The Northern Ireland Protocol Fight Explained - TLDR News

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This week the UK published a paper that outlined how they want to change the Northern Ireland Protocol, an element of the Brexit Deal they signed only 18 months ago. So in this video we explain what the UK want to change about Northern Ireland and the border, how they're justifying it and the EU's reaction to this development.
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00:00 The Background
03:36 What the UK Wants to Change
06:00 The UK's Justification
07:12 The EU's Response
08:47 Ending

[@nettcologne9186]

A German government spokesperson tweeted: “Is it too much to expect the UK to stand by what it has negotiated, signed and ratified. The Northern Ireland Protocol was negotiated by the UK government. It was signed by the UK government. It was ratified by the UK Parliament. Its consequences were known."

[@iedco4]

You left out that it was the” EUs” fault !

[@user-vu9ys5wm7d]

@@iedco4 the UK voted to leave the EU.. UK chose all this.

[@iedco4]

@@user-vu9ys5wm7d I was being sarcastic ! 👍

[@xuover]

@@iedco4 so was the UK when signing the deal

[@sincereexistentialist4100]

The pity is that millions of of citizens think precisely like that, that’s why we use “/s” for sarcasm. It clarifies the confusion instantly.

[@MichaelWarman]

My favourite take on this was Ursula Von de Leyen saying "we wrote it in English so they would understand it"

[@euansmith3699]

Thank you for a genuine LOL. 😂😂😂

[@emilia13ful]

That is literally the best comment 😂😂😂

[@briangronberg6507]

That’s fantastic

[@klosowskisiemens1407]

Lmao

[@johnnixon7749]

Fine, but didn't they understand they were dealing with Boris!

[@kevinboushel154]

UK: Negotiates a deal EU: Implements the deal UK: *surprised pikachu*

[@Flipdonyk]

Exactly ! Why would the EU take any risk to compromise the single market (even an "extremely limited risk") for a government who decided to leave it ? Why would the EU take any risk to compromise the single market, just to help a government who would be delighted to see the single market collapse ?

[@SuperPsychoSheep]

Ay I went to school with you! Hope you're good!

[@adarkimpurity]

It's about interpretation you fool; pragmatics. The EU already failed at the semantics. Were does the treaty state the clear construction of a 'sea border' - it doesn't.

[@gerbenvanessen]

@@SuperPsychoSheep I hope he is evil?

[@Flipdonyk]

@@adarkimpurity of course it is not mentioned anything about a sea border. However custom checks between NI and GB are clearly mentioned. And this is what BJ signed ("oven ready deal" remember?) and this is what BJ complains about, now.

[@Nick-kz6dg]

Brexit: The UK creating problems that didn't exist before and then complaining that the EU is being unfair to them.

[@edojaalexander]

How is this not at least in part the EUs fault. They are being inflexible and over zealous with checks. Don't blame Brexit for EU incompetence

[@themightycat7238]

@@edojaalexander EU incompetence??? Your goverment signed a deal. If they don't hold up their end of the bargain then the eu should just secure the border themselves. The eu has no obligation to solve internal uk poltical problems

[@ajaxamsterdam9095]

@@edojaalexander I am sorry, won't work. If no (or less) checks are in place, a company can buy any goods in England, transport them to N.Ireland, repack the goods and sell them to any EU country without paying taxes. EU can't accept that, sorry!

[@edojaalexander]

@@themightycat7238 This isn't an internal matter. The only reason the UK government signed up to the protocol is to protect peace by avoiding a hard border with Ireland. If the EU is unable to understand that and continues to be inflexible by creating a hard border with the UK it's there incompetence. Every one agrees that the EU is being overzealous. Just admit the EU is damaging the peace process

[@lookingforsomething]

@@colonel.halberstern5893 The EU could have just put up a wall at Ireland/NI if they wanted to stir up trouble. The UK entered and "excellent" contract (Boris Johnson) and now wants to just not do their part. This was all foreseeable. The UK either didn't read the contract we spent hundreds of millions on negotiating or the UK is just extremely incompetent. FPTP is a joke. We need electoral reform.

[@ludovicusclericus]

In other words, the shaggy-haired British PM is using the "Shaggy Defense"-- IT WASN'T ME. Got it.

[@Fezzy976]

god damn it take my like and get out!

[@IvanSoregashi]

wasn't it him tho?

[@gloin10]

@@IvanSoregashi It very definitely WAS the Blonde Buffoon, in the Wirral, with a pen and a stupid Latin quote.... With apologies to 'Cluedo'...

[@orionspero560]

@@gloin10 Actually the blond buffoon was the pupat of the European research group , Leave .eu, Unionist/ethnic cleansing a militants in Northern Ireland common and the UKIP faction that pushed for it.

[@jasonfaulkner8644]

Life would be sweeter for the Tories right now if May had lost to Corbyn. The Tories wanted to lose, but their voters proved mindlessly loyal (again). If Corbyn wins, either he hilariously carries on with Brexit, or, he calls Brexit off, meaning the 2016 referendum didn't count! So, it was to be a lose-lose situation for Labour. But no. Conservatives must clean up their own mess.

[@kieranbrady1240]

Vote for brexit they said, northern Ireland will be fine they said, what could go wrong they said....

[@lookingforsomething]

FPTP is a joke. We need electoral reform.

[@andersbodin1551]

It will be fine when Tories put the boots on the ground in NI

[@user-vu9ys5wm7d]

@@andersbodin1551 The Tories would never have support in Northern Ireland. People there are more educated despite all the other issues there.

[@euansmith3699]

Yippee Ki Yay!

[@haroldinho9930]

It’s fine. We get independence.

[@bramvandenheuvel4049]

Boris is either extremely incompetent, or he's lying. Probably both.

[@bishton]

both

[@pogonator1]

"Probably"?

[@g.m.2427]

Also he's an incompetent liar

[@creativedesignation7880]

I don't think it makes a difference. If someone insists on acting like an idiot no matter what, that kind of makes them an idiot, regardless of their potential capabilities.

[@haz2010]

Both

[@Veemo590]

Boris: We made an amazing deal its oven ready will meet the deadline I got brexit done everything is good! also Boris: the EU made a horrible deal that we signed and we hate it nothing to do with us

[@elwinvanhuissteden7729]

I guess that's why it's called "taking credit", not "taking debt". It's only all his doing when it goes right?

[@lonevoice]

Johnson and Frost were so happy with the Withdrawal Agreement that it didn't even warrant detailed Parliamentary scrutiny. They just now need to get off their backsides and implement it properly instead of spouting all of this crap.

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

So Boris' campaign slogan "Get brexit done" actually meant "keep fighting over brexit for years to come". Got it.

[@MrThorfan64]

It will never be done, because we will constantly be arguing over this and blaming everyone but us.

[@ThePigMensToes]

He got Brexit done but, now he has the opportunity to fulfill that promise again and again...and again....and again......

[@flappetyflippers]

lol

[@CesarHILL]

There is no fight. If bobo wants to fight he gonna have to deal with international law and international perspective. Imagine how all the world will trust UK after BOBO scraps his own words only a few months after giving it.

[@MrThorfan64]

@@CesarHILL Well that is long for him.

[@timteichmann6830]

EU: WANTS A FUCKING CONTRACT THEY SIGNED WITH GB LESS THAN 2 YEARS AGO TO BE UPHOLD BY BOTH SIDES Johnson: your so inflexible

[@godlovesyou1995]

The uk was forced to sign it by the eu's inflexibility/ stubborness

[@tommydoez]

EU: Gave multiple extensions Johnson: "GET. BREXIT. DONE" EU: Follows contract Johnson: "You're literally killing my country"

[@timteichmann6830]

@@godlovesyou1995 No it wasn't. They could have made a no deal Brexit after wasting Europe's time for years but they didn't want to so they made a compromise with the EU. And now Boris fucking Johnson trys to get all the ups of the deal without the lows.

[@leighchapman935]

@@godlovesyou1995 You’re talking out of your ass🤦‍♂️. Go away and educate yourself.

