The Open Forum Episode 29

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Episode 29 of 'The Open Forum' where Christians are invited to join the discussion with our panelists Hamza, Ijaz, Sadat, Abbas, Nazam & Imran. Guests will be invited on a first come first serve basis. Please note we can only have a maximum of 10 panelists (including efdawah panelists) at any one time. Link to join the panel :
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Timestamps/Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction without Abbas Singing 😅
0:37 - Purpose of the stream
1:11 - Kais & other Christians challenging Hamza
2:46 - Muslim guest joins
3:45 - Discussion on 1 John 5:7
4:06 - Brother Yusuf joins
4:22 - Christians still believing Bible to be the word of God despite the contradictions & fabrications
4:52 - Testing the miracle of the Qur'an
7:15 - Frank & brother Nazam join
7:36 - Christians defending the KJV Bible & the forgery of 1 John 5:7
9:19 - Why Christians accept the Bible's message despite the numerous errors & contradictions?
24:26 - Anonymous authors of the Bible & its lack of Early Manuscripts & Rejecting the Apocrypha
32:33 - Unreliability of the Bible & The Ecumenical councils deciding the nature of Jesus
35:21 - Frank's claim that Qur'an has fictional stories & the brothers' refutation & its comparison with the Bible
50:13 - Reviewing the discussion with Frank & inviting Non-Muslims
51:54 - Background of Brother Yusuf
56:00 - Analysis of Brother Jake's discussion with skydivephil
1:04:23 - Carol tries to join
1:04:55 - Nazam becomes Nazambo 😂
1:05:27 - Carol fails to join
1:07:22 - Omar joins
1:07:36 - Discussion on the Bible at the time of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ
1:14:33 - Unreliability of the Bible vs the Preservation of Qur'an: Dawah to Omar
1:18:08 - Discussion on the Crucifixion of Jesus, his nature & his Preaching to the Gentiles
1:22:08 - Muhammad ﷺ being from the lineage of Abraham pbuh & God promising Ishmael a great nation
1:26:20 - Testing the reliability of the New Testament
1:31:46 - Evolution of Jesus's divinity in the Gospels
1:37:31 - Discussion on the Concept of Sacrifice & Forgiveness through Human Sacrifice in the Bible
1:42:56 - Discussion on Original Sin & Forgiveness
1:50:23 - Discussion on Trinity being confusing & Clarity of Islam
1:54:02 - Reasons for Omar not accepting Islam & brothers' response: Preservation of God's Scripture
1:58:24 - Discussion on the Unreliability & inconsistencies in the Bible
2:14:12 - Infighting between Muslims after Muhammad's ﷺ death & its explanation
2:16:41 - Hindsite joins
2:17:27 - Bible containing some truth, its Unreliability & the message of Jesus
2:28:12 - Discussion on Jesus informing his disciples about his Resurrection & their reaction
2:34:24 - Qur'an containing the words of the Prophets & being the criterion
2:38:34 - Claim of Jesus being prophesied in the Old Testament & its refutation
2:39:59 - Where are Jesus & Elijah right now?
2:41:02 - Failed Prophecies in the Bible
2:44:31 - Discussion on the Issues with Christianity
2:52:25 - Analysis of the Corruption of the Bible & its numerous internal inconsistencies
3:03:52 - Quran asking Christians to judge by the Gospel & its explanation
3:06:25 - Reason for Romans crucifying Jesus & John the Baptist
3:11:10 - Christian Biblical Scholars accepting the Unreliability of the Bible & still Believing in it
3:14:51 - Dawah to Jacob
3:16:57 - Christian Scholars who admit the corruption of the Bible
3:19:58 - Bible discrepancies changing the Doctrine of Christianity & evolution of Jesus & his teachings in the Gospels
3:23:35 - The Council of Jerusalem: Paul's teachings contradicting that of the Disciples
3:25:57 - Unreliability of the Bible & lack of Non Christian Sources
3:29:29 - Not taking new guests
3:30:09 - Incident of Mason Greenwood
3:31:45 - Message to Christians
3:34:48 - Coming Up
3:35:41 - Banter & Wrapping Up
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@asadullahsaaid3794
@asadullahsaaid3794 2 жыл бұрын
*Timestamps:* 0:00 - Introduction without Abbas Singing 😅 0:37 - Purpose of the stream 1:11 - Kais & other Christians challenging Hamza 2:46 - Muslim guest joins 3:45 - Discussion on 1 John 5:7 4:06 - Brother Yusuf joins 4:22 - Christians still believing Bible to be the word of God despite the contradictions & fabrications 4:52 - Testing the miracle of the Qur'an 7:15 - Frank & brother Nazam join 7:36 - Christians defending the KJV Bible & the forgery of 1 John 5:7 9:19 - Why Christians accept the Bible's message despite the numerous errors & contradictions? 