The P-47 Thunderbolt's Controversial Ancestor - Seversky P-35 | Aircraft History 112

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Today we're looking at the Seversky P-35, one of the pioneering monoplane fighters developed in the United States just before the Second World War.
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0:00 Intro
1:24 Design Origins
8:27 P-35 Enters Into Production
12:55 Service & Political Controversy
15:35 P-35A & Swedish J-9
20:38 US Service History & WW2
25:30 Late Prototypes & Legacy
Sources:
Enzo.A & Bowers.P.M (1987), The American Fighter. - amzn.to/3Du7EvR
Davis.L (1994) P-35: Mini in Action. - amzn.to/3Du7rbM
Green.W & Swanborough.F.G (1979), "The End of the Beginning...The Seversky P-35". Air Enthusiast.
Swanborough.F.G (1963), United States Military Aircraft Since 1909. - amzn.to/473KhXx

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@RexsHangar
@RexsHangar 10 ай бұрын
Check out Ikarus Art here → ikarusart.net/ and use the code REX to get 10% off your order. F.A.Q Section Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both. Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos? A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :) Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators? A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible.
@DIREWOLFx75
@DIREWOLFx75 10 ай бұрын
Another thing about the J9, probably by far THE most important part, is that it gave Sweden access to a modern highperformance aircraft engine(we had perfectly fine aircraft engines already being made, but absolutely nothing suitable for fighters), which after the US embargo was outright copied and modified to allow local manufacturing despite a lack of some required materials. This also ended up making the modified engined actually improved. The engine was then used in the J22, B17 and B18 aircraft. And after the war, P&W were impressed enough by the improvements that they agreed to a retroactive license for the engine for a token payment (1 SEK IIRC) and the blueprints for the upgrades. The copy and upgrade work is also what gave SFA ( Svenska Flygmotor AB (originally the locomotive manufacturer Nydqvist&Holm AB, and then NOHAB flygmotorfabriker(NOHAB aircraft engine factories)) ) which later becomes Volvo Aero, it's first serious skills with making high performance aircraft engines. So, the aircraft was absurdly important out of scale with the numbers built or it's level of capability.
@gyrene_asea4133
@gyrene_asea4133 10 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation on an important but largely forgotten aircraft. Thanks.
@gabrielneves6602
@gabrielneves6602 10 ай бұрын
when p 47 video?
@alexdarcydestsimon3767
@alexdarcydestsimon3767 9 ай бұрын
​@@DIREWOLFx75 best comment !
@TheDkeeler
@TheDkeeler 10 ай бұрын
The Italians loved the Seversky P-35 so much so it was the basis for the Reggiane Re 2000Falco . Sweden procured this one as well. They have one on display in their museum along with the P-35. Would love to visit that museum. Thanks Rex.
@Bruno-zg4cx
@Bruno-zg4cx 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video of this derivation and all the subsequent Legacy: it's stunning to see how starting from two similar projects you can reach two very different destinations
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 10 ай бұрын
@@Bruno-zg4cx Yeah, through P-41 and P-43 to the P-47 on one side, and through Re.2001 and Re.2002 to Re.2005 on the other.
@MrLBPug
@MrLBPug 10 ай бұрын
Chris from the Military Aviation History channel visited the Swedish Air Force Museum not too long ago. I'm not sure whether the P-35 and the Re.2000 were featured in his tour as I cannot clearly remember that, but you should check out his channel.
@michaeltelson9798
@michaeltelson9798 10 ай бұрын
2 or 3 of the engineers at Seversky were Italians. They left Seversky to rejoin Reggiane. You can see the lineage of the P-35 in the entire line of Reggiane designs. Just look at the tail structures and the wing shape. The Re.2005 was the sleek second cousin of the P-47
@farmingtonfakenamington3048
@farmingtonfakenamington3048 10 ай бұрын
Hungary also bought Re 2000s and made their own Heja variants based on it
@mitchelloates9406
@mitchelloates9406 10 ай бұрын
The library in our town was established in the 1930's. It had quite a few books from the late 1930's onwards still on the shelves, especially in the military section, when I started being a frequent visitor to it in the early 70's. One in particular I came across, was written by none other than Alexander Seversky himself. Best I remember, it was published around 1941. It was a treatise on the theory and application of air power, and aircraft design. It included his analysis of the aerial combat that was going on in Europe, in particular the Battle of Britain. I remember one drawing, illustrating a point he was making regarding aircraft armament, showing a Hurricane attacking a German bomber. There were quite a few books like that, first and second editions, from that era. One was by Ted Lawson, pilot of the B-25 "Ruptured Duck" in the Doolittle Raid, detailing his experiences before, during, and after that operation. Another was titled "Wake Island Command", written by the actual naval commander of Wake Island - who contrary to Hollywood scriptwriters, survived the Japanese attack and capture of the island - gave his account of the battle for the island, and his subsequent experience as a POW until the end of the war. Little did I realize at the time, what a gold mine of first-hand historical accounts I had at my fingertips.
