The Origins Of Be'lakor - 40K Theories

[@redsalamander9999]

I think that a series telling the story of the magos seeking to uncover the truth about Be'lakor would make for a fantastic tale. I don't know what form it would take, but I can see how it goes now: the magos discovers the relics hinting at the daemon prince's identity, and sets out to uncover the mysteries of this 'alien warlord'. He gets further and further wrapped up in his research, never realising he's being played by Be'lakor the whole time, and getting into contact and conflict with numerous personalities on his journey. Eventually, at the climax, with all things said and done, he discovers the truth, but in the worst possible way imaginable, as the daemon decides to show him first hand...

[@KuuraHelmi]

Maybe he was Belakor himself 😲

[@TheLodgePainting]

oh you beat me to it lol

[@Uzzgub]

a interaction helps the almighty Algorithm =)

[@TheSilverwings909]

-shrouder in mystery -conflicting origin stories -constantly manipulating from the shadows This is without a doubt Alpharius!

[@peterwall8191]

*TheSilverwings909* Except .. Alpharius is dead. Maybe .. its Omegon.

[@imperialfist2304]

But I’m Alpharius!

[@juwebles4352]

@@peterwall8191 I mean dead people can still become daemon prince’s

[@peterwall8191]

@@juwebles4352 Joking dude. How many times has Alpharius died? I'm starting to think he's a perpetual; he always turns up ,like a bad penny, when you least expect him. Alpharius a daemon prince... idk he didn't do anything out standing to earn his Ascension. Compared to the rest, he's small fries.

[@olufolarinoduntan9097]

@@peterwall8191 Both of them are second fiddle to the four GOAT Daemon Primarchs: Mortarion, Magnus, Fulgrim, and Angron, and there especially second to Be'lakor

[@Zero01k]

He was a good daemon... *lip smack* what a rotten way to be banished

[@Dingghis_Khaan]

What a shame.

[@Kaladryn2781]

I wish there was something more I could say.

[@zacharylopez8683]

OHFUCK... BE'LAKORS last words. (For now)

[@changer_of_stuff]

noooo daddy be'lakor *sobbing*

[@walterlopez5054]

"Multiversal Singularity" somebody is a Transformers fan i see.

[@robertnelson9599]

Be'lakor is definitely similar to Starscream.

[@CrimsonKamina]

I was going to make this comment lol

[@Arkaeus04]

My mean pre fragmented Unicron

[@Arkaeus04]

I would actually like to see Archaon and Abaddon fight

[@TaurenisTaursen]

I dunno man... Abby aint even got arms to fight with. Nor a horsy that eats daemons. heheh

[@Hawkens4k]

Failbaddon the harmless couldn't kill anything really.

[@40KTheories]

He killed Sigismund, and Endryd Haar

[@ticker0157]

Abaddon would get easily throw to the side if Archaon even looked at him

[@tgreen1071]

Would be a cool fight but abby would win surely. Easy.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

Going by my old theory that Be'lakor used the time bending powers of the warp to travel into the distant past sometime after his ascension, hence why he appears in so many ancient sources, maybe the reason he is obsessed with Abaddon is that he is in fact Abaddon's future self.

[@connorcmsmith4302]

A self fulfilling prophecy making sure that Abaddon makes the choices that in turn leads to Belakors creation and thus going back in time to ensure his creation

[@phreakazoith2237]

Abbadon's future self is a successful champion of chaos? This teaches us never to give up hope not even in 40k.

[@velphidrow]

@@phreakazoith2237 but Abbadon wishes to not become bound to the 4 gods

[@Furzkampfbomber]

@@velphidrow And as we all know, Abaddon has a talent for achieving exactly the things he does not want to achieve.

