the majority of players are getting what they want from the New World DEVs in regards to fixes/features. However, the attrition numbers say otherwise. This game is beautifully rendered and has a lot of great content for a few hundred hours. After that, there is little to do except what I did: farm expeditions on muscle memory, do endless OPRs on the one and only map they have had since day 1, login for war after war after war, and ignore the horrible way the devs have tried to balance weapons/abilities while introducing new bugs with each patch and still having old bugs that have been around since 2021. Such a shame...

[@arklinmike]

They're suffering the same sort of issues other companies face when they're contracted out by a larger firm. There was an update a good while back that had the devs visibly frustrated at the way things were going - having their own work held back or revised. Embracer is a good group and the game has a good framework. Sure it is not necessarily great for PVP leaderboard players, who have really short game loyalty on any platform. Any. But the overall dynamic is a good one. However they still have to follow whatever AGS is telling them. What really gets me is the number of "content" streamers who've jumped on the bandwagon and are hammering away at it, because doing THAT is popular now. You're not savvy. Don't like it? Switch games. Go away.

[@yubeluchiha]

Wait hold on I was thinking it was a 8vs8 4vs4 2vs2 mmoARPG out the gate with dlc expansion passes and exotic mounts and weapons and hours upon hours of content 😅

[@aimnone]

sad thing is, i absolutely love the gameplay and lore of New world. if the devs would just get their act together, the game could have the potential to be the biggest mmo ever

[@Komplichated]

I hope more ps5 players such as myself visit this. I am an old school mmorpg player (ffxi) for years.. I have been waiting for a new mmorpg to really pull me in. This doesn't look like it will be the one. Tbh it looks like a quick cash grab off console players before it's inevitable death. I will still be praying ashes of creation pulls through for me when it's ready!!!!

[@ezequieltellez9082]

bro, no mater what you called it, its not a MMO because it is not MASSIVE multiplayer online, it is actually a Action RPG. They never get fix the big fighting system, ive got 3k+ hours in game, they never fix the problems. And when the servers start to collide (because of no ppl playing the game) they had the excellent idea of launching a PTW DLC, losing the rest of the ppl. They are just milking the game. The same will happend with ashes o creation, because its the same metodology. Also NA ppl need to stop saying "oh, i get 200 hours of content, so its ok to pay a PTW DLC, they need money" please stop simping big firms.

[@SomeGuyFromUtah]

I don't have any real problems with this announcement. I still think there's some massive problems with certain decisions for this game, but not these announcements. IMO the goal here is capture a new MMO crowd with New World... teens and young 20's first MMO, now on console... I think there's a negative connotation with MMO for some players because MMO = massive time sink. IMO they are trying to capture a mini-FFXIV ARR moment with this re-release. I think very few players have really played through the revamped story and I think it's better than most people realize... and to be fair, the game does play like a 3rd person ARPG. My actual problem with the game has to do with a progression item, Chromatic Seals, being locked behind gold. Many important gear upgrades require this item, but you can only buy one a day and they cost 5000g each, plus faction tokens (but the faction tokens can be aquired pretty easily IMO). Last time I was playing my gold supply was slowly diminishing because even though I played a ton I wouldn't passively make enough gold to cover the cost of these seals. It would take an hour or two of my time dedicated just for gold generation to afford the seals, and that's just not how I wanted to spend my time in game. Most people I knew who wanted to play competitively (territory control etc.) would just RMT. Maybe making gold has been made easier, but that's not really my point... these seals were an important part of upgrading gear, and there's already a daily throttle built into them. Doubling down and making it also into a gold sink is really bad design. Gold sinks and other progression bottlenecks should not be tied to each other for something that's needed pretty often. I don't have a problem with the gold cost or the time limit of another item, Azoth Inductors, I think they are called because an Azoth inductor literally allowed you to make one perfect (3 perk) piece of gear every week... So a 1 week cooldown and a 25k cost does make sense, but I never even got to consider buying these because I never had enough to buy both the Chromatic Seals and the Azoth Inductors. Anyway.. my actual hope for New World, and the only reason I might play it again, is that my son lives in Germany and we play video games together about once a week...he's on Xbox and I'm on PC. If I can get him interested in a game like this it would be a lot more fun than playing Rocket League for 6 hours (for me at least).... However, I only give him like a 30% chance that he'll actually like the game enough to want to play it much.

[@Accuracy158]

Is it an MMO if there's only 150 hours on content? Or is it a sort of once and done action RPG? I put 260ish hours in Black Desert and Lost Ark basically as baby's first step in the water... Just enough to get an idea of how they work and then stopped playing them for various reason. I put 1300ish hours into ESO but now there isn't really enough to keep me interested and I'm not really that interested in mastering the combat. Everyone says they really liked New World but they only last around a month and then put it down.