@brucebeauvais1324
@brucebeauvais1324 10 ай бұрын
Our library also had copies of “Victory though Air Power” and “30 seconds over Tokyo” . Like you ,I devoured them. Later I picked up a copy of “ Victory though Air Power”. It remains in my library.
@dannynye1731
@dannynye1731 6 ай бұрын
My university library had a similar selection in the 80s. We had bound collections of The Aeroplane and Aviation Week too and aviation engineering books back to 1913. Great fun
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 10 ай бұрын
It'll never cease to amaze that even in 1935, just 4 years before WW2, a single .30 cal and a single .50 cal were considered adequate armament, 300 MPH was considered a blazing fast top speed, and all metal construction was still a cutting edge modern feature. Just ten years later, aircraft were pushing 600 MPH, most had at least six .50 cals if not four 20 or 30mm cannons, and the thought of using any but metal in a fighter just didn't exist.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 9 ай бұрын
And roughly ten years after that, Mach 2+...
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 10 ай бұрын
Wow....this thing is stubby and tubby. It's freaking adorable 😅
@joshstanton267
@joshstanton267 10 ай бұрын
They shoulda called it the House Cat.
@Iden_in_the_Rain
@Iden_in_the_Rain 10 ай бұрын
It’s literally a baby mode P-47
@ridleymain9234
@ridleymain9234 10 ай бұрын
@@Iden_in_the_Rainl feel like the p-43 is more like a baby p-47 though
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 10 ай бұрын
@ridleymain9234 I think the P35 and the P43 had a baby and it turned into the P47 😄😄
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 10 ай бұрын
​@@admiraltiberius1989They overfed the baby....
@TheNinjaGumball
@TheNinjaGumball 4 ай бұрын
those shots of the P-35 from underneath really show that P-47 wing silhouette
@sheepFP5
@sheepFP5 10 ай бұрын
I love the sev-3 design, the way the float integrates with the body curves is beautifully chunky. Also, Seversky's semi elliptical wing design was one of the very few successful non NACA wing profiles, and managed to have a proper elliptical area distribution despite having a straight leading edge! What a genius
@cjmanson5692
@cjmanson5692 10 ай бұрын
For those who are interested, there is a two-seat version of the P-35, known as the AT-12 Guardsman, at the Planes of Fame Air Museum in Chino, CA. EDIT: And she flies too.
@angusclark8330
@angusclark8330 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@jlsperling1
@jlsperling1 9 ай бұрын
Those were also ordered by Sweden. Only three or four of the original order reached Sweden as the B3, with the rest going to the USAAF.
@stephenmeier4658
@stephenmeier4658 10 ай бұрын
Been working on a scale model "P-47 family tree" and it begins with this plane. Reggiane and Heja made versions of this design as well, and Reggiane kept the tail the same, even up to the 2005 model.
@Jedi.Toby.M
@Jedi.Toby.M 10 ай бұрын
Another banger of an episode! This chunky little plane is adorable...but I'm sure that wasn't something that mattered to the Army. I'm reminded of a popular saying: if it looks right, built right, it should fly right...unless it's manufactured by Blackburn. 😂
@angusclark8330
@angusclark8330 10 ай бұрын
Miaow. Yer Buccaneer, which embarrassed American ground defence on more than one occasion while it was being "retired" in the 70s/ 80s...
@josephparisi1458
@josephparisi1458 10 ай бұрын
Most Blackburn planes didn't look right though lol
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 9 ай бұрын
Blackburn Aviation never quite seemed able to advance their designs beyond being at worst near-failures,(Skua), and at best, (Buccaneer), rather mediocre...
@lexington476
@lexington476 10 ай бұрын
I have an odd fascination with the P-35 for some reason. An old design by the start of the war, but it still saw a little bit of service.
@HarryVoyager
@HarryVoyager 10 ай бұрын
Greg's Airplanes and Autos ended up talking about the performance of the P-35 during one of his P-47 videos. Apparently NACA did a bunch of aerodynamics testing on the 1930's fighters, including the P-35. The P-35 turns out to have an absolutely fantastic wing design, that ends up having extremely low high speed drag. That's part of why the P-35 was so fast, and they just carried the wing design forward to the P-43 and later P-47. It was a good enough wing design that when they tried a laminar flow design later in WWII, it didn't offer a measurable improvement in performance. It wasn't a perfect wing; it has a low stall AoA, and some other issues in anything other than unloaded flight, but it was way ahead of its time. Seversky may have been a bad business man, but the wing he designed was exceptional.