24:26 - Anonymous authors of the Bible & its lack of Early Manuscripts & Rejecting the Apocrypha 32:33 - Unreliability of the Bible & The Ecumenical councils deciding the nature of Jesus 35:21 - Frank's claim that Qur'an has fictional stories & the brothers' refutation & its comparison with the Bible 50:13 - Reviewing the discussion with Frank & inviting Non-Muslims 51:54 - Background of Brother Yusuf 56:00 - Analysis of Brother Jake's discussion with skydivephil 1:04:23 - Carol tries to join 1:04:55 - _Nazam becomes Nazambo_ 😂 1:05:27 - Carol fails to join 1:07:22 - Omar joins 1:07:36 - Discussion on the Bible at the time of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ 1:14:33 - Unreliability of the Bible vs the Preservation of Qur'an: Dawah to Omar 1:18:08 - Discussion on the Crucifixion of Jesus, his nature & his Preaching to the Gentiles 1:22:08 - Muhammad ﷺ being from the lineage of Abraham pbuh & God promising Ishmael a great nation 1:26:20 - Testing the reliability of the New Testament 1:31:46 - Evolution of Jesus's divinity in the Gospels 1:37:31 - Discussion on the Concept of Sacrifice & Forgiveness through Human Sacrifice in the Bible 1:42:56 - Discussion on Original Sin & Forgiveness 1:50:23 - Discussion on Trinity being confusing & Clarity of Islam 1:54:02 - Reasons for Omar not accepting Islam & brothers' response: Preservation of God's Scripture 1:58:24 - Discussion on the Unreliablity & inconsistencies in the Bible 2:14:12 - Infighting between Muslims after Muhammad's ﷺ death & its explanation 2:16:41 - Hindsite joins 2:17:27 - Bible containing some truth, its Unreliability & the message of Jesus 2:28:12 - Discussion on Jesus informing his disciples about his Resurrection & their reaction 2:34:24 - Qur'an containing the words of the Prophets & being the criterion 2:38:34 - Claim of Jesus being prophesied in the Old Testament & its refutation 2:39:59 - Where are Jesus & Elijah right now? 2:41:02 - Failed Prophecies in the Bible 2:44:31 - Discussion on the Issues with Christianity 2:52:25 - Analysis of the Corruption of the Bible & its numerous internal inconsistencies 3:03:52 - Quran asking Christians to judge by the Gospel & its explanation 3:06:25 - Reason for Romans crucifying Jesus & John the Baptist 3:11:10 - Christian Biblical Scholars accepting the Unreliablity of the Bible & still Believing in it 3:14:51 - Dawah to Jacob 3:16:57 - Christian Scholars who admit the corruption of the Bible 3:19:58 - Bible discrepancies changing the Doctrine of Christianity & evolution of Jesus & his teachings in the Gospels 3:23:35 - The Council of Jerusalem: Paul's teachings contradicting that of the Disciples 3:25:57 - Unreliablity of the Bible & lack of Non Christian Sources 3:29:29 - Not taking new guests 3:30:09 - Incident of Mason Greenwood 3:31:45 - Message to Christians 3:34:48 - Coming Up 3:35:41 - Banter & Wrapping Up SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️ Another Great Stream 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you all and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻
@Tislyfe
@Tislyfe 2 жыл бұрын
🙂🦾
@asadullahsaaid3794
@asadullahsaaid3794 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tislyfe جَزاكَ اللهُ خَـيْراً ☺️😊
@jackieramsbottom8392
@jackieramsbottom8392 2 жыл бұрын
Half %of corruption doesn't make the bible Unreliable. How does. Marks ending, johns adulterous woman and a single verse in 1 John effect a single belief or teaching of the christian faith.? Even Muslims favorite Bart Erhman said these variants have no effect of christian teaching. The lies of this panel are disgusting... But you all carry on please its this that's sending millions of Muslims to leave islam yearly..
@asadullahsaaid3794
@asadullahsaaid3794 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackieramsbottom8392 Awww 🥺 Look at this Desperate Hateful Islamophobe 🤮 Sour Grapes much ?? 😝 Remember Barking Dogs Seldom Bite Cope 👊🏻 Go back to your cesspool Troll 👋🏻
@jzlnz
@jzlnz 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackieramsbottom8392 Bart Erhman's View and finding aside, how can someone trust God's words 1) not known author? 2) clear contradictions 3) curruption = even you admit it happen. Rational and sincere person will not even associate the bible as God's words.
@parentforlife
@parentforlife 2 жыл бұрын
i like the fact that Nazam is talking more. he has a lot of knowledge about the bible
@slsa915
@slsa915 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t think of anyone with the exception of “maybe” Dr. Zakir Naik who knows more about the Bible than brother Nazambo. Not even a Bible scholar comes close. I wonder what got him started?
@prasg1186
@prasg1186 2 жыл бұрын
@@slsa915 Can't leave out Br Hashim the trinity destroyer!!
@gurutruthspeak598
@gurutruthspeak598 2 жыл бұрын
@@slsa915 Sheikh Ahmed Deedat(Rahimahullah).
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 2 жыл бұрын
He needs to be more assertive. The perfect combination would be for hamza to get a bit of nazams patience, and for nazam to get a lot of hamzas confidence
@slsa915
@slsa915 2 жыл бұрын
@@gurutruthspeak598 of course. The Godfather of Dawah.
@navm9991
@navm9991 2 жыл бұрын
Omar was exceptionally polite and he listened only if more Christians were like him may Allah SWT guide him
@Grindahmuzic
@Grindahmuzic 2 жыл бұрын
The Arrivals Doc is a great piece of work. It gave me respect for Islam and furthered my research and as of 2017 I reverted to this beautiful religion of Allah. 🤲🏼
@fatimaamier8262
@fatimaamier8262 2 жыл бұрын
Masha-Allah
@fatimaamier8262
@fatimaamier8262 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdullilah
@harryosbourne451
@harryosbourne451 2 жыл бұрын
Brother, just be careful of the Shia propaganda that is in there, don't let it deviate you. I used to be there myself way back in about 2010 or so when I watched the Arrivals, and it opened my eyes to Islam and many other things, but it also had many faults, including the Shia propaganda.
