The Orange Pi NEO Is The Newest Cheaper RYZEN 8000 Linux Handheld! New Info

[@anonytuser711]

This ticks all the boxes for me- AMD graphics, Linux, $600 base price. I can't wait.

[@JZF629]

Just missing that OLED. If it had it even at $700, this could quite possibly be the one

[@jakoick1298]

if they went with OLED they wouldn't be able to bring the base price to 499%

[@asian_raisin]

Yep. Putting this on my watch list to see how it turns out.

[@christianmino3753]

AND a 120HZ screen. Oh goodness, it's going to be a nice product. I'm actually interested in it, and I haven't been that interested in any of the other handheld recently.

[@spectralknights2]

$500 base price, not 600

[@Karti200]

The more i see linux handhelds comming out thanks to Valve SteamDeck the more i am wondering, what will Valve give us with SteamDeck 2.0

[@ZaberfangX]

They said they will, until they are happy with the next APU with better battery life with new tech, as they will customize there APU again I bet as it worked out for them.

[@Karti200]

@@ZaberfangX that is great to hear - cuz it was already proven many times that going 8Core on CPU for handhelds like that is pointless - same with massive increase of GPU CU Even with all its "handicups" Steam Deck is still best handheld with very low power draw - compared to other handhelds i am curious what kind of new APU they will make with AMD (or Intel or Nvidia) for next thing and i hope they will stick to "900p gaming" cuz its already proven that going 1080p or higher on those is just poitnless

[@ZaberfangX]

@@Karti200 don't know what they will make , I bet won't be faster whats out there but power draw whats important to them a lot, if anything I bet be a 6 core.

[@oo--7714]

@@Karti200 don’t you mean 720p/800p. It isn’t 900p.

[@Bootchair]

We won’t see steam deck 2 for a while. We will see a steam deck “pro” or another revision

[@landengoodner9841]

The reason I'm excited for this one is because of the Linux type OS. Many people don't like windows on small handheld gaming PCs so if this OS is really good, this might become one of the best gaming PC handhelds in the future. We shall see.

[@sudoo6987]

Can you play windows games on Linux, like visual novels for windows?. Or will we need a windows emulator. Sorry Im new to this hobby

[@landengoodner9841]

@@sudoo6987 I'm new to this as well. I do know that steam os for the steam deck is Linux based as well and the only way to access windows is to completely change the os.

[@landengoodner9841]

@@sudoo6987 however I'm not 100 percent sure

[@kiloneie]

@@sudoo6987 The vast majority of games work via Steam's proton. Those that aren't in there, also work most of the time via WINE, i've tried a more obscure game via WINE personally and it just worked, with some crashes here and there, but you will usually save a lot in such games anyways. The only REAL problem are multiplayer games with anti-cheat. Sometimes people make them work on linux for for example League of Legends(launching the game is SLOW AS HELL, but the client works normal, just don't change resolution mid game, you will get an offset of every UI element), but it takes time, so a new game with a new anti-cheat will NOT work.

[@PomuLeafEveryday]

​@@sudoo6987steam on linux comes with proton which will emulate windows games for you, same as how it works on steam deck

[@thetower8553]

I do appreciate you covering stuff related to our preferred OS.

[@deuxforever13]

I dunno why, but between the deck, ally, legiongo and now thr claw, this device looks the nicest. I love how it looks compact and portable.

[@rushmore3927]

I turn into a pumpkin for anything over $400 dealing with overseas orders and support. Deck OLED and Ally for PC will do.

[@CrystallineLore]

The Deck 2 is when this space will really blow up. The original Deck launched immature and was clearly testing the waters. Now, in addition to all the teething stuff they learned, the Deck 2 is set to really blow minds in one or two years.

[@bgeezus3955]

I am wholly convinced if I was to buy the ally they'd drop the ally 2 within 3 weeks or I'd have one already 😭😭

[@cosmicgamingunlimited]

@@bgeezus3955please dont buy one. I just recorded an update this week and I would really like to continue that trend.

