The Panel Debates the 2004 Pistons vs 2017 Warriors

In this segment we discuss how a series between the 2004 Detroit Pistons and the 2017 Golden State Warriors would play out.
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[@ChelloTheKilla]

Mind you these be the same people that will bitch and moan that the warriors were unbeatable. Then in all these hypothetical they have the warriors losing 😂😂

[@yrgln7416]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@surgripigrip1]

Exactly.. the hate is real!!!

[@RichHoopsNba]

FACTS BRUH

[@yrnquin1560]

Low IQ comment thread. Warriors were unbeatable to their contemporaries. The people you refer to that have them losing, aren’t speaking about their contemporaries in those hypotheticals.

[@Dad_Son_twonovas]

That’s what I was saying. Lol first it’s warriors a super team. But a pistons team that won 1 championships out of 9 years together can beat them. But they not considered a super team themselves lol these are people that just want to disrespect the Warriors. And this other guy brought up Pat Bev and the 1 game he played ok in which they lost lol

[@KhalifaAlm]

This the dumbest argument of the year

[@Mindag13]

Facts lol

[@THE_HORSEYY]

How

[@talkwithdev1104]

💯

[@stanleywarren129]

Marz is the only one that is looking at facts over feelings. Yes the pistons were an all time defense but the warriors are an all time offense the pistons never played against. The warriors are closer to the pistons defensively than the pistons are to the warriors offensively.

[@Slyme1big]

Facts aka bias😂

[@vernonherb]

The question comes down to the rules under 00s the warriors will struggle to score 70 points With current rules it gets tricky becuase you have to imagine how much BETTER the pistons scorers will be with a lack of physical pressure And have access to Moving screens and gather steps and a lack of carring rules

[@VoltageMarvel]

​Explain how a rule change (that didn't effect much for guards, I'd anything, made it easier for guards to play offensively at the time) would change those three bombing it from the 3 point line? And offensively better? The pistons were a dogshit offensive team even for their time. And now you suddenly think they are going to be way better? The gap defensively is significantly shorter than the gap offensively. Gsw in 4 ​@@vernonherb

[@ecoblitz3655]

@@vernonherbyou’re delusional lol.

[@XaviorJordan]

@@vernonherb Rules wont matter. Pistons getting COOKED. Pistons made 4.1 threes per game AS A TEAM at 34% shooting lmao. Steph alone has hit at least 4.1/game 8 times.

[@user-gc1wj8tt2p]

This is PURE NOSTALGIA, 2017 warriors has 30pts curry, 30pts KD, 20pts Klay that's already 80 pts from 3 guys.. Pistons averaged what 90?

[@MarzTalksSports]

this is a weird way to look at things

[@pkagent14]

@@MarzTalksSports Did you see how hot the Celtics got from 3 during game 1 of the finals? If the warriors started shooting deep threes and made 35%-40% of them they will be up at least 20pts by half time. That pistons team can't compete with the modern NBA. They get swept easily.

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@pkagent14 i never said who wins. i just said that was a weird way to look at things

[@pkagent14]

@@MarzTalksSports Your good. All I'm saying is that nobody from the pre-2010 era is gonna be able to comprehend why Steph, Klay, and KD are shooting so many deep threes. Imagine steph making Logo threes on a team from 2004. They would be mind-blown. Remember back in 2014/15 when steph started doing that it was insane to see. Now its part of the game 😂.

[@user-gc1wj8tt2p]

@@MarzTalksSports It's always been about who can score? This why most people picked the celtics over the mavs, it's math. If we doing prediction models then why not use math instead of feelings?

[@tashonlittle1362]

Yall talking about Darwin Ham & Lindsey Hunter vs the fucking 2017 warriors?! Huh?!