[@zephyros256]

@@tommydoez indeed, and just before signing the agreement in question the UK got offered another extension to hammer out more details and such, but rejected it to "Get brexit done"

[@GreatgoatonFire]

BoJo: Shits the bed willingly and knowingly. Also Bojo: Why did the EU poop in my bed?

[@rickrolld1367]

"Those damn froggies have shat in my bed again!" - Boris Johnson

[@karlvnshwp6407]

* why did the EU let me poop my bed?

[@kasperiosilverlaine1287]

"The EU are coming to poop in ALL our beds! Look, they pooped in mine!"

[@elwinvanhuissteden7729]

"I told them it was a bad idea to poop in my bed, but they went ahead and made me do it anyway!"

[@Drachnon]

This is clearly the EU's fault for not letting Bojo shit in the EU's bed.

[@augustine.o6190]

You can't sign a mortgage agreement and later say you don't want to pay the installment. UK government signed just 7 months ago the NI protocol and doesn't want to implement it.

[@lookingforsomething]

@@BritJim Yes, you can compare it to any binding contract in existence. "Oh I don't like the terms of this contract. I expect you to deliver but I'll do whatever I want ignoring everything we agreed upon". No contract ever worked that way. Not a single one.

[@undead9736]

@@lookingforsomething Its countries dude no one has any obligation to do anything at the end of the day

[@themightycat7238]

@@undead9736 agreements are still agreements.

[@stormelemental13]

@@lookingforsomething They do if they want to keep trading with the EU.

[@undead9736]

@@themightycat7238 Not if they become inconvenient

[@RonnieOP]

I really don't understand how the UK didn't see these problems coming It seems so obvious

[@joshuacarre06]

Brexit was fueld by rascism and racists Brexit was a bad idea from the start

[@julianshepherd2038]

Cocaine

[@sabinehahn9774]

Oh, it did - everybody knew NI would be an unresolvable problem, they just didn't talk much about it. The EU certainly more than once brought it to their attention.

[@HappyGingerWolf]

We did see this coming, boris is just doing whatever short term solution he can. The short term problem was brexit going on too long, so he made a short term solution that's now causing problems with unionists. Even if he gets his way on this it's gonna have problems later because he's incredibly short sighted

[@curtiswfranks]

Not only does it seem so now, but it also seemed so then. None of this is unexpected.

[@moredac2881]

UK: stop the trade border! EU: hold on, this entire operation was your idea?

[@wile123456]

"We never wanted to sign the northern Ireland protocol" couldn't you use same the blame 4 dimensional logic to explain why UK should have a second vote about brexit to stay in the EU? "we never wanted to leave the EU, we were mislead and 50% of our population wanted to stay" Fucking moon logic arguments, but what else do we expect from Boris?

[@BrianJ1962]

He could try - but it would take less than a minute for video of him leading the charge for the Brexit 'Leave' campaign to surface.

[@wile123456]

@@BrianJ1962 seems like most people don't care about hypocrisy, otherwise the entire conservative parlament would have been swapped out by now

[@BrianJ1962]

@@wile123456 Well they kinda did that in the last election - vote in a whole new bunch of lying hypocrites. I'm curious how many times the UK electorate will swallow this BS before realising that the only thing the 'Tories can be trusted with, is nothing.

[@wile123456]

@@BrianJ1962 well it isn't even a proper democracy. First past the post murders small parties, and governments always being majority controlled parties means that its always 33% of the population deciding everything for 100% of the country

[@BrianJ1962]

@@wile123456 indeed

[@guidosalescalvano9862]

Why are the UK and the EU fighting again? The simple answer; It makes Boris more popular among his base...

[@lookingforsomething]

It'll cost all UK and some EU citizens. What a stupid way to harm UK citizens for personal benefit. FPTP is a joke. We need electoral reform.

[@jibraeel]

@@lookingforsomething yes the mmp system

[@lookingforsomething]

@@jibraeel MMP is terrible pretty much just FPTP in a slightly less mushy wrapper. Much preferable would be any Condorcet method.

[@MrThorfan64]

Well exactly, a constant crisis to keep nationalism high, so BJ can continue this nonsense he's a Churchill-like figure.

[@godlovesyou1995]

Even more so for the EU. The French love it when macron makes fun of or acts against britain. Those who support the eu already tended to dislike the uk, being left wing with an imperialist stereotype of the uk

[@beab2804]

I don’t think that the EU is actually fighting. They just stated what the facts are. It seems more that the UK is fighting and struggling with itself, to accept what they signed

[@SandroWalach]

Yeah I agree but I might be an idiot and not seeing something. But this whole affair sounds so one sided. Two parties signed something, ie a deal. The end. :P

[@anno-fw7xn]

you right,but i hope the EU ready to start sanktionen up to a complet emborgy of the UK if the Speak up more!

[@arnold118-b1w]

Being honest it is the government's fault for signing it but at the time the protocol was never going to work and all sides should have seen it. It's not been 20 years since the good Friday agreement that stopped the violence there and as I it looks like it's heading that way again. I'd prefer we broke the agreement then for goodfriday to be broken and people to die again.

[@Kafei01]

The EU is not fighting. But TLDR is a british channel and so they are biased, i'm guessing they read a lot of british newspaper and so they really think the EU is still concerned by the internal bulshit of UK. This explain the title "why UK and EU are fighting again", while in reality there is no fight.

[@bubba842]

@@arnold118-b1w 24 years since the Good Friday Agreement.

[@KrisRogos]

UK: We want a unicorn EU: Unicorns don't exist UK: We want a unicorn EU: That is impossible, how about a pony? UK: Look at us, we got a pony! We got a pony! Isn't this great! A vote for me is a vote for pony! EU: *rolls eyes* UK: Hey, this pony isn't a unicorn! Give me a unicorn! EU: This is pony, you agreed to a pony, you were happy about the pony, you are getting a pony. UK: *cries*

[@zerto111]

Yup, sums it pretty much up.

[@damocles8159]

And now they complain that their predecessors wanted a unicorn and parliament made them accept a pony, while they really wanted a dragon.

[@Temo990]

I am asking myself if unicorns would be impossible to breed with modern DNA technology. After all there are animals with horns on their forehead. Certain genes must be responsible for that. If you could implement these genes in a horse you might become a unicorn ;-).

[@dnocturn84]

There is a tiny error, so let me correct this: UK: We want a unicorn EU: Unicorns don't exist UK: We want a unicorn EU: That is impossible, unicorns don't exist UK: How about a pony? EU: Yes, that is possible. Here is your pony. UK: Look at us, we got a pony! We got a pony! Isn't this great! A vote for me is a vote for pony! EU: rolls eyes UK: Hey, this pony isn't a unicorn! Give me a unicorn! EU: This is pony, you agreed to a pony, you were happy about the pony, you are getting a pony. UK: *cries*

[@nodisalsi]

And more ironic: UK already has a Unicorn!! It represents Scotland on the UK coat of arms, chained to the ground with a confounding crown around it's throat. No doubt, they'll blame the EU when the lose this too.

[@themightycat7238]

The uk keeps breaking deals and can't be thrusted. If the uk wants to disvolve the NI protocol the eu needs to secure the Ireland/NI border themselves The eu has no need to solve the uk's internal politcal problems.

[@Pindasaus]

If we put up a border between Ireland en NI we do have a problem though. (The troubles will affect Ireland and therefore the EU)

[@haroldinho9930]

EU should invade Northern Ireland

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

@@haroldinho9930 Why? It's already a defacto part of the EU, as it is.

[@Robbedem]

@@haroldinho9930 it wouldn't be an invasion, it would be protecting it's customs territory. ;)

[@cedrickropp]

I completely agree and if they happen to be found violating human rights in the process of trying to solve the problem and America maybe is paying attention for once and the UK ends up with major Tarifs and Scotland and Wales end up leaving and they just end up with England and NI and then England sees a major population decline do to everyone, besides the awful Nationalist leaving and England ends up just as destroyed as Ireland, the Irish will finally get their due revenge for centuries of oppression and genocide, by an incompetent and insane upperclass that has been holding on to power for far to long. Let’s just hope that only the ones responsible suffer.