[@mrman6035]

​@@bgeezus3955 and prices are dropping every few months too. I wouldn't be surprised at how low it'll go once Black Friday happens.

[@brandonybarra6595]

​@@bgeezus3955yeah but tbh thats the tech world across the board though. constantly evolving. so if you used your logic you might as well never buy tech cuz something better will always be around the corner. personally i just buy stuff used. then im not investing near as much into something that might be obsolete down the road. only paid 400 for my rogally z1x with 100 bucks in accessories. and i will play this thing until it no longer works. gotta learn to appreciate what you got yah know?

[@Nick-hz9no]

When you get one of these, what I'd like to see is higher end emulation. So Wii, PS3, 3DS. Specifically DS and touchscreen stuff.

[@yorugua2001]

I'm also a fan of manjaro, I've been using it as my daily driver for years

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

I enjoy my Steam Deck so much, I forgot my iPhone SE 2022 earlier today at home and I need it for work. Obviously, I went back home to get my iPhone as I’m typing this comment from it. I’ve never been so attached to a gaming device since maybe my PSP or PS1? Steam Deck has literally been my DAILY driver that I use it even more than my daily driver smartphone at times. Now what if I finally beat FF7 Remake? Would I play the Steam Deck as frequently again? Maybe not. Maybe I’m only using it so much now because I finally got to play Shenmue III and FF7 Remake that I never got a chance to play them on my PS4 nearly a half decade ago. But I believe I will continue to game on the Deck long after I beat FF7R. And if I’m bored with gaming, it can still be used for KZbin and Netflix. It can still act like a laptop. I use my Deck so much, my brand new Switch Lite which I got two weeks prior to my Deck has been collecting dust. I might play the occasional Mario Kart 8 Deluxe race but that’s it. Same with my modded Vita, modded PSP, and all my Android smartphones. I recently charged all my Android smartphones because all their batteries had died thanks to only being on standby mode while never being used. I do wonder what the next Steam Deck will be? Valve makes a Deck to serve as a baseline for all PC handhelds. The next Deck doesn’t need to be super powerful. With indies being more fun and being released more frequently than AAA titles, what’s the point having all that power? I wouldn’t be surprised if the Deck 2 is only on par to the base PS5. Even slightly lower teraflops than the ROG Ally Z1 Extreme. Powerful performance is great to have but not if it means sacrificing power efficiency. No point owning a handheld that only offers an hour of battery life. And AAA titles seems to be dying out. Too risky to spend all that money while taking 4-5 years to make it. I look at current indies like 16-bit/32-bit gen games but with more modern graphics. Fun and highly replayable. More playing, less watching. Steam Deck changed the game. It wasn’t the first PC handheld. We had many PC handhelds during the mid 2010s. But Steam Deck is responsible for making PC handhelds becoming more mainstream thanks to the far more affordable price and Valve’s already established ecosystem and fanbase that supports other users. It’s like what iPhone and Android did for smartphones. Changed the industry forever. Prior to the Deck, you were paying $1200+ for a PC handheld. There’s no ROG Ally and Legion Go without the Steam Deck. And Valve seems to love their fans unlike a company based in Kyoto, Japan.

[@hamimabd]

Yeah. Aaa games nowadays just not worth it anymore, a lot of them at least. Big companies getting more greedy and deliver subpar products. Indie and old games is where it's at

[@xSavagepr]

PC Gaming needs to evolve and release itself from the shackles of Windows OS. Steam should develop Steam OS for PCs and these new handelds.

[@kiloneie]

I sure as hell can't wait for it. I love Arch and it's wiki, but holy cow do i hate those updates... miss a few, have fun saving your system. Steam OS would im 99% sure fix all of that, and all of the beginner problems, QoL etc.

[@thesidneychan]

The two touch pads are tempting. Would be even better if they had back programmable buttons. Some ps2 games use pressure sensitive face buttons, so the ability to emulate that by holding down a back button helps alot.

