The Pale Garden is Good, But it Could be Great...

[@YBDownsta]

I like the idea of pale jungle and pale savannah and other pale biomes, like the terraria corruption but its like an illness that sucks all the life and colour out of the biomes

[@The-Thing]

Indeed!

[@shewanareddick4067]

@@The-Thing is this update out yet? Because I’ve also been seeing it everywhere.

[@The-Thing]

@@shewanareddick4067 it's in snapshots and previews. It will be released by the end of the year

[@shewanareddick4067]

@@The-Thing ok thank you 🙏

[@shewanareddick4067]

@@YBDownsta I like your idea

[@Mallcom7000]

Not necessarily this video but i feel like alot of people are getting the wrong idea. It was just an announcement not the full update, it’s like seeing a movie trailer and being upset that the movie is only 3 minutes long. Like I said not this video specifically but just something to think about

[@SigmaAirplaneBalls]

yeah but usually they don't do drastic changes with the official release

[@Mallcom7000]

@@SigmaAirplaneBalls thats true. they usually add some more usability before it releases. I remember the trial chambers were kinda dumb but they ended up making it pretty cool. I think one thing people miss alot though is Minecraft is a building game. Survival mode is intended to be creative mode but with survival aspects. Most the rewards you get are building blocks or items to help you build more efficiently. The fighting and gear progression is more of an after thought. They are hinting at that more with the warden and creaking where the point isn’t to fight them. I could honestly see them keeping it as is where the reward for the biome is the wood type. They could definitely make the trees more unique and make it more atmospheric. Theres a video on it but i can’t remember the title or channel name. That being said I think they should give combat and progression more love, thats why the nether update was so amazing cause they appealed to both sides and added new blocks and gear.

[@thomasdevlin5825]

Another commenter pointed this out already but this is only just a snapshot, given the name "winter drop" the full update is at least two months away so it's almost definitely unfinished. As things currently stand though the biome is lacking, so it's still fun to throw out ideas on what could be implemented. It seems that the pale garden isn't just a variation of the dark oak forest, it literally IS a dark oak forest, as in it's only capable of generating on top of an existing dark oak forest, and as a result some pale gardens generate comically small, the first two I found generated at the very edge of a dark oak forest and it only caught a couple of trees. I really hope that gets fixed, I feel like the pale garden can only work if it is big enough to get lost in, that way the chances of an accidental creaking encounter are much higher. There also needs to be a reason to get lost in a pale garden, just stopping by to grab some pale oak isn't really going to cut it, they just made the creaking scare illagers, so maybe we could run with that and add abandoned illager structures that only rarely spawn in the pale garden, that way you would have an incentive to actually travel deep enough into the biome to run out of daylight before finding your way out

[@gaminggeckos4388]

The Creaking needs to be way faster, way stronger, and also be able to close its eyes after it sees that you’re looking at it, so you can only catch a brief glimpse if the eyes. The hearts should drop a new material when destroyed without silk touch, which can be used to craft items such as a block that emits redstone signal when looked at, or a weapon that normally has the strength of a wooden sword, but deals triple damage when striking an enemy that’s looking away from you, and also increases stealth

[@The-Thing]

great ideas

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

The creaker needs to belike the joker.

[@EmileAnimation]

I have an idea, the creecking only does one and a he’ll damage but it has pearcing, that means it ignores armor

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Maybe torns too

[@JazzyBlocks4]

This is really good!

[@hi_its_rj]

This guys editing is that of a channel with 15k subscribers, major respect to this guy, in my opinion the Creaking is a great addition to the game

[@hi_its_rj]

And also, it is a quite a small addition to the game they made a reskin of the dark oak biome

[@thegiantjj]

Maybe it could spread very slowly (not like an infection mod) but if you destroy those hearts you stop the spread

[@ea-nr2hd]

They should have Tameable Skeleton Wolves in the biome as a rare spawn. They are the most iconic mob that isn't in the game, only officially being recognized in Minecraft Earth. We need the Grimm representation.

[@vivikit17]

i like the similarities between the creaking and SCP-173, and i think it would be amazing if they worked more similarly. like the basic stuff, like making it faster and deal more damage, but also maybe an occasional blinking animation for the player that lets the creaking move freely for a fraction of a second. not enough to be too dangerous, but it would definitely give the eerie vibe.

[@jonathanhimes6026]

The creaking dead forest or the pale creaking forest are good names for the pale garden. And a new structure where the corruption is, and you have to defeat the structure to get the corruption to go away, and you can always fight it, and this structure should be in the pale garden.

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

I would say: buff the Creaking, add more plants, make the pale trees fireproof, add structures, give some kind of a useful reward for defeating the creaking

[@google-talent-scout]

Well done, keep up the good work!