[@Triumph263]

@@velphidrow So did Horus at first, Be'lakor still thinks he has free will. Chaos makes you think you are independent even when your free will is gone. The only ones who seem at all capable of using Chaos for their own ends without being entirely enslaved are the Iron Warriors and the Alpha Legion, and they still are used as tools by Chaos, they're just aware Chaos is trying to use them and make an active effort to avoid being used (but it's only slightly working). Maybe the Alpha Legion does think it's still on the path to defeating Chaos by using Chaos without realizing they're just empowering it without ever really weakening it. I think the real reason the Imperium hasn't been crushed by Chaos is because Chaos knew it would be destroyed if they completely won; what better way to empower themselves then creating a state of constant war (Khorne), constant plotting and backstabbing (Tzeentch), entire planets dedicated to debauchery (Slaanesh) and the slow decay of an entire civilization with stagnation (Nurgle).

[@KingOfMadCows]

I like the idea of Be'lakor being an alien daemon prince. I always wanted there to be more non-human Chaos worshippers and daemon princes, and non-human undead in WH fantasy. Because even if non-humans are far less likely to fall to Chaos, they've been around for much longer. Humans have traveled the stars for around 37,000 years but older races like Orks and Eldar have been space faring for tens of millions of years. You'd think Chaos would have snagged more aliens just because there's been much much more time for that to happen.

[@robertnelson9599]

To be fair, there are examples of Chaos Orks, but they are all wiped out by Eldar, humans or other Orks. I think GW kept Chaos to mostly humans so Chaos armies couldn't combine elements from the other factions. I mean, imagine a Khorne army made of Kroot, Goff Orks, World Eaters and Bloodletters on the tabletop.

[@sonofjack6286]

There were the Laer, they worshipped Slannesh before the Emperor's Children wiped them out.

[@flameknightplayz2939]

@John M. what about the chaos gods subconsciously creating Belakor like an immune system activating to protect the host

[@WillowGreenheart]

Same. I love idea of idk... Nurgle Eldars who join him to not get eated by She-Who-Wipe-Asses.

[@eldradulthran6482]

There's Chaos Eldar and an Eldar Daemon Prince in dome of the new Eldar books.

[@BlizzardofKnives]

Story idea: Be-lakor's aiding Abaddon, whose aims he believes will be harmful to the Chaos Gods, out of a desire for revenge.

[@aunrah02]

Also, also... let us not forget! That Be'lakor has made it into our own realm, via the Australian metal band of his name sake. I, am a Be'lakor evangelist, & I encourage everyone to check out the album Vessels. So good, so we'll done. Damn good video, on an awesome character! Keep up the good work

[@bladestorm337]

I hope they finally bring him in Total war: Warhammer 3

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

No, Just No He will be Too Op to be Fight We already have Archeon to Deal with

[@bladestorm337]

what? no he wouldn't be OP, just very hard,late game chaos threat. You would have time to prepare for him

[@robertnelson9599]

Based on how there are supposed to be 4 Chaos lords, my guess is Be'lakor is will either be DLC or a Legendary Hero unit.

[@Tommy9834]

@@robertnelson9599 they said there will be 9 legendary lords on launch, not including the pre-launch we will be getting. So one for each Chaos God, makes 4, and I think we can assume Kieslev and Cathey, will each have two, which makes 8, unless you think the Legendary lords won't be evenly distributed, but assuming they will, that does leave one out. My personal theory is we will get those 8 lords, and the Warriors of Chaos will get Be'lakor as a new lord, along with a rework.

[@dragonofdragons1720]

he's getting a table top model

[@duncanself5111]

Dark Future artwork is so nostalgic, it will always evoke memories of childhood for me and looking through my brothers White Dwarf magazines

[@andrewmcnally5013]

Wouldn't be surprised if Be'lakor is being manipulated to pit Abadfon and Archaeon against each other. Both are the single most powerful MORTAL Chaos champions in ther respective universes, but also refuse to bow to the Gods themselves. The Gods would just have to get Be'lakor to pit the two against each other, have them kill each other in the fight and blame Be'lakor for it.

[@Matt-md5yt]

Glad you revisited this character.

[@Jawmax]

Until you mentioned the high probability of Be'lakor coming from Warhammer Fantasy I had a theory. Be'lakor could have been the very last of the Old Ones. Even if this is not the case it does bring up a horrifying possibility of a being with such strong psychic power trading it's soul for survival.

