The Next World War | Episode 5 | Strike on the UK

[@sillyone52062]

Tom Clancy would be proud of this work.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Well that just made my day! Thanks.

[@jesuschrist2284]

Tom Clancy has some grip on reality

[@jessphuqette1716]

Clancy had really good Intel sources 😊

[@Ereshkigal616]

Cold Waters, DCS, Arma, all in one experience? Just found this thanks to the algorithm. Very neat presentation.

[@Valokaari]

4:30 I think the F35s of the Lapland Air Command, the Rovaniemi Air Defence Battalion and the Gripens from the Norrbotten Wing would have something to say about those.

[@flatcirclehistory]

All good points and thanks for sharing. Its one of those things where I cannot tell every story but have to pick and choose for that moment. That said, I would love, and may yet get the opportunity, to tell a few stories that involve Sweden, Finland and Norway.

[@Valokaari]

@@flatcirclehistory no worries!! When you do alternate history (hopefully) then there will always be strong opinions ;) But don´t let these keep you down and keep on going with this!!

[@tmike_tc]

Yes! I’m find myself torn between loving the story and animation and appreciating all of the effort involved to create each one of these - and nitpicking technical details that do not jibe with reality. Need to keep reminding myself it is an alternate history/future. It’s not supposed to be ‘accurate’ to be entertaining. I’m devouring these like a springtime bear!

[@TheNewOriginals450]

@@tmike_tc Do not "jive" with reality. You don't speak Jive? I suggest you watch *Airplane! - Jive scene with translation* to get hip to the essentials!

[@ernestoglesby5342]

F35s are rubbish. Expensive paperweights, with similar flight characteristics.

[@bernhardhaebich1372]

Thanks!

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thank you right back!

[@jonb1801]

Thanks

[@flatcirclehistory]

And a massive thank you to you!

[@maxdepasquale2351]

My two cents: these days, Sweden and Finland are part of NATO. And they have taken drills with NATO forces for many years already. They should become involved, for this reconstruction to be 100% realistic.

[@gyozop]

Sweden is not.

[@ProkopGoly]

@@gyozop Not today, but in story takes place in 2032 ;-). Besides, the fact that Sweden is not formally in NATO yet does not mean that it does not behave like a NATO member. At a time when this story is taking place, the joint Nordic air force will probably have about 150 F-35s and 100 Gripens. If we compare this with the production of aircraft in Russia (6 Su-57s per year), NATO should have no problem with establishing air dominance in the war in the Baltic countries. Still, a fascinating story and I can't wait for the next episodes. :-)

[@gyozop]

@@ProkopGoly Do you know what happens when a nuclear power faces defeat? Do you know the Samson directive or the Dead Hand directive? You seem so optimistic like the soldiers marching with flowers into First World War facing machine guns and mortars the first time in history. People just don't learn.

[@rotaryenginepete]

@@gyozop Dead Hand wasn't a directive it was a fail-safe retaliatory strike system.

[@gyozop]

@@rotaryenginepete Dead hand still exists, just like the others. Real threats unlike climate change hoax.

[@tonycavanagh1929]

where is the swedish and Finnish airforce. You really think with total NATO control over the Scandic area of operations, and old Soviet tatcttic would have worked

[@jacobmoss6830]

Basically the sub's where already in place. And the Blackjacks took a very very long diversion to reach their launch points, then turned and kicked in full reheat to run.

[@tonycavanagh1929]

@@jacobmoss6830 Yep, apart from that is all bollox. That entire area is monitored. Even fueling up the planes. Getting the ordance. These are all things I used to watch out for in the 90s, and those who do my job today have so much better tecg=h The bloke admitted he had to put holes in his argument, so he could give the Russians, A bit more if a chance before they lose.

[@jonb1801]

John, these are amazing..just one comment, RAF Lossiemouth and the Boeing P-8 Poseidon fleet based there and the Typhoon Quick reaction force also based there..I work on the base and every week the QRF Eurofighter Typhoons launch to prevent Russian planes entering UK airspace, keep up the great work and awaiting Episode 8.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thanks for the kind words and info. Great to hear from people in the know. My intent with the script was for the blackjacks to release the missiles far north beyond UK coverage. From the sounds of it, I needed that to be much further north. As this channel grows, I hope to gather more insight and info like this before the script is complete! Thanks for info.

