The One with Brené Brown | A Bit of Optimism with Simon Sinek: Episode 27

[@aeschlimanunlimited5591]

I appreciate how well they disagree. They say it immediately and it results in surprise, laughter, and actual interest to learn what/why. They circle around and try to understand each other's viewpoint, and even if they still disagree, they move to the next topic and carry on a delightful conversation. This was a treat to listen to. I'd love to model this in my own conversations and disagreements.

[@tinacunningham7279]

Loved this! I enjoyed theback and forth of ideas. I learned so much from listening to the two thought processes. Thank you!

[@johnlombardo7816]

the way a conversation should be.. go figure.. today people can't even be told they are a little wrong in any aspect of what they say or do.. smh so sad.. i love when someone actually tells me i they disagree.. why is that frowned upon today?

[@kirkgrant7380]

Dear Simon, I am the Director of the Bangor Vet Center in Maine. We provide free counseling to Combat Veterans, survivors of Military Sexual Trauma (MST), & bereavement counseling to family members when someone dies on Active Duty as a separate part of the Veterans Administration. Vet Centers are out in the community and we attempt to help Veterans and family members readjust to life as they reengage and return to their community. I have been the director for 7 years and have long said that I framed how I wanted to lead my team based on your "Leaders Eat Last" talk at the Stockdale Center & Brené Brown's talk "The Power of Vulnerability". This is so wonderful to get to hear the two of you have these conversations. Thank you both for your work, your work has had a profound impact on me and those that I serve on my team or anyone that walks through our front doors. Again, thank you both for helping me create & sustain the team we have here. With gratitude, Kirk

[@dmccarthy70]

Two of today’s best thinkers talking and challenging each other. This is heavenly. More more pls.

[@nathangerowitz2246]

I think I speak for all of us when I say, “Please do a 15 hour podcast together!”

[@seleniavelez9982]

Yes please 🥰🥰🥰

[@abeerkhabti2939]

Make it a weekly podcast or do it regularly! I love bring both thinking together, speaking as a person who does a lot of research on systems thinking, what you guys just did is show us the whole picture! thank you

[@mvn17997]

Knowing their material quite well, I find it adding little, other than that it demonstrates their willingness to learn from the other, but again, it adds hardly any new insight. See also my posting higher up, listening to it through the lense of spiral dynamics.

[@joycecarnes6422]

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[@ednadeguzman8554]

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[@nancyfalcon2796]

this is the best episode yet. Simon's chuckles and Brene's giggles are infectious.

[@auradiana]

if we had the Simon Senek party and the Brene Brown party, we would save America, because the way these two workout disagreements or differences is brilliant. Unlike our politicians, they dont belittle, insult become defensive or try to compete over who is right. They work on COMMON GROUND and troubleshoot from there. Brilliant!!!

[@urvashiappiah2736]

Two of my favourite people!!! OMG!!! 💗

[@katykern5947]

One of the best podcasts I've listened to recently. These two people, both and at different times in my life, inspired me to look at myself - truly look at myself, and drop the fears, habits, and conditionings so many of us are wrap in to finally take a REAL look within and ask, "Are you ready to make changes that will make you feel uncomfortable, wade through the muck of your own BS and recognize the who you are truly and accept it wholeheartedly to discover your deepest, vulnerable and courageous WHY and what makes you YOU?" And I did and it worked - yet, it didn't have in a single ah-ha moment but a myriad and it took time, patience, batting away old avoidant habits, and learning to stand in my energy with a different perspective. Plus, I continue to work every day to keep discovering myself because we are all altered in our everyday lives by those we choose to interact with. In summary - I did the work, let go of expectations of others, and focused the lens on me. Listen to this podcast and begin the work or continue it. Thank you to you both! Much love and gratitude! :)

[@mvn17997]

Knowing their material quite well and I appreciate it a lot. Made me discover myself similarly. I find the podcast though adding little, other than that it demonstrates their willingness to learn from the other, but again, it adds hardly any new insight. See also my posting higher up, listening to it through the lense of spiral dynamics.

[@craigg5051]

"I'm hardwired to punch them in the face" Love that Brene pulls no punches. "I disagree" "Go on" This was so great to listen to 2 amazing people in a discussion. They disagree on a few things and yet willing to listen to the others view. "This is not "or", its "and" Brilliant!!! Vulnerability minus boundaries is not vulnerability at all!!! Spot On - such great insight.