[@joevines3428]

I remember hearing a story about Sigvald the magnificent, and his time in the chaos realm witnessing impossible sights that sound pretty much like 40k, things like giant flying ships miles long full of armies of warriors battling each other. I think it's a cool idea that the warp connects infinite realitys but at the same time it can be messy when you think about it too much, kind of like Rick and Morty.

[@garpogods8323]

Know what I would love? If somehow Belekor were use his hatred of the other princes as well as the big 4 to ascend into being the god of Chaos Divided. While we may never get Malal, Be'lekor could be a cool substitute and give an interesting endpoint to his story.

[@StairChicken]

I think it would be interesting if Be'lakor was perhaps a Xenos whose form (horns, wings, hooves) became the template from which other daemons and Daemon prince took their shape. As in he has kept much of his original form since he ascended. Additionally, though I have no evidence to base this on, of he was one pinnacle of the Old One's first attempts to create a warrior race to fight the War in Heaven, perhaps he slew the rest of his kin and carved out his own empire in the aftermath. Mostly I'd just like to see a warlord of his race leading an Aeldari Exodite warband

[@Gormathius]

That’s by far the coolest idea I’ve seen so far. The idea he’s such a successful daemon that all others that followed based their template on him is just pure badass.

[@marcusmcclain3251]

Gettin a lot of mileage out of that Zoran clip!

[@40KTheories]

Which I've used... twice before? xD

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

Ah, I love it when Fantasy and 40k crosses over

[@40KTheories]

You should check out the Liber Chaotica. One of the best bits is when the Sigmarite Priest is within the domain of Tzeentch and sees Magnus the Red "Magnus, the mightiest of Tzeentch's minions, who has spawned a thousand sons" - subtle...

[@andrewmcnally5013]

@@40KTheories and the time where it's believed that Kaldor Draigo went into the WH Fantasy world in the End Times.

[@legionaireb]

Personally, my favorites are the two times when people in the World-That-Was glimpse Eldar.

[@theVulcanGuy]

@@40KTheories ïa ïa shub niggurath!

[@LAV-III]

See I told you all we should have followed the despoiler!

[@NetMoverSitan]

Before or after his arms drops off?

[@LAV-III]

@@NetMoverSitan he used to have arms?

[@NetMoverSitan]

@@LAV-III He re-attaches them before each Black Crusade.

[@InquisitorKryptman]

I hope GW doesn't just drop the Hive Fleet Tiamet lore

[@updfdrakkell143]

gw made so much they cant member it all anyway, hence why they havent tried to clean things up into a neater package

[@robertnelson9599]

Tiamet is the Hive Fleet with abnormal resilience guarding some sort of Tyranid beacon, right?

[@updfdrakkell143]

@John M. but thats what i mean, about all the vague stuff. I do think they should clarify somethings at least. It opens up more story and merch options when your a author/creator and see all the diff theories fans make so why not expand into the missing lore going off some of the fans theories and in doing so show that we, the fandom, are helping to expand the 'in stone' universe in a more active way. And i will concede one selfish reason... I WANT KITTEN AS CANON! and maybe the tts magnus too lol

[@The_Keeper]

Plot Twist: Be'lakor was... a Skaven! 🤣

[@falconer7447]

I love it when he uploads in the morning,

[@prismunit2]

Yes. 1AM in the morning for me to be precise. Lol

[@Butter_Warrior99]

Ah yes morning.

[@Pickatimatrina]

For me it is 7am, but in the USA 1am 😉

[@Butter_Warrior99]

@@Pickatimatrina, Ah yes it's gloriously late here.

[@jaknova1]

10:26 pm

[@АрвигБадмаев-и1э]

In Age of Sigmar it's outright stated that during Age of Myth in mortal realms, Archaon succesfully conquered several other universes in the name of chaos (which is awesome). At some point he found out about mortal realms and remnants of his old home universe, and was eager to conquer new realms as personal vendetta

[@kiesarisunny13]

I’m making a Warband that worships this guy, love your videos

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

After reading the Liber Caotica and The End Times, all I want is to see a 40K and Fantasy/Age of Sigmar crossover before I die.

[@robertnelson9599]

Sigmar fighting alongside the Emperor, Orks and Orruks headbutting each other and Be'lakor trying to turn Abaddon and Archaon against each other. Sounds awesome.

