The Noble M600 - Did Britain's Forgotten Supercar Deserve to Fail?

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JayEmm on Cars

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@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
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@adrianmadden7329
@adrianmadden7329 Жыл бұрын
Love Cars Intro?
@jamieeedden777
@jamieeedden777 Жыл бұрын
Think this was on top gear and if I'm correct the owner has 2 don't remember color of other but reg.s are m600rhd and m600lhd
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
@@jamieeedden777 discussed in the video
@jamieeedden777
@jamieeedden777 Жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars diddnt watch the hole thing as was out for the b day but have now really cool car I think I'm a Volvo guy but I do like them
@jamieeedden777
@jamieeedden777 Жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars when my car is done if you ever want to have a go your more than welcome as you respect other people's cars it's something a bit different doing it sleeper style and leaving it tatty ish so it looks bone stock but is going to be one fast car people say to fast for my age
@ashfanman
@ashfanman Жыл бұрын
I personally think the design has aged really well. Still looks fantastic - particularly from the rear three-quarters. Strikes a balance between being exotic, beautiful and muscular.
@brandonfromlondonuk3484
@brandonfromlondonuk3484 Жыл бұрын
you sir are 100% correct Beautiful looking and sounding machine
@Harry._.Thompson
@Harry._.Thompson Жыл бұрын
When I first saw it as a child on TG I hated it but as I’ve gotten older, everything about it has grown on me
@AntoniusTyas
@AntoniusTyas Жыл бұрын
I found myself agreeing with your statement. M600 is the best-looking Noble of all. The new M500 was atrocious to look at.
@RobertRedford77
@RobertRedford77 Жыл бұрын
Outdated and square on launch..
@scootergrant8683
@scootergrant8683 Жыл бұрын
Given it's 2023, looking back at the Top Gear video in which it was compared to other sports cars of the time for the sake of why on Earth one would deviate from the normal big names, I must say it's pretty clear now. It looks striking. With a modern context, those cars looks great but not as refined as the M600. It may not have seemed so at the time but these days it has kept up nicely compared to the Aston, Mercedes, Lamborghini etc of the time.
@suide3275
@suide3275 Жыл бұрын
A Noble mechanic, driving a new car from the UK to Italy was a moment in top gear I'll never forget
@25200706
@25200706 Жыл бұрын
The only thing was noble payed top gear to day the clutch failed when in fact in snapped the crank, and they were plagued by issues due to peter Dyson's crap american engines.
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 Жыл бұрын
@@25200706 But Hammond even showed the broken clutch during that episode.
@matti-poika6073
@matti-poika6073 Жыл бұрын
@@25200706 Since when has Yamaha's engines been american or Peter Dyson's?
@sandert8901
@sandert8901 9 ай бұрын
@@25200706 m600 has volvo/yamaha engine, not american
@drummerdoingstuff5020
@drummerdoingstuff5020 8 ай бұрын
That was you!? Good man!
@MrManBuzz
@MrManBuzz Жыл бұрын
My god the sound of that thing is just incredible. I started laughing at some of the drive by shots it sounded that good.
@the88lundberg
@the88lundberg Жыл бұрын
Good ol' B8444S
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 Жыл бұрын
The love child of Volvo and Yamaha. Volvo designs with a bit of spice from Yamaha tuning. Surreal thing!
@lorddoobsworth144
@lorddoobsworth144 Жыл бұрын
same here :')
@joewitton7143
@joewitton7143 Жыл бұрын
I'm determined to own and straight pipe a volvo s80 with this engine minus the turbos as they sound so good.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 Жыл бұрын
Really? I think it sounds awful & I normally love Yamaha head based engines. I think the turbos are maybe making it sound super choppy, like a rotary or something.
