The Official Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Meta

Wave 6 of the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass has finally released. Assuming there will be no more changes made to the game, we now know the OFFICIAL Mario Kart 8 Deluxe meta. I'll break that down in this video, on top of discussing bagging! Is it dead? Is it still lame? Keep watching to find out!
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[@jamesvaden3703]

As far as bagging, Making it more strategic is actually better in my opinion. I actually enjoy frontrunning just because I like to drive fast. To know that it’s actually more viable than before, I’m actually happy about that 👍🏽

[@Htiy]

Me too. Its a racing game after all lol

[@yamagrow420]

It took me a while to figure out why lap 1 was first place, lap 2 first place, last lap loser…. It’s a welcome change for me as well.

[@Mike-Al]

I said this in a few othe replies but casuals who never touch this game in lounge or high VR are extremely misinformed on what bagging actually is. The change doesn't really matter either way, bagging will ALWAYS be secondary/Plan B to running. Except on a select few tracks.

[@65435]

Its not only a racing game its also a strategie game bagging made more strategie and if you got mariokarted you acctually had a chance to come back

[@gumbitoicic9977]

​@65435 Well yes, but it's core is racing and everyone waiting at the beginning isn't that fun and it's just luck and no skill sometimes

[@Cayetano.]

Thank you JPG for caring about us inside drift mains

[@EnheTook50Benadryl]

imagine using inside drift cringe

[@stanleyching]

errrrrm

[@lolpig609]

i agree yoshi bike is w

[@MirageIslander]

@@EnheTook50Benadryl but its fun D:

[@thegreatgoosegod726]

​@@EnheTook50Benadrylwhy might that be

[@pirachou]

Some people have already pointed that out, but the cat cruiser has 2 points of invicibility more that the teddy buggy. So its technicaly better, except that its a kart and not an ATV.

[@blank_ivysaur]

The kart vs atv argument has never been actually verified by any real metric so I wouldn’t worry about that. The hitbox size is real but it’s almost certainly worth the i frames you gain.

[@anonyme4881]

There are no differenve between kart and ATV exept the fact that character use their bike suit on them Also Teddy Buggy got a way smaller hitbox than catcruiser so thats why it has less i-frame And smaller hitbox is better not only to dodge the item but it also helps in certain shortcut because you are smaller Its kinda rare that I-frame matters

[@geo3317]

​@@anonyme4881Hitboxes don't actually matter and nobody will convince me otherwise. You can use the smallest hitbox build and still get absolutely obliterated by items, believe me I know from many experiences.

[@anonyme4881]

@@geo3317 if hitbox never mattered at all every best mk8 player wouldnt use teddy buggy since it has 2 less i-frame than cat cruiser, making you more immune to item...... Just look at mk8 tournament, and its true for nearly all kart. Its not about item, its about taking shortcut and turn while taking the shortest path which tons of time involve getting extremly close to wall Also some shortcut are way easier with small hitbox like the mushroom gorge turn skip where you can easely get stuck and fall with a big kart

[@Skailed]

i really like the fact that they nerfed bagging, but not to the extent of always getting a banana in 10th place even if youre not bagging. in my opinion, this is the perfect mix of the two.

[@pianowarrior3813]

3:53 That transition from Comet to Yoshi Bike was clean 👏🏻

[@Shortcat321]

I enjoyed this video so I gave it a like and subscribe 👍🔥 I'd much rather see a room of yoshi teddy buggy than waluigi wiggler!

