The Pac 12 is about to fall off a cliff

[@jrfjosh]

The infectious disease is leaving the Big 12 (Texas), now Colorado is thinking of going back to the big 12 along with Utah and Arizona schools. Big 12 looks attractive when you get rid of the ugliness of Longhorns.

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

We are far better off without Texas than we were with Texas. Oklahoma has made a huge mistake. Welcome Home CU!

[@idontmakevidsful]

It feels like watching the old Big East situation again.

[@Mikevdog]

How about the South West Conference

[@wesleyowens4089]

About but being mad at Texas and Oklahoma you're half right. Nobody should've been mad at Oklahoma but Texas is the whole reason that Nebraska, Texas a&m, Missouri and Colorado left anyways. Also Texas is the reason that the big 12 didn't expand past TCU and WVU, Oklahoma played a part in that as well as they refused to take Louisville.

[@anthonyorman596]

Actually Texas blocked any expansion for years so yeah they kinda play a part especially when Nebraska left Texas was definitely the cause of that bro

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

Still angry about even letting Texas join. We should have known better.

[@davidmead2529]

That was UT fault. With their network stopping the big 12 and many teams left because of UT. That’s a fact.

[@mswwalker12345]

There is a reason most west coast kids leave for schools across the country... It may very well be too late for them to change perception and interest, but I've seen crazier things. It'll take some out of the box thinking and some REAL work. Things like playing your games while everyone else in the country is awake, for one...

[@jamietuttle378]

I like your take here except for one point you missed out on miserably. TX & OU were essentially holding the Big12 hostage, voting NO to expanding the conference over the past decade. Otherwise expansion moves would have been made a long time ago. This is what happens when you have unequal revenue sharing (looking at you Oregon and Washington + the ACC), the TX and OUs of the conference exist to suck the life force out of the other members.

[@tcmhs]

Hey Texas in particular had a stranglehold over the big 12 with a lot of the issues you pointed out being a direct result of their meddling. It's going to be interesting to see how they behave in the SEC. I expect them to behave for a few years then to start slowly hurting the conference like they did with the SWC and big 12.

[@andrewhelmer9721]

The difference with the SEC is there are a ton of giants that can stop their bs. In the SWC and Big 12 the conference revolved around them and their state. You saw what happened to A&M when they tried their power play to keep Texas out of the SEC. The SEC made them get in line fast and they shut their mouths really quick. The exact same thing would to Texas if they tried anything that would rattle the nest. The SEC can easily survive with or without them.

[@tcmhs]

@andrewhelmer9721 There aren't any schools in the SEC that can match the money or status of Texas. The performance on the field waxes and wanes over time. Expect Texas to pull something when they feel it benefits them. They feel like they don't need a conference either, they think they can be independent like noter dame if they had to do it.

[@snappyaj9053]

Seriously, the Longhorn Network was the last straw for Missouri, Texas A&M, Nebraska and Colorado. Then Texas stood in the way of expansion and bailed when it benefitted them. Good luck with that SEC.

[@Matthew-rp3jf]

My thoughts exactly. F UT.

[@andrewhelmer9721]

@@tcmhs And the SEC will tell them to try and go independent if they try any over the top crap. You really think LSU, Bama, Tennessee, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, and A&M are seriously going to let Texas do what they want? They aren't going to bully the way older members and Texas can't bully the smaller members onto their side like they did in the Big 12 because those schools needed the state of Texas resources and Texas's national brand. Arkansas, Mizzou, the Mississippi schools, Kentucky, Vandy, and South Carolina aren't going to ally with Texas. The only so called friend Texas could have is OU. The SEC is very stable for a reason because they have a ton of teams that can carry their weight. No team has the power alone to mess that up.

[@Baylor35Bear]

UT destroyed the SWC and did everything they could to destroy the Big 12. Good riddance to Entitlement U.

[@AceofCrazy89]

“Did nothing” ut and ou made sure of that. What are you talking about?

[@texasfight210]

That 'Alliance' did wonders. RIP Pac 12

[@haroldfarquad6886]

The more time goes on, the more I look back at that 2006 Rose Bowl as the pinnacle of all college football history, as the perfect ending to a century-old sport, and it has fallen precipitously ever since. It was just before the iphone came out, just before we got swallowed by the social media age, just before the sport became sucked up by Saban's death star of a program and all the insane coaching contracts and carousels it set in motion in attempts to catch up, and just before we set on a trajectory to snuff out everything sacred or scandalous about the sport. Paying players was still a hush-hush practice everyone secretly enjoyed speculating about, recruiting was more relationship and brand-based, geographic rivalries still had fuel, targeting wasn't a thing, teams frequently still relied upon thoroughbred running backs to run an offense. And at the end of the 2005 season, all of those culminated in a magical display of pageantry and competitive drama at the Rose Bowl. It had the storylines, the storied programs, the stars, the setting, the un-diluted fan experience, and the story book ending fit for the cinema.

[@jansonroberts2616]

Eh, it was a good game but every season has good games. Adapt and enjoy.

