The Overhead Press Is Underrated

[@mx_nana_banana]

it also teaches you how to keep your body rigid, because if you’ve got 20+ kilos above your head, you don’t want it coming straight down back down and crushing you.

[@gvngbvngiggy]

I actually find core stability to be the limiting factor in standing press rather than shoulder strength

[@gvngbvngiggy]

If you consistently do compound movements like this your core will be stronger than from any sort of direct work

[@bregottmannen2706]

20kg 💀💀

[@mx_nana_banana]

@@bregottmannen270620 kilos is the weight of an empty barbell btw.

[@ThaStonedGardner]

​@@bregottmannen2706 to be fair, he did have a plus sign with the 20. But yeah I only start getting worried about stability at 80kg.

[@danieldanielson2324]

OHP is one of those exercise where if I see someone pressing 135, it’s like watching bench 225. Solid benchmark of strength right there.

[@mohammadahmed6319]

nah 225 bench is more like 185 shoulder press.

[@wojciechsawicki4733]

@@mohammadahmed6319 depends really. I can rep 225 on the bench, there's no way I'm OHPing 185

[@mohammadahmed6319]

@ my ohp is 185 and bench 225 idk maybe my bench technique is bad

[@wojciechsawicki4733]

@@mohammadahmed6319 that's why I said it depends

[@headphoneman10]

@@mohammadahmed6319no chance, I can bench 140 lbs but can only ohp about 90

[@Ghost____Rider]

"we're tryna introduce some new ones at FitnessFAQs" 😂 that joke nearly flew over my head

[@percy.garou1001]

It still went over my head

[@johnbyrd3154]

What was the joke?

[@Sujay95]

Please explain the joke.

[@S_auce]

Something to do with fitness faq and only doing 1 type of head

[@johnbyrd3154]

@@S_auce Thank you! 🙏

[@xxFairestxx]

My max OHP is 225 and I love it. I always say show me someone with a heavy OHP and you’ll see big delts. Forget the BS about it being bad for lateral delts.

[@Air-Bonsai]

Right, if you want to isolate your side delts do lateral raises. But the overhead press is extremely essential to functional strength

[@xxFairestxx]

@ and it does build shoulders. A heavy OHP WILL develop big cannonball delts.

[@simo_wk]

As a calisthenics guy I train a lot with the ohp, it really helps build strength for planche

[@dannymeslier6658]

what about your HSPU?

[@Tazy50]

^not as scalable

[@aloe6287]

​@dannymeslier6658 It works too, but HSPU is harder to overload while ohp is very simple to overload.

[@dannymeslier6658]

@@aloe6287 few people can do sets of 20, even with the ground version

[@William1683BT]

@@Tazy50 still scaleable though, you can do deficit pike push ups at different feet elevatations and work your way up to deficit wall HSPUs, most people aren’t even strong enough to do 5 reps on deficit wall HSPUs so you really can’t outgrow it, obviously you can’t make small incremental 5lb jumps in weight but you can still scale it.

[@aborigine777]

It builds the upperback including traps too bro. Especially when done standing hits nearly every muscle feet to head my favorite is standing close-grip.

[@Liveforever898]

Does core too 👍🏻

[@foltgameeing]

Upper chest activation!

[@wojciechsawicki4733]

not enough people do close grip OHP. Most people who overhead press do it with a wide grip leaning back turning it into a standing incline press

[@adds2679]

@@wojciechsawicki473318yo me is guilty of that lol

[@polakuran204]

Yurr im sore in my upper back of yesterday ohp

[@mishan3168]

I will do ohp forever just because I enjoy this exercise.

[@seedingsoul]

Overhead presses fix my posture and make my body feel aligned

[@celinreyes1983]

Probably the most underrated exercise, yet the best for anterior deltoids and lateral deltoids in a lesser degree. I do overhead press and bench dips with enphasis on shoulders,overhead press, lateral raises, and high rows for rear deltoids. Trust me, that's more than enough for your whole shoulders.

[@papasitoman]

Upper body gains, and core strength; everything from glutes, to lower back, to abs, etc. I prefer to always call it an overhead press more than a "shoulder" press.

