The Only PvP Roguelite? (Rounds)

[@TheZedman5000]

NL talking about yeast starters while he and Dan both pick useless skills, Dan picking lifesteal when NL kills him in one hit, NL picking a damage increase when he already oneshots Dan you know the banter's pog when no one's thinking about the game

[@argenteus8314]

Damage is its own reward.

[@jacefairis1289]

yeah but increasing damage higher gives you beefier explosions, which is its own reward

[@TheZedman5000]

@@jacefairis1289 I didn't notice that until after posting my comment, but yeah, a more impressive explosion is pretty cool even if anything but a direct hit doesn't do anything

[@metroid4374]

This genuinely felt like an incoherent podcast

[@Scroolewse]

The build Dan had in the last one was legit as fuck though.

[@Ghostneedle1]

NL: *hits self with own bullet* NL: Oh look we have the same build!

[@dizzyroach]

2 circles shoot each other and talk about bread and fancy water for 50 minutes

[@pedrorodrigueziii4859]

I almost feel like the fact they were so invested in the conversation took away from their focus on the game. Overall entertaining, but both the convo and the game deserved their own spotlight.

[@huemanporson9954]

Wait, how Fancy IS the water?

[@dizzyroach]

@@huemanporson9954 Fancy enough to be $70

[@huemanporson9954]

@@dizzyroach owch, I don’t think I can handle that water

[@austinw3966]

You just described his formula

[@kylerivera3470]

I was kinda surprised when Dan first spoke. I thought that NL was just using Dan as an example and was going to play with randoms, but suddenly having a second person in the video caught me off guard.

[@wink_wonk]

King of Retail been reaaaaaallll quiet since Rounds came out

[@weewingwong8961]

I neeeeed it

[@zalatro]

Good?

[@Pedun42]

I'm cry

[@teratoma.]

sadge

[@kingchuckfinley]

I miss it

[@ThachWeave]

This feels like a Classic NLSS game and I'm here for it.

[@cultoftyler9045]

i cant remember the name of the game but they used to play one like this but better basically

[@popeyesailorman3544]

@@cultoftyler9045 Duck Game? That was amazing

[@MangoOdin]

Speed runners was a fav

[@cultoftyler9045]

@@popeyesailorman3544 nope

[@wertywerty300]

@@cultoftyler9045 definitely stick fight

[@alseenei8072]

I think all the times I cried “just shoot the gun!” put me on a watchlist.

[@GERuseless]

Yeah, he kinda always tried to get right into Dan's face.

[@MrUrbnGamr]

Same lmao, maybe there’s a cool down?

[@calinguga]

@@MrUrbnGamr yes there is cooldown

[@BodywiseMustard]

There's speed between shots, and there's reload

[@thatcynicalbastard6636]

When he was blocking tho.

[@halfwing3306]

NL, making bread is perfect for your lifestyle. you mix the ingredient, and knead the bread (by hand or in a mixer) for 15 minutes, and then cover it, record an isaac episode, come back, shuffle it into a oiled bread pan, record another isaac, and then bake it for ~30 minutes.

[@Sgman1991]

That doesn't sound like the process for making sourdough. I've got a starter, and it's quite a bit more complicated. You have to mix it, let it sit for ~30 min, fold it, wait another ~30 min, fold it, maybe do one or two more folds after 30 min waits. You then have to bulk rise it for ~4 hours. You then pre-shape it, let it sit for ~20 min, then shape it. You then let it proof for a couple hours at least, up to overnight in the refrigerator. You then bake it for ~40-50 min.

[@dwayneschmetsky]

@@Sgman1991 maybe not sourdough specifically but there's plenty of doughs that are like proof once at room temp for an hour, punch down and proof in a fridge overnight or at room temp for another hour. there's definitely breads that can be tailored to an isaac episode schedule

[@dwayneschmetsky]

my point is bread is only as complicated as you feel like making it

[@flumsenumse]

i'm sure he knows, he used to make bread with his dad.