[@minovies]

Omg hi shortcat

[@cheerioz1848]

waluigi wiggler is like an authoritarian ruler and yoshi teddy buggy is a colorful and more democratic authoritarian ruler

[@thegamer-xb7cn]

Honestly it'd be insanely funny to stumble across a room of Yoshi Yoshi(bike)s

[@pnut3844able]

Well well well, look who it is. I told you the pipe frame was viable and that acceleration was the most important stat 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Shortcat321]

@@pnut3844able Hi pnutable!!! big fan

[@Pixelcraftian]

I'm glad that Mii's and Mario are good in the game, that way I can pick my favourite character without getting last every race lol. Cool video :D

[@Dyscordy]

The reason why i perefer the alternative combos (my favorite being the pipe frame) is because i get SICK of seing yoshi teddy online

[@WillaRDash04]

You're not the only one. I'm getting sick of it too. I barely watch JPGiviner's videos, because he uses the same character and the same vehicle combo in almost every single competitive Mario Kart video.

[@OtisCluck]

@@WillaRDash04same, it also doesn’t help that he pushes the whole “you *have* to use this specific combo or you lose” mentality, which just makes me think that using anything else will cause you to get targeted by the rest of the room and forced to lose for not following the hivemind

[@WillaRDash04]

@@OtisCluck That's right. Besides, I lose more with Yoshi teddybuggy/cat-cruiser than with Rosalina cat-cruiser. Now it's like JPGiviner told me a lie about the best combo. Shortcat always say that we should play with our favorite character, because they're all fine and able to win. If we lose with our favorite, it means we play badly or had bad luck in the race. Shortcat won't say that we lose by the character which we use.

[@yurilia]

I just wanna put this out there. The Cat Cruiser is the exact same thing as the Teddybuggy except it has higher invincibility. So the Cat Cruiser is actually better.

[@kaizoisevil]

I think the meta favors smaller hit boxes

[@yurilia]

@@kaizoisevil then that should probably be mentioned in the video

[@dantemustdie00]

Cat Cruiser is the same? Might switch to that then for when I'm maining Pauline, cause I hate the look of the Teddy bear. That's the problem with these Meta build vehicle parts, they look unattractive, I really wished we gotten kart parts from Tour

[@yurilia]

@@dantemustdie00 Yeah, that's why i prefer Peachette, City Tripper, Rollers, Peach Parasol. It's very similar to Yoshi Teddybuggy but it looks much better.

[@alvarsvensson]

Very good and informative video, good to know that Yoshi isn't the only viable character!

[@theaclipseshow570]

I loved inside drift in MKWII and they came back in this game and they are pretty good. Thanks JPG for telling us this. I can play MK8DX with inside drifting bikes and won't lost "that" many races.

[@dakotahernandez9511]

inside drift does pretty well on some tracks. i remember the paris promenade wr was yoshi bike for a while

[@theaclipseshow570]

I used to use the Yoshi Bike, the Jet Bike and the Sport Bike. I never stopped using them until I realized Yoshi Teddybuggy was the best combo in the game.

[@williamsalva4740]

Funky Kong/Jet Bike are going to have new WRs on at least a couple of tracks now.

[@theaclipseshow570]

I agree

[@banditgarfw2504]

I'd argue that the Rosalina, Waluigi, Bowser, and Wario weight classes still have their advantages right now. On tracks that favour speed like Moonview or bagging like Dry Dry Desert they will pull ahead of the Medium characters. Also shoutouts to the Baby Mario class for having to highest MT stat while losing the least amount of speed for it (still 4, yeesh).

[@kaizoisevil]

Worth noting that the speed of your mini turbo boost is dependent on both the speed stat and the mini turbo stat. So by going with Yoshi, you lose 1 mini turbo, but gain 4 speed, and thus get better mini turbo boosts.

[@williamsalva4740]

Yeah, Morton and Funky Kong can be big world record characters on the game.

[@Tnt_shadow]

Note cat cruiser does have more invincibility then teddy buggy

[@SwiftieLuma]

The fact that they lowkey made Peachette meta makes me so happy, its a nice dig to all those people hating on her inclusion, no wonder im seeing her online a lot lately compared to Diddy, Funky or Pauline.

[@YaddleGaming]

You are wrong, the clear best character is Funky Kong. Your style alone will carry you to victory

[@OtisCluck]

Funky Gang rise up!

