The Path to Mars: Boeing Leading Charge in Deep Space Mission

[@GetOutsideYourself]

The complexity of such a mission is staggering. The risks of an Earth launch, 7 months in space, entry into Martian atmosphere and a soft landing, risks on the planet, risks in the launch from Mars and docking with the habitat and space tug, another 7 month journey back to Earth, then another atmospheric entry. I'm thankful we have men and women willing to take these risks for science and exploration.

[@SCIFIguy64]

Well, first people who go there get referenced throughout all of time, more so than Columbus and Marco polo. I'd sign up for that if I knew I would go to Mars with a 30% chance of dying. Hell, it could be 99.9, but that .1% would be worth it.

[@Z3kyTw0]

very well said. I agree ..

[@CrookerG]

Joseph Stassup The risk is worth it, something that has never been done before in the history of humanity. I wish countries would have a space race and not pointless wars. Who knows maybe we are re-entering the age of the space race again?

[@RPShredow]

If you go to mars you probably ain't coming back.

[@Kneedragon1962]

This is very true, but remember, in the '60s, NASA went looking for people of the right type to go to the moon, and they found quite a few who were enthusiastic about making the trip in one direction, so their name would be in the book...

[@imPrgrmr]

Unfortunately I have heard this " Today's children will be the first explorers" once again when I was a child. I wish this time the dream comes true.

[@terran5364]

"...To boldly go where no one has gone before..." - Every Star Fleet Enterprise Captain Apparently

[@ignaciogonzalez8716]

Amazing, just amazing. Can't wait to finally see humans set foot on mars. I've been waiting forever and have often dreamt the day would the come.

[@keysontrains538]

ME! I PLAY KSP ALL DAY ALL NIGHT WOO!!!!!!

[@jamiegodman715]

It's going to be a SpaceX astronaut that first steps foot on Mars. Not Boeing, not NASA or SLS but SpaceX!

[@isaacopyrchal9875]

Mark my words but I will be one of the first humans to step foot on mars boeing and everyone else who is reading this and doubting me I will be on mars in the mid 2030's

[@hassanhenry5358]

Go for it! But come back alive.

[@icedragon23472]

Good luck dude i hope i can be one of the astronauts too

[@jalanjolawd3893]

100 years or more? Is this really Boeing's official channel? I can't even imagine their senior engineers are that conservative. It is doable in at least 10-20 years with the right amount of resources. Obviously that's a whole 'nother can of worms but not insurmountable.

[@dunkninddonuts]

in the meantime spacex is winning this race and carrying up to 100 tons of cargo

[@SawdEndymon]

NEW CHALLENGE FOR US KSP PLAYERS!!! Make the tug in game!!!!

[@---capybara---]

Post that on reddit and I guarantee that someone will do it.

[@jeremycastro8223]

Space x wants to go to mars as early as 2018

[@Sciencegames21]

Amazing. I can't believe I am going to be on the forefront of this. This is the best time to be alive!

[@Minecraftmania213]

Im between 10-20, study science and math and do a whole lot of other things that are space related, so I might be on mars!

[@nicoparrado7766]

Good luck on mars.

[@Thiel5]

They need to use Nuclear Thermal Propulsion, then it only takes 3 to 4 months to get to Mars.

[@destinyofficial2150]

+Eric Thiel but we need fuel.........

[@orionspacecraft1979]

I hope you people know that SpaceX is an aerospace manufacturing company, while NASA is a space agency/manufacturer. People seem to get these two mixed up frequently.

[@thegr8rambino]

its not fair! our human lifespans are so small compared to the time it takes to see all the cool new advancements in spaceflight that will take place in the next few hundred years :(

[@ericjohnson7234]

+thegr8rambino No it's not fair, however you want to see it, join the program, more man power, more brain power, more technological advances. It's like a game dice, if you don't toss you don't win

[@thegr8rambino]

Eric Johnson i wanna be frozen when i die and wake up in like a few hundred years to see all the space advancements lol

[@kaasbroodje2490]

hey man, I understand how you feel but atleast your going see the first very footstep on Mars. people honderds years later can't say that. you can atleast say that you were there watch during that big step of human mankind. your going to something special that poeple in the future are going to be jellis off. :) (sorry for my bad english)

[@thegr8rambino]

bart gort thanks for the comforting words!

