The Parallel Between Mendicant Bias and Offensive Bias & Cortana and The Weapon (Halo Infinite Lore)

[@HiddenXperia]

For those wondering, the picture I used for Offensive Bias is concept art from the Infinite art book that I'm 99.9% sure is what it's meant to look like. Fingers crossed we get to see OB in all its glory in a future campaign DLC :D

[@TheJoviLovi]

Fingers crossed for a dramatic entrance :D

[@otherZinc]

Excellent video! Also, I believe Cortana is alive.

[@ddsretro2697]

Same. All the hints are there

[@clintelkins9630]

Well I mean it WAS in the infinite art book, so that's kinda a near guarantee to me

[@DirtInMyBeer94]

Man I love Halo lore

[@justintasker2347]

The created and endless are fine. The flood are amazing. I hope halo can bring back our favorite galactic horror. I say give us a M rated dlc.

[@mysteriousstranger5873]

My theory is the flood will manipulate Both the endless and banished, with maybe even a primordial pulling strings

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Honestly I'd rather they expanded on the severely un-fleshed-out Created and Endless rather than perpetually over-using the already very well-established Flood.

[@ShadeStormXD]

i was really disappointed that the campaign didnt include any

[@JayPlusForerunner]

The entire story summed up is: Mendicant/Cortana: who are you? Offensive/Weapon: I am you, but better

[@joshuahernandez8862]

Can I just say that hiddenxperia of all the halo KZbinrs has the best thumbnails not to mention the best videos

[@Tar-Numendil]

Mendicant Bias - Cortana Offensive Bias - The Weapon I made that connection as soon as I learned there was going to be an A.I. in Infinite called The Weapon, which was basically just a copy of Cortana created to defeat her. And Offensive Bias has to be the "someone/something" helping The Weapon in the systems of Installation 07. I love the Forerunner Saga. Cryptum, in particular, was fascinating to me.

[@LaggyKikee]

I just want the flood back. Imagine how satisfying it'll be to kill the flood with Infinite's AR.

[@osirisjojo6876]

I also want to use the promethean weapons against the flood in infinite.

[@dreamaboutcoffee4967]

It feels kinda weird to me that theyre trying to replace flood with the endless, as the ultimate threat. Its a cheap replacement. The flood is terrifying to go up against. The endless are kinda meh. More dead aliens.

[@osirisjojo6876]

@@dreamaboutcoffee4967 I see ur point. Let the Flood infect the Endless and then it will be, The Endless Flood.

[@intrepidomartv236]

@@dreamaboutcoffee4967 the flood is just some orange goo, nothing terrific in games

[@steveg2045]

@@dreamaboutcoffee4967 well what's terrifying is that The Endless are immune to the Halo rings. Whats even more terrifying is the idea of The Flood infecting The Endless, because then they too would be immune to the rings.

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

Now if only the flood where involved in this parallel like the last time.

[@Osiris064]

Remember that halo trailer years ago where MC was walking in the desert and a bird like guardian appeared? I thought that was mendicant bias and after the next halo came out, I thought MC was looking for mendicant to help him stop Cortona.

[@aurorialgaming1935]

Mendicant and Offensive working together is terrifying.

[@Gray_Man117]

If he does show up, then this is little theory of how it would happen The master chief is killing banished as usual, but suddenly he sees an army of banished shooting at something in the distance that you(master chief) cannot see, then suddenly a beam like laser comes out of nowhere and all the banished in the area are dead, this repeats a few more times, and chief is confused, wondering what did that, then mendicant shows up and assists you in defeating more banished, and explains why he’s going to help you(master chief).

[@SovietTricycle]

You stole that from end game you cheeky bastard 😏 *Insert Pointing Rick Dalton meme*

[@luissegura7059]

Cortana is packing some big "weapons" in that story board...

[@andrewmaderer1989]

I mean they do show up in DLC, that way we could have literally even just ONE of the laundry list of characters that 343 hinted at being in this game.