[@broskibear9666]

Lou, again, great breakdown and analysis.

[@sharpshooterjames8891]

If the Arizona schools, Utah and Colorado do leave to the Big XII, I can see the remaining Pac-12 merge with the MW

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

But will the MWC want to have anything to do with the PAC-I seriously doubt it.

[@earlcarr4478]

LOU your 100% right i am calling my shot now utah asu az colorado are big12 bound oregon and wash are big 10 bound pac 12 is on life support in my opinion

[@jakesshopandtracktalk1835]

Colorado already bailed on the Big 12 once. But they historically had a rivalry with Nebraska. I’m thinking that they would try to go Big Ten.

[@earlcarr4478]

@@jakesshopandtracktalk1835 agreed especially with sanders at the helm

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

@@jakesshopandtracktalk1835 Big 10 does not want them. Brasky was not their only rival. Kansas, K-State, Iowa State, Oklahoma.

[@blizzardwarning5198]

Enjoyed the unnamed reference to the ginger dude .. lol

[@ThatChristianFamChannel]

I believe at least the 4 corner schools will jump east to the Big XII.

[@ryanmcarthur7407]

I've said over a decade that pac 12 and big 12 need to combine their best schools and have one major conference bc they l both been in the gutter for so long

[@mattb4649]

Oh you can absolutely blame Texas and OU they kept the conference from expanding in 2016 and had a foot out the door for years.

[@sherrold2437]

Shut up Kansas man.

[@mattb4649]

@@sherrold2437 😂 keep crying

[@michaelwall3393]

That is incredibly incorrect. It was the 8 remaining schools that kept the Big12 from expanding back in 2015/16 and not OU and definitely not Texas. That’s a Kansas City LGBTQ dipshit thing that those knuckleheads keep spewing incessantly incorrectly along with other schools to make them feel better about their own ineptitude and negligence.

[@mattb4649]

@@michaelwall3393 KC LGBTQ dipshit?? Yeah you don’t know me lol 😂

[@mattb4649]

@@michaelwall3393 it’s been well documented that Texas and OU were totally against conference expansion when the other schools wanted it look up any source from the time.

[@aarodful]

All this stuff is just the breakdown of regionalism on college football. The National Championship and its playoff are all people care about now. Bowl games and rivalries are diminished. The sport is becoming more professional with NIL. So now conferences are becoming based more on money and less on rivalries and regionality.

[@gmailcgs]

Bowl games were meaningless 30 to 40 years ago. It Didn't just start recently. If a rivalry is so important, then you can schedule them out of conference if you happened to change conference. The expanded playoff should of started 30 to 40 years ago.

[@haroldfarquad6886]

Don't you just love how money ruins everything good?

[@michaelmerck7576]

@R B might be a more talented group of players but I quit watching or caring about the NFL many years ago especially now with all political slant they slam at .that was the main reason for ignoring it

[@jansonroberts2616]

Somewhat for sure, but the SEC is still regional and it’s rivalries will be protected in this new scheduling structure. Oklahoma is stretching the boundaries of regionalism but it’s a bend but not break type of regionalism.

[@aarodful]

@@jansonroberts2616 It isn't broken yet, but most things bend before they break. It's being bent right now.

[@anthonytitone]

I’ve always thought SDSU & Boise would’ve saved the PAC if they added them a decade + ago because it’s not about how much they were worth at the time but how much they could be worth. Now the conference is in such a dire position that only teams with immediate value will save them

[@jamesmchugh2936]

Ironically those 2 schools got screwed over by the Big East. They had joined thinking the conference was in good shape, then the football playing schools all bailed.

[@michaelwall3393]

@@jamesmchugh2936 you have that backwards. It was the FCS/basketball schools primarily that bailed on the old Big East/AAC and not the other way around.

[@KingmanIII]

@@michaelwall3393 The blame lies primarily on USF and Judy Genshaft. They voted with the non-FB schools for Villanova as the 12th member instead of UCF.

[@upstatebernie4827]

PAC 12 leadership - arrogant and did not adjust to changes. XEROX pretty much invented the PC but did not adapt - how did that turn out?

[@broskibear9666]

In addition to USC and UCLA, I'm looking forward to Oregon, Washington and either Stanford or Cal joining the B1G. With Rhule as Nebraska's new HC and Fickell as Wisconsin's new HC the B1G is getting stronger. Will Notre Dame finally join the B1G too?

[@ealas12]

ND won't join the B1G...they should but they are too arrogant

[@terryporter7617]

Yes, Washington and Oregon more than likely getting an invite to join the Big 10. ND is happy being independent and makes plenty of money. Stanford and California more than likely would join ND as the big three independents. Four corner schools to the big 12 and Washington state and Oregon state say hello to the MTN West conference. Just how I see it ….

[@broskibear9666]

@@haroldhall1517 no chance of that. The ACC's tv deal is trash and the B1G stretches from coast to coast.