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

@@robertnelson9599 I mentioned it because I'm making a comic about it, The Non-mensional Fuckery. Not only it will have Fantasy and 40K clashing with each other, but it'll also see Doom, Quake, Worm, Commander Keen, Gears of War, Marathon, etc.

[@Triumph263]

@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 I REALLY hope we get a Quake 1 sequel; they've all but confirmed outright that DOOM exists in a multiverse using slipgates to travel between them (the ones from Quake) heavily implying that DOOM takes place in the same multiverse as Quake; maybe they could even get Sandy Peterson to write some of the story for Quake (since he is still really prevalent in Lovecraftian horror, I know he wasn't too impressed with Doom:Eternal but without playing 2016 it's kinda hard to get into it; if he did go through DOOM 2016 first then go through Eternal I honestly think he would really appreciate the direction), imagine if we got to play as Ranger traveling in Lovecraftian realms trying to find a way to return to earth. This time they could include some of the RPG elements they wanted to put in Quake originally (it wasn't even planned to be a shooter, but I don't think they should take that part out). Imagine how good a Quake 1 style art direction would look with IDTech 7 and they environmental artists who worked on DOOM: Eternal. In a lot of ways new Doom is closer to Quake than it is to old Doom (the gameplay is a lot closer to Quake, and some of the areas in DOOM: Eternal look more inspired by Quake then old Doom). Also who owns the rights for Marathon? I don't know of anything new being done with the IP so it might be in limbo (like how Wolfenstein existed before ID and ID just kinda took it since it was available) but if it's not in limbo does Bungie still own it? Has it even had any official rereleases in recent times?

[@brotheralaric7177]

@@robertnelson9599 well there have bbeen fan fiction like Sigmar was one of the lost primarch.

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

@@brotheralaric7177 It'll start like this: 12 powerful men and beings from the Prime Veil (aka. our reality) get bored of fighting ISIS and other malcontents. Seeing they have no enemy or something that could interest them here, they combined their knowledge and abilities to find enemies and thrills somewhere else, the fictional worlds. Due to a _very_ hilarious mishap, the boundaries keeping these Nonverses separate (copyright, tones, differences, etc.) collapse and burn, making them real in their own and opening Rigs from one place to the other. Examples of the mess include: Doom Slayer finding his father, the Chaos Gods fighting the Elder Gods, Skitter meeting with Cole McGrath, etc.

[@JennFaeAge]

Any video that cites Freebootaz as a source is instantly 100% better

[@darrianweathington1923]

Plot twist, He's actually a Tau Air cast that learned how to swing a sword, and the chaos Gods thought it would be funny to make him the strongest daemon prince.

[@spaps7920]

Yknow I might not be the most versed in lore but abbadon the everchosen sounds awesome

[@JudicialBrat]

NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS TO BE'LAKOR!!!!!

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Ofuc.....*Banished*

[@sithprimarch9970]

This is as perplexing as it is fascinating. I just hope they do something with it. Great video as alway

[@hallo-mt5tx]

i hope my boy makes it as the undivided daemons of chaos leader tw wh 3

[@Kakashi20xd6]

Could he perhaps be an Old One? A race that is also not mutually exclusive to the fantasy or 40k universe.

[@l.o.r.esci-fi4896]

Ummmm not Likely The Old Ones Would Look at the Chaos Gods as If They Were Bugs Because The Old Ones are On The Contrary Could Bring Back The Immaterium (Realm of souls in the Past) back into it's Normal State

[@boartank]

Old Ones would shit on Chaos. Look at War in Heaven Aeldar myth. Chaos wasn't born yet during that time. The war created Chaos.

[@Kakashi20xd6]

To make my shotgun of an idea a little less dumb, not at a peak of their power as a race Old One. I was thinking more a last desperate survivor of The War in Heaven and Enslavers.

[@bluestormpony]

its also pretty strongly implied that aeldari who are consumed by slannesh can be reborn as lumineth in AOS when ever teclis or tyrion rip souls out of slannesh

[@АрвигБадмаев-и1э]

Source?

