The New York Jets Future Scares Me And Here’s Why

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[@FootballAnalysis1]

How far do you think the Jets go this year? 🤔 *Also, during the creation of this video it was announced Todd Downing will be calling plays moving forward instead of Nathaniel Hackett. I don’t think it will make that much of a difference, but I hope I am wrong. I can’t imagine the play calling is worse than what Nathaniel has been through 5 weeks though.

[@connorrivers995]

They're doomed!!!!!!!

[@nautgamingnautgaming9949]

I think the jets fired saleh too soon Why not get davante n be patient with the coaching staff If it doesn't work out FIRE EVERYONE and start over in 2025 from scratch Now was NOT the time at 2 n 3 for coaches to be fired

[@vonBlashyrkh]

They'll go as far as the nearest flaming dumpster to climb into.

[@DavidDykes-dm9lc]

Dude how old are you, 14? You are very knowledgeable and informative, you just look so damn young!! Incredible!! Keep up the great work!! 👍👍

[@laxmannate07]

“Aaron, did you know, or have any involvement in Bob getting fired?” Aaron “I’ve been immunized”

[@chrishoj5277]

Underrated comment

[@IsaacHozz]

@@chrishoj5277 It's only been up for 14 minutes. 11 likes. I think it's on pace to be properly rated.

[@markb3786]

@@IsaacHozz 72 likes. Still underrated.

[@petercofrancesco9812]

taking a "jab" at Rodgers

[@Amodernelder]

😂😂😂😂

[@AJPehowski]

Rodgers turned so much into Favre it’s crazy! Us packer fans thought he’d be different but man he’s following Favre’s footsteps

[@PiyachonYuenyongHYDE]

I would say he is even worse than Farve. at the least Farve never had this much influence with the owner.

[@tonypony22000]

@@PiyachonYuenyongHYDEat least Rodger’s didn’t allegedly scam millions

[@Xong217]

@@tonypony22000yet, bros antivax, anti common sense, he does ayahuasca

[@IsaacHozz]

@@tonypony22000 if he's truly following Farve... wait for a dick pick to come out and you'll know the scamming is just 5-10 years out.

[@charlottecorday8494]

What's with that little magnifying glass icon next to Favre's name?

[@timyxgc3714]

Woody got embarrassed in front of his UK buddies and just sent it…. What an owner

[@chrishoj5277]

HC Aaron Rodgers and OC / BFF Nate were unavailable for comments or consequences

[@charlottecorday8494]

This is the same well run organisations who didn't even attempt to find a QB after Rogers went down in Week 1 last year. They had all these great offensive tools and were like "nah, Wilson's got this".

[@craigpridemore7566]

Yep, but somehow that's apparently Saleh's fault since this decision 'wasn't based solely on this year but several', per Woody.

[@jimberry5318]

​@@craigpridemore7566 gotta be his fault because you can never blame Rodgers for anything.

[@GizmoMaltese]

@@craigpridemore7566 This whole decision was based on several years is so much bs. Saleh got fired because for the first time this season he wore the Lebanon flag patch and Woody is a right-wing Israel supporter. People say he wore it last year but that's like wearing a Japanese flag the year before Pear Harbor. It's going to get a totally different reaction if you wear it after Pearl Harbor.

[@idawg7332]

We tried to tell you on your analysis of the jets before the season. It doesn’t matter how good they look on paper. They’re still the jets they will find a way to screw it up

[@JTaylor-pr6rf]

Saleh wasn’t forced out of the building by security that was already reported to be false what happened was when he left the building the Jets head of security walked him to his car which is policy for any NFL team (see Connor Hughes or Rich Cimini’s reports they actually cover the team)

[@charlottecorday8494]

That's disappointing. In my head cannon Saleh went Incredible Hulk and was throwing desks around and smashing through walls.

[@JTaylor-pr6rf]

@@charlottecorday8494 would’ve been hilarious tbh lmaoooo

[@Venom-x7t]

That's the policy and official story, his D-line escorted security back to their office then helped the guy who facilitated their big contracts

[@elvismontan8450]

so he was escorted.. hmmm

[@resyrum5301]

I wish we lived in that timeline​@@charlottecorday8494

[@bayemfootman2746]

Robert was done a favor being fired. Jets gonna Jet.

