The Off-Meta Build That Won A World Championship

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[@DinkSmalwood]

Swede here. The way you pronounced "Jönköping" was better than any other english speaker I've heard. You even nailed the "k" which is pronounced "sh" in this name. This level of attention to details is one of the many things that makes your documentaries really stand out. Keep up the good work mate!

[@vulekv93]

I was sure he fucked up pronunciation just by default.

[@dexii754]

Haha i tought he said a chineas town first, then I realised he said jönköping. That "Ping" got me

[@settispaghetti2273]

To be clear, its still butchered, but i have to agree, very well done by gbay. Truly a detail oriented documentary maker.

[@DurdleDers]

I gotta admit... while it *IS* fun to watch Gbay grind through solo queue and soft rage after getting ganked from river because he pushed up with no wards, this content is so much more his calling. Documentaries take time and dedication to the subject matter, which he has shown time and time again. I never used to really care about pro league, whether past or present (except maybe being curious if any other region would ever take LCS worlds from Korea) but these videos and stories have really been entertaining and educational, and even besides the actual stories and players themselves, I often find myself learning fringe facts and tidbits about the history of the game that are always neat. TLDR:* Keep up the good work Gbay. Documentaries are definitely your thing.

[@MTGRCCS]

who cares about a silly rank anyway man all you get is a skin

[@JasioniBubbaloni]

Really well said, I’m glad Gbay found his calling, seems like he’s having fun too

[@MooShaka89]

He just needs to learn Irelia

[@BubblesRevenge]

Gbay might have found his niche as the historian of competitive League

[@sorenkair]

no offense to him, but i might turn on notifications again!

[@ponyfish157]

I remember riot fixing his headbutt combo so it is easier to cast. Hearing somebody say today that alistars combo was a way of skill expression may sound weird but i remember it being messed up fairly frequently even by good players

[@ballboys607]

The main issue with it before was that you needed below 20 ping to consistently pull it off. It was pretty much impossible to pull it off 100% unless you lived next to the servers (or lived in Korea), or in tournament play.

[@adubs.]

@@ballboys607 thats not true. I pulled it off consistently with 60 ping or more. It was about timing which took practice.

[@richec4486]

iirc now there is a small buffer time period when the W hasn't yet finished where pressing Q will complete the combo once W ends. Previously there wasn't so the timing had to be really good for it to work.

[@CrashBandicootFan100]

I remember needing to W while out of range, waiting for Ali to walk up untill he charges at full range. That was the easiest way to do the combo for me. What was that, like season 3, 4?... Not sure. I started playing mid S3, Wonder when the change that made it easier was out.

[@nimahanna1709]

I remember feeling like an idiot for missing it after it was fixes

[@murderousmuffin5561]

On G2's channel, their players once played a game in which they had to name as many season 1 players as they could. Perkz, right off the bat, said "Shushei". I think it's great that contemporary stars of the game still remember who paved the way for them, and it shows how aware Perkz is of his game's story.

[@toks463]

i think it was caps but yeah

[@cpt.flamer7184]

There was a video on G2 channel where Rekkles and Micky were answearing some questions and talking and Micky said that he was a big fan of fnatic because of Shushei and he even used to play midlane with ap Ali and ap Gragas, because of that first team he had try out for was fnatic. So yeah, Shushei had pretty big influence on the scene ;p

[@ChinoWantan]

And after all of this we didn't get an Alistar Fnatic skin.....

[@TryThisTech2024]

He picked gragas

[@guardener]

@@TryThisTech2024 No, Riot picked the most played champions, according to lol.gamepedia: Riot later created and released Fnatic-themed skins, a custom for World Championship winners, and chose each player's most-played champions during the Season 1 Worlds: Jarvan IV (Cyanide), Karthus (xPeke), Gragas (Shushei), Corki (LamiaZealot) and Janna (Mellisan).

[@CarlosSilva-je5sp]

@@guardener true they start asking players in 2013

[@hermie9737]

Dude literally cosplayed Gragas. Btw, S2, they took the Worlds last winning line up as skins.

[@rc-by5mq]

Wonder when TheScore Esports will rip this off

[@CasaiAgicap]

Give it a week

[@Justpim19]

@@CasaiAgicap 2 days take it or leave it

[@NAJMYNex]

@@Justpim19 why wait at all I'll send them the link they can have it out tonight

[@CasaiAgicap]

@@Justpim19 i was being generous, but you're probably not wrong

[@steatopigeon]

Nahhh, they can't; faker's zed outplay wasn't shown during the conclusion when they talked about crazy mechanics; and TheScore is contractually obliged to include that clip.

