The original GLORIA from the All In The Family pilot speaks!

[@stuarthecht8196]

She's a total class act- despite her own talents and considerable accomplishments, she is still humble and gracious about her experiences with the pilot show, and she gives great praise to the director and the cast that was ultimately chosen for the series.

[@der22672]

And the rest they say is history. Couldn't imagine anyone else but Sally and Rob in those iconic roles. 😊😊

[@zapkvr]

Icons are religious symbols. What are you talking about?

[@MsDreamscaper]

The cast was perfect.

[@katymvt]

@@zapkvr many words have more than one meaning. language evolves.

[@debrabratz]

You mean Sally and Meathead

[@bettyschneider5268]

@@debrabratz Lol 😂 👧👨

[@liberty5069]

Rare to see and hear humble people like her anymore.

[@jaredjlinden]

Candy Azzara still looks good. And she has been working pretty regularly over the years, with a career most actors would envy.

[@jeffroegner1499]

Reminds me a lot of Joyce van patten.

[@janethardy3208]

Carroll O’Connor was a genius. Also love his series In The Heat Of The Night.

[@mlongpre100]

yeah he worked with his adopted son . who eventually overdosed to death .

[@pattyoneill6724]

Yes great actors all in this ! Loved her in Fatso ! The scene where they pig out with the Chubby Checkers guys is classic !

[@davenone7312]

@@mlongpre100 And Carroll was a complete moron playing the nepotism game getting his son that part and even still he had the audacity to blame his sons drug connection for his death! Not himself for getting his son all wrapped up in that hollywood lifestyle of drugs and sex!!

[@bettyschneider5268]

@@davenone7312 They all put their kids in Evil Hollywood🇺🇸🎭🎪🗿🗿🗿🗿 for the money 💰 & fame 👑💃🚶🏃👫👯👭👬👪👨‍👩‍👧‍👧👨‍👩‍👦‍👦👨‍👩‍👧‍👦👨‍👩‍👧🏋🏌🏍🕴🕺🤺🤸🤹🤼🤾🏆 iam not saying it's okay. Iam just saying most celebrities put their children in it! ??? 😱

[@karenthorngren3460]

@@mlongpre100 his son didn’t over dose. He shot himself.

[@stephenlondon3363]

And she was amazing and so funny with Dom DeLuise in “Fatso” and she was also great in recurring roles on “Barney Miller” 😁

[@bobbymartino9974]

She was Rodney Dangerfield wife in the movie Easy Money she was very good in her part

[@michaelrochester48]

Caroline in the City

[@GGiblet]

Beautiful lady, so gracious. Always love her, she shines in every role!! Thank you for uploading this👏👏👏

[@mthivier]

in her Archives of Television interview, Jean Stapleton singled out Candice Azzara's performance in the pilot, and said that, even though she wasn't ultimately right for the part of Gloria, she thought that Azzara was a great actress, and she knew that she would go on to do great work in her career.

[@hatednyc]

There were three pilots. She wasn’t the only Gloria. There were 3 Glorias and 3 Mikes. And Justice for All was the other Pilot.

[@l.salisbury1253]

Believe-it-or-else Penny "Laverne" Marshall also auditioned for "Gloria". She was seriously considered too since she looked like a younger Jean Stapleton ! (She did meet her future husband Rob "Meathead" Reiner during the auditions.)

[@Defensewhiz]

I thought they met when he was a guest star on the odd couple… Or even before that because I think they were dating at the time, but I could be wrong

[@stantheman9072]

@@Defensewhiz they had been married about three years when they appeared together on The Odd Couple

[@jmad627]

@@Defensewhiz Sheldn

[@Defensewhiz]

@@stantheman9072 right so there's my point, they were "well acquainted" prior to any auditions for AITF

[@Defensewhiz]

@@jmad627 "How do you do....How do you do...." and the ever popular "Have you ever been to a leper colony? *haw haw haw* "

[@eastlynburkholder3559]

I like these interesting behind the scenes stories.

