The ORIGINAL DEATH of Rebecca Walters | (Jill & Charlie were CRUEL...) | SCRE4M

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@pablocortez9600
@pablocortez9600 Жыл бұрын
I like this version. Rebecca being a friend would have more emotional impact. Plus her being a parallel for Tatum would be cool in that they were both killed in a garage.
@pillsburidoughboi
@pillsburidoughboi Жыл бұрын
I LOVE every dialog that the killer said in the movie. The way he taunts Rebecca, the way he teases Kirby while hiding in Olivia's closet and every time he talked to Sidney. Just straight gold
@BrandonJames2016
@BrandonJames2016 Жыл бұрын
I do like that extra line ghostface said about how it’s imperative Sidney doesn’t leave so she knows he will kill Rebecca. The death itself is simple so I prefer the one we got.
@yashsoni7614
@yashsoni7614 Жыл бұрын
Yo ghostface is here🌚 What's your favourite scary movie?😏😈
@Dogloverlikesdoge
@Dogloverlikesdoge Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@BrandonJames2016
@BrandonJames2016 Жыл бұрын
@@yashsoni7614 I mean there’s really only one answer and that’s scream
@apostolos9387
@apostolos9387 Жыл бұрын
The original version of her sounds much more likable so I would have preferred that. I do like how she was thrown off the parking lot in the final version though. However I think it was Jill who killed her. It makes sense that it would be charlie in the original script but as you said it'd be weird that he would just wait for her in the final script. Jill on the other hand was in the hospital at that time because of her arm injury (see the deleted scene with her and trevor) so she probably got discharged a bit later and did it herself
@charliedavis5787
@charliedavis5787 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Every time I watch Scream 4, her death seems more pointless - she wasn't close to Sidney, she wasn't trying to get Sidney to leave. Her death served no purpose beyond another kill. This version of her would have made an impact on Sidney and honestly, we need someone else like Tatum again
@Left4Legends
@Left4Legends Жыл бұрын
@@charliedavis5787 The Reason her death seemed pointless was because of the Fact that jill and Charlie Tried to Eliminate Sidney’s peers sooner rather than later so they can get her Alone in The Final Act but Sidney Fired Rebecca before jill and charlie found out about it which makes it look pointless when they Actually had a Reason
@Nicholas_Chen_
@Nicholas_Chen_ Жыл бұрын
Most importantly, Jill said later to Sidney ‘I’m sorry about your publicist.’, like, it’s such a dead giveaway, the writing is on the wall!
@j2174
@j2174 Жыл бұрын
@@charliedavis5787 They should just have a third Riley sibling we haven’t met yet. Youngest sister. She should model herself after Tatum and kick but and survive.
@JamaicaZ160R1793010A
@JamaicaZ160R1793010A Жыл бұрын
​@@Nicholas_Chen_ No idea how people miss that.
@jaimeav6050
@jaimeav6050 Жыл бұрын
Another angle Jill and Charlie could've had for killing Rebecca is that Rebecca is Sidney's tie to fame as her publicist. And maybe Rebecca's murder was done on a whim; Jill had Charlie follow them to the hospital to off Rebecca for this purpose. Notice that Jill tells Sidney "I'm sorry about your publicist" using her title instead of her name, which is very telling. She didn't want Sidney to have a publicist. In Jill's eyes, Sidney had enough fame and adoration already.
@sandragoth8293
@sandragoth8293 Жыл бұрын
She was so annoying in the movie, I wish they’d made her likeable like this
@2000fiona
@2000fiona Жыл бұрын
Most people here are preferring the one we got, so here's how I'd do it: Keep Rebecca's character being Sidney's friend and keep some of the dialogue and the throat slit from the original, but also use the scene of her being thrown from above and some of the phone dialogue from the final version.
@myersfan5043
@myersfan5043 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to you talk about Scream all day. By far the best channel for the franchise
@jadegunner9234
@jadegunner9234 Жыл бұрын
Scream 4 content is always 🔥
@RYANTHOMPS0N
@RYANTHOMPS0N Жыл бұрын
Great work as usual!👏🏻👏🏻 Fave scream channel! Now we have scream 4 script… can we shed any light on why they scrapped one of the most iconic lines to never make it in the movie… gale: “go ahead if you have the guts”
@jboao
@jboao Жыл бұрын
nah the version we got was MUCH better (minus the door handle breaking off). the og draft was just cheesy and not nearly as scary, suspenseful, or impactful. it may have provided a bit more logic behind who killed Rebecca, but we don’t come to Scream movies for logic. you can just assume Charlie had gained knowledge on Rebecca’s whereabouts off screen. the dialogue during the phone call was much better in the final product as well.