[@mtsky-tc6uw]

it will be all missiles and huge rockets which russia,china have hundreds of thousands of--anything that floats,flys,rolls is nothing more than a target in a real war--->Martin Armstrong,the greatest advisor ever in world history said on his public blog yesterday WW 3 next month--turning point is May 7th--Martin never says stuff like this on his public blog,never

[@randym7961]

So would the US and NATO ignore Russian bombers flying over NATO territory and they wouldn't send 35s to intercept bombers unless there was nothing else to send . This is war you say between Russia and NATO that has been going on a few days and yet no one pays much attention to what is going on with Russian assets !! Also as we have seen Russia's equipment looks great on paper but not in practice . There would have been NATO planes swarming in from all over to at the very least be there just in case . Sorry but not seeing it

[@RobFieldFlorida]

The idea that Russia could go from the losses and incompetence of the full-scale Ukraine invasion to hyper-competent and logistically sufficient for lightning war in nine years seems a bit fanciful.

[@johnnydiamondsmusic1673]

So annexation of Crimea and holding the east is losing? After NATO throwing everything but the kitchen sink at them. Half a million dead Ukrainians to about 40k Russian losses. What planet are you on.

[@sangweeni304]

Full scale war is mobilizing 8% of your force to deal with a regional threat? They mobilized less troops than our “policing action” in Korea and Vietnam. They also mobilized less than our war against Iraq and Afghanistan lol it’s funny that the US had over 200k troops deployed across the ME (in addition to NATO force of 50-100k) and still is losing ground daily. Begging for regional powers not to oust them.

[@nathanbyd570]

Excellent point

[@StreagleGeostry]

Exactly!

[@muzza8747]

Russians aren't wearing sandals either, improves the Yanks & Brits chances no end.

[@festeradams3972]

Considering current events, it may not take much longer for the events to play out in real time. You won't have to imagine it.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Agree. It's hard to keep up with all the hotspots and incidents flaring up.

[@bulosqoqish1970]

Unfortunately, you may very well be right about that. Let's hope to God that you aren't.

[@festeradams3972]

Its a bit like Han Solo's "Ive got a bad feeling about this"....@@bulosqoqish1970

[@Tubeinnit]

@@flatcirclehistory 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@airvicemarshalsirgeorgemas2083]

The Severn and Humber bridges are at risk of attack

[@stevenwoeste7428]

Dear Sir: The Seawise Giant you mention in the beginning of the video was broken up for scrap at least 3 or 4 years ago, so it would not be around in in the year of this war.

[@patrickjennings7362]

This remains a fun form of story telling, but it also clearly holds Clancy’s deep love of a competent Russian (Soviet) military. It is easy to poke fun now that we have recent history as evidence, but as far back as the late 80’s and on NATO was clearly aware of Russian failures and weakness in terms of logistics and technology. Keep it up…I’ll keep watching with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek!

[@javiergalindoaaa8363]

Pero muuuuchos paises dependen de los combustibles rusos. Necesitan a Rusia para existir 🤨🤨🤨🤨

[@mikkirefur]

lol. those hypersonic missiles dont seem to be weak technology. yes, in terms of logistics, the big problem on the ukraine front now is that russia cannot move forward too fast and outpace the logistics. towns are falling like dominos these past few weeks

[@chronus4421]

Great job, thank you!

[@bulldogwoof6954]

Let's just hope the current war in Ukraine stays in Ukraine and this never happens.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Exactly. This is why I'm calling this a cautionary tale. Thanks for watching it!

[@supersayianjim2]

if nato keeps with the b.s. and gives Zelenski f16's it def wont

[@uroskostic8570]

Romanians, Bulgarians, and Poles sent memorandum to Russians, no attacks on Russian territorywould be launched from their countries, after that massive missile attack on Ukraine ​@@supersayianjim2

[@markusmeldre]

@@supersayianjim2 and the US giving the USSR tens of thousands of vehicles and weapons prolonged and escalated WW2, right? Appeasement is what escalates.