[@PopGoesTheCultureTV]

Thanks for the kind words, Eastlyn Burkholder. I appreciate all my viewer comments. Hope you've subscribed. What sorts of videos do you like best? David

[@eastlynburkholder3559]

@@PopGoesTheCultureTV I view all kinds of videos screaming far right, liberal left. Art project videos, other types. it is an eccentric mix.

[@justintyme7213]

Me too,especially the ones that tell who was originally cast and/or who auditioned for a role and didn't get it.Such as John Travolta auditioning for the role of Fonzie and Henry Winkler trying out for the role of Vinnie Barbarino.

[@PopGoesTheCultureTV]

Got it! More of those to come

[@darrelldurley9204]

I do tool its interestingl

[@travis7310]

She's actually the second Gloria, as there was another pilot, "Justice For All," in 1968.

[@AmerIndianWarrior]

Exactly

[@quad5186]

But she was great as Rodney Dangerfields’ wife in Easy Money!

[@jaminova_1969]

Monty was his name! I just read your comment. One of my all time favorite movies! Joe Pesci plays his best friend!

[@davidjsauder9569]

That's who I remember but this is the first time that I saw her clip. She mentions that there was a pilot episode before this and it was with "Harrison Ford": as "Meathead - Mike Stivic" but he was a real pacifist and never fought as a real soldier

[@billstout2118]

Hey Rose there's a Messerschmidt in the kitchen. Clean it up would ya

[@johnqpublic314]

One of Rodney's best.

[@jmad627]

@@jaminova_1969 great movie!

[@daveorme1683]

An artist with some humility. Refreshing. And went on to have a very successful career anyway. Cream always rises to the top.

[@johnlewinski6359]

I remember her being in a lot of shows during this time.

[@frankrossi6972]

Azzara's great in other stuff I've seen her in, but yeah, just these few scenes indicate that it just didn't click. Never knew that it took this many pilots, and more than one network, though Lear wasn't a '70s powerhouse yet.

[@mothershelper1981]

I never knew this! I've always loved Candice Azzara but can't imagine anyone but Sally Struthers in that role. That high-pitched New York accent funny voice was classic.

[@jehobden]

Candace Azzara also appeared in an early LOVE BOAT movie as an entertainer based on the ship. This movie was made before Lauren Tewes was cast as Julie McCoy.

[@vincegay986]

Azzara was in a lot of TV character-role guest shots in the 70’s.

[@joannbaca153]

She was good in her role as the Stepmother in the movie "In Her Shoes." "My Marsha!"

[@greg6363]

She was in the second Love Boat pilot movie that was produced by Doug Cramer before he partnered with Aaron Spelling to get the concept to series.

[@UNOwen1]

I've always loved Ms Azzara.. She's that 'magic ingredient's who can add so much, in anything she's in.

[@AmerIndianWarrior]

It was called first Justice for All, then Those were the days, and finally All in the Family. CBS and NBC rejected the two pilots. She was not the first Gloria on the pilots, Kelly Jean Peters was.

[@craig1082]

Candy played Rodney Dangerfields wife in the movie Easy Money.. That movie makes me laugh everytime and I have seen it over 10 times!

[@lisalynnmarie2448]

I had no idea there were three pilots for All in the Family. I've seen the episode in which this actress was casted as Gloria, and there was zero chemistry between the four of them. I was kind of young when the show aired with the cast we know and love today and fondly remember always asking my parents "what's so funny?" all the time when they were cracking up. My dad then told me "If you don't understand what was so funny, it's because you're too young to know." lol I still watch that show on DVD

[@LeeKeels]

There were not. CBS ordered 13 episodes based on Mike Dann's (VP of Programming) viewing of this second pilot. Sally Struthers and Rob Reiner never filmed an actual "pilot" episode. They were simply the actors cast for the series when it went into production. The first episode of their run can't be considered a pilot since the series was already ordered before they started shooting it.

[@jl3322]

All 3 pilots are here on You Tube or at least they were. You should see the different Lionel Jeffersons. The correct casting is everything!