[@ugotnot4173]

The wave of nostalgia that forms from seeing all these old highlights and players is really something special. God I wish I could go back to the glory days of league...

[@bigboiganiga8356]

Remembering the playing the old map again, brought tears to my eyes. In a bad way.

[@woozywitanuzi6208]

He should've played the Reginald - Wildturtle video 😂😂

[@wilkinlow]

All the champs are freaking broken tho

[@jayjax229]

@@wilkinlowWhen everyone is broken, nobody is broken. It was better then when that exists to now when people are only strong right before a new skin is released.

[@daquandollar3692]

You might say the same thing a couple of season from now, enjoy what you have while it last...

[@Aliciel]

When you suddenly remember Doublelift is a Blitzcrank one trick in Epik Gamer

[@bar-elch7809]

Dude i thought the same thing

[@TwelveTables]

When you remember that cause you were his substitute player for Epik... Countless hours chatting/arguing with Elementz about theory crafting and developing gold efficiency charts for league. Trying out everything and anything because it was interesting to say what if...

[@Alice429800]

And when Dyrus was an ADC main lol

[@kekwkekw4987]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKPYfYZolsp3f5Y HONESTLY HAD NO IDEA HE WOULD DO THIS

[@niklas9848]

@@Alice429800 or Yellowstar played adc in tournaments :D

[@andreim1998]

That's the definition of an "O.P. player" literally created new metas that Riot had to nerf the champs, i mean he won the game back then

[@andrescorma]

Its crazy that I havent touched league in like 5 or 6 years, this is the only league channel Im still subbed to and I still enjoy it so much.

[@themlgbrosftw4960]

Banger

[@Xhandel]

The sad thing is that, when something like this happens in actual league, riot brands it as "a mistake" and changes it asap to mantain the meta they want at that point.

[@gustav8253]

How do you have this much time to make these? They are always really good quality! :)

[@PixelMixels]

It's his 9 to 5 and he loves doing it

[@towlie4029]

to be fair, the distance between uploads shows he takes his time to create these good videos.

[@greenjacket2]

A little thing called quarantine maybe

[@justineluizpedrina2503]

@@greenjacket2 even not in quarantine he make quality videos. His 3M views doc for M5 was also good and that was a year ago

[@Snarflez]

He’s got plenty of experience and he likes it. When something is a passion, it doesn’t feel like work and you really strive to make it done well.

[@shacolin6546]

20:49 Totally disagree. Freedom of creativity > overloaded kits that gives the illusion of skill expression, but in reality do so much stuff that takes away decision making attached to risks. We need more Singed, more inting Sion, more banner of command/zz'rot portal Heimerdinger, more AD Malzahar and less of Aphelios, Akali or Yasuo.

[@sorinnoctis652]

Wish we had more macro playstyles.

[@MrAgorar]

I honestly want my AP scaling on my Caitlyn traps. Remove this dumb headshot mechanic but leave the amount of traps I get the same and let me play AP cait mid. Now I have to do so with jhin. And it's not very fun after the 51rst game where you have a good kda but everyone is still flaming you.

[@SirBangTidy]

Disagree, too many people will just copy abuse those creative builds and if they're op they'll eventually get nerfed, it's not sustainable because league isn't a small game anymore.

[@andersmadsen2145]

Yep, I feel the same, this is probably why I don't like league as much as I used to, I like the fun attached to weird builds.

[@imbricitor]

YES

[@ereder1476]

10:35 dude wtf ahahahahah

[@Gandorhar]

Lmfao I didnt even see that haha

[@wangyuanxi]

dude got headbutt pulverized

[@ArchPolandPL]

Gragas cosplay

[@Mirro18]

I saw that live. It was amazing cause they laughed so hard afterwards that dude hardly got up cause belly started hurting (belly slam contributed I feel ;P)

[@Freekymoho]

There's a reason Shushei was known as the real world Gragas (despite this video being about his performance on AP Ali). You can see it very briefly at 19:27 ; that's Shushei doing an Impromptu gragas cosplay to celebrate their big win, with his shirt undone to expose his belly, and a watercooler as his barrel

[@ralfmeier541]

he was my hero for years after i started lol in s1 i tryharded 3 seasons to be dia 1 and i finaly faced this guy in soloq SHUSHEI it was on stream and he honored my plays cause we won of me it was on of my best days in my life not gonna lie

[@hmmmooops]

"The game has moved on from such strategies" Literally every Malphite: I reject your reality.

[@part-timedebiru9681]

S11 rengar: _funny_

[@vernonaw00]

when you see Doublelift is on Lee Sin and the only player still playing today you know the game is old

[@hansklaus8657]

dyrus played for a long time to and so do others just not at this lvl :D

[@Bogoos21]

Soaz still there...