[@legionaireb]

I hate to be nit-picky, but I think the Draigo quote is more likely referring to The World-That-Was than the Mortal Realms. Not only does the short story precede the End Times event (published at the end of 2013 while the first End Times book was published in 2014), but, more tellingly, the quote refers to 'magic blowing in the wind.' In the Mortal Realms, magic is an intrinsic part of EVERYTHING, while in the World-That-Was it took the form of transient energy that drifted through the world, energy that was most commonly referred to as the 'Winds of Magic.'

[@40KTheories]

Yes, perhaps I should have been clearer in this regard (it's easy to confuse aspects of WHFB with AoS these days lol). In either case the point about the "multiverse" still stands.

[@symbiojoe6857]

Oh boy is it good someone made a Bel'lakor video recently. What do you really know?!

[@ifiwasyouiwouldntbe]

I always thought of Malal or Malice as the "pre-chaos" chaos god. Due to the very contrarian nature of the warp, I like to image that old man Malal was all alone in the warp until slaanesh tore a hole in it, allowing real space to distort his perfect "chaotically neutral" space where everything was in perfectly juxtaposed contradiction. If we accept this logic as possible, then Be'lakor could easily be his avatar. Instead of being the first prince of chaos undivided he could be their very first adversary and greatest threat. A sort of daemon prince of the warp undivided, which the 4 gods where only just beginning to harness after their births. Thus the reason they rushed to create their own demon princes was to weaken his influence over their power. Like how their use of the warp space real estate and habitation of the eye and maelstrom (quasi-real-space) would weaken Malal and his kingdom (i.e. the true neutral warp separated from real space). That is just my head cannon, but I would like if this was the direction they took Belakor. He would make a great anti-chaos-god, instead of a salty scorned prince.

[@Robustacap]

I keep finding it interesting that many Chaos Gods and/or their servants show similarities to the Slann-Mages aka Old Ones in 40k.. Such as the Khornes belly-mouth or Nurgles forms. Wouldn't a death of a highly psychic being have a response in the warp? And Could not the Chaos Gods be a direct reaction to Old Ones dying, presumably as they made their last gambit via humanity? Not necessarily to aid Humanity but to gain power from them, to fight the Necron and just keep existing, even if twisted and Chaotic form..

[@cheeselovar]

"he, or sheee, she or heeee" like bruh you can just say they, it's so much easier, especially for slaanesh considering they can shape shift lmao

[@АрвигБадмаев-и1э]

But isn't Slaanesh a single-minded entity? "They" would imply that chaos god is some form of hivemind

[@cheeselovar]

@@АрвигБадмаев-и1э I mean, not really? Like when you tall about someone you don't know, you say they cus you don't know their gender, or for people who are outside the binary, like non-binary people, or generfluid people etc, and I mean, technically speaking, slaanesh could be a fucking hivemind, they can literally shape shift 😂😂

[@АрвигБадмаев-и1э]

@@cheeselovar oops, I forgot that trans people use "they"

[@eldradulthran6482]

@@АрвигБадмаев-и1э Oh well, only some. It's an honest mistake to make and I find it's best to ask with Trans and non-bibary people.

[@goodolboston4522]

When I heard Zoran all I could think of was. The Deamons of Khorne will eat you alive once your red rage begins. That line will NEVER EVER EVER get old

[@basos1888]

Be'lakor was a Ctan,influenced by the darkness of the warp even when it was called sea of souls.and since he became a deamon prince he could manifest withought the living metal the necrons used!!!

[@masongalioth4110]

“BE’LAKOR IS THE FUNNIEST!”

[@mysticalseapotato8303]

Does Bel’lakor even have to be from either universe? I like to think he was a being from another reality all together and simply has his fun in different universes to try and get the attention of the chaos gods until he is replaced by chumps like Archy boi and Abby. After a proper person from the universe is set up as a champion of chaos, he goes off to another one.

[@brotheralaric7177]

The duel between archaon and Abby . .. *start to drool profusely * "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY"

[@thespartanmk1]

Thought the Thumbnail was Molag Bal for a minute and I got really confused.