[@broskibear9666]

@@AEM-le7uy You're comment about the number of national championships won is accurate, however Penn State and Nebraska won multiple titles before becoming members of the B1G. B1G needs to start winning national championships and there's no question the SEC is the big dog on the block. There's no denying the amount of talent the B1G pumps into the NFL every year and the B1G is clearly the 2nd best conference every year. It will be interesting to see how the realignment plays out. Between tv deals and the addition of new teams, the SEC and B1G are leading in this arena also.

[@THE_Secular_Conservative]

Notre Dame = bums

[@_Doodle-bob]

As a Utah fan, I’m lovin this…. It’s the only time my dear conference is ever talked about lol haha

[@OutsidetheEchochamber]

Oh yeah, Utahs in the PAC

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

@@OutsidetheEchochamber How long will that remain possible and have Utah Athletics? The PAC is a cut-rate Ivy League without the no-scholarship athletics. It is now just an academic consortium. No football, No Basketball. But they got Water Polo. Utah needs to find an exit and it won't come from the Big 10.

[@OutsidetheEchochamber]

@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 I forgot they were even in the PAC definitely time to leave

[@americafirstcollision6703]

@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Utah would have to recruit better to play against Ohio State, Penn St, Michigan St, Wisconsin, Mich, Etc. Especially road games in the Midwest in the dead of winter. They would have to give players a reason to come there instead of those elite schools

[@talmanes4589]

i hope if this does happen that we get PAC schools moving to the Big 12 so we at least end up with 3 strong conferences instead of two.

[@roris5882]

The PacLeftovers and the AccLeftovers will probably end up joining the BigLeftovers to create a separate Leftover's League because they won't be able to compensate their players and coaches as much as the Super 2 Football Conferences will be able to. Especially after the players start earning their fair share of the TV revenue they generate from their labor and health. The 40 to 50 most valuable schools will be in the Super 2 to maximize their income and to compete against the best teams. They will probably even have their own 12 team playoffs so they can keep all the revenue for themselves and for their players.

[@B13-i6t]

We as sec fans have to admit this really started with the espn deal. Once that kind of money started pouring into a conference it broke the dam. Now with nil plus the massive TV contracts in hind sight this was inevitable. I hate seeing this, the copy cat offenses, players being free agents every year, and now the death of conferences and let be real rivalry games will be the next victim. This only hurts the small schools in dieing conferences and it sucks honestly

[@jansonroberts2616]

Wait till the college football players become employees and have to be paid as employees. Including benefits as employees. The smaller schools will really have a hard time fitting that type system into their budgets. NIL could change somewhat when the players become employees. Contractual player employees will probably at the very least have some regulatory oversight. As much change as we’ve had the last 5 years, the next 5 years could be mind blowing.

[@rumesh_lance]

Power 4 is better than 5, nice even # for the playoff expansion top 4 spots

[@jansonroberts2616]

Don’t the current P-5 schools evenly distribute their share of the CFP money? If one goes away, the remaining for only have to split it 4 ways instead of 5.

[@BrendanN941]

Only a matter of time before college football becomes a 2 conference sport. This is the beginning of the end of the power 5

[@RexBell303]

Colorado is having a meeting Wednesday. The topic is the athletic department and the PAC 12

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

The law of the State of Colorado is that all changes regarding Athletic Affiliation at CU be Public Meetings. This was an internal CBOR meeting to discuss what has to be done. next public meeting in March and will be held remotely. Warm up those computers.

[@CCOS1214]

4 p5 conferences. Big ten adds Oregon and Washington. Big 12 gets 4 corner schools, acc adds the leftovers they want and notre dame .

[@jamescampbell9533]

Remember what happened to the old South West Conference.

[@goodough]

As a Texas resident Rice needs to join the Princeton’s and Harvards of the World….Stanford needs to join Ivy League as well….and Tulane the Green Wave 😬need to stay in Group of 5 …..

[@jarredguyton]

I can definitely see the Pac-12 going away.

[@snappyaj9053]

You seem to have no understanding of how hard Texas drove the Big 12 and then left them when it was convenient. Good luck fitting their ego into your conference.

[@KRoc]

Pac 12 should merge with Big 12 and call it the Pac West (or something)

[@dthom1201]

TV execs wanted them to merge, but they wouldn't. Too much ego!

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

Too late for that after Kliavkoff decided "He did not know whether he was going shopping there"-scru em. Open mouth, insert foot.

[@jansonroberts2616]

I always liked the Big12Pac.😬

[@davidhart8552]

Totally agree! Go Vols

[@richardoneal1055]

It was Texas and Oklahoma that stopped the B12 from expanding, not the other way around.

[@stoopstified7376]

Truth to some of that, but it was actually the lack of quality teams proposed...the problem was despite equal revenue share, big 12 teams did very little to create more value for themselves. ..they brought nothing to the table the increase the big twelves television contract...same as the ACC, and PAC 12...the big2 carried the conferences

[@richardoneal1055]

@Stoopstified Texas and Oklahoma were the reasons Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and A&M left. All good competitive teams at the time. So knock off the BS. Texas and Oklahoma intentionally caused problems in the B12.