[@doogeerugged89]

i watched some streamers play this and i was liking it. So i didnt watch much and tried it for myself. I put 131.2 hours in it. I havent played in about 11 months. I stopped because I needed to do dungeons for quests. and I could NEVER do them because only about 200-2k ppl in the server..........No one is playing the game and you cant do some content unless u pack up and go to a new server.... idk When i started they only had like 5 servers with High player count..Now they barely have anything going on now...

[@itsnagamers]

If they would of added more PVP maps or content maybe fixing the lag or balance the classes thats why I left after 1000 hours

[@shira2151]

I've been playing ff14 10 years at this point. Ff14 is an action MMO with co-op. Majority of the game is on rails and solo content play. Only time you'll play with anyone is dungeons, raids and trials Fr fr. Of course treasure maps and etc but that's not even close to important content. Main Scenario is just 30 hours of fetch quest every expansion and it's all solo and mind numbingly boring

[@evolgenius1150]

So... I don't own angry earth. And they're forcing me to buy it to play this update. wow.

[@roahnosh]

Console players are busy playing either First Descendant or Zenless Zone Zero. The latter already made $50 million in mobile alone not including PS and PC. New World devs and Amazon don't know how to maintain a game and to keep them successful.

[@Nisbe1]

I following news about this game for months, long waited pach has finally come out and what we got? they launched console version which costs $70 If I look at the comments of players, they are not positive this game isn't worth the money, im right? my final decision is : i will not buy/start this game it is sad, it is new game, 2 years old, looks pretty nice, It looks like a devs is not normal with their brains xD Don't expect an good MMORPG from a man 55+ ,maybe tetris,but it is all what he can make to gamers

[@turinhorse]

im an MMO addict.. usually try them all. wow am i happy i dodged the New World bullet. maybe cuz Amazon didnt know if it were firing bullets or marshmallows?

[@Syine]

They don't want to say "MMO" on console for marketing reasons, that's all. It was a stupid move to make but it's not complicated.

[@Redbeardflynn]

Abandoning the terminology you've used for years is a bad look no matter how you slice it. Especially when your current pc audience is asking for clarification and the response is "we don't classify our game in a genre" pissing off one audience you've courted for years in search of a new one. Not great.

[@wesweeblez2190]

i LOVED new world, put in 200+hrs on beta and 750 hrs in the first 6 months... the game just failed..it was the absolute best leveling experience of any game EVER...the endgame died tho

[@Jayseammolegend]

New World was already a pretty much dead game, and changing it into an ARPG might actually work better for the sustainability of the game. MMO's just aint very hot rn with the majority of active gamers today.. I'm excited to try the new format when it comes out.

[@milosm6140]

Been playing this game off and on since day one. Is it worth the money? Eh, I don't know, story is forgettable, combat was good, but is getting worse... So get it on some sale if you really want to check it out, but do expect a lot of bugs even those for main story and don't expect them to be fixed (I have quests that I cannot finish even 10 months after reporting it). Just don't hope that this is a "forever game", or devs and management will remind you that it is not.

[@doubleclick4132]

quick question for anyone still playing (i havent played since launch) how many dungeons does the game have now? how many raids does it have now? does it have transmog now?

[@billyscenic5610]

I stopped play New World when I realized that crafting becomes worthless once you hit level cap. It became this boring grind of dungeons and PVP. And the PVP is horrible bursty crap.

[@dustingray4663]

I really enjoy the game I played on launch and just came back to the game I have put in roughly 120 hrs now in last few weeks amd enjoying it agin

[@19Nivea73]

That was a political speech right there if i ever saw one, they don't want to name a specific genre 'cause they probably have plans for the future that the MMOrpg players that currently playing most likely wont like ..Milking money as long as they can, from as many as they can - I say its a sinking ship, It's not a game made for gamers, it's a game made for shareholders ..But what do i know..

[@Macrel91]

I feel like if this game going to get more traction is they need actual classes/skills they are very limited to what weapons/skills to use. I enjoyed it for the first month or 2 maybe and i just got bored of it. I just feel like MMO's now a days need variety to keep people entertained, the only MMO that did skills based on weapon choice good, was Guild Wars. Ive tried other games like that and it just didn't keep my attention long.

[@jlee9360]

Im surprised people still play this game. This shits had clunky combat since the beginning. Shitty systems bad dungeons. Why do you guys still play?