[@sammyttheg412]

They're different. Shoulder press is a machine press

[@s9preme]

All of the muscles you named only stabilize the movement, they don’t get stimulated enough for much if any growth. Or people would just use OHP and get to skip or reduce volume on like half of the muscles in your body.

[@d_page]

OHP is a must do exercise. Yes upright rows and lateral raises are better for muscle hypertrophy, the OHP is the absolute upper body strenght exercise along the barbell bench press and bent over row. Especially if one is nested in olympic weightlifting, everyone should OHP at least once a week.

[@ad_x.]

he was genuinely happy with the compliment 😬

[@i_want_my_shuggah]

That ending just reminded me of "Make push-ups great again".

[@siriusphillips2757]

Make compounds great again ‼️

[@ThaStonedGardner]

I love overhead pressing. Hang clean push press is my jam. I've been doing heavy seated presses and behind the neck standing strict presses lately. The behind the neck ones get far more than just your front delts going.

[@Admin-iv3hk]

Every gym session I do has at least one "athletic" compound full body/multi joint movement, this is one of them. I do them at the start of the workout.

[@alalal123421]

what are the others?

[@DenisChampagne2212]

It's the Lifters' Lift... just did a PR last night..205

[@30dynamo]

It truly teaches you also the benefits of gripping the bar or any sort of dumbell or weight hard and the benefits it further adds to the workout

[@dusk6159]

One session of ohp a week will be enough too, without two and varying ones. It will be great for strength, adaptation and readying yourself for other weights for other muscle groups and for that other volume for hypertrophy itself. No hypertrophy without some base and some capabilities.

[@JohnRhodes-lv3rg]

The press also works the back, rhomboids, etc. fantastic movement!

[@CameronDayDYT]

Some guys get huge delts from OHP, but I'm not one of them. Don't get me wrong, I love OHP and it's a staple for me, but my medial & posterior delts also need direct work to grow. It's probably just my genetics...not so gifted for delts, but also very gifted for triceps. All 3 of my tricep heads grow from ANY pressing movements, and they've always been easier to get big than any other muscle for me

[@edd.]

Great tips!! Thank you! 🙏

[@melanisticsoldier5816]

I think havin OHP in your shoulder routine is better for general strength and health rather than hypertrophy, it’ll build muscle obviously but don’t rely on it for muscle growth. I’d switch out any front delt movements you’ve got and prioritise OHP for the front delts then lateral raise and rear delt fly your way through the workout 🤙

[@grishawinner6727]

I understand people that do it for strength purposes. But if you are interested in it solely for aesthetic or hypertrophic reasons that is you want to have those wide delts, then you are better off doing more lateral raises & other rear delt exercises. You are already hitting the front delts when you doing the incline bench press. But again he’s coming from a calisthenics background and the OHP may have some benefits for those types of athletes. I’m just thinking for bodybuilding it is not that much of a necessity.

[@gvngbvngiggy]

For bodybuilding alone you dont have to do any compound movements at all probably. You can get big just working on machines.

[@William1683BT]

That’s literally been stated 50 million times already, lol. We know bodybuilders don’t care about strength and are fine with having weak shoulders.

[@razz444]

If that's the case then everyone who only benches would have delts that overpower their chests

[@Creature1009]

I bought into this for years and my shoulders grew fine sure. This past year I decided to seriously start shoulder pressing as I wasn’t getting the results I wanted from just lateral raises and chest pressing. Starting upper body days with dumbbell shoulder press and doing barbell ohp on another day has added considerable mass to my shoulders. I don’t think only doing chest pressing is enough.

[@William1683BT]

@@Creature1009 Yeah my shoulders respond well to vertical pressing as well.

[@manuelalbertoromerogarcia9495]

My best switch in training was dropping bench press in favour of OHP. One day standing with BB

[@charkyicenhour587]

3 major musckes... Everything minor around.... Incline bench, to awaken the weight stress before iso.

[@eduardoubilla4307]

Other benefit of the OHP is that it works the serratus and allows for proper scapular movement, something very needed if you do bench with your scapulas rigid.

[@charkyicenhour587]

1st) high incline bench.... blast them up!! 2nd) bentover, Rows.... attack the back delts. 3rd) during OHP, do the side lateral raizes. Between the sets. 4th) upright rows

[@DMoney_1984]

I love over head dumbbell or smith machine press, it’s a stable exercise when I get back to the gym after I’ve taken too much time off.

