The Path from Blue to Black Belt (Master Cycle)

[@2Point]

There are a lot of people discussing cost. Most BJJ schools charge $125-$175/month. Jiu Jitsu is not something you can train once a month and benefit from; and you're not going to train hard for 2 years and reach black belt. It is a way of life and a transition in your thinking. The dues only seem high until you get immersed and your life begins changing. Your confidence and sense of security grow, your body can't help but get much healthier (BJJ will push your cardio), your perspective and social behaviors change. I've trained almost 3 years now and I'm happy to pay my dues to help keep the school open. At some point as a man, you have do take a stand and give yourself something. Life is always a race. A race to make money, help at home, answering to 10 different people. To anyone hesitating, I would say go for it. Connect with your inner warrior. Your body and mind want to fight. You'll never regret it.

[@brianegan3]

Jeremy Zuther That's crazy, man I love America but I could not afford to train there, mine cost €5 per lesson. €65 a month for unlimited MMA, BJJ, wrestling , boxing and muay thai classes a month. There's 2 2hr BJJ classes a day. our trainer was the European BJJ Champ and is a professional fighter. It's not fair that they can justify that price. I would not be able to train if that was the rate over here! I live in Ireland.

[@fgsf9]

Jeremy Zuther .....i here what u mean but just saying its expensive as hell a investment ....im legit saving ao i can train cuz 150 -200 for a coach is expensive im a blue belt so i have a bit of training been training ground game for 4-5 years mainly no gi ......point is though its still expensive when u got bills to pay , when u gota make sure to eat for the month and on top of any and all responsibilities. ....be honored and feel bless not everyone can afford to train

[@gustavsalomonsson8404]

Jeremy Zuther uum

[@MagickArmory]

Jeremy Zuther here's the thing about cost I agree it's worth it but most of the schools at least in my area charge about $220-$300 a month I believe I saw 1 in the 120 Range as well but here's what I thought was the ridiculous thing these schools that charge that much and it's only allows you to go twice a week and that's in the evening. I'm sorry but if any dojo charges that much they should be open 7 days a week and have both am and pm classes and every person should have unlimited access .

[@PedalTheGlobe]

I cant believe people would even complain about that price. $175/month is not much in today's world. If an adult thinks that is a lot of money they are probably not working hard in other areas of their life. They likely lack the perseverance to make it 8-10 years to get a black belt. They also dont value or respect their coaches time to think they should work for chump change after dedicating their life to becoming an expert in something.

[@victormothamo]

Learning Bjj is probably the best decisions I made in my life, it's fun, it's making me fit and most of all it's humbling,

[@spratmajor2576]

You would have received the same experience training any MA (Martial Art)

[@bora6915]

No, he wouldn't.

[@2Point]

Not even close. BJJ is in a world by itself.

[@guy0784]

Humility is the best lesson anyone can ever learn in any martial art.

[@BjornHansen314]

Jiu jitsu is the only effective martial art

[@Dbunkr55]

Curriculum is so important. Need to learn in a linear, structured way. This is the way to do it.

[@jiujitsu94]

At the age of 46, I switched to the Gracie system. The problem with the other bjj schools I went to is that I kept getting injured. Torn ACL, dislocated shoulder, hernia operation, etc. The list went on and on. Gracie jiu jitsu is a lot safer, and you generally don't get injured unless you do something stupid.

[@bongothom]

That's a really good point. It makes no sense to injure yourself in a gym while training to defend yourself so you don't get injured in a fight.

[@johnthebeloved6598]

This is brilliant. Structure gives people something to focus on, and measure progression against. It is a massive impact on making sure people do not become demoralised.

[@pmartialartsx]

Amazing how he is such a phenomenal sales person and an even better Jiujitsu Master! He could kickass in Wall Street or any ass down the street if he wants. Kudos whichever Gracie you are 👍

[@BobBelson]

Very glad they started doing the striking with the grappling again.. That was the way the OG learned it

[@mikebenit3388]

It is always a pleasure to see martial artist revising, and reinventing how to make their art better. Much love and respect.

[@DUARTE99]

I love, love, love what you guys are doing with GJJ. Now this is the Jiu-Jitsu I fell in love with back in the early ‘90’s. I just wished I lived closer to the Academy/University!

[@a.harkes1724]

Took my first class this week. Looking forward to picking up the Gi and white belt tomorrow at my second class. 33 years old with a medical device on my lower abdomen (protected mostly by a padded belt) and limited mobility due to 15 operations, but I can hang.

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

Yes you most certainly can. I am a blind purple belt and one of our black belts has no legs. You’ve got this.

[@complexblackness]

I believe it's because BJJ is the most expensive MA out there. $160 for 2x a week, $180, $200+ those are the average prices I've seen.