[@jossuecabrera8611]

I'm a bit disappointed that the meta hasn't changed the meta tires or glider much, so we're basically stuck with the same tires and gliders for a decade and for more, but I don't mind anymore. I'm glad that at least we got a better looking combo than waluigi wiggler.

[@castform7]

I actually really like the place the meta is in. I know this is a super casual mindset but I just like the look of Yoshi Teddybuggy so much more plus the variety in colours really makes races never feel like the same character is there. As for bagging, I'm just glad frontrunning isn't mostly an invalid way to play now. I knew bagging wouldn't be completely gone and that staying behind would still be the best strat for tracks like Cheese Land and Dry Dry Desert, there is more risk involved now which I think is a good place to have it.

[@mudfishy]

Completely agree, you have 3 characters with the same stats along with 8 colors of Yoshi and 8 colors of birdo, just makes it more diverse and fun.

[@VyNguyen-dq4nw]

@@mudfishy 5*

[@JosepiThe13th]

It is cool to have all these different options to pick from thanks to Yoshi and Birdo.

[@FourFinger.]

erm actually the cat cruiser has more invincibility than teddy (teddy is still better because idk)

[@slowbrodragon6951]

I love it! My favourite character is the best! Peachette is super cute! I LOVE her! I'm so glad they added her 👸🥰

[@DrWeezy69]

For a person that is at 16000 VR I can say that this is reliable but I choose not to listen to it. I use funky Kong , flame rider and rollers for stats and Mario kart wii memories.

[@gabrielboudjema4076]

4:20 what wow I, never seen you being so agressive without being agressive 💀

[@ToozLive]

Could you maybe do a video going over the most meta relevant combo for each character?

[@benjaymean58]

THISSSS ^

[@WillaRDash04]

@@benjaymean58 this isn't. He made only for the medium weight class.

[@Yoshi21697]

It’s going to be one of these combos mentioned in this video for any character anyway so I don’t see the point of a video like that

[@AlexB-W33gee]

I think due to the slight mini turbo difference of the ink-striker and teddy buggy, the ink-striker should be the better combo due to its higher speed.

[@kaizoisevil]

It is indeed slightly better but requires more skill to master.

[@JustYosh1]

Although it has 0.25 more speed. It has 0.25 less mini turbo along with less acceleration

[@JustYosh1]

Not to forget inkstriker is an atv so it can take as clean lines as the teddybuggy can

[@AlexB-W33gee]

@@JustYosh1 teddy buggy is also a atv

[@blank_ivysaur]

@@JustYosh1this is not a real thing. There’s never been any evidence to suggest atvs and Karts handle differently outside of the inconsistencies of the mushroom wheelie that atvs can have

[@alexherreria3362]

Thanks JPG! Are you going to address the slight meta change between Cat cruiser and Teddy buggy? Cat got a slight buff to invincibility. But teddy still “feels” way better.

[@Yoshi21697]

Teddy is better cuz of smaller hitbox and I frames are irrelevant

[@sand220]

I like what they did with bagging. I think it is a legit strategy that should stay viable and I enjoy doing it myself sometimes, however they were right to nerf it because before it felt like you could do it mindlessly. Making it harder to chain a lot of power items should make bagging a bit more skillful

[@TipOfTheSauce]

An inside drift build that I’ve been seeing more and more is: Rosalina, Comet, GLA Tires, and Cloud Glider… From what I know, this is b/c mini turbo isn’t as critical for inside drift. It’s still the most important stat, but others are still very important, so it isn’t as wise to fully min max. Something that people might not know is that for inside drift, driving lines > mini turbos. If you give up a perfect line to get an ultra, that would be considered a mistake. Compared to the Yoshi meta build, you loose some mini turbo and acceleration in exchange for: significantly more speed, slightly more traction, and over double the weight and invincibility. That being said, the mini turbo stat is still very high and you will be getting ultras left and right. Same thing with acceleration, it’s still very good.