@shamkhan752
@shamkhan752 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah bless you and protect you, and grant you ease ameen
@Grindahmuzic
@Grindahmuzic 2 жыл бұрын
@@shamkhan752 Ameen. Thank you brother. May Allah bless and protect you as well.
@Diamondraw4Real
@Diamondraw4Real 2 жыл бұрын
When I reverted I didn't even really think about the claim about the Quran being perfectly preserved, I had read the verses but to me, basically the pure message was obvious and that was my main foucs while reading, to make sure that the message was clear. But in the bible there isn't just one message. Sometimes you think, why are ppl supporting genocides around the world, and then if you realize what the bible teaches. Besides worshipping god or maybe Jesus, you will be shocked what the other messages you get from the bible, claiming to be revelation. The underlying racism, the xenophobia, etc. And you realize why Islam is attacked and Muslims are killed worldwide even in Europe, and nobody bats an eye.
@shamkhan752
@shamkhan752 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said .
@EyeIn_The_Sky
@EyeIn_The_Sky 2 жыл бұрын
Frank uses the "I expect this argument from an Atheist, not a Muslim" card when he has no answers to the basic facts but then says that miraculous events in the Quran are "Red flags" which indeed is an Atheist argument.
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the arguments Hamza and the panel bring forward against the Bible are based on the work of atheists, who have been attacking the Bible for centuries. But whatever faults they find in the scriptures, the status of the Quran is far weaker. Islam claims the Quran was given to Muhammad by an angel, but that story is not even in the Quran. Muslims claim several perfect copies of the Quran were sent to the major cities by Uthman, yet none of these manuscripts can be found. You would think the Muslims, who were in charge of an empire, would have made the effort to preserve at least one. So yes, I while an atheist might attack Christianity over the scriptures, a Muslim does not have a leg to stand on.
@sharkyh7327
@sharkyh7327 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankszanto You don’t make any sense with respect. Why would the story of the Angel need to be in the Qur’aan if it’s the Angel who is giving the message, there is no obligation for that to be in the Qur’aan, it’s outside of the Qur’aan, also within there are clear references to the Angel jibril “bring this revelation” I’m paraphrasing here however that seems to link up to the Islamic historical narrative. We have authentic sources talking about the Angel giving the prophet (Sallalahu alayhi wassalam) revelation/scripture from Allah Azzawajal. In terms of manuscripts, we don’t NEED manuscripts as the Qur’aan has been orally transmitted, the bible whether it be old/new testament or all of it, hasn’t been hence NEEDS manuscripts as an authentication of preservation. The issue is though, we have manuscripts evidence aswell, the Birmingham manuscript even if it’s small corroborates with we have orally. Also Frank, with respect, I don’t think you’re equipped to have this conversation about Islamic manuscripts or Islamic history, it’s too deep for you. You need to study form academic scholars. I’ll give you a few, one is non Muslim in terms of manuscripts, the rasm and the uthman scripts, this is marijn van putten, and there are Muslims aswell, Angela neweth also I don’t if she’s Muslims or not but still, Try to do some research but again, we have Islamic traditions of manuscripts within 100/150 years, topkapi, sanaa etc. The main point is this though, the Qur’aan originally was an oral revelation and this is extant now. We have Ramadan coming up in a couple of months.
@shiroboo525
@shiroboo525 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankszanto You poor soul...You no innocent lamb..😊
@jageerdarjag3883
@jageerdarjag3883 2 жыл бұрын
Classic Frank, very sad to see how Christianity destroys intellect
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
@@jageerdarjag3883 Here I am showing you that the Quran contains myths that only simple and uneducated people could believe, and you bring up the topic of intellect?
@EpikMunk
@EpikMunk 2 жыл бұрын
Let me get this straight, Frank says the story of Dhul Karnayn is mythical because He travelled the land and built a wall out of iron which is impossible? But 500 people coming back from the dead and building a tiny boat that houses 2 of every animal in the world as well as dinosaurs to avoid a global flood is more plausible according to him 😂😂.
@tarequeali
@tarequeali 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind frank He’s a fruitcake He he
@MotivatingMemers
@MotivatingMemers 2 жыл бұрын
@@EpikMunk bro. Dead coming back to life, talking donkeys and walking at water is something I can accept. But building a wall? Now that's where I draw the line. Frank logic is bizarre.
@Ismail-Yahya
@Ismail-Yahya 2 жыл бұрын
3:25:49 Imagine waking up one day to realise that everything you ever believed was wrong! That’s not an easy pill to swallow, and surely it is a test from Allah the Almighty, as is life and death. May Allah swt make it easy for our Christian brothers and sisters. It is a test of sincerity to God alone and of faith. May Allah guide brother Jacob to Islaam. Ameen
@jackieramsbottom8392
@jackieramsbottom8392 2 жыл бұрын
That will be you whos going to wake and find youve been lied too on a truly staggering scale about my faith. Those Muslims who have been brave enough to check sources outside islam what they've been told by your teachers and apoligists find an unbelievable huge mountain of lies and deception..