[@1kmens]

idk if the situation has changed since 4 years ago, but i pay 30 euros for 3x a week class in eastern Europe

[@1kmens]

its 30 euros a month for 3 classes a week so 30 euros for 12 classes

[@fearedhorizon808]

Lol I'm lucky I gotta few friends and a brother who do jiu jitsu so I look up techniques online and then just roll with them at a normal 24 hour gym I go to that's only $25 a month

[@Soulful_Oatmilk]

i think it definitely depends on the school. My academy charges 800 for 6 months, or 1400-1500 for a year, comes out to about 30$ a week, but what you get is gi, no gi, mma and muay thai, as well as beginner classes and wrestling/judo once or twice a week. plus now we got strength equipment!

[@haza123b4]

*"Stay ready so you don't have to get ready" - Rener Gracie*

[@delvesdg]

+Keyboard Warrior That quote is actually accredited to Will Smith.

[@TheFrozenOne777]

know your role

[@haza123b4]

+MURRxOEx951 *Shut your mouth jabroni*

[@tovarischkarno4390]

+McGregor Account Police Aaaaahhh dammmnnn that knockout to Aldo though, sad, I wanted to see Jose retire with only one loss!

[@mikec8735]

That quote is actually from Kenny florian

[@complexblackness]

I will say the Gracie Academy is very structured and I like how they have the cards and schedule with all the techniques mapped out.

[@professornotoAmbition]

I really love this way of training and teaching. For those who say they're not training due to money my suggestion is to speak to your professor & see what you can do if money is truly an issue. In most cases making an adjustment to our habits outside the dojo will free up whatever finances are needed to train. It's not a gym, jiujitsu creates healthy habits that will help us not only become a black belt in the martial arts but a black belt in life.

[@KaninTuzi]

Truth to be told. BJJ is rife with injury. Literally everyone gets injured several times a year, and being in the sport for just a few months I already have gotten to know several people with permanent irreparable damage to their bodies, like eye damage, neck damage, knee damage, nerve damage, you name it. I have a sense that this is a huge contributing factor as to why people quit BJJ.

[@Razear]

4:51 He just quoted the GOAT Bruce Lee. lol

[@fulca4389]

I tell you why white belts quit... because they get hurt all the time by the bullies in the gym.. there are so many people with insecurity issues. I'm happy to be in a great gym. However, there's always that one guy who thinks is fun to hurt others. I didn't quit, but I was lucky I didn't get hurt badly!

[@rickywoods3101]

In my experience white belts don't usually quit from injuries because they are rarely injured because our school makes new people roll with higher belts . They usually quit because they are not committed, too lazy or there ego can't handle loosing

[@nkyryry]

Problem is every black belt instructor with a gym thinks he should be a millionaire.

[@1sunstyle]

I like BJJ for the escapes and reversing the situation to get into a better position. I don't call them submissions I call them controlling techniques. I've never trained but I'm familiar with many of the techniques. Thank you guys and the gals for sharing this style with us!

[@kaibe5241]

Rolling in BJJ is one of my favourite parts of the art. When paired with a great opponent who respects you and is willing to learn rather than win, it's probably the most fun of any martial art I've ever done. I always laugh when my opponent does something really clever, or I'm like "wow!" as I constantly impressed by the beasts on the mat. I seek to encourage that behaviour as it means I learn so much more, and we all have fun! And isn't that the goal?

[@tfranc347]

I love this and it makes me scared to go anywhere else besides Gracie Academy... I'm looking into schools in my area now and I live close to the Minnesota Martial Arts Academy, but I'm worried it's one of those kill or be killed type of environments. If I lived in LA, there would be no question where I would go...

[@tomcaseybjj]

One of my life goals is to train and have a roll with Rener Gracie.

[@dmoney5384]

You say that but it's like drowning. He has an answer to everything you do. He's nice and will let you advance position and win to teach you, but it's very very very very humbling

[@mrbjj1016]

Made it out to LA to train this past summer. Trained with Ryron. Nicest Gym I've been to. Class was good. Rickson's class was a very unique experience too.

[@Vahvafitness]

+tom casey That's a good goal tom

[@DarthStacker]

+tom casey I went to 2 seminars with Rener. He was kind of stand offish and didn't roll with anyone. Ryron was a different story. I had one seminar with him and he was great. He rolled with me for a few minutes. It was an eye opener and something I'll never forget. Great guy.

[@mtbrocks2002]

+gurumark10 I know that for quite some time Rener was nursing a shoulder injury. That may be why he wasn't rolling. I went to Gracie Immersion Camp in 2014 and he was rolling with his arm tucked in his belt. It was a fun roll, even tho I managed to lightly tear a meniscus during that roll (not his fault, just gravity and age.)

[@deanfucknambrose1280]

"We're not here to take part we're here to take over" -Rener Gracie

[@1995a1995z]

lol

[@nickk707]

DEAN fuckn' AMBROSE that’s why they don’t compete.

[@TheBoss2288]

I do judo right now through a college club and Ive always wanted to do jiu jitsu but DAMN classes are so damn expensive everywhere

[@stoicpoetrywisdom]

wait did i see machida?