@leesinden76
@leesinden76 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as ever Jay. I am the Lee the previous owner. The M600 is a cracking old school school analogue brute of a car and I miss parting with it. I'm glad James is using it properly and getting it out there so it can be enjoyed by all 👍
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Lee, hopefully I did the old girl justice :)
@leesinden76
@leesinden76 Жыл бұрын
You did indeed bud. It's one car I do regret selling every time I see James out in it. I traded for a manual 991.2 GT3 which is so much more usable but is slightly sterile by comparison. Every drive in the M600 was an event. Even the interactions with the factory and the MD himself, Mr Peter Boutwood; were very positive. The ownership experience was nothing short of epic!
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev Жыл бұрын
And thanks for the thread on Pistonheads, most entertaining.
@abovenbeyondlimits81
@abovenbeyondlimits81 Жыл бұрын
Great review . Pretty cool to see the owner in here . Was the car maybe not a terror bc it couldn’t fully open up .. I must say this car with Richard I believe at imolla was epic .. he pushed this thang so hard . I loved the lambo and the Mc Lauren but this as the underdog I secretly enjoyed bc it as just wild . Lol 2volvo engines twin turbo and no abs .. 😳I was like really ? Lol I remember Noble as a calendar car so this should be interesting and boy was it ! Pretty cool to know that this was the same car! Btw how much did u sell it for bc it would be interesting to know they are so rare . I could see the value tripling at 600k bc of the exclusivity
@GazderVarun
@GazderVarun Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing ! What an absolute beautiful visceral car ever ! Will go down as a legend !
@ReeceT20
@ReeceT20 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this car has been on my mind lately, I think it may be the ultimate modern drivers supercar, like a big lotus
@ldwp6395
@ldwp6395 Жыл бұрын
Modern Esprit v8
@neightarch
@neightarch Жыл бұрын
The Lotus that Lotus never built 😢
@ldwp6395
@ldwp6395 Жыл бұрын
@@neightarch I definitely see this as closer to the spiritual Esprit successer than the 12C
@markwalton8644
@markwalton8644 Жыл бұрын
I've always said that Noble has taken Lotus's, Esprit mantle!! No Gizmos or Gadgets just big Power and a Chassis which can deal with the Power. I guess Lotus would have to sort that steering though!
@TheSimonhammond
@TheSimonhammond Жыл бұрын
That Volvo/Yamaha V8 sound is just glorious!
@Busy_Child
@Busy_Child Жыл бұрын
This was my favorite supercar of its era, just seemed so raw and purpose built
@SamuelJBall.
@SamuelJBall. Жыл бұрын
I remember being at the launch of these when it was the baby blue car with the fibreglass body. Peter Boutwood was MD at the time and was an absolute gent in taking the time to explain the car to everyone individually. I'd still buy one of these over any Ferrari or Lamborghini. Fun fact, the mirrors are from a Vauxhall Corsa VXR
@rv9990
@rv9990 Жыл бұрын
Hhaahha that is where i recognized the mirrors from!
@g-floyd-d8572
@g-floyd-d8572 11 ай бұрын
Bravo ! This is one of the few Car Channels I can watch nowadays without being saddened, concerned or irritated. Keep up the good work James!
@wristofkings
@wristofkings Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite supercars, easily. That Volvo/Yamaha turbo V8 is a complete animal, I love to hear a proper tune with natural cracks and bangs rather than the annoying farts that you get from sportier VAG products and newer AMGs.
@paulelverstone8677
@paulelverstone8677 Жыл бұрын
There is something very special about a powerful, analogue super/sportscar. I'm an enormous fan of cottage industry sportscar makers. Noble, TVR, Marcos, Lotus, Morgan - everyone of them distinctive in their own special way. No cookie-cutters here...
@junkshopbeats9188
@junkshopbeats9188 3 ай бұрын
But we don't need any more. No one needs so many 'parts box' vanity low-run supercar makers.
@kostasjezuz4846
@kostasjezuz4846 Жыл бұрын
Manual gearbox, lightweight, crazy looks, analogue feel... count me in! I was lusting over it when it was released as well, there's few things I'd take over this! How about an ASCARI next?