@Dougeb7
@Dougeb7 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering so many interwar aircraft, Rex! I'm enjoying your content!
@warhawk4494
@warhawk4494 10 ай бұрын
I used to hate this plane as a little kid but as I got older I realized the P-35 got handed the short of the stick and 90% of the time she was caught on the ground and destroyed before she could fight. So I've warmed up to the P-35 since. Lol i kinda wish they would add these to warthunder in the american tech tree.
@John.McMillan
@John.McMillan 10 ай бұрын
I could have sworn it is in the WT tech tree. Maybe it's a later or earlier model.
@damiangaming5696
@damiangaming5696 10 ай бұрын
@@John.McMillan It was an event aircraft
@jaiell2049
@jaiell2049 10 ай бұрын
Isn't it in the Chinese tech tree?
@CentralPALocos
@CentralPALocos 10 ай бұрын
They have a P-43A in the USA tree as an event vehicle and a P-43A researchable in the Chinese tree. A P-35 exists in the game files for the USA abs Sweden but it has yet to be implemented
@teslashark
@teslashark 10 ай бұрын
@@jaiell2049 That's the P-43A
@The_Bermuda_Nonagon
@The_Bermuda_Nonagon 10 ай бұрын
There is a beautiful P-35 in the National Museum of the United States Air Force in Dayton, Ohio. I hope to go there and visit some day. They have a B-36J Peacemaker - INDOORS ! :D
@applicationuser9764
@applicationuser9764 10 ай бұрын
Oh you have no IDEA what's there. You HAVE to go. As soon as possible. Take lots of cameras. After that do the SAC museum in Omaha.
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 10 ай бұрын
B-58 Hustler steals the show.😎 Magnificent museum. Make time to visit the marker stone paths. Horribly underutilized monuments with fascinating bits of history, art, and dedications engraved on them.
@Rom3_29
@Rom3_29 10 ай бұрын
Good reason for a long road trip.
@Chilly_Billy
@Chilly_Billy 10 ай бұрын
One of my favorite aircraft designs. Not a particularly good fighter, but with terrific esthetics.
@abdyblanco4870
@abdyblanco4870 10 ай бұрын
It's a very esthetically pleasing aircraft to look at
@grahamepigney8565
@grahamepigney8565 10 ай бұрын
Not sure about it being aesthetic. Short, stubby, overly large canopy, Compared to the Hurricane, Mustang, Spitfire, Thunderbolt, Dewotine D520, ME-109 the P-35 looks like a Tonka toy and by all accounts behaved like an under-powered Tonka toy.
@intercommerce
@intercommerce 9 ай бұрын
To each his own! I think the plane, particularly the curved hump & canopy, looks ugly! Much prefer the P-47D & onwards with the clear, single-piece canopy
@intercommerce
@intercommerce 9 ай бұрын
​@@grahamepigney8565Agreed, its an ugly M.F....
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 9 ай бұрын
​@@intercommerce You're overlooking the extremely rapid advance of fighter design in the mid-1930's. Compared to the Republic P-35's immediate USAAC predecessor, the Boeing P-26 Peashooter, the P-35 was light-years ahead...
@richardm3023
@richardm3023 10 ай бұрын
There was a really good article about the Seversky P-35 in Swedish service in 'Wings' magazine back in the 80's. apparently they stayed in service with the Swedes until the 1980's as trainers.
@Snobiker13
@Snobiker13 10 ай бұрын
No, they were retired in the 1950s. They were a very important part of Sweden's air defence from 1940 to 1944.
@richardm3023
@richardm3023 10 ай бұрын
@@Snobiker13 i found that magazine in my box of old stuff. The title is "The Last Seversky in service with the Swedish Air force". They used the 2 seater as a trainer and utility aircraft until the 80's. I wish I could post it for you, but have no idea how, and my daughter tells me that I should go back to the patio and smoke another cigar.
@jaykita2069
@jaykita2069 10 ай бұрын
Great video. My dad had been in the Air Corps during WW2, largely because of deSevesky's book "Victory through Air Power". The copy is long gone, but I recalled several odd comments that only became understandable with the background on the airplane. The book featured several paeans to the Airacuda, disparaging references to the Air Corps being unreceptive to wing mounted guns, and the wonder that the P-35 "modified for export" (without mention of airframe or engine changes) being much stronger than the fighter under test. It seems to me that the theorizing of Air Power advocates in the 1930's might make a very good video. The gaps between the conception of the Norden Bombsight and its eventual performance alone would be an illuminating part of that history.