[@stoopstified7376]

@@richardoneal1055 Oklahoma wasn't the reason anyone left...the longhorn network was..we had the ability to create good value for ourselves and our third tier rights.. almost impossible to break up Oklahoma/Texas after 129 years ,.. right?

[@richardoneal1055]

@Stoopstified Oklahoma was a Big 8 school and Texas was in the old Southwest Conference, which they caused to break up. Yes, they played each other, after the Big 12 the two became co-conspirators in ramming their will down the throats of other B12 schools. Good riddance. They won't be anything but average in the SEC and both will learn how to take orders instead of giving them.

[@stoopstified7376]

@@richardoneal1055 sorry you are so angry Richard...I actually remember the Big 7 days ..I miss the Nebraska games.. almost 90 years..the same scenarios are happening through out college football...big , historic brands are done carrying the weak ...it's a natural progression..eat or be eaten...watch your back pardner!

[@davidcole2337]

There are 4 Schools currently on Watch list to possibly jump Conferences. Washington and Oregon have to be on Big 10 Radar and Arizona and Arizona St and maybe Colorado to jumping ship.

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

@@haroldhall1517 That was the ONLY reason Nebraska and Colorado left us. Missouri left for other reasons.

[@KingmanIII]

@@vernonsheldon-witter1225 Such as?

[@lucasjames5187]

I'm with Uncle Lou on I don't like seeing a lot of changes with college football when it come to conferences but the thing to blame on why changes like that are happening to college football is because of money and greediness. And in my opinion, that's gonna eventually be the reason for the downfall of college football. Because of CF going down that road i don't like, it's gonna move away from being passionate about the game and feel more corporate. Like the NFL. And it's sad because one of the reason why I love college football is because it wasn't the NFL.

[@jb6563]

You ain't lying about the BIG 12 sitting on their hands and the rest of the sport leaving them behind.... for God's sake, if they would've replaced TAMU and Mizzou when they left, and held a conference championship game, OSU never would've MADE the initial CFP, let alone won the damn championship!

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

TAMU and Missouri tried to do what Texas did but did not succeed. WVU was Mizzous's replacement. TCU was A&Ms replacement. We did not just sit on our hands. That is just an opinion.

[@letthebigdawgeat6008]

The champ is here

[@checkdacontract]

Nobody can patch up the holes Larry Scott left in that boat. It's over.....

[@ChristopherX30]

I think that all of this is a consequence of not expanding the CFP earlier than they have. Not the only reason, but a BIG reason!!!

[@roris5882]

Conference realignment is a symptom of the players finally being able to earn an income while they play. Eventually they will be receiving their fair share of the TV revenue they generate from their labor and health. That's why the B1G and SEC are preparing for the inevitability of it by consolidating the most profitable schools. There are over 130 schools in FBS football and more keep joining to get a cut of the playoff revenue even though they have no realistic chance at competing for a playoff spot. So the consolidation is the natural process to thinning the heard by cutting out the dead weight.

[@litedawg]

Honestly maybe they need to disappear.

[@clemsonowns]

I mean, no one outside of the SEC ever cared about conference pride. But it is def fun watching g all the different regions/styles.

[@mgtnquasar8092]

This sums it up PERFECTLY

[@PetersJ20011]

Larry Scott is to blame for the Pac-12 demise..weak media deals doomed the conference.

[@ThatChristianFamChannel]

They gone man.

[@jakesshopandtracktalk1835]

Uncle Lou, I always like to hear what you gotta say (except if it’s a YSIO video starring my team) but I think the only thing really holding the big names back from breaking off into some version of the NFL is the non revenue sports. Within 15 years I think it’s gonna be totally different than today. Frankly I can see a world where Penn State and Alabama are in the same league and Georgia and Ohio State are in the same division. I think we’re looking at 32 teams, 6 divisions, one conference. Eventually. I don’t really like it either. But we gotta remember that in all this, we’re the product and the customers are the advertisers.

[@haroldfarquad6886]

I think you may be right. As much as I hate what the sport is becoming, if we're being honest there are only about 30-40 programs in the country who can justify their own existence and the money thrown around for TV deals. These billions of dollars aren't being spent because of the San Diego States and SMUs of the world lining up to play against anyone. People are watching top 25 matchups during the regular season (which features mostly the same teams each year), their team, and waiting for the drama of the playoff. The majority of college football games do not fall under those criteria. College football is just going to be a semi-professional proving ground for the NFL because they aren't letting 19 year-olds in the league. I see maybe two giant conferences holding all the teams that actually matter, and any association with the university will be in name only. I wouldn't be surprised to see the teams in those two conferences become functionally separate from the universities where the players don't even have to be a student to play. They'll just be residents of the town who play on the football team with the same logo. The farce of the 'student athlete' for the upper echelon of college football has survived for decades, and we may be seeing its last days this decade. With what some of these guys are getting in NIL, how much of a joke a lot of their class load is, and with the consolidation of big brand programs into fewer and fewer conferences, it's going to get difficult to justify the 'student' requirement.