[@pacz8114]

@@LeeKeels That may be true, but the first show using Reiner and Struthers was the 3rd attempt at the pilot script. Clearly there were some back-room deals that resulted in Reiner and Struthers being cast for the 13 episodes given the actors cast in their roles for the first two pilots were unremarkable.

[@russellconner3468]

Had NO idea that Struthers and Reiner were not the original cast members or that it was pitched and piloted to ABC first

[@bubbadano1508]

She was always great and seemed to be all over 70s and 80s TV.

[@brianarbenz7206]

Sally was superb, but she had a midwestern accent. Candace Azzara had the perfect speaking style for a person from Queens. Rob Reiner's character Mike was from Chicago, but Rob had a strong NYC accent. Candace would have been, in my judgement, a more believable daughter in that household.

[@chewycenter7690]

Yeah, I hate to say it but the writers probably would have gotten more mileage with a more versatile Gloria. True, though Sally Strutters did look like Carroll O'Connor's daughter.

[@douglashaner6802]

Agreed, yes Sally Struthers was pretty but her acting was never great.

[@RawOlympia]

thnx! this is so interesting ~

[@millenniumman75]

Candice Azzara was also in the 1984 finale of One Day at a Time that was an attempted spinoff for Schneider. She was good in that role, but it didn't work out either. She is talented.

[@kenboughton9252]

The original name for the Bunkers was Justice, Archie and Edith Justice.

[@vincegay986]

I didn’t fully appreciate how the series cast clicked until I saw the two pilot casts-both of which looked fine, if not compared with the cast they ended up with. I even forgave that Rob Reiner’s Mike was from Chicago, but he and his uncle’s accents were completely NYC. They should have just written them as New Yorkers and contrived that the uncle who raised Mike had moved to Florida or something. It actually seems like Reiner was the lynch pin. In the first two pilots, there’s no real driving force behind Mike, and therefore, no driving reason for Gloria to team up with him and defend him, for Archie to energetically oppose him, or for Edith to tolerate any of it, or hope for peace. For better and worse, Reiner’s Mike is driven by his political beliefs. That motivates him through school, and through relying on and putting up with and battling with someone who represents so much of what he’s against. It makes both Mike and Archie both more tolerable (Mike’s not just lazy and selfish; Archie isn’t always wrong to be aggravated by Mike) and a bit maddening (Mike’s just a bit more self-important and argumentative than he absolutely needs to be; Archie is just so mindlessly wrong about so much). Everyone is passionate about their positions, and often feels attacked. They’re not merely annoyed by each other. That increases the energy and the pace, which makes both the set-ups and laugh lines more rewarding. Much more firm ground for a long-running comedy series than what the first two pilots provide. And it’s all in the casting, performances, and direction. The scripts hardly changed. Also doesn’t hurt that, from the second pilot on, the set looked a whole lot more like the kind house in Queens the family would live in. It’s also very important that they got Mike’s look and sound right. I lived in the NYC area at the time, and Reiner reminded me of guys I saw and heard on the subway. The hair and clothes were right on the line between mainstream and counter-culture. The other two actors looked like a California-surfer type and a mainstream guy not different enough from Archie. This is very instructive for actors and anyone who has a role in casting.

[@zapkvr]

I could never forgive Mike abandoning Gloria and the baby. Absolutely disgusting

[@vincegay986]

@@zapkvr I really wish they had just ended the franchise when Reiner and Struthers left the show.

[@lindalanza2623]

I watched the movie Fatso last night . She was Lydia . She was so wonderful in that movie . This is such a great movie ....fabulous. If you get a chance to see it ....definitely see it ❤️

[@jaminova_1969]

Ms. Azzara played Rodney Dangerfield's characters wife in Ea$y Money!

[@gheller2261]

Fun Dangerfield vehicle. One thing that never made sense is his wife came from patrician money, yet she spoke with a thick working class Brooklyn/Queens accent.

[@jaminova_1969]

@@gheller2261 I guess it would depend on what schools she went to and where she grew up? Good observation!

[@timfurnier7061]

Oh no. I thought you were a much nicer looking lady than Sally. You're still a beautiful woman!