[@Chorbus]

Of course Aaron has his cheerleading squad from the Pat Macafee show on ESPN spinning his narrative like we don’t really see what’s happening. Salah wasn’t the one getting sacked or throwing uncatchable balls to the WR’s or Interceptions to the defense.

[@npa2005]

Honestly I was baffled at all the hype the Jets were getting before the season. Believing a team with a 40 year old quarterback coming of a torn Achilles would be a legit contender is simply unrealistic.

[@45bands-not-engh]

The 40 year old was Aaron Rodgers there justified hype they still have a good team and can become contenders they lost in a rainy game then 2 two powerhouses good have turned it around if they kept saleh

[@SteelerFanInRI]

​​@@45bands-not-enghno, any 40-year-old QB coming off a major injury that cost him an entire season does NOT justify the hype, regardless of who it is, because it makes no sense to just assume someone in that scenario will play at a high level just because of who he was years ago; that's what the person you're responding to is saying.

[@SteelerFanInRI]

I was saying this when they first signed him last year, honestly; they were using this guy like a wad of gum to try to hold a roster together that isn't that good outside of a couple of nice pieces.

[@nBUMBA]

People have gaslit themselves into thinking Rodgers was close to Brady’s level. That’s why the hype

[@josh903x]

@@nBUMBA the fact people used to think Rodgers who has almost 40,000 less passing yards used to be better.... LMAO

[@Freddie7191]

To be fair, it was very unprofessional of Saleh to put on Aaron Rodgers' jersey and throw 3 interceptions in that game.

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

Agreed. Maybe if he threw better, he wouldn’t have got himself fired

[@chrishoj5277]

HC Aaron Rodgers and OC/BFF Nate were unavailable for comment/consequences

[@FrayedQube]

Thought I accidentally clicked on a Pat McAfee video here

[@lancesilvis4085]

talk about a jumpscare, thought I was gonna lose iq points tbh

[@robcanisto8635]

for real, I was legit pissed I gave him McaDouche a click lmaooo

[@robcanisto8635]

​@@lancesilvis4085those few seconds were enough to do me the same amount of harm as playing a full NFL game in the trenches smh

[@youngf.l.y.1467]

Lmao firing Saleh but keeping Hackett is Fuckin diabolical oh well cmon home Saleee baby

[@soldierofchrist4545]

Saleh was NOT the problem. This was a bad decision on the Jets. They never should've given Rodgers ANY form of control, it's the coaches job to command the team.

[@JTaylor-pr6rf]

No Saleh was a big part of the problem but he wasn’t the only problem he hasn’t been good in his 3.5 years as a HC the Jets are the most penalized team since he took over in 2021, his clock management has literally cost them several games, team is never prepared when they have 10+ days to prepare for an opponent

[@Howesitgoing1]

I don’t think he was THE problem but he was A problem

[@TheSunKing]

his best season in 4 years as HC was 7-10 how was he not the problem? The jets are bottom 20 in every major defensive and offensive stat how is that not on the HC? Jets are also the most penalized team how is that not on the HC? Tired of fans of random ass teams like Jacksonville tryna tell me Salah was a good coach the guy sucked.

[@africasupreme3]

I agree with everything you said. People are on here talking about his record when all he had was poor QB play. When Rodgers and ownership start beefing with each other due to no results, people will finally get it

[@jonlucente4709]

You’ve never watched a jets game in your life and are saying dumbass stuff like this like you’re an expert lol . He was very bad for years. What made you form this opinion? You just made it up out of thin air. Nobody who’s been watching the jets think he was anything but bad . Weird comment

[@drossing13]

Jeff Ulbrich demoted Hackett and changed our playcaller to our passing scheme coach Todd Downing. Idk how good he is but this is worth noting

[@Slaughterproof]

He's not. He's responsible for Carr's massive decline in 2017.

[@connorrivers995]

He's also the moron responsible for the Titans losing their last six games during their 2022 collapse.