[@jakesshopandtracktalk1835]

@@haroldfarquad6886 if the Big Ten and SEC announced a merger, well. That would end it. But what I don’t really understand is: Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, Maryland, Indiana, UNC, etc, what happens there? Because frankly if you’re setting up an elite football league most years only North Carolina is pretty good at football. You’re not wanting to give up that basketball revenue or at least I don’t think so. I mean we’re not probably keeping Northwestern and Vanderbilt when this goes down. Are we? Which is a shame because to your point those 2 PROBABLY make their ballplayers like you know, go to class and stuff.

[@stischer47]

I come from academia and no one looking at an academic program considers what ATHLETIC conference they are. No one says, "Oh, I want to go to Stanford because they're in the Pac12." The Presidents are trying to maintain the facade that college football is just a sideshow for universities. The vast majority of the researchers who give academic standing don't even attend the football games.

[@davidfloyd9134]

ESPN wanted this by taking Texas & OU

[@ecc5119]

Great video. 👍

[@davidstowe5652]

PAC 12 is better ACC Great job and good luck 👍⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍 Georgia and a 2023 season it’s a defense to keep the teams as an average Weston 18 they will definitely be in the final four even if they lose the SEC championship game How is Texas A&M? Not losing at least five games in 2023

[@Kooterkatt]

I want to see what Notre Dame does I don’t know if they can survive being an independent especially with the way everyone is moving around

[@haroldfarquad6886]

I wouldn't be sad if ND gets left in the dust bin of history. Their arrogance, obstinance, and refusal to join a conference for this long needs to be punished. I'm beyond sick of seeing the special favoritism afforded to ND when they haven't done anything to deserve it for over a generation now.

[@Kooterkatt]

@@haroldfarquad6886 I agree and im too young to understand where their fame came from in the first place I would only feel bad for the players

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

@@Kooterkatt They have been America's premier Roman Catholic University and have been playing football since 1887. Catholic kids still want to be Notre Dame heroes. They have a worldwide fanbase and it will keep them alive.

[@Reedinho]

SAN JOSE STATE AND FRESNO STATE TO THE PAC-12 LET'S GOOOOO!

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

Too small, too nonacademic, too late.

[@clottadams5028]

Now I'm watching primarily to see if Lou will cough again.

[@cameronmerrill_]

but Kliavkoff

[@brandonkoon3707]

I hope Deangelo Gibbs does well at SC this year, he came in with Stetson in 2017. This will be Dangelos sixth and final season.

[@shannonhill98]

Rice is undefeated against Alabama! They qualify! Lmao 3 wins rice 0 for bama

[@HiiiGuardian]

A literal earthquake in the Pac-12.

[@Field_Marshall]

Big East gone if the news is true PAC12 goes the remaining four power conferences joined making a two league systems were talking about to be continued

[@gwhite7136]

Why not leave the woke pac 12? They were the first conference to cancel their season over something that is 99.1% survivable. The only way to beat the pac12 if your in the pac12 is to leave their politics as a school. Football is too important to be left up to idiots running the pac12.

[@samuelzachariah8739]

I will say that the Big 12 has at least been aggressive in trying to recover. They couldn’t save Texas and Oklahoma, but they might just save their conference

[@haroldfarquad6886]

The Big12 also has the benefit of being 'somewhat' geographically centered in an area of the country that still cares about football. They have the gravity to pull in some schools in the middle of the country. The west coast just doesn't embrace the game enough to hold anything together. They're too culturally different to keep up with where college football is heading, and most of them aren't going to care if they get left behind.

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

We already have.

[@dacypher22]

The powers that be need to recognize that this is bad for national college football. If the PAC-12 collapses and all of the teams move to other conferences, it makes college football less relevant to the west coast. Yes, they will still have their colleges playing, but if UCLA is playing Ohio, down the line USC is playing Auburn, or wherever they may be playing, it loses the regional appeal.

[@captaincoalpile1755]

I call BS on blaming the xii for the OU and Tex.. I blame OU and Tex.. They had a stranglehold on that conference. They would boycott any expansion that didn't include ND, SEC or BIG schools..

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

It is BS. Texas destroyed its own Conference (ask Arkansas) and then, not being content with this, proceeded to try to destroy the Big 12, but failed. We took the best G5s and survived. Now it looks like we will get at least 3, at most 6 of the PAC remains, plus when it's possible Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, and possibly Virginia Tech. Brett Yormark was a godsend.

[@davidfloyd9134]

PAC12 is dead. Time to go

[@cousindom]

The pac 12 tv deal would be streaming only or at least majority of it being streaming

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

If you look at the present deals being offered by ESPN and Fox, 85% will be streaming.