[@DanteGoldz]

🤣🤣🤣

[@howitzdone8992]

GSW in 4 and they break the record for largest margin of victory ever 😂

[@Guyton1824]

Ong😂

[@zackrodriguez7519]

What’s crazy is I believe they already hold that record against the Cavs who would also smoke the pistons 😂 prime lebron and kyrie needed to score nearly 140 points to win ONE game against them, yet the pistons who were complete dog shit on offense are gonna win 4? The absolute FUCK out of here 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@raixvortex]

Mars with the logical take

[@xAzurWrathx]

Per Usual

[@krazykrazy8513]

Not really saying people will step out shows you don’t really know how big a difference 2 feet is between the 3 and middy of Chauncey could step out so would people like Tim Duncan demar Mj artis Gilmore Kareem Kevin mchale Shaun Livingston and way more people would be good 3pt shooters by his logic

[@AreT-me7vw]

@@krazykrazy8513the difference is Chauncey actually shot and made 3s so when he took those long 2s he was “settling”. Duncan & Kareem never shot 3s.

[@1Eashawty]

@@AreT-me7vwtayshaun prince would be a knockdown 3 pt shooter in this era too

[@KhalifaAlm]

GSW would demoralize them from the first half

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

Facts

[@marlowstanfield6815]

Wishful thinking

[@BlackPRanger]

Clamps!!!

[@tashonlittle1362]

The 17 warriors were great because they played like a team. Yall talk about matchups like it’s Iso all game smh

[@talkwithdev1104]

@@NothingElseMattersJM💯😭

[@zackrodriguez7519]

Thank you, do niggas actually think they were just running KD and Curry iso all game? They had the most revolutionary triangle-motion offense the nba had ever seen to that point with 5 three point threats and high level scoring in every possible facet. Only just now, nearly 10 years later, has the league caught up. Pistons wouldn’t even figure out how to guard it until they were already down 3-0

[@CourtxKings1]

Death, taxes, and ticket capping for the old school. Only things promised in life

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

Warriors winning by far Rasheed Wallace is high and a causal think he’s squad can beat the 2017 warriors with prime curry kd draymond klay

[@Taj-ex2oo]

I stopped listening when he said lindsey hunter clamping Steph curry, you lost me 😂😂

[@JuwanJordan-dp5wq]

That's hilarious asf😂😂

[@LilRod2]

We give lebron a pass for losing to the 2017 warriors but in every single hypothetical the warriors lose. It’s funny

[@talkwithdev1104]

Literally

[@thatguyforte]

Lose to who? They're saying the 04 Pistons specifically would beat them. They beat Kobe and Shaq in 5 games

[@talkwithdev1104]

@@thatguyforte the pistons would get they ass whooped by gsw

[@ecoblitz3655]

@@thatguyfortenow tell me which of Kobe and Shaq or anyone on that team shoot the ball like Draymond, Curry, KD and Klay. I’ll wait.

[@collegedropout2766]

Its crazy how the 2017 warriors went from unfair the greatest team ever to now they losing to anomalies

[@leosully5551]

Pistons would be better off playing the 15 GSW than 17 tbh….KD woulda been too OP for that pistons defense

[@SagaTheFunniest]

And the pistons still lose

[@marlowstanfield6815]

​@@SagaTheFunniestThe 15 Warriors barely beat Lebron by himself 😅😅😅

[@SagaTheFunniest]

@@marlowstanfield6815 Who is the 04 pistons to Prime Lebron?

[@SagaTheFunniest]

@@marlowstanfield6815 and how is it barely beat him when they won 3 straight

[@marlowstanfield6815]

@@SagaTheFunniest They were down 2-1 to Lebron

[@sergeistalin7916]

This is just crazy, the Pistons were a great team at protecting the rim, GS was the most versatile and unstoppable offensive team of all time. Shooting 33% from 3 is the same as 50% from 2, those Warriors shot 40% from 3 as a team against opponents that learned how to guard 3 pointers. The Pistons just wouldnt know how to stop that team. They would let them shoot and get cooked, then they would overplay to stop the 3s and give up open dunks every possesion, then they would start to switch everything and they would get stucked with Chauncey Billups guarding KD on the post or Ben Wallace guarding Curry on ISO at 35 feet. That plus the most off ball movement that they had ever seen.