[@simeonjacksondavis4156]

Todd Downing's offenses over the years. He will now call plays for the #Jets now. 2017, Raiders offensive coordinator - 18th yards per game (324.1) - 23rd PPG (18.8) - Derek Carr: 3,496 passing yards, 22 TD, 13 INT, 62.7 completion % - Marshawn Lynch 891 rushing yards, 7 TD 2021, Titans offensive coordinator - 20th DVOA - 17th yards per game (324.1) (5th in rushing 141.4) - 15th PPG (24.6) - Ryan Tannehill: 3,734 yards, 21 TD, 14 INT, 67.2 completion % - Derrick Henry: 937 rushing yards, 10 TD - AJ Brown: 63 catches, 869 yards, 5 TD 2022, Titans offensive coordinator - 21st DVOA - 30th yards per game (296.8) - 28th points per game (17.5) - Ryan Tannehill: 2,536 yards, 13 TD, 6 INT, 65.2 completion % (12 games) - Derrick Henry: 1,538 yards, 13 TD

[@brycehoward4139]

You basically got Hackett but he’s bad at consistency

[@simeonjacksondavis4156]

Downing, in his second season with the Jets as passing game coordinator, served as offensive coordinator for the Tennessee Titans in 2021-22. During that time, the Titans ranked No. 4 in red zone efficiency (64.1%) while QB Ryan Tannehill's 7.32 yards per attempt were No. 8 in the league. In his first year as OC, the Titans finished No. 5 in rushing (141.4 yds/g) despite missing Derrick Henry for nine games. That 2021 offense ranked No. 8 on third down (43.6%) and No. 5 in red zone (63.9%).

[@SpittUp]

Saleh reminds me a lot of Spags. Amazing defensive guy, revolutionary assistant coach, but just doesn’t seem to have it to be a HC

[@ChristianMeeder]

Do we really think Adams will fix the Jets issues? Like Rodgers hasn’t looked great since 2021 and now he’s pushing 41. Adams is good but is also 32 and obviously lacks the speed and athleticism he once had. The Jets issues go far beyond WR and they can’t be fixed with one in season trade

[@jimberry5318]

They blew too much cap on rodgers.....can't make a good team

[@thecoolrich]

The problem with jets is the offense and they have good receivers however the chemistry isn’t there!

[@pcharl01]

I gotta say Cleveland is in a worse situation than the Jets.

[@craigpridemore7566]

REALLY small consolation...😒

[@shimsham9113]

much worse, worst team/organization of all time… and i’m a lifelong browns fan.

[@GTBreezy]

How does the offense look WORSE with Rodgers vs Wilson ?

[@tyleraguilar2474]

If the Giants win Sunday night against Cincy can you give us some love

[@J0hnRatcliffe]

Getting Adams doesn't help, he can't freakin block and Rodgers being immobile doesn't help Adams

[@moalston4203]

He not that immobile

[@dyne313]

Why not fire Nathaniel Hackett too? I don't know. Maybe one Kaaron Rodgers.

[@bradlyfan]

He’s not calling plays anymore

[@dyne313]

@@bradlyfan Since when?

[@bradlyfan]

@@dyne313 look up press conference from new coach. I think it’s like Jeff ulbrick now

[@lancesilvis4085]

@@bradlyfanit’s todd downing, the worst playcaller in nfl history

[@cellamuert]

​@@lancesilvis4085out of the frying pan

[@Ejohns1004]

40 seconds into the video and I can't for the life of me figure out whether or not the New York Jets fired coach Robert Saleh. I wish someone on this video would just tell me straight up. ;)

[@robertarmstrong3024]

2:40 Does the Jet's past scare you? That is what their future will be.

[@Yak1312]

Jets lose and act like it was a loss to the Browns and not the undefeated #1 ranked Vikings. The Vikings could tank, but right now they have been great. It was a rough game for both teams and the firing was a knee jerk reaction to a bad start. Rodgers coming off that injury at his age and missing a season isn’t going to magically save your franchise.

[@maybeplease88878]

This can only end well 😂

[@craigpridemore7566]

I got killed by Jets fans on a couple sites for saying I didn't see much improvement in the offensive line from last year, that AR was the solution to all those problems...Ummm maybe not...

[@zach2248]

Also, Connor Hughes (IMO the best jets reporter) reported from mutiple team sources that Saleh was not escorted out of the building

[@TheBHNetwork]

On a story like this that would obviously make the Jets org look terrible I’d actually trust reporters closest to the organization the least

[@petercofrancesco9812]

No, he reported it's standard procedure to escort anyone out after they've been fired. But if they had tact they probably should of just let him leave. It's true it was made out to be something it wasn't. I feel in general it was a disrespectful way to handle it. They should have let him go in the off season. Saleh was the same coach he was for all the other seasons.