[@sawyermccall2370]

I actually still want bagging to be viable, I just want it to be much more strategic and the fact that now there is no guarentee to get a bullet or something it turns bagging into something you do only when you get commode, which is how I feel it should be

[@boo1_gaming927]

Sandbagging isn't necessarily bad, but when you have to go through the row of item boxes multiple times just to get power items and essentially stall the race, that's where I have a problem. You can sandbag, but you also have to race at the same time, and with what Nintendo has implemented in the latest patch, I think that will encourage drivers to not ultra sandbag. The only way to get rid of sandbagging is if you only make maps that are frontrunning maps, make the items less powerful, or you incentivize drivers to front run the race, like rewarding points each lap. I also think each vehicle should have its strengths and weaknesses. Have different classes of vehicles. I know they tried doing this in MKWii, but I think having something like inside drift with not a lot of straightaway speed would be a good balance. Inside drift can be viable on curvy tracks, but not on tracks with a lot of straights. A kart with its speed will have an advantage with straighter maps, but takes corners wider. That's probably how Nintendo should have handled MKWii in the first place, but I digress. Mario Kart typically sees 1, maybe 2 combos really dominate the meta, but I think it should be more than that, given how many vehicle combinations there are.

[@the_champ_101]

Great Video JPG! Even though the Cat Cruiser has more invincibility than the Teddy Buggy in the most recent patch, I would still agree that Yoshi on the Teddy Buggy is the way to go!

[@diegobanos6190]

Great video as always! Question: how much viable is the wiggler atv now? It got some invincibility buffs in wave 6

[@onurayhan1706]

Pro Tip: If you play black yoshi you get an extra speed boost

[@andreavomiero9023]

It would be nice if you'll do some videos where you find the best combonation for non-meta characters

[@SlimeBlueMS]

I kinda hate how out of the thousands of combinations, only ONE of them is actually worth using lol. That's called horrible game balance

[@patatovky]

Giving my opinion here. Almost any combo can be good or even great but, for me, the best combo in the moment for 150cc is no doubth Yoshi, Teddy Buggy/Cat Cruiser, Roller Tires and Cloud Glider/Paper Glider and for 200cc since you dont want Speed but rather Mini-Turbo, Acceleration and Handling, the best combo Is Dry-Bone(r), Mr. Scooty, Roller Tires and Cloud/Paper Glider. The 200cc one has almost the same Accel, Handling AND Mini-Turbo as the combos with the best respective stats whitch is INSANE cause is almost like 3 max stats that are also the exact stats you want! Plus it gets a bonus cause yk, Dry-Bone(r) supremacy

[@SpookerstheSpoo]

I would love to see a video from you going over every single character in the game and what the best kart/tire/glider combo for them is.

[@ThatCatLee]

I love how yoshi teddy bear is the best but there are still so many combos which are viable (I still wish Diddy Kong was added to one of the best classes like maybe he could have had Kamek stats but instead he's just Yoshi but with less speed but he's so cool so I don't care if he's not the best) my favorite vehicle is the City Tripper lol it's really cool

[@kankanquentin]

Yoshi was my favourite character as a kid, him being the meta makes me shed a tear, proud of ya buddy

[@ItsManu001]

I'd argue that Rosalina's weight class (Rosalina, Pauline, King Boo, Link) is better than all the midweights (including Yoshi's class) for certain maps with less tight turns and more boost panels, and it's also better for bagging. You lose 0.5 miniturbo to get an equivalent amount of extra speed. You also lose 0.5 acceleration but it's not very important and it's kinda compensated by that +0.75 invincibility (that reduces your chance of being Mario Karted). Worse handling by 0.5, but if you're a good driver you will barely feel the difference, also you have that +0.75 weight to push your opponents and to prevent them from messing up your lines (since most players use midweights). Overall, I think Rosalina's weight class requires more skill but it can definitely keep up with the midweights, if not even be better in the situations I previously described. Other than that, I think your video was well done and gave a great overview. As for bagging, I'm personally happy with the state it's in now and don't think it needs another nerf. Before the changes, bagging was already a strategy that required more skill than frontrunning (generally). Now the skill floor has been increased (and this will be felt especially at a not particularly competitive level), but it can certainly give exceptional results if you know what you are doing. I think frontrunning and bagging are both two valid strategies... and they actually complement each other since to really get the best results you have to be able to adopt one or the other strategy depending on the map and situation you find yourself in, and quickly switch between one and the other if necessary.