@Ismail-Yahya
@Ismail-Yahya 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackieramsbottom8392 Hi Jackie, please do join the show next week! Honestly, I’m interested in what you would have to say and what sources/points you refer to. I’m confident any misconceptions about Islaam will be cleared up by the brothers. God alone is the One who Guides.
@smarttings6074
@smarttings6074 2 жыл бұрын
Please brothers talk about the kidnapping of Muslim children from their parents in Sweden, Germany, Italy, Canada and some other countries. These acts are done by a corrupted organization in Sweden (The Social organization) and the kids are taken from their parents by force and subjected to sexual assault, labor, etc. This is such an important topic to discuss and raise awareness of. PLS like this post to bring attention and hopefully they'll see it!
@MuhammadAli-wy6ku
@MuhammadAli-wy6ku 2 жыл бұрын
Can you post some link regarding this issues?
@gurutruthspeak598
@gurutruthspeak598 2 жыл бұрын
@45:18 "Frank do you believe penguins went on the Ark?" Savage question. Perfectly timed. I think he was traumatised by this.
@balidjoplayer
@balidjoplayer 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. 😂😂👌🏽
@shyneshiz
@shyneshiz 2 жыл бұрын
Frank can’t believe the story of Dhul Qarnain in the Quran but he believes in Christianity that says God is a man that came down to earth and got murdered by mere men🤣🤣🤣
@seanou2837
@seanou2837 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@GodisalwaysgoodW
@GodisalwaysgoodW 2 ай бұрын
not funny the way you portraying the glorious event. be respectful I thought Islam is religion of peace, but I don't see it
@daventry2
@daventry2 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant stream. God reward you and guide the people through you.
@alifiamd9963
@alifiamd9963 2 жыл бұрын
A scrap validating a whole manuscript lol...🤣🤣 Frank's on a whole new level of delusional
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't validate the whole manuscript, but is shows that the book was in existence in some form.
@EyeIn_The_Sky
@EyeIn_The_Sky 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and shows even that was a different version
@jageerdarjag3883
@jageerdarjag3883 2 жыл бұрын
I think Frank is now hoping somehow Christianity will become its old self by asking the same questions everytime, when nobody knew it and nobody could question it without being persecuted.
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
@@jageerdarjag3883 No, but I am hoping that Muslims will critically examine their own scriptures before attacking the gospels.
@aminaaden2921
@aminaaden2921 Жыл бұрын
@@frankszanto Take your own advice and apply it to your own books instead of criticizing Islam with double standards and bias like a typical christian
@peacenow6618
@peacenow6618 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
@Addakhel
@Addakhel 2 жыл бұрын
Frank, please show this stream to your wife, son, daughter or a close friend and ask them: was I a hypocriet with my arguments? I guarantee you the answer will be yes!
@alla3enalrasmi498
@alla3enalrasmi498 2 жыл бұрын
That'll be a RESOUNDING YES!
@asadullahsaaid3794
@asadullahsaaid3794 2 жыл бұрын
Brother Hamza: Why do you believe that the Family members of Frank are Reliable ? 😂🤣
@Addakhel
@Addakhel 2 жыл бұрын
@@asadullahsaaid3794 Even unreliable people will agree that Frank was a hypocrite!
@asadullahsaaid3794
@asadullahsaaid3794 2 жыл бұрын
@@Addakhel But they are Unreliable 🤔 Lol I'm just kidding 😂🤣
@Addakhel
@Addakhel 2 жыл бұрын
@@asadullahsaaid3794 Ask a cat and it will say meow meowwww, which means hell yeah that's hypocrisy! 🙀
@rrahman2752
@rrahman2752 2 жыл бұрын
today guests were civil. frank might be stubborn in his belief but he has been well mannered always.
@estonian44
@estonian44 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the timestamps
@HussainFahmy
@HussainFahmy 2 жыл бұрын
*_May Allah guide all those who seek the truth, Islam._*
@fahad055
@fahad055 2 жыл бұрын
Jazakom Allah Khair brothers .
@EyeIn_The_Sky
@EyeIn_The_Sky 2 жыл бұрын
"Behold, an Egg sandwhich"
@yesImAliveYeees
@yesImAliveYeees 2 жыл бұрын
almost all the conversations with Frank goes through the same trajectory (starts nice, try to defend Christianity and its nonsense, once fails he shifts it to Islam with his hypocritical claims and ends in a cringy way). BTW Mr Engineer when you come next time bring us a blueprint for an ark that can carry a pair of all animals on earth.
@alphabeginna3823
@alphabeginna3823 2 жыл бұрын
Great stream brothers, Jazakomullah Khairan.
@wisamy5286
@wisamy5286 2 жыл бұрын
MashAllah Brothers!!!! What another Great Stream 👍. Brother OMAR, you were so Respectful, and Genuine. Brother you are so close to Islam, MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU AND ALL OF US. AMEEN.💪
@safmaze9307
@safmaze9307 2 жыл бұрын
Hamza is the the JOE ROGAN of debating, spitting facts and just smashing it... no contest
@Btt8
@Btt8 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t insult Hamza
@homtanks7259
@homtanks7259 2 жыл бұрын
JazakAllahu khairan
@abdulazizmmks
@abdulazizmmks 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah bless you all..