[@MrAlanMacdonald]

As the father of two young kids, I've loved my Steam Deck. I play it handheld when I take my eldest son to karate every week and use it as my main gaming device, docked. I have a dock in the living room and another in the sun room so I can seamlessly move between depending on whether I can get access to the living room 😂. I was never getting away with having an enormous console / desktop sitting around and it doesn't offer the flexibility I need. It's a great setup, but the main issue is wanting more horsepower. Many games run really well but recently I've been playing loads of Hell Divers 2 and I've had to turn the graphics relatively low to get good frame rates. As strange as it sounds, if the deck had another connector I'd genuinely have bought a powerful eGPU to boost it when docked. Something I can pack away when not in use so the area is clear for the family. The Neo is interesting because of the extra base performance. I think I'll make sure my next device can support an eGPU. I know it's not optimised and can be throttled by CPU / bandwidth etc, but I just need flexibility / portability and something to boost performance when playing more demanding games docked, on the glorious big screen.

[@MrAlanMacdonald]

I should add, I thought combining steam deck as a handheld with GeForce Now Ultimate or priority when docked was the answer, but lots of games including Hell Divers 2 aren't available on that platform. Which is a shame as it would be a great setup and not need an eGPU or upgrading to a newer handheld as often.

[@Lachlan.N93]

if they dont send you a sample unit to try out they are out of their minds! would love to see your hands on this device

[@brandonrobinson3829]

So he can shill it and gloss over the negatives.

[@howardlam6181]

really nice to see the competition has driven the price down

[@christopher480]

hopefully orange pi will grasp the concept that ppl speak english.......i bought one of the orange pi boards but returned it due to the horrendous experience of trying to install an os on it.

[@ImJustPassingThrough]

This is partially their habit of releasing products and providing almost no followup support. I'd wait for very in depth reviews (not just game benchmarks) before even considering this.

[@notepadplusplus4923]

​@@ImJustPassingThrough yeah, I'm gonna have to wait for 1st day reviews and prolonged use reviews.

[@HoloScope]

jeez

[@buckysrevenge]

I am mostly curious about Manjaro gaming edition as well, i have the Em780 from minisforum which has the 7840U with 32GB and ChimeraOS runs great on it

[@DS-pk4eh]

Same here

[@kiloneie]

If it's actually not rolling and they don't do mistakes like they did in the past(Manjaro has a BAD track record), then it could be great. Though mixing Manjaro's packages with AUR is a nightmare... im done with rolling release Arch based distros, if i don't update all the time, e.g. play a new multiplayer game on release, i have to use Windows, and then when i return, complications with updating every damn time... Last time it borked my system, and a reinstall then borked my Windows... I love the Arch wiki, and just the sheer amount of packages, but updating is a nightmare...

[@AyaWetts]

not sure the trackpads are in a good spot... but it looks promising. Cant wait to check this out!

[@alanandfriends-s2o]

Any trackpads are better than no trackpads, but I agree they look awkwardly placed.

[@notepadplusplus4923]

I think there's no other place to put it without copying steam deck or making the device larger/longer

[@richardfarmer6570]

I'm curious to see you do a comparison between the 7840U and the 8840U and see if it really performs the same while using less power. That would be a huge plus for a handheld.

[@DS-pk4eh]

8840U should just have new, better NPU unit for AI tasks, everything else basically the same.

[@xphyle]

Aren't the 7840U and the 8840U virtually identical in performance numbers, with the 8840U only having onboard AI capabilities?

[@keemmaanz1985]

correct. imagine paying $100 for something not useful in gaming . unless it can offer better upscaling than maybe it might be worth it

[@Prodbytocile]

nah

[@legart4507]

16 gb of unified ram. This is just ridiculous, given all the experience from rog ally and other handhelds

[@jotinhafilho5920]

Is just like the Steam Deck

[@mysterio7807]

You mean shared RAM, right?