@megcollier3588
@megcollier3588 Жыл бұрын
This series has been your best set of videos yet. I’m waiting for your uploads constantly
@James_Smith862
@James_Smith862 Жыл бұрын
I will never understand why any studio would allow Erhen Krugar to touch their script. He's the Midas touch of mediocrity.
@daviddorsey5507
@daviddorsey5507 Жыл бұрын
Damn that is brutal
@evanlusmann2689
@evanlusmann2689 Жыл бұрын
He wrote Top Gun Maverick and Arlington Road. Both good films
@romefame
@romefame Жыл бұрын
I like both, the one we got made ghostface look bizarrely intimate with the kills especially rebecca's. But I do feel that we would have liked rebecca more if we got this version.
@vancewright45
@vancewright45 Жыл бұрын
i think if rebecca was more likeable her death would’ve been more impactful, so i prefer this version to the original.
@tornadocohen
@tornadocohen Жыл бұрын
I think the original draft was a little darker, not just because Rebecca was more likeable, but it was a little more disturbing that the killer implied he was going to kill her and it took her a moment to realize it after he hung up on her. And the idea of the car moving out near a crowd of people is also a lot scarier and more suspenseful. I also find it scarier that he punches through the window and her screaming is cut short off-screen leaving it to your imagination and increasing how much we're worried about her before it's revealed her throat's been slashed. Honestly, that's a lot more realistic. Edit: I always had a thing for this death scene just feeling out of place compared to the others in the movie besides the killer jumping on the windshield to scare her and still liking the phone call. The chase scene itself was interesting and slightly tension-filled for a moment, but her not being likable and too dumb takes away from her death especially it being a simple gut in the belly. It wasn't strong enough for me impact-wise. Her throat being slit is a more fatal wound to show that she's dead. And the idea of the window being punched through just has a lot more weight where she didn't even have to make a stupid decision for the killer to be able to get her, which just implies the literal helplessness of her situation.
@jamesparks3967
@jamesparks3967 Жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to send some love to Beyond The Mask? His videos are always awesome, yet out of the bigger scream channels he seems to get lesser views. You're appreciated my friend, we love your content.
@myersfan5043
@myersfan5043 Жыл бұрын
What? Lol I don’t think he gets less views. Channels like critical overlord and killjoy Jake are only scraping in below 3k views a video. That’s low. At least BTM is bringing in like 20k+
@OnyxeBlade
@OnyxeBlade Жыл бұрын
The original plan for Rebecca is definitely better than what we got at the end
@weightycarlos
@weightycarlos Жыл бұрын
I honestly love both. But the phone call on the final version was iconic.
@michaeldiamond2755
@michaeldiamond2755 Жыл бұрын
This is waaaaaaayyyyy better than what we got
@TheMidnightSiege
@TheMidnightSiege Жыл бұрын
I would have liked a mix of this in the final movie. I prefer Rebecca’s chase scene as filmed with her being tossed from the building to what seems by this draft an off screen throat slash and slow roll down a hill. But the aspects of Rebecca and Sidney being friends would have been welcome additions. Even a quick scene explaining they were friends before Rebecca became her PR. Maybe Rebecca helped Sid get to the place of being able to write her book, see herself as not a victim. That could have been compelling bit of backstory.
@entertainmentwizard2703
@entertainmentwizard2703 Жыл бұрын
This version sounds better but I would have liked the scene modified to be drawn out like in the theatrical version!
@clarkesteinman5098
@clarkesteinman5098 Жыл бұрын
You keep cranking out surprisingly interesting content! Love it!
@jiwanj
@jiwanj Жыл бұрын
The idea that Sid would ever hire someone remotely like Gale never made sense to me. I think the friendly Tatum like Rebecca would've been better, but the fall from the roof was dope.
@Joeboi76
@Joeboi76 Жыл бұрын
This sounds WAY better, and I love that Rebecca was more a friend than using Sid. Thanks for sharing all these changes! You rock
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 Жыл бұрын
I like both versions and Jill definitely killed Rebecca cause she was the one killing the ones that were close to Sidney.
@ilovezoom3719
@ilovezoom3719 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and literally no one who died was close to Sidney in this movie beside maybe Kate and Jill herself so that’s not valid but of course if it’s you’re opinion then it’s fine
@NoName-nb5nm
@NoName-nb5nm Жыл бұрын
@@ilovezoom3719 Rebecca was close to Jill that was her publicist and assistant of you watched the movie so it's a very valid assumption and her death wasn't recorded meaning Charlie did not kill her.