[@goldberserk7425]

This was very informational, thank you very much, perhaps could you do a tutorial on how to drive the new DLC tracks, it would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work!

[@Fubbster]

I dont know why the popular opinion is anti-bagging. I think bagging provides a well needed variety to gameplay instead of front running every race which might as well be time trials. I like the skill ceiling of maximizing every power item you do or don't get. Even in 12th place it's good fun to blast through the course at speeds otherwise not possible and I think it's a good thing to allow players the choice to play in this way if they want to.

[@Mike-Al]

Casuals who never touch this game in lounge or high VR are extremely misinformed on what bagging actually is yet circlejerk each other. The change doesn't really matter either way, bagging will ALWAYS be secondary/a Plan B to running. Except on a select few tracks.

[@farbencut]

If you are playing online, PLEASE just choose a combo you think looks cool or with your favourite character instead of the meta. Unless your combo is literally the worst one (or the second worst one) you will still be able to get first fairly often, if you are skilled. And if you are lacking that skill, playing the meta won’t change that. While in competitive tournaments, the meta does matter, in your average online match, you probably won’t go up against professionals. By not playing the meta online, you can help get more variety into lobbies, making the races more fun for everyone. And even if you *must* play meta, just don’t go Yoshi + Teddy Buggy, but maybe Birdo + Cat Cruiser. Still the same stats!

[@WillaRDash04]

Gecko still wins in competitive Mario kart tournaments with non-meta characters.

[@KoopaTroopaBeachFan4879]

he plays mario kart but with a twist 🗿 @@WillaRDash04

[@Danny328DT]

The vehicles aren't the issues, the lag trailing, shells doing absolutely nothing to others, and the unpredictable item boxes are annoying. I don't know how anyone enjoys worldwide. You literally get hit by 5 items which you don't even see on your screen most of the time.

[@OtisCluck]

Funky Gang rise up

[@WillaRDash04]

@@KoopaTroopaBeachFan4879 what I mentioned was not just a twist. It were some road to ruby 2 videos.

[@XGamer123]

I never knew that Yoshi Bike and Comet also had the same stats as Teddybuggy, so thanks for giving us inside drift mains some love.

[@Majorox]

I layed down in bed to chill for a bit. Pulled up youtube and saw this. Imediatly got out of bed to try a yoshi build out lmao. I was rockin waluigi up until now. My brother and his wife got me into this recently, so im still new to all of these BIG changes since mario kart 64 haha. Apreciate the video brother

[@arandomguy3630]

Funky Kong Gang, Rise Up🔥🔥🔥

[@OtisCluck]

Funky Gang!

[@coderaccoon6061]

I'd love to see you do a video on all the best kart combos for every character due to the final eave being out and for those who don't wanna use the meta characters

[@DJULTRA-uk3nr]

Very happy to see this. It's great to know the meta! Even if I won't follow it cause I don't really play online anyway.

[@CeoOfBettt]

Most of the time I also use builds I like so I also throw in pieces like the land ship, Koopa clown, city tripper, Mach 8, silver arrow, sponge tires, and leaf tires on top of all the meta build and still find success online weather that’s worldwide or sometimes even in competitive

[@TTV_DGC]

In my opinion, I think that the game with bagging and front running was as fine as it was!