[@liamconverse8950]

If you want to play games that require 16 gig vram or something just stick to desktop imo. But also according to their website they do have a 32 gig option

[@oo--7714]

@@mysterio7807 yea and honestly the criticism is too weird, laptop at this price range do not have 32 gigs of ram. If you wanna pay 1000 dollars for it sure, but eeehhh.

[@jakoick1298]

​@@liamconverse8950not to mention these GPU's aren't capable to handle a 16gb vram consuming game

[@jamescampbell6728]

I really like Orange Pi as a company. We need more linux adoption in this space. Also they are strengthening the open source ecosystem by sponsoring Manjaro Gaming edition. Windows is a complete dead end until Microsoft makes it easier to add custom software and optimize it for handhelds

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

Whoever called eta prime making a video in the comment section of some website on just the news of the orangepi, you were right

[@CyborgZeta]

At least this one has trackpads, unlike the majority of Deck competitors.

[@herrnobody6714]

thanks a lot for the info!

[@Housestationlive]

it's planned to be released before the end of june! cool alternative to steam deck, joystick placement, better hardware, more transparency with the hardware, probably more repeasrability also. cool cool cool cool. i'ml gonna have some headaches to configure linux 😂 actually even for emulation it's better than the pocket devices i saw, cause n64/gamebcube needs more than just directional pad and 4 buttons.

[@kewlztertc5386]

Unless this is carried by a large retailer, i don't see it being a smash. Especially considering you'll soon be able to buy a MSI Claw for under $200 (clearance sale).

[@gdjaybee742]

I hope Lenovo brings out their device competing with this. I love the way they mimic the Switch, and have a Ryzen 8xxx series CPU and a 2280 NVME slot would be awesome as you can get a 4tb NVME for 200 bucks.

[@kdubspencer3390]

I'm definitely buying this it's like I'm combining my Loki max and legion go but improving performance due to the 32GB ram option.

[@Emulation_Inflation]

Oh i just got the S500+ R7-7840HS 4tb morefine, and that ran $700 so yeah thats a good deal.

[@MugiMo510]

At this point, I'm only concerned about repairability and replacement parts. The dual track pads are a massive check mark for me as well.

[@fuzzymuppet1990]

A littlrpe off topic but heve they not made a 10 inch tablet with a 7840u or z1 extreme.. with windows 11 , i would love to get one for music production along with my midi keyboard. Stick it on a sheet music stand behind the keyboard and use it just for music production

[@OpenLogicEFI]

This seems like a very interesting move for OrangePi. I have used their SBC's in the past and haven't had any hardware quality issues but they have never had good software support. For example I I have downloaded images for their own SBC's from them that just simply didn't work. Some of the images that did work the OS's were cobbled together and even the term "worked" was questionable. I am not trying to spin doubt but am being hopeful that they have learned from these mistakes. Maybe it's best to have any software outsourced or better yet design the device to be compatible with off the shelf software because like I said above, their hardware is fine. I think 2 of my garage automation modules are original orange pi lite? They gotta be 6 or 8 years old by now and run 24/7 in a plastic case I have't cleaned once. Probably should do that lol.

[@HoloScope]

which is exactly why their jumping on the portables game. They needed something to spice up their brand. They're probably going to slowly phase out support in less than a year.

[@versusforward]

seems pretty slick!

[@steaksoldier]

Finally, REAL steam deck competition. No more over priced nonsense.

[@chromerims]

Wow, so simple and straight genius 👍🔥 ALPM-free (arch linux pkg mgr, pacman) O/S with flatpaks, immutable dependencies and Steam OOBE is an elegant solution. Mixing business with pleasure, one could DD function the SSD, then copy the Manjaro Gaming ISO into Ventoy side-by-side with others, and voila! . . . a perfect "mullet" handheld PC . . . (work up front, party in the back). Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.

[@CrystallineLore]

Man, I wonder whose homework they copied.