@kostasjezuz4846
@kostasjezuz4846 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, forgot to mention, there was a Chinese copy of a Smart car that was also called the Noble, hehehe
@emdotrod
@emdotrod Жыл бұрын
That V8 sound is just pure harmony
@joshriddick9291
@joshriddick9291 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this on the front of an Autocar magazine with the caption "quicker than a Mclaren F1" back in 2009. I've been in love with it ever since, and have never wanted to drive a car more than this one. If there's an eccentric millionaire out there willing to buy a flabby, 30-odd year old an M600, I'll have one in British racing green with red brake callipers please
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X Жыл бұрын
To me, this is the supercar with the best three-quarter rear view.
@marvinsamuels1237
@marvinsamuels1237 Жыл бұрын
I was gutted for Lee Noble when he fell out with his company. The M600 was such a step up from his previous, impressive creations. It still looks supercar fresh today! Sounds amazing too!! I was lucky enough to sit in an M12 that my dad had in his workshop many years ago.
@TheBadBunny87
@TheBadBunny87 Жыл бұрын
I never would of imagined that the m600 has the same footprint as the Aston Martin Vantage. Ive always imagined this car to be huge.
@bicyclist2
@bicyclist2 Жыл бұрын
I've loved the look and sound of this car from the first time I saw it on Top Gear. I'm glad that Jay did a serious review. This blue is nice, but the original light blue was absolutely gorgeous. I just wish I had the money to buy one. Jeremy Clarkson aptly explained why the M600 was better. He said it was much faster. I believe him. Sadly the only way I'm going to even see one in person, is if I get the chance to go to Europe again. Thank you.
@aneudysc
@aneudysc Жыл бұрын
I normally reserve my comments, but my got this was a pleaspnt surprise from you, I am having a bad day at work because of a stubborn employee, but you lightened up my night shift. I just love this car. And yes, I would buy this car in a heart beat, this is a modern day F-40. It will kill you if you don't pay attention, and I love that.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Glad to lighten your evening :)
@geordiecraig101
@geordiecraig101 Жыл бұрын
Having worked for a local machine shop making parts for the M600, they were great parts to make and nicely engineered and designed, but they were a pain in the arse to deal with!
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Let me make an educated guess... difficult to get them to pay their bills?
@hexgraphica
@hexgraphica Жыл бұрын
This is from peak recent car culture era. I remember buying in London the "speed week" Top Gear magazine with the GT86 on the cover, and the M600 was hot in that moment. Jaguar was releasing incredible cars, Porsche wasn't nauseating yet, Ferrari was still under Montezemolo leadership, the F12 was a new thing, the Hypercar trinity was about to come, Rush was an incredible movie, Group B rallying got popular, historic racing wasn't still the posh affair it is now, and home racetrack Monza was still hosting a marvelous vintage racing event with Can-Am cars. Then the social networks sublimated everything to the point we're indifferent to everything. You are fed with so many smacking cars that when you see them in the flesh you're already accustomed to them.
@hexgraphica
@hexgraphica Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the sobbing rant, I always get carried away
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 Жыл бұрын
I still love Porsche and they still know how to make finer drivers cars and not like BMW who sold itself entirely to sales and the accounting department. Sure, the move to EPAS from Hydraulic was not everyone, but they still are connected enough. Not only that, but I do know that the 991 RSR cup cars ran electro-hydraulic steering systems, which was still relieving to hear about as they can still offer excellent feedback (being that they’re still hydraulic), though that steering rack should’ve translated into their road cars, but they’re still wonderful enough.
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 Жыл бұрын
Montezemolo era Ferrari ruled too BTW
@Rudenbehr
@Rudenbehr Жыл бұрын
Nothing really changed about the cars I think, the culture just shifted, from what i gather.