[@jennypenny4212]

we're leaving earth and heading to a new world

[@pheonix7777-x9o]

I am 12 and l am up for the mission. I have always loved space and l feel that this is the best thing for me.please please please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@pimpmytafel]

The future is looking bright!

[@hoshikun013]

One question: Aside from finding valuable data about mars and knowing that 'yes, we humans can do it,' what justifications can be made for spending billions of dollars for this project. I support deep space exploration and i find it intriguing and fascinating but I just can't think of a reason for humans to spend valuable resources yet until other internal matters such as world hunger and war can be resolved. (I emphasize yet because I understand its 'a natural evolution of humanity' but isnt 2030 a little rushed? Sending life to mars seems a little too ambitious with the current technology of the 21st century given that one minor setback could affect the entire mission. The Apollo missions, Space shuttle and the recent Philae lander all suffered some setbacks all of which could somewhat be avoided had humanity waited for another 50 or so years. I understand that to make progress, it requires learning from mistakes but given that many missions did not go exactly to plan, shouldn't we wait until we have perfected the technology to enable humans to go to mars with optimal success rate? Would the Apollo missions be less riskier had they been launched now as opposed to the 1970s when the spacecraft had less computing power than the average smart phone? In the end, I just don't understand the rush to go to mars at 2030. Sure, I'd love to see mankind land on mars during my lifetime, but would it not be more beneficial to wait for another 50 years or more? Humanity would (at least to some extent) eradicate its internal issues such conflicts and world hunger whilst technology would be vastly superior therefore making the mission more reliable.

[@andrewmcilveen4917]

When he says 5 or 6 SLS launches to get to Mars, doe she mean it will take 5 or 6 launches to set up the mission, or 5 or 6 missions in the 2020's before we start the Mars mission?

[@spencerrr9878]

+Andrew Mcilveen 5 or 6 launches, NASA and Boeing have a whole plan set, look up #missiontomars on google images

[@DavidRdavidminecraft]

+Andrew Mcilvern We need 5-6 launches to build the mission vehicles and everything, did you see the size of that tug? Two of the launches will be for crew HAB and ascent/descent vehicles and the rest will be to construct the tug which looks to be the size of the ISS.

[@andrewmcilveen4917]

David R. Yeah, that is what I thought.

[@noahmunson9505]

They mean they will land on near earth asteroids, the moon, mars's moons, and then to Mars, this is all so that orine has field experience

[@augustus6285]

+Andrew Mcilveen Both.

[@emerycollins1958]

Interesting. How what is the projected speed on the spacecraft engines and fastest time of arrival?

[@hollisbradshaw1554]

Absolutely fantastic.

[@johnroach1]

The gravity will be great and should pay for the desire to . If the VASIMR is it will only take 39 days

[@hassanhenry5358]

Man just imagine it, colonies on Mars...What can we find? What can we do? I think its possible, but it will take a lot of time and a lot of planning. Hopefully we can pull it off!

[@AakashKalaria]

Yeah we (certain generations) might have missed lunar landing but landing on mars is far more awesome!

[@SCIFIguy64]

And the next generation will witness probably the first interstellar lift off, on a 40 some year trip away from us.

[@markowasowskii181]

I hope I'll be old enough to witness the interstellar

[@cj5880]

idk about that

[@AakashKalaria]

+Marko Espenilla you will get old and die, you and next few generations might not see human interstellar flight. Infact if they are lucky they will see unmanned mission...

[@ViperEye]

I sure hope to witness this someday. It will change human society in quite a radical way. This would prove that the entire solar system is open to us... Where it will lead from there... Well, watch "Wanderers" by Erik Wernquist, and you'll get a good impression.