@leandrocosta3709
@leandrocosta3709 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait for a P-43 episode :D
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 9 ай бұрын
When the Seversky P-35 was first introduced, it was light-years ahead of it's immediate predecessor by only several years, the Boeing P-26 Peashooter. Sadly, the P-35 was itself made obsolescent in less than a couple of years by the far superior Curtiss P-36 Hawk....
@flashbaggins427
@flashbaggins427 10 ай бұрын
Heres hoping we get the middle child as well, the P-43 :D
@thedensecheesewiz
@thedensecheesewiz 10 ай бұрын
The P-35 is such a pretty aircraft, thanks for bringing some light to an littleknown aircraft!
@robbierobinson8819
@robbierobinson8819 10 ай бұрын
Very nice to have you back with your inimitable presentation. This a very interesting aircraft and you give it excellent coverage.
@mh53j
@mh53j 10 ай бұрын
I bought a used library book in New Hampshire back in the mid 70s: Victory through Air Power by Alexander P. de Seversky. Still have it somewhere; published in 42 or 43 i think. Had pictures of the Bell Airacuda in it! A Bugs Bunny cartoon (with the Gremlins) referenced it as "Victory through Harepower".
@garryferrington811
@garryferrington811 10 ай бұрын
A Bob Clampett cartoon, if I remember correctly, and very funny.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 9 ай бұрын
"Gee folks,...do ya think that might've been a ...gremlin?" Gremlin climbs up and yells in Bug's ear: "IT AIN'T WENDELL WILKIE, BUB!!"... 😂😂😂
@basilreid257
@basilreid257 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for filling in the gaps on this overlooked fighter you do a good service.👍🏻
@johnforsyth7987
@johnforsyth7987 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video Rex. Would love to see a video on the P-43 Lancer or the Reg. 2000 Falco.
@drydogg
@drydogg 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Keep up the good and I hope you feel better.
@garychisholm2174
@garychisholm2174 10 ай бұрын
Rex, would you do a deep dive on the Northrop XFT? It's fascinating because for some reason no-one could give up on it no matter how much it sucked. It took the IJN buying the last prototype and declaring it too dangerous to live for it to finally hit the dustbin. I'm pretty sure each airframe killed a pilot, including Frank Scare.
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 10 ай бұрын
Frank Scare is a probable since it's not known what happened to him and the aircraft.
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 10 ай бұрын
Just what I needed today, a Rex's Hangar video. Thanks much! Cheers.
@AndrewGivens
@AndrewGivens 7 ай бұрын
That's a hell of a 'repair'. One might almost call it naughty. I can see why Curtiss-Wright were so annoyed when their Hawk 75 was ready to go.
@stephenwarhurst6615
@stephenwarhurst6615 10 ай бұрын
The Italians wanted to buy and build the P-35 under licence. and because they were not allowed too by the USA they just made a copy of the P-35 and called it the Reggiane Re.2000 Falco
@MrLBPug
@MrLBPug 10 ай бұрын
For making a copy, Reggiane would have had to have the blueprints for the P-35. Which they didn't. Which means that the Re.2000 was _inspired_ by the P-35 (and to a lesser extent the P-36), but it was definitely an indigenous Italian design. It only made its first flight in 1939, while the P-35 already did so in 1935. Aeronautical engineers, even Italian ones, were savvy enough to see that the P-35's design was becoming obsolescent by that time.
@BishopStars
@BishopStars 10 ай бұрын
​@@MrLBPugsame way the Tupolev Tu-144 and Buran were just indigenous designs inspired by the vehicles they cloned?
@RANDALLBRIGGS
@RANDALLBRIGGS 10 ай бұрын
@@BishopStars The TU-144 was considerably bigger and faster than the Concorde, so it was obviously not a clone. it also had its first flight a few months before the Concorde did. The Buran was considerably smaller than the U.S. Space Shuttle. It was almost certainly inspired by the Space Shuttle, but it was certainly not a clone. If you want to see Soviet clones, look at the license-built Li-2 and the reverse-engineered Tu-4.