[@woozywitanuzi6208]

Pobelter, Wildturtle

[@kuzeykara6536]

or on Blitzcrank

[@albertsuchan9366]

Yellowstar is in the video, and also still playing today

[@gabrielarteaga5255]

"Creative builds like this are gone" DoinB: I'm a joke to you?

[@jacekwaasiewicz716]

off meta builds got almost killed thats why lol is so boring now

[@cooldude321x]

Jacek Wałasiewicz again to gabriel’s point an off meta build literally won the 2019 worlds playiffs.

[@mossix2]

Putting a tank with high base damage on mid lane isnt really reinventing the wheel

[@ohlala9546]

Viable hybrid scalings nearly got eliminated completely. Mixed damage output on a single char too. The game was made much more predictable (for pro play mainly) and creativity was hurt in the process. There are even 18 chars without even a single AP scaling. A creative build isn't just about the role. The item build matters too, and that is what has been crippled in the process to fit this game into e-sports

[@TraxisOnTheLines]

@@ohlala9546 I agree and it even makes other stuff weird - like Lee Sin. Only his w scales with AP, on a champ that will never build AP, and the items in league now don't facilitate any kind of hybrid options. The old Triforce with AP might make sense on some characters because it really would boost every stat. Now it feels like they throw on AP ratios for fun without any chance of them being used. Why does the AA buff on Qiyanas W have an AP scaling when nothing else in her kit does? Is it some kind of meme that hextech gunblade could be useful on more than 3 characters?

[@recon13ful]

Thank you Gbay. I'm an old head when it comes to league, watching your documentaries on the season 1, 2, and 3 days truly warms my heart.

[@berriblu3926]

Man, it's so sad. I always cry with your documentaries because of how heartfelt and how someone so good just disappears. I hope your channel grows. It's so inspiring how you can make someone feel so attached to someone they've never heard of for the entirety of their lives through a twenty minute video

[@wevegottrouble5891]

"He was born too early" Honestly? I think the fault isn't on him - the fault is on Riot Games. We've always had and still have innovative players who create new metas. Hell, how do most people even think metas come to exist? It's the innovative people who test, practice, understand and put their plans to good use, and when that plan is really good it becomes the meta. The meta is nothing but a bunch of copy cats trying to replicate what works best, and Riot Games in recent years has avidly tried to PUNISH players for being experimental with their builds; like that one time the Nunu Support player used Smite and was harassed as well as punished for it by Riot Games. Over the last years, this creativity has completely died off. Items like Banner of Command, Ohmwrecker, Zz'Rot Portal, etc. were completely tarnished and later on even removed, all for the sake of removing diversity and ironing out the idea that everyone should build the same thing on the same lane with the same characters. Innovation isn't encouraged by Riot Games, you can tell by the hundreds of changes they've made to characters that HAD the opportunity to create a new playstyle. Karma used to be able to shield minions, Soraka used to be able to heal Minions, Alistar pushed entire waves with Banner of Command and a fully upgraded E, etc. What do we have these days? Nothing. Everyone scales flat on their intended AP or AD ratio and they only poke fun at off-meta players by giving them weird troll scalings on some of their abilities. Like... wow, Ashe's ult has AP scaling? That's a totally legit reason to just build AP Ashe, definitely. Oh, Akali has pure AD scaling on her moves? Totally gonna pick up lethality Akali now, lol. I wish Riot Games stopped being so stuck up about their beloved meta and accepted that this game's meta is created by the players, not backwards. They rework characters that hurt nobody instead of releasing new characters with the new moveset they intended for the reworked character. They REMOVE items before they consider releasing items that can counter them, turning the game state into a boring, unfunny Arms Race between both ADCs to see who builds IE first. And worst of all, which pisses me off the most: They keep changing the jungle into things nobody in their right mind has ever asked for, like randomly spawning seeds that can enable downright unfair escapes or engages all while upscaling the difficulty of jungling to make sure that off-meta junglers can't exist. So... yeah. The fault isn't on Shushei if you ask me. The fault is on Riot Games for dicking on innovative people like him with unnecessary balance patches. EDIT: I'm actually glad people positively engage into- and against this comment without punches under the waistline. It's good to see that people are willing to discuss the state of the game rather than downright being rude about it.

[@nisc92]

Remember the Singed Support player, that I think actually got banned?