[@MrYaxalot]

For real because somehow the Europeans are incapable of learning a lesson and have woefully inadequate militaries for any type of conflict. It’s incredible how much the euros talk trash to the United States while fully relying on us for protection.

[@ethanyang9430]

Great work! Cannot wait for the next installment!

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thank you!

[@LHLWASRIGHT]

can't wait? Think about that if you are able

[@schwarzrabe]

perhaps reality shortens your wait

[@neilmcdonald3475]

Really enjoying this series. Excellent quality work. Thanks and all the best.

[@flatcirclehistory]

thanks!

[@Tubeinnit]

@@flatcirclehistory 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ricbish]

Great job mixing the two game footages. Very realistic looking and sounding!! Nicely done

[@patrickmichael8655]

What game is it from?

[@bigcheetah987]

I think the sub/naval scenes are done using a game called Cold Waters and the ground/air scenes are done using Arma 3 maybe? but I could be wrong.

[@ghostdog4330]

I must say this is a compelling series of videos. Keep up the good work. :)

[@toby5904]

What a great series the narrators voice is perfect looking forward to the next installment.

[@elessartelcontar9415]

The "narrator" is an AI

[@toby5904]

Yikes!@@elessartelcontar9415

[@BaBaYaga1999-p7u]

@@elessartelcontar9415NO ITS NOT - ITS PATRICK STEWART!

[@YuZeMe]

Happy to see these kind of storytelling and there is a big target audience that loves this. Fixedit is working on Red Storm Rising since a year and has quite some views. I guesst AI can help on graphics and storytelling, very interesting. thanks and keep it coming. I believe this is a new kind of entertainment thats interesting and has potential.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thanks! Fixedit is doing an awesome job. Love his work.

[@MagmanG29]

These are well done and appreciated. I wonder though, considering the difficulty Russia has experienced fighting Ukraine, how realistic these outcomes are. Granted, this is 9 or 10 years in the future, I don't think Russia would be experiencing the successes that these videos show. Anything is possible, though.

[@TrangleC]

Yeah, this really doesn't seem realistic at this point. Especially the way the Russian air force has been performing in Ukraine, any success they would have against NATO in this video series looks highly unrealistic. The thought that there would be open war in the Baltics and NATO would only have 4 F-35 in Scandinavia the Russians can then outsmart is not just unrealistic, but utterly stupid. This series looks like it was made by a Russian, based on Russian propaganda and power fantasies.

[@tmike_tc]

Thankfully the military power balance seems heavily skewed towards Russian competence to improve and prolong the storyline. They are so enjoyable I’m willing to read along and see where the series takes us.

[@jdhart111]

lockheed martin/raytheon/northrup grumman wet dream! think of how much money could be made!

[@brownholecharles]

and they've been doing quite well playing up fears of the Red Menace since Cold War days

[@rjm6661]

@@brownholecharles "weapons manufacturers will make money if we defend ourselves, so let's just surrender." 🤡

[@doubleslit9513]

Great series!

[@allgood6760]

Awesome graphics and this what could happen!.. scary 💣🌎

[@V4Victory_8]

Great series so far...my only issue with this episode is the russian sub missle strikes. Once the first missle tube door popped open, those subs would be fish food in minutes, if not seconds.

[@darrenshiels4963]

what simulator / game are you using for these videos

[@cideltacommand7169]

Alot of game footage lol Like cold waters, Arma 3 Ect

[@summitap1]

Seawise Giant was broken down by scrappers in 2010

[@flatcirclehistory]

Interesting, thanks. Quite honestly, I didn't know that it was an actual (former) ship. I originally had a different name for it but because DCS only had Seawise Giant for the 3d model, I had to change it to match for the video.

[@summitap1]

@@flatcirclehistory it was just an interesting point of history, as it was once the worlds largest ship. Didn't distract from your most excellent work! You rock!

[@bulosqoqish1970]

Excellent, plausible and gripping series. I will definitely be watching future episodes!

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thanks!