[@blackoutthreatsupression7154]

I've only been to 2 classes and I really enjoy it

[@ninjamaster7724]

Seems like a great school and very well structured. My bjj gym has an 18 week fundamentals program that is also very well planned out and a great gym also.

[@chessjitsu4419]

Thank you Professor Rener.

[@blakemcmahan3960]

I started Gracie bjj three weeks ago and it’s one of the best decisions I’ve made. I enjoy it more than any other sport I’ve played. I’m 21. I started late but I’m training 5 days a week. It’s so awesome. I’ve boxed for 9 years but this is a whole different animal, my confidence has went even higher.

[@gensunasumus101]

Are you in the Master Cycle?

[@blakemcmahan3960]

@@gensunasumus101 finishing up combatives

[@gensunasumus101]

@@blakemcmahan3960, I'm curious how many lessons are covered weekly in the Master Cycle?

[@blakemcmahan3960]

@@gensunasumus101 at least three

[@phuckfumassters]

lol at you started late at '21'. That's the best age to start as an 'adult' if you didn't start as a kid. I started at 28.

[@WestCoastIrk]

this #1 reason, is probably the expense of the classes... people can barely get by these days. I am one of those people. I went the Gracie academy in Torrence for 2 weeks free, which was awesome. There was no way I could afford paying for those classes, even though it's a 1-2 hour drive from where I live, if it was cheaper I would go everyday. I wish they could incorporate a program where a certain percentage of their students are low income and qualify depending on their actual income, providing tax returns and a few months worth of pay checks. I know from first hand some of the best, hardest working people are stuck in the gutter. I am not trying to complain or ask for a handout... just offering my thoughts and opinions. God bless!

[@zainabe9503]

+WestCoastIrk Gracie Garage + Gracie University! That's your answer. Thousands of people are doing that, without having to pay the S100+ fee per month.

[@victormothamo]

+WestCoastIrk Find a bjj gym close to where you live it dosen't have to be gracie jiujitsu.

[@glitchdigger]

Ask to clean mats, go to fields, find some students over there to teach you. If you show hunger desire to learn I guarantee people will want to show you jiu jitsu, and make you feel welcome. Everyone needs friends and everyone respects hard work. Would you rather have a lazy friend or a hard working friend? Not saying you're lazy, but try to be creative in the ways you can contribute to communities in general beyond money and you will find that we can circumvent the slavemasters' system of poverty.

[@Mulberry2000]

that the problem its over charging they are getting the money before the hype is over and people find out the hype was a load of crap. When Bjj prices drop then you know the bubble has bust. For god's sake do not believe in the hype it will get you killed. If you still think i am wrong go out in the centre of town where all the bars and clubs are and pick a fight see what happens then.

[@nextlevelbjj3083]

Get a job and stop buying alcohol and drugs and you should be able to afford it

[@dillanversai6717]

I have trained at a few martial arts schools that had no set schedule or curriculum.. and it drove me nuts...the instructors literally would just do whatever...I am at a jitsu school now with a structured cycle like this, and it is sooo much better..u know what u r coming for.. it's also much easier to retain the information.

[@levicathcart2899]

In every gym i've ever trained its always with people that are great sparring partners that have your well being in mind however its always physical. You cant just roll off the couch and expect to do well. And that's why 90% of people quit before getting a blue belt and 99% quit before getting a black. I think the message of "its all good and light and easy" is a bit misleading.

[@bdevastation3609]

I wish there was a certified training center close to me :-/ You can tell in these videos Rener and Ryron are very passionate about jiu jitsu!!

[@antjmi]

90% dont make it to Blue belt??? Wow! I am one of the 10% :O)

[@ApolloLeRoux]

shiiit im the .1% lol

[@cugnaoozen9956]

I am one of the 10% too

[@mikedepaz666]

Hoping to enroll in Gracie University.. Practiced Taekwondo and Kickboxing for several years but i watched how effective this art is!!

[@billydavis150]

The reason why the most effective combat system in the world has the highest drop out rate is because its real. A lot of people still want fantasy fighting systems or want to become effective at something quick. Jiu-jitsu takes a long time to get good at and takes a lot of dedication. Life gets on the way for most people. People who become higher level belts have demonstrated a substantial commitment to jiu-jitsu. Often times they've sacrificed other aspects of their life. Black belts have basically made jiu-jitsu their life, or at least a cornerstone of their life. Then you have injuries that snuff people out, which is a whole other issue.

[@SnakeMan227]

Unfortunately you can't find any BJJ schools where I am, and if you do they are likely way too expensive.

[@bdjuggalo]

i hate to say it but i had that problem i would buy pedro sauer dvd and get a buddy to work with you.

[@ashigaramii__]

Bruv, I got the lick. got hooked up with classes for 127 a month at team Redzovic in chicago

[@FIDEATV]

How much does it cost in your country?