@ALzzanam
@ALzzanam 2 жыл бұрын
جزاكم الله خيرا
@abdulazizmmks
@abdulazizmmks 2 жыл бұрын
امين يارب العالمين
@user-so5he3op1q
@user-so5he3op1q 2 жыл бұрын
Great show
@amalia512
@amalia512 2 жыл бұрын
MashaAllah Jazakumullahu khayr brothers , May Allah reward you guys & May Allah guide Omar, Hindsite & Jacob aameen allahumma aameen.
@happiethijab8694
@happiethijab8694 2 жыл бұрын
We miss the Dr, ijaz and sadat 💙💙💙
@AbdulmajedOt19
@AbdulmajedOt19 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah reward you brothers for such a noble work 🤲.
@bouberrita
@bouberrita 2 жыл бұрын
may allah guide you brother Omar
@vortexvampire
@vortexvampire 2 жыл бұрын
بارك الله فيكم... اللهم اغفر لأبي و ارحمه و اجمعنا معه في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين.. اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم.. رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين... لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين.......
@markdoughty8780
@markdoughty8780 2 жыл бұрын
Another intriguing upload...
@noorjamansarkar5501
@noorjamansarkar5501 2 жыл бұрын
More more better then other social networks
@peacenow6618
@peacenow6618 2 жыл бұрын
Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza
@AbdulmajedOt19
@AbdulmajedOt19 2 жыл бұрын
JAZAAAKUM ALLAH KAHIR My brothers. You make my EMMAN STRONG 💪😾.
@masterg7302
@masterg7302 2 жыл бұрын
EFDawah👍
@g7k993
@g7k993 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilah
@jn6676
@jn6676 2 жыл бұрын
In the arrivals series If you watch the last episodes they make reference to the 12ther shia understanding of who the ahlu bayt are and promote hizbullah as as future army of the true belivers etc. They also take subtle hits and abu bakr and umar
@freemadimi7017
@freemadimi7017 2 жыл бұрын
Salaam er dawah When you start ef dawah Afrika??
@thetraveller2698
@thetraveller2698 2 жыл бұрын
jazakallah..
@abdulparkar5500
@abdulparkar5500 2 жыл бұрын
Bro Rambo is on form on this stream. Good for you
@liljaa046
@liljaa046 2 жыл бұрын
@Lionheart L brilliant modding habibti
@muhammadadamghazali9522
@muhammadadamghazali9522 2 жыл бұрын
Guys..can u give link for the movies that u guys talk about..the arrival..
@kamelabdelgafar8545
@kamelabdelgafar8545 2 жыл бұрын
Christians often say that God's love is unconditional. Also that Jesus died for the sins of mankind. The floor is this: Did Jesus die for the sins of mankind? Is NOT believing in his crucifixion and resurrection also a sin? If so then we MUST believe in that and it is no longer unconditional love because we thrown in hell for this.
@seanou2837
@seanou2837 2 жыл бұрын
🤷‍♀
@AkMS0505
@AkMS0505 2 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulillah, I am a Muslim.
@ChupaChoddy
@ChupaChoddy 2 жыл бұрын
@ 2.56.06-07 this is the moment where you can actually hear a hair drop 😂😂😀😀
@raymaaf7516
@raymaaf7516 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where I can watch “The Arrivals”?
@abdiadenEST86
@abdiadenEST86 2 жыл бұрын
I see brother Sadat, I click. Simple.
@shaheengk5352
@shaheengk5352 2 жыл бұрын
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@slsa915
@slsa915 2 жыл бұрын
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ When we talk about oldest complete manuscripts from the 4th century, even if we consider that as little as 300 years after Jesus, I think we need to emphasize on how many generations that works out to. Even if we take one generation every 30-40 years, we are talking about 8 to 10 generations. That’s like someone believing something from the time of their great great great great great great great great grandfather having no oral tradition or written proof that they actually said that. With such modern recording techniques now, I don’t even know my great grandfathers name, let alone what his great great great great great grandfather said. It’s absurd and the number of generations should be highlighted.
@momonasri8611
@momonasri8611 2 жыл бұрын
Omar seems sincere brother may Allah swt guides him and his family too. Also sister Hindsite2020 sincere
@isleohagger5455
@isleohagger5455 2 жыл бұрын
Okay good job, Hamza, letting people talk, not yelling/talking over them any more.
@YahyaibnZaqariah
@YahyaibnZaqariah Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity! I know it is a question for the christians. I figured it would be interesting if a christian can answer this on the stream!! If the crucifixion is for the fall of man(adam and eve) why is there nothing until Jesus pbuh too rectify it???
@majorvita2627
@majorvita2627 Жыл бұрын
02:11:23, Omar. The whole time I was watching the arena, I was just looking at your name brother. Honestly, it makes cry. You don't know where you got your name from "Omar". May Allah guide you to truth, ameen.
@Jay-ks7ve
@Jay-ks7ve 2 жыл бұрын
Why would Jesus need to share Anything with Himself if there’s Only one God and Jesus is that One God ?
@hitogi06
@hitogi06 2 жыл бұрын
Why would The One God need to come down as a man to understand man if He is the One that created man in His own image?
@slsa915
@slsa915 2 жыл бұрын
I love Hamza to bits but he’s gotta calm down for a minute when Nazam tries to make a point. He keeps cutting him out.