[@Mike-Al]

The change doesn't really matter either way, bagging will ALWAYS be secondary/a Plan B to running. Except on a select few tracks. Casuals who never touch this game in lounge or high VR are extremely misinformed on what bagging actually is

[@logan6791]

@@Mike-AlThe only issue I have with it is literally some tracks are win or lose based on bagging. Even without a shock on a track like Cheese-land no matter how big your lead is you still manage to fall behind. I feel like the distance based items should cap at a certain distance so people aren’t intentionally slowing down. The only issue with that is everyone is so close together than 1 blue shell can easily ruin your race. In a perfect world better driving would mean better results but currently even with the bagging nerf some tracks will never escape that.

[@AzureSwiper]

No, play the game as an actual racing game.

[@Mike-Al]

@@AzureSwiper The backseat gaming is strong with this one 🥱

[@skilledissue.]

I’ve been a yoshi main since I started playing the game (about 5 years ago now, damn) and it’s really nice to see my boy finally getting some recognition

[@whysakurai3179]

You can save a shroom to get back up to speed while getting 2 power items

[@ferroop]

Jpg i have a question for you if mario kart 9 comes out you solo play the new Mario kart or rest in Mario kart 8 deluxe?

[@quinnhavel7638]

Tanooki Mario, Inkling Boy, and Villager Male are actually BETTER than Yoshi, Peach, Peachette, Daisy, and Birdo. Also, the Cat Cruiser is better than the Teddy Buggy. The thing is, traction stat is actually divided into two separate stats in the game: On-Road Traction and Off-Road Traction. Tanooki Mario, Inking Boy and Villager Male all have 7 On-Road Traction and 1 Off-Road Traction while Yoshi, Peach, Peachette, Daisy, and Birdo all have only 3 On-Road Traction and 3 Off-Road Traction. So While the Yoshi class has slightly better Off-Road Traction, the Tanooki Mario class has significantly better On-Road Traction and also has a better weight stat. As for the Cat Cruiser, it has all the same stats as the Teddy Buggy except for Invincibility Frames, which the Cat Cruiser has a stat of three vs the Teddy Buggy's 1. This means that the Cat Cruiser is objectively better. That being said, the only reason why almost everyone uses the Yoshi stat class, specifically Yoshi himself, with the Teddy Buggy is because it's what all the KZbinrs say to use.

[@dewey9499]

I love how I used the meta before anyone else I’ve used the bearington wagon when the game came out on wii u and everyone is just now realizing how could that kart is

[@OtisCluck]

“If you wanna win, only use this specific combo” don’t care, Funky Gang rise up

[@maxdeltaco6537]

F that I’m playing as funky Kong and you can’t stop me

[@babydaisy.]

they pretty much abandoned the lightweights 😢

[@Teknanam]

It truly is a shame. I'll miss the baby Time Trial metas.

[@dantemustdie00]

Yeah every DLC character has been medium or heavy

[@emiliano5113]

for a brief period the best combo was mario with standard kart, gla tires and standard glider and i kinda wish it was still like that cause it was the funniest shit to beat everyone online with the most basic set. But as a Yoshi main i'm also happy that he's now meta material

[@blank_ivysaur]

That was a meme combo. It was still worse than the teddy buggy and inkstrike combos but it was at least viable.

[@seivax_mkw6756]

Great Video! Love how the meta changed.

[@Sparky-uz4rj]

Is there a graph or something thats up to date on all the characters/Karts/wheels/gliders stats? please and TY!

[@ChonkyToad]

Until i die, I will only use Wiggler on the Wiggler. With also the added bonus of if their is a wiggler on the track, you instantly get a good placing.

