The Origin of Computers Beyond the Great Wall

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@ironman5034
@ironman5034 Жыл бұрын
Some older people in china don't seem to know about typing with pinyin only drawing the characters, maybe talk about the development of OCR for chinese as well
@InkboxSoftware
@InkboxSoftware Жыл бұрын
Another great topic I hope to cover
@Maxjoker98
@Maxjoker98 Жыл бұрын
TETRIS: Translation: TETRIS. Turns out I knew a little Chinese all along ;D
@InkboxSoftware
@InkboxSoftware Жыл бұрын
Another Chinese name for Tetris: 俄罗斯方块 Translation: Russian Blocks
@martijn3015
@martijn3015 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget about "score", translation: score and "hiscore" tl: highscore
@Mordecrox
@Mordecrox Жыл бұрын
​@@InkboxSoftwarehitting translate to English under the comment actually gave me "Tetris" for those Chinese characters
@nuklearboysymbiote
@nuklearboysymbiote Жыл бұрын
@@Mordecrox separately, 俄羅斯 means russia and 方塊 means block
@Mordecrox
@Mordecrox Жыл бұрын
@@nuklearboysymbiote yeah I expected it, just that seems that Translate is getting context into account... Or they have it wrong the right way (hard translating that entire sentence as just "tetris")
@shadowcore94
@shadowcore94 Жыл бұрын
2:35 The Hanyu Shuiping Kaoshi (Chinese language exam) always uses that melody at the beginning of the listening part...😂
@bocbinsgames6745
@bocbinsgames6745 Жыл бұрын
epic video, can't wait for the next installments. talking about input systems with pinyin being so ubiquitous none of my (chinese speaking) friends could actually type on my system, since I use the (now rather obscure) 五笔 lol
@avnavcgm
@avnavcgm Жыл бұрын
Thomas Mullaney also touches a bit on this interesting topic in his History of the Chinese typewriter.
@mattgio1172
@mattgio1172 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video - I can't wait to see more! I had no idea that the Chinese language wasn't compatible with computers of that era. It makes so much sense that there was a push to develop them locally.
@RandomFish-gx7pj
@RandomFish-gx7pj Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: compatibility issues caused by these early stories still exist in modern Windows. GB2312 was introduced in Windows 3.1 to provide Chinese language support. Since then, for backward compatibility, Windows had to choose GB2312/GBK or GB18030 (a weird UTF implementation that is compatible with GB2312) as its default code page to prevent old software from displaying gibberish. This means contents encoded in UTF-8 or UTF-16 may not work on Windows in China, and some software may malfunction if put into a path with CJK characters.
@Curt_Sampson
@Curt_Sampson Жыл бұрын
@@RandomFish-gx7pj Oh, it gets even worse. Japanese had two systems before Unicode: SJIS and EUC-JP, and the Japanese were even into the early 2000s resistant to switching to Unicode. Only now are all the aftereffects of this dying down.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes i find Chinese websites that haven't been updated in over 20 years and the text is all garbled. it happens in other languages too even in French if there was an accent on a letter like é it would turn into ? you could only have plain English text unless you installed a bunch of stuff.
@raphaelradespiel9970
@raphaelradespiel9970 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel and I'm glad you're still uploading even with these criminally low views. Thanks for all your work!!!
@maxpaspirgilis3967
@maxpaspirgilis3967 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for Posting interesting, genuine videos about Chinese history, without the otherwise so prevalent anti-communist spin to it!
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын
I'm curious whether there are any fundamental differences between their designs and ours. How did they solve all of the various problems they encountered? Are their designs RISC or CISC and do they include instructions in their CPU's that we don't and vice versa?
@bellissimo4520
@bellissimo4520 Жыл бұрын
For now, their designs are 100% equal to ours. Because they prefer to buy Intel i3 CPUs and then rebrand them as their own "home-grown" P3 CPUs. That is today's China for you.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын
@@bellissimo4520 True, but modern day China is a bit more into copying than they were in the past, and I'd love to see what they came up with when they first got started. If the history of such things is even recorded.