[@cousindom]

Not only that but it's rumored to be only 22 million a year either way the pac 12 is divided if they do even revenue sharing Oregon and Washington possibly cal stanford are leaving if they do uneven revenue sharing the 4 corner schools are gone and then the pac 12 can bring in new teams that would be gullible to take uneven revenue sharing long as there in a power 5 conference but who knows if the ncaa would recognize it as a power 5 conference

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

@@cousindom I have heard from reliable sources at the Colorado Athletic Office that it will be no more than 22M

[@cousindom]

So yeah pac 12 is going to lose schools whether they do equal revenue sharing and Oregon Washington Stanford and cal go or they do unequal revenue sharing and the 4 corner schools go which may only buy maybe a few more years at most for the PAC 12 but I've heard Arizona is tired of the pac 12 leadership and has been tired of the leadership for year and wants to go but there waiting on Arizona state to come with them

[@blanco8451]

To the people in charge that might see this. WE AGREE WITH UNCLE LOU!!! 🐊

[@RexBell303]

Also, Colorado already doesn’t have the money for Sanders salary, imagine if they take a pay cut for tv rights. They gone

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

CU has more money than you might think.

[@wesleyprince2300]

Oregon won a playoff game the first year of the playoffs

[@cainman5807]

I don’t care for the pac 12

[@daryltidwell6880]

Tulane had their chance

[@texasscifi3431]

It's been power 4 for years and years to be honest. The pac 12 has fallen off and should not be anything more than the mountain west without USC and UCLA

[@henrymartinez2850]

Go woke go broke!

[@ncunnin656]

Well OR, Wash, Az, Az St, etc will stay put unless they are invited somewhere else. They have no choice.

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

UA, CU, and ASU know already they have an invitation. Utah will if they find some humility. Otherwise, it's back to the MWC.

[@anthonyguyon4381]

Oregon State and Washington State to the MAC lol

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

It may be possible that Yormark can get the Big 12 to accept them, along with Gonzaga.

[@projectprism1591]

Hell get boise state in pac 12

[@319vegeta5]

I don't necessarily think the PAC-12 is circling the drain. In fact, this upcoming season, that league might actually have the most interesting storylines in the country. Will Lincoln and USC take a step up? Will Utah and Cam Rising make some noise again? How will Deion and Colorado do in year one? Bo Nix back for year two with Dan Lanning. Chip Kelly might have something cookin' at UCLA. Not to mention Oregon St and Washington with Michael Penix appear to have quality programs. I think the Pac-12 could be VERY good next year.

[@haroldfarquad6886]

Next year, yes. But it's too late for them to produce a quality product to stave off what's coming. They're already losing the LA market, and Washington and Oregon are the only other programs who matter west of the Rocky Mountains.

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

More self delusion. This is the last year of the PAC. Nobody wants their content outside of streamers and the Universities don't want streaming.

[@Mikevdog]

Follow the money not the talk.

[@johncoy5912]

As a SEC fan you better hope Georgia and Alabama and others better stand up to Texas or you will be sorry they came in . Ask Missouri and Arkansas and Texas A&M about Texas

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

Texas is the wealthiest University in North America. They actually are not that good. They are richer than God and politically connected. And they live to start trouble. Now ask TAMU, Arkansas, Nebraska, and Colorado. Mizzou is a cut-rate Walmart Texas.

[@exandious867]

covid really screwed them up too, since they just out right didnt play and that one season no matter how half ass people will remember it, has put them behind like 5 years.

[@DavidM442]

Was it COVID or poor decision to stop playing because of COViD? PAC’s poor decisions led to this

[@nicksemerikoff9805]

The college presidents of the PAC 12 are to blame for their demise, the former commissioner should've been fired a long time ago, but the PAC didn't do nothing about it, the PAC 12 is dead, Oregon ducks are my team, hope they find a way to survive,

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

They are the best of what is left. They will find a place and thrive.

[@haroldfarquad6886]

College football is an ugly fustercluck these days. Geographic absurdities, unregulated free agency with no salary caps, the disruption of decades-old rivalries, and a 12 team playoff so the SEC can prove its the best conference in the land for the 15th year in a row... all for what? The almighty dollar ruining everything sensible and sacred. We are a completely commodified society and college football is starting to look increasingly less attractive by the day. I don't want NFL-light, I want college football, but I guess with as much obscene money marketers throw at TV deals, we just can't have nice things last. Sooner or later, the rapacious appetites of moguls and oligarchs consume all.