[@EddyStyl3s]

"I'm hardwired to punch them in the face, but I don't" Then you really aren't hardwired that way. "So I don't think we disagree" "I dont think we do either" Not sure why she made the statement that she disagrees to begin with.

[@ResilientSoul]

My two favorite people!! Thank you for shining bright in this dim world! 🙏☀️

[@postscriptum9824]

2 of my favorite 'I stand up for everyone who doesn't yet themselve and inspire them to do so' and together .... we heal the private lives ánd work lives of soooo many, so we in the end whole this world. By bringing pain to the table, out in the open; pushing these new gateways wide open. The only thing we as a person have to do, is to take on the challenge to more authenticity in our own lives. If I do this for me and my surroundings, and sparkle this outwards ... we show our fellow humans it is possible to be real and belong. No matter whát. I'm IN!❤️❤️

[@Oxyligen]

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony. - Mahatma Gandhi

[@Sonicman415]

Spot on.

[@coach6662]

I've listened to this 3 times in tne last 3 days and learned something new each time. 2 of my favorite authors sharing stories and ideas, nothing better.

[@bilgensag7582]

And finally the conversation we have been waiting for! ❤

[@taabishkhanself-improvemen7331]

*"You'll watch an entire Netflix series even when the first episodes are slow just because someone told you that 'it gets better', but what if you looked at your goals like that and watched your life get better instead?"* Hope this can motivate or inspire some people. Love from a small KZbinr 💙

[@michaelrubio15]

👍🏼❤️

[@andreafeelsfantastic]

Except I totally give up on the series 🙃

[@KatyWithAWhyyy]

So so good. One of the best things about honest, open, respectful dialogue (and friendship!) is gracious disagreement. Simon and Brene don’t agree on everything and the way they navigate and express that is an amazing example of this. ❤️

[@bexualhealing]

I’m legit in love with both of these people

[@jenniferdona9098]

This is what our brain should be consuming! I can listen to you two all day!!

[@ChristopherCDaniels]

I'm a huge fan of both Simon and Brene`. This was an absolutely beautiful conversation to bear witness to. Sending to three friends, and hitting play again right now. Thank you both for the work you do - it is changing the world. It has changed me.

[@racaciaruth4460]

I can just hug you for saying that about parenting Mrs Brown!!! We must be the example, we program our kids and thus we make society and future adults. 🙏 Trauma and setbacks brings humans together. It is an opportunity to bind people together, whether male, female, white or black. Inspire on 💘.... Keep playing, keep inspiring and keep loving. 🙏

[@thetmjhealer]

Brené is correct about being hard wired neurobiologically to respond to danger/ discomfort. Our autonomic nervous system responds reflexively and instinctually to anything the brain perceives as a threat to the organism’s survival. The brain spends 70% of its time monitoring breathing, etc. That’s its #1 priority. When our environment is not uncomfortable, the ANS prioritizes the monitoring of all our body’s systems: electrical, chemical, muscular, etc. It’s only after the danger is over, that we switch back to using our prefrontal cortex to figure out what happened, plan how to prevent it from happening next time, etc., Cognition is a much slower process. Despite our need to break down what happened into segments to explain it, our immediate survival is not language dependent, or we’d have be some animal’s dinner. Rather we need to respond reflexively to feelings, emotions, and thoughts. My guess is we describe positive emotions (intangible) in terms of negative emotions (apparently tangible) because the brain is wired to be sensitive to contrasts, and the negative ones are more impactful, because inflammation and danger all produce nearly the same neurochemicals. Vision is based on contrasts, as are tongue and throat muscles to produce speech. How we perceive sound changes depending on the contrasting nature of it. Olfactory is the same; notice how we don’t lose our ability to detect noxious odors no matter how long we’re exposed to them. We are able to describe asthma and apnea more readily than normal breathing. I also believe this is why meditation, and being more aware of the mind and body when at rest is so restorative for our health. Wim Hof has done the reverse. He uses contrasting forms of voluntary breathing to train his involuntary responses to traditional threats, like immersion in ice cold water for long periods of time. So much we don’t know, but amazing nonetheless. Great discussion!