[@Forevergames-vn6gd]

Stop none of you know what games are being made. The people making them dont know. Not a single studio has a single mind or idea at all. You people have no grasp how reject the community actually is. Can a mechanic make a car no they cant. Do 3d graphic engineers make video games NO they DO NOT. A creator has cision then that vision is plotted into scripts art the whole design oh wait thats movies that do it correctly. The way the games are made now with the way you think is right produces over 90% failures ever year studio after studio. It's art and if there is no artists man women or child at the center you have what we called crissis in the day. The prettiest hunk of turd ever made. People like Red here want to make happy nice nice and they also seek mainstream outlets of information about those types of titles. Hey go build two thirds of that car and then we will see if we want to fund you building a car. I mean this industry and the streamers all of them. These companies do these things because you perpetuate it. IE they do it because they can and you are going to continue to pay and do what they want. They wanted to store millions more in profit and push the responsibility of advertisement ext off on you the streamer they didnt have to pay.... and you called it ground braking and innovative and now have ZERO games journalism. I neabn how does a title like enshrouded be a unknown I knew about it for over a year. The advertisment rout was poored over by lawyers and its legal. I wish games where about gamers again like what made my daughter and I dream to be one..

[@AtlasInsightsChannel]

still excited about new fresh start servers and the somewhat new level experience :) so will rerstart and not continue my maced charakter

[@cadenkim305]

I hate this game. I've spent most of my time grinding in 'World Tour,' which involves just following a bunch of people and picking up items. It feels like a waste of time

[@Qsmtt]

this game had huge potential all ruined by these incompetent "devs". only if they had a whole different dev team.... maybe it would went a total different direction, in a positive way. I had great times in this game... we are sick of playing same mmorpgs from the last decades... new world gave us hope but it didnt last long...

[@xBloodXGusherx]

At this point, I won't come back to this game until they go back to Alpha or Beta.

[@Guessitsme1992]

I'm so glad I have a life and I don't no life any game I play. Every time I play this game I have a blast have fun and it's so chill. If only people knew how to actually game so whatever game they play still grabs their attention. I understand the things they changed. Still fun tho. Yell are some sad ppl going I to depth like if yall can do better but yet just sti there making videos and playing the game Instead of doing something about it lol make your own game so we can do the same things to you guys lol

[@RetroGameBasement]

I happened to get into this recently because of the Steam sale. I actually am really enjoying it. I hope the devs keep it going and console players become cross platform. I still see players in the game,and like you said, it's actually fun and hope more people get into it.

[@gothicshark]

While true we FFXIV fans would hate that, we do in fact call it a RPG-MMO. Mostly to remind people to slow down and enjoy the story.

[@CBK-71]

lol this hot dog mess of a game has sealed their own fate . It is over console was a last hail mary atempt to save a dying game and mark my words it will not save them . this from a player who has wasted over 3,000 hours in ths game looking for light at the end of a very dark tunnel. badeep baddep Thats all folks =P lol

[@GrimJRS]

They deserve it First of all none of them play MMOs least of all this one. I gave them feedback in the preview and in the beta that if listened to would have given them millions of players, but they ignored all of it.

[@TheMarkomadman]

i have hundreds of hours on new world, then they changed the minimum spec to play it. now it lags out when i get into a city or a fight. unplayable for me know.

[@Reaper78665]

i left this game after getting one toon to lvl 60 i was here when it launched and not only did it suck then the player base was more toxic then than over in cod or wow or fortnite or over watch its never been good so while people are crying about the devs they should have been here at launch when it started costing real money to do stuff or when it wasn't good at all past a month. and people wouldn't stfu about pvp so the ones of us who don't do that garbage split big time when they kept doing more and more bs for it. the game sucks its never been good at all and if you don't think so you haven't been in it long enough. sorry so long gg on the video.

[@lgbfjb1183]

I say hold onto optimism, a game like fallout 76 was a complete dumpster fire and 6 years later it’s stronger then ever, so it can happen, even tho completely different companies, it is possible

[@j.d.4697]

Did you really just say they increased the server size "a little bit" to 2000 players?! 240 to 2000 is an increase of "a little bit" to you?

[@DJMegabit]

Its an MMORPG with action combat. Also no sub fee so its good still. We all just want more content, and them to stop working so much on old content.

[@JeannieLove]

Oh, it's not Free to Play. I'm not going to spend money on a game I'm not sure I'll like. I don't know how many console players will go for it not being F2P.