[@Critizens]

The majority voted for the Brexit and the "Northern Ireland problem" was discussed to become a big problem back then. At least from one side. The EU said from the very beginning, that the integrity of the single market is a red line. So they must either be border checks or you join the European Economic Area (EEA) - meaning you must enforce EU legislation that you can't influence anymore (that's what Norway is doing). So please don't blame the EU, who just demand that you keep the contract you (aka the Government you voted for) signed literally month ago. Also known as the "oven ready deal".

[@SurmaSampo]

Or the UK refuses to do either and leaves it up to the EU to do its own border checks. In the long run the integrity of the single market is the EU's responsibility to solve.

[@dnocturn84]

@@SurmaSampo This situation is solely because of the Good Friday Agreement between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, that makes a physical border between both of them impossible. This is not the EUs fault, there isn't even a signature of the EU on that treaty. By leaving the EU, the UK has to provide a solution for that problem, not the other way around. The EU didn't create this problem by any means, but the UK did create it by leaving the EU. So in order to leave the EU, the UK had to create a solution, which they did by writing down the Northern Ireland Protocol (after rejecting Theresa Mays "Backstop" solution earlier), which became part of the Withdrawl Agreement and which was signed by both sides. This current issue also isn't a question of survival or anything important like that. NI gets everything they want and if supply from GB can't make it across that barrier in time for some reason, these supplies can easily be sourced from the Republic of Ireland or the EU. It's solely a problem for unionists, because it collides with their ideology and for businesses in GB, that have slightly worse access to NI. Nobody gets hurt by this solution. I believe this is a good compromise after all.

[@John-Smith-999]

You say 'oven ready' but all that means is 'half baked'

[@frankwerres4501]

@@SurmaSampo Guess who‘ll loose out in the trade war started by that? And also please give an estimate of how long it will take Mr Biden to pick up the phone and tell your liar-in-chief PM to stick to the GFA.

[@fatfat1877]

@@frankwerres4501 both the the UK and EU. Also it wouldn't be breaking the GFA

[@finnle5432]

Brexit has been good for: -This channel. The end.

[@xerberme]

Not true, there are a few anti-Brexit Channels on KZbin that have a lot of content now.

[@andrekoniger3020]

You forgot the fish

[@envera9553]

For Johnson too. No other way he would be PM. Maybe that's why he keeps prolonging this circus.

[@theirishempire4952]

@@andrekoniger3020 in b4 Iceland expands it fishing waters

[@ryanm4169]

The british economy is growing faster than any other European nation and is set to be stronger than pre covid levels by the end of this year... show me the downside of brexit

[@Tavernum]

The Protocol is British Law, so if BoJo's government breaks it, a judge will ask them to reinstate it.

[@ryanm4169]

Using article 16 it can be suspended, we built a clause in for incase the EU decided not to amend. This clause wouldn't break the britsh law as it was built into the law itself.

[@enkeltrick4715]

@@ryanm4169 No.. Article 16 does not suspend the protocol... Article 16 just suspend the a part of the protocol that cause the problem. The suspension has to have the goal of fixing the problem, otherwise it's not legal. So BoJos attempt to trigger article 16 is worthless... Because he can't.

[@jonathantatler]

You discuss an agreement BEFORE you sign it, not after.

[@peope1976]

It is not really a fight if there is only one party trying to hit the other side. The same clowns who negotiated and voted for this amazing deal know claim it is the worst thing in the world and somehow the fault EU? Was the greatest deal ever or where you incompetent and impatient negotiating a deal and creating an end-date of your choosing?

[@lookingforsomething]

FPTP is a joke maintaining politicians that only a minority wants (Labour, Conservative). We need electoral reform.

[@godlovesyou1995]

@@lookingforsomething most people want these parties as they have a wide spectrum. Many parties causes instability and power to extremism

[@ant318]

@@godlovesyou1995 do you not think what you have right now is extremism? A government that lies and cheats publicly and is proud of doing so. A government that will break international law in limited and specific ways, that threaten their neighbour with starvation in order to get a good deal…those are just off the top of my head. Sounds very extreme to me. Electoral reform is desperately needed in the UK

[@sabinehahn9774]

@@godlovesyou1995 but let's face it - and this is not only in England/GB - the parties and old power structures don't serve us well anymore, do they?

[@lookingforsomething]

@@godlovesyou1995 Instability like in Norway or in Finland? I'd say these countries with many parties are considerably more stable than the UK with a considerably lower crime level for example.

[@Doso777]

This was the solution the UK government wanted, proposed and signed. The UK should stop throwing a hissy fit and get on with it.

[@Robert-rw5lm]

Or the UK should get some balls and stop caring about the EU

[@ThePereubu1710]

I only have 2 questions for them: 1. If it was so shit, why did they sign it? 2. If it was so shit, why did they sell it to the UK electorate as an "oven-ready" deal? Everything else is just tinsel on the tree.

[@googleaccount4159]

because of a meaningless vapid slogan that won over half of our country. "Get Brexit done". Its so sad that people voted in an absolute arsehole because they liked his slogan.

[@zephyros256]

@@googleaccount4159 well, they didn't win over half the country (or a popular majority), only 43% percent of the voting base.

[@ryanm4169]

The truth is, the government signed the deal due to immense public pressure. Brexit was dragging on and results weren't being seen in negotiations. So we took the best the EU would give, hoping for later amendment should issues arise. It probably is the best deal we could've got, but it does have some flaws such as the situation now developing.

[@googleaccount4159]

@@ryanm4169 immense public pressure from a public that didn't know what they were asking for. God its depressing.

[@ryanm4169]

@@googleaccount4159 they knew what they were asking for, it was more of a question of what we could get the EU to agree to

[@harryp7346]

Firstly, it's a bit unfair/misleading to say the EU is "fighting" - it's more the case that the UK is trying to provoke a fight, and the EU isn't having it. As for what's going on, it's simple. The UK set itself stupid deadlines, mainly because of PM Boris Johnson - having been elected PM based on claims of oven-ready deals, and getting Brexit done, he didn't want to miss any more deadlines. Additionally, the UK side of negotiations appears to be quite incompetent. The EU got a reasonably good deal (for them) - not as good as keeping the UK as a member, but that was out of their hands. And this was concluded within the UK's deadlines. It was, of course, not very good for the UK. The "backstop" that Leavers hated had been replaced with Boris' new approach. However, despite this essentially being the reason why Boris was elected PM, the Tories were elected to power (with a landslide), and Lord Frost was able to get a deal before the end of last year, the UK now has decided the negatives (which they were warned of, especially by the Remain side) are now too unbearable. Of course, from the EU perspective, the matter is closed. The fact the UK doesn't like the deal the UK signed off on really isn't the EU's problem. And Brexit really isn't that big a deal to the EU - at least not on the scale it is for the UK. From their perspective, they managed to close Pandora's box, so there's no need to open it again. There may be a few minor issues to address along the way, but there's no reason to reopen - and basically restart - discussions (that took several years to conclude), simply because the UK was too incompetent and impatient when they had a change to negotiate.

[@arturobianco848]

True if the EU would be fighting the good citizens of the uk would really feel it. This mess is happening when the EU is trying to be nice.

[@Sanderos25]

Remember the UK government saying the EU would budge last minute in 2019? it starts to look more and more that the December breakthrough was actually the UK government realizing the EU was going to hold her foot down and have been planning on how to get out of aspects of the deal after ratification. Firstly moving deadlines unilaterally and now the threat of removing the Northern Ireland Protocol, forcing a game of hot potato with Northern Ireland in preserving the Good Friday Agreement. This is downright reckless and doesn't help the UK's image internationally. It honestly looks like the EU is the only party involved in trying to keep violence from erupting again and the UK is adamant on making it happen.