[@NoxionDesign]

I thought that some of these levels and the guns looked familiar. Almost everything including the animations and transitions are from an older game from these guys called Stick Fight: The Game

[@TheMajorpickle01]

also similar to Duck Game which is an old school NLSS classic

[@Keyw]

It's definitely super similar to SF and some of the abilities are for sure the same, but I'm relatively confident that the maps are unique (in terms of layout, not theme), and I think that no assets are exactly the same (character models, guns, explosion effects, etc.).

[@BodywiseMustard]

Yeah I was certain this would be made by the Stick Fight guys

[@jacob5061]

@@booboo_959 read the full comment, lol

[@narwhalguy3829]

I was pretty sure of this just from the art style, that’s so sick

[@jacefairis1289]

12:34 "I will say this - I got branded last night," woah Dan tmi lmfao

[@TheOtherOlesen]

I’m still flabbergasted by the Pepsi vs Coke discussion because to me they taste distinctly different, and I’ve even done a blind taste test and gotten them right each time. To me it’s like wheat vs white bread

[@cogwheel5979]

yeah me too

[@waffleman2211]

Can people not tell them apart? They are both colas, but they taste very different. Like, two red wines from different vineyards and different years are going to taste different

[@blahthebiste7924]

@@waffleman2211 I can tell apart different water brands, but coke and pepsi tasted identical to me the one time I did a taste test

[@frek175]

@@waffleman2211 theyre literally almost identical. Thats like trying to differentiate between two packs of milk the difference is incredibly minimal to the point that its not even relevant.

[@friendlyplayer92]

@@frek175 for sure not. They are distinctly different. Like you can also taste the difference in sugar vs light drinks. Its distinct

[@gabrielcosta7913]

Incredibly pogged to hear of the oncoming NL Food arc

[@jarjab2games]

This is the character development we needed

[@huemanporson9954]

So I just searched the definition of the word pog, poggers, and pogged. The only definition I found of pogged basically meant full.

[@8bitbee148]

@@huemanporson9954 it comes from old milk cap games called Pog and became popular from PogCamp, look that up if you want more pogged info

[@huemanporson9954]

@@8bitbee148 cool

[@henrymccoy2306]

@@huemanporson9954 You're looking in the wrong places. Pog is extremely colloquial so you need to look at urban dictionary and unofficial sites like that

[@XxAlchemystxX]

Egg, I approve everything you do on twitch and on yt. Although I still want to ask for more king of retail. As of writing this the day is far from over, so there's a chance that you changed your schedule. If so, don't mind the comment. Love your funny words, Egg man.

[@cattolord33]

He hasn't played King of Retail in a while unfortunately due to all the Isaac content. Maybe if he doesn't have a new interesting game to try out/has an empty timeslot in between all the Isaac

[@tarnin]

These streams with Dan have been poggers big time!

[@DanGheesling]

=)

[@1sneakyboi730]

Okay but besides the conversation, that Combine Grow Shot he got was insane

[@NICOTHATKID]

I wish the rounds were long. I want to see the chaotic combos

[@PotatoLabs]

Modded

[@bernardshaw7405]

Wow that's a crazy king of retail update

[@Damian-lh8ft]

10/10 pepsi and coke have completely different flavors. I literally have not mistaken one for the other in my entire life. I'm the cola champ

[@Aether_GM]

Someone put this man in office

[@cultoftyler9045]

yea they are literally different drinks

[@Damian-lh8ft]

@@cultoftyler9045 A hard one would be Mr.Pibb vs Dr.Pepper

[@john_john_john]

Dan is really chill, it's always great when he's on stream.

[@XypherFTW]

"Im so dead." NL's bullet: "you dont even know how right you are."

[@glitch6996]

LETS GOOO. Landfall said a 2v2 mode is planned and future content updates as well. Goated game

[@huemanporson9954]

That sounds pretty slik

[@jaialexander5458]

all this talk of sourdough starter got me wanting to make my own. I always love you and Dan's banter. its next level.

[@JonathanSharman]

Try it - it's fun!

[@Rahhmen]

I could watch this banter simulator for hours, great vid

[@frankoarseeknee4793]

Nl hitting himself with his own bullet: Oh, I didn’t know we had the same build.

[@Baelaleglass]

In reference to the Delorean bit, they were actually made from unpainted stainless steel! That is what gave them their metallic sheen! There were a couple that were painted, but most were predominantly unpainted.

