The overpowered Laplace technique for summing series.

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Michael Penn

Michael Penn

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@timothywaters8249
@timothywaters8249 Жыл бұрын
Mind blown... We used Laplace transforms to solve diff eqs... a lot. Using it like this opens your mind. I love pure maths more and more every day!
@MarcoMate87
@MarcoMate87 Жыл бұрын
At 7:00, we must require both a and b to be > -1 to ensure absolute convergence for both integrals. In fact, take for example the first Laplace transform: multiplying e^(-nt) with e^(-at) under the integral sign, we have e^[-t(n+a)]. Remember that t > 0, so for the integral to converge for every natural n > 0 we need n+a > 0 for every natural n > 0. This is true if and only if a > -1. The same goes for b.
@Kycilak
@Kycilak Жыл бұрын
Well... He assumed a,b to be nonnegative integers right at the start, didn't he?
@lorenzovittori7853
@lorenzovittori7853 Жыл бұрын
Very cool but a and B cannot be the same
@GeoffryGifari
@GeoffryGifari Жыл бұрын
even if a and b are both positive? r/b-a will blow up but Xᵃ - Xᵇ will go to zero. hmmmm its not apparent that a=b is invalid from the series alone
@aliinci1874
@aliinci1874 Жыл бұрын
you can take a limit as b approaches a and notice it is the derivative of x^(a) with respect to a
@spoolster64
@spoolster64 Жыл бұрын
@@aliinci1874 can confirm. Evaluating for b approaches a at a=0 r=1 you find the solution to the basel problem
@lorenzovittori7853
@lorenzovittori7853 Жыл бұрын
@@GeoffryGifari of a=b u can't use partial fraction decomposition, not in the way Michael did
@jesusalej1
@jesusalej1 Жыл бұрын
a=b is a special case of decomposition.
@mathematics_and_energetics
@mathematics_and_energetics 2 ай бұрын
simply WOW! 🌺Thank you, dear Michael! 🙏🥳😎
@panagiotissismanis7387
@panagiotissismanis7387 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!! A very interesting point of view linking infinite series to integrals!! Keep up the great job, Mike!!...
@whozz
@whozz Жыл бұрын
The formula only works for a != b. Can we use limits to extend it for the a = b case?
@damyankorena
@damyankorena Жыл бұрын
Computer scientist spotted!!!!!!!!! Also just take the original problem and consider the case a=b and you kind of just solve it from there
@DendrocnideMoroides
@DendrocnideMoroides Жыл бұрын
Say a == b, not a = b.
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser Жыл бұрын
A bit of a basic question, but at 13:35, when performing the u substitution, why is it okay to write sqrt(u^2)=u instead of |u|? The way Michael did it in the video, after writing dx=2udu you're left with u^2 on the numerator while I would have thought the result to be |u|*u Thank you.
@michaelguenther7105
@michaelguenther7105 Жыл бұрын
Both x and u are positive on the interval (0, 1).
@IoT_
@IoT_ Жыл бұрын
The integration is within the interval which is more or equal to zero ,i.e. from 0 to 1
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser Жыл бұрын
@@michaelguenther7105 Of course! Thanks.
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser Жыл бұрын
@@IoT_ Thank you!
@khoozu7802
@khoozu7802 Жыл бұрын
Actually if u=-sqrtx, x=1,u=-1,u can be negative However, u=sqrtx and u=-sqrtx are the same integral Let x=u^2 and -sqrtx=u dx=2udu x=0,u=0 x=1,u=-1 ∫_(0,1) sqrtx/(x-1)dx =∫_(0,-1) -u/(u^2-1)*2udu =∫_(-1,0) 2u^2/(u^2-1)du =∫_(0,1) 2u^2/(u^2-1)du Because it is an even function
@Qoow8e1deDgikQ9m3ZG
@Qoow8e1deDgikQ9m3ZG 2 ай бұрын
the part let x=u^2 and x=u^3 and put together should be wrong, but the Laplace method is really genius
@qschroed
@qschroed Жыл бұрын
an interesting case analysis of the formula would be at r=1 a = 0 and b approaching 0 as a limit, the value of this should be the basel sum
@franksaved3893
@franksaved3893 Жыл бұрын
At the end the case r=0 works and gives 0 not because ln(1)=0, but because the limit of all that stuff is 0 for r->0
@thatdude_93
@thatdude_93 Жыл бұрын
you can't really use dominated convergence here, but monotone convergence will do since we're summing positive terms
@lori2364
@lori2364 Жыл бұрын
A thing of beauty.
@Lakedaimōn-h8j
@Lakedaimōn-h8j Жыл бұрын
7:21 Why are the sigma and integral interchangeable?
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser Жыл бұрын
There is a theorem about this which has to do with different types of convergence, I think when you have "absolute" convergence then it is okay to make the switch. Maybe someone can expand on my answer.
@xizar0rg
@xizar0rg Жыл бұрын