[@itsdeonlol]

Looks nice!

[@TonyJ1776]

I can't see buying this vs a Steam Deck. They would have to bring more to the "game" than just a Linux handheld.

[@csolisr]

I was worried about the device not including any additional back buttons to e.g. control the gyroscope - but fortunately it does include a pair of buttons next to the triggers. Not ideal, but it will make do.

[@FLABrowncoat]

Okay, this model is actually kinda cool.

[@CRYPTiCEXiLE]

yeah i saw this on the manjaro page looks interesting ... great to see ur into linux computing ... im glad i sub u ... i like ur content for all the great reviews, but ur also into linux which is cool. :)

[@DonaldWyman]

This sounds awesome except for the manjaro part... I would rather it be running almost any Linux distro other than Manjaro, but I am assuming once it comes out we can always just install something like Chimara or something like that.

[@RedBullAddict-_-]

8840u for me also upgrade to 2tg, hopefully slightly smaller than deck and on sale in uk

[@Leopez02]

The Orange Pi NEO looks really powerful and beautiful handheld gaming pc, it's nice how cheap it is only as 499€, I just only hope it's not Cloud Streaming Handheld, then I can buy and try that. It's so awesome to be a Handheld gamer/nerd/fan. 😮😊

[@Phoenix_1991]

It's $499 and could become more if it's without tax. So it could be €599 here or something similar.

[@ricky865]

You don't have to worry, It is not a streaming handheld. It will use Majaro Linux gaming edition as its Operating Sistem so it is a full on handheld PC.

[@oo--7714]

@@Phoenix_1991 even then it is way cheaper than a rog ally. And closer to the steam deck oled €569.

[@Leopez02]

Yay, i'm so glad it's not a Streaming console. 😊​@@ricky865

[@Leopez02]

As the Same Price with a ps5😊@@Phoenix_1991

[@Oblique0]

I thought they were developing handheld with rk3588 processor

[@christianmino3753]

I would love to use that Manjaro gaming spin on my living room PC instead of Bazite if it's actually as good as Steam OS

[@glsracer]

It seems like great value at 499. I barely ever play my Steamdeck anymore so I probably won't get one of these.

[@allenfrisch]

Sounds a little too good to be true. Too many unknowns: is the manufacturer trustworthy? Is this just a limited “introductory” preorder price? Does the OS work well? Will games be properly optimized? Etc. etc.! See what I mean? But I HOPE it’s a true competitor to the Steam Deck!! Competition benefits us all!

[@joeybeta]

Most of these are allegedly not "unknowns" with a little reading into their site/q&a/wiki/etc. As far as games being "optimized", that's on the developer + how well it works on Proton(handled by Valve), neither of which have to do directly with the hardware unless there is a game specific feature that makes use of it. At best, Manjaro may have system adjustment options built in the OS in the same vein that Valve does with Steam OS if specific games need to be tweaked for specific performance settings.

[@allenfrisch]

@@joeybeta Joey, the release of similar handhelds like the Claw show that you can't always trust specs. And Ayaneo has pulled the bait and switch routine more than once by announcing a seductive price and then changing it once a certain number of units are sold at a loss. So I stand by what I said: we just have to wait and see. I am NOT definitively claiming this is a scam or anything.

[@joeybeta]

@@allenfrisch The Claw was an edge case of multiple isolated issues that stemmed from its design choices that was never meant to mix n match well for its price point. Going with Intel's current CPU offering was never going to work out as efficiently this generation when compared to its competition that makes it not worth the price to efficiency. AYANEO makes it very apparent that their introductory prices are a part of their early campaigns and something they've done with most of their products to my knowledge. I doubt this is a case of a bait n switch if the info is there in plain sight. The Orange Pi handheld in this case has not made mention of any early bird campaigns like the other guys and have already announced their pricing along with an estimated quarter release not too far from now if that's anything to go by. You'd think they would've launched an early bird campaign by now if you'd equate sales practices to ayaneo. I do want to add that I'm also not a fan of ayaneo by the meret of its base price point value amongst other minor nitpicks I have with them. Just wanted to state some comparisons, which brings me more confidence in this Orange Pi x Manjaro collaboration more than anything for trying something a little different than ayaneo.