[@MrGrunt-dw7lg]

Look around for any judo or wrestling classes, although they aren't the same as jiu-jitsu it's close enough if you really do want to start grappling.

[@SnakeMan227]

All we have here is ATA Tae Kwon Do. The McDojo of them all.

[@sjsmith821]

I like how you guys have a actual plan now that's awesome!!

[@teamw1ndy916]

I do jiu jitsu its like 5 min away from my house and it costs 90 dollars for a month with every week being able to go 3 times i think thats good

[@zeke1eod]

Some of us don't have a true Gracie school available and by yourself you can not do a online garage training, come to Knoxville TN open a school with prices set for TN not L.A. California then watch the number of students climb

[@CamachoBJJ]

Loving the Promo videos.

[@tookurjaerbs]

Read that as "porno" videos at first. lol

[@SergioArroyoSailing]

Fantastic guys! It sounds perfect for the more mature martial artist ! Keep up the great work!

[@MarioUcomics]

Does Renzo Gracie also follow this curriculum? I think he is the only Gracie in the NYC area but I love Rener's ego free approach. he breaks it down so well and has a down to earth personality that makes me feel welcomed

[@mtbrocks2002]

+Mario U (emokid64) As I understand it, Renzo does not follow this curriculum. However, his own blue belt (and beyond) requirements won't be that far off. Rener and Ryron have lots of haters, but most people agree on certain techniques for beginners vs. advanced. For example, trap and roll and the Americana arm lock would be on most (if not all) blue belt requirements. Berimbolo and Reverse De La Worm Guard (that's not a joke) would likely NOT be on that early stage requirements. You should also check out Marcelo Garcia. He's often called "the nicest man in Jiu Jitsu." His academy is in NYC.

[@MarioUcomics]

thanks Man!

[@robertsutton3001]

I have not trained in 8 yrs but now the universe has blessed me with circumstances that will help me get back soon. I have my 10 yr old daughter in it. And watching her I realized that my soul needs it also in striking as well. I'll never forgive myself if I ever get my ass kicked by a regular person lol

[@Severen45]

I like how they all wear their belts even in no gi.... it's a fun way to still understand everyone's skill level.

[@foxyisbae7013]

Starting jiu jitsu this tuesday currently i do muay thai, boxing, and wrestling

[@naughty_fication9105]

Seems like you have lots of money and free time, sir

[@spratmajor2576]

If you're doing all of those at once you cannot be very good. It's like trying to learn Korean, Japanese, German and Hindi all at once. You're also training conflicting styles. The Muay Thai stance is more square where as boxing you are more sideways. Footwork is completely different. Hands are held differently as well not to mention a boxer does not have to worry about being kicked in his legs much less a knee to the ribs or an elbow to the face. Good luck with that

[@xepherno]

Doing boxing and muaythai at the same time? That's stupid

[@MrHungloww]

Rogue Gaming That's not stupid it's Called MMA you dumbass

[@nickboomer94]

I've train TKD (8 years), Boxing (1 year), Sanshou (2 years), MMA (2 years), and BJJ (now). Currently, I'm training BJJ and Kick boxing at once . I'm also a full time Engineer college student. And I still manage to have time to follow my passion. This is normal.

[@Xilotl]

I do JKD and we have belts for the second hour (which is BJJ only). I'm going for my blue belt on the 25th. I have competed (holy crap was training hard) and I'm going to again in a few months.

[@waldomarek]

i wonder how many instructors you got on the mat for 50 students? from personal experience, one instructor teaching 8-10 students is a good number, anything more than that and you're starting to miss things as an instructor (like students missing details or simply performing the technique in a wrong fashion).

[@waldomarek]

Evirthewarrior to be honest, how does one instructor manage to teach 20-30 students? i really have my doubts.

[@victormothamo]

+waldomarek I think he has multiple insturctors in the academy, a few blacks and purple belts, who help him, plus his brother also instructs.

[@DylanT18]

I love jiu jitsu! But my old Gracie gym was charging far too much! I started at a rate of 80$ a month and by the end before I moved gym 1 year and a half later it was at 125$ a month. This forced me to move to a different gym, a non Gracie affiliate...

[@vtrmcs]

Said it before and I'll say it again. Rener and Ryron, whether you agree with their business ethics or not, have more charisma and more social appeal than almost any other BJJ expert you could name. I dont know about you, but if I see a video by either of them, I'm entirely hooked. I haven't trained with their academy because I dont think it would work for me, I need constant live training, but theres very little you could take from their approach in terms of breaking BJJ down and building a curriculum. Their achievements are pretty amazing when you consider the background, the fragmented nature of martial arts and other factors. Theres also no arguing with their ability as they are both world class black belts, despite not always conforming to the IBJJF mindset.

[@seanknot]

1. injuries, illness. 2. you make people pay so much for training. Since I left & really spent time wrestling it's made my bjj twice what it was tbh

[@realchristianmusicchannele9532]

It's expensive but it is worth it and i cant wait till i can go back.