@hexgraphica
@hexgraphica Жыл бұрын
@@Rudenbehr the cars too, or better what we consumers demand from cars.
@davidphillips7255
@davidphillips7255 Жыл бұрын
It makes me chuckle every time I hear a tester regard a vehicle without nanny's as flawed and somehow lacking. You just have to be sensible. Would I try to have fun in the rain? No that would be idiotic. If I had to drive in the rain, I would treat the car like I would if I had to drive in snow. Smooth, gentle and absolute minimum RPM's to keep the power down. There is a time and a place for fun. It isn't analog cars that are dangerous; it's stupid drivers. I like that Jayemm clearly has a feel for what the car is doing and doesn't condemn the old time driving experience. To me it would be part of the fun.
@EddieRicks-i8v
@EddieRicks-i8v Жыл бұрын
Sounds great and the older cars are better then the new ones 😊
@futurecat
@futurecat Жыл бұрын
James, speaking of old Top Gear, i appreciate in your work a similar blend of humor, genuinely profound sensibility, and a flair for expressing very helpful details.
@Android-vk8yh
@Android-vk8yh Жыл бұрын
A breath of fresh popping air. A British hairy chest analogue sports car with the typical get the spanners out at the end of the journey Bravo.👏
@ryanherbert69
@ryanherbert69 Жыл бұрын
@ 19:45 it sounds like it breaks the sound barrier, love it!!
@jamescaricola6439
@jamescaricola6439 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying it for prob close to a decade that if I could have any car it would be the f40 and the M600 a close second. That’s transmission that car is just amazing
@Pr0vost
@Pr0vost Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you got one of these, bit of a dream car
@jacobaptodd
@jacobaptodd Жыл бұрын
Forget your lambos and Ferraris I'd have one of these in a heartbeat! My absolute dreamcar. Analogue, light and fucking mental. I just wish I'd win the lottery and I'd be straight round to have one ❤
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I guess you’re fully entitled to your opinion, but you are an argument against universal suffrage, my friend!
@Madira15122
@Madira15122 Жыл бұрын
The Noble M600 is one of my dream cars... It's a legendary car... Thank you very for this review❤
@Lukeywoodsey
@Lukeywoodsey Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this on top gear, was amazed on the looks, the noise and how it handled. The previous noble had a Mondeo engine but was still amazing
@94lungelo
@94lungelo Жыл бұрын
I remember Richard Hammond went nuts for this car on an episode of TG.
@peteredwards7872
@peteredwards7872 Жыл бұрын
An absolute beast of a car. I never thought I’d hear Kerridges mentioned in a video. Having bought several cars from them I can confirm they and their knowledge and expertise are sorely missed.
@matthewcochran3325
@matthewcochran3325 Жыл бұрын
J, Matt from the great state of Mississippi here. Your channel is by far my favorite (we don't put the u in favorite) channel on the youtubes. I have a lot of the same opinions and views that you have and the few times we don't see eye to eye I normally learn something and often change my mind 😂 Keep up the great work, I tell everybody about your page, both my car pals and non car pals (who usually appreciate the change in scenery and a non American personality, not that there is anything wrong with being American...you get what I mean). Cheers.
@shadowsystemproject
@shadowsystemproject Жыл бұрын
Awesome to see a Reveiw of the Noble M600. I hope to see something from Koenigsegg. Marcos, Spyker, AC and the Venturi 400GT
@cafe405
@cafe405 Жыл бұрын
The Italy toad trip where Hammond drove one was great, amazing car all things considered, would love one
@bigal3055
@bigal3055 Жыл бұрын
My memory is a bit hazy and my Top Gear knowledge isn't what it once was, but technically, didn't he drive two of them on that road trip?
@cafe405
@cafe405 Жыл бұрын
​@@bigal3055 no your memory fails you, he just repainted it when he fixed it .
@gkan1042
@gkan1042 Жыл бұрын
@@cafe405 and moved the steering wheel to the other side of the car. All in a night's work!