[@bwiths]

What’s the point of getting Adams’ if this team isn’t running the damn ball?!?(Rex Ryan voice)

[@REDSHlFT]

‘A 40 yo going on 41’. Are there any 40 year olds that are NOT going on 41?

[@forwardgrappling]

There's the 40 and holding crowd

[@donaldjgumpofficial5754]

He means Rodgers will be 41 soon(December 2nd).

[@jameswinslow8540]

some die before that

[@marcusmcgraw3519]

I’m 32, going on 18 cuz I still feel like I got it like that still

[@garrethboland]

@@marcusmcgraw3519 hahah I'm 35 but still feel 20 or something

[@jeff8366]

Saleh was all about defense, and that was all that worked. Their offense is horrific, and even if it gets better and the defense stays strong, this team isn't going anywhere. The AFC has too many good teams, even if some of them are struggling at the moment.

[@cljerjr31]

been a fan for 30 years, this is par for the course for this organization. starts with the owner

[@bwiths]

Woody really is the worse owner in the NFL. How you not gonna let that man say goodbye to the team😮

[@J0hnRatcliffe]

I said at the start of the year the Jets offense was gonna be a disappointment because Rodgers was cooked

[@italycommon]

Remember when you asked what people based their scepticism of the Jets on? 😂

[@lilnick801]

It's funny to me the "Aaron got Robert fired" theory. So Aaron would rather keep Nathaniel's bad play calling and have an interim defensive head coach? Makes sense 🤔

[@readyjoe6427]

When said OC is his friend yes he would

[@lilnick801]

@@readyjoe6427 so the offense will stay shitty and the talent the Jets do have is going to waste because Aaron is close friends with the OC. That's crazy crazy work if that was the case

[@lancesilvis4085]

Todd Downing taking over playcalling is a DEATH KNELL for the team, genuinely the worst play caller I have ever in my life seen. (Titan’s fan)

[@peterkostenko7824]

Why are football analysts so rarely talking about the skillset of the Oline? An offense should logically stand or fall almost completely depending on the Oline. Run game is 70% oline, and passing aswell, for example you mentioned the dover pass concept, maybe they are just unable to execute the play bc rodgers has less than 3 seconds? Im wondering why you or other analysts speak so less of the importance of the oline, is this bc they dont fall under the „highlight“ play category?

[@robcanisto8635]

Because the mouth breathing loud minority of fans online only look at highlights and box scores for their stupid fugging fanTasY foOtbaLll teams and can't understand the complexities of o line stuff lol but if you into that you'd like the O line committee channel/pod give those boys a look

[@zach2248]

I love being a Jets fan

[@harveyhorwitz1346]

You must be a glutton for punishment.

[@TheYamahog12]

Quit while you can! I’m a fan for 55 years. Got hooked when Namath won the SB. Literally decades of football fan misery!

[@harveyhorwitz1346]

@@TheYamahog12 same here. Bought the hype for too long. Suffered as a Jets fan watching the Giants winning Super Bowls. Jumped ship after the Chiefs won their first Super Bowl with Mahomes. Now it is a pleasure to watch football again. My friends prefer Indian bikes.

[@swaosaus]

if this was truly about saving a “win-now” season, why do you START with the HC is such a shocking way. They’re doomed, not just this season, but for the rest of their existence.

[@simsfann2129]

Love DHop and it seems like he loves Nashville, but I would gladly take the Jets 2025 3rd for him if the timing lines up

[@randy2152]

People were saying 2 weeks ago they lost because he’s not a good enough HC…this isn’t a bad move.

[@MathisNFL]

Good video bro!

[@jonatanburgos6695]

If I'm the Raiders, I am extorting the Jets for everything I can get out of them for Devante. They'll pay any price to keep Rodgers happy and keep their superbowl chances alive

[@StraightCashHomie23]

Unfortunately Ben Johnson will be going to Philly and that makes me glad that he will be out of the division, but also makes me sick that he will go somewhere with a solid offense already at his disposal. Here’s hoping Jacksonville tries to spend insane $ to pick him up when Peterson inevitably gets booted

[@simsfann2129]

Thank you for the Tennessee defense respect

[@JamesSavik]

I thought Saleh had the Jets moving in the right direction.