[@Doomroar]

NL telling Dan he has been reading about the stock market before going to sleep, but he has been reading Harry Potter fan fics and that's why he didn't want to give out names.

[@chuck08113]

Would love to see more of this. Both on KZbin if possible and on stream with the crew. Keep up the good work man.

[@tatertot57]

Just throwing this out there: the guitarist from Creed is Mark Tremonti. He is in Alter Bridge with Myles Kennedy, Scott Phillips, and Brian Marshall. Fantastic band. Compare his solo in With Arms Wide Open by Creed to his solo in Blackbird by Alter Bridge. The man shreds, he just needed the right avenue.

[@yoyobeerman1289]

So a yeast starter (for anyone who is curious and doesn't care enough to google it) is basically a colony of yeast, either bought commercially or captured from your surroundings. The flavor it imparts is largely due to the strain(s) of yeast that you have in your starter. This is also a large part of developing the flavor of different types of cheeses. You use different strains of yeasts and bacteria to create different flavor profiles as it ages. Likewise, the flavor of a starter will mature and change over it's lifetime. Usually you keep your yeast in roughly a cup of flour (the actual amount is based on the amount of starter you plan on using), and at regular intervals, you have to feed it sugar. When you use some of it in your bread, you simply replenish the starter by adding some more flour, maybe a dash of water, and some sugar (if it needs it) and simply leave your yeast to reproduce. Think of it almost like a needy herb garden. You can mostly ignore it, but it requires regular, simple maintenance, and whenever you need a little bit of it's produce, you simply take a pinch of it.

[@multipleSpiders]

pet yeast

[@jaccubin]

What's the point of having 10 cups if you're only taste testing 2 liquids? If you can tell the difference you'll get 100% right whether it's 2 cups or 1000. If you can't tell the difference your success rate will tend towards 50%.

[@cultoftyler9045]

in any test of a hypothesis you need to make sure your sample size is big enough

[@cultoftyler9045]

if there are 2 cups, if you cant tell the difference between them you still have a 25% chance of getting them both right. that number goes down the more cups you test

[@TheOtherOlesen]

Your last statement is the point of having more. With just two cups, you can completely guess and accidentally get it right but as you have more, it’ll indicate whether or not you can truly tell the difference or are just guessing.

[@jaccubin]

@@TheOtherOlesen Fair enough, I didnt think of people just guessing.

[@ezrabialowas2055]

The idea of a chat court where you go through unban requests on stream seems so toxic but hilarious

[@chrisegg7936]

coke vs. pepsi, I would absolutely never get one wrong.

[@marvinthamenace]

fully agreed. so distinct imo

[@songbirdsandsandwiches8217]

"the only pvp rougelike" I'm going to tell you dark knowledge traveler, those who are weak of mind turn away now. Battle royale games ARE pvp rougelikes, think about it, you start with nothing, along the way you find random weapons and items that benefit you in many ways allowing you to "build" a character for that run, you compete with other players to get those items and if you die, it's over, you once again start at zero only to build yourself back up again finding new yet familiar items and builds.

[@huemanporson9954]

Fair enough.

[@Dice-Z]

You've got a good point, but also battle royale games and this one don't entirely fit the roguelike style to be honest, it's missing some typical elements like the exploration/environment traversal style of roguelikes, no ressource management or such, and so on.

[@Nezha_Main]

@@Dice-Z Exploration and resources? I dislike fortnite greatly HOWEVER, you have an entire map, you have resources too get so you can build, and that's all I care to remember that is e ouch to best your argument, also PubG which had you getting resources for weapons and crap, and also a giant map to explore, you pretty much defined the battle royal games.

[@yasinachekzai2567]

21:20 That sounds like a great Mighty Ducks-style Disney movie for the whole family right there. The local team can no longer compete because everyone got sick, so a bunch of loyal fans play in their stead. ^.^

[@MuradBeybalaev]

16:15 When describing the medium, you should probably start with water. Yeast doesn't need you to feed it sweets. It breaks flour into simple sugars already - that's its whole central evolutionary adaptation.