[@lilhoodie1]

I've watched too many videos on this update to count and I've noticed a few things. Mainly, a lot of people claim that there's something wrong with the biome's name, however I find all reasons that people bring up are narrow minded and not how we should be looking at things. Mojang using the word "garden" here could be in some sense, appealing to the idea that beyond our normal classifications there is something more to this place that warrants its title. Much like how the Warden's name implies so many things about the ancient city and the deep dark. I find the most common name suggestion "Pale Forest" to be very shallow and samey with the rest of Minecraft's biomes, I can tell Mojang really wanted this biome to stand out (for better or worse) and the name definitely was inspired by that ethos. As for what the deeper meaning behind the name could be, maybe this biome was the result of the illagers performing some sort of experiment? They run away from The Creaking so that theory does have weight and they at least fear this biome. Using "garden" also has some more implications, implying that this biome isn't natural but rather intentionally or not, placed by something. Whether or not Mojang elaborates on it's name or not, I think it's extremely fitting, especially when you don't hone in as much on the literal. Great video overall though, i just found it weird so many people felt the name didn't fit.

[@The-Thing]

good point actually i hadnt thought about it that way. i think in the end the name isnt the biggest concern anyway haha

[@kushpatel5573]

its still illusive, garden, to most people, tends to mean an area with shrubery, flowers and other things. To stick with the "creepy" theme they could choose to add something like white spider-lillies or smn aswell tho

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

@lilhoodie1 Yes it also explain why some people think Mojang should do an update each week, or per month. People just don't bother to accept view different from them It's to deep integrated within us.

[@TotemLord-j2t]

I love your ideas!

[@YellowzAnaqi]

Terraria type shi, i do agree about buffing the creaking, they're too weak

[@kushpatel5573]

THEY NEED WHITE SPIDER LILLIES OR SOMETHING

[@partyzombie6211]

underatted channel

[@The-Thing]

@@partyzombie6211 thanks!

[@jonathnmartin9845]

I've got to say, well done for discovering the glitch, I first found out about it from Spoke, well done for discovering it, but you have to give Spoke credit for noticing its full potential

[@The-Thing]

@@jonathnmartin9845 what glitch?

[@jonathnmartin9845]

@@The-Thing I replied this to a different video which I watched before but my internet was glitching, it must have posted it here too, though I like you video as well, nice ideas

[@The-Thing]

@@jonathnmartin9845 aah okay 😂

[@SageGreenBone]

It just would make sense that this would be a flower/garden update as well. I’ve seen someone suggest flower points with colours in them, I say make them spawn in them occasionally, not in every single garden so you HAVE to explore more than one to see them. They could add like 3 something pale related flowers (if I don’t get a pale mushroom I’ll go to fight them at mojang myself) + 1-2 new decorative coloured flowers and give 2 new effects to suspicious soup :) Edit: this goes without saying but if they don’t add white pumpkins they lose a great opportunity.

[@christopher3471]

6:53 calling it the pale forest i think would be better

[@emptybodyfm]

Honestly they should have just added this to the deep dark city’s at lest it would make sense there with the color pallet and new mob as a added scary effect to Al already scary area

[@Mr_Skeely]

Ngl the corrupt biome idea sounds fire

[@Mr_Skeely]

But these are drops so they take less time to code if they were to do this it would cost them so much

[@usersomethings]

It's a sub biome tho ‏‪0:32‬‏

[@Arrowkeys]

I mean, mojang themselves said they are inspired by willow trees but I don't think they look like that at all. A willow tree biome with fireflies like this and maybe graveyard garden areas with nice loot that can spawn sound cool

[@Kunny-m3q]

I have an idea. make the creaking be able to teleport like the enderman.

[@wolfram-animate]

There should be a structure added to the pale garden with unique loot

[@testerwulf3357]

First I’ve seen of the update..now this is just blatant laziness 😬 I agree with your corruption idea, at least it’d add SOME uniqueness if they’re too lazy to change models and stuff 😒

[@Mr_Skeely]

Your 3rd idea was actually caught on with Mojang cuz it’s faster and more damaging

[@Mr_Skeely]

Your second idea was also listens bc now the creaking makes resin

[@The-Thing]

glad they listened!

[@Mr_Skeely]

@@The-Thing ikr it’s so much better I also thought the same thing with speed and damage I haven’t tried it tho 😂

[@PolaIndustries444]

Didn’t complain when the warped forest is just a blue crimson forest, Now complaining since a retextured dark oak is added

[@The-Thing]

@@PolaIndustries444 they were both new trees though

[@PolaIndustries444]

@@The-Thing Same as pale oak, Warped trees were a bit different though,

[@testerwulf3357]

@@PolaIndustries444You are missing the point. They were BOTH new! Dark oak IS NOT NEW. Reusing an OLD feature is the problem. The red and blue nether biomes are obvious parallels..we csn excuse them not looking unique because 1 it’s a nether biome no one cares if the nether looks particularly good and 2 they were added together so it’s overall something new. And it was only a SLIVER of the nether update, there was also so many new biomes added which each look unique. People complained and STILL complain the azalea trees are just flowered up oak trees..so I can see why people would complain this new biome is just a recolored dark oak forest

[@Draganyb]

Pale oak I think is meant to be a corrupted dark forest

[@OneAnt8000]

2:00 Kinda like a parasite. Cool!