@cafe405
@cafe405 Жыл бұрын
Well while your fixing it you may as well put the steering wheel on the correct side.
@M1chlos
@M1chlos Жыл бұрын
Car has sensational sound, like probably one of the best I've heard. I don't like high pitched sounds, so this is pretty much perfect.
@HG504X
@HG504X Жыл бұрын
Such an underrated car. As Jeremy said it at the time Vs its competitors it blew them all away where it mattered. On the road.
@colin5577
@colin5577 10 ай бұрын
If I were in that market, I’d 100% consider a Noble. Bespoke, driver focused, manual… not much of that around in the super car space. Almost nothing, in fact.
@bassface8580
@bassface8580 Жыл бұрын
Jay the timing of this episode was perfect for me. I had just rewatched that Top Gear special featuring this car a few days ago on Dave lol. Yesss. I've always loved nobles! Ok. Time to sit and enjoy this with my dinner lol
@paulking54
@paulking54 Жыл бұрын
That engine sounded really sweet.
@davebarron5939
@davebarron5939 Жыл бұрын
What a great opportunity, a lot of fun joining you, love the NOISE!
@yudhabagaskara98
@yudhabagaskara98 Жыл бұрын
Notable appearances in media are in Top Gear and F9
@neiltoby1771
@neiltoby1771 Жыл бұрын
When you opened it up i thought you dubbed in the sound of Steve Mcqueen bullitt mustang what a sound m600 is such a cool car .Nice video as usual Jay 👍
@dickie8184
@dickie8184 Жыл бұрын
Always loved these. If my lottery numbers came in, I'd have one of these over any Ferrari or Lambo.
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын
If there were as many rich lunatics in the world as there are plain lunatics saying this is/was their dream car, Noble would never have gone bust to begin with!
@keirbourne5323
@keirbourne5323 Жыл бұрын
Lol this was good timing. I literally watched this episode of Top Gear two days ago. Cool car!
@tonymiller3182
@tonymiller3182 Жыл бұрын
This overtook me this morning, going south on the A1. I was in my Lexus LC500. It did look rather nice!
@JangosGaragebrokendreams
@JangosGaragebrokendreams Жыл бұрын
Thanks I thought the same about your car
@IliescuBenyamin
@IliescuBenyamin Жыл бұрын
as always i am amazed how good the volvo/yamaha v8 engine sounds, what a rare animal!
@James-oo1yq
@James-oo1yq Жыл бұрын
For a turbocharged engine , it doesn't lose any of the fantastic V8 burble. I know it doesn't have ABS, but I would imagine it stops really good, what with it being so lightweight
@davekennedy6315
@davekennedy6315 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning and incredibly rare car! No other KZbin car reviewer even comes close on delivering so many rare and unusual cars to test. Jay you are THE MAN!
@JPspinFPV
@JPspinFPV Жыл бұрын
Your friend James seems like the real deal of car guys.
@rollotomassi8251
@rollotomassi8251 Жыл бұрын
Have been longing for this review! Love The looks and sound 🤘
@n0w3lly90
@n0w3lly90 Жыл бұрын
That's a properly sorted, throaty, V8 soundtrack 😊
@bruncebanani8854
@bruncebanani8854 Жыл бұрын
I've also seen this first on TopGear and always loved its looks. Out of the three supercars they drove to italy, this would have been "mine". And I think it has aged fairly well.
@iandavidson99
@iandavidson99 Жыл бұрын
I love everything about this car! It's a big YES from me!
@Retrobeemer
@Retrobeemer Жыл бұрын
*The M600 has always been top of my ''when I win the lottery shopping list''. Nothing has changed. James you're a very lucky man.*
@pj9375
@pj9375 Жыл бұрын
Love it. Just watched another channel on the Ford Gt. a totally sterile exercise…. This on the other hand 🥳🥳🥳🥳✅
@adamhazell4474
@adamhazell4474 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Jay! Followed this the other day on an scd drive! Flames, noise, amazing, what a motor!