[@BigGiantMonke]

I need an option to like a comment twice

[@TSPhoenix2]

I think some changes like removing Banner & healing/shielding minions, etc needed to happen, and that sometimes changing stuff to change the meta is good. But overall I think you're right in saying that Riot changes a lot of things specifically to stop variance, Riot regularly patches things out just because it isn't what they intended, rather than it being problematic for game health. Over the years you can tell that if Riot makes a new champion they don't even bother testing the champion with a variety of builds or in other roles. There was a long stretch where every single champion released would be OP in a role other than the one they were intended for, or be busted building AP when they were supposed to be a tank/support. Their QA was just embarrassing and in the end they just stopped giving AD champions AP ratios and other things that could lead to balance issues. But it isn't just Riot at fault here, the majority of League players like things this way, they don't want to think about item builds, that's not why they play the game. Pro game casters often played into this in how they responded to itemisation choices by using a loss to say "see its bad" but in the event of a win "that wasn't why they won", unless it became the new norm then they just sweep their comment under the rug. And the league community absolutely embraced this mentality and was actively hostile to any kind of build experimentation in games. People might think of the expression "Korean build" as proof that innovation is still valued, but the phrase had a hidden meaning: that experimentation should be left to the Koreans and that people better not be trying anything new in their games.

[@Palontras]

@@DisastrousIntentionally If you think supporter players can only support on bot, you should seriously stop playing.

[@wevegottrouble5891]

@@DisastrousIntentionally I can't speak positively for AP Ashe because the last time I saw one we had the worst, most unfunny ARAM game in a month. The enemy Ashe bought AP items and their Zac went completely mental on everyone, starting to run it down mid claiming that Ashe is afk. It's not their fault for going AP Ashe, but holy crap the moment someone tries to be innovative with the wrong guy on the team, they set themselves up to get harassed.

[@Dadarkgamer]

Hey Gbay i've been watching you for about ~6 years now. I stopped watching when you had a content creator identity crisis and started doing daily uploads because i knew that just wasn't the type of videos you wanted to make or i wanted to watch. I'm just really glad to see you making the videos much more akin to the ones i subscribed for those years ago even if you are still releasing your 'road to x elo' videos.

[@Delaj]

Like everything in life, it was fun while it lasted.

[@shin1300]

Dear Gbay I started League right about the same time you started making videos and by coincidence I watched them from the art of league of legends to lol vs dota and a game of millimetres. From then I subscribed to you and have been a passing fan from time to time and when you disappeared from youtube that made me sad along with stonewall88 disappeared from the scene. I'm really glad you found the content you like making and we can see the quality and passion from these documentary videos. But most importantly glad your back buddy.

[@Bigfish92]

This was a great trip down memory lane seeing old names and such. Although me and my friends would play AP Alistar and Gragas before seeing it at S1 worlds but we weren't very good with it and only saw it as a fun cheesy build with little to no viability, boy were we wrong.

[@kutsumiru]

I'm really glad I watched this video The production quality is fantastic, and I ended up really liking Shushei's story It's bittersweet that he's been kind of forgotten to time, I hope it's some form of consolation that you can spread his story to thousands now

[@ducks7015]

"just an odd character built in a wonky way" thats why im here tho

[@panchorosselli]

0:54 Am I the only one amazed by Westrice? I can't believe that dude went from old school, to play on good teams on early seasons, to nothing (including the infamous ember team with all the salary and stuff) to now being in the coaching staff of what some analyst say, NA memes aside, one of the best teams in the world: C9. I was actually amazed when I started seeing him around this year, how long has he been in coaching?

[@AllGodsDue]

He has been part of c9's coaching staff for years now. One of liquid's coaches was also a old school player with a very brief and bad career.

[@hazebro3786]

old swain was my best friend .. miss him

[@darkestkhan]

I miss old taric top... That was fun.

[@Hipsterjes]

I think we all have champions we miss. Reworks have claimed too many fun builds. But those memories will never be forgotten :)

[@TheRedKnightOfPain]

I miss off meta brews... they're fun and goofy and so fun when you could pull them off, mine was JG Ahri, alas the jg was made so tough, it couldn't be done... on the brewer's note I'm curious what Shushei is up too, like if he found something to brew ideas around.

[@MamaTaKana]

Gbay, these are really, really good. Not many people can make this kind of content. I swear you have a talent for making documentaries.

[@masterhidsert1043]

Phenomenal documentary, thanks for making it!! I love to learn about League's past :)

[@Nevilleg930]

"combos way more interesting than a simple headbutt pulverize..." shows Qiyana button mash a player from existence from fog of war

[@SinOfDisaster]

remember season 1 Sion. Best champion ever 100% ap Ratio Q stun fade away OHKO.

[@Anonymous-td9fl]

@@SinOfDisaster That had 45 bonus ad damage and 100% attack speed 100% lifesteal ult. Damn i remember how much of an abomination that character was. Even if he built full ap, he still wont lose a 1v1 auto attack fest.