[@manedwolf815]

the most renowned starters from bakeries tend to be at least 25 years old and jealously guarded... tbf those loaves are divine

[@manedwolf815]

some of the oldest ones in the world are reputed to be 200+ years old

[@adissentingopinion848]

Second game: Dan: A carefully crafted build that incorporates options for terrain manipulation, consistent damage availability, cqc deterrence, and lifesteal NL: BEEG BOOLET THAT GETS BEEEEGER

[@Dudebug2000]

I had no idea you played rounds on your channel before. I've been playing it for well over a year with my friend, and we enjoy it immensely.

[@ryancostello7208]

NL talking about someone having low self awareness while shooting himself 5 times in the last minute and thinking it was the other guy is the content I am here for.

[@lordthor5951]

Dan keeping picking lifesteal stuff in spite of all his deaths in that round being him getting oneshot...

[@gammafighter]

NL complaining about a troll in his chat and Dan laughing is how you know Dan is a true friend.

[@janwith-context]

I love how some of the maps look like they're faces

[@penguwave4025]

Fantastic. Seems like a great fit for NLSS. All they need is 4-player

[@a_commenter]

I think the whole thing about people liking interpersonal conflict is why among us blew up as much as it did

[@elijahamgast]

this game has a lot of potential. some of the combos were really cool, those ricochet shots NL was hitting were poggy

[@Gator807]

the stage design and card art is fantastic

[@stuffyworld10]

I'm a simple man. I hear someone mention Shellshock and I POG

[@rustile306]

I would love to find out what Dan thought doom scrolling was at first. I swear he probably imagined NL writing on a gigantic scroll with a feather pen by candlelight.

[@Wertsir]

That’s absurd. It’s obviously when the Doomslayer writes a letter.

[@kevinmadero7256]

I heard a story recently of some housekeeping throwing out a family's starter that was about 4 generations old and the family was very distraught. The starter looked like mold

[@AleczanderSmith]

Finally... Hopefully now this game will get enough attention that it finally gets that long awaited 4 player update

[@funkymushroom]

There are mods that add 4 player as well as other stuff like rounds longer than 5

[@AdvancePlays]

Glad to discover this was made by the same team as Stick Fight - it would've put a hamper on it if someone else was so obviously aping their visual language.

[@RoyToadstool]

I feel like you both don't want to destroy the other and just play slow to give each other a chance, but you don't know that about each other.

[@atigersgrin]

I don't remember the name of the game, but there was a isometric fighting game where you picked up weapons on the map and drafted abilities between rounds. I think it was played on the NLSS a few years ago.

[@cultoftyler9045]

just put a nearly identical reply to someone

[@fictionmyth]

I'm glad someone named a Coriander plant after me... I feel honored.

[@samueltrusik3251]

Hearing them just talk about nonsense while paying 10% attention to the game and exploring it filled me with pain.

[@cultoftyler9045]

I could 100% correctly guess which is coca cola and which is pepsi from 100 glasses. like i dont understand, they are different drinks they taste different

[@cultoftyler9045]

its like comparing apple juice and orange juice

[@TheOtherOlesen]

It’s hard for me to grasp even knowing that tastes are different for people, but I’m with ya. For me, It’s like saying white and wheat bread taste the same because they are both bread.

[@lordthor5951]

Dunno about other places but pepsi is way more carbonated where I like its not even a question, or at least the carbonation feels way more aggrasive.

[@hephesto555666]

Not really my kind of thing, but what a cool design space to work in. So much you could do with a setup like this!

[@dethloard]

so the deal with pearl jam v creed is that you can tell the difference pretty quickly since creed songs always have some kind of veiled religious imagery in like every song.

[@zippydipity42]

Not only am I certain that I could single out pepsi max from any of the coca cola variants in a blind taste test; I'd do it in a smell test alone. My life used to be pepsi max.

[@mrrp405]

Came back to this, all that isaac talk about freshness and choice, and now look at it.

[@carlchameleon9847]

My dad has had his grandparents sour dough starter for his whole adult life and its still going strong

[@viziroth]

I can absolutely tell the difference between pepsi and coke. I've done it several times heh.

[@eugoth4285]

Can we have more king of retail please?