@MrLBPug
@MrLBPug 10 ай бұрын
@@BishopStars 'Cloning' implies you have the DNA, i.e. blueprints or complete examples, to either build your own copy or reverse-engineer an aircraft. The Soviets did the latter with the B-29, which became the Tupolev Tu-4. It did differ from the B-29 in minor details: Soviet aviation grade aluminum and other metals were only available in metric scale thickness, for instance and flight instrumentation and other systems were also in metric. The Tu-144 and Buran were results of the fact that function often dictates form. If you want to design and build a supersonic passenger aircraft, you're bound by aerodynamic and engineering rules. Aeronautical engineers therefore come up with very similar solutions regardless of where they're from. If you want to design and build a reusable transport to get payload into low earth orbit, the same thing applies. Buran and the Space Shuttle therefore look very similar, but differ greatly in internal construction. If Buran really was a clone, i.e. based on blueprints of the Shuttle acquired by spies, there would be little variation in that as well.
@mattewj1268
@mattewj1268 10 ай бұрын
​@@BishopStarsneither of those aircraft is as similar to the aircraft as you think they are cloning as they look. Especially not the Buran
@finoxb944
@finoxb944 10 ай бұрын
I've seen an example at the Air Force Museum in Dayton, OH It definitely looks interwar, namely because of the 1 .50cal and 1 .30cal machine guns in the cowling. Interesting video on an interesting aircraft.
@jamesbugbee9026
@jamesbugbee9026 10 ай бұрын
Your Japanese P-35 is a courier bird used by the Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun, representing the specialist (minority) nature of Japanese civil aviation; love the paint/logo ❤️ How could anyone consider the P-35 tubby when they R parked next 2 (expletive deleted) B-18s?
@joakimkarlsson9255
@joakimkarlsson9255 10 ай бұрын
The Swedish air force mainly used the Reggiane RE-2000/J20 for neutrality guard duties rather than the Seversky EP-1/J9.
@kg2469
@kg2469 10 ай бұрын
Awesome channel Rex many thanks!
@alexgottlieb1286
@alexgottlieb1286 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@angusclark8330
@angusclark8330 10 ай бұрын
Short form or long form, it's your integrity that matters. Your work is impartial, therefore honest. You don't cherrypick. You have no agenda. Props.
@wideyxyz2271
@wideyxyz2271 10 ай бұрын
Great piece as always of an aircraft I knew little about.
@jonesy279
@jonesy279 5 ай бұрын
I just got the J9 in War Thunder and it’s a really fun little plane!
@spyczech
@spyczech 4 ай бұрын
Its rudder is hot shit, but it has good guns and seems to eat a lot of bullets
@eurybaric
@eurybaric 10 ай бұрын
Ok I just love that the sponsor is something that is cool and actually relevant to the topic and viewers !
@maryclarafjare
@maryclarafjare 10 ай бұрын
Marvelous, as always!!
@user-js4zx1lr2u
@user-js4zx1lr2u 10 ай бұрын
another excellent video. Thank you.
@shero113
@shero113 10 ай бұрын
One does awfully hope that you do the story of the Lancer, as it's an oft forgotten fighter, one that was really only produced to keep Republic running, but proved to have an important niche. Jolly nice video of the P-35, another aircraft that many dismiss, but, like so many of that era, was actually rather good, at the point of entry anyway.
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 10 ай бұрын
awesome thanks rex great work!!
@bo9591
@bo9591 10 ай бұрын
4:43 *Hits world speed record with the floats on as a flex*
@mrcat5508
@mrcat5508 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@garryferrington811
@garryferrington811 10 ай бұрын
Good little aircraft for it's period. Nice video.
@billywarren007
@billywarren007 10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in Italy: nope, no copying here at all…. Don’t check my work
@FredWilbury
@FredWilbury 10 ай бұрын
Love your research on history many thanks 👌😎☕️
@pjny21
@pjny21 4 ай бұрын
Fascinating stuff about the odd doctrines of the USAAF and thus what they produced. (Still interesting today, TBH).
@jpgabobo
@jpgabobo 10 ай бұрын
Great content as always, I often felt the Reggiane Re.2000 Falco I was a copy of the P-35 as well. Would love to see your take on this.
@michaeltelson9798
@michaeltelson9798 10 ай бұрын
Italian Engineers from Seversky left the company and joined Regianne . Very much a clone, but I am not sure if they duplicated the wet wing.
@Bruno-zg4cx
@Bruno-zg4cx 10 ай бұрын
​@@michaeltelson9798the Wing had self-sealing tanks in this case. Sort of, the process used a sealing rubber of some kind, surely an autarkic material
@michaeltelson9798
@michaeltelson9798 10 ай бұрын
@@Bruno-zg4cx They still kept the tail and wing shape the same throughout the series of aircraft. If you compare, for instance, the P-47 and RE.2005 by their wing and tail structure you can still see the family resemblance.