@majorvita2627
@majorvita2627 Жыл бұрын
01:16:25, Omar, When an Imam recites Quran in prayers and makes a mistakes (unintentionally/ forgotten), people behind him make him correct him saying that particular word or line.
@sidrahman1776
@sidrahman1776 2 жыл бұрын
That cup of tea really set br hamza on fire poor carol. May allah guide her. Ameen
@christopherwells3426
@christopherwells3426 2 жыл бұрын
We're arguing over Frank's emotions but we're using intellectual arguments. You can't reason with a person who only deals an emotion. It's an emotional belief. In other words not an intellectual one.
@mahas4412
@mahas4412 2 жыл бұрын
Credit card size of manuscript 😵‍💫😵🥴🧐😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😔
@andrewcohen786
@andrewcohen786 2 жыл бұрын
Frank apply your logic of Bible preservation on a book say read by surgeons. Would you trust that surgeon if he read a book that has holes in it similar to the Bible?
@Stevececil777
@Stevececil777 4 ай бұрын
How I can come on your show
@mistermannan
@mistermannan 2 жыл бұрын
02:32:13 shots fired. Hahahaha 03:30:17 the rebuttal. Oof.
@Maher-h
@Maher-h 2 жыл бұрын
​˹Jesus˺ declared, “I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.SURAH MARYAM 30 ,This is what Jesus said in the Qur’an
@Nazam44
@Nazam44 2 жыл бұрын
Jazakumullah bil khair, for your efforts and intentions!
@jackieramsbottom8392
@jackieramsbottom8392 2 жыл бұрын
The Quran doesn't count. Its a book without a single shred, I mean absolutely not any archeolgical, written or historical evidence for islam pre Muhammed whatsoever. Its prophcey are weak and when read without tafsir dont make a lick of sense.
@cartooncat9559
@cartooncat9559 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackieramsbottom8392 go troll somewhere else
@Salika2019
@Salika2019 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackieramsbottom8392 so you talk a good talk in the comments section so why didn't have the courage to defen what you believe to the panel? It's clear to see that even know that Christianity has too many errors for it to be true.
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
This is supposed to have been said by a new born baby. Who heard him say it? Why is it that Jesus says almost nothing in the Quran, but his strongest statement was made when he was only days old. He seems to have become less confident after that.
@raymaaf7516
@raymaaf7516 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, Omar looks like Michael Vick lol 😃
@MarsVee123
@MarsVee123 2 жыл бұрын
He looks nothing like Michael Vick. I guess all Black people look alike to you
@raymaaf7516
@raymaaf7516 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarsVee123 WHAT?? Are you serious?? Man, you need to seriously shut the hell up with that stupid ignorant garbage!!! Why would you ever assume such a thing about me? Do you even KNOW me?!? I jokingly said it because in my eyes he resembles Mike Vick! Malcolm X (RA) said something that I’ll never forget…he said “never ASSUME anything, rather ALWAYS find out the facts”, and I think you should heed that advice as well! If you’re Muslim, then as a Muslim you should always have حسن الظن or think positively about your brothers and sisters unless they prove to you otherwise. Honestly man, how dare you? The more I’m reading your foolish comment the more I’m getting pissed off and offended!!
@raymaaf7516
@raymaaf7516 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarsVee123 If you really are Muslim, then you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
@raymaaf7516
@raymaaf7516 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarsVee123 You got a real negative thinking mind and you better clean that up, brother… I NEVER even brought up race or even THOUGHT of race AT ALL, WALLAHI I didn’t!! Is this the behavior of a Muslim? May Allah SWT guide you…
@STALWARTSal
@STALWARTSal 2 жыл бұрын
WalaiKum Asalam
@nargis751
@nargis751 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like hindsight 2020 is open to the truth and in hindsight probably thinks she should’ve accepted Islam a long time ago! Well done brothers almost there
@BrawUmad
@BrawUmad Жыл бұрын
Apocrypha are works, usually written, of unknown authorship or of doubtful origin.
@iswallbanoo9843
@iswallbanoo9843 2 жыл бұрын
Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johnessburg pray 5 times a day
@YahyaibnZaqariah
@YahyaibnZaqariah 6 ай бұрын
If JesusPBUH was telling everyone during his time and they new it. Why would they even go too the Tomb to anoint the body with spices etc??
@alikkk824
@alikkk824 Жыл бұрын
47.26 noas flood made me remember Mrs browns boys and the Mormons.
@andrewcohen786
@andrewcohen786 2 жыл бұрын
Hindsight 2020 has become a regular as well like Frank .Hopefully she will see the light and come to the religion of Prophets aka Islam.
@worshipperofallah1
@worshipperofallah1 2 жыл бұрын
King Cyrus was "Dhul Qarnayn". you can Read About Dhul Qarnayn in the Bible.
@akmaljonqosimzoda8909
@akmaljonqosimzoda8909 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering why brother Abbas doesn't grow beard according to sunnah🙂.
@Chandransingham
@Chandransingham 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear. Errors again. Hamza should read Sidney H Griffith's The Bible in Arabic (Princeton 2013) to get a proper hand on the scriptures of the people of the book in the language of Islam. This was reviewed in Blogging Theology by Paul Williams. Arabic Bible existed in some form to support the Quran. Griffith also names the three dominant Christian sects resident in Arabia on page 9 of the book. They were Melkites, Jacobites and Nestorians. Their theologies were some what removed from the main stream Christianity in the west. Good that Jacob can now start his research and studies in Australia. He can lean on scholars like Samuel Green, Tracey Rowland etc.