[@j.bat.8235]

Isn't though? Have you ever seen Bela'kor and Molag Bal together in the same room at the same time?

[@Gormathius]

@@j.bat.8235 I mean, regarding the warp, seeing two characters together in the same room doesn’t really prove anything.

[@j.bat.8235]

@@Gormathius which is a pretty fair point.

[@AmentiVZ]

Sleep? No. I have a video to watch.

[@jordanmagpiebullet7978]

Same as you

[@annelisemeier283]

I don’t need sleep, I need answers

[@Gormathius]

I can’t stop hearing this in Dorn’s voice and I have no idea why

[@nidnoms3622]

i always figured the Warp was connected to both fantasy and 40k, plus it gives me more support in making my Genestealer Cult Ogors

[@SuperNoah9999]

My theory is that he's the time-displaced daemon prince form of Abaddon. This may seem a bit far fetched, but hear me out: *Both have the favor of all four of the chaos gods, essentially being their ultimate champion, in addition to Be'lakor being said to have been a powerful warlord before ascending, something which Abaddon most certainly is. I get that this is a pretty weak reason, but it's still worth mentioning *They have very similar attitudes to the Chaos Gods, using their jealousy over them to gain favors from them, and believing themselves to be independent from their control *It's stated that Be'lakor founded numerous galactic empires, many of them worshipping him as a godlike figure. Given that Abaddon essentially wants to take over the Imperium to become the New God Emperor, this definitely seems like something he would do. *As many people know, the Warp is a confusing place where a lot of weird stuff can happen, including travelling backwards or fowards In time. *He wields a big sword, and frequently uses his claws. This ones mostly for fun. As for what happened to Drachn'yen and his other OP equipment, I have no goddamn clue.

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

That could be said of the archons from fantasy and sigmar as well. Belakor belongs to neither world.

[@leeboy26]

You and Auspex Tactics should do a teamup. I'd likely not know which is which, though.

[@Marinealver]

The Origin is Warhammer Fantasy Battles, and they figured out that since he was better than Archaon he can be better than Abaddon.

[@dominikzagrusovcem3725]

Nothing BAD EVER HAPPENS TO BELA'KO..

[@mouseketeery]

I'd like The Vengeful Spirit to hove into view in the skies of the Mortal Realms. The poor little Kharadron Overlords would be scooting about in panic.

[@franciscorui]

You know this reminds of my theory on the orks/orcs that their spores originated from the fantasy world, the old ones found them, thought them interesting, and altered and used them for the war in heaven. That would explain why there isn't any true ork home world in 40k nor any mention of what they were before the war.

[@michaelhowell2326]

Has there been any examples of a Demon Prince being blessed by more than one God of Chaos but less than all?

[@-LordZaan-]

If I'm not mistaken Lord Mortkin.

[@mizuhokusuha]

At this point, I think even he had forgotten what he was and with the toxic environment of the warp, all origins are possible since every state that can be, has happened and never happened.

[@phalidomex3961]

Plot twist: He was a Necrontyr

[@szabokristof551]

Fuck that would be actually pretty interesting. Imagine Be'lakor meeting with the Silent King

[@DrunkenRoadkill]

Ah yes the showdown that would see an actual competent chaos villain in 40K

[@jjvagnar1]

Oh come on guys, it's obvious that Be'lakor originated from the 40K universe? After Rogal Dorn Killed Alpharius, the Chaos gods transported Alphy's spirit back to the WHFB universe where he became a mortal champion of chaos and rose to daemonhood. Duh!

[@fumarc4501]

Be’lakor is a fascinating character with multiple depths to his motivations and past.

[@Malekath1]

whoo hoo finally covered a character thats always interested me great work guys

[@Chaosdom-]

What if Be’lakor is either Archaon or Abaddon ?

[@RonaldoLuizPedroso]

Me listening to the Mortal Realms connection and thinking Skaven Skaven Skaven heheheeh

[@Gonourakuto]

Kaldor draigo : Where a self made god-king was all that stood againts the ruinous powers Lizardmens : are we a joke to you ?

[@hughgedney3393]

A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.

[@Morae88]

Excuse me!!! Was that ZoranTheBear ????