[@sunmama2234]

Get woke go broke, that is the pac in a nutshell

[@westernciviccapital3075]

ICYMI... here's the script. I hope WV (the Switzerland of college football) joins the independent corps as described. Give that 25th Southern slot to Tulane. THE FULL PICTURE IS IN! -August 11, 2022 ND TO STAY INDEPENDENT; MIAMI IS IN, JOINING THE SEC! (They're going to 25) THE NEW FULL MEMO ON COLLEGE FOOTBALL REALIGNMENT... Please remember, as Commissioner Warren said, these things are planned well in advance... To the B1G (FOX): Pitt, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Utah, Oregon, Kansas, Arizona and Colorado for 25 (all here mentioned are AAU schools). To the SEC (ESPN): NC(aau), Duke(aau), UVA(aau), Clemson, Florida St., West Virginia, Georgia Tech(aau), Miami and Virginia Tech for 25. Notre Dame (NBC) (and BYU?) will stay independent with playoff access. Look for an independent alliance to include ND, BYU and the service academies moving forward. NOTE: Divisions are only for the purpose of assuring regional play and reducing travel, and could be annually flexible by school requests. These divisions are likely to be more relevant in non football sports. The football teams with the top 4 (at least, could go to 8 [flexibility?], culminating with the Rose Bowl) conference records will go to the conference semifinals in early or mid December regardless of their divisions, and the conference championships are to be played on New Year's Day (B1G/Rose, SEC/Sugar, Third25/Cotton). B1G25 Southern Pacific division Cal USC UCLA Arizona Utah B1G25 Northern Pacific division Colorado Nebraska Stanford Oregon Washington B1G25 Great Plains division Minnesota Iowa Kansas Wisconsin Illinois B1G25 Great Lakes division Indiana Purdue Northwestern Michigan Michigan State B1G25 Union division Rutgers Maryland Penn State Pitt Ohio State Meet the SEC25: Knowing that Pitt is going B1G, and 8 more ACC schools are going to the SEC, that's more than enough schools than needed to break the ACC contract. Given the continuing regional continuity of the SEC, divisions will be even less significant than in the B1G. Maintaining certain rivalries and neighborly games will be more a matter of game "reservation" than divisional assignments. Again, the 4 (or 8, or a flexibility to assure fair access) best conference records of the SEC to play in semifinals in early December. Texas Oklahoma Texas A&M Arkansas Kentucky Missouri LSU Miss State Ole Miss Tennessee Vanderbilt Alabama Auburn Florida Florida St. Georgia Georgia Tech South Carolina Clemson North Carolina Duke UVA Virginia Tech West Virginia Miami The rest to comprise TheThird25 conference with access relegation to playoff eligible divisions (similar to Euro soccer leagues) with guaranteed football playoff slots for their top teams every year. (Realignment for non football sports in this third conference, as membership could include 40 or so schools, with likely only 25 members of which will start the football season with access to the national playoff, more permanent regional sub conferences will be needed, and allowing these regional divisions to develop organically is expected to be one of the final components, and possibly most time consuming, such that the networks/B1G/SEC intend to allow the third conference a couple years of organization before defining a final playoff structure.) This third conference is going to be full of badass non AAU schools from coast to coast, will have playoff access, and likely compete well for national titles moving forward. And now be introduced to TheThird25 Conference: TheThird25 (Apple/Amazon/Innovative Media Delivery, -and maybe CBS) (Assuming BYU stays independent) 1) Oklahoma St. 2) Washington St. 3) TCU 4) Arizona St. 5) Kansas St. 6) Baylor 7) Boise St. 8) San Diego St. 9) NC St. 10) Tulane (AAU school) 11) Rice (AAU school) 12) UCF(disney/espn) 13) Louisville 14) Cincinnati 15) Houston 16) Boston College To finish TheThird25: Utah State Syracuse Hawaii Oregon State Fresno State Iowa State Texas Tech SMU Memphis and/or Southern Miss or Wake Forrest or Colorado State or Tulsa or Wyoming or New Mexico or UConn or Nevada or UTEP or Army or Navy or Air Force... etc. Relegation clearly required. The Eligible76 (77 - BYU?) So that makes 76 teams with playoff access each year: B1G25, SEC25, TheThird25 (with relegation beyond 25), and independent Notre Dame (and BYU?). B1G/SEC to play 9 of 11 regular season games in conference (4 division, 1 each in the other 4 divisions, plus 1 reserved/rivalry game =9), and 2 non conference games (1 allowed to be an opponent beyond the eligible76). How can this happen? Quite simply. -and in the end likely a value booster for all schools through the 3 mega conferences... Except for the 32 currrent legacy members of the B1G/SEC, revenue sharing as we've known it is finished. The rest will be taken on and paid in accord with their relative fanbase/marketshare and other values brought to the table. And they're selling this beautifully.... This has to be the single best dudes' soap opera to run the sportswire in some time. This is intentional. It's a done deal, but milking the interest is just the first part of this brilliant college football marketing campaign. -or, blame capitalism. ✌🤠✌ Look for something called the "Independent Invitational" game to be played in early December alongside the conference semifinals, and to be managed by The Playoff Commission, playing Notre Dame (and/or BYU?) and possibly service academies against a team hoping to make a playoff or better bowl claim, or any other 2 teams the Commission may deem appropriate in a given year in order to help clarify and minimize their playoff selections upcoming after the bowls. (It has been proposed that any Division 1 school relegated beyond the eligible76 could achieve instant transcendence with an undefeated (11-0) season -w/10 D1 wins- and a likely invitation to the Independent Invitational prior to major bowl selection.) The bowls will play out during the holidays and could have playoff selection implications depending on the year. PLAYOFF FLEXIBILITY IS THE KEY (setting an arbitrary number of playoff slots before the season plays out is a failed model): The concept of yearly playoff flexibility should be incorporated. Every year is different; setting an arbitrary number of playoff slots before the season plays out inevitably rubs against fairness for the next team left out. After the 3 Conference championships on New Year's Day (yielding 3 guaranteed advanced playoff births) the Playoff Commission should call no less than 4 teams, but up to 16, or any (even odd) number in between, such that no eligible undefeated team is left out (an "objective, measurable, clear and articulable delineation between the last team to qualify, and all remaining eligible teams..."), and playing such few games as necessary to answer but one question: Who is number 1?