[@dougieladd]

I"m 52 this March and I'm starting BJJ on saturday this week... with no fitness level at all (I'm not a sportsman)... I'm still looking forward to it.... although get back to me Sunday, I probably won't be able to walk :)

[@DikiBolz]

Stick with it for at least 6 months! For me, that was the time I needed to start understanding what the hell is happening and what do I need to do next :D

[@ser9656]

dougieladd so, how did it go. This 54 year old is curious to try.

[@td344509]

Jiu Jitsu has saved my life

[@Robinson.69]

how?

[@DikiBolz]

Krav maga saved my life in street fight, but BJJ is much more mentally stimulating

[@nkyryry]

Most cliche overused comment about BJJ

[@healingleafwave6963]

Did he get in your truck. And you killed em

[@Schultz82]

I love your phenomenal video. I studied and practiced taekwondo hapkido and some yudo for several years love it. I also made my own store around my passion

[@swiatlowiekuiste]

I like a bit of ego in it, it makes things interesting

[@NakMuayify]

I think a lot of people are satisfied with the knowledge they have as a blue belt (which I would argue is equivalent to black in other arts)

[@bobbryant3698]

Knowledge not practiced regularly is lost. We have blues that come back after 2 years. The white belts tap them. Train! (Grandpa Purple Belt) :)

[@bane3991]

A blue belt can destroy the average person. But if you're not coming to at least maintain what you have, you'll go back down the ladder. But so many people quit as soon as they receive that blue belt.

[@attkdriver]

I think a lot of it is the instant gratification mindset in the West. If you tell someone it will take you 1-2 years as a white belt then 2+ years as a blue belt it won’t give them the fast dopamine hit they are looking. I find that people who start because they truly love the art and learning are the ones who stay. The belt chasers always quit. Outside of that sometimes life happens. People move, priorities change etc.

[@estebanjr11]

Many schools now have a green belt for adults so they don't feel discouraged from white to blue. It's so stupid that adults need that little "promotion" so they don't quit. I'm a blue and the way I see it is I'm too far into it to not get purple but once I get purple I'll be like I'm to far into it not to get the brown and the same thing for black. But when I'm a black belt it'll be apart me so I'll never stop lol and I don't want to ever stop bjj has changed my life many say it's so expensive but so is any hobby in life I don't eat out as much and also budget around my gym fees

[@TelowVaughnMusic]

Belts are pointless imo, just keep training and you will get better. Like anything in life.

[@Mulberry2000]

sienna three i do not agree, people need a reason to see they are progressing, and with out it then well they get discourage. i do not need belts to to see if i am good. I could not careless if i am good or bad. I just turn up and like to train, so i plod on, do the training and that is that. just because i d not need the green or next belt, i will not say its stupid if people want some acknowledgement of progression. After all they are paying a lot of money, if you do not like the green belt and then dump the belting system altogether. This means no white to black belt, just train for the hell of it. People will say how do i know if i am good enough, easy when you beat all the experience players, that is how. Note; belts are for how good you are at the moment and status. "Look i am a blue belt in BJJ" , they do not hand them out like toffee so i must be good, then you stop training or trying come back and get hammered by white belts.

[@Gruesa82]

Do all Gracie associated schools use this "street fight sparring" /week or only the Torrance HQ?

[@luisval510]

People complain about the prices but spend a ridiculous amount of money and time on things that are not important or useful. For me BJJ is an investment on my self. I started a year and a half ago and I just got promoted to Blue Belt and the grind won’t stop. People, please stop complaining about the prices and start using your time and money wisely. Stop buying shit online, stop buying food everyday, stop buying clothes you’re never going to wear. Be smart ladies and gentlemen.

[@thousandlocks3258]

Love it! Keep up the good work.

[@teach9906]

Almost got my blue belt. Purple belt reaped my knee and tore my acl. Really demoralizes the whole experience.

[@kdavid123186]

If it was fellow white belt who did that then, I can see it as accident. But purple ? Bruh that’s fucked up.

[@1sunstyle]

It's important to practice skilled vs. skilled! I like the Gracie Way. I'm sure there are other good schools that achieve the goal.

[@mandomercs7]

It’s cost vs reward. My dojo is 150 a month and I can train 8-9 times a week. That’s good value. Also do you put s value on your life. This could literally change your life and save your life. There is no price you can put on that

[@qwertyuiop2895]

That's the point (or one of the most important points about doing martial art/sport). Can't compare it to the gym (bodybuilding) and conclude that this is "too expensive". No it's not.

[@GaveMeGrace1]

That’s cool and inspiring, thank you.

[@NoBody-tz4fb]

Its also really over priced, most gyms charge outrageous prices to stay in class (175ish a month). I stopped at blue belt and became a you tube guru.

[@mikem1825]

Cost. Jiu jitsu is great but the cost can be very expensive. It’s not just the 150-200 a month cost. But it’s multiple gi’s, some places have belt testing fee, ibjjf or JJGF dues and tournament fees. Not to mention. Gas money too.