[@collan580]

@@Sanderos25 If you think about it ,it was easy for the EU to just dont change course because compared to the UK's losses the EU's losses are way lower. Brexit in general was a stupid idea because of this, the UK will be desperate for new trade deals but the problem is that they mostly sell stuff and buy stuff from the EU and as a '''small'' country its harder to make good deals.

[@Sanderos25]

@@collan580 True, but before a deal was reached the EU had something to lose as well. If no deal was agreed upon they would be forced by internal law to send Frontex to guard the border of Ireland, thereby nullifying the Good Friday Agreement and restarting the Troubles. Instantly making the EU the party that broke the Good Friday Agreement. I can guarantee that this topic is more important to the EU then the sausages, for the EU it probably is as important if not more as the level playing field.

[@mityaboy4639]

2234: the whole Mankind celebrates the incredible achievement of Terraforming Mars… except the UK which still tries to get a brexit deal done… unreal what is going on here really.

[@DaDunge]

the year 500 trillion: The heat death of the universe, the British prime minister promises they're almost done with the brexit negotiations.

[@kbqvist]

It is becoming more and more obvious that the UK never negotiated in good faith, with the intention to actually do what was agreeded upon.. Why would any nation want to make any agreement with the UK from now on?

[@godlovesyou1995]

The EU would not make any compromise to make an example of the UK. The uk signed this in desperation to avoid outrage at no deal in uk

[@vegemarkr4582]

@@godlovesyou1995 What compromises did you expect? The Uk could have just done a no deal brexit if they did not want to have to deal with the EU. You cant have the positives of the EU without being a member.

[@Chrissy717]

@@godlovesyou1995 bro, a country left the EU. That's it. End of story. The EU doesn't give Egypt any special rights, Russia doesn't get some soft rules and Chile has also no free pass. You chose to leave and now you are not willing to accept the consequences of your actions? The EU could have straight up said, that they don't want a deal and everyone would have lost something in the process, great isn't it? The EU wanted to negotiate, GB agreed, the EU agreed and now they are back paddling because they don't like it? Don't you see how that is just stupid? The UKs problems are not the responsability of the EU. The EU has a single market which it has to protect. The UK doesn't want to be part of it so we need hard borders. The fact that this is hard for the UK to accomplish without upsetting anyone is not the EUs fault.

[@kbqvist]

@@godlovesyou1995 One of the fundamental differences between being a member, and not being a member is that if you are not, there is going to be a border with chechs. If that can't be through the island of Ireland, the Irish Sea seems to be the best solution.

[@collan580]

@@godlovesyou1995 Why would the EU compromise the whole single market that consists of 400 million people and 27 countries, for 1 country with 60+ million people? It would created a lot of problem for the EU. GB wanted to leave, the government knew the risks but they did it for political gains anyway. Now that they had brexit they complaining about it.

[@TheOsis181]

Not much of a fight when it's just UK throwing a temper tantrum

[@QuietAsHeimdal]

Just England. The other countries in the UK agree that this situation & the Tories in general are pathetic.

[@peterparker219]

International trade requires a customs border between different economical areas. So there has to be one ! The UK chosed to leave the EU, so it is mandatory that between the UK and the EU has to be a customs border. The logical location would be between NI and the Republic of Ireland, but because of the Belfast agreement it is (nearly) impossible. So the UK and the EU negotiated on the dilemma CAUSED BY BREXIT, found a solution BOTH SIDES AGREED TO and that's it. It is the UK that undermined the agreement (NIP) from day 1 by not implementing the necessary customs checks they agreed to while fanning protest in the unionist communities in NI. The UK created the dilemma ! The UK signed the protocol ! The UK did not implement the checks they agreed to ! The UK fanned protests in NI instead of calming them down ! Why the hell should the EU give up it's sovereignty and put the value of their single market at risk for the sake of an absurd political adventure by the UK ??

[@Rgsetters]

Absurd politics adventure, you make me laugh. There will be violence in Northern Ireland unless there is flexibility. The EU will be culpable.

[@endintiers]

@@Rgsetters If there is violence in NI, the US and Australia at least (with militant Irish populations) will blame the UK, as will the EU. It doesn't even matter if this is true, the consequences for the UK will be dire.

[@Temo990]

@@Rgsetters Then why is the UK not flexible enough to implement the deal they signed? And it is funny that you mention violence in NI. As far as I know NI is still part of the UK and not the EU, so the violence would be more problem of the UK. Threatening other countries with violent riots in your own country doesn't seem very smart.

[@Rgsetters]

@@Temo990 that's exactly what I'm saying. If we just implement the agreement as signed there will be violence in Northern Ireland eventually. It is inflexible to just implement it, that was a stupid comment as it just described inflexibility. That being said we shouldn't have signed it. But the EU wouldn't have it any other way in the Brexit negotiations and essentially tried to use NI as a bargaining chip saying you either stay or NI will be affected. You are also right this is the UKs problem as violence will be in the UK. So don't be surprised when they act unilaterally to keep peace. To keep peace in NI either the UK acts unilaterally or the EU are more flexible. We would prefer to act with the bilateral agreement, but will do so without the EU if needs be.

[@Temo990]

@@Rgsetters If they were able to keep peace unilateraly the GFA wouldn't exist in the first place, would it? And the GFA gives the right to unify with Ireland if the majority in NI would want that.

[@panos1b]

Is this guy a clown or what ? He signed a deal and now he wants to change the deal? It’s like calling up your phone provider and telling them your going to pay less or you’ll just leave the contract. Hmmmm

[@lookingforsomething]

FPTP is a joke maintaining politicians that only a minority wants (Labour, Conservative). We need electoral reform.

[@panos1b]

@@lookingforsomething for sure. The FPTP system is outdated and pushes people to tactical voting

[@thatmarchingarrow]

@@lookingforsomething It's so sad that some time ago there was a chance to change the voting system, but the big parties' political propaganda managed to convince people to vote against it

[@gerbenvanessen]

British goverment think they are living in victorian times as British Empire Darth Vader Brit Gov: "I have altered the deal pray I do not alter it further" EU: "you have not, follow the terms or we take this to international court" Brit Gov: *whiny baby sounds*

[@BoraCM]

Well, that sounds reasonable if both sides don’t accept the deal. The whole point of negotiating a deal is to reach an agreement that both sides accept. If one side decides not to accept the deal, then it has clearly not got the support of both sides anymore, and should be renegotiated. Deals should have to work for the entities that sign them, not the other way around. With phone provider contracts, you can just cancel them whenever you want to, anyway, which is not the case with the Northern Ireland Protocol, so that analogy isn’t a good one. Anyway, the contract is often made clear beforehand, with little ambiguity, and you can just switch phone providers if you want service. With the Northern Ireland Protocol, there was no easy alternative for getting a deal signed, and, because there was also a time limit, there was even more pressure to get any deal signed. One side should not have to suffer for the decisions they made under different circumstances, if they eventually come to regret it. Your argument’s logic could be used to justify never allowing another Scottish referendum, and could be used to justify never reconsidering the Good Friday Agreement with the Republic of Ireland, despite it being signed under different circumstances.

[@fransezomer]

The best thing about all this is that the SAME PEOPLE THAT NEGOTIATED THIS FOR THE UK ARE NOW IN CHARGE AND ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT THEY NEGOTIATED!!! What a bunch of clowns... all of them, from top to bottom... hahaha lol

[@ricktatorship1885]

Ever heard of changing your mind?

[@drummingtildeath]

@@ricktatorship1885 yes, but this isn't like deciding what you want for dinner. They signed a deal. I can't change my mind once I've signed up to a mortgage, they can't change their mind once they've signed up to an international agreement. Plus they had plenty of warning that it would be a bad idea. Hell, Johnson himself said that no Conservative prime minister could ever sign up to this. And then he did, saying it was really great, and now he's back to saying it's terrible. I'm sure you are not really gullible enough to think he didn't already know how this would go. All he did was lie to get elected.