[@THP_11_07]

I think it would cool if the pale garden acted like the forest from The Blair Witch Project and game. Where the pale garden is endless and it appears to be only night, when the Creaking spawns. I can only think of that working, if a new dimension is added, or you just continue being teleported back into the pale garden.

[@hi_its_rj]

creaking

[@The-Thing]

@@hi_its_rj before ultimate 🫣😱

[@stephensimpson3723]

And different texture for the wood. Not the planks and stuff.

[@Rpground]

I can't wait for them to completely ignore everyone and make it worse on release.

[@KingDominic-0]

make it scarier and a danger to the entire minecraft world and make it really hard and super terrifing and im good!

[@AimarDAGREAT]

I have one proposal for the creaking mob- make. it. have. a. jumpscare. It doesn't have to be extremely scary, maybe like when the creaking hits you it gives you an effect, maybe like grey fog or something. However, when it hits you it also jumpscares you, maybe like their face looks at you and you get the effect. Could be cool, and actually threatening.

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

But not a screamer

[@uncroppedsoop]

that's done to death though. ever since 2014 it's always been getting caught = jumpscare. it adds nothing at this point and would be weirdly out of place for Minecraft, like having a gun

[@utigaraptorRARA]

@@uncroppedsoop the guardians give jumpscares in a way too though

[@aniimaii]

2:49 I completely disagree with this take, the pale garden biome has a very unique ambience from the sky looking grey to the no music to the desaturated foliage ut has alot to offer I wish it was just bigger so we could actually make better use of its unique atmosphere

[@Adam-wb5fz]

with what do u edit

[@The-Thing]

@@Adam-wb5fz davinci resolve :)

[@ThumbsUpGuy213]

how did you get the snapshot?

[@The-Thing]

@@ThumbsUpGuy213 in java you select it in the drop down of versions in the launcher. In bedrock you have to play bedrock preview

[@SmearyPagee-v7n]

Wait, this dude has less than 100k subs? I deadass thought you were some huge KZbinr.

[@The-Thing]

@@SmearyPagee-v7n thank you!!

[@jonathanhimes6026]

Another nice name for the pale garden is the dying forest

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Too generic Curse forest Ancient woods Corrupted garden The silent biome path of forgiveness

[@testerwulf3357]

@@AgnesBooth-zu7twThe top 3 things you listed were even LESS unique 💀💀 Those are done to death in things..

[@EmileAnimation]

The tree itself is good

[@jonathanhimes6026]

But you can only fight it at night and you can fight it again

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Not enough

[@JazzyBlocks4]

😀

[@ShrubShroomMc]

But it spawns next to dark oak biome and its supposed to look like it

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Don't like the explanation

[@ShrubShroomMc]

@@AgnesBooth-zu7tw ok srry I can't type it out :(

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

I love fluffy cussy

[@dplays2462]

Good

[@JuhoSprite]

damn the palegarden is just like me. useless

[@The-Thing]

😭😭😭

[@jonathanhimes6026]

No, that's not true, lad

[@AzureBluGD]

why are the captions in the middle of the screen that's kinda annoying

[@The-Thing]

@@AzureBluGD I'm just trying things out thanks for the feedback I'll take it into consideration 🙂

[@AzureBluGD]

@@The-Thing sorry if that was a little harsh, maybe the captions are good for retention anyway

[@geo-6_electro]

i like the ideas, but the pale garden should be EXTREMLY rare cuz its ugly🤮

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Mate is not even a garden Viva la. France 🇫🇷

[@Z0MBIE-x]

why is this video so adhd

[@THEBULGARIANSLAV]

U know what wud make a great adishan to this forest makeing it a litel bit more dens for bit of edge on the travels,ading fog,makeing the trees bit more taller with 3-4 blocks bc we can bilding up and over and mabe makeing the Creecing bit more volnerble like takeing 7-8%damege with a dimonds sword and going up by makeing ur sword beter spikeing arownd18-19%of damege delt to it also with netherite sword arownd 25/6% and a axe 30% I like the vibes of it all but thear is more that can be added!!! Thats what Im think ing abowt it and one last thing I just subd soo ye I like whear ur chanal is going have a great day and all good❤👍

[@Frank_Erz]

The literacy crisis is real...

[@bomasempetite]

Im not even gonna try to justify that spelling what have you done

[@AgnesBooth-zu7tw]

Yeah agree make the trees taller maybe add some fog and that the biome never gets sunlight, if you cut the trees, the biome return to normal.

[@H3rcules]

I also agree mojang lazy asf . ik we have the great modding community to make up for mojang but it would be great to have the little things in the game. better realistic trees. rocks/ boulders

[@nenamoree9]

U shouldn't call Mojang lazy just because they release updates that the community calls "boring". IDK why people like the older updates more than the new ones. I mean of course back then they added more features to the game, but you don't need to complain about Mojang being lazy