@pycouse9681
@pycouse9681 10 ай бұрын
​​@@michaeltelson9798Have you got a source for this? I have never heard about Italian engineers leaving Seversky to work at Reggiane
@janozkk
@janozkk 10 ай бұрын
The Wet Wing fuel leaks are very interesting. My Dad’s friend Lt. Edward Lacson ran out of fuel over Negros Occidental in his P-35. He blamed confusion with the Metric gauges in liters instead of gallons. Maybe the P-35 also leaked avgas. He bailed out over Negros Island in 1942. He was based in Del Monte Field in Mindanao.
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 10 ай бұрын
If you havent seen it I would recomend possibly the least Disney film ever "Victory Through Airpower" - written and presented by Alexander de Seversky himself. Fascinating.
@garryferrington811
@garryferrington811 10 ай бұрын
Gov't contracts saved Disney from bankruptcy after the financial catastrophe of "Fantasia" and a strike. More of that gov't interference, lol.
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 10 ай бұрын
@@garryferrington811 yes, "war socialism" is an often ignored US phenomenon especially by free-marketeers like Musk etc.
@luigicasilli2071
@luigicasilli2071 10 ай бұрын
Have you heard the story of an Italian interceptor : Reggiani 2000 ?
@xenophonBC
@xenophonBC 10 ай бұрын
I first saw a P-35 at Chino Air museum in the early 90's. P-47 is a Beast.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 10 ай бұрын
Thanks again Rex for another fine War Bird video.....🇺🇸
@Paughco
@Paughco 10 ай бұрын
Please do a similar deep dive on the P-43. Thank you!
@scootergeorge7089
@scootergeorge7089 10 ай бұрын
In naval aviation, the Brewster F2A Buffalo led the way.
@lewiswestfall2687
@lewiswestfall2687 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Rex
@TonyBongo869
@TonyBongo869 10 ай бұрын
I remember reading a book written by a P-35 pilot in Asia, he chronicled a flight over Mount Everest in the early 1940’s. I think he flew for the Chinese National Government
@MisdirectedSasha
@MisdirectedSasha Ай бұрын
There's a great laugh line in a war movie about the early south pacific campaign to be had there. "So, let me get this straight, sir: Republic Aviation made these planes for Sweden?" "Yup." "Hence the Swedish manuals, Swedish instruments, and every single word written in the cockpit being in Swedish?" "Correct." "But then Uncle Sam says 'fuck you, Sweden, we need these planes for our boys in the Pacific." "I don't know if I'd put it quite-" "But I don't speak Swedish and have no idea what a meter is."
@PIERRECLARY
@PIERRECLARY 10 ай бұрын
i never heard ofv this aircraft! thanks...
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 10 ай бұрын
Six P-35As were delivered to Ecuador to form the first combat unit, the Escuadrilla de Caza.
@covenantor663
@covenantor663 10 ай бұрын
Interestingly my introduction to Seversky had little to do with conventional aircraft. In an article in a Meccano Magazine from the mid 60s he was referenced in regards to a model ‘aircraft’ powered by ionised air! (Possibly a form of flying saucer?)
@adamestes5227
@adamestes5227 10 ай бұрын
In addition to the two J 9s that have been preserved and were mentioned in this video, an Army Air Corps P-35A survived by being an instructional airframe to eventually be acquired by the National Museum of the USAF in Dayton, Ohio. Meanwhile, one of the B 6s (the Swedish designation for the 2PA) that was impounded by the US government and impressed into service as an AT-12 Guardsman would later be acquired by the Planes of Fame Air Museum in California, which maintains it in airworthy condition, making it the last operational Seversky aircraft.
@jasperfromming6633
@jasperfromming6633 10 ай бұрын
Are you hinting at another Video with the mention of the lancet. PS great vid
@watercup5138
@watercup5138 10 ай бұрын
Ah lovely!
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 10 ай бұрын
It's crazy how much the plane's shape was dictated by the engine during the period they were being used. As soon as they went to engines with a V shape the planes got longer and much more stream lined.
@gustiwidyanta5492
@gustiwidyanta5492 10 ай бұрын
I mean, its inevitable, you really, really want to make the most out of that small surface area a vee engine has. That's why if you see a inline engined aircraft being converted to a radial engine (ala Ki-100) It looks wack.