[@40KTheories]

Yup

[@arleygomez465]

Great voice acting by Zoran.

[@eldradulthran6482]

His age and manipulative nature make me prone to believe he was an Eldar. He's far too subtle yo have been an Ork, and if you look at his head, it's of a somewhat similar shape to the Avatar of Khaine and Eldar helmets.

[@antcow1239]

I have the theory that slaanesh wasnt born in warhammer 40K Rather the hedonisms of the Eldar was merely the blood sacrifice to bring him into direct contact with the W40K universe where before only his (Or her, whatever is more insulting.) demons could. Speaking of, i wonder when the rest of the chaos gods will be reveled? There are 8 points on that chaos undivided symbol, and the rat god has taken the 5th spot. And who is in the middle?

[@fallenthrope]

The middle is the Great Beast. All the gods together as a whole. Chaos undivided.

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

Well assuming other chaos gods exist. We need two more because malice takes its place. Quite frankly I don't think the 8 might actually refer to gods but rather the ever consuming power emanating from chaos itself. A spin on the cardinal directions.

[@antcow1239]

@@Aceshot-uu7yx Yeah, that and I also see them fusing together to make a god of chaos united. But thats me

[@Aceshot-uu7yx]

@@antcow1239 I don't see it happening. The great game itself serves all their interests. It is in essence the center from which its expansion flows. The more gods the more the game expands. There is no winner because to do so would stop expansion they all need. But if they did combine to one god of chaos united then I think the obvious answer would be them combining into dan abnett, the strongest chaos god of change for completely changing the 40k universe irreparably and expanding it.

[@antcow1239]

@@Aceshot-uu7yx Yeah, probably XD

[@nasigoring1525]

Why does belakor have to existed after slaanesh? Or more to the point, why does chaos undivided have to exist after slaanesh? Undivided doesn't specifically refer to 4 gods, perhaps when belakor first represented chaos undivided it was just undivided between khorne, tzeentch and nurgle, with slaanesh just coming later.

[@40KTheories]

You may wish to keep watching in regards to the "coming after Slaanesh" thing... :P

[@nasigoring1525]

@@40KTheories ah ok, i was listening in the car and reached my destination. I'll pick it up after. Cheers.

[@axelNodvon2047]

@@40KTheories Did i miss something? I watched the whole vid and nothing more about slaanesh was said

[@40KTheories]

It was more in regards to how it technically doesn't matter in regards to when Slaanesh was born, since once they come into existence they have by extension always existed, as seen with Slaaneshi daemons running around 65,000,000 years before Slaanesh's creation. By extension this means that Be'lakor can easily have come into existence prior to Slaanesh's birth.

[@williamings773]

New model hype.

[@Holdgentlylikeborgar]

Could he be a necrontyr who fell to chaos and ascended to daemon hood before the biotransference?

[@commandercostas]

What a well timed video

[@ProffessorYellow]

I think Bel'akor is a necrontir demon prince, by that i mean before the robotic upload of space jellyfish gods.

[@andrewnewell1142]

Eagerly awaiting Total Warhammer 3 where Belly’ache is bound to show up

[@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370]

Lo and behold, Warhammer's greatest tryhard.

[@yanakaizzz9335]

I reckon Be'lakor comes back, is enough to tip the scale back into balance, but not into Chaos victory. So the (sometime in our future) Games-ahem-The Chaos forces ascend Abaddon to ascended daemon hood to win the war. It seems to me that the win condition for Chaos is to plunge a galactic empire of some sort into sustainable chaos worship. Its not enough to just win.

[@Gormathius]

Couldn’t daemon princes conceivably ascend before the awakening of any of the chaos gods provided they manage to find the source somehow? I mean, based on how events coinciding with their respective domains always heralded their awakening (except in tzeentch’s case this is impossible to identify) presumably each chaos god’s domain is a lot older than the god itself.

[@40KTheories]

I touch up upon this in the video itself when talking about Shaha Gaathon

[@Gormathius]

@@40KTheories Must’ve missed that. Been a bit loopy lately.