[@kwanchan6745]

only thing wrong is that the blackjacks would have been intercepted earlier and nato airfields attacked in the first strike

[@Tubeinnit]

@@flatcirclehistory 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Terranallias18]

So what's Ukraine and Finland doing? I'm assuming by this time the former is well integrated into NATO and the EU. Also are they other pro Russian belligerents like Kazakhstan and Iran?

[@jasonteem9917]

Great fiction! Love it😊

[@Valkaze111]

What game is these videos showing?

[@gomezz8531]

Excellent work.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thank you! At work on Episode 6.

[@claudioproteo3039]

Why the fact that any war between major powers would become a full nuclear exchange in the very beginning is still ignored in videos like this?

[@jameslongstreet9259]

04:30 So the RuAF just penetrated Finnish Nato airspace unopposed? I'm not sure that would be the case...

[@bikenavbm1229]

my fingers are hovering waiting to click to the next , brilliant

[@hoog6260]

fantastic work! looking forward to the next one.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thanks!

[@Tubeinnit]

@@flatcirclehistory 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Indrid__Cold]

Well the one thing that seems most realistic is Russia's decision to keep the war non-nuclear, although you have to wonder what the Russians had planed for the mobile tactical nukes the US destroyed.

[@mikebarnard9108]

Liked and subscribed.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Welcome aboard!

[@adams7043]

When is part 6 coming?

[@flatcirclehistory]

Imminently

[@richardaubrey3486]

ok episode 5 .three yasen class subs,but only two are destroyed in the next episode.is this an error or part of the plot ?

[@ppp-ti1iz]

Music?

[@Peter-ho1qw]

Oh 😮 your serious 😂 thought I was watching a comedy 🤣🤣🤣

[@ebality]

I cannot wait for the next episode! That's really high quality

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thanks! Finished final draft of Ep6 script yesterday. Today working on the scene list.

[@Tubeinnit]

@@flatcirclehistory Thanks Vladdy 🤖 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@iana6713]

One thing is for sure, some of this might be speculative, but Britain's forces are now so run-down that I wonder how good they would be for home defence. Two shiny new aircraft carriers that don't have enough planes and keep breaking down is not a good advert to the world's hostile powers...

[@cideltacommand7169]

I mean, the submarine force and 40% of the army are actually competent in a real war, im guessing not well

[@miketaverner4451]

It wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference even if we had the military force of the USA . If it starts there is no stopping it nor coming back from it

[@danwatts4322]

Insane I’m hooked

[@HuplesCat]

I love the blanket refusal to even speculate this could happen. It’s entirely feasible but people refuse to accept that. Good script

[@gayprepperz6862]

This is great work, the plot is quite realistic. The scary thing is that the USSR / Russia have always considered a nuclear confrontation as "winnable". Their idea of de-escalation is to detonate a tactical or strategic nuclear warhead (most likely on a military formation or front) and THEN, de-escalate from there. As much as the West has always considered Russia an enigma wrapped in a riddle etc..., Russia has consistently misunderstood the West. Even now, Putin is constantly threatening nuclear escalation with the West as he continues to lose in the war he started with Ukraine.

[@iana6713]

That is the fear, isn't it? Things go REALLY badly in Ukraine for Putin's forces, and he sticks two fingers up to the world by doing something like detonating a tactical nuke on, say, a Ukrainian military base. What then? What does the world do when they realise he's actually prepared to go that far? Hoping we never need to find out.

[@robertfoster7807]

Pure bullshit the only country with a doctrine of limited nuclear is the usa and the pentagon this scenario is bullshit

[@Comrade_Tokoloshe]

This is all western centric thinking, the Russians will do things you never imagined were possible.

[@drbrunch]

Lol

[@doughvictor2893]

The Baltic and the North Sea are now NATO homewaters. The Russians would be hard pressed to operate subs or fly unescorted bombers through to attack UK from here. A sub attack would more likely come from the South, Biscay area to mid Atlantic which has very little air cover and is a huge patrol area for naval forces.

[@bryanhoppe1481]

Bingo.