[@_Dingu]

@@SinOfDisaster AP Nunu was also really awful to play against. Back then champs had a lot less mobility, so you blow flash and suddenly you get a blood boiled Nunu running at you with a e + r combo to 100-0 you.

[@mikaeusbznd744]

Sushei AP mid Evelynn was legendary too. I guess you had to be there to compreehend how broken it was in roaming with point click stun while stealth.

[@ikeacloset77]

Your channel really is the definition of Quality over Quantity

[@Grav1ty2735]

It's a real shame these documentaries don't get the support they deserve . You got me into esports and made me see league as something more than just a game , thanks .

[@atamisk999]

As a league boomer these old school documentary make me so happy. Keep up the awesome work.

[@sysfiend]

Nautilus mid : Worlds 2019 Soraka / Sona top : first split of season 10 AP mages as adcs : current Pyke top, mid and jgl : split 1 of season 9 (?) Karma tank top : season 9 Yeah, no offmeta picks/builds since season 1

[@DennisGr]

seeing nRated on the first ranking really gave me flashbacks, he was on our first (german speaking) peergroup of league very back when we all started league, he would often easily beat us in 1v1 customgames, yet none of the whole group would have imagined he would turn pro because frankly nobody expected pro would be a thing. some of the old gang are still active to this day, all spread betweed gold and diamond. oh man, this game was so fun back in my early twenties and it still kinda is, but it's so different from back then...

[@mhakeyhaughton]

13:14 Ooyy - Come 2gether

[@SAGEM1A4Me]

Hey thanks man. Seriously appreciate.

[@F-Tier_Physique]

Remember when Aatrox released and Shushei played him as an ap/hybrid mid going hextech gunblade, guinsoos into full ap. Was a really fun playstyle.

[@hi-i-am-atan]

something i think it's worth commenting on towards that conclusion is how when you take a step back, you realize that many, _many_ of the meta builds and strats that have seen competitively play, including ones that had their time as _meta defining,_ were actually things that could be considered "off-meta" when they were first starting to take root sure, i'm referring to stuff that can be as simple as a champion's build shifting in a mostly lateral fashion, like a marksman going from crit or lethality or vice-versa, something as simple as "this ad champ started building a different type of ad items," but while i think stuff like that is worth keeping in mind, it's hardly the _only_ things i'm referring to. there's also the cases where an item thought to be trash turns out to be wayyyy overtuned, and then we end up in the ardent support meta and all the, uh, "highly mechanical" gameplay that brought, but, again, while that's definitely a case of something that started off-meta, this sort of thing is more frequent than it might feel unless you go out of your way to intentionally think about it like, stick to the ardent meta for a bit. sure, for as much as that previously not-remotely-meta item suddenly _defined_ the meta, it was still a support item being utilized by supports. not exactly the spiciest form of off-meta. but with it came innovation in every other position - the most mild being stuff like cho and jarvan popping back up due to being more effective late than the previously common picks at the time, but there was also the far more wild _jungle ezreal_ that showed up to double up on the champs that could take full advantage of an ardent support. and, of course, there was the advent of the bot carry grabbing relic shield, solely because it made it that much faster and safer to get the support to ardent and that's just one meta. there's loads of well known cases of this sort of thing, like the era of full-tank assassins, the use of funneling strategies, and the on-and-off periods of mages being a common pick as a botlane carry, one of which we're experiencing at this very moment. sure, those end up _being_ the meta, but that is perhaps the real difference between off-meta builds then and off-meta builds now - they get a _lot_ more respect from people nowadays ( at least, aside from the occasional yolo queue superstar that uses every reason they can blame their team that they can find ), and subsequently, an off-meta innovation someone comes up with that looks like it has significant potential - and, really, a lot of things that _don't_ - gets tested out and experimented with by far more players, and in the end, is far more likely to end up _becoming_ meta if that potential is found we're far from the days of ap trists and ap yis, yes, but only because those kinds of overlooked innovations are no longer the underdogs, at least not for long

[@Martin-yh7vi]

My only problem with jungle Ez and some champions with similar off meta roles is that some players don't check if it still works. Leading them to not build the proper itemization and also tilting everyone else because the build is not op as it once used to be due to nerfs.

[@ParkerHazlebeck-wm9ob]

You used many words to not really say much.

[@1davidj]

I'd say the season 4(?) AD/triforce+statikk shiv alistar top at worlds was on a pretty similar tier of dominance and off-meta-ness; it came out of nowhere and pulled nearly 100% pick/ban. I guess it was "meta" because everyone had to learn it for the tournament but it appeared by surprise shortly before the tournament despite being just as good for a long time before

[@narutobutthole]

15:29 wow the Dyrus adc and Doublelift support duo. That is something I wish I could have been there to experience.