@chesspiece81
@chesspiece81 10 ай бұрын
@gustiwidyanta5492 Yeah, but I guess I didn't realize just how much the shape of the planes were dictated by the type of engine they had. I've been around vehicles my whole life and never had any first-hand experience with any engine that wasn't straight, boxer, or V shaped. But the more I started learning about older airplanes and the different configurations their motors were made available in. You can clearly see how it drives the design of the aircraft. You don't get that in a car, truck, or motorcycle, really. Even crossing over into the jet age I am extremely interested by the shape of the air inlet they use to feed the jet as you progress through their evolution and implementation.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 9 ай бұрын
Radial engined designs, by nature, can never be as areodynamic as liquid cooled engine designs. However, they held a significant advantage over liquid cooled designs in reliability/maintainability/survivability in combat, as the FW190, P-47, La-5/FN, etc. proved...
@gustiwidyanta5492
@gustiwidyanta5492 9 ай бұрын
@@charlestaylor253 radial engines are cool, they're basically derived from V-twin engines which are neat! And yes, reliablity wise you only need one type of liquid cooling the engine, which is oil. Interesting the 190 Dora went through with a Jumo 213.
@thecyberdork776
@thecyberdork776 10 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the Reggiane Re.2000 the Italian copy of the P-35.
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib 10 ай бұрын
6:10 - I can't help but think those huge "spats" (more like forward fins) were to compensate for the missing side area ahead of the center of gravity that the floats provided. When you add side area forward of the CG you usually have to compensate by adding side area to the rear with a larger fin (which was done, for instance, in the case of the three Spitfire floatplane conversions). In this case they removed the floats but had to now compensate for the too-large fin, so they added those slabs to hold the landing gear. Note the fin at 6:51 is smaller.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 10 ай бұрын
Those types of fixed landing gear fairings are actually called 'trousers'.
@iskandartaib
@iskandartaib 10 ай бұрын
@@charlestaylor253 The more usual kind (which are teardrop shaped around the wheel and don't extend all the way up to the wing) are actually called "wheel pants". Maybe this sort, where they extend all the way up to the wing, might be called "trousers", but I must admit I've never come across the term.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 9 ай бұрын
The early, flat-bottomed, wide-chord types as seen here and on more than a few civilian, (primarily racing), aircraft designs in the late-20's through mid-30's era are referred to as 'trousered landing gear'. The more common narrower-chord fixed-gear types with areodynamic fairings over the wheels, (as seen on the B-and later Ju87 variants), are referred to as 'faired and spatted' fixed landing gear...
@rickhobson3211
@rickhobson3211 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Also, I still want to know how Icarus Art gets its images! I am hoping they're not Warthunder Screen Caps! I need to poke at their website! The images are amazing!
@mrains100
@mrains100 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@nomdeplume2117
@nomdeplume2117 10 ай бұрын
The wing planform appears to be elliptical, like the Supermarine Spitfire.
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 10 ай бұрын
P-35 Pilots: Man,,, we could sure use some better aircraft way out here in the hinterlands!🙁 Gloster Gladiator Pilots: Just get on with it mate.🧐
@GrigoriZhukov
@GrigoriZhukov 10 ай бұрын
Claire Chenault jauntily waves from his P6.
@ivanhicks887
@ivanhicks887 10 ай бұрын
Thankyou
@amandastevenson4948
@amandastevenson4948 10 ай бұрын
The rims on the Swedish museum aircraft look very familiar from my model days wonder if they're used on other types??
@SuperchargedSupercharged
@SuperchargedSupercharged 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for a longer video. You rock Rex!
@farmingtonfakenamington3048
@farmingtonfakenamington3048 10 ай бұрын
I know they're quite obscure but I would love a look at some hungarian aircraft such as the WM-23 or RMI 1 or 8.
@kfcroc18
@kfcroc18 10 ай бұрын
He also built the A-10 2:46
@srcreeper02550
@srcreeper02550 10 ай бұрын
finally a video about the most forgotten fighter of the second world war
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog 10 ай бұрын
Just came from Kermit Weeks' video on scanning parts of the wing for his P-35. Last week was P-35 week, by the looks of it.
@TheJaymon1962
@TheJaymon1962 10 ай бұрын
Such a tease
@thesnazzycomet
@thesnazzycomet 10 ай бұрын
I love this little plane its super cute!
@TechGameEras
@TechGameEras 10 ай бұрын
Yes! One of my favorite aircraft! I wish they had it in War Thunder
@bryantrussell120
@bryantrussell120 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I knew there was aircraft between world war 1 and world war 2 but I didn't know just the sheer variety there was There were so many that I had no idea about so I appreciate you bringing them to the surface.
@whtalt92
@whtalt92 10 ай бұрын
It's called the Golden age of Aviation for a reason ;)
@bryantrussell120
@bryantrussell120 10 ай бұрын
@@whtalt92 yeah technology was progressing so fast and not just an aviation but it naval power as well
@salvagedb2470
@salvagedb2470 10 ай бұрын
If it happened with the 2 Zero losses , You dont really know , but I dont think it could Deal with a Zero , it was in its Glory days and later it would come out as much a Zippo as the P-35..Good one Rex , you take care of yerself mate .