[@Jolts99]

I use Shy guy/Dry Bones (Alternating) With rollers, Cloud, and either Mr. Scooty or Biddybuggy. Pretty good speed, amazing acceleration, and amazing Mini Turbo. I do sometimes use Yoshi Teddy though

[@Iso_SSB]

You should do a “evolution of the Mario Kart Meta” video

[@JK2002-]

It's pretty good that Nintendo chose to make the Middle-Weights the best, because that means Heavys and Light Chars are more viable in comparison. Back then when the Heavys dominated Mario Kart 8, Middleweights were okay and Lightweights were trash. So it's in the middle of those 3

[@Doot1295]

The cat cruiser is actually the best because it has more invincibility than teddy

[@mr.sparrow2368]

My combo is Kamek, Streetle, Rollers and Cloud. I like my cute wizard. I like my beetle car. Yeah, I'm not optimal - but i look fly as hell!

[@gmdrye755]

I noticed that in the intro he used Morton on the standard bike which was considered the best before 2019 when everyone switched to waluwiggler

[@Cartoonicus]

Does the invincibility stat count as far as colliding with/being hit by other players?

[@sofiepalsson7628]

I think that your right with that you should go with higher mini turbo.

[@JuhMall01]

3:53 very smooth transition

[@technodoge_draws]

So is the waluigi wigglier nerf only affected when you get the booster pack, or is it in general? I would like to know because I have Mario kart but not the dlc and it would help understand what’s good now.

[@gamecubeplayer]

all of the balance patches have been free

[@TRWario]

This is truly a The Official Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Meta moment

[@BlaximilianD00d]

Glad to see the pipe frame getting some respect.

[@thehotdogking7734]

Thx but I still wanna know if kamek, funky Kong, and diddy Kong are good.

[@pokejose1634]

As an all time Yoshi main, I miss the all Waluigi meta I hated so much.

[@Avatar-fc2qi]

I would say that Tanooki Mario/Inkling Boy/Male Villager + pipe frame is the best combo. It has the same ground speed, weight, and mini-turbo as Yoshi + Teddy Buggy but is superior in terms of almost every other stat. The only stats where Yoshi + Teddy buggy exceeds it are air speed, anti-gravity speed, air handling, and traction. Air speed and air handling aren't super important since you don't do a lot of gliding on most tracks. The importance of anti-gravity speed depends very heavily on the track, but I believe the majority of tracks don't have huge amounts of anti-gravity. And traction is by far the least important stat IMO since it has literally no effect except on off-road.

[@zurimondesir2995]

I miss waluigi wiggler, speed traction,mini turbo, smaller hit box and waluigi my favorite character

[@davidng2336]

W video! Now to dive into the meta!

[@ho_oh188]

I guess you could you the wild wiggler since it got a boost in i-frames.

[@Astrotoydle]

Well at least I know how and what to use the only problem is I thought what's Tanuki car would for sure be on this list but it's not

[@hayd23043]

I like using inkling boy with inkstriker and roller tires, my favorite weapon class in splatoon is roller

[@Charlie-hv3dh]

Amazing video as always!

[@Flumpty_bumpty_egg]

I hope this works, getting 3 stars on every Grand Prix drove me (no pun attended) to using smart steering

[@RealSilGaming]

"everyone you're playing against SUCKS" JPGiviner really just roasted 80% of the entire online playerbase

[@WillaRDash04]

He definitely did

[@RubikOwl]

I love that my love of yoshi got me so close to the optimal load out lol

[@dustinduzgames1276]

The cat cruiser has the same stats as the teddy buggy but it didn't get the same invincibility Nerf

[@SuperMarioBrosSMB_]

The meta is cool in all but when comes to characters I don't use Yoshi. Why? Because he's not my cup of tea and I rather go as the characters I'm comfortable with like Metal Mario. But when it comes to the karts, I stick with meta.

[@evantm2588]

I've tried making diddy viable and he's fun but his weight stat is so atrocious online that im gonna return to my Kamek teddy buggy combo

[@Hamfast087]

I think it would be cool if you made a video about the best combos for every character, mostly for the people who want to play their favourite characters rather then the meta (definitely not because I want funky kong to be good ;) )

[@OtisCluck]

Funky Gang!

[@WillaRDash04]

It's true he should. Not everyone's favorite character is in the medium weight class. Heavyweights and lightweights must be viable as well.