[@zora_tech]

So what's the difference between a 7840U and 8840U since searching online all I could find is that they are the exact same processor with the same performance. I was only able to find one post that indicated that the 7840U has a higher GPU clock speed that the 8840U. Also I do like that they have dual trackpads since I use them a lot for retro gaming but for modern gaming I tend to use the back buttons quite a bit. So for me personally other companies only really compete with the steam deck for modern games since they include back buttons but this one only really competes with retro games. I personally would love to see a new handheld device that has four back buttons and at least 1 trackpad, in order for it to truly compete against the steam deck.

[@jakoick1298]

8840 is slightly faster than 7840 about 5-8fps difference

[@zora_tech]

@@jakoick1298 so in other words not really worth the $100 price jump. I mean if it was maybe an additional 20-30 fps maybe that would make sense but 5-8 fps is not really worth it.

[@Gabilleta]

​@@zora_tech5 to 8 fps improvement is actually pretty good considering they are basically the same APU but one has an NPU for AI. They both are still using the same 780m iGPU. Games that would have ran under 30 FPS on the 7840, can now run over 30 FPS with the very similar TDP.

[@gamezerge1229]

Manjaro is avaible for stuff like rog ally right?

[@TicoDK]

You can install any linux distribution provided the bootloader is not super locked. AMD uses open source drivers on the linux kernel so driverwise will not be too behind the official drivers on windows. Things like controller and bluetooth/wifi might require workarounds or might not work at all.

[@lars309]

It will need good Community support

[@liamconverse8950]

The OS they're using is pretty interesting. I just wonder if it could hang with the Steam Decks chip when it come to battery life

[@jonathanhaney9235]

A cheaper OneXFly with trackpads. Hopefully its not as unbalanced weight wise and has better customer support otherwise im cool waiting for an Ally 2. Unless AMD has some kind of breakthrough with power efficiency I expect incremental 10-20% performance bumps per gen at 15W TDP. What I would like to see is a real BIOS so we can tune things like core count, memory, undervolting etc. I enjoy trying to squeeze a few more fps out of my games as tuning is a mini game itself.

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

Any news on the Pocket S?

[@Dragonopolis]

on the watch list.... Glad they are offer 32GB DDr5. I have min of 16GB memory in my Computers since 2010. A may up my minimum to 32GB for PCs 2025 and later......

[@seitostockman]

glad they got rid of the orange triggers and dpad on the white model. I hated how the white ayaneo next lite had that color scheme

[@Caba-Rojo]

Looks like a fantastic deal. Hall Effect to me is make or break.

[@ChristopherToro]

Now if it has legit support, it would be the full package.

[@alanandfriends-s2o]

While this looks decent it definitely won't be a replacement for my steamdeck. Personally I've had stability issues with Manjaro in the past. Additionally, the marginal gains of the Ryzen 7000 series (and the refresh that is the 8000 series) at the same TDP as the steamdeck's SOC aren't really worth it unless you're plugged into a wall... If I wanted to be plugged into a wall I'd just play on a laptop. I would still recommend an SD Oled over this thing. The legion go is the only other handheld that's even a little bit interesting, and I'd still wait for Steamdeck 2 rather than buying that.

[@Emulation_Inflation]

I would like to see an IR transmitter added to these types on device's.

[@Housestationlive]

this is the price i'm expecting to found the future psp also.

[@herecuzimbored7057]

I just recently got a aokzoe A2 but might have to get this too lmao, just looks too awesome for the price and probably would be an amazing device to emulate on. More than anything im curious if it will have battery life similar to the steam deck due to running linux as on a hardware level the windows machines should do well, but none of them compete ofc

[@Roko-jb5hl]

Looks great. However, why is he always saying “mega transfers” when the info sheet clearly shows Megahertz ?