[@Hamiltron03]

I really like Brene's comment about the WHY sitting on top of the 3-legged stool. I agree with her. After reading Find Your WHY and going through the process of creating a WHY statement, I had to focus a great deal of thought on my behavior and feelings in many different situations to come up with the words that could summarize my WHY. Thinking about behavior and feelings is how I got to my WHY.

[@airth5804]

So refreshing to listen to this level of thought and insight. The back and forth and working through the differences of thought. So powerful and moving!

[@scico2012]

Thank you Brene for pointing out the systemic and intersectionality side during that part in the convo where ‘men are better entrepreneur’s. From one social worker to another it’s really wonderful how you introduce these ideas so naturally and help broaden people’s awareness with that lens! Really enjoyed the convo.

[@arfin97]

What could be better than this? Thank you.

[@tukituki127]

I couldn’t leave this podcast without saying that it is probably one of the best I have ever heard. Ideas and believes were share without attachment and total openness. Love both of them! Thank you for inspiring me.

[@koroglurustem1722]

This conversation went over my head around 25-30 mins in. So beautiful back and forth is happening here, involving some elusive concepts.

[@jillsalkin7389]

Same for me, and I usually love and follow this type of conversation. But, I think it was actually semantics and splitting hairs. There is a message that was over and above what seemed confusing.

[@1JimmyL]

I freaking love love love love love this entire chat !!!!!!

[@Zcat1956]

You Two need to do this again and again, and with us seeing your vulnerable facts and leadership chops.. in action. This is the purest Gold I have run across on KZbin. THIS!!!!

[@Nika-Dubai]

Love you both, Thank You!

[@ryannickens7848]

I love a woman who swears freely.

[@cindywright6436]

This combo is the perfect balance. You both became less gimmick-y to me today. I hope you continue this collab. Thank you for what your doing/being underneath your celebrity.

[@sarabennette2289]

You are both my favourite people I don't know personally in the world. Thank you for this wonderful conversation. Keep doing what you are doing, you are leaving this world in such a better place. ❤

[@simonsezconsult]

What I also like about this is that both seem not to be so bothered about how they sound to us the audience (look/sound nice for the camera). Both approach life principles from different angles, and that's the flavor. The conversation is not preachy, each person tries to help the other understand his/her position, but disagreement is allowed...just cool. This conversation oozes with more quality if you've listened to each of them severally before this.

[@boardgrinder]

Could you make a series of you two talking please??? 💕💕💕

[@carrier-d1816]

Or publish your e-mails and text to one another, right?

[@michaelrubio15]

Yes!🙌🏻

[@valariehenry3238]

A very well spent 53 minutes and 22 seconds. Thank you.

[@mgardner63]

Two amazing minds coming together for too brief of an enlightening conversation

[@unspokenwounds]

I have been falling in love with Brene' Browns work for the past year or so, having devoured Simons i am honestly so happy you both did this podcast. Currently listening to Daring Greatly and loving this over some wine while supper cooks. Please make the 15 hour podcast lol

[@billymerrigold7419]

“Vulnerability minus boundaries, and an understanding of why you’re sharing, is dangerous”

[@teamaden2185]

I adored the conversation & the friendly challenging relationship you two exhibited in this connection. Thank you so much for tons of insights, fun & the genuine laughter. @Simon your laughter was contagious 😅

[@koroglurustem1722]

I agree with Brene when she says that "you can't engage people in meaningful change without giving them tools and skills which requires new cognitive ways to think about the situation". Humans need a model of reality (new cognitive ways) where you can control inputs and expect certain outcomes (change happens). That's the problem solution. We humans are looking for relationships between events and things and stories carry these "run experiments" where we can draw many abstract lessons from. Without new tools and ways of thinking, we get inspired by a story but don't know how to act ! That's why I have come to realize that you need to learn lots of specific methods in order to be able to act "correctly" and get results.

[@elviratukaeva5650]

Thank you, thank you, thank you Simon and Brené 🙏🏻

[@jenliberato7698]

So love and adore this two!! I could listen to them all day. I have learned so much from their books, TED talks and podcasts. All blessings and power to you guys.

[@angellombness4371]

I believe the concepts of start with why and vulnerability with boundaries moving past shame to empathy will live on. Thank Y💙U As a lifetime Ballerina, become (slash) an Accountant, I understand the metaphor. I appreciate both of their books. To hear them discuss ideas together brings my moments of joy.