@JangosGaragebrokendreams
@JangosGaragebrokendreams Жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@Rog5446
@Rog5446 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this just three hours after launch. So I had a squint in Autotrader to see if any Nobles are on sale, and lo and behold, there were four between £42k and £53k. I had a Volvo XC90 with the Yamaha 4.4 V8 and that was a lovely drive. I believe Clarkson had two.
@AnnatarTheMaia
@AnnatarTheMaia Жыл бұрын
The engine sounds wonderful and the car looks nice. It has a V8, plenty of power and a manual transmission. Works for me.
@Vonstroke
@Vonstroke Жыл бұрын
Always been a fan of the M600. Great to see a review of one.
@Jw20000
@Jw20000 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic experience to drive a M600. Always liked these to be honest. I expected you to say the ride would be crashy and horrible. And Thank-you James for lending it out!
@marcdelaunay1
@marcdelaunay1 Жыл бұрын
My fave analogue super car almost..❤
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 Жыл бұрын
My all time favourite supercar... If I could write a cheque for one, I'd have one already. The second I can, I will. Edit: And after hearing this one's provenance, it would definitely be the one to have.
@waynemarlow8157
@waynemarlow8157 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say before I view this video ..and what ever verdict considers this car to be....is brilliant!!!
@rv9990
@rv9990 Жыл бұрын
Commimg from a non-supercar lover: i love these cars! The sound. The looks. The uniqueness.
@bghoody5665
@bghoody5665 Жыл бұрын
The auto generated cc translated the engine noise as music which is exactly correct. That is a lovely noise - lovely, lovely, lovely.
@frenchieblack1
@frenchieblack1 6 ай бұрын
I love the M12 design but the m600 is the total package of power, sound, interior and exterior looks. The M12 just looks like what a racecar should look like in my eyes.
@tenman1818
@tenman1818 Жыл бұрын
Amazing car, great story and as usual a very good presentation 🤩🤩
@johnpoulter
@johnpoulter 4 ай бұрын
Legend. Greater than the sum of everyone else's parts.
@Robdoesguitar
@Robdoesguitar 8 ай бұрын
I've been lucky enough to work on this car and one of the other press cars (mobile detailer back in the day!) and can easily say these are my favorite cars ever. Great memories and just spectacular cars. Just waiting on that lottery win!
@christophecamus3295
@christophecamus3295 Жыл бұрын
Great review and awesome video of a very rare and interesting car❤❤❤
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev Жыл бұрын
I looked seriously at that car when it was for sale at £160,000. On my dream garage list, a modern F40. I am writing this at the start of the video so you may well say this but the engine is really a Yamaha design, the V8 that was used in the XC90. My understanding is that you can still order one.
@testdriveph
@testdriveph Жыл бұрын
Definitely "grew up" watching top gear and leeching through final gear forums, in fact i dream of making one small feature film like it. Great video as always!
@psircos
@psircos Жыл бұрын
Let's just say that sounded and looked incredible.....and that you were concentrating, a lot!!
@shortbuslife3440
@shortbuslife3440 Жыл бұрын
Tell him to contact EBC brakes and they'll make him new brakes if he needs them. It looks like you had fun with this one :)
@jonlee580
@jonlee580 Жыл бұрын
Im an american.. And ive never seen or heard of this car.. Its beautiful.. Looks like a every car super car pit together but all the best bits from those cars.. I didnt know Dyson owned a car company.. 700hp?? .. Good lord, That is alot of power
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
It's not the Dyson who makes vacuum cleaners
@simondale3980
@simondale3980 Жыл бұрын
That power to wieght is impressive and still holds up today as proper performance car even stock. Fond memories of that top gear episode.
@mtnman1984
@mtnman1984 Жыл бұрын
This car is for the connoisseur of driving experience.