[@Trikstamachine]

I think we all know there are going to be more games and story development based off the Legendary ending. That in itself opens so many doors of what could come

[@morningrose428]

I'm so glad someone else noticed this! I nearly buzzed out of my skin when I heard the mention of OB, and that's what made me start putting the pieces together to make such an exciting picture.

[@Tar-Numendil]

4:24 *By Humanity. Neither Cortana nor The Weapon even come close to the level of Mendicant and Offensive Bias.

[@celestialflood7196]

Curious to know your opinion on the way the endless were brought into the story. I thought it was kinda insulting saying they are worse than the flood and don’t really show why. I get they are immune to a halo firing but nothing in the current campaign showed them being more of a threat than the flood. After all these years of building up the lore on the flood I’m disappointed that they’ve been pushed aside.

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

that's the trouble with time travel, if they can move freely through time and they're more dangerous than the all-consuming flood, nobody besides the endless should even exist. They ought to be able to go back to the beginning of time with their advanced technology and make sure nothing that could challenge them could ever evolve.

[@bensadfleck9972]

If the flood assimilates the endless, which are immune to halos they would become unstoppable

[@mysteriousstranger5873]

@@bensadfleck9972 that actually is a good point, especially considering that the most likely theory on why the endless are immune to the halos is because they don’t age, something that the flood could definitely assimilate

[@mysteriousstranger5873]

@@xXx_Regulus_xXx I like the idea that they are immune to aging, and the halos work by speeding up aging

[@bensadfleck9972]

@@mysteriousstranger5873 it kinda explains why the endless are outraged by the forerunners, their mere existence is a threat to the forerunners and the galaxy

[@slowfudgeballs9517]

That shot of the three lights in MC visor just HAS to be OB.

[@Mirelale000]

Haven't seen your videos in a while, GREAT intro 👍👍👍👍👍

[@xDuskcreeper]

I missed this kind of format video!

[@Zenlore6499]

I can’t wait to see what happens next!

[@drewandcharlie7583]

If there was a hiddenx halo lore video for every day of the year my life would go from a B to a B+

[@JUGGERNAUT____]

Took you long enough. I figured it out with halo 5. Didn't see the complete picture till infinite but expected Master Chief to at least get to say good bye to the real Cortana

[@Bigpandazomg]

Those 3 dots are absolutely offensive bias, no doubt. Bummer we'll probably never see it

[@TheWideMurloc]

The banished, and spirit of fire were trapped on the ark as well, but at least one of them found their way back to our galaxy to yeet chief into space, mendicant himself could too

[@smilingchief1149]

I have So many questions after Infinite but one that keep going in my head now that cortana is gone what has happened to the domain could the didactic taken control of it

[@shinmatsunami]

I'm gonna throw this out there that maybe Mendicant Bias wouldn't know about the Endless. I guess it would depend on how soon he was tried and buried.

[@MoonKnightH8]

Did anyone else realise on halo infinite harbinger boss fight, the weapon says “wait, something’s helping me” surely that is offensive bias

[@SHYUUMESANBROA9]

Now the future will be about humanity using the forerunners weapons to win the war against the endless, kind of making using my enemy to kill my enemy kind of thing

[@abdrielsoto2020]

I miss this intro on the new videos

[@breathofdifferentair1950]

Maybe contender class ai have a lifespan like cortanas 7 years, but each ai gives them exponentially more time

[@technicalluck1352]

In the interest of story symmetry 343 might try to bring back Cortana, but there is a better way. Mendicant Bias should die in a final act of atonement against the Endless. In this way the stories of the AI's will finally be parallel.

[@ajackass5950]

343 was like " crap we have no ideas, what do we do? I got it, reskin old bungie lore and throw it in the campaign! Genius!"

[@MintBlitz]

I am first

[@HiddenXperia]

flash1: scroll2: GZ

[@MintBlitz]

@@HiddenXperia glow2: wave:2 bank sale

[@TheJoviLovi]

This is some ancient language :o

[@Banana-Boi]

So?

[@joshuahernandez8862]

Lol

[@Cybron2099]

Now while mendicant bias may be on the ark and far away from zeta halo, might i point out that so were the banished. And with the banished's obsession with forerunner tech there's a good chance they might have found mendicant. And possibly even brought him along

[@ShadySliver17]

Cortana chose to stay behind otherwise Chief wouldn’t and shouldn’t have left her on High Charity

[@lightningchegg4823]

Cool, splitgate lore when?