@jessehamm3573
@jessehamm3573 10 ай бұрын
Indeed. The P-35 was clearly no match for the Zero. And in the same engagement during which those two unconfirmed victories were claimed, one of the P-35's was so badly shot up that it crash-landed en route to its airfield. The P-35's inferiority to the A6M is even further highlighted when one analyzes the details of the engagement in question. In this particular case, 16 of the P-35's had managed to corner an isolated flight of only 6 Zeroes, and despite having a numerical advantage of nearly 3-to-1, the Americans got trounced.
@arthurbrax6561
@arthurbrax6561 10 ай бұрын
Reggiane in Italy made planes that looked like the P-35. Maybe they bought a license production of the P-35 and then modified it? The tail section of all Reggiane fighters are an almost exact copy of the P-35
@nathanbond8165
@nathanbond8165 10 ай бұрын
If you would like to see a p-35 in a movie then find the movie "test pilot" 1935 starring arrow Flynn in the beginning of the movie his character who is a test pilot races across the country to break a speed record in a p-35 and for the first 20 minutes of the movie there's beautiful scenes of the plane in flight and on the ground
@stephenremington8448
@stephenremington8448 10 ай бұрын
Interesting, I don't think i've heard of Republic as Seversky before.
@Dobroz99
@Dobroz99 10 ай бұрын
We’re the Swedish variants faster? What were there specs compared to the original? Thanks for the video
@Chounubis
@Chounubis 10 ай бұрын
The *ONE PLANE.* Warthunder *COULD* be adding as a "rank I" reserve that it has ignored... The even more obscure P-43 "Lancer" was added (and I'm grateful for that), but what about the P-35?! Literally began the whole "Severesky/Republic" line.
@BSKustomz
@BSKustomz 10 ай бұрын
Kermit Weeks just dropped a video 13 hours ago talking about scanning the wing roots on a restoration they are doing on one of these... Small world
@TalkingGIJoe
@TalkingGIJoe 10 ай бұрын
A beautiful aircraft...
@douglasfur3808
@douglasfur3808 10 ай бұрын
Shotgun start, wait, what? I thought that was just a Field Marshall eccentricity.
@rickhobson3211
@rickhobson3211 10 ай бұрын
20:27 I wonder who the woman is? Given it's a Swedish air museum, some aviatrix? Great vid as always! Very informative!
@billlewis9362
@billlewis9362 10 ай бұрын
Woman is Swedish film star Greta Garbo
@Snobiker13
@Snobiker13 10 ай бұрын
Greta Garbo didn't fly as far as I know. Another quite famous Swedish actress and singer did though. Alice "Babs" Sjöblom learned to fly while making the movie Örnungar (Eaglets) in 1943-1944.
@hadleymanmusic
@hadleymanmusic 10 ай бұрын
Makes me wanna learn taildragger
@pythosdegothos6181
@pythosdegothos6181 10 ай бұрын
Geee, I wonder what that P-43 Lancer will turn out to be. :P
@donttreadonmetal5073
@donttreadonmetal5073 10 ай бұрын
I'd like to see both the p-35A and the J9 in WarThunder.
@mochabear88
@mochabear88 10 ай бұрын
dope
@wormyboot
@wormyboot 10 ай бұрын
@8:30 Is that you sitting in the cockpit? Sure looks like it.
@applicationuser9764
@applicationuser9764 10 ай бұрын
I had no idea they were using wet wings back then. It would have been so much easier and smarter just to use drop tanks since the fuel was so flammable. JP-7 is one thing. Avgas is another.
@gort8203
@gort8203 10 ай бұрын
The first time any innovation is used there is a probability of issues. Wet wings have been the industry standard for a long time now, but would not be if nobody had been the first to try them. Drop tanks were not an option because they were not in favor with the Army at that time. One reason was a perceived fire hazard. Aircraft of the era sometimes had auxiliary internal tanks for ferry flights. The overload fuel carried put the airplane above the allowable weight for a combat mission but was allowed for a ferry operation. Internal auxiliary fuel was preferred because much of the fuel carried in external tanks was wasted by the increased drag of such tanks.
@charlestaylor253
@charlestaylor253 9 ай бұрын
Always bear in mind the fact that roughly 50% of the total fuel contained in any aircraft's drop tank is burnt off overcoming the significant drag and weight penalties of keeping the tank attached in flight...
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