@LeggyDogg
@LeggyDogg Жыл бұрын
Gotta say I don't remember if I liked the looks when I was a kid but now I think it's pretty cool
@2013_Shox
@2013_Shox Жыл бұрын
I always wonder if someone has managed to have the Yamaha V8 in its noble form put into the Volvo S80 v8
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma Жыл бұрын
I think that Yamaha V8 was Noble's biggest mistake, as it catapulted the Noble into a whole different market. With the twin turbo V6, Noble was competing against the lower end Porsche's and Ferrari's, but with the V8 it really jumped up to compete against the supercars. As a sportscar company Noble was doing reasonably well, but as a supercar the company simply was too small to be able to attract the proper buyers and I guess you can say that Noble almost literally priced itself out of the market. A bit of a shame though, as Noble V6's looked like quite nice cars and personally I quite liked the idea of Noble staying close to the Lotus philosophy of "less is more"
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma Жыл бұрын
@Richard Harrold It put the M600 in a much higher category of cars, thus upping the price and facing much fiercer competition. And simply put: if you were out to buy a nice sportscar, then a Noble might be a good choice, as it pretty much ticked all boxes for a somewhat reasonable price. But if you were out to buy a supercar, then you'd look at a high-end Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini etc. Noble simply didn't cut it in that sector, as it was "just" a small company building cars. In my opinion Noble had pretty much the same problem a brand like TVR ran into: they built nice sportscars for a somewhat reasonable price, but for a supercar they lacked prestige and many customers must have felt a lack of security that Noble would continue to be around on the long run. So why spend a lot of money on a Noble when for about the same money you could buy a Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche, with the knowledge that service won't be a problem in the future?
@mikeelliott886
@mikeelliott886 Жыл бұрын
Why would buying a 458 instead of a Noble make you an idiot? 😂
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma Жыл бұрын
@Richard Harrold Yeah, but the Ferrari has a built-in value retainment and pedigree, things that brands like Noble and TVR lacked. As to Noble being expensive: that depends on your point of view. I thought the V6 twin turbo gave pretty good value for the money. Sure, they weren't cheap, but compared to the competition they didn't stand out. The V8 bumped the car into the supercar segment and Noble simply couldn't compete against those cars because it lacked the pedigree. Look at how Toyota succeeded with the Lexus brand, whereas Mazda failed with the Xedos brand. The Lexus LS400 was such a high quality car that it was able to stand up against a Mercedes S class or BMW 7 series. The Xedos was seen as just a Mazda with pretentions and therefore it failed. I see Noble in pretty much the same terms: great cars with the V6, because they were fast and nimble and compared to Porsche's and Ferrari's it competed against you got a lot of bang for your buck. The V8 simply fell short of the Porsche and Ferrari supercars, mainly because of its pedigree: it was "just" a Noble. The high-end car market just floats on snobbery.
@tjroelsma
@tjroelsma Жыл бұрын
@Richard Harrold Yes, pedigree: Ferrari existed years before Fiat bought it and always has been very successful in racing. Pretty much the same goes for Porsche: it was an acknowledged race winning manufacturer way before the VW group bought it. Noble simply hasn't got that pedigree. Compare it to Saab: they made great cars that in size and luxury could compete with Mercedes and BMW, but it had "only" a 4-cylinder engine. That and the fact that the "common man" drove Saabs, disqualified it for the rich. That the Noble was able to compete against and even beat competitor's cars didn't matter one bit: it was still "just" a Noble. I think comparing Noble with Toyota/Lexus and Mazda/Xedos does make a lot of sense, because Toyota did it right and Mazda, like Noble, did it wrong. There's nothing against carving out a nice niche for yourself, Lotus have been doing that for decades and in my opinion Noble was even more a niche car manufacturer than Lotus, as Lotus still had its racing-pedigree. So you may not like it, but Noble was always going to lose in the supercar segment, even though it arguably could defeat the competition.