[@islatubular]

Devante Adams leaving the trash tier raiders to go play on the trash tier jets is an all time side grade lol

[@kendall4245]

This franchise identity will always be the buttfumble

[@Liv4epicness11]

Part of me wants to feel bad for the Jets, but they keep doing these things to themselves so it’s their own fault. The dysfunction is rampant in this organization.

[@TonydaGM]

If the Jets were serious about winning they would start Fashanu, Mitchell, Tippman, AVT and Carter. Draft Allar a guard and a RT. Trade all these 1 year contracts and try to build o-line continuity for next year.

[@larsborger7334]

I hardly doubt that the Jets will reach the Playoffs. I rather think that either the Dolphins or the Bengals will be the 7th Team after KC, Ravens, Bills, The Strouds, Stealers and Broncos

[@littlesmallworld123]

It baffled me why they chose to do what they did at the 1 vs Denver. I get using Breece cause he's your guy, but not running the ball 4 straight times? Or even swapping out for Braelon Allen on 3rd down? And not just because I had Allen in fantasy, lol. The guy's like 2 inches taller and 20lbs heavier than Hall.

[@bobbybland4979]

I remember when Rogers left for the Jets, there were some Packer fans who said they are jets fans now and that the Packers were a bad organization who are going to be bad for a very long time......stay over there w the Jets...dont come back

[@josephbalinski]

Everyone knows Rodgers had Saleh fired. I hate Rodgers, he and the Jets will get what they deserve

[@TheSunKing]

No he didn't you're pushing a narrative thats false for no reason. Woody made this decision on his own no one in the jets knew this was going to happen. Woody is also a terrible owner so idk why people not getting he just did some random shit

[@craigpridemore7566]

I'm really hoping so.

[@DeckofLies]

“I hate rodgers” Please give me one reason you hate him other than “bc he’s a diva” Please explain to me how he is a diva if so

[@Cccam-hh2qk]

Dawg if you don’t think Rodgers is a diva you have zero brain cells get off the internet

[@SteelerFanInRI]

@@DeckofLies He's a conspiracy theorist COVID denier who put his whole team at risk of catching it when he lied about being "immunized" and then caught it? Maybe undermining public health is enough reason for adults not to like this man-child; did you just forget that happened or are you just disingenuously not bringing it up because you know it's a reason people can easily point to as a reason they don't like him?

[@wraynephew6838]

@6:00 is indicative of the problems of this team. The offensive line is getting flat out beat, whether run blocking or in pass protection. @6:00 Alijah Vera Tucker gets embarrassed by the 49ers defensive tackle. Plays cannot develop if Offensive line is failing at doing what they are supposed to do. That area must be fixed or this going to be another losing season

[@AllofPokemonTCG]

I think it is wrong to assume the Jets team even wanted to say goodbye to Saleh lol

[@RM-56]

The Jets offense is shaky, head coach just fired. If there's any team a disaster like this can beat, it's the Bills! They are known to play worse in games that are supposed to be easier

[@jaalsburg]

GM should have been first. He has Riddick still not on the field and they can get the division lead with the next game.

[@J0hnRatcliffe]

I told you at the start of the year the Jets were in for a rebuild come mid-season. Please listen to me next time

[@afterthefox]

this guys not a Jet fan...we've been scared of our future for 50 yrs...

[@ErvinandMFantasyFootball]

Been waiting on this.

[@IsaacHozz]

Todd Downing lost play calling anyway... Now it's really dumb that they didn't fire Hackett instead. I'm a Bears fan so I know incompetence but this is next level stupid.

[@superbones5000]

As a Pats fan I’m glad they exist the way they do so no matter how our season goes they’re still the bottom of the barrel in the afc East

[@cljerjr31]

its the Jets bro, they will lose, the fanbase will be sad. This is the life of a Jets Fan. its an abusive relationship.

[@yourboyj5564]

Joe Douglass needs to go to

[@Mooljim]

I disagree, I do think that Olu will be up there with the likes of Trent Williams (eventually). However, I do agree it won't happen overnight.

[@JCOH-TV]

Unreal, Rodgers has gotten so ridiculous

[@zachnapier2463]

Can you give me an honest thought of the Houston Texans? I’m a Texans fan and I am obviously so ecstatic about there 4-1 start. They have been winning ugly games but wins no other. I want to know what you think on there season outlook going forward. I think if they can clean up on offensive penalties they will start winning games by a larger margin..