[@robertfoster7807]

a russian ballistic nuclear submarine would stay in russian Artic waters as they can hit any target in the usa eu uk from there they would risk them going into nato or international waters

[@bryanhoppe1481]

@@robertfoster7807 then why are Russian subs patrolling the Pacific and Atlantic coasts?

[@robertfoster7807]

@@bryanhoppe1481 they are not ballistic missle submarines they are attack submarines used for taking out shiping .The russian dont kneed to take ballistic missles submarines out of thier own arctic waters to hit targets in the usa uk eu why risk them.Russian attack submarines would be in pacific or alantic or even indian oceans

[@Watchyourselvez]

F-35 can't catch up to a Tu-160

[@rjm6661]

You just informed us that you're not familiar with the concept of "interception."

[@pschroeter1]

I just can imagine the West watching these attacks a saying over and over, "don't be a nuke, don't be a nuke."

[@kali7148]

Excellent work! I have no complaints this time haha (just jokin

[@flatcirclehistory]

Well you made my Friday!

[@sdwone]

I'm kinda past caring now... And have simply reached a point that, each time I wake up... I realise that I've just lived another day... And Civilization is still here! Our leaders have gone INSANE! Just a matter of time now... Until this world completely breaks apart...

[@regularguyrunning174]

really good!! im addicted.

[@1911olympic]

Sinking such a large tanker with 1 missile and sinking it 'within minutes' is absurd. Tankers are known to be very difficult to sink, because of their many compartments.

[@SnakePliskin762]

Quite the opposite hence why the real one sank

[@shauntbarry]

Looking forward to Episode 6 just hope it isn't played out for real on TV :/

[@extraordinarytv5451]

I like this series but to make it less fairy tale level you should probably add a failing NATO

[@bobbyperu4683]

Apart from the nuke issue, at the moment i imagine that NATO could take Moscow with a phone call.

[@rungfang27]

Most of the countries involved are all going through growth of their military, Poland for example by the time of this would be able to be a huge road block, if not blunt the attack with how they are spending. I do like your series tho keep it up!

[@markorstb]

Another interesting video. I am glad that some ideas of mine that I mentioned on the server were applied.

[@flatcirclehistory]

Always welcome input and suggestions to make the story better. Currently neck-deep in scripting Episode 6!

[@loneranger4113]

Very nice job sub`d Thank you

[@skipgumphrey9579]

Bravo Zulu , great series !!!

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thank you!

[@Bonygasse]

I can't wait for the next episodes!

[@flatcirclehistory]

thanks!

[@FAngus-ly8lk]

The idea that British oil & gas assets in the North Sea would be a primary target of Russian missile forces on the outbreak of a war with NATO is fanciful at best. The UK really isn't that important any more. This is a former superpower that doesn't even have a functioning aircraft carrier force (yes, the UK has 2 carriers - but does not yet have sufficient planes and backup aircraft to equip them). A war with NATO would very quickly take Russia into direct conflict with US carrier groups, masses of carrier-based aircraft, along with submarines and missiles. Given the potential NATO forces arrayed against them, bombing North Sea oil platforms and British ports would be a waste of ordinance.

[@Retrosicotte]

The UK absolutely is a functional carrier nation, and is one of the most potent militaries in the world. Having 2 supercarriers, 30+ F-35s to go on them and a potent escort force makes them the 2nd most powerful carrier nation in the world right now. The closest being France, but who only has one carrier, and while they have 42 jets, they are all of previous generation models, not modernones like F-35.

[@RonaldTrumpOfficial]

Literally, every QRF force and ship in the north sea would have something to say about this..

[@johnnydiamondsmusic1673]

Russian Black Jacks can easy out run F35.

[@StreagleGeostry]

What about the missiles 😂

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

This scenario is like NATO only has a couple fighters. There are already over a 1000 F-35 in service along with 175 or so F-22. Then you have all the European fighters. Russia would be outnumbered 4 or 5 to one and NATO’s equipment is far superior.

[@scottb2235]

best episode yet imo. thought maybe you disappeared after ep #4. glad to see not. scott

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thanks! This one took a while because it involved learning Cold Waters, but well worth it. Adds a cool new dimension to the story.

[@scottb2235]

It was the best but I’m pro naval engagements good or bad for the homies. Haha

[@minecraft-rsx]

Love this!