[@fransezomer]

@@ricktatorship1885 [Sigh]... When will you accept that these clowns who are in charge of your country have NO idea, whatsoever, of what they are doing? They turn faster than a flag in the wind. In your words 'Changing your mind' is ALL they do, that;s their policy. ie. Schools open, only to close them a day later... A corona vaccination pass? NEVER! only to announce it to be implemented in September... Just 2 days ago, Johnson announced that all should follow the track&trace app guidance concerning quarantaining, only to announce a day later that the app was no more than an advisory tool, and that some should abstain from quarantining even. It is sad to say but your government is a joke , a laugh, a farce. The EU, and all other countries in the world know this all too well and treats Johnson et al. accordingly.

[@Gabykk]

Nice ass Pietje. But yeah also you are right.

[@Copyright_Infringement]

To be fair, you have to act like a clown if you want to appease the clowns, and the NI government seems to be 90% clowns at the moment

[@JayJay5244]

I don’t agree with the EU in general but the EU is 100% in the right here… Johnson should’ve not signed up to the deal… it’s as simple as that… Also he lied when he said there will be no border between NI and GB…

[@Fezzy976]

technically you are right here but the NI - GB border HAD to be placed somewhere. And the good friday agreement specifically says that there can never be a border on the island of Ireland. Meaning no hard border on the land it self, this is why they chose to get around this by putting the border in the sea. But this doesn't mean that checks don't need to be done, as they do. And the fact that their are checks between NI and IRE means there is a hard border on the land it self and not in the sea. This is why the Irish are so angry, and the fact that other countries like the USA are totally against making a trade deal with the UK as they have conflicted with the good friday agreement. But yes Boris did say there is no border, but he HAS to say that. Because if he agrees there is a border weather it be on land or in the sea it still means there needs to be checks within the country it self. Meaning it totally pisses on the GFA.

[@aidancollins1591]

@@Fezzy976 The sea border does not violate the GFA(Good Friday Agreement). In fact, its the only place you can put the border that doesn't violate it. The EU is a customs union (also referred to as the 'single market'), meaning that goods, people, and capital can flow freely from one member state to the other. To achieve this, the EU has a uniform set of rules and regulations on goods/services to ensure quality across the entire customs union. Additionally, to promote trade amongst the member nations, they promote domestic European industry at the expense of foreign industry (subsidies for domestic industries, tariffs for foreign industries). So, the UK votes to leave this customs union, mainly due to fearmongering about the free flow of people into their country. This means that the UK now controls its own regulations, but it loses access to the single market and the trade deals that the EU signed. Problem is, the Republic of Ireland is apart of the EU and it shares a land border between Northern Ireland. According to the GFA, Ireland nor the UK can impede the free flow of goods and people between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. This effectively makes it so that if you want to sneak goods into the single market without passing EU customs checks and conforming to their regulations, you can just ship them through NI into the ROI and to the rest of the EU. Consequently, if you want to get into the UK, you can get in without any passport/visa through ROI to NI (something which negates the whole point of brexit). I am aware that you probably know all of this, I am just clarifying for the whole situation for anyone else reading who is confused. To summarize, there are now two markets that are right next each other, so a border needs to be put somewhere. It can't be put between NI and ROI because that violates a previous agreement, so what do you do? The only other option is a sea border and leaving NI in the EU single market, no other way.

[@JayJay5244]

@@aidancollins1591 Careful there laddie… Customs union and single market are not the same thing… Switzerland for example is in the single market but not the customs union while Turkey is in the customs union but not in the single market…

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

@@JayJay5244 but he's right tho the only way to legally solve this problem is a sea border you check goods coming into the port this would not only be in the guidelines of the GFA but would also solve the problem the UK has with the EU implementing a hard border on land would immediately tear apart the GFA and the results would be disaster

[@luc_libv_verhaegen]

The key phrase is right at the end: "Brexit will never end". Which might just exactly be what Mr. Johnson wants. It is probably his only real source of political power.

[@dorkangel1076]

Which is really ironic given he was elected on his slogan of getting Brexit done.

[@peterfireflylund]

I am a fan of your video driver work!

[@ryltair]

His gamble will probably have repercussions on the global stage though.

[@Bengt.Lueers]

UK will never stop lamenting on their own. Thus, they had to be stopped by someone. The EU did so by drawing a line in the sand. Or the sea, as it were.

[@cedrickropp]

Adequately put, but this line is still rather discontinues, let’s hope that we use a thick marker next time so there is absolutely no confusion about where it is and when you cross it.

[@nacholibre4516]

The EU isnt fighting at all. It's the UK fighting ghosts.

[@Kafei01]

Indeed there is no fight, to protocol is settled. There is nothing to fight for, the EU has nothing to do. UK : deal with your mess, we don't care, bye.

[@DeutschlandMapping]

@@Kafei01 Unfortunately the UK could force the EU to deal with their mess.

[@finestrellacaustica]

The EU and UK are not fighting at all. It's just the UK attempting to waste more EU time. Enough of that, thank you very much.

[@MrMartinSchou]

Look, when I signed the divorce papers, I didn't want to sign them! I didn't want to share custody of the kids with you at all! I wanted to be in control of the kids, I wanted you to pay me child support for the kids, and I wanted them to live in your house! Why won't you just renegotiate the divorce papers?!?!

[@bearcubdaycare]

Yeah, it's that embarrassing, but plays to the domestic base, apparently, and deflects blame for the foreseeable consequences of the deal (or tries to, anyway).

[@ryanm4169]

@@bearcubdaycare such foreseeable consequences such as?

[@nhaan4178]

My 5 year old niece is more responsible than the UK government

[@gerbenvanessen]

what are her policies regarding the NHS and climate change, they elected a clown in the UK I think your niece will be a step up for them but you need to start spreading awareness of her political manifesto ;P

[@nhaan4178]

@@gerbenvanessen She made herself very clear that she's against all vaccinations. She's not at all an antivaxer, she is educated on the benefits of vaccinations. It's because that doctor gave her all sorts of injections without a single candy. That's why she's salty

[@gerbenvanessen]

@@nhaan4178 mhhmm how does she feel about a (slight increase) of a candy tax on sugar to pay for all the candy that will be given out to people after a vaccination? it will also probably improve public health. but the accesibility to candy outside of getting vaccinated would be ( very slightly) restricted compared to now. ( through the rise in the financial cost of candy)

[@nhaan4178]

@@gerbenvanessen She has a sweet tooth so that may be close to impossible. Hopefully in a yew years time, our future PM will reconsider her position on sweets 🤣🤣🤣

[@DeutschlandMapping]

@@nhaan4178 wholesome

[@geniumme2502]

Has the UK fallen so far that we should treat it like a patient in a mental health center?

[@vallgron]

UK has a very long history of going back on agreements when it comes to Ireland

[@freeplex589]

Don’t play the blame game

[@DaDunge]

@@freeplex589 It's not really "the blame game" to recognized how poorly the British have treated the Irish.

[@leonmcnair4615]

@@DaDunge - And the Scots.

[@vallgron]

@@freeplex589 Want to explain how that's playing the blame game it's just a straight up fact

[@AkumaNoKuma]

not only about NI, to it's colonies to back in slave era.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Boris's Brexit Boogaloo: The Colouring Book.

[@stefanorizzo3384]

The colouring encyclopedia

[@karl-erlendmikalsen5159]

"who's in the right" isn't even a difficult question, and can only really be a question if you're too ideologically pro union and anti EU to see reality. Of course the EU is within the right. There is a super simple question: Given two different trade areas, where does the border go. Ireland (EU) is one area, the UK is another. Normally there would be a border between the two entities, but because of other political and geographical circumstances there could instead go a border between the islands of Ireland and Great Britain. But the border has to go somewhere. So either you make it so that there aren't two trade areas by unifying them somehow (Like some sort of union of European countries) or you decide where the border goes. The UK has said that they don't want to be part of the trade area, but that they also don't want there to be a border. It's like a child being mad that the candy they ate is gone.