@musicaudios1846
@musicaudios1846 Жыл бұрын
Rebecca was also killed by Charlie. It was the same night as Olivia's murder and besides, Jill couldn't have killed her because she was being watched in the hospital and she didn't have a Ghostface costume with her. It also takes strength to throw a young woman off the roof. Rebecca died the same night as Olivia and Charlie had his costume with him.
@MarioStarKart
@MarioStarKart 5 ай бұрын
The kids were killed by Charlie. The adults were killed by Jill (except Trevor and Charlie)
@R.P.McMurphy
@R.P.McMurphy Жыл бұрын
I really liked this version more than the one we got.
@mmullins2983
@mmullins2983 Жыл бұрын
I like her how we actually got her. I like that she was awful and you almost cheered when she finally got hers. I also like her being thrown off the building more than what was originally written.
@MashedUpCultPopular
@MashedUpCultPopular Жыл бұрын
I think this probably would have worked better for me personally. Rebecca was more of a walking characteristic than a character. Sidney not having any proper relationships with the other characters (besides Dewey and Gail by default) was ultimately the stronger choice. Can’t compare the actual kill because properly because the scene wasn’t staged, but I’d imagine what we got (thrown from the roof onto a van) would be cheaper to than craahing a car through the hospital doors.
@harryc3483
@harryc3483 Жыл бұрын
I saw an idea that I LOVED Jill and Rebecca being the murderers so they can be the modern day Sidney and Gale !!
@strangerthingsfan8444
@strangerthingsfan8444 Жыл бұрын
I wish they kept that original version because it would have made me like rebecca more
@kylechilutti9429
@kylechilutti9429 Жыл бұрын
I wish we got a combined version of this and the one we have. I wish Rebecca’s character was more of a friend rather than a media driven personality that wants to exploit Sidney. It would be much more impactful. But I do like how we saw her stabbed then thrown out of the parking garage. It was a much more “wow” factor, in my opinion
@grahamrawlins6431
@grahamrawlins6431 Жыл бұрын
I love the original draft version 😍
@JonjoLyonsReviews
@JonjoLyonsReviews Жыл бұрын
Loving this series mate.
@naosoumarcelo
@naosoumarcelo Жыл бұрын
I love the actress, so of course this version seems more interesting!
@DavesFriends
@DavesFriends Жыл бұрын
I like this version so much more. I always felt her character's demise felt phoned in. They just didn't do enough with her character
@andrewweckwerth8793
@andrewweckwerth8793 Жыл бұрын
This scene would've been awesome!
@lightdarksoul2097
@lightdarksoul2097 Жыл бұрын
I do like Rebecca being kind of a fame hungry character but I agree that the death makes more sense here
@bleeneo101
@bleeneo101 Жыл бұрын
Her death was most deserving of all characters in the entire franchise. They were not cruel enough.
@StollenBunz
@StollenBunz Жыл бұрын
I really wish we could have gotten the original version of this movie. It just sounds sooo much better. I feel so cheated.
@gavinfalcus8512
@gavinfalcus8512 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just watched the movie and it was way better then expected, I kept away from the internet so I couldn’t see any spoilers or Leaks and wow, despite being no Sidney it was a good movie not scary and I guessed one of the killers, hopefully scream 7 will be confirmed and Sidney will be back
@wrestlinggodwrestlinggod-cp5uf
@wrestlinggodwrestlinggod-cp5uf Жыл бұрын
i like this version where Rebecca is nice and not at least try to take a vantage of Sidney and where she knows what’s best for her and protector and being there for her I would just love if that wasn’t in the movie but I’m OK with the original one we got
@TheScorpiokorea
@TheScorpiokorea Жыл бұрын
I generally liked this version. it seemed more suspenseful and cruel.
@icaliver
@icaliver Жыл бұрын
Blame the Weinstiens for their dirty mitts for over touching this franchise after 3, it works had it gone with Rebecca being a close friend, but we got what we got. Unless someone writes the unreleased version with all the characters we were supposed get. I heard there was character that was high school news edit version of Gale and Teacher was supposed to be framed making him a Cotton 2.0 if you will.