[@owenirc5139]

You so not understand modern warfare. The UK's oil platforms produce essentially tiny amounts of oil and it is less every day. The correct target for Russian weapons are UK refineries or petrol distribution nodes. The goal, for victory, is to stop food transport. Surrender is not far behind that. Hitting an oil platform leaves all refined products intact and applies no pressure to the populace. You apply pressure by starving the populace. Not killing random people here and there. That just extends the time food will last.

[@periloustimes1751]

Still kind of a fun little ‘What if’ thought experiment

[@lhiannonshee]

Loving this. Well done, sir!

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thank you kindly!

[@PaulAmdahl]

Good Stuff Yup

[@wcraigburns3458]

Incredible . A 10 out of 10 production . Brilliant .

[@nicholasforman1195]

Ineffectual air defence will never win a war…

[@SamFBM]

this is sick ngl arma ftw

[@kudos1729]

Interesting series… sad that the Canadian Commander got ganked so quickly because he couldn’t put away his instagram… question… what about the NATO rapid reaction force?

[@andrygugli1928]

Like your choice of using cold waters for those scenes

[@flatcirclehistory]

Thanks! My only wish is that Cold Waters had more camera control. That aside, its a great platform to use for this project

[@pj_ytmt-123]

What? It'll be all over in one hour.

[@norfangl3480]

Unrealistic, this documentary assumes Russia has a military that can fight countries not on its border

[@wintercat2605]

As if Backfires could get anywhere near the UK. One just got blown out of the sky by a Ukrainian missile. Didn't even juke or pop chaff or flares, or maybe Ivan sold the countermeasure canisters for vodka.

[@Zebooman]

Well... This story is not really up to date. With Finland and Sweden in Nato, an attack on the Baltic would look very different.

[@halo99yo]

hard to believe

[@richtea7868]

Seawise Giant was out of service nearly 15 years ago. If you can’t get that right it really shows a lack of research

[@ЕлисейКузнецов-л5з]

Hey, the author is a dreamer and why didn't you fantasize that the military and political leadership of Russia will not use nuclear weapons and will strike at logistics centers, bases and command posts?

[@jesuschrist2284]

Russia's millitary is a joke what is this nonsense?

[@Jesusisking2785]

The sea wise giant no longer exists it was scrapped

[@jaybee2402]

There's a reason so many of the rafs bases are in Scotland.

[@josephking6515]

Adding just a very small comment for the algorithm.

[@محمدسيفالدين1417]

Not all is realistic russia in a real confrontation will be very deadly for Scandinavia and Europe

[@AdrielMichael-xo2hd]

im so confused, why hitting oil platforms and Ships going to slow Nato's war response especially from the north sea, UK and many nato nations import Oil from African and Asian markets, Russian influence on many African nations would have stopped the sales of oil to Europe ith the destruction f Oil refinery and terminals.

[@moistmike4150]

The scariest part about this video is that it might become a reality before long. Way to go Biden!

[@skipgumphrey9579]

If it does it wouldn’t be due to anything from Biden.

[@procrastination168]

Biden is the reason everything has not descended into chaos. Trump would have bungled all these crises like he bungled Covid response.

[@tmike_tc]

Uh, you mean the same President Biden that helped rally NATO and the EU to support the Ukraine and oppose Russia recently? That guy? Or are you referring to a different Biden? Not following you here...

[@nicholasforman1195]

Russia is on the way out and weakening which is very likely why Putin has gone trotting off to North Korea for help…

[@williamduckworth305]

Pretty scary considering the wirld today...make you make the US predident a 90 year old woke wiener...

[@leekelly9639]

I bet at 90 the President could actually spell the word “President”

[@williamduckworth305]

@leekelly9639 yea i got fat fingers...lol

[@tmike_tc]

and a lazy mind...

[@dale3852]

So true

[@scottallen6133]

Not realistic with the stare of Russias military. Logistics and maintenance issues are a serious problem.

[@baxtermullins1842]

Don’t forget, 3 subs sunk! Most blackjacks destroyed on way in!!

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

Where are western airforces and navies?