[@Mrsoserene]

They comparing Jamaal tinsley to Klay Thompson?????? What are we doing here

[@DanteGoldz]

🤣

[@Teezythegoat]

2017 ain’t even a conversation. It would really be interesting to see if they could get more than one against the 2016 73-9 squad

[@larrymurray621]

He really comparing the pacers to the warriors shooters this is a total joke

[@edwardcoward1062]

Jamaal Tinsley 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thomasj1026]

The best offense always beats the best defense.

[@KhalifaAlm]

Chill way of stopping Steph “Steph is not gonna kick my ass” mentality

[@marlowstanfield6815]

If moving screens are Called Curry not averaging more than 22 ppg against that 04 Pistons team..

[@landonr.536]

@@marlowstanfield6815 LMAOO, Steph gets arrested for witch craft when he pulls one from the fkn logo against that team😭Be fr, he averages 30 in his SLEEP against the 04' pistons have some shame bruh.

[@marlowstanfield6815]

@@landonr.536 Curry couldn't even average 30 against the cavs lol, averaged 22 ppg in the 2016 Finals but he's going to average 30 against on of the best defensive teams all time? Without them moving screens to get Lindsy Hunter up off him that witch craft get shutdown!

[@DesignzRUs]

​Dude a HEALTHY 2017 Curry is way different than 2016. And that same defense couldnt even stop Tony Parker and Horry from getting wide open threes lmao. Couldnt even repeat​@@marlowstanfield6815

[@JimmyCooks-fg7st]

@@marlowstanfield6815the Boston Celtics 2022 was one of the best defensive teams in this era and steph averaged 31 ppg 50% field and 45% from 3 and that was without kd and klay a shell of himself. That Boston Celtics waaaaaay better defensive then the cavs. Oh yeah and the dpoy was guarding steph 😘

[@dttmtae]

crazy how the 17 warriors went from “most dominant team, ofc lebron had no chance” to “the 04 pistons would demolish them” lmao. so ask yourself.. would the 04 pistons even have made it through that 17 cavs team to even play the warriors? ABSOLUTELY TF NOT!!!!!

[@jps0583]

That’s what’s so crazy to me…everyone calls that warriors team unbeatable when it fits their narrative but on this show they always have them losing in a hypothetical match…I’ve heard these dudes say the early 2000s kings beat the 17 warriors😭

[@dttmtae]

@@jps0583 honestly its crazy to me, and very clear that people just hate the warriors because they ruined lebrons legacy, because we all know warriors in >5

[@jps0583]

@@dttmtae idk if they ruined lebrons legacy but ridiculous takes like this clearly come from nostalgia and bias bc there is no way the 04 pistons stand a chance vs the 17 warriors…ppl like chill can’t say that warriors team is unbeatable when talking about Lebron and then turn around and pick against them in every hypothetical vs a team from the 2000s or 90s😭

[@dttmtae]

@@jps0583 didnt ruin bron legacy? but apparently they wouldnt have beat bron if kyrie and love wasnt injured in 2015, apparently 2016 confirmed this, and apparently wouldnt have beat bron 2017 and 2018 of they didnt add kd.. thats 3 potential rings for bron people have a narrative over lmao. but now the 17 warriors can be beat by the pistons?! 😂 idgaf what year it is, warriors in >5

[@jps0583]

@@dttmtae no it didn’t ruin lebrons legacy bc he is still viewed as a top 2 player ever by most ppl…just bc lebron lost 3 rings to better teams doesn’t mean his legacy is ruined…and yes the warriors beat the pistons that’s what I said😭

[@RunHotsauce]

KD would’ve cooked Tayshaun

[@Raider2Pac]

None of these people would bet real money on Detroit

[@gospellover3223]

So basically the pistons who were a bad offense in they own era. Would adapt and be a good offense against GSW. But the elite defense of the warriors would have no chance of adapting against the pistons. Crazy how GSW is the on trick pony with 4 titles. But the pistons with aren't

[@tonyochiha9798]

Assuming that the 2004 Pistons offense and defense are integrated into the modern offense, this Pistons team is uniquely structured like a modern NBA team with Rasheed Wallace being able to hit the 3, and Tayshawn Prince being like an OG Anunoby. I think the Warriors with KD there wins this series in 6, which is a credit and respect to how good of a defense and the potential flexibility of that Pistons team.