[@TheJoviLovi]

No splitgate

[@lightningchegg4823]

@@TheJoviLovi sadge

[@thed3adp1x3l9]

Did we ever find out if mendicant bias brought the spirit of fire to the ark or is that still a mystery.

[@Jubileus216]

I just hope that when both brothers show up, they don't have one or the other do a classical 'he sacrificed himself to save the rest' kind of thing. That would be too cliché. I see 343 trying to do that with Mendicant Bias more than with Offensive Bias, having him say something like: "This is how I repay for my sins, with my life!" or "This is how I finish redeeming myself to my creators!" which I hope they reconsider and realize how much that idea has been used too many times in the entertainment industry, and how it's too damm cheesy. Just let both of them battle the enemy and survive, badly damaged or something, but survive for the entirety of the franchise's existence. No need to kill them off or destroy them off at all during the remainder of the entirety of the franchise whatsoever. These guys are too awesome to just have them be destroyed.

[@struansexoticreptiles17]

Amazing how 2 years later still no campaign dlc and 343 is over here saying they don't know what kind of content to put into the game and are at a standstill. The reason I'm assuming they don't make this campaign dlc is money, I don't think they actually care much about there fans. They've morphed infinite into an almost strictly multiplayer platform. I remember when infinite came out they were saying this would be the halo for the next 10 years... what happened to that?

[@jcnathanielbaile4814]

For me when yoy said "look at the similarities" the first thing i saw is mendicant bias 2 circle is at the top and offensive bias is at the bottom. While for cortana and the weapon, the weapon had a UNSC uniform as for cortana she seemed N@ked (please dont judge me for saying n@ked to cortana....)

[@Ho_Lee_Fook]

The infinite campaign was just a massive prelude to what is coming up, I hope 343 can pull it off

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

i think we all noticed that

[@feetenthusiast1015]

would love to see these two introduced in the campaign, maybe theyre too big for a dlc and can be in the next halo game??

[@nelsonfinn63]

Just a high🤙🏼 theory, What if the grave mind predicted cortana’s path, knew what she’d become. Destroying anything that would pose a threat with the guardians, and the gravemind waiting patently to spread out and attack, yeah i know its on the ark but whats not to say there isnt any flood ships floating dormant waiting for strong civilisations the be weakened by cortana Or maybe i just really want the flood to return😂

[@darkspark5854]

I still think the way 343 completely betrayed Cortana in Halo Infinite was terrible. Rather than continuing her character ark they decided to get a younger and kind of dumber version of her which for some reason, so many fans eight up like it was perfect. Also it kind of goofs things up for Chief as the whole reason they probably did this to begin with is because people didn’t like Halo 5 and now they think they can’t ever risk replacing him. Yet they had to replace Cortana because she would be the only reason he would ever stop being the master chief. And at his point I doubt they plan on killing Chief off so all 343 needs to do is make sure his and the weapon’s relationship never gets complicated. Which I hope it doesn’t, because that would be so wrong on so many levels. And it would make killing of Cortana seem pointless sense they probably killed her of because of their “feelings” to begin with. I guess the writers got cold feet on the romance ark “witch they are responsible for!” because they were afraid of losing their main character to a happy ending. Personally, after all Chief and Cortana have been through, I think they deserve a happy ending. After Cortana doses a few years of community service for blowing up the brut home world through.

[@handsomekeyes5419]

Lore

[@Rew123]

Cool vid but let's not take attention away from the lack of content in Infinite, current state of the game, lack of road map, lack of communication, lack of firings in this incompetent studio. Not to mention the greatest tragedy in the history of gaming, which is sprint in a "Halo" game. Also, I think it would be very meaningful and encouraging to the community if 343i would announce which workers were responsible for Infinite being a failure and are being let go as a result. I mean, give us something to celebrate.

[@thaneros]

Bruh the game is not even 4 months old. Yall got to chill out.