@mahas4412
@mahas4412 2 жыл бұрын
Unreliable source after Unreliable source!!
@t3ucy
@t3ucy 2 жыл бұрын
Abbas's intelligence is on a different level! Ma sha Allah Then comes along Hamza with his questions on penguins and polar bears! Get rid of him, please
@ahmadhusainiidris1409
@ahmadhusainiidris1409 2 жыл бұрын
Frank -To build a wall is a myth -To build a ship to place 2 animal of every species is true Yep. Certified hypocrite here.
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
Who told Noah to build the ark and told him how to do it? (See Genesis 6:11-22). And who gave Dhul Qarnayn the power to build a wall that would last to the end of time? How did he even collect the materials? There is no mention that God was involved.
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
@Sani Malik Are you blind SanI? Allah is not mentioned in this passage - except in brackets. I am not sure who the WE are, but as it is a plural, I am pretty sure it cannot be the One God.
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
@Sani Malik Yes, human kings try to make themselves seem more than just a man by referring to themselves as "we". As if they represent a dynasty or something. But if being ONE is so important, why would God try to puff himself up as plural. This is the craziest, most contradictory thing about Islam.
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
@Sani Malik So many words, and no content. Allah is not mentioned in the passage. The "We" could be the trinity for all we know. There is no getting out of this. Why does Allah want to make out he is plural? So he can be more eloquent? It is all just words.
@Toronado2
@Toronado2 2 жыл бұрын
​ @Sani Malik YES! Frank Szanto is a Christian. Who believes that their GOD became a MAN and then they HAD to Kill Him so that they can have their SINS Forgiven. Smart move on their part.
@blessedfavoured2844
@blessedfavoured2844 4 ай бұрын
Brother Frank, as our Heavenly Father has t 2 Timothy 2:23-24 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil.
@HussainFahmy
@HussainFahmy 2 жыл бұрын
@candicezerafa1269
@candicezerafa1269 11 ай бұрын
Bilnd is part of the test that's the reason brother abbas 🏳☝🇸🇩
@tahaakhlaq84
@tahaakhlaq84 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the part where hamza gets angry
@hayesahallus2500
@hayesahallus2500 2 жыл бұрын
So many remnants of Scriptures all over the place during Jewish period then they themselves have many sub books created then Christians also have thousands of scriptures all over the place n they accept some n reject some n hence create division n sects n build a doctrine of paganistic beliefs under the guise of one monotheistic God! That shows the confused scenario of truth from a God! The only faithful religion which has a consistent book the Holy Quran which has not been changed for 1400 odd years to the last letter n read every minute of the day by millions of all races all over the world n amazingly due to Its consistency in Its contents able to memorise the whole book by even children shows the miraculous preserved nature in one unified reading n understanding! This is a living proof of ' the Word of God' n He is not an author of confusion n his Words r flawless!
@raiyaanmahmud7680
@raiyaanmahmud7680 2 жыл бұрын
Kick out frank out.
@andrewcohen786
@andrewcohen786 2 жыл бұрын
Omar come to Islam that's the way of the Prophets including our beloved Jesus and Muhammad.
@gherieg.1091
@gherieg.1091 2 жыл бұрын
*⭕️There’s NO JESUS us Isiam‼️* The Isa of the Quran is NOT Jesus. The Lord Jesus was resurrected, Your Isa, Mohamed wrote, never even died. NOT THE SAME PERSON.
@andrewcohen786
@andrewcohen786 2 жыл бұрын
@@gherieg.1091 Quran is the final authority . The Old Testament and New Testament can’t be relied upon. There may be remnants of truth but not all. Jesus is mentioned 25 times in the Quran and he denies being God or son of God. There is a full chapter devoted to his great Mother no other book that you may claim is from God glorifies this pious lady.
@andrewcohen786
@andrewcohen786 2 жыл бұрын
Muhammad couldn’t read or write.
@gherieg.1091
@gherieg.1091 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcohen786 😁 How cute when you say “remnants of Truth in the Bible”. You want to play it both ways‼️‼️ Disparage, reject parts of the Bible that the Quran DOESN’T UNDERSTAND ... yet at the same time mine the Bible for verses that seem to indicate, or that you twist the interpretation of to make it seem, that Mohamed has a point worth a dime ! Which he doesn’t !! ... because the Quran is His own work. No angel, no deity of any sort involved. Clearly !! He sure the Quran himself. Surah 18:86 others that definitively. The Lord Jesus is NEVER mentioned in the Quran. You’re talking about Isa. That’s NOT the Lord Jesus. Different bios. This mentions of “Jesus and Mary” supposedly in the Quran is Mohamed’s sly and cunning trick whereby he attaches the fortunes of Islam tightly to Christianity. AND THAT’S THE ONLY THING ISLAM HAS EVER HAD GOING FOR IT, IS that FAKE ATTACHMENT TO THE BIBLE AND CHRISTIANITY.