[@stellamarisokello2140]

What a treat 2 of my favourite people at the same time

[@jasminhamilton1147]

Brene' and Simon, an awesome motivating team! Awesome guys! Thank you!

[@carolstiefer]

Two of my favorite people!

[@ProductivityACE]

Awesome. Two of my favourite leadership experts!

[@marcelwilliams4265]

15 hour podcast = The Infinite Podcast This was an excellent sharing of ideas. Thank you.

[@indosurftours]

At 45 I’m just now getting why I’ve had problems communicating with both partners in business and relationships. Not to say that I’ve never had any great partnerships. I never understood why people have to make things more complicated then it is. It’s one shit test after another and how we learn and deal with these tests are the results of our reality.

[@ashleydavis8014]

The two of you having a conversation is just amazing. I love how you can disagree with respect for one another and both be open to hearing each other’s perspective. Thank you both ❤️

[@drsarahassouna]

Best episode ever!! Simon and Brené you are my favourite 2 authors/ speakers in the world!! and the bing-bong dynamic between both of you is so inspiring and intellectually stimulating!! Thank you :)

[@meiming1]

The inextricable connectedness of human beings.......lets expand this....the connectedness of all life

[@jhe8492]

That connection with others can be sustained through meditation and its fruits of awakening which we call enlightenment seeing our interconnections with one another and the universe.

[@beckyharper6263]

Huge fan of you Simon. I work at Amazon right now, as did not want to go on unemployment and just shared your video of what is love and others with them. You my friend are great and love your work!

[@gallevran]

YES!!!!! Please do a 15 hour (or days 🤷🏽‍♀️) podcast with Brene!!!!

[@joshpryor2193]

How awesome. I am a fan of both their works. This will be fascinating.

[@roogrey]

Superb! I started this thinking I'd do the first fifteen minutes with my lunch and listen to the rest later. Fifty-three minutes later... Apart from all the gems in here, you've also given us a masterclass on the art of debate. When the world opens up again, you should do a lecture tour together! Thank you for sharing this.

[@CarlaSophieMar]

This is a must watch! Simon Sinek and Brené Brown? 🤩 I'm tuning in!

[@PinkSallyProductions]

Thank you to both of you, two of my favourite minds, thinking out loud together. I learn so much from both of you. Bring on the 15hr version! Be well 🌹

[@lvzhyt]

I love Simon's laugh

[@lauraelizabethfugate9107]

Fantastic. Thank you fellow teammates!!! 😎😎😎

[@anbow0409]

What a treat!

[@julilabrecque8287]

I love love loved this episode. my two favourite speakers and authors..

[@michellemorkel5956]

Thank you Simon and Brene for the amazing podcast!! You both are my my favorite!! I learn so much from your work

[@hollylandez462]

I love this podcast so much!!! Thank you both for your valuable thoughts, guidance, and inspiration!!! I appreciate your ability to disagree so happily. So great!

[@VIKIMM]

... thanks muchly ...💜 luv n light blessings ✝️💜 .

[@mattlaceydrummer]

Heard this in podcast form when it came out. Thank you for making me aware of Brené's work Simon. Have subsequently watched her TED talk and bought her book - Daring Greatly - it has helped me contextualise so much of my life and contributed in me changing careers. Love both your work!

[@ladym0pha]

Simon's laugh cracks me up. The BEST! 🤣

[@rosieeilon1882]

Both of you should spread your messages over rooftops❤️ Really had such an amazing experience from the clearly stated ideas you presented in this podcast❤️ Thanks a million 🙏

[@chaniemonoker9934]

Great talk. I am surprised Simon to hear you say that your vision/legacy ends with you. Did I misunderstand? Your flame may dim briefly, but with all the work you have left behind you will inspire someone else to pick up your vision. To do so in your lifetime you groom a protégé. Religions have done so successfully for hundreds of years.

[@spencemaddy]

They disagree and it’s so positive. We need a 15hour podcast!!

[@juliedavis2031]

the "finite vs. infinite" game gives me a wonderful framework for collaborative journeys in challenging times - where we have no destination but along the way there are milestones to celebrate and look back

[@AhmetKaan]

*"You are one desicion away from a totally diffrent life."*

[@jameslee5336]

I’d most definitely listen to that 15 hour podcast!! You both are great

[@remixandkaraoke]

I love these two!