[@GiverOfEnergy]

GS dog walking the Pistons. Prime Steph, Klay, Kd and Dray 😂 like huh

[@edwardcoward1062]

I like how the elite pistons scorers were shooting 42%, 41%, 39% from the field. Thats averages. Somehow against an elite defensive team like the warriors they are going to shoot better, score more points? The pistons could hold the warriors to 20 under their average and still would lose by 30. Scoring 60 points in games 😆

[@MCWon212]

Detroit is getting smoked. 4-1 at best. Don't care if it was today's rules or 2004 rules. Nobody on that Piston's team poses such a significant threat offensively and it's too much fire power to stop. If the Warriors can be beaten by the Pistons, it's probably time to stop classifying them as a super team. Because nobody has the Pistons as an all time great team.

[@rashadbeckham7141]

Pistons are a worse version of the 2008 Celtics trying to stay relevant by milking 1 ring. A young Dwade was giving them work in the 2005 playoffs before he got hurt and I think the Heat could’ve beat them if they were healthy.

[@user-dq6kc1rx1i]

For people speaking on 1 ring for the Celtics and or Pistons is ignorance at its finest. It's hard to repeat on any level of athletics if it's completive. It's plenty top 50 or 75 players to go ringless and yall talking about 1 ring smh. Straight up clueless causuals everything I see a take as such.

[@DanteGoldz]

@@user-dq6kc1rx1ishut up.

[@jrob830]

It was kd and livingston from the midrange. The 16 warriors were 3 point heavy. That's why they added kd

[@MCWon212]

If were to analogize this in terms of NFL, this would be like a team having Randy Moss, Antonio Brown, Tony Gonzales, Mike Alstott, solid O Line, Tom Brady, and an advanced reactive offensive scheme; and believing that the 1985 Chicago Bears would shut them down. We mythologize these old teams to an excessive degree, even making way for some favorable counterfactuals but never do the same in the reverse. Ex. "If person X was in today's era, they would average 50 Points"!!!! Nobody ever asks how good Prime Kawhi would be as an individual defender with 1990 rules and schemes. I've debated people on Reddit who said MJ would be a 40% 3Pt shooter in today's era. How Sway?! He shot 32.7% from 3 with more judicious shot selection. Some really toxic debates after the MJ doc came out. 😂😂😂

[@MCWon212]

@@NothingElseMattersJM OK so he gets those coaches and becomes a great three point shooter. What skills are you taking away? Time is finite, and the time he is alloting to his three point game is taking away from other skills. The problem with people who argue this is that they want to give MJ the elite 3 point shot, while holding all his other skills static, which is unreasonable.

[@landongeorgi9260]

Warriors would legit sweep this may be the worst debate I’ve heard

[@w.w.1348]

It's not just one team shooting 3s and one team shooting mid-range jumpers. That mid range team is also getting more "and 1s" leading to shooting more free throws. That is also causing foul trouble for the other team. Going to the foul line will also assist in greater offensive consistency, as opposed to the 3 game which can be more hot or cold.

[@sergeistalin7916]

The problem that is that GS is going to be more efficient in the midrange and at the paint too. Shooting 33% from 3 is the same as 50% from 2. Warriors shot 40% as a team in an era in which teams already learned that they had to guard the 3 and how to at least avoid easy 3s. GS doesnt matter if they are hot or not from 3, against them you have to always guard them as if they are hot because letting them make 2 shots can end in Klay or Curry scoring 8 3s in a row. That creates missmatch problems and openings in rotations.

[@Morfeis]

For ticket to say that the warriors struggled with the clippers in 2019 is insane work fr. They beat them in 5 games and in one of those games KD went off for like 40 something.