The "Dominated Convergence Theorem". Basically says as long as your series is 'nicely behaved', you can swap the order. (*very* oversimplified explanation of 'nice' in this case is absolutely bounded and converges at every value of the summation index. don't use this explanation in your homework.)
@divisix024
@divisix024 Жыл бұрын
Iirc the condition for dominanted convergence is that (or at least in one of the versions) there is a nonnegative function such that at each point within the integration bounds, the expression doesn’t exceed the function regardless of n, and that the function is integrable
@GeoffryGifari
@GeoffryGifari Жыл бұрын
hmmm can the resulting integral be solved with contour integration?
@HerbertLandei
@HerbertLandei Жыл бұрын
[Edit: This is wrong, but just in case someone else has the same brainfart] 14:06 is clearly wrong, it should be Integral u/(u²-1)du and Integral u/(u³-1)du.
@leif_p
@leif_p Жыл бұрын
I think you forgot to multiply the dx terms.
@megauser8512
@megauser8512 Жыл бұрын
No, it is right because of the du term.
@HerbertLandei
@HerbertLandei Жыл бұрын
​@@megauser8512 Sorry, you are right.
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser Жыл бұрын
Very satisfying method I agree.
@jbtechcon7434
@jbtechcon7434 Жыл бұрын
0:54 Yeah, that's the problem with most of what you learn in school. It only works in school.
@khoozu7802
@khoozu7802 Жыл бұрын
The calculation in first example was wrong. U should integrate them separately because when x=u^2, u=sqrtx, x=1-, u=sqrt(1-), when x=u^3, u=cbrtx, x=1-, u=cbrt(1-) If u assumed x=1, u=sqrt1=1 and u=cbrt1=1, u will get wrong in final answer.
@goodplacetostop2973
@goodplacetostop2973 Жыл бұрын
18:45
@koendos3
@koendos3 Жыл бұрын
Sums are my favorites
@cd-zw2tt
@cd-zw2tt Жыл бұрын
region of convergence
@AmitBentabou
@AmitBentabou Жыл бұрын
I dont feel comfortable in that change of variables. It feels like because of the limit nature of integrals, youre doing there two different infinite limits with the same variable taken at the same time, something that is not entirely rigorous. Can you explain why you are allowed to do that?
@randomlife7935
@randomlife7935 Жыл бұрын
Since the original series is absolutely convergent, then any change of variables or order is valid.
@Kycilak
@Kycilak Жыл бұрын
Well, you can tear the former integral into two, do the change of variable for each of them as Michael has done. The variables used in the change should probably differ as they result from different changes, but we can rename the variable we integrate over as we please. Then we would be left with the addition of the two integrals over the same integral, which can be joined again. Schematically: int_0^1 [ f(x) + g(x) ] dx = int_0^1 f(x) dx + int_0^1 g(x) dx = int_0^1 h(u) du + int_0^1 k(v) dv = int_0^1 h(u) du + int_0^1 k(u) du = int_0^1 [ h(u) + k(u) ] du The thing is we are able to do this because both of the changes of variables give the same interval (0, 1) "by coincidence".
@Patapom3
@Patapom3 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@minwithoutintroduction
@minwithoutintroduction Жыл бұрын
19:21
@hhlavacs
@hhlavacs Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always
@khoozu7802
@khoozu7802 Жыл бұрын
13.36 He said dx=2udu but he wrote du=2udu
@CM63_France
@CM63_France Жыл бұрын
Hi, I used this technic, when I was about 20, to study this functional series : f(x)=1/(x+1)-1/(x+2)+1/(x+3)-... , and show that it had some thing to do with (pi x) / (sin pi x). Knowing, now, that that is equal to gamma(1-x) gamma(1+x), may be I could retrieve my function out of the gamma function. 🤔
@joansgf7515
@joansgf7515 Жыл бұрын
By the same method on the video I reduced -sum_{n=1}^{infty} (-1)^n/(n+x) to int_0^infty e^-(1+x)t/(1+e^(-t)) dt. I'm not sure if I did it right and if it is how it is related to gamma(1-x)gamma(1+x).
@joansgf7515
@joansgf7515 Жыл бұрын
When plotted on Desmos the integral is a really got approximation for gamma(1-x)gamma(1+x) in the interval (-1,-1/2]
@natanfreire8692
@natanfreire8692 Жыл бұрын
This is interesting
@erfanmohagheghian707
@erfanmohagheghian707 Жыл бұрын
This is not really overpowered when you can turn the summand into an integral as already shown by yourself.
@CTJ2619
@CTJ2619 Жыл бұрын
Check it out !
@CTJ2619
@CTJ2619 Жыл бұрын
This is a pet peeve of mine that I have written about before. When you say (a lot) “something like” it assumes you are putting an approximation to the answer rather than saying “the answer is or will be”
@naseramiri8332
@naseramiri8332 Жыл бұрын
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