[@larryfreda5208]

She was the second Gloria. Kelly Jean Peters was the first Gloria in the original pilot.

[@PopGoesTheCultureTV]

You have a good eye for detail, Larry Freda! You'll give me a good run for my money as a pop culture trivia expert for sure. Are you a subscriber yet? David

[@larryfreda5208]

@@PopGoesTheCultureTV I am subscribed.

[@raindance3880]

I like her better then the first one but of course Sally Struthers IS Gloria!

[@vincegay986]

All the Glorias were good, but Azzara seemed a little too worldly, and Peters didn’t seem like she could be formidable enough, if she needed to face off against her father or husband. Struthers was right on a line between jaded and naive, a modern woman and the apple of her father’s eye. And the more “driven” Mike that Reiner provided gave Struthers more to work with.

[@larryfreda5208]

@@vincegay986 The casting people were very good at their job. These 2 pilots show that Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers were the best Mike and Gloria. No one else was close.

[@americanitalianisrael4008]

Nice lady. Not many like her in todays industry.

[@anthonyaustin3370]

And how many have you actually met?

[@dorian3260]

Ever click on a KZbin video and then ask yourself, was this worth the dozen videos KZbin will recommend on the same subject?

[@tomtransport]

Come on man, "I just wanted to go home". Baloney. If so why was she still on/in so many TV shows??!? The sally Struthers (Gloria) part was to die for it turned out.

[@emptyhand777]

Carrol O'Cahnah

[@brianarbenz7206]

And Noh-mun Lee-uh.

[@michaelrochester48]

Candace Azzara Was later on the TV show with Leah Thompson, Caroline in the city

[@tehjamerz]

Class act

[@kevinbergin9971]

Well, at least you had a acting career. Chip Oliver, who did play 2 years for the Oakland Raiders, only did the pilot. No other IMDb credits.

[@suzannebear4194]

Oh my gawd i loved her in Fatso

[@robertphillips6296]

Three Pilots! That must be a record.

[@douglashaner6802]

Might be, I tried Google and found nothing on what show had the most pilot episodes.

[@jaredjlinden]

Three’s Company had three pilots, as did The Love Boat. But yes - very unusual!

[@makeadifference4all]

@@jaredjlinden The Love Boat had three pilots... but only one captain: Gavin McLeod!

[@davidkocinski2213]

She still looks great.

[@bettyschneider5268]

I remember the All in the Family Show with Archie Bunker & Edith! But not the Women talking! But i was young then too. 📺

[@smug8567]

At this point she can ramble about unicorns and cheesy bread, and the media won’t ever report it.

[@jaminova_1969]

Kind of like being the 5th Beatle!

[@christinacascadilla4473]

Cheesy bread?

[@boodroe]

She was on Soap

[@NYRNGR1]

I don't remember her on Soap. Who did she play?

[@jaminova_1969]

@@NYRNGR1 Mrs. Cambell, I think.

[@dreamweaver1603]

@@jaminova_1969 no, the person who played Mrs. Campbell died a long time ago. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t this lady. I’ll have look that up now.

[@jaminova_1969]

@@dreamweaver1603 The actress who played Jessica Tate's sister Mary Campbell was Cathryn Damon who passed away in 1987, Way too young. RIP

[@zapkvr]

@@jaminova_1969 not correct

[@suetucker9264]

Sweet lady!

[@nicolelovesjesusgod7673]

She is super classy

[@teresayeates3437]

Could not stand Rob Reiner, always hunched over, drove me nuts. Stand up straight.

[@mlongpre100]

he was a mooch who lived off his wifes' dad

[@kaladwarakanath5503]

I know. I hate that hunch of his. I am addicted to the reruns.

[@kaladwarakanath5503]

He was not a mooch. He lived with his in-laws only when he was in school. It was a temporary arrangement. What's wrong with that? He moves out once he finishes school and gets a job, and supports his wife.