[@TheJoviLovi]

Luk isn't really that type of guy, plus he made a video on the state of the game lol. This is a lore video

[@HiddenXperia]

the game is in a rough spot :/

[@plantgang3631]

I love this game and I really am annoyed by the lack of content but you don’t need to bring it up in every conversation. And your idea of telling us who was responsible is the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard. It would result in thousands of death threats and awful messages being sent to that person.

[@Maywoodmassive]

Mendicant bias is Craig. Dude it’s not hard to see!!!

[@mrmadskillz1240]

Lol

[@bofasofa9399]

Why did you put 100'000 instead of 100,000 lmfaooo hello?

[@Bagel_weblenton]

Why did you write 100,000 like 100’000

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

I was always confused on both the origins of Mendicant bias and Offensive bias and how they came to be, thanks for clearing it all up

[@ProGremlinPlayer]

how are you everywhere bro?

[@GODALMYGHTY]

Man, if only offensive bias had hidden terminals on the ring... That would have fixed a lot of my issues with the campaign.

[@CapnShades]

That's kind of the point of this video; with the Endless about to breach containment, OB is probably primed to make a triumphant return.

[@FAL_]

I see lot of potential for future infinite DLC. I just want snowy biomes lol

[@TheJoviLovi]

Hopefully if 343 don't put so much greed into this game

[@HiddenXperia]

and deserts... and jungles... same ;_;

[@shaheer1172]

Shame beca the next level we were going to be playing was going to be a desert level

[@GR33TINGSEARTHL1NGS]

@@HiddenXperia Anything that isn't more grass and metal

[@DanReed98]

I really want a foggy swamp biome with the flood, like 343 Guilty Spark from Halo CE

[@Ho_Lee_Fook]

The infinite campaign was just a massive prelude to what is coming up, I hope 343 can pull it off

[@dotheevolution100]

Then what the hell was 4 and 5?

[@Ho_Lee_Fook]

@@dotheevolution100 a mess of different storylines

[@undercovertakodachi4301]

​@@Ho_Lee_Fook true, 4 and 5 are the worst.

[@OGdoorstop]

Sike. Campaign cancelled.

[@Ho_Lee_Fook]

@@OGdoorstop was it tho?

[@OfficialBilboShaggins]

I also think when you activate the second spire and the weapon says “something scanned me” - that something could be offensive bias, which would link in nicely with how something helps the Weapon in the final boss fight with the harbinger

[@Miguel-jq6ol]

Man as sad as I am about the flip with Cortana, I'm glad they've at least taken it in a more interesting direction. Something I always loved about how the Halo 3 terminals presented Mendicant's turn is how it hinges on the view the the Forerunners presiding over the galaxy is creating stagnation and I'm really hoping we get those themes resurfacing maybe with how 343 handles the Endless. It would cool to see these AI that have outlived their creators reflect back on their actions and crimes kinda how we got Despondent Pyre ruminating on it in the Ring terminals. (also rip Despondent Pyre she was killed off too soon)

[@whitetiger5104]

Hopefully Adjutant resolution can feature more in campaign dlcs

[@mult1versal]

question, if there was a backup monitor for zeta halo then why wasn’t there for installation 08 after it got rebuilt in the ark

[@jflamen]

@@mult1versal zeta Halo is one of the original Halos and like every one has said before, this Halo is different than all others, because it imprisons the endless

[@debbiebernhardt5406]

@@mult1versal 343 guilty spark happened to be sent directly to the ark after installation 04 destruction. He was following procedure to have a safe functioning weapon to stop the flood without losing it again due to loss of resources.

[@chandleralves698]

My big worry is the Endless. 343 went out of their way to suggest that the Endless are a formidable foe and that they are somehow worse than the Flood. I'm intrigued by this, but I really hope that whatever the Endless are live up to what 343 is selling.

[@notalive5479]

I'm just hoping that the Endless are a red herring. A species that has "control over time" and is somehow worse then the Flood is going to be pushing into some Marathon Infinity style convoluted nonsense. It would work better for them to actually be largely innocent, I think.