[@wald01979]

BJJ expensive? blue+ at our school are successful in their careers. Cause or effect?

[@qwertyuiop2895]

Exactly. The prices are OK, all around the world. BJJ is not a regular gym (weight lifting/bodybuilding)!

[@robertsutton3001]

What kind of mats are those they look like they're easy to keep clean and sterile.

[@Doc.boatsman.23]

Please bring this to Las Vegas!

[@ChloeDunIT]

Love these videos.

[@matthewmauldon9219]

This is incredible!

[@irsh2786]

Great, thanks for your work

[@bendixonsghost7621]

is gracies ju jitsu coming to Canada toronto ive been anxious about learning for years curious any plans?

[@mikeehrmantraut6061]

+jai Mc cook but now you can also buy a belt online you don't have to train!

[@scottyronaldo]

+Mike Ehrmantraut you can buy it online, but it's not cheap. It's going to cost you 200 + hours of mat time.

[@mikeehrmantraut6061]

scottyronaldo YOU EARN THE BELT ! YOU NEVER BUY IT! REMEMBER IT TO THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

[@sashachip]

Toronto NEEDS a Gracie certified training centre! I cant believe no one has done it yet. This city is packed with BJJ gyms and most of them suck. The teaching structure is terrible. In fact, there is no structure. You walk in and the instructor just picks out of the air what is to be trained today. No other life skill is taught in such a haphazard method. If I lived in Southern California id train at Rener and Ryron's gym no questions asked regardless of cost. All other schools are going about it incorrectly and that is why people drop out. Im living proof of it. I am a teacher by trade and so I understand the importance of proper curriculum. Only Rener and Ryron got it right.

[@sashachip]

@Ferdinand Feiler but not in Toronto- even though its the 5th largest city in all of Canada, US and Mexico. There is a market here. Ive been waiting for years. Ive dropped out of every BJJ club in the city- they all suck. The unstructured, lack of curriculum is not the way to teach.

[@BruceHarms]

Would love to do that course...

[@brucecharlie8613]

Is the master cycle curricular available on DVD, I live in Devon in the UK I goto a GYM in Paignton, BJJ is taught on a random basis in most places and means the tuition is unstructured which is frustrating for me - as an engineer I like to see structure and specifics in any system... it will comparatively take me years to become a blackbelt in BJJ on a random tuition basis.

[@juandenz2008]

Sadly I think you have to subscribe to their website to get the master cycle curriculum. I agree that most BJJ schools still follow a format of warmup, a few random moves and then roll like you are in the ADCC submission championships.

[@JablesMullet]

@4:02 What happened to that? I'm in MC and can only see BBS1, but am being trained all of BBS1-4. Please open them all for everyone in MC!

[@conconcool]

Why do these students wear their belts when doing nogi???

[@MichaelHayesagent]

For me it came down to injury. I came out of BJJ every night with a really stiff neck. It sucked, other than that I would have continued my training.

[@qwertyuiop2895]

So do some neck exercises to strengthen it (muscles around). This is pretty common problem at the beginning. Don't quit.

[@Zanarkendjp]

I trained bjj for 3 months quit at white belt 3 stripes. I was so happy to get my 3rd stripe because I could train 2 hours a day at the gym. I was happy to pay the 159.00 a month on a 10.25/hr job. I lost my job and had to stay paying my tuition. This coming year I’m going to start training from white belt no stripes again. My son has started 2 weeks ago.

[@MyZ001]

My coach just talked about this recently. He says keep the stripes; you earned them! Even if you're rusty, it'll come back and you're far ahead of a no stripe.

[@onyxredux3463]

I don't believe bjj is the most effective martial art nor do I believe any martial art is the most effective it's the practitioner not the art

[@ChamorruWarrior]

Wrong. Horseback archery is literally a more effective martial art than BJJ.

[@MylesKillis]

ChamorruWarrior not if you miss. Cause I definitely can cover 30 yards faster than you can string another arrow after you missed me cause I was moving lateral

[@TelowVaughnMusic]

ChamorruWarrior so youre just gonna bring your horse and bow and arrow with you everywhere you go? Lol trotting into walmart looking like a fucking apache

[@seanbailey317]

I feel like Bjj has such a poor retention because a lot of people want instant gratification culture, people want everything now. And becoming any belt in Bjj is a long haul. Not demeaning other martial arts that don’t require as long to get a belt, they totally deserve whatever belt they are, but I feel like Bjj you can be a white or blue belt and if your good you can roll with most people and not get tapped.

[@alexegus71]

I wish you were in Texas my son couldn't finish due to a jerk fake BJJ teacher he love you guys but has given up on it.

[@KSham-hr7yg]

"Dey don't tink how I tink, dey don't talk how I talk" -Rener gracie

[@hamadalrowaie6882]

Are you going to release a black belt dvd set like the gracie combatives dvd set ? 😊

[@cdbig9er]

Are the percentage of drop-outs in general (male AND female) or based just on the male students?