[@cedrickropp]

Nicely put 👍

[@karl-erlendmikalsen5159]

@@cedrickropp Thanks :)

[@collan580]

@@karl-erlendmikalsen5159 Every remainer saw this coming. And the thing is more and more issues will come up, the torys will leve the government and leave the hard decisions for the other parties. In a globalised word to be alone is hard especially when you are basically surrounded by EU countries

[@frankieseward8667]

@@collan580 globalism has been around even before the Roman's. It's only because stuff like Planes and the internet that we've become more connected.

[@collan580]

@@frankieseward8667 Yeah but at that time far away countries doesnt really affected your own country. A trip that took us years, now those are just a day of travel.

[@rashomon351]

I'm just sick of it. As far as I remember, the Uk wanted to leave the EU. Now they don't want to deal with the consequences. And as always even when they were in the EU, they always want to cherry-pick. They've been an obstacle when they were in the EU, now they are an obstacle when they're out. If there's ever to be a chance of a united europe, best keep the UK out of it. Don't come back, just stay in your imaginary empire.

[@harryherman5371]

A lot of us in the UK hate this. We want to be in the EU. Brexit was a financial con and the intelligent have realised.

[@collan580]

@@harryherman5371 I hope that the exiters will learn their lesson, unfortunately remainers will suffer along the way but the UK has to realise that it isnt a wordwide empire with a huge influence, money and power anymore.

[@harryherman5371]

@@collan580 No one in the UK really believes we are still an empire. A small but large enough group were conned into nostalgic disenfranchisement for the benefit of a handful of oligarchs. It is treasonous stuff and will be treated that way once the people realise.

[@domefford864]

Funny how we leave Europe and wages rise, the economy is better than ever and we have more migrants risking their lives to get here. Imagine risking your life just to get out of France! House prices have rocketed, nearly everyone’s been vaccinated. yeah leaving the 4th reich was a disaster!

[@Norplinger]

It is interesting to hear the way you describe this issue and it makes me wonder if all English people see things this way. It would really help you to get perspective if you paid a bit of attention to the way this story is being covered in other countries. If you want insight into the complex politics of NI, Susan McKay is a journalist who has been reporting on contentious issues since the Troubles and she is a great source of information. Firstly, nobody is having a "bit of a tiff". The negotiations are over, the deal has been signed and is now international law and UK law. There is no need for a tiff. The EU stands, as always, ready to be accommodating and pragmatic within the confines of what has been agreed. Secondly, nobody other than the UK government and the DUP is saying that the problem is caused by the Protocol. The current problems are as a result of Brexit and the problems are more acute because of the particularly hard type of Brexit the UK government and the DUP pushed for, so it is difficult for anyone to genuinely feel sorry for them. Thirdly, there is nothing unsustainable about the NI Protocol. The vast majority of the people of NI want the Protocol to work. NI voted to stay in the EU and most people are just getting on with making the best of a bad Brexit. The tiny number of people who are really objecting to the Protocol are rapidly becoming irrelevant in NI politics as they are overtaken by the modern world. Fourthly, if the UK really wants to solve the problem it will agree to the necessary SPS agreement. The reason that NI is undergoing so many checks is because of the type of Brexit the UK chose. GB is experiencing exactly the same problems. It's not because of the Protocol. It's because of Brexit. Fifthly (sorry, I'm getting a bit carried way), this nonsense about Article 16 is a bluff and everyone knows it except the readers of red tops in England. There are no legal grounds to invoke the article, as nothing that is happening was unforeseen and that is easy to prove given the volume of material that was written on the subject. If they decide to go down that route they will only be further breaking international and UK law and leaving themselves open to legal repercussions at home and internationally. They have backed themselves into a corner and the only way out is for them to calm down and start behaving like adults. Brexit is over and they got the deal they wanted. Enough of the unicorns now.

[@WhichDoctor1]

Brexiteers need to grow a backbone and take responsibility for the outcomes of their decisions. Stop blaming everyone else for the mess you've made and own it. If this is the price we pay for "freedom" then say so. Say you were willing to sacrifice the politics and economy of Northern Ireland for the sake of English sovereignty. Because that's what Brexit always meant, and everyone had access to the information that proved it from the very start.

[@ryanm4169]

You say this as though sovereignty is a negative thing... the issue is not with the agreement, it's with the EU's determination to deny any renegotiation or amend in the light of issues surrounding the protocol. If anything this offer of negotiation is a precursor to the activation of article 16. If the EU will not negotiate the clause will suspend the protocol to safeguard the trade between the nations of the UK.

[@PtolemyJones]

Not much of a stale-mate when morally the EU is totally right and the UK completely wrong.

[@arawn1061]

When has morals stopped the Uk?

[@ryanm4169]

Morally? Not really. The EU is deliberately creating issues through lack of mobility to cut out a very limited risk to its single market. Not very moral, it's preventing a negligent risk to its economy while possibly creating the conditions for a 2nd troubles. I fail to see the mortality in this exchange.

[@arawn1061]

@@ryanm4169 You are the ones who opted to leave. You cant expect to keep the boons of the Eu while shirking any responsibility

[@ryanm4169]

@@arawn1061 not expecting 'boons' just free trade between the nations of the UK and a willing diplomatic channel with the EU that isn't the same as talking to a brick wall.

[@arawn1061]

@@ryanm4169 yeah free trade was a boon. If you want Free trade so much tear up the deal and place a border wall in northern Ireland. Remember that you wanted this

[@rburns5737]

The protocol actually works for people in Northern Ireland. Less than 1 In 5 business people want to scrap it.

[@Maussiegamer]

thats still 20%

[@FarmerSchinken]

@@Maussiegamer But it also means that 80% want to keep it as it is

[@Maussiegamer]

@@FarmerSchinken wow it seems that we are all able to do math :0

[@Cunnysmythe]

@@Maussiegamer 80% popularity is pretty amazing politically

[@leighchapman935]

@@Maussiegamer If it’s less than 1 in 5, then it is less than the 20% you’ve stated.

[@AdamFitton]

It will end when Northern Ireland joins the Repulblic of Ireland. Then start all over again when Scotland becomes independent.

[@grahamleiper1538]

I suspect the order of those events may be the other way round.

[@Fezzy976]

I want this to happen so much!

[@rusticpartyeditz]

Northern ireland will not join the south anytime soon. And Scottish independence will be an economic bloodbath. Let's leave the UK and set up trade barriers with our biggest trading partner. Hey, that sounds like what's happening here in NI but the EU will be a lot less accomodating.

[@grahamleiper1538]

@@rusticpartyeditz Why do you want to stay in the UK? Westminster isn't good for countries it's in charge of. Scotland's population fell between 1951 and 2001. No war, no pestilence, we struck oil in the middle of that. Single market turned that around, Brexit's broken it again.

[@Pyrokan]

Seems like there is a pretty simple solution to the problem. Reunification of Ireland.

[@JimRFF]

Well, the problem is not everyone in Ireland wants reunification, and they have a hundred-year history of violence contending over the issue... That's like saying the solution to all of the fighting in Afghanistan between the government and the Taliban is "reunification"

[@dittikke]

Yep, sure, but what would Boris do? It should be obvious by now that he and Frost are trying to see how far they can push it with the EU. Keeps their voting base loyal.

[@rusticpartyeditz]

@@JimRFF It would lead to violence. NI is not ready for unification. Until the unionists are on board, it is a non starter.

[@kenoliver8913]

@@rusticpartyeditz Indeed. Why on earth would prosperous, peaceful and democratic Eire take on an impoverished bunch of violent sectarians who think they're still living in Cromwell's time?