[@greatguylocalguy]

I'll support you no matter what content you decide to make but I love your halo content more than anyone else's and it would leave a hole in my heart if you stopped.

[@56o56o56o]

Could you imagine one helping master chief and the other helping the arbiter :O

[@BioTroy]

The parallels between these two pairs are super cool. I always thought Cortana's return in Halo 5 was super unnecessary but seeing the Mendicant/Offensive similarities sorta saved it for me lol Super excited to see where the story heads to next, beginning with revealing Weapon's chosen name!

[@gavinoko9710]

Do we know if Roland is still alive? I mean the infinity as of right now was trashed and in multiple pieces if not completely destroyed. Wouldn’t Roland have gone down with it?

[@shaheer1172]

What if the activation of offensive bias is tied to the freeing of endless. That the forerunners tied it so if someone frees endless offensive is activated and helps to stop them.

[@brandonstevenlesher1964]

History repeats itself lol love halo lore

[@_Phen_]

The *ICONIC* one is back!

[@marranin007]

Mendicant bias can be present in the form of the spirit of fire. The spirit of fire is very much still in the ark, what if mendicant reopens the portal to the ark and sends it to zeta halo?

[@cptsean2026]

But how would he know where Zeta Halo is? It's not at it's original location anymore

[@marranin007]

@@cptsean2026 idk, maybe he can track it down or something

[@JHR987654321]

And vice versa. Boom, there’s our desert biome dlc

[@jovo7631]

This also opens up another parallel between two other important characters from both eras: The Master Chief and the Didact. Two very prominent figures in their own military who would do anything to protect their people, "no matter the cost". Now obviously there are some lengths that chief may not go to, like enslaving an entire species, but he is willing to sacrifice anything, if he cannot find another way. The Didact did not see any other way to combat the flood, hence why he created the Prometheans. He used his resources to create a solution, a morally compromised solution but a solution nonetheless. Chief does the same when he is about to delete the weapon, in the face of the threat of another corrupted AI. Maybe a stretch but there are similarities between these two stubborn protectors

[@JayPlusForerunner]

Anything mendicant bias related, we will welcome with open arms

[@Danielviomusic]

This would be amazing in the hands of the right people. 343i are not the right people though. They mess everything up.

[@Xokzu]

I want the same sort of thing with Cortana: for her to still be out there interacting with Chief in subtle ways he’s aware of, at least.

[@SuperGoose42]

Really really really hoping the flood make a comeback to test humanity one last time, except this time around humanity finds the final solution for the flood, like a cure or something, and defeats them for good, thus granting humanity the Mantle of Responsibility

[@lebronjames1472]

That sounds hella lame how would humanity find a cure to the flood with their current technology. The forerunners existed millions of years and never came close. Why the flood be cured aswell it isn’t a simple infection it’s evolution.

[@SuperGoose42]

@@lebronjames1472 I don't know the answers to your questions, I'm just saying it would be interesting to find a "final solution" to the flood (because obviously the halo rings don't kill 100% of the flood), and for humanity to be properly tested by the "precursors" for the Mantle of Responsibility. Technically speaking, no one has officially held the Mantle since the Precursors were killed off. The forerunners claimed to have it, but they failed their test and took it by force If you think it's a stupid idea, take it up with HiddenXperia, because it was his idea, not mine. Go back to his videos theorizing about infinite's story before it was released, you'll find it in one of those

[@stardogsmasher6217]

This whole parallel makes a lot of sense and is pretty cool, given how they both are created from the same people with the same objectives in mind. That being said, with Cortana being dead for good and Weapon (whatever name she decided to go with, I decided to temporarily given a nickname TW), both Offensive and Mendicant Bias both now have similar goals to stop the threat. Hell, could you imagine both Offensive and Mendicant Bias joining forces and making such a huge threat to the Banished, the Flood, and the Endless? Perhaps even fighting alongside each other in battle physically? It would give this sense of Yin and Yang, Fire and Ice, Day and Night type scenario. But looking at the concept art of Master Chief looking at possibly Offensive Bias kinda gives me some concerns if it'll fight the Chief like Adjutant Resolution until it realize the error of it's ways.