[@tacticalmattfoley]

It is weird to see schools getting out of their geographic footprint. Travel costs are going to rack up for the southern California schools to the point where you might question sustainability--not for football, but the non-revenue sports who travel multiple times per week (women's golf, for example).

[@Honeybread-ox5ho]

Repent and trust in Jesus you will be saved

[@goodough]

Oregon and Washington need to go to the BigTen…….then their little brothers OS and WS can go with them then Colorado ( Coach Prime University) and Utah go to Big Ten……Then Arizona and ASU go to Big XII….

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

The Big 10 has no interest in either CU or Utah.

[@earnthis1]

It's all about money. I couldn't care less about that. I like the PAC 12 competition, but I'm just a normal person. I enjoyed being a student there and watching the games. Everything is changing now/again. Will this still make for good football. We'll see.

[@dacokc]

“Im a fan of the power 5”…. Meanwhile the SEC takes 1/3 the original Big12…

[@dacokc]

Big 12 sat on their hands because the league was held hostage by OU and UT…… If you didn’t know that then you’re a fool.

[@westernciviccapital3075]

PAC to immediately add 6 (at least 3 are AAU) for the interim (which will give the PAC presense in every major market in the SW outside of L.A.), prior to B1G taking 7 current PAC members: Kansas(AAU), SMU (Dallas), Rice (AAU Houston), Tulane (AAU New Orleans), SDSU (San Diego), AND Air Force OR Houston OR New Mexico OR Hawaii OR Vanderbilt (AAU. if involuntarily booted from SEC, good travel partner for Tulane). -adding 3(4 if Vandy) more AAU schools for 10 (V11) total in the PAC. This will be announced and built with the media partners in a few weeks. Should the show not go on... (i.e. the B1G Pacific expansion), the future of the PAC will be very bright with these 16 Powerhouse Universities: Washington Washington State Oregon Oregon State California Stanford San Diego State Utah Colorado Kansas Arizona Arizona State Southern Methodist Rice Tulane AND Air Force OR Houston OR New Mexico OR Hawaii OR Vanderbilt.

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Vandy is not going to leave the SEC a conference they’ve been in from the beginning.

[@westernciviccapital3075]

You might do well to read the full comment you wish to reply to. 🤦‍♂️ 'cause, no shit, Sherlock.

[@OutsidetheEchochamber]

@@westernciviccapital3075oh you’re serious I thought you were posting this on every video as a joke? 😂

[@rolfpeters123]

The Big 12 Commissioner is doing everything he can to destroy the PAC 12 Conference. It is a sorry situation. Destroying another conference in order to somehow enhance the Big 12. Yes, you can blame the PAC 12 for much of its current situation but the folks in the Big 12 have been aggressively trying to tear apart a conference that has a long history in college football and all the other college sports. It all comes down to TV dollars but to Brett Yormark directly contacting multiple PAC 12 schools trying to push its demise.

[@vernonsheldon-witter1225]

There is absolutely no proof that Brett Yormark has anything to do with the self-destruction of the PAC. This was a result of disastrous decisions by the PAC leadership, Larry Scott, and your own Presidents for years and carried on by Kliavkoff. We did not force you to make those business mistakes- you made them on your own. We did not cause the defection of your 2 largest money makers- your leadership did that. Yormark did not contact those universities, UA and ASU have been talking to the Big 12 for 3 years now. CU and Utah were simply told there was an alternative through a 3rd party. He did not pursue them. He just told them we are open for business- they saw what was coming- and that did not take any Houdini. It would do you well personally to stop crying in your beer about this being someone else's fault and look at your own mistakes. Your own leaders have caused your problems by waiting too long to get a TV contract that will limit your access even further than it was, (and still not having one) that pays peanuts. That was the PACs' fault. We did not force your leaders into having a Network that very few people could access for the broadcast of your athletics, then sinking untold dollars into it. That you did all by yourselves. Plus changing your focus from athletics to academics in every conceivable situation. Your Conference is legendary for making horrible business decisions and sticking with them until you have caused a self-destruct sequence. We were just there and available as a safe and stable conference home where your athletically inclined universities could find a place and some success. If Yormark and the Big 12 were really out to destroy you, it would have been over by now. You are the cause of your own woeful misfortunes.