[@qwertyuiop2895]

There is not many females doing any martial arts. They don't count. So males mostly of course. For females dropout rate is even higher (plus lack of consistency, they train more "on and off" randomly). Concept of earning something by hard work for multiple years is biologically foreign to females, their life strategy is different ("red pill" knowledge, go figure). So they don't bother with activities like that.

[@mjjohn7715]

I'm in 👍

[@Law9652]

When you say someone is a black belt, it makes sense that the person is the best one in the room at submitting people.

[@John-qz2sy]

I wish my gym was more like this. I love my guys but theres no “curriculum” per say. We dont really know what’s expected to the next step of advancing. Frustrating but im still improving. Thanks for the video.

[@phuckfumassters]

Besides GU and maybe like minded schools on Rickson side majority of schools have no curriculum. It's completely sloppy and unorganized and you prove your getting better by beating others during rolling sessions and you advanced based on your professors 'feelings' of belt level. I trained at two schools and it was like this.

[@John-qz2sy]

@@phuckfumassters that’s exactly it. We have a ton of white belts that are amazing. Some not so. Ive been a 3 stripe white belt for a year. Been at this gym for 2 years in October. I know I have surpassed my skills from a year ago. It’s annoying.

[@MyZ001]

@@phuckfumassters Yea, I have 2 blackbelt friends to teach at different schools and it's exactly like this. They train that day whatever the hell they want to work on/share/etc., and they were promoted based on the coach's feeling on their performance and observed improvements. I have always had an uneasy feeling about belt promotion based on your ability to beat another person. Dahell kind of base line is that. That's good for rankings, but I don't see how that earns/hinders a belt.

[@phuckfumassters]

@@MyZ001 that's why I have new found respect for Rener and Ryron and their GU methodology of learning. They have a curriculum and its listed out in black and white what you must know at your belt level before you can move up to the next belt(but also don't be obsessed by belt color). In order to test for purple you need to know 200+ techniques at 4 stripe blue belt. Every student has a 'score card' that list each skill they must know and trained in class 4 times before they can test. This is true accountability. If your weak in an area they will make you train the hell out of it. By purple belt when you count Gracie Combatives (1st stage) that's 72 total techniques and blue belt master cycle 4 stripe (2nd stage) that's 200+ techniques...you have learned, trained and know a total of *272* *Techniques* before getting your purple belt. Most typical BJJ schools don't have a curriculum and doesn't do it this way. They based there promotions on their 'feelings' about a student based on their bias. It could be 'length of time' at gym for one student, another could be based on athleticism, another is based on being a tournament competitor, another based on helping out at the gym, another based on being big and strong, another based on being a gym bully, etc. There is no standard which is part of the problem.

[@Peter-wl3tm]

People who say its not good for self defense are speaking from a sport perspective. Yes sports jiu jitsu and old school jiu jitsu have two different approach. Of course no one wants to go to the ground but having the skill set to avoid the ground or quickly get off the ground and the ability to break a limb or do a blood choke is important to have if you are on the ground. doing mauy thai or boxing doesnt mean you will have a better chance either, because those same friends that can kick u in the head on the ground are the same friend that can jump you from different angles standing up take you down and kick you in the head still so to say its ineffective is quite dumb especially when jiu jitsu practitioners practice to get off the ground and escape. Throwing a punch can lead to a broken hand and if your hand is broke you definitely will not knock anyone out. so train as many arts as possible so you can be as prepared as possible and even than that may not work still but at least having some training in any art gives you a fighting chance. By the way I’m willing to bet that jiu jitsu practitioners who comes through Gracie Combatives following up with master cycles will do well and hold there own at a sports jiu jitsu tournament, however, Jiu-Jitsu practitioners who train jiu jitsu as a sport would probably have a hard time applying his or her game to the streets #gjj #judo #striking

[@CNCTEMATIC]

Rener has an 8-stripe black belt in CASHING IN (which he got from the Gracie Academy online Master Marketing Course, available right now for 30% off ... GUYS!)

[@CNCTEMATIC]

Hey fuckwit. Seems you didn't notice I didn't question the legitimacy of Renner's BJJ belt >

[@cosmokramer7396]

CNCTEMATIC lmao..

[@shelbynickey7319]

Ernest Changatrio rounds Rousey wins were all BJJ.... smfh nick and Nate Diaz,

[@shelbynickey7319]

Ernest Changatrio she uses judo/jiujitsu (arm bars...) and even Brock Lesnar started training jiujitsu cause its effective... being a black belt in Jiujitsu will give you an advantage over any other martial art

[@shelbynickey7319]

Ernest Changatrio BJJ aid jiujitsu omfg

[@tommytaylor2799]

My issue was trying to find a teacher. One was a fraud and he only learned from videos in the 90's. I eventually moved on to submission wrestling. My challenge was not that I wanted to quit but i had to deal with challenges of finding a legit teacher, which I unfortunately never found in BJJ. I also met one teacher who seemed legit but he only had his school for three months. He never even gave me a warning that his school was closing down. I even tried to find him and never did. I want to advocate for serious students who cannot find a legit teacher and I wish a video could be made about this since not all students are bad sometimes it is the teacher who is the problem.