[@violetmontgomery5627]

Absolutely the UK. "An English Dealmaker" should be a term synonymous with bad faith agreements someone never intends to honour

[@MorgorDre]

Now that UK imports lower quality stuff, there is a serious chance they try to export it over northern ireland into EU

[@chris-mg5ui]

A bit like the EU importing loads of people they dont want and shuffling them towards the U|K

[@cedrickropp]

“Yes and who suffers? The lowly sewer rat or citizen as they dare call themselves? Ah, who am I kidding nobody who is important even thinks about them. You just have to tell them things they think they will like and they’ll vote for you for the rest of their pitiful lives”, or at least that’s what I think the British Parliament thinks. Good job of doing an democracy UK, hope you are happy with your one party government that makes such quick and decisive decisions, that fill the pockets of the rich so nicely.

[@NLTops]

@@chris-mg5ui People are not goods and can't be imported. The vast majority of refugees actually don't end up in the UK. But as usual the Brits overestimate their contribution.

[@MorgorDre]

@@chris-mg5ui That has nothing to do with my statement.

[@nhecos2998]

There is only one side that is "fighting" and it is the UK fighting within itself. Actually the whole argument from the EU side is that there's nothing to fight about because a deal was signed by the two parties.

[@canadalogue1421]

Scotland seen this coming back in 2012 at the start of the Scottish referendum. This is playing out exactly as so many of us predicted nearly a decade ago.

[@Jay...777]

Frosty is throwing a temper tantrum cos he doesn't like what he asked for. EU is babysitting Frosty and his crew - there, there now, we are here to help, but we cant have a brand new protocol can we? Oh no, an international agreement is a law you know.

[@cedrickropp]

Absolutely brilliant!

[@ntlespino]

Waiting for the prophesied 2024 Irish Reunification to solve this...

[@borisgalos6967]

That was always the plan and, I suspect, the Tories expected NI to leave by now so it wouldn't be an issue.

[@rusticpartyeditz]

Gives me a good date to stock up on the guns. If this leads to irish unification I'm going after the EU.

[@bearcubdaycare]

@@rusticpartyeditz You're blaming the EU for the NI situation? The UK created this mess long before the EU existed.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

@@borisgalos6967 I mean frankly what I really feel towards Unionists is kind of a laughing pitty they have so much loyalty to a regime * mainland UK who from day one did not give two fucks about them has never seen them as anything other then a Burden and has wanted rid of them for years let's be honest if a voted was yes United Ireland I think the majority of the mainland UK would breathe a sigh of relief because that shower is no longer their responsibility

[@peope1976]

UK isn't even doing checks on goods coming in through Dover (yet).

[@pawernielsbroek3971]

Thats sows that the uk stil want to be in eu but not in the eu if you get what i mean

[@peope1976]

@@pawernielsbroek3971 Well. I believe it is more that they don't have the manpower do it and they are hurting with imports (and exports).

[@gavinstacey8862]

Another Wave (or at least an Outbreak) of Foot and Mouth Disease is currently pending. Being unable to carry out SPS checks on food products from anywhere is seriously unwise, it also raises the importance of the checks between GB and XI (Nordirland).

[@97Corvi]

Horror story in 3 words UK: "Brexit Never Ends"

[@cedrickropp]

Lol

[@kenoliver8913]

I'm safely on the other side of the world, so can afford to laugh at the Brexiter's stupidity. "We've got to leave because Brussels looks after itself, not us". So leaves. "No fair! Brussels is looking after itself, not us!". Guys, the EU owes you absolutely nothing after the way you have continually lied about, insulted it and done your level best to disrupt it at avery turn.

[@aishiksaha808]

Anyone who has studied the history of British imperialism will know that the Brits never really bother for international treaties if that's inconvenient to them.

[@marneus]

Truth.

[@Bb13190]

Boris kept breaking his commitments and doesn't understand why other people don't do the same. Maybe that's why he is in its third marriage lol (Sorry for the personal attack, but I could resist).

[@JimRFF]

So actually, this is a logically valid criticism. It may not be the STRONGEST criticism, since it is directed at his character rather than his actions or policies, but it is NOT an ad hominem fallacy. If you had said "BoJo cannot possibly be a decent prime minister, since he's had three marriages and that makes him a bad, unreliable man," then THAT would have been fallacious ad hominem -- basing the ground of the argument [BoJo is a bad PM] on the claim [BoJo has an unstable marital history]... BUT if you claim "BoJo has a history of failing to understand commitments and honor his own word" and then use his three marriages as evidence that he, on a personal level, has historically failed to honor his own marital arrangements, then that is an appropriate use of objective evidence [BoJo has had 3 marriages] to support a subjective claim [BoJo as a person appears to be unreliable and willing to go back on his word/agreements], and then from there make a statement on his performance in the role of governmental leader [since BoJo as a person appears to be unreliable, it stands to reason that he will lead his government in the same way]. Not all personal attacks are necessarily unreasonable; sometimes they can still be a valid argument

[@kapitankapital6580]

"it looks like BREXIT will never end" And that, my friends, is exactly the point. The Conservative Party don't care about unionists having trouble in NI, they want their political golden goose of BREXIT to keep winning them elections for as long as possible. We will continue to see more and more friction between the British government and the EU, because it is politically expedient for the government. International politics is always governed first and foremost by the domestic interests of the negotiating parties.

[@sabinehahn9774]

I cannot see this doing GB any favours in the long run, but hey, it's your country. Can't imagine Scotland, NI or Wales will be particularly thrilled out it.

[@kapitankapital6580]

@@sabinehahn9774 "GB" doesn't do the negotiating, the government does. The Conservative Party doesn't care about Scotland, NI or Wales, in fact they're hotbeds of opposition to the government.

[@collan580]

@@kapitankapital6580 It wont be a fight, the thing is if the UK wants to fight with the EU the UK's losses will be way higher than the EU's. And the EU knows this as well so it doesnt care about what the UK's government want. Its basically a fight that you cant win.

[@kapitankapital6580]

@@collan580 but the UK government doesn't win by getting the best possible trade deal, they win by getting a deal that is bad enough that it constantly needs to be challenged but not so bad that they get blamed for crashing the economy. Their aim is to get re-elected, not to make money trading sausages.

[@ragzaugustus]

I love how the UK's arguments are to literally ignore the old "perfidious Albion", which they do by being...well...Perfidious Albion.

[@envysart797]

Brexit has always been about getting Tories elected, not improving the country

[@00chla50]

The last time i was this early the UK was still part of the EU

[@goblyn5915]

I've gotta say this channel is so good, keep it up! :)

[@arturobianco848]

With a question this stupid i sometimes wonder but i agree they ussually have good content.

[@Arsenic71]

UK: Yeah nah, all products we ship to NI will stay in NI. Trust us, you can trust us. EU: 🤦‍♂️

[@colmcorbec7031]

Oh no, we made a shitty deal and now we don't like it... Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving.

[@heylolp9]

Brexit is like diarrhea you got by eating spoiled food at home then blaming the producer of the food for letting it spoil after you bought it but before you ate it i.e. very shitty outcome and painful

[@redsamson5185]

sounds like northern ireland could benefit from getting rid of westminster

[@rusticpartyeditz]

Not in my lifetime

[@zayanrahman5436]

Simple question out of the blue: Why is the UK holding a baseball bat? Shouldn't it be a cricket bat?

[@fedethefico]

You have to put in context why 20% of checks (estimated by NI executive) are in NI. There's a logical answer and it is important ot provide it, instead of assuming its implication that "it's too many checks". The type of flows through NI explain why there's the need for so many checks. Please, add it, and don't take political spin for facts. Reducing checks is not supported by facts at the moment. Risks to Single Market (which means, possibly an EU baby dying because of under quality products sold through NI/GB) is not insignificant.

[@MichaelWarman]

And how likely do we think it would be for other countries to decide they want to sign trade deals with the UK while they're publicly trying to go back on one they signed mere months ago? New Zealand and the USA have already issued statements saying the UK behaviour is unacceptable

[@Bibky]

Tory government signs a deal that is terrible for Northern Ireland and is bad for the UK economy overall. CONS +5

[@Chrissy717]

Can we make this an official meme on TLDR videos please?

[@choobs8511]

Pain. 2030s: Ireland and Scotland leave the United Kingdom. CONS +5 LAB-1

[@omgnuub]

UK is acting embarrassing. Pathetic.