@gherieg.1091
@gherieg.1091 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcohen786 The Quran is NO authority. The Bible is the ETERNAL Word of God. That’s why you Muslims bow to the Bible all the time by trying to use it to justify Islam. The Bible NEVER LOOKS TOWARD THE DIRECTION OF THE QURAN ... ever‼️ You can’t do without the Bible ! I can walk away from the Quran anytime, easy. Come to Jesus is the solution for you. You can’t win from over there. Jesus is Lord. God bless you. ☦️💙🙂
@briemuss05
@briemuss05 2 жыл бұрын
Hazma you haven’t got a clue! The passage doesn’t say they would see Jesus coming on the clouds! It’s says they would see Son of Man coming in His kingdom or another way of translating it is his royal power or all his glory. This is exactly what happened during the Transfiguration. That’s exactly what they saw. The lady in the video was spot-on! Muslims always think they have won an argument because they change what the bible actually says. It doesn’t mention coming on the clouds.
@mohammedahmad8039
@mohammedahmad8039 2 жыл бұрын
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@Jay-ks7ve
@Jay-ks7ve 2 жыл бұрын
What a pathetic thing to say . 😳🤣 God did not intervene Every time someone made an errors ( acc to Xtians ) in His Book ? 1. Perhaps God was too busy and cannot do two things in one go . 2. God didn’t care that His word has errors people are going to believe . Or simple Frank is off his trolley as usual ! ✌️❤️
@ChupaChoddy
@ChupaChoddy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice lady,, he eya Oven but hard is not 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@Just_logic
@Just_logic 2 жыл бұрын
When is enough to have Frank??
@Tislyfe
@Tislyfe 2 жыл бұрын
Last year in my opinion 😐
@Kanoga635
@Kanoga635 2 жыл бұрын
Its good we have him..shows us complete arrogance ..anyway i prefer giving him a fixed place on the panel so when a christian joins they can show the world no 2 christians are the same.
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kanoga635 Sunni & Shia the same? Ahmadiyya the same? Quranist?
@humanchain4706
@humanchain4706 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome Frank
@Just_logic
@Just_logic 2 жыл бұрын
@@hereweare9096 not the same. Different Christian’s references are different scriptures. All sects of Muslims have the same reference. The Quran. This is fundamental.
@realislam202
@realislam202 2 жыл бұрын
Where in Abbas is it written in Zulqurnan story its says gog mogag were restricted until the day of judgment? Please dont spread wrong information abiut islam Abbas,
@chocolatte9459
@chocolatte9459 Жыл бұрын
Frank is unbelievable.
@iiparachuteregiment8800
@iiparachuteregiment8800 2 жыл бұрын
If you start letting Muslims on then you will have 1 non Muslim on the show! People will target your religion regardless of you being nice and advising him that there is another show. I have started listening to the quran in Arabic translation in English. I have few issues with some verses. But I'm sure there is a good explanation to that.
@MuhammadAli-wy6ku
@MuhammadAli-wy6ku 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectvreply from Abbas to Frank at 43.00 Frank is irrational and bias. It just shows insincerity
@blessedfavoured2844
@blessedfavoured2844 4 ай бұрын
To brother Frank. 4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
@sondrameyer2816
@sondrameyer2816 2 жыл бұрын
John The Baptist preached against Herod because he had married his brother's wife which was against Jewish law. I find it fascinating that the Christians that come on to depend their theology never, never, never, can quote the Gospel or the verse or the scholar to defend their position. The Muslims on this panel on the other hand can quote line and verse from the Bible all day long. Go figure. If the Christians actually read the Bible and understood the words they probably would not be Christian because the church doesn't preach what the Bible does teach. Know Oh Israel, the Lord Our G-d is ONE!
@mahas4412
@mahas4412 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid assumption to establish link between Quran and the old scripture hoping to save their scripture or sink our quran!! Hard luck, next time come up with a smarter trick 😂😂
@mdrasheduzzaman5139
@mdrasheduzzaman5139 2 жыл бұрын
Thos who changes jot and title will be not welcomed in heaven
@sufyana411
@sufyana411 2 жыл бұрын
Please don’t let Frank on anymore. He can never prove his points. And when you have him pinned on a subject he brings up the Quran.
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
Of course I bring up the Quran. The panel is attacks the Bible and claims that the Quran is superior. But you don't need to be a scholar to see that it contains mythical stories. The difficulties with the Bible text are minor compared to those with the Quran.
@parentforlife
@parentforlife 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankszanto Its Just a tactic to get the pressure of of you when you are cornerd everyone watching can see how much you are judging the Quran differently from the bible. in the beginning when u used to come on i. realy thought that you were a sincere and honest human being. well i suppose u hid your true colors for a couple of months but the truth has to come out even if takes a lifetime
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
@@parentforlife I have never hidden the fact that I am a Christian and that I think Islam is totally wrong. I see the panel here opposing the word of Jesus. That makes them anti-Christ. I try to warn them and all Muslims of the consequences of opposing Jesus. If we get back to looking a Revelation, you will see the fate of those who oppose Christ.
@parentforlife
@parentforlife 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankszanto i didnt say you hid the fact that you are a Christian. everybody knew that from the beginning. The dishonesty is what makes the viewers get tired of you coming on. although i think that you are doing something good even with your insincere approach and the bad accusations towards Islam. the viewers learn a lot from the hypocrisy and lying from your part I think you should worry more about your fate as a christian when Jezus returns at his second coming...
@frankszanto
@frankszanto 2 жыл бұрын
@@parentforlife Jesus will judge those who opposed his word and tried to substitute something else.
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