[@ksm1985]

I get cramp in my quad when I do standing shoulder press. Any idea why.

[@Carlos-n2g5j]

Similar but not the same I get a cramp in my calf when I do hack squat😢

[@Carlos-n2g5j]

I guess the power you are using. I feel the quads and glutes while OHP

[@ice.ringer1248]

As someone who’s trying to get into calisthenics…… All of my research on it suggested that overhead press is one of the best exercises to get started with

[@CashlessMilo92]

Me and my wife do home lifting which we don’t have bench or big Olympic bar and plates, only dumbbells and shoulder press is a must 2-3 times a week including push-ups through mostly every workout. But shoulder press is definitely top tier exercise! Works your whole body!

[@Charlieismycat]

I would caution people about the amount of stress the OHP puts on your spine. Try to time your use of it so it doesn't coincide with deadlift days. I had to disc herniations, and I'm certain all the extra stress I was placing on my spine played a role.

[@moisesc.6759]

Make compound exercises great again ✊🏾

[@tobias_george]

I love kettlebell presses and have been seeing steady progress for several months now. At 70kg, I'm getting really close to one of my original goals of pressing the 32kg (70lb), where 12kg used to be a struggle when just starting out. 50% bodyweight would be nice one day

[@RJBaldelli]

Make compound shoulder exercises great again!

[@FilmFlicks3358]

Machine shoulder press or Smith machine, only 2 I have at my gym, which is better?

[@lore2001]

i'd say the machine, bc the straight path of the smith makes the movement really uncomfortable and you can't do it right. i prefer doing it with dumbells tho

[@FilmFlicks3358]

@lore2001 thank you, if I can get better with balancing the dumbells ill definitely switch over, but for now I'm just gonna focus on progressing on the machine

[@chinnychinchin89]

Ok he is super lean on top of being highly trained, which is why you can see all those deltoid heads mate. Also, he didn't build his shoulders just using OHP, because while it is a compound, you are primarily using your front delts - some side and virtually no rear delt. You are using a lot of upper back and core just to stabilize your body as well.

[@Madchad6969]

One of the OG calisthenics KZbinr

[@davidwagner9644]

There have been 4 men in the history of the world to overhead press 227 kg (500lb) or more. Ken Petra of the United States was first. He overhead pressed 505lbs at a bodyweight of 305lbs. 542 lbs is the current record by a Ukrainian strong man but it is a push press where as Petra's is a strict press.

[@09thespecialone]

None of those presses were strict presses. In reality, the human limit of a legit strict press (with PEDs) is around 200 kg. Paul Anderson 182,5 kg clean and press is the true record.

[@davidwagner9644]

@09thespecialone they were all judged in Olympic competitions by Weightlifting Judges..

[@davidwagner9644]

@09thespecialone I am sorry but Anderson's 420 lb clean and press isn't that impressive when you factor in he weight 350 to 360lb.

[@09thespecialone]

@ 🤣

[@09thespecialone]

@ 😂

[@glynhannaford7332]

"Make the compound exercises great again." 👍

[@a2tgDE]

With a damaged/injured shoulder, I could only do 5-8 reps of 25kgs per set. Main limiting factor is fear of injuring myself again 🥺.

[@deltaisf67]

May be worth doing plenty of therapeutic shoulder excersizes consistently before going heavy on the overhead

[@fatmitch11]

I also have a shoulder injury, this year I did rehab for the best part of 6 months. For OHP I started with only a 15kg bar with some mild shoulder pain, and now able to press 42.5kg for 4 reps overhead with no pain. Still have some pain with other movements like push-ups, but it's slowly getting there. Obviously seek the right professional advice, but for me as long as the pain was only a 1 or 2 out of 10, I knew I wasn't doing more damage.

[@signs80]

Just go slow, if it doesn't hurt or feel unstable and weak then you are very likely not harming yourself

[@a2tgDE]

@@deltaisf67 I've had therapy, rehab and reconditioning for like a year, and further strengthening of surrounding muscles as well to better lift, carry, and stabilize my shoulder. It's been a long and still ongoing process.