[@vaclavkrpec2879]

I never really wanted to sign my mortgage agreement with the bank, either. I only did it to "get my house done". But I don't use that fact as an argument for going to the bank and ask them to forget about the loan... That's stupid, isn't it? Isn't it, Boris?

[@davidblair9877]

BJ: “I did a dumb and I want to redo but they won’t let me and that’s not fair.”

[@LeifNelandDk]

No, you are free to join EU anytime.

[@collan580]

@@LeifNelandDk Yeah im not sure about that. Every country have to accept them back and probably the deal with the EU would be way worse when they left(for example GBP should be changed to Euro)

[@grimpliop1538]

great video, keep up the good work

[@solomon6006]

Your first

[@solomon6006]

First comment

[@ericbischoff9444]

The UK wants all the advantages and none of the constraints. This is not how international treaties work.

[@rsp7029]

you do good work lads

[@curtiswfranks]

The EU's position has been crystal clear and constant the ENTIRE time. This is on the UK.

[@undead9736]

No it has nothing to do with clarity the uk want to change the deal the eu wont move because of the "screw the uk" attitude

[@tomaslane6018]

At a certain point the EU needs to just punish the UK without negotiation. They should and cannot trade with a country that doesn’t keep its word.

[@theirishempire4952]

I know the best punishment, We simply take the North back XD

[@rusticpartyeditz]

@@theirishempire4952 An invasion? That would be interesting if not one hell of a bloodbath.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

@@rusticpartyeditz I mean I don't think that would ever happen but tbh I am genuinely interested to see if the mainland UK would actually do anything about it probably would but realistically there's not gonna be a war over a shitty piece of land no-one actually cares about outside the island

[@KhaalixD]

Great video!

[@compphysgeek]

I signed a contract for the purchase of a car the other day. But now the bank wants me to pay, can you believe that? They have the audacity after I walked into the bank and wanted a loan to buy a car to ask me now for money? I mean, wtf!? I am in debt now and it's the bank's fault for giving me what I wanted and the car dealer for selling me a car.

[@carlpeberdy9086]

But, but, Boris he'd get Brexit done - surely this can't mean that he lied?!!

[@highlandpiper6389]

Chuck Boris does not say lies. He invents them.

[@sarank1809]

Brexitor leadership: who ever thought brexit would be so complicated Everyone else: everyone knew, we told you all the time Brexitor leadership: it's just something no one could have fore seen

[@amysutt]

tbh the i don't see any legal challenge going anywhere the standard has been met to trigger article 16 the deal did lead to to serious economic, societal issues that are likely to continue for the foreseeable future

[@ChrisWalter]

And a fair amount of diversion of trade.

[@rusticpartyeditz]

Don't talk like that on here. It sounds too much like common sense and most people on here just want to bash the UK and brexit!

[@AA-im3pz]

In all honesty, that’s their problem. The UK should have predicted this. Oh wait! They actually did! They just ignored it and signed a deal for political image...

[@panos1b]

Also the EU diagram with all the countries on it (from the EEA to Turkey) predicted it so early lol

[@captainkirkmc6748]

But there is one way out of this: Irish reunification. Then you have a hard border between Ireland and the UK, the latter of which can be left to squabble on its own. The Unionists in NI can leave or stay, it makes no matter. There never must be a hard border between NI and the ROI.

[@rusticpartyeditz]

Try to force a united ireland without the support of the unionists and it won't be the unionists leaving. Never tell me where I can live. It would be civil war.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

@@rusticpartyeditz thats why you would hold a Border poll see the main problem and I don't need Sherlock to tell you this In the event a Border poll wins no matter how many voted yes no matter how many people certified the vote was legitimate and no matter how many recounts of the vote took place a big chunk of the Unionists would refuse to accept the democratic vote and call it rigged but let's be honest from day one of northern Ireland the Unionists have never cared for Democracy a century later this has not changed

[@Brian_Thoms]

The solution is simple, clear, and I feel has been under our noses the whole time: The UK must fund a breeding centre to create a hybrid race of mermen and mermaids to work customs in the Irish Sea.

[@PASTRAMIKick]

ez

[@RumbleKingJoe]

Our best chances lie with dolphins. An aquatic mammal in a similar size category as humans with a relatively high intelligence

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

@@RumbleKingJoe the problem is if we were able to explain what was going on to Dolphins they would sabotage all our sea industry

[@djsmithe]

Boris Johnson: The rules don't apply to me, even the rules I agree to.

[@rmsgrey]

This is the "oven ready" deal in action? Apparently in Boris-speak, "oven-ready" means "needs further negotiation and is far from oven-ready"

[@tomowen5901]

I'm happy that I'm experiencing the negative affects of Brexit already despite not being old enough to vote at the time. Really fair 😁😁

[@1conor]

"Irish unionists" never heard it put like that, most unionists would hate to be called Irish

[@jamesberry5578]

He meant Southern Irish Unionists not The British ones in Northern Ireland. Slainte.😎

[@randomdebris]

There are really only "two" actual "solutions" … 0: Ireland exits the EU 1: Irish reunification inside the EU (NI out of the UK) 0 will NEVER happen.

[@seanireland423]

Just rewatched GCP Greys video "Impossible Trinity" from 2019. And its exactly that.

[@MackeyDeeez]

Basically the north of Ireland has the best of both worlds in this situation. But the DUP insists they have it much, much worse.

[@lukas081559]

Well its very likely that Northern Ireland will join the Republic or Ireland in the long term if the have a border between the UK and NI and the older voters die off. Edit: And who wants to blame them? Thats the easiest solution everybody can stay there, they have no border, they have freedom of religion so thats not really an issue. I guess the sentimental old people just don't want to give the idea about being brittish up

[@immortaltyrant2474]

No it doesn't. We have to abide by EU rules despite not being in the EU nor having any say in the said rules. We're a semi-colony.

[@immortaltyrant2474]

@@lukas081559 You clearly don't understand the situation at all.

[@lukas081559]

@@immortaltyrant2474 Enlighten me

[@immortaltyrant2474]

@@lukas081559 You mention that Ireland has freedom of religion as if religion is the main problem when it's not. Further, it's not simply out of sentiment that many people here feel they are British. We *are* British, and still make up the majority. We're proud of our heritage and history of serving the country in its wars, for instance. We are loyal to the monarchy. It's not even just about identity though. Ireland doesn't even have a proper NHS-like system. It doesn't have Personal Tax Allowance either. I doubt it would be able to pay for our large public sector. Furthermore, too many people resent us there anyway. It's not ready economically or socially to take on Northern Ireland, even if we did want it.

[@cathalsmyth6366]

As a NI citizen i definitely agree more with the EU. Another border in the island of ireland would be a fucking stupid decision. Especially when i live close to the border. It would cause more problems than it would solve. Anyway i dont even see why border checks in the irish sea is such a bad thing. NI would still be in the UK so why are they getting so mad about it. It makes such little sense.

[@euansmith3699]

From what I understand, certain Unionist parties say that NI shouldn't be treated any different to any other part of the UK. So they won't agree to an Irish Sea border 🙄

[@cathalsmyth6366]

@@euansmith3699 but like it is separated by a literal sea like come on. I do not understand them

[@euansmith3699]

@@cathalsmyth6366 I blame William the Conqueror and Oliver Cromwell. 😣

[@jobkramer1359]

There is only one thing more damaging to international reputation than immediately after signing a deal starting to complain about it and threatening to tear it up... and that is actually following through on that threat.

[@jamesr9227]

I’m American, I watched a 10 minute video about the options were for the metaphorical wall for people and goods before the 2019 election, and it was apparent that there was no option that would just “Get Brexit Done.” The endgame is the Good Friday agreement is untenable. USA, as guarantors of the GFA, is going to have to pick a side on who broke what. Such a mess

[@bothi00]

Quite right. And Joe Biden has already indicated his sympathies to Ireland and upholding the GFA. He is not pleased with Johnson's childish conduct so far.