[@mlongpre100]

@@kaladwarakanath5503 then in the sequel tv show 'gloria' he divorces his wife to take up with a younger woman

[@kaladwarakanath5503]

@@mlongpre100 Actually that happens in AITF itself. When Archie and Edith, along with Stephanie, go visit Mike and Gloria in California, they find out. That episode makes me want to cry! I can't believe Mike would do something like that!

[@laurallewien2165]

Oh she was Rodney Dangerfields wife in Easy Money 💰 very classy lady!

[@bobbuethe1477]

I still associate Candy Azzara with "Calucci's Department," which starred her and James Coco. A funny sitcom that deserved far more than the 11 episodes it ran.

[@evdallas123]

It would have never made it with that cast and set

[@allme2547]

Her voice reminds me of Leela's mom on Futurama. I thought I would post this first & then go check it out to see if I'm right! Lol

[@debbiemullen2574]

Very nice, classy lady.

[@victordavenport2626]

She does a hilarious bit in my all-time fave Gene Wilder movie-"The World's Greatest Lover."

[@Doreen7777]

From what I understand, ABC and NBC rejected the pilots because they were too risque for television and didn't think an audience would accept it. And look where television is today.🤭

[@breezybest6064]

It would have been much better without Reiner. Sally Struthers is really annoying too actually but I could see her being raised by Edith haha! This lady is beautiful and classy, so that would have been interesting to see how that all played out if they would have gone the other route.

[@silvaadourian3185]

Sally made the role

[@PopGoesTheCultureTV]

Hey, Silva Adourian. I couldn't agree more. Thanks for watching! Best, David

[@HelloooThere]

I thought I heard Carroll wanted a change or else no dice to the show?

[@slimlouis6441]

???

[@HelloooThere]

@@slimlouis6441 !!!

[@thewkovacs316]

and candice went on to have a very solid career she didnt get the gig because she appeared to be older and more street smart than the character of gloria

[@rubygreta1]

The actor who played Michael in this pilot was truly awful.

[@AmerIndianWarrior]

Richard or Dickie they called him lol

[@leahartlee29]

What a sweetheart- wow that must have been some lasagna!!

[@ericnelson9100]

The actor here in the Rob Reiner role really couldn't act, that was obvious, and it affected the others performances. I think the couples were viewed as a package/team, Archie/Edith and Mike/Gloria, hence their decision to re-cast her as well. Plus, she was too ethnic; I think the producers wanted someone more mid-western middle America type to balance out the cast, hence SS being cast. Plus SS was a bigger name, having appeared on Laugh In and Shindig. Also, this actually wasn't the first pilot; there was one made in '68 that up until the around 1996 was thought to be lost to the ages; it featured two different actors as Mike/Gloria and was even more crude and less polished than this one.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

Imagine if Roseanne Barr was picked as Gloria?

[@ilovegoodsax]

Too young. Rosanne had just graduated high school when All in the Family started it's first season in 1970.

[@johnfd0210]

She was probably in the nuthouse at that time.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

She is bipolar.

[@shawnmichaelduncan5951]

Horrible. Can't stand her.

[@teenamaree5660]

She thought Sally Struthers was cuter than she...gee whiz!

[@texastyrannyresponseteam794]

i wish she had been in the show.. i cannot stand sally struthers.. this chic would have been great..

[@PopGoesTheCultureTV]

Hey, @texastyrannyresponseteam794! Thanks for watching. I hope you'll subscribe. Best, David

[@davidlarson4422]

It’s over 45 years ago… let it go.

[@kevinbergin9971]

She's not exactly agonizing about it?

[@jerrybobteasdale]

Meathead and Gloria were the weakest part of the show. Rob Reiner was so irritating.

[@MalEvansUSA]

She would have been good. However Too Italian. Wouldn’t have worked

[@kimakotrotman6860]

At least she didn't get fat😝.

[@peterdaniel66]

MUCH better looking than Sally...

[@tracyarmstrong2953]

Struthers and Reiner were the reasons I couldn’t watch the show! They both were so annoying to me. I loved Stapleton and especially O’Connor!

[@giselestrauch5146]

this is awful

[@tysongames2750]

I always thought Gloria was such a nothing character that anyone could have played it.