@boyracer3000
@boyracer3000 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree about the old Top Gear episodes, the music used was superb too.
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
Thanks J, always enjoy Noble content! Had someone from the company go over this car when it was new, at their stand at Goodwood, in front of a small crowd of about 5 of us!🙏🙏
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video 📹 I remember the episode, Hammond, made of their only engineer, Geoff, coming over to fix the car..
@Phnergelde
@Phnergelde Жыл бұрын
I love them, Nobles. This especially. I like the shape, the sound, the speed and the quirks. Yes, the chassis too. It's a nasty beast and I approve.
@dwarfshortage244
@dwarfshortage244 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Phenomenal.
@waynemarlow8157
@waynemarlow8157 Жыл бұрын
My god...740bhp. Love it.
@contingency9
@contingency9 Жыл бұрын
It is not nailed together it actually thrashes ferraris lambos and porsches a bit of respect please.
@slowspecv69
@slowspecv69 Жыл бұрын
I think I’ll take jays word over yours bud. Just cuz it’s fast doesn’t mean it wasn’t “nailed” together. It definitely isn’t gonna have the refinement of a Ferrari lambo or Porsche, thinking it does is stupid. Was the Saleen s7 not thrown together just cuz it was faster then most of its rivals at the time? No.
@Frank-li8uj
@Frank-li8uj Жыл бұрын
Have you driven it?
@DamoDrives
@DamoDrives Жыл бұрын
@@Frank-li8ujyes and a passenger in the m600 Speedster back in 2017 in my early KZbin days (still think it’s the only video of the car on road)
@nodo7575
@nodo7575 Жыл бұрын
@@slowspecv69 both Saleen and M600 are so much better than any Porsche or any Ferrari except maybe Carrera GT it ain't even funny.
@slowspecv69
@slowspecv69 Жыл бұрын
@@nodo7575 in terms of straight up track driving? Maybe. But they’re horrible street cars. They’re tight inside, hard to get into, clunky, and a cheap interior. Ask anyone who’s driven an m600 or s7, they’ll tell you they’re an unrefined rocket, the m600 being a little nicer then the s7, but it still applies.
@gstargreen1
@gstargreen1 4 ай бұрын
Wow you are brilliant reviewer. This is one of my favourite cars and I really wanted to know the details you talked about...thanks you
@jackgibb16
@jackgibb16 Жыл бұрын
reminds me of the early early Keonigseggs also M600 RHD was at the NEC back in 2013, i have a couple photos of it. it was still grey then.
@juleswilko
@juleswilko Жыл бұрын
Noble gets some recent air time at long last :-) great to see and hear
@georger2748
@georger2748 Жыл бұрын
Evo simped for these back in the day... comparing to F40. A lot to like, it seems.... M400 lives on, in a manner, as Rossion Q1 in the States.
@JangosGaragebrokendreams
@JangosGaragebrokendreams Жыл бұрын
Love this car so much, it’s my go to driver’s car every time over the other stuff Great video James
@rorzf1butler781
@rorzf1butler781 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Sounds odd but I watch these doing weights in the gym. Very calming and I love the cars.
@joebloggs9719
@joebloggs9719 Жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video jay. I always liked these Nobles. There was a beautiful orange one at cholmondeley years ago that i was in awe of.
@BRAINOUTSIDEROOM
@BRAINOUTSIDEROOM Жыл бұрын
Abs systems are quite cheap, however tuning, development and legislative sign off is very expensive for a ground up system
@farouk1991
@farouk1991 Жыл бұрын
THEEE best sounding car there is .... Ever since I've seen Clarkson drive this thing .... I'm in love The engine is amazing out of this world sound My favorite car reviewer doing my favorite car
@sickjohnson
@sickjohnson Жыл бұрын
Super cool and another awesome review JayEmm!
@mikimoto99
@mikimoto99 Жыл бұрын
That defines a true sports car!👍🏻
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