[@secoTheSonicFan]

The debates on this channel are LUNACY

[@Mrsoserene]

Lindsey hunter the Steph stopper? 😂 ppl say anything. Tay clampin K??? And they talkin bout rip coming off screens, fam, Klay doin the same shit but for 3s. Folks cried for years about that dubs team, now all of a sudden every classic team beating them. Bruh they woulda cruised to a 3 peat. Detroit won one chip and never made it back. Folks tweakin

[@Episodewinner99]

Lebron should be asked this question

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

Warriors by 20

[@edwardcoward1062]

The pistons had 1 guy who shot 50% or better from the field, corliss. The warriors as a team shot 50% from the field 😆

[@dat_black_gui1745]

I don’t ever want to hear that the warriors were unbeatable and that the league was unfair again from these people. From the way, the panel is speaking, It feels like damn near anybody was capable of beating they ass

[@keltonmarshall3517]

Ticket stop it

[@Nightmare-we8vm]

Marz is exactly right. Yes, teams can adjust, but the biggest difference between today's game and previous eras is the understanding of the game. There are no rules against teams building what the Pistons had in 04. The reason teams don't build that way anymore is because 1v1 matchups are far less viable when teams are able to run 2 man on an island and the help defender is punished with open threes. People are calling Gobert a fraud for not being able to guard Luka in space. Teams switch because guards can shoot over screens and the coaches have realized that if you set screens further back the guard can drive into a 3pt pull up instead of a deep middy. The Pistons would have to make many adjustments like possibly sitting DPOY Ben Wallace because Curry and Draymond are nasty on the high ball screen and Wallace is never gonna be near the rim.

[@flight_knight_]

Defense wins championships but great offense always beats great defense. Add the fact the Warriors have great defense with Draymond, Igoudala, Klay. If we’re talking iso ball and street ball instead of team chemistry, KD and Curry are unguardable too. And the Pistons aren’t a giant team to make Warriors play their bench bigs. It’s 2017 and not even close.

[@Okiji180]

Lebron in 2006 took the 64 win piston team to 7 games with nobodies there’s no way in hell that they could match up with the 2017 warriors they would beat the breaks off em

[@steveaustin2003]

The guy with no picture were not listening and just smoking weed at home 😂😂😂

[@Tob10k]

W Marz

[@slumeasyy838]

wallace shot at a 33.6% clip and draymond shoots 31.9% from the three on a second note in 04 Wallace shot 33.1% and dray shot 30.8% so if we’re running wallace of the line y’all must be doing the same to dray making the paint more wide for GS

[@WrestlingisaW]

Look I love that pistons team I swear I do, but we are truly forgetting who 2017 Kevin Durant was if you think tayshaun prince has a realistic chance of guarding him than have at it. The warriors are spacing the court out someone will get open on screen and then just like that series over what are we doing?

[@flight_knight_]

Iggy and Klay were guarding stars like Harden, CP3,, Lillard, Kyrie, and Lebron. 2017 warriors smoke. What’s Rip Hamilton gonna do to them?

[@lilant033]

Young peeps always pay attention to the offensive game more than defensive so you can never get them to understand the logic of 80s 90s early 2000s nba defense

[@KamSosa011]

Why are they talking like the warriors don’t have the greatest spacing of all time they can space the floor completely out and make them guard one on one and at that point it’s over

[@matthewburke5044]

Lmao why are you guys acting like Sheed was an elite shooter??? He was a solid shooter

[@karizie]

Now after post-injuries, people forget KD to the point that comparing JT to KD is funny.

[@Field_Marshall]

I’m from the old school era of the nba. Ive watch the nba since early 90’s I’ve seen 91 bulls defeat 91 lakers in the 91 nba finals. I know for a fact 17’18’ golden state warriors would wipe 2004 detroit pistons off the face of the earth 🌍

[@Melly_Wayy]

AD, Blake, or Sheed ?

[@steveaustin2003]

We acting like the 04 Rasheed Pistons is the Blazers Rasheed. He is already slow but can shoot that time. Dray will have his fits vs Shees but he can definitely handle him.

[@steveaustin2003]

3 will trump their 2pts. It’s a gentlemans sweeeep!!! You guys are funny 😂 Zsa Zsa is there for a reason, he will set and Dray crushing screens for Lindsay. You also said Lindsay will stay like glue with Steph but they can easily switch it off with Rasheed and as Dray said Rasheed can’t move laterally and he will get smoked by Curry.