[@vast7120]

HALO INFINITE LORE VIDEOS HAVE RETURNED!!!

[@TheJoviLovi]

I really enjoyed The Weapons story in infinite and thought it was well made. Teared me up when she was arguing with Chief... But no matter 3 was the best iteration of Cortana in my eyes. Looking forward to dlc Edit: Hey what happened to MB Luk? Just curious

[@HiddenXperia]

Mendicant was supposedly buried somewhere on the Ark, we don't know where but the running theory is the tower that Epitaph/Citadel are set in is like a headstone for his burial site in that infinite desert

[@TheJoviLovi]

@@HiddenXperia so he was banished or for better words... Put to sleep I suppose

[@DanReed98]

JUICY CONTENT

[@JoeMama-qu8xu]

I just finished my legendary ending yesterday, so I am pretty confused about the ending..

[@thaneros]

Atriox is still alive and he is releasing the Endless. The voices that were talking during the scene were Forerunners in the past releasing Offensive Bias.

[@patton3rd1]

I've been looking forward to this

[@gufo10games.74]

im almost certain that the "something" that was helping the weapon in the harbinger battle was offensive bias, it lines up too good

[@nomus1172]

I mean with all the forge leaks on KZbin it looks like 343 is almost done making all the biomes for halo infinite so I just wait .

[@Tar-Numendil]

So does The Weapon have the same 7 year lifespan that Cortana was supposed to have?

[@Kanerudo]

Well, Mendicant's old heart still is on Zeta Halo and was visited a few months (or a year) before Infinite

[@cheemgames]

Oh man do we love some lore and theories. It gets me all giddy and excited. Great video btw!

[@jakeriese4862]

How did menicant help John escape the Ring, did he delay the self destruct

[@doseofdion9667]

Okay. Great video. Never even put that together despite Mendicant and Offensive are my favorites

[@michealmurphy8985]

Hope they give us something decent soon I got sick of playing it after a week just boring with nothing to do in it and the onlines a joke I'm back playing the MCC now

[@TheJoviLovi]

Campaign topic only '-'

[@HiddenXperia]

feel ya bro, infinite is dull asf rn lmao. Interest seems to be at an all time low

[@michealmurphy8985]

@@HiddenXperia yeah pity because we were waiting so long and after a few hours I was like wait is that it 😂 they messed up big with the online multiplayer and no co opp multiplayer was always the best part of halo games

[@jordiebean2444]

I wonder if it’s possible for mendicant bias to come to zeta halo with the spirit of fire crew

[@bravoromeo8132]

I feel it’s going to be a proxy war. If you have two friend AI’s and they are enemies. It’s going to make a problem. But I don’t know enough about the lore so I may be wrong

[@jancevaughn8539]

those who don't learn from history repeat ur is a pretty good saying for this

[@dibbledap4942]

Another parallel can be drawn to bungies old game, Marathon. Durandal, Tycho, and Leela reflect this entire story too.

[@revolverocelot1380]

Oh yeah. Theres many elements in marathon that are clearly influencing halo.

[@jaredmc7982]

"History doesn't repeat as much as it rhymes"

[@PreparationH67]

"But Mendicant is on the Ark" We also last saw Spirit of Fire on the Ark coincidence_i_think_not.jpeg

[@PreparationH67]

Im as simple man who just wants Red Team to orbital drop into action during a main series Halo game.

[@MasterHall117]

History often repeats itself.. even in the real world

[@majjegaming5927]

Love the lore videos keep it up

[@jackyogurl5735]

Why was cortana on the ring anyway?

[@rapidcarnage7524]

My question....how the heck did Atriox get past Oppressive in the first place?!

[@TechWizard28]

What about confirmation bias?

[@investdough]

I would but I'm not "Bias"

[@earth1364]

Imagine if Mendicant Bias and Offensive Bias reacted to this parallel between Cortana and Weapon.

[@ladslounge2698]

Now that Halo: Epitaph had come out, we can confirm that Cortana was under the effect of the Logic Plague, as was The Ur-Didact.

[@KevinKoolx]

Lore so epic its crazy to think it's possible!