[@autismandgaming4532]

You forgot that the Meta in Wii U Mario Kart 8 was Morton, Blue Falcon, Cuber Slick, Gold Glider

[@Blizzard877]

I love how this was my old main

[@joshkittrell914]

The meta won’t stop me from using what I like. To me being good at a game means using what you’re comfortable with to win. If you play a game but you only do what other people do because it’s most effective, then are you really playing the game?

[@WillaRDash04]

That's right. Rosalina Teddybuggy/Cat-cruiser is comfortable for me to win/survive. Yoshi Teddybuggy/Cat-cruiser sucks and is a good option to lose for me.

[@blank_ivysaur]

the gameplay matters more than the affects of your character to most people. If you concern yourself with aesthetics and can’t adapt to how the game is at a base level then you’re not really that into the game. It’s fine to play a game for reasons other than just winning but I find a lot of people get disillusioned with a game because they aren’t honest with their intentions. If someone wants to play a game to win in a way they find fun then that’s ok but you should fully acknowledge that you aren’t playing to win.

[@jamesvaden3703]

I’ve never had any doubt in my mind that Yoshi Teddy Buggy is the king of the meta. I’ve just enjoyed using Medium Mii Teddy Buggy Rollers so much since the Wave 4 balance patch that I never stopped using him and I’ve performed just as well. I’m fully aware that I’m not on the best combo but I’m fully satisfied with Medium Mii. He’s been the most enjoyable to use for me so I can’t complain 👍🏽

[@lunchtreyy]

You really aren't losing much, it's VERY slight differences since you're still using the meta build, just with a teeny bit less MT and a bit more speed.

[@jamesvaden3703]

@@lunchtreyy Exactly. The differences are so slight it’s not even noticeable. It’s basically a hybrid of Yoshi Inkstriker. Only difference is more handling, more air speed and slightly less antigravity speed

[@user-os9zc8co5m]

Hot take, but I actually liked the old meta better then the new one. I am the kind of person that likes a combo to look good. Not saying that Waluigi wiggler was easy to look at, but it was at least a bit funny. Waluigi being probably the most meme character on the roster and him riding around on a wiggler had some comedic value. Yoshi teddybugy just don't look that great and has nothing else going for it. I know I will have to use it eventually when I hit a high enough VR were that extra stat boost is critical, but I do wish we got something else.

[@Bricks_3]

As a inside drift bike fan and yoshi fan, I'm really excited by these updates :)

[@intel_coar6844]

I play Luigi and while I’ve always wanted to use good kart combos I hate the silly looking ones. Hearing that the pipe frame is viable makes me really wanna use Luigi, pipe frame, GLA tires, parachute

[@austinbeaver94]

Any opinions on the City Tripper? I hear it was the same as the Pipe Frame but don’t know if that’s the case

[@banditgarfw2504]

They're the same, the main advantage they have is in their handling stats compared to Teddy.

[@TwistingMoonOwO]

You know how good it feels to have my stubbornly favorite characters and bikes go from dog tier to top tier

[@heitorprevitalli3182]

I'd like to know about the City Tripper. I've seen you comment about it before and even using it with Kamek on some competitive videos. How come it's not a viable frame anymore?

[@MirageIslander]

it is viable

[@jamesvaden3703]

It has the same stats as Pipe Frame so it’s definitely a viable option 👍🏽 The advantages aren’t quite significant with its weakest stats being the air and antigravity speed. But its still a well rounded combo nonetheless 👍🏽

[@superfreddybrosespanol6781]

Yep! I'm already getting tired of seeing Yoshi everywhere I'm starting to miss Waluigi. Or even better, Make Funky Kong the new meta so we have Mario Kart Wii on the Switch!

[@crestofhonor2349]

I think bagging might be my least favorite part about the game and I wish it was gone. It's nice Nintendo at least tried to get rid of it, even if it failed