[@willtheconqueror6148]

I love them early 2000’s Pistons teams but they trippin balls my boy. Not the 17 GSW. Their bench was also the 2016 bench that helped get 73 games. How is Ben Wallace defending 5 out???

[@willhunter9584]

Old school offense would be better based off lack of defense alone plus they switch too much

[@jay2shifty603]

I feel like it would be a good serious but I’m be honest I think the warriors win in 6 the space and gravity that Steph pulls is crazy and add on Kd,Klay and Iggy there going to either put 2 eyes on Steph or Kd which leaves shooters and cutters for open shots and easy looks.

[@IAM-vr6xx]

2017 Warriors would outpace and outscore that 2004 Pistons team this shouldn't even be a conversation at all.

[@talkwithdev1104]

Thank you marz

[@josheasy6716]

Ben W is my guy n a dawg n but he’s so undersized, KD evenn taller then him, yes he’s a shot blocker but he ain’t swatting KD who’s finnesse n agile around the cup ..

[@steveaustin2003]

They still have Iggy from the bench. KD will murder Tayshaun.

[@lilant033]

The 17 warriors were good but nobody was going at steph making him play defense, the 04 pistons will make him play wherever he guard, RIP Hamilton will cook Klay in iso

[@jctslice]

Warriors sweep. How are the Pistons scoring enough to keep up with the Warriors ? Remember, this isn't a one-way team in Golden State like they saw with Phoenix in that era. Warriors were arguably the best offensive AND defensive team. Pistons already didn't score a whole lot as it is, but now you're going against the #1 defense arguably in the league back then who could switch everything and a "big" who could guard 1-5 ? I think the complete opposite of these guys. Pistons wouldn't be able to score enough And also, Rasheed wouldn't be as big a mismatch as some think for Draymond. It's like we forget that he was doing a great job of defending jump shooting bigs who could post like LaMarcus Aldridge and Kevin Love. Aldridge especially plays a very similar offensive game to Rasheed in terms of being able to post & shoot the pick-and-pop and turnaround jumpers. He didn't have the range of Rasheed, but again, he often guarded Kevin Love too who COULD stretch out to 3. There isn't really a comparable team that the Pistons saw to GSW, but the Warriors did in 2016 see a historically great defense in San Antonio & that was WITHOUT KD

[@Kai-Soh]

You can tell they all respect Marz coz they know he's more matured with his takes then all of them. Their nostalgic tendencies are a weakness in these "debates".

[@andrewlansing1165]

Lindsay Hunter was a excellent defender

[@conchobar]

We don't know how old teams would play under the new rules, but we do know how modern NBA teams play under the older rules. FIBA and Olympic rules are just older NBA rules. Steve Kerr coached Team USA to a 4th place finish in the 2023 FIBA World Cup. So its fairly easy to assume the 2004 Pistons would nearly sweep 2017 GSW under the older rules.

[@steveaustin2003]

This old dudes got taught by a young bull in grey hoodie 😂

[@jonathanbarnes111]

2014 spurs beat both

[@pioneered4722]

Offensively we weren’t great? Bro I know we were holding teams to 70pts but we were blowing those teams out. By 20+. Everybody.

[@parkerk06]

We cant be saying the warriors are unbeatable and than turn around and say teams like the 01 lakers and this pistons team could beat them

[@orlandowilliamson691]

Pistons was a great team but the only team i see beating that warriors team are the 2001 Lakers or the96 Bulls.!!Or even the 2009 Lakers, its crazy no one ever talk about how great they were or even the 2014 Spurs.

[@harp1288]

Lmao the 09 lakers are getting 4-0’d by the 2017 warriors I like the optimism but no, the 2017 warriors are the best single nba team ever

[@orlandowilliamson691]

​@@harp1288Nah they Def winning at least 1 or 2, but the 2001 lakers would be my best bet against the warriors

[@orlandowilliamson691]

​@@harp1288If people say the pistons has a chance why not the 2009 Lakers?