[@mifforry29]

Oh just wonderful! So much to take and think about further. Thank you both!

[@DJIrisch]

Lovely 😍😍😍finally both reunited... great discussions

[@siennamay2499]

This is the most amazing conversation... thank you so much to both you beautiful people 🙏🏻♥️♥️ love you

[@julieo.2352]

OMGGGGGGGGGGGG two of my favorites Finally!!!!!!!! I love both of you. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@planetsimple1]

My first 2 fav Ted Talks and leader crushes! Can’t wait to listen.....

[@francoisashton7156]

Stunning stuff. 2 great minds who show that being willing to listen and trying to understand each other can overcome differences. What special people!! We need more of them. Thanks to you both for being such an inspiration and amazing teachers for so many of us. I leave the discussion very inspired.

[@stansewitch3735]

Reaction to this podcast---These are two people who have told compelling stories, in articulate, cognitively complex language structures, and who live their lives above the viscerally troubling and emotional times in which we live. Apparently. What personal tragedies or emotional storms have they navigated? If they have, and they would tell us about their dark nights of the soul, I would find their perspectives more credible and authentic. I confess to the cynicism I suffer from having lived enough decades to have heard too much from celebrity Thought Leaders who earn their living by telling us all How It Should Be, or How We Should Think About the Big Things. I hunger for the likes of Viktor Frankl, people who share their own stories and the realizations that they learned from them. Sinek and Brown are theoreticians, it seems, who spend their days pondering and proposing, as a means of earning their living. This podcast is a mirthful game of intellectual tennis between pros, and the ball is the sum total of deep human experience that they touch from the safe distance of the length of their rational racquet. If they would demonstrate vulnerability themselves, perhaps they would understand why they, as well as many others, fear it.

[@MsOwam]

I have been trying to express this very same message and you did it exquisitely.

[@YoLyrick]

This was the best KZbin video I’ve listened to in a long long long time. Huge fan of you both for different reasons. 💚😊

[@annettefella8945]

I REALLY ENJOYED YOU TWO! THANK YOU.

[@jhe8492]

That’s what I like about USA people like you who have the eyes to see and articulate of what’s going on. You should be the advisers for the Republicans and Democrats

[@dianaflegal4495]

I want to keep hitting the like button! Thank you for giving us language for how we feel, think, and relate to others.

[@annfuller9044]

So spot on together spirituality. Yeah to both of you. I love you both singly together you are so are thought provoking. Do your 15 hour pod cast. I'll be here.

[@conspiracyclues]

Hey Simon 👋 you're a great leader 😊

[@SimonaFM]

This is amazing you two together! Thank you. Yes, please do more! 🌻

[@isabelleboulay2651]

Truly enjoyed this connection and sharing. It resumes the basic consciousness that I live. Self-worth, self-care bring self-confidence and grounding where the only time I have is the present in a web of connections with others. The only way I can bring to others my energy and vulnerability is by being self-aware. There is no true sharing and vulnerability with balance unless I connect to myself. Curiosity brings me towards the others where there can then be honest exchange. Meditation brings me back to myself, at peace and ready to continue in infinite journey. 😘 Thank you for sharing with us. It's part of your journey to reach out to all of us and we shall pass it on. 🙏

[@lhainetan20]

In the beginning i was taking notes of things that i found interesting hoping i can ruminate and then talk to some of my friends and colleagues about it afterwards. 20mins into listening i gave up. And i just listened. If you ever Brene do decide to do that 15hr podcast please post it up. Would live to listen to it. 😍😎🥸

[@Marmer]

34:59 "This too will pass", hahah! I like his laugh! Brené's too!

[@BlindPilot1711]

Really love this. The way the two of you exchanged ideas, disagreed, laughed and finally agreeing on a common understanding of those ideas gave me the chance to broaden my point of view. Thank you 😌

[@sabinehayes4242]

Wow!!! Hands down, one of the best talks I've heard in a long time!

[@daveshine]

Powerful Powerful thank guys ❤️🙌

[@OneAdam12Adam]

Yes, please do the 15 hour podcast.

[@courtneycanchari5161]

you guys need a weekly podcast

[@harmonylifewithjess1593]

Ohhh..i had a relisten..soooo good 🙌

[@chingbachiller2613]

Very inspiring. Thank you. God bless. 🙏🏿