[@crispybacon9917]

I do overhead press because i like putting heavy(ok that's debatable) stuff above me

[@dlvox5222]

I prefer heavy behind the neck military press as a primary for shoulders. Recruits fewer other muscle groups.

[@dune7824]

Same here. It's an incredible movement.

Among all the exercises I train, probably the overhead press is the one that makes me feel the worst: simply, I can't progress. I am very weak, just a 1RM of 48 kg for 76 kg BW, and despite I train it every week, along with other shoulder exercises, the progress is just ridiculously low, almost non existent. I started to think that this is my max potential, and as it has always been a weakness, there is not much I could do besides continuing training it, although it won't answer to the training.

[@armenalexanian]

For me OHP is so sensitive to small increases in weight. I would be the Hulk if I could do 135 x 10 reps.

[@chrisfit365]

Ohp is such a great movement. Helps mobility too

[@28mrenglish]

OHP personally feel rather painfull for my upper back and traps... Is this normal ? How Can i correct this ? And are dips sufficient for shoulder growth ? Thanks everyone !

[@ikrammaududi6205]

You need mobility exercises

[@redriot2235]

dips dont hit shoulders :laughingemoji: just do dumbells overhead or a machine I guess if you dont feel the bar.

[@mihailopopovic4759]

I want to hear more about those 7 heads

[@eXtnce]

A few authors divide the deltoid in 7 segments, the first being in the front at the clavicule and then the numbers go up to 7 around the shoulder to the back. They do so because the segments 1, 5, 6 and 7 are in fact adductors when the arm is not in an elevated position. They start being abductors when the other parts abduct the arm high enough. Kapandji has a chapter on the subject in his physiology of the joints book, where he states the theory goes back to Fick (1911)

[@mihailopopovic4759]

@@eXtnce Thanks man!

[@eXtnce]

@@mihailopopovic4759 you're welcome :) have a great day!

[@mihailopopovic4759]

@@eXtnce It's night but thanks!

[@gvngbvngiggy]

Not to mention that being able to press a lot of weight overhead is actually useful in comparison to just training for aesthetics. But theres no way you can press your bodyweight for reps and have small shoulders.

[@JoeFromSomewhere2303]

As a person who can do at least one hand stand pushup (im up to 6-8 reps per set now), gotta say i love the handstsnd push up. Takes no equipment, its hard af, works out my core. Only downside is i have fallen over before and landed on my head. But those didnt break me lol

[@qdis662]

"Make Compounds Great Again!"

[@Robc--jd6yh]

Does little for side or rear delta

[@ryangallagher6356]

Make compound exercises great again

[@B_rizzzzz]

Love his physique

[@tushnikdas8307]

But it's nothing compared to lateral raises bcz laterals targets the side delts which cannot be indirectly or directly target by any movement also thats the biggest delt your front delts get hit a lot with any pushing movement like bench or pushups

[@emrickfilteau6288]

Hurt my shoulder, not doing it since 1 year. Shoulder looking better from focusing on lateral raise with cable machine

[@TheSuperLegoMan100]

I love this exercise except it always gives me really bad back pain 😢

[@pepecebolla69]

this probably happens because you're leaning back as you press. try bracing your core and avoiding leaning back too much. You might have to lower the weight, and that's ok

[@Joseph-v9q]

Try doing them seated with the bench backrest set at a high incline instead of completely vertical... Less stress on the back...

[@beski9751]

Maaan the OHP is really underrated. I started doing it only last week but boooy are the results so impressive I even quit doing other delt exercises. Highly recommended 👌

[@Soul.Rotterdam]

Thank you so much

[@mpumeleloxulu1951]

Dr Mike disagrees, I’m going with his word

[@AkhilStark267]

My OHP is 75kgs right now 😌

[@a.lame.username.]

I got 7 heads on my shoulders 🤘

[@joshuagarcia5822]

Make deltoid heads great again!

[@darkzeus28]

Excellent

[@Flocked147]

Lateral raise

[@TheBlank8234]

My lower back usually bothers me when I try to dumbbell or barbell OHP. I can usually use machines without that issue. Anything I should be doing to fix that?

[@leonardorivas5580]

Overhead press front of head or back of head? Or both?