[@FluxxAvatar]

Multiplayer online rpg seems very much the same as multiplayer action rpg to me. Its semantics

[@Maniak-e8b]

i played the game on release was kinda fun (pve since i dont pvp) minute they changed how healing works to cater to the pvp crowd that did it for me never came back and never will shame was fun ( the pve part at least)

[@vereor_nox]

Ah, yes the infamous chat sausage. Those were the good old days. Put about 750 hours into New World. It has a really good crafting and gathering system. That what kept me in the game, such a shame it’s being miss managed.

[@bensimon8234]

Seems like they just advertised different to PC players to consoles. MMO is not a popular category on console but is on PC

[@Bob21463]

Please stop focusing on this MMO/ARPG crap. The game plays the same as it always did. Put pressure on devs by requesting content, roadmap, and accountability.

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

Words are important asshole, if you lie to your players about the product, you deserve to be called out on that lie

[@Kanakaoluna]

lol bringing to Xbox and not allowing cross progression was a super bad decision. I would have gotten it if they allowed it..

[@StateOfMood11]

they just hade to make couple of big servers, and add endgame content, problem solved i would be playing

[@andrewhancock9713]

It's a Dead mmo that should be deleted/uninstalled not rebooted Devs failed epically not worth wasting your time on

[@billy3532]

Bunch of cry babies, how is the game supposed to survive with a low population? Best thing they could do was bring it to console.

[@Redbeardflynn]

Content for the game. Expansion saw a bump then they stopped adding content so they could work on a console switch.

[@Rugrat]

Ive gotta say I love the console release I have alot of mates that dont do PC 😁

[@RoRo-xs8fb]

I just uninstalled the game after 6700 hours i had enough trying to find another game with same combat system

[@pakratnv]

Amazon really needs to get out of gaming.

[@douglasduda9826]

Its partly because, many new MMO players play solo...and most kids don't care about making friends online or having online friends...so why play an mmo?

[@Redbeardflynn]

I think people playing games today are even more social than when I was young and playing. You see it with some of the most popular games all being co-op. I just think the way its done by MMOs seeking different kinds of metrics have resulted in anti-social games.

[@MichaelKerr71]

Most of these corporations are so out of touch with their consumer base. And their answer to their customers is just to go further and further down the rabbit hole.

[@Trexid_]

Great breakdown RBF! Feel the same way, had hopes that NW would be great. I still have a few friends that check in on it, but it seems like we have years before they figure out what to do with it.

[@Redbeardflynn]

It's one of those games I wanted to see succeed after they didn't give up on it after the population fell but this just looks so...bad. Like Bless Unleashed 2.0

[@vladimirv3255]

I'm waiting for them free to play, so pay for a game in which 10k is online, I'm not going to buy it

[@ogdanco5638]

Just came back to new world its fun better then when it first Released peolpe complain anything this is why they dont listen us bro complaining because it labeled rpg in consol its the same game

[@Redbeardflynn]

I think you missed the point of the video. This is about a PR disaster, not as much the quality of the game. To recap: Amazon promised PC players for months a content drop, they pushed that content drop. They then rebranded as an Action RPG and changed the genre name they used in marketing, this caused so much confusion people legitimate thought New World was being closed. In that announcement it was also shown that the content they were promised was mostly a lot of recycling of things that already existed, and then that PC players would be asked to pay extra if they hadn't purchased the expansion.

[@roymachluf2]

pvp is boring as hll all you do is pew pew pew no brain no tactics no nothing (gw2 wvw sadly is way beter)

[@eliteone6122]

The game is going to die cause , you don't bite the hand that feeds..... and they did haha

[@6qb879]

beyond fun when i played when the game was new, i really hope they can haul this game back or at least get someone to do so

[@Zlotykur]

I prefer Polish kielbasa.

[@RonniAndersson]

Yep they have no focking clue what they doing i said this from the start. It is a shit show. lol

[@esmolol4091]

I don't get all the hate tbh. There is really a lot one can do in this game. I don't care about the genre name at all. Most people do play solo or with a small squad of friends anyway. The mmo era died long time ago. Heck, even in wow people are solo players mainly and wow has the biggest player count. Call it a barbie survival game, and rpg, and mmo... who really cares. Releasing it on console is no problem for a pc player. Ps: I a super pessimistic person, but if I recall everything I've done in new world, I had a blast randomly roaming around, collecting stuff, crafting, doing music in cities with randoms, ambushing people in the wild. The world is phantastic and NOT hollow or soulless, you can do a lot of things.

[@Redbeardflynn]

The anger comes from the game reinventing itself marketing wise for a 2nd time. First it was a Survival pvp game, then it was an MMO, now its an Action RPG. Its a marketing issue more than anything else and PC players, the few that remain, feeling cast aside after being told "wait for an announcement" for months. Its bad PR.