[@TheDeathLowthus]

Doublelift also goes AD Blitz with Trinity Force, it was surely enjoyable to watch back then

[@kompletist]

Yeah they like played double brusier in the bot lane. Think they tried playing that against EU in early competitions and got absolutely smashed as EU was already starting to invent the 1/1/2 meta with adc and support. The whole Taric/Blitz botlane thing got run over!

[@PlutoDarknight]

"Mechanical high skill cap" champions my ass. I'd rather take the quality of a well-designed and theorycrafted off-meta build standing the test against the best people on the best meta champions compared to overloaded bullshit that is gated by some looming headspace called "skill ceiling"

[@darkestkhan]

Often there is no skill ceiling to begin with. The game turned into twitchy reflex fps equivalent - no fun left.

[@SinOfDisaster]

can't forget the nerfs/buffs. Hmm this champion is too overloaded I know let's take away 5 atk perfectly nerfed now(Lee Sin). Oh this champion is too strong let's gut it to the point it is now a stun bot and nothing else(AD Malzahar) instead of taking away AD ratio they gutted him. Hmm ADC champions that solo split push at all times get destroyed by Assassins let's nerf all of their items into the ground while buffing ADC items perfect idea. Frankly I think Riot company have 6 spinning dart boards in their office of Ideas. That they blindfold the director spin him around spin the boards around and have him throw at them. Only reason I can see half their shit being put into the game being even remotely reasonable.

[@xersonaxaapk1417]

true

[@darkestkhan]

@@SinOfDisaster I believe that things went really downwards after season 5. Mostly 'cuz too many people were idiots that never built arpen items to deal wioth tanks (I remember people telling me "Sion you are unkillable" when they had not a single armor penetration item - I could as well be playing karthus at that point, with 200+ armor what did they expect to do?)

[@facterrgaming449]

I mean, that’s just not true, champions are created to be gated by how good you are at league fundamentals and learning the individual mechanics and intricacies of champions, if they made every champions kit function around bad players then the game would be a complete fucking shit show, off meta things work fine to a certain level, if you want to be competitive at any reasonable level in solo queue you adhere to what is strong. But there is always exceptions, one tricks hit challenger and GM, on champions that are not meta, don’t blame competitive game design on your inability to execute a champions strengths effectively

[@shaerigir88]

Forgot to mention his trade patterns back in those days were broken with sheen. He could auto you after headbutt hit while you were flying back. So he could actually make good trades vs the enemy mid laner which they couldnt answer back.

[@nicholasfrenken7373]

Yeah man Shushei was so awesome, when he was at the Gamescom 2012 in Cologne, he wore his kennen cosplay and walked around like everyone in the crowed. I recognised his cosplay and asked "sushei?" and he turned around with a big smile in his eyes, his mouth covered by the kennen mask. I was so overwhelmed that I had to take a foto with him, biggest grin in my life i had on that foto. Really nice man.

[@alexanderwizardjar9540]

These documentaries are just top quality man. I'd pay for Netflix just to watch these

[@mario6mso]

I feel like pyke top lane at 2019 msi was something very innovative, as well as the caps vayne mid vs misfits, or talking about misfits the fervor leona against skt

[@Wolta]

This is what you pick and get called a troll by your teammates who will end up feeding solely because you chose an off-meta pick even though you're trying to win.

[@TischRehkitz913]

I love your documentary. It really shines a light on one of the many forgotten personalities of this game. What I wanted to add, even though it doesn't change much and might be becoming more irrelevant every year, is that the game he played decided to remember him with the FNC Gragas skin, which was created in honor of his victory in season 1. And even though as I mentioned there are more players added to the list of those who have a skin created in their honor. Many players who have had much more successful careers and ended up making millions off of this game, have not been honored by the game they played so much. P.S. After watching the documentary I'm convinced they should've made an Alistar skin for him. But I guess because they were made the skns retroactively they probably choose his most played champion (correct me if I'm wrong).

[@reginaldmustardbacon5866]

I'm not sure about back then. But now the players pick the chapions to have their skins made, i think.

[@TischRehkitz913]

Reginald Mustard Bacon TPA got their skins retroactively. And the Summoner‘s Cup, which didn‘t exist at Season 1 Worlds, is depicted in the skins. So I‘m pretty sure they got the skins later. I‘m just not sure what they based their decision, of what Champions to pick for them, on. TPA got their skins based on the composition they played in the last game of the finals, Fnatic did not (I checked)

[@WatchSchoolDays]

Watching videos like this sadden me as it reminds of those "old days" of league. S2 and S3 pro league were the best to watch and the most entertaining and lets not forget how BIG s2 world championship was back then. After it no world champs could capture that grand feeling again (s3 was close and that's it). I think I am slowly becoming a League "boomer".