@20035079
@20035079 Жыл бұрын
@@bellissimo4520 imagine caring about intellectual property this much, as if you owned it lol
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
These days they are just like in any other country but they are trying to popularise risk v and linux but its not ready yet
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын
@@belstar1128 Personally, I wish someone would develop an open source CISC chip.
@lampmolloy
@lampmolloy Жыл бұрын
this is something you never hear about in the english speaking world... really interesting
@ddud4966
@ddud4966 Жыл бұрын
There had to be more preventing collaboration than just the language barrier. Japanese computers were way ahead and they had to solve the same character entry problems that China had to input Kanji characters.
@MrCharlieBros
@MrCharlieBros Жыл бұрын
Well, yeah, the cold war for example
@aiocafea
@aiocafea Жыл бұрын
if only there was something big and obvious, like a big red symbol or maybe flag that would symbolise a difference between Japan andy China, or something like some shared history haha, crazy, also Japan was experiencing an economic miracle, and i have to add, despite mostly *solving* the issues, many displays strapped on resources could always pick the 'cheaty' kana-only route, whereas pīnyīn is largely unusable for the same purposes
@guyrocketram9698
@guyrocketram9698 Жыл бұрын
genuinley excited for this. love obscure home computers.
@CowardEdd
@CowardEdd Жыл бұрын
Really interesting stuff - subscribed for the rest of the series.
@dylan.t180
@dylan.t180 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos thanks
@cally01
@cally01 Жыл бұрын
The links for the bilibili videos are the wrong way round
@InkboxSoftware
@InkboxSoftware Жыл бұрын
Good eye, switched them to the correct way now
@LavaCreeperPeople
@LavaCreeperPeople Жыл бұрын
Hidden Secrets of Chinese Computers REVEALED
@remka2000
@remka2000 Жыл бұрын
I know a fair bit about encoding issues, i18n and such, but have zero knowledge about computers in China, so this is really super interesting!
@TylerTheDestroyer97
@TylerTheDestroyer97 Жыл бұрын
Audiably snorted at the TRANSLATION - TETRIS bit, great little gag in a really interesting video! Looking forward to the rest of the series after this and the next vid!
@vealchop2490
@vealchop2490 Жыл бұрын
your channel just popped up in my algo and it is absolutely fascinating. Instant subscribe.
@andersdenkend
@andersdenkend Жыл бұрын
Well done, man. Looking forward to seeing more videos!
@jtierney89
@jtierney89 8 ай бұрын
This video was awesome man, looking forward to watching some more of your stuff. Wish I had a modicum of your intelligence haha
@Termanator
@Termanator Жыл бұрын
I like how he goes from this to making 8 bit minecraft
@banks3388
@banks3388 Жыл бұрын
Wrong, the Chinese Empire fractured and was restored multiple times but there was never a singular unified empire or state of China that existed in perpetuity (just a bunch of successor states and polities that claimed legitimacy through the previous incarnations). That idea of Chinese history is literally tied to CCP propaganda used to justify their modern colonialist practices in Inner Mongolia, Tibet, etc. Also Rome didn't just fall contrary to popular historical motifs, the empire was split in half with the Western Empire collapsing and the Eastern Empire surviving for another 1000 years + if you want to use Sinophile logic you can argue for the legitimacy of the HRE as a continuation of the Western Empire (not that any actual historian worth their salt ever would).
@grey.7828
@grey.7828 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonholloman china is a country. rome was an empire. you dont understand histroy
@grey.7828
@grey.7828 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonholloman by this logic yes you do see rome... in italy
@grey.7828
@grey.7828 Жыл бұрын
yes a lot of the historical part and CCP part is completely state media propaganda
@AjinkyaMahajan
@AjinkyaMahajan Жыл бұрын
impressive !!