[@jasperzatch610]

10/10 would watch the taste test video/s, please do it lmao. Love this game, hope to see more of it

[@larkinggames1060]

Is it the same people who made stick fight!? I’m assuming so or it’s heavily inspired by it

[@huemanporson9954]

Yes, also the same people that made tabs

[@Saij0]

Air fryer vs convection oven taste test 😈

[@erato4362]

I love that moment when my guy Dan fucken loses it at the concept of doomscrolling. Those moments are why Dan is Omegagood.

[@thaumaturgeslit7759]

Time to give this a try, I was pogged for daily King of Retail. But taking a break to not cause burnout is fair! This game seems pretty intresting so far, I'm ready for the complex build battles later on!

[@tommccloud5105]

"Who's the alien guy? [In Blink 182] Pete Wentz?"

[@nicks.17]

A Pepsi/Coke taste test would be frickin awesome

[@cultoftyler9045]

i would get 100% right

[@ControlerAlpha]

this game is amazing. so glad you showed me.

[@danv7981]

Wouldn’t Kirby Air Ride’s City trial mode count as a pvp roguelite?

[@matejplachta9460]

Pogged out of my gourd hearing that NL may make dealing with food!

[@noahbigmac]

You're telling me Dan is from Michigan but is a sharks fan? I don't think that's legal.

[@Semiotichazey]

"Do you check your emails?" If you're professional, no matter the profession, you have at least one address where the answer is always "yes." NL gets that. That's why he has limits.

[@divineholinessjr]

I only just thought about this but Dan in one of the matchs was literally building life steal... against a man with a one shot kill build

[@ImArubis]

Ohh we gonna get a Rhett, Link and Dont hurt me Im Ryan video?

[@lethanielsimpson641]

Literally described "Rounds" in the very beginning

[@vedal1358]

Soooo true

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

Insert king of retail joke here.

[@Tkiller0081]

Get mods, eggo ! It allows you to add loads of whacky cards but more plainly it allows you to play more rounds in a single game, leading to more insane builds!

[@Semiotichazey]

The midpoint between Creed and Pearl Jam is Live

[@gabe1ist]

golden age of NL content

[@Matt-lk5ng]

have to say it was kinda rough seeing the other guy stack lifesteal when he was getting one shot. like what is that gonna help you?

[@matchboxboom]

Hyperjam is kind of similar to this but you can also have 4 player. I’d love to see you try it out.

[@darkangelsmarine]

40:45 my favorite bit of this vid.

[@FranchesLoL]

This is like Move Or Die.

[@evanfischer147]

Whilst Scott Stap and Eddie Vedder sound fairly similar I would think most people could tell the difference

[@byronnakatsuka3585]

Are battle royales PVP roguelites?

[@Honorablepleb]

Now youre asking the real questions

[@Dragonoidalpha]

If I buy this game, do my friends need to buy it too or can they play without it?

[@t900HAWK]

yessssss i love this game really helps kill time on a slow day at work

[@comradexdface]

Rogue lineage is another pvp roguelike made in 2019. Imo it has to be one of the hardest games in gaming history, though they did tone down the grind a bit. Before progressing took like a week, the progression is also at a certain point entirely pvp. If you die 3 times, you wipe and have to start all over. There are things like Phoenix downs which will give you a life back, but they are rare. But now progressing takes about 2 days to get through 3/4ths of the progression so it's not too bad now.

[@TacoSnipezZ]

RIP King Of Retail

[@robotrage3882]

will you put chat trials on youtube lol

[@craz107]

so they mixed stick fight and shellshock? Seems really fun

[@xuanlim4451]

the shot at 42:00 ....

[@JM-pk2nv]

And he completely negates the pop shot right after at 42:30. Never change, NL.

[@tyja49]

This game is a lot of fun

[@egastar37]

What’s a starter?

[@BoldManBlue]

Hey, adding interaction to the comment section.

[@huemanporson9954]

Be careful with those words. Someone might be spiteful enough to report you so that no interactions may occur anymore. It’s a slippery slope.

[@ryanbitter574]

synthetik co op is basically pvp if you and your friend hate each other

[@nalifetime2539]

I currently have the exact same boom box in my attic