[@vulekv93]

S2 worlds was the peak League of Legends.

[@Khalolz]

Have you considered reaching out to some of these people you make documentaries on to get their takes, kinda like how you did with Afreeca? Like you said, a lot of 'em faded out of the scene and I think it would be super interesting to hear what they have to say about the game now, their own legacies, or any other insights they might've had/gained since their time in the scene. I don't know how difficult that would be to actually do so maybe it couldn't work, but if you can I think that would be super interesting as well. Either way, great vid as always

[@cyberpunk-2O77]

"for any character to have a 100% ratio on anything was extremely unusual" Samira with a +500% ad ratio ult and 100% vamp on it

[@wastedsoul1024]

Stattik + Ice Bourne Alistar top? Edit: dang it.

[@avidfan3407]

the build that killed Alistar's free aa after w. It was such a fun pick 😥

[@Sermi0n]

I might be wrong on this since its is quite far back in time but one of the reasons Alistar was very hard to play against at that time was that he could Headbutt into a guaranteed Auto-attack. Once they removed that it just naturally disappeared.

[@metalgauntlet3731]

AP Alistar was really popular throughout the games history. Starting right out of Beta from what I remember. Another fun old off meta was sunfire stacking.

[@RawBerserker]

"SeAsOn OnE wOrLdS dOeSn'T cOuNt"

[@junowee5154]

It doesn’t...

[@Rhaalis]

@@junowee5154 tbh Koreans and Chinese weren't great at league at first.

[@Jamarity]

This is so nostalgic.. so many names I haven't heard since I was a young teen

[@anemon6945]

Gbay99: creative builds like these are gone Lethality Sion: 𝘼𝙡𝙡𝙤𝙬 𝙢𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙧𝙤𝙙𝙪𝙘𝙚 𝙢𝙮𝙨𝙚𝙡𝙛

[@Element_Doom]

Shushei is a legend. A hero of LoL. "Nowadays the game isn't really about using odd or creative builds anymore.." But that is exactly what makes a game interesting to begin with. Sure, you might see some One trick doing fine in high elo, but you won't see them winning in tournaments. Innovators are not getting rewarded like they used to be.

[@DarthArtokV]

21:25 last guy at the table is Kikis and the first is Arquel whos doing pretty ok nowadays being a big streamer

[@Mnykyu]

I think back in s3, his team Dragonborns classied to LCS, with him going Vi Mid (she was the new champ back then i think). Also the adc on that team was and amazing Draven main. That lcs split was crazy, the spanish team had a adc player who mained Kennen on that role and they have to permaban it o he will carry the game pretty much solo.

[@whynotsplash]

These docs give me chills. The environment you create is so great. Congratulations man! Loved it

[@Ketroc]

As someone who doesn't play LoL, professional casts are impossible to follow. This video however was perfect for me. The abilities were explained so the action made sense.

[@billnyetherussianspy7070]

Whenever I see videos like theses I pick up league again, hoping to play the game which as far as I remember, was the most fun I’ve had gaming. Then I get the average league teammate and delete it again.

[@ScutMonkey]

I vividly remember watching the play starting out at 18:20 of this video. It's one of my all time favorite League plays by anyone. I LOVED Shushei.

[@Justjustinp]

Watching this at the start of season 11. It seems the item changes have brought back a lot of theory crafting and weird strategies. Sure, it's nothing like back then, but it makes me appreciate off meta strats.

[@elliottw5659]

As a support Ali main who just got into the game fairly recently, it's nice to see that the moo cow had some big impact back in the day

[@tehawsumninja]

Last time I was this early, PCGamer was still plagiarizing Gbay99

[@mihajlostojanovski9496]

I really like your shorter docs! Your style of narration and the perfect length of the videos are great! I love it!

[@maretan1]

takes me back a few years when we had a small community on EUW for off-meta builds, discussions and premade games. lovely to play AP mf mid, nami adc or other things like that. basically whatever comes to mind. Still really enjoyable to play off-meta stuff right now, though i kinda miss that group for its crazy ideas

[@CallMeMebe]

you should have mentioned that he has his own skin in game to be remembered by. The Fnatic Gragas skin is basically because gragas was one of his iconic champions during the tournament

[@harlyroe1015]

Amazing gbay !!! you deserve so much recognition for the quality of your documentrys !!

[@toountrue.211]

Gbay my dude.... i have been some time (years) without watching your channel. I did NOT expect you to become the best and most entertaining league documentary channel out there. Keep it up, this is fucking amazing. You found your calling.