[@AllenJohn]

If the battery life doesn't last more than 4 hours, then it's not worth the money.

[@main_tak_becus6689]

x86 chips can't pull less than 10w for maximum performance. You have to wait for several generations until it is that efficient. Nintendo Switch OLED can last 3-5 hours on older AAA games because of its ARM chip that pulls less than 10w.

[@joeybeta]

I want to live in your fantasy land where x86 handhelds are capable of intensive gaming for 4 hours straight on battery, let alone 3.

[@bandito241]

These devices looks to be great but I had bad luck with support overseas with Chinese products. That shipping and handling could become hella expensive since they don’t tend to pay for returns.

[@loverboyroar]

Really like the idea of a new os system stepping into the market as I have said it many times, all these other devices rely on windows 11 and windows comes with a lot of crap that runs in the background using up memory that could be used simply for what you got the device for, gaming. Linux sounds awesome but I see this device as a down for looking at the design I can see all the buttons and controls are cramped on the device which would make game play uncomfortable the A,B,X,Y buttons are nearly off the top. Large hand people like myself would get hand cramps playing for an hour. I hope this isn’t the finally design

[@ferdgerbeler8494]

If they can deliver for that price, that's the one, unless theres something huge wrong with it.

[@betablockrr]

Honestly may be getting this, but only the 32GB RAM system. 16GB isn't going to cut it for an APU/iGPU based system in 2024. Palworld struggles on Deck and Rog because of memory limits. But I'll likely install SteamOS on it

[@Mika9VS7777]

8840u better than 7840u???

[@xphyle]

Spec wise, identical. With 8840U having onboard AI capability.

[@Cinoism]

Yes. 0.5% better. They are basically identical. Don't bother with 8840U or 8845HS. They are basically rebrand 7000 series.

[@yanditriputra1905]

New challenge Handled PC

[@craigshorey6764]

Like the pricing and features

[@oo--7714]

$499 is like £(398) cheaper than the steam deck oled and close to the og steam deck price. I knew valve and ASUs was making a profit but man. Technology can be so cheap.

[@OpoSai]

I think the OS is promising especially to put in in my Ally

[@jmp7624]

I don't understand why these companies don't just use SteamOS... We all are going to use Steam anyway and it would only improve compatibility if they just ship with it.

[@jmp7624]

@@GOPACKERSJT I thought they released it last year to OEMs?

[@tpf92]

I can't get over how uncomfortable it looks compared to the SteamDeck, but $500 is dirt cheat for a handheld with a 7840U. Also, I just am not a fan of conductive pads, they just feel worse than dome switches latency-wise.

[@smashpro1]

Man, that price makes this a Steam Deck Killer!

[@alanandfriends-s2o]

the performance at the same TDP makes it not. SD2 or bust.

[@oo--7714]

@@alanandfriends-s2o at 15 watts it is faster. At lower wattages not os much.

[@YoelFievelBenAvram]

I was personally only interested in the rk3588 model.

[@BlobBlobkins]

No back buttons, I don't know about that, using them in EVERY pc game that I play.

[@muhammadwibisonojanuar7793]

Wait: feels like Raspberry Pi but more powerful. Will become part of Fruit Pi?

[@alifarsani2469]

When SteamDeck Oled exists, 500$(before reseller's price gauding!) is not competitive at all

[@sayyedhaseeb]

Bro, you're camparing ? zen2 apu to zen 4 apus 😂. It's not competitive, you say? It's day and night difference

[@Space97.]