[@TanoookiMario377]

Laremy Tunsil

[@George_M_]

Jets are still the Jets, as long as the idiot ownership is here. Nothing will ever change.

[@ProudhonKropotkin]

No one should be a Jets fan. The owners and executives do not deserve it. All jets “fans” should go to home games just to stir up some trouble.

[@WHOOOOOOOOCARES]

If the jets get Adam’s. The higher the pick the more money the raiders will eat of the contract. The lower the pick equals not eating any of his salary.

[@vamsided]

yes.. be fearful of the jets so the dolphins can be good 👹

[@discgolfwes]

But did the Jets fire Robert Saleh?

[@martavioustisby4942]

Yes

[@bradlyfan]

Hackett isn’t calling plays anymore

[@bernjohnson6943]

Maybe Zach Wilson wasn't really the problem after all.

[@buttzlol]

jets can always wait 2 more years andget Jordan Love lol

[@Caseydog3]

First it’s not a given that JD’s job is on the line

[@samright4661]

Jets made the right decision! Obviously the Coach was the problem! People can Blame Aaron but it had to be done!

[@WvlfeTV]

I don't think Adams fixes this issue, the Jets season is cooked

[@SmahChinSki]

I don't feel bad for Saleh. He gets to leave a terrible organization and go someplace better.

[@wesharris5465]

5:35 bc they fired Saleh BC he was going to fire Hackett

[@DeckofLies]

They lost to the defending NFC champs, and two top 5 defenses in the league by one score. If Greg the leg hit his last second FG they’d have won that too. The Vikings are undefeated against very good teams. Why is everyone acting as if their season is over? People SALIVATE over Rodgers drama man. He’s never said a single thing that upsets me. Why do y’all care about this dude so much?

[@GTBreezy]

Can we stop saying the “jets defense is underrated” that word is losing its meaning, The defense isn’t underrated at all we’ve been saying since sauce was drafted that the defense is a championship defense and that the team just needs a QB. Stop saying it’s underrated

[@beandip5222]

Imagine being afraid of a franchise you don't own, have any contribution to nor do they know you exist lmao.

[@robcanisto8635]

And then imagine feeling that making a comment on that content made you seem clever or smart or cool!!

[@michaelcornwall]

Nathaniel Hackett is never it, at OC. weird teams keep trying it. maybe just hire him to be Rodgers friend or something 😂

[@johnjeffrey741]

It was the patch

[@GTBreezy]

Rodgers likes Hackett he won’t get fired lmao

[@connorizzo6652]

Commanders video

[@bobbybland4979]

Jets just arent a good organization. Imagine going from the Packers to the jets...thats gotta suk

[@konnorrockkonnoisseur4970]

Jets have always been a terribly run organization. They got lucky with Joe Namath all those decades ago and they’ve done nothing since for a reason. The quality of ownership trickles down to the front office and into the coaching staffs brought in.

[@jonsnuhsnuh]

Any Jets fan who has watched this team over the last few years knows the offense just isn't skilled enough. The line can't do anything and Aaron is washed

[@blazingmonolith4323]

The Jets didnt see this clause in ARs contract did they? Dude is such a weasel.

[@CTQLF]

After continous changes of coaches and you still suck, ypu need to start questioning Sr. Management.

[@Namelesswonder501]

Shouldn’t put all your eggs in the basket of a 40 yr old conspiracy theorist.

[@WHOOOOOOOOCARES]

Woody Johnson needs to go. Unfortunately that won’t happen because he’s the owner lol

[@flyguy7825]

Your future doesn’t scare me listen, Aaron Rodgers can still play football. He could still make those throws anybody would sense can see that who knows football the problem is is that they’re gonna get that man killed if they can’t protect him They’re going to have to change some things offensively or he’s going to take a lot more hits and sacks I think Davante Adams will help but they need all right. Guard a left guard because people are rushing them up the edges and he’s getting annihilated outside of the office lying. This is one of the most talented rosters. The Jets have ever had defensively there a top 10 to 5 that’s going to keep them offensively they need to get their act together.

[@connorrivers995]

Your doomed!!!! (Remember John Gruden resigned, he wasn't fired. He and Rick Piccasia doesn't count.)