[@notorious283]

Erm Stay Ready so you don't have to get ready? What Rener did you hear that from King Conor.

[@mtlblues4710]

It's expensive, that's why.

[@leandropereira7349]

here in brazil i train for 50R$ per month, i think is like 15, 18$ in your country. 5 times at the week, 2 hour per class...

[@leandropereira7349]

too expensive, really..

[@roberthowell3651]

yes to exp

[@leandropereira7349]

Come to live in brazil them :)

[@tfromthasix1956]

mtl blues I'm paying $115 CAD a month which is $85-90 USD. Definitely worth it considering the self defense, discipline, health, social and mental benefits gained by BJJ

[@martialartstrainer8592]

No that's the problem for most martial arts schools as the cost of owning a business has gone up it has them now charging outrageous prices for classes sometimes for only 2 lessons a month at $150 a month its no longer for the low income people just trying to get by its for the high middle class.

[@nicolisowski3591]

Amazing content! I'd really like to start BJJ in an academy like this. I already trained for a few weeks and after tearing my ACL I'm finally able to get going again. My problem is: How do you train BJJ if there are no proper academies around? I really don't want to roll under a blue belt who doesn't care about the students' health at all! But what's the alternative if you admire BJJ and can't stop thinking about rolling?

[@KillerInstinct2006]

That was a cool guard pass at 4:49

[@TheMasoud100]

Dear Gracie people I appreciate all of what you do but, I don't see any champions coming out of the Gracie schools, T city might make it but how long till you have a bunch of champions like militigde fighting system or Greg Jackson, the courses make people give up, that's why no one reaches black belt not to mention the high fees, I can count Gracie student champions on1 hand. Other than that it's all good. and I enjoy the break down videos thanks. ... Peace.

[@AT-xp1pj]

I am currently doing Judo but I really like BJJ aswell since it is able to boost your skills in Judo groundwork. But the BJJ schools around my area are very expensive compared to my Judo school which is only 30€ a month for 5 2-hour classes a week. We also get a free gym membership so I think it's one of the best deals that I've been able to find. Only problem is that we don't really focus on actual self defence, but rather we focus on learning new techniques so we can get our belts quicker and lots of randori aswell.

[@iamabean]

Glitched_Name which belt in Judo are you holding? I suggest you should stick with your judo. Judo has both ground work and take down so it is a plus point. Secondly if you want to change to BJJ only because of self defense purpose it does not make any sense. I say so bcos I think Judo is more effective than BJJ in a street fight situation. Every fight should start standing up so you need to find a way to take your opponents down first before you can apply submission or choke. For this purpose, i think judo is more than sufficient. In a street if you can execute a good judo throw your opponents may lie unconcious on the ground and there is no need for any ground work.

[@AT-xp1pj]

Im currently an Orange belt but I am only a few months away from Green belt

[@iamabean]

Glitched_Name Just curious how long does it take for you to get promoted to a new belt. In Singapore it is abt 3 months per belt. Price is abt 30 Sing Dollar per month. Regarding your question, I will say that BJJ will be useless if you can not take your opponent down. I assume you watch the UFC. In UFC, fighters who are judoka or wrestlers can take up BJJ very quickly and use it effectively in the octagons. Example are Anderson Sylva , Ronda Rousey(who are judoka) , Daniel Comier , John Jone ,Chris Weildman ... But it is diffcult for fighters who know BJJ only to take up wrestling /judo in a short period. I would suggest you get your black belt in Judo first and see how.If you see that your ground game in Judo is enough then that is it. If you want to try BJJ go for a no gi class so you dont have to concern abt the belt system. Hope it helps

[@AT-xp1pj]

I think the time between promotions varies a lot from school to school. In my case, usually 6-7 months per full belt (3-4 months for half belts) is usually the time between promotions and we don't have mass exams, it's our choice if we want to advance quickly or slowly. When we want to focus on getting the belts we discuss it with our instructor and practise on the techniques. and when we are ready, we have our exams. Also, skill and the ability to pick up new techniques is a major factor, I got my Orange belt in just 5 months after I got the Yellow since I picked up all of the techniques quickly. A friend of mine and also my Uke, has been doing Judo for more time than I have but he is still at yellow belt just because he doesnt want to rush the belts and instead wants to spend more time at the gym and spend more time improving his skills in randori. As for your suggestion I will consider that. I have a friend who does BJJ and he has shown me lots of groundwork chokes and armlocks, which we will learn at our judo school but in later belts.

[@infoguy1978]

UltraHyperSuperTarifas - how is judo on your back? i hear they throw the hell out of you. doesnt sound sustainable.