​​​@@sayyedhaseebfr lmao I was just about to say the thing lol. steam deck is so underpowered with today's standards and while its still really good, if we talk about in the Performance area? *NAH* even the ps4 Still beats it in some games at certain wattages. I think this guy doesnt know what he is talking about z1 extreme is way more powerful than steam deck and this chip is basically the same performance as that or better 😂

[@alifarsani2469]

@@sayyedhaseeb on paper though, benchmarks do not show a massive upgrade

[@alifarsani2469]

@@Space97. Have a bachelor's and master's degree in electrical engineering with 15+ years of experience in the field. Before talking about other people first try to know about them! Even a kid knows the generational improvements between zen l2 and zen4 you genius! I am pointing out the fact that there has NOT been generational leap forward in practice!

[@Space97.]

Not competitive at all? Let's talk about benchmarks the Z1 extreme is 50% more powerful than steam deck and this chip in this device (8840U) is like 14% more faster than z1 extreme. if thats not competitive idk what is its clear you just are super biased for valve and thinks your outrageous opinion as fact when facts don't care bout your feelings

[@Tommo_]

Okay but this might actually finally be a steam deck rival price-wise

[@oOoZilverwarrioroOo]

I wonder if this handheld will be or good quality, I hope it doesn't break easily being this cheap maybe they're cutting expenses in important parts

[@blackstar-genX]

I would rather handheld start adding more that 16gb for the base model. At least up to 20/24gb of ram. Games are starting to become ram hungry.

[@Bears9McMahon]

Still too way high priced… the other handheld that do the same thing or too high to. It’s a select market of people that want that.

[@oo--7714]

Bro it is cheaper than the steam deck oled.

[@Louganda]

Honestly true should just make it free tbh honestly

[@HockeyPlayer323]

RIP AYANEO prices

[@aaronogden9900]

It’s a good looking device.

[@denmaakujin9161]

Why did they use FF16 footage? That's not on PC yet

[@kaczan3]

I wanna laptop with either of these CPUs. But for some reason producers cram mid GPUs there. And models without the GPU cost MORE.

[@DS-pk4eh]

Lenovo has good priced 7840u or hs laptop under1k

[@kaczan3]

@@DS-pk4eh Do you have a model name or any advice how to find it? I also like Lenovo so it would be perfect.

[@fairplayer916]

Does the 8000 series have a newer/stronger apu?

[@robertlawrence9000]

I'm not a fan of the crooked hand analog stick layout. I wish handhelds would go with the Steam Deck layout. It's more ergonomic.

[@frankpatterson9682]

I understand "Handheld/Pocket" but these 7" screen devices are simply too small for my liking.

[@eskimolost2012]

would get the 8840u version to replace my ally would most likely going to my brother or nephew

[@85crazytechlaz]

Okay so I was thinking way ahead of myself I was thinking that man 16 GB of RAM there's a lot of handhelds out there right now for 16 GB of RAM so that sucks but then I checked out their website and they saying that they're having two different types 16 gigs of RAM and 32 gigs of RAM option so if that 599 is that 32 gigs of RAM I'll get that shit in a heartbeat because it has a 2280 SSD also which that is awesome 👏👏👏👏 and it's not going to be one of those Indigo Girls that they be pulling up it might end up being sold in stores so that's awesome that's another Plus

[@kamikazilucas]

why does it cost 100 dollars more for the 8840u when its litterally the same chip

[@Machivl]

Is this the betther coise in comparison agains the rog ally ?

[@namcojr]

16GB already failed for me. Anything below 32GB and i have a Steam Deck for that. EDIT: It seems there is a 32GB version coming... Back to becoming interesting :)

[@Basti12293]

All these new devices will help the upcoming Steam Deck 2

[@xatusbetazx17]

Hope also be easy to change the battery

[@LoreZofficial]

Isn’t the asus rog ally for $399 right now

[@AdmV0rl0n]

Sadly Orange Pi make some nice hardware, but their software 'stuff' tends to fall down pretty badly. I will be holding breath on this because honestly I am expecting more of the same. A nice bit of hardware, but a seriously flawed software suite. :/

[@joeybeta]

Manjaro seems to be handling most if not all the software from taking a look through the site + Q&A