@justinmojica7112
@justinmojica7112 Жыл бұрын
I don't like either I was rooting for Rebecca to live...😢 poor poor Rebecca 🥺💔🦄
@andrescorona6173
@andrescorona6173 Жыл бұрын
I will always long for the original plans for the 2nd trilogy ;(
@ahronjohn57
@ahronjohn57 Жыл бұрын
I thought Rebecca’s Dad was going to show up in scream 6 to kill the killer but it never happened but I thought it was gonna be Rebecca’s dad not Quinn’s dad hmm I would of been good get Rebecca’s dad in scream 6 to get carry one Rebecca’s story :( hmm
@dionnephd
@dionnephd Жыл бұрын
I’d watch a “Making of Beyond the Mask” KZbin series where you explain your choices as a creator. Well done series! 😘
@coleby1170
@coleby1170 Жыл бұрын
Wow they really cut that out, I like Scream 4 but it would be so much better with all the alternate scenes I've heard so far.
@charmedtommo8995
@charmedtommo8995 Жыл бұрын
This version is WAY better. Why do they keep changing things that would have been better? It’s frustrating
@davidwalker3198
@davidwalker3198 Жыл бұрын
I prefer how she was thrown off the building. But I do like the way they incorporated her being killed to stop Sidney leaving. That was better.
@leamason9006
@leamason9006 Жыл бұрын
I loved the original death, but I do think the original was better
@caydencausey
@caydencausey Жыл бұрын
I like what they did better like her being a villain
@charleykeating
@charleykeating Жыл бұрын
They reshot her death sequence right before the release in 2011 after screen test audiences viewed it . Was this version you speak of ever filmed or is the deleted scene the original version but then reshot ?
@brittanystallwood
@brittanystallwood Жыл бұрын
I like this version much better I think it makes more sense
@ghonnh20
@ghonnh20 Жыл бұрын
Jill is the one that kills Rebecca I the movie, actually It makes no sense for Charlie to be there and Jill probably followed her or wanted for her
@musicaudios1846
@musicaudios1846 Жыл бұрын
Rebecca was killed by Charlie. It was the same night as Olivia's murder and besides, Jill couldn't have killed her because she was being watched in the hospital and she didn't have a Ghostface costume with her. It also takes strength to throw a young woman off the roof. Rebecca died the same night as Olivia and Charlie had his costume with him.
@MissyFerguson-i5o
@MissyFerguson-i5o 9 ай бұрын
Wayne Bailey's daughter Rebecca Waiter in scream 4 🎉😢❤
@CaleAdams
@CaleAdams Жыл бұрын
Like this version more
@damenicionscott
@damenicionscott Жыл бұрын
I still think Scream 4 is my favorite movie
@bigjax731
@bigjax731 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@BULLET_DAVIS
@BULLET_DAVIS Жыл бұрын
Hey I got a question? Did anyone find out why Dewey wasn’t attacked/Targeted at all in scream 4?
@Decadencia_celestial
@Decadencia_celestial Жыл бұрын
I think it's better what we had on the original
@trixiebonds8052
@trixiebonds8052 Жыл бұрын
I would have liked the og
@bmanz2525
@bmanz2525 Жыл бұрын
🗣️ this was good but the suspense and whole sequence of the parking lot was great. And of course she’s a version of Gale it’s a Remake.
@itzklex9049
@itzklex9049 Жыл бұрын
Jill & Charlie are the Most brutal Ghostfaces in this franchise
@garland3688
@garland3688 Жыл бұрын
I just don’t like cat killers.
@j2174
@j2174 Жыл бұрын
Also, I would never enter a dim parking lot when there is a GF attack happening haha
@melissaisloud7404
@melissaisloud7404 Жыл бұрын
That death would’ve been much more impactful.
@boredandsad8932
@boredandsad8932 Жыл бұрын
i think that the original would have been mch better, seeing as i agree with you and dont find it logical for charlie to just be chilling. i recently rewatched it with my sister and asked her how would they even know she was there lol.
@j2174
@j2174 Жыл бұрын
Why does it seem a lot of the original drafts, characterisations, and scenes are often Bette than what we get?
@unknow7114
@unknow7114 Жыл бұрын
I like the movie version
@patrickdempsy14
@patrickdempsy14 Жыл бұрын
First…never clicked so fast
@kurtthompson5765
@kurtthompson5765 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me that a lot of the original scripts are way better then what they put out
@aelius93
@aelius93 Жыл бұрын
This is way better. EXCEPT, the way it should be is ...the same with her being thrown off the roof, landing on the van. But this is WAAAAAY better. The intensity and drama. Sidney hearing GF and just taking off running and right when she gets to the entrance, the body hits the van.