[@Omgiamsotriggered]

I remember I used to main gragas mid back in s2/s3, climbed to 1800 elo from 1200. His Q used to reduce attack speed(not sure if it does anymore), and the damage was instant it wasnt a loading one like now so it was easy to poke. You also didnt have 200 years champions back then so he was a solid and consistent pick in mid. I sometimes now see him getting played mid but very rare since there are much better champs.

[@fowlnuke]

Back then it was also possible for Ali to get an auto attack in after a regular headbutt while the enemy was flying away from you. You could proc lich bane instantly without any counterplay. You didn't even need to pulverize.

[@timohornecke3041]

I remember Shusheis name. It is ONLY name sport-person I know from watching their games (I know a few footballers names ofc. but not because I watch football, but because they are in the media all day. In fact I hate watching sports, be it e-sports or regular sports). It was the one and only time I was willing to watch e-sports and had fun with it. His gragas plays were so great. He was an awesome player, entertaining to watch like no other.

[@tehnoobestworld]

Dyrus, QT, Scara, Aphromoo, Madlyfe, Insect, those players were always inspirational to me

[@baumundallesandere]

I saw that flash over the nexus wall vs EPIK live and still replay it every once in a while in my head. Shushei really was the first League of Legends legend.

[@farhanalsyafiq7508]

This reminds me of last year dota2 TI a player name ANA from OG use a full on support hero as a heavy carry... and it was glorious

[@MooShaka89]

Man your videos hit in the feels so hard with these old tourny videos

[@LTJ]

I literally have NO interest in LOL and clicked this vid by mistake...and I'm glad I did! Great story, fantastic production values and an outstanding vid! Thanks guys!

[@7unknown3]

This hits me right in the feels. Where the new gen never heard his name.

[@heiter_bis_pingelig2877]

That struck right to heart GBay, I loved Sushei in the first Worlds. He was a fun player to watch and soo relaxed. Watching the robot that is Faker kill a keyboard and players next to it is just not fun, it is precise and well execuded, but it is far from entertaining if you ask me. Pure skill is impressive, but not entertaining. So thanks for digging up this legend of the past!

[@turkeyguy0]

xPeke: Sorry guys, Gotta chase some ladies... Tell them my flight was delayed.

[@sumonok7258]

Dude, honestly I used to not like you for some reason. But this content you are doing lately is Holy SHIT. Probably the best content of League in youtube right now. Like seriously. Someone give this guy money so he can do amazing docs with pro editing.

[@e2Usan]

Amazing video Gbay. I am very glad that you havent lost your spirit of making videos for LoL. Great script, great commentary, great editing. Overall a very very nice video! I enjoyed every second of it. Good job!

[@bamboozledbob3298]

This must be what Elrond feels like when people talk about the war of the last alliance.

[@CoffeeSipper555]

The old way was more responsive so you could cast Q at any point during the E and screw up , i was pulling it off 99% of the times with 65 ping , when they changed it it actually felt harder because precision was not the important factor anymore, you had to just buffer Q

[@Ginger_Chin]

Dude for counter-strike 1.6 back in the way, the first prize at the last tournament i attended was a hard drive.

[@ThatSomGuy]

I can't believe Gbay is making a documentary on AP Alistar.... Man I've been playing league for awhile. I guess I love the game :(

[@renektop6820]

Another interesting build i remember seeing in a game (i dont remember which teams or tournament it was on) but it was trinity statik alistar top, he could aa after headbutting the enemy laner and that scaled in a pretty consistent (and trolly) way to bully the enemy

[@The4Tifier]

I can still imagine builds and plays like this coming up again in the future. Remember Capps picking a Vayne Midlane into Galeo? Or the Ashe and Support Miss Fortune duo bot against Zyra support? Or how FunPlus Phoenix won Worlds 2019 for playing so unconventionally? Pros are so used to playing against META builds and heroes that mixing it up once in awhile could actually work out for teams.

[@megalul4141]

He will be cherished because this is so far the only world championship the west has and will probably ever have (unless G2...)

[@maschiroib.1692]

Music adds to the nostalgia... Man, I'm old. GBay99 at it again! Great stuff.

[@InfiniteDrillWorks]

This moment at 18:20. THIS is the moment that made me pick up Ali as my first ever main in league.

[@joshuasmith4643]

I miss the days of season 1 and 2, so many items, off meta plays and builds, good time, good times.

[@lorenzsabbaer7725]

man those were the days back then....just epic, watched the whole tournament, never will forget it!

[@jaysonjamesguerta8510]

seeing those videos i miss LoL when I first played it.. thats like 2010 if Im not mistaken.. those are fun moments back when league is simple