[@WaterWheel990]

Here's my pointles fanfic: Be'lakor is an Old One who created Chaos as a weapon to fight the Necrontyr in the War in Heaven. It pooled all negative emotion in multiple dimensions into a force that he could wield to fight multiple C'tans at once, remake destroyed worlds, turn back time, or summon entire armies. Chaos grew in power and intelligence exponentially. Eventually the puppet strings he used to control it became chains that restricted his mind.

[@alextaylor2445]

How does this video have 2 views but 6 likes?! Clearly this is the works of the dark gods!

[@jimmyhassett3179]

I think it would be cool if you somehow could link belakor to Malal in some way

[@Johnnythat1dude]

Can't wait to see Abaddon and Archeon meet up from this endeavor, only to get buddy buddy and start going on friend vacations and taking walks to the beach. After all, who can the supreme lord of chaos in that universe truly relate to but another supreme lord of chaos?

[@NetMoverSitan]

2:22 - Strange as one thing that he's known as is "the armless". | 4:20 - If he predated the stellar confederation around the (Dark) Age of Technology, then that would likely be the case. | 5:15 - As in what caused most of the Aeldari to be eaten by the Dark Prince of Pleasure? | There's probably a universe out there, where the roles of the Primarchs are reversed, so it's not outside of possibility either.

[@Hawkens4k]

He was a good daemon.... What a rotten way to be banished....

[@kevyndaumas3804]

Nooo

[@JoaoPedro-sm6oi]

Was that The VA of Kaldor Draigo in TTS being serious? How no one is talking about this? That was incredible.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

its zorin the bear the voice actor of leman russ and lorn

[@JoaoPedro-sm6oi]

@@YOGI-kb9tg It's not, look at the descreption.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

@@JoaoPedro-sm6oi dude read the fucking line above it

[@JoaoPedro-sm6oi]

@@YOGI-kb9tg yea and i am talking of The Guy who dub Kaldor Draigo not Russ and Iorn, The person who dub him is not Zorin It's Germineye, só WTF are you talking about?

[@jacksonthomas1851]

Rewatching this just in time for us debut for Warhammer 3

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Ah, my old nemesis, it begins yet again!

[@rumatadestora]

Every "Origns of..." video on the channel ending with: "We can only speculate. What do you think? leave a comment below" ;)

[@Gormathius]

It’s a staple of the channel, just like every video about the Imperium including «during the events of the Horus Heresy...» at some point.

[@geraldstockstill889]

Mortarion vs Abaddon.

[@solobaggie]

His name is very similar to Belisarius Cawl..... long game being played maybe?

[@yadakakadu]

Now that would be an interesting way to write out an established character.

[@Fr33man]

Video in feed: 40k Theories -> 40k Views. I think its time to watch this.

[@Neo232100]

Okay...The possibility of Archaon and Abbadon fighting is incredibly fun to think about...who would win?

[@JJumper8888]

The moment you mentioned Kaldor I excepted nothing but utter nonsense, cuz well...what else to expect from 40k's resident memelord

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

So, crazy idea here. What if Bela'kor is Abaddon? We all know that the Warp royally screws with time so it's entirely possible that Abaddon eventually becomes a Daemon Prince and then, in revenge for being turned into a Daemon, he does all of what Bel'akor does

[@REA987]

Be'lakor should be either much more older than 10k years or due to being a Chaos entity it can bend time and space to some extend. Because, Be'lakor rules over Australian melodic death metal scene in 3rd millennium on ancient Terra. ;-)

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Didn't he create himself -paradox- Xaiver style?

[@cesarerinaldi6750]

If Be'lakor uses all four powers then maybe he also changes colour.😉 Red (with Fire) as Khorne, Purple (with Shadow) as Slaanesh, Blue (with Ice) as Tzeentch, Green (with Venom) as Nurgle.

[@chenli9778]

Well I really think maybe GW should consider making some thing like a all-star. Maybe make something like DOTA or hero of the storm on Table Top that give AOS, Old world, 30k and 40k and many other character from different time and space fight like gladiator.

[@XtreemAlan]

[You’re a mean one, Be’lakor]

[@monochrome2838]

A normal sounding Kaldor Draigo hurts my soul