[@tylerbrooks2492]

What if youve had two surgeries on the same shoulder

[@mwx6907]

Can you provide a translation option in your videos because I do not speak English well When I go to the translation option, it shows me that the translation option is not available

[@Nikoseidon]

will I be able to do handstand push ups if I Can over head press my own bodyweight ?

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

Probably but handstand pushups requires a lot more balance

[@Nikoseidon]

@Akotski-ys9rr sure but what about strength ?

[@esso0527]

Love OHP! Bit disappointed when Mike Isratel bashed it as not being as effective as people think. I still do it on my upper body training despite his advice.

[@scotedwards1245]

Yeah but in terms of efficiency for hypertrophy his point stands; there's many better exercises to improve deltoid, chest + tricep size without the level of fatigue OHP causes.

[@Steve_Schiffenhaus]

He’s not wrong though

[@ChronicalV]

you have got to link the full video, i've checked all the videos i could find with the two of you and can't seem to find this

[@axosniper10]

the link is right between his channel logo and the title of this short

[@ChronicalV]

@axosniper10 not the video in the short

[@Doris-i4x]

I found the link to full vid your after. It’s called “Is Overhead Press Good for Building Muscle? Uploaded 8mths ago. Happy viewing mate!

[@AstroSully]

Does this still apply to incline shoulder press?

[@BerleyGaming]

Is it okay to do this training, even tho i have a Double curve scoiliosis ?. Ngl im scared that it going to make my scoliosis worse, but at the same time i want to train my shoulder so bad 😭

[@daniel-eg2oq]

Odell has been more interested in fame than football for awhile

[@a4tay]

Please don't tell me you just said Make Shoulders Great Again.

[@deltaphi9770]

'Make compound exercises great again'.. grow up will you 🤦‍♂️

[@noeljoel9330]

I remember the first time I did it, I really enjoyed but when I progressed the weight my lower back was really hurting from it so I stopped and wanted to make some progress on my deadlifts and core exercises for sometime. It has been like 2 months now, I guess I will try it on my session tomorrow with the last weight I was struggling with and see how I have progressed. Someone tell me if this makes sense from your experience or just the science of it...

[@shenronom2070]

Makes sense. Use a weightlifting belt next time you lift - you'll feel the difference 👍🏾

[@Adade999]

Make compound exercises great again😅

[@yazzyakam7753]

Your back aswell mate

[@thor498]

Shouldernpress is a upper trap movement to shruks got nothing on overheadpresses!

[@inocybe91]

Yeah 5/3/1 bbb 😊

[@SolRC]

What about push press ?

[@09thespecialone]

It’s a leg exercise. It doesn’t test upper body strength at all.

[@roshantjoy4871]

Lateral raises🗿

[@lawson3905]

I ruined my shoulder doing OHP

[@charkyicenhour587]

Same as.... why Lat pull downs?!! Noo. Start with. Sit cable pulls. Mass amountof weight. Before Lat pulldowns.

[@dannabass]

Getting buttered up by Eugene

[@jayk5825]

Make Deltoids Great Again has a familiar ring to it.

[@nicholasfevelo3041]

Don’t tell Mike israetel

[@brianholt594]

“Make them great again” I see what you did there😂

[@gamesbaluyot9623]

Hi Daniel

[@electriceyeball]

This guy taught me how to maximize deltoids with my pushups and pullups, really everything. Helped finalize years of fixing weird birth defects at the tender age of 51. Eternal thanks. One day muscle-ups!

[@neerajsingh-nc8on]

How do you not have stretch mark, I started gym and I am getting strechmarks

[@monocyte2210]

i can oly OHP 50 lbs

[@Kipchoge475]

As a brokie who doesn't go to the gym,I do overhead press with gas cylinders.😂

[@DILLWIZARD]

7 deltoid heads??

[@gm9460]

Who underrates this? Calisthenics people?

[@DarthNoshitam]

Mike Israetel 😂

[@elkhisinio]

Yea mostly

[@atharva-naik]

Also regular folk lol. My gym bro who I workout with hates doing shoulders and regularly skips them. The closest he'll get to a press is an incline bench press 😂

[@Kamal-x01]

Please sports me😢😢😢😢😢

[@AMANDEEPSINGH-c8f]

Wow

[@aalytoks9755]

Classis bodybuilder unable to overhead press😂