[@harp1288]

@@orlandowilliamson691 “people” never said the pistons it was Rasheed Wallace’s gullible self that thought the 04 pistons were that good, neither the 2001 lakers, 09 lakers or 04 pistons even come close to the 2017 warriors

[@KrispyKleenex365]

Julio caesar Chavez Went 89-0 Ended with 107 Wins , 6 losses , 2 draw 115 total fights 86 KO Floyd Mayweather 50-0 27 KO Mccants got a point…. If Floyd had 30 more fights , would he have 0 losses ?

[@ktmoney5680]

The pistons would be blessed to win 2 games out of this series come on 😭

[@matthewburke5044]

Bruh how is dam hunter getting in the game???? They aren't playing dam Billups, hunter, and rip at the same time.

[@jaywright4671]

This shouldn't even be a debate, pistons would get swept.

[@steveaustin2003]

😂😂😂😂😂 the guy with no picture doesn’t understand what the guy in grey hoodie. 04 Pistons cannot defend all the actions 17 Warriors will run.

[@jeremiahcooper1509]

Bro Detroit specialize in protecting the rim and warrior specialize in 3 point shooters. This would be a bad match up for Detroit. You asking Wallace to defend Durant and curry one on one. That BBQ. Billips is a great defender and shooter but he never had to chase three elite shooters around. Ben Wallace would be ineffective sheed would be too tired to step out and defend a 7 footer ball handler and try to give 25 on the other end.

[@ThaTruth223]

bro brought up the 2019 warriors for his argument….man he’s such a weirdo

[@Theflamehasira35]

Some of y’all don’t realize it’s more to playing ball 😭then shooting lmao I don’t think the warriors would lose but it damn sure ain’t gone be no cake walk either 😭

[@boonebeasley9622]

Ticket be chatting pistons have no chance

[@Jimmy7012E]

Why we acting like the Warriors didn’t play defense tho????

[@decarririchardson-curry5851]

Man how quick they forget man 2017 warriors in 5

[@AquariusLeviathanProphecy]

It's about floor paceing 😂😂😂 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOLOLOL

[@kjo2130]

The problem with oldheads is that they let their nostalgia cloud their judgement. That pistons team was amazing but come on man… they cannot keep up offensively with the warriors.

[@deomocj7788]

teshayn prince ticket should be deplatformed

[@deomocj7788]

i just watched that series

[@ChroniclerOfJudah]

I’d take the 04 pistons in a solid 7 game series

[@np134]

This shit is so stupid, KD's rings don't count but this is like the 4th hypothetical team that beats them. It just doesn't make sense.

[@Dad_Son_twonovas]

You can’t bring up playoffs now because if these teams now was used to playing with how they was going to call fouls this playoffs they would adjust to it and be able to score. The refs didn’t start letting them play till the last 15 games of the season. Before it was ticky tack fouls

[@Dad_Son_twonovas]

And he brought up Reggie Miller. Giving pistons problems at an old age. Just think if Reggie was in his 20s and can dribble and create his shot like curry. And you have another 2 players that can do the same . Lol come on it’s not close

[@landonr.536]

This can't be fr😭 2017 warriors would beat the 04' pistons ass so badly in game 1 they wouldn't even suit up for game 2.

[@johnathanbroadnax1588]

Them boyz shooting the pistons out the gym, 2017?! Oo yea its over

[@slimdreamchaser]

It’s real cute how you guys are fighting for Detroit. It honestly shows how respectful they are to Detroit but cmon GSW have 4 HOF, to 1.5 HOF maybe? Plus GSW bench.. don’t get me started 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@user-dq6kc1rx1i]

If Draymond is hof talent Ben Wallace Rip Ham and Rahseed should have been 1st ballots if we talking individual game but I digress

[@pallani8471]

The warriors are demolishing this pistons team. Yall are just trying to make conversation and I get that

[@DesignzRUs]

A team that could scrap up one ring ? Lmao aite yall got it

[@Rileylmao_]

Pistons would see what the Warriors were doing during warmups and forfeit lol

[@clausellwilliams9625]

04 pistons takes this. Too physical for warriors, warriors struggles against physical teams

[@harp1288]

Lmao odd take

[@ayopodcast6242]

😂😂😂 Warriors in 4 no more than 5