@nixietubes
@nixietubes Жыл бұрын
China's entire tech history is rather interesting, I collect nixie tubes and VFD tubes and they just havd dozens and dozens of unique tubes that are extremely scarcely documented on our internet
@james-m-8285
@james-m-8285 11 ай бұрын
It’s a little bit funny how much of Asian computing history is just various countries’ engineers fighting with their non-spelled written language.
@yosi1989
@yosi1989 Жыл бұрын
ZD2500/ZD3100H/PC-9801FC likely to appear in future video?
@mjsteelewasabipunk6091
@mjsteelewasabipunk6091 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this
@hanchiman
@hanchiman Жыл бұрын
I am glad that the screen touch was invented, as I don't know how to input pinyin typing. I prefer writing with my "finger" on the screen
@PixelReality1
@PixelReality1 Жыл бұрын
Groovy
@ONgamer69
@ONgamer69 Жыл бұрын
Could you turn deltarune into an snes game???
@michi-eke
@michi-eke Жыл бұрын
Ehy babe, inkbox published a new video!!
@philip2205
@philip2205 Жыл бұрын
There's an error at 0:23! You show the island of Taiwan (the Republic of China) as part of the PRC. The PRC's claim on the island is unfounded and not in compliance with reality. 🇹🇼
@napoleonfeanor
@napoleonfeanor Жыл бұрын
How do the Chinese attempts to input their characters compare to the Japanese trying it with their version of Kanji
@stevendobbins2826
@stevendobbins2826 Жыл бұрын
Both of them type the how a Hanzi/Kanji sounds and the computers gives suggestions based off context. Difference is that the Japanese either use the Latin alphabet or kana depending on user preference, while the Chinse almost always use the Latin alphabet.
@gcolombelli
@gcolombelli 10 ай бұрын
The Wikipedia article on Input Method gives you an overview, there are different methods based either on how a word sounds, how it's written or hybrid methods.
@ExaPaw
@ExaPaw Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, but your China maps are wrong. Taiwan is not part of communist China.
@FictionHubZA
@FictionHubZA Жыл бұрын
The guy making the video is obviously a Chinese American which is why he does that. But as a foreigner in my opinion Taiwan is the true leader of China.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
I think he works with china or something or maybe he even lives there.
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif Жыл бұрын
Social credit, reduced by 810
@razi_man
@razi_man Жыл бұрын
Me when I talk about a country I know jack shit about:
@rsavage-r2v
@rsavage-r2v Жыл бұрын
According to western imperialist propaganda and no one else. Not the PRC, not the Kuomintang, not 180 or so of the world's 195 countries, not the UN, not even the US government. Virtually no one in the world, certainly no one whose opinion is relevant, believes that Taiwan and mainland China are two different countries.
@NekuroMC
@NekuroMC Жыл бұрын
did they tell you about it?
@jorgezarco9269
@jorgezarco9269 3 ай бұрын
Cui Jian is the Chinese Bruce Springsteen. Wang Computers is real...right?
@1lovesgreatness
@1lovesgreatness Жыл бұрын
Lenovo owns Motorola now.
@qake2021
@qake2021 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳👍👍👍
@R2AUK
@R2AUK Жыл бұрын
🔥👍
@Cap1001kyle
@Cap1001kyle Жыл бұрын
Something happened in 198-
@20035079
@20035079 Жыл бұрын
hilarious and original
@FictionHubZA
@FictionHubZA Жыл бұрын
​@@20035079Very funny.
@alexmartinez-og8gu
@alexmartinez-og8gu 3 ай бұрын
bad things happen all the time but china is still a great country. here in mexico i had a subor (was called tandy) but was a clone of this machine in spanish. its how i learned to use a pc and also used it for math homework and to play mario. great times. china doesnt get the respect it deserves.
@ScientificZoom
@ScientificZoom Жыл бұрын
Lenovo
@Philip5651
@Philip5651 Жыл бұрын
Fffff-fff-fff f f FIRRST!!
@iusearchbtw4969
@iusearchbtw4969 Жыл бұрын
ok
@grey.7828
@grey.7828 Жыл бұрын
how much htye pay you to make this lol
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