[@sigmacentauri6191]

Lets go! With another billion people on their way to earth soon I'm sure there will be lots of volunteers... and we're going to need another planet.

[@davidkuo8480]

i hope i live long enough to see this happen!!!!

[@the_disabled_gamer2832]

Just out of curiosity what does one of these SLS systems cost to build ?

[@eddie-jq5sz]

If we are trieng to live in space We will evolve to live on other planets Just give it time. A very long time!! Que viva la Evolution✨

[@GiovannieHernandez]

The Path to Mars: Boeing Leading Charge in Deep Space Mission

[@matthewsoon101]

Amazing several thousand people would sign up for a one-way trip to Mars

[@wynecrawford9826]

When i was a kid i always read books on colonizing Mars soon it will be a reality!!

[@themistoclesleonidas]

Exciting times ahead!

[@charlesdaliere6502]

Such exploration should be with robotics. It could take centuries to develop a truly safe environment for humans on this barren planet.

[@geneisenhower6674]

Actually we have many theorys on how to build an atmosphere on mars. Or you could build a bio dome kinda like they talk about in here. We can also somehow melt the icecaps and create oceans

[@wforty94]

more like, The Path to Mars: Lockheed Martin Space Systems Company Leading Charge in Deep Space Mission

[@debfowler8043]

Already spending time money and effort to leave a planet we have no intention of saving. Says a lot about humans.

[@CliventheTraveller]

Deb Fowler Technically, it is a necessary step in ensuring species survival. Sooner or later, a large object will hit Earth. Present human tech is nowhere near capable of stopping cataclysmic-sized asteroids from hitting, so species survival would be greatly increased by having sustainable, and sizable populations elsewhere, just in case.That said, yes, humans, at least in the West, have a bad track record on planetary care (Eastern and Amerind cultures actually had a pretty darned good one, in the past). OtOH, the ability to move factories offworld might go a long way towards avoiding pollution in the future, at least if we can arrange some sort of low-pollutant launch system.

[@mrsrussell910]

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[@jamiegodman715]

It's going to be the exploration of our solar system that does save our planet. Where would u prefer we mine on earth or an asteroid? Being a multiplanet species will save humanity and it's continued growth.

[@pintkacular]

CliventheTraveller smarty pants

[@feliccieandorro408]

Deb Fowler I dont agree with you, really not ... but i understand your point ........

[@brandz1117]

I'm 17 and I want to go

[@mifyyyy]

Very interesting, one question, couldn't NASA use vasimir as fuel? It could speed up the travel time and extend the time for research on mars, while waiting for that travel window to open, scientists say that using vasimir it would take the voyage only about 2 months.

[@runningray]

VASIMIR is not a fuel, its an electromagnetic engine. Some of the problems for a Mars mission is that in order to get there quick, it will need a lot more power than it has now (nuclear power), and such an engine still has to be developed and this kind of thing is expensive. The state of the technology is getting better and probably at some point in the future this nuclear powered engine will be real. But for now, its not suitable for a human mission to Mars. Chemical engines will be much faster and are current technology, so nothing new needs to be created.

[@Pharisaeus]

VASMIR is an engine, and for certain it won't make the trip shorter. Of course they claim it could, but assuming they have a magic power source that does not exist (VASMIR people claim that they "don't care, since power system is not their field") ;] And just for the record: with that kind of power source you could use just a normal Ion Thrusters with the same effect. And if VASMIR was to be used with the power sources we actually have (that are large and heavy), the trip would take even more time, since the thrust would be very very small. The actual propulsion that could make the mission to mars more feasible would be Nuclear Thermal Rocket.

[@erickeet1309]

Why did I get this add that was made 1 year ago..

[@NellyNelson7pod7]

Outstanding!

[@Gorilder]

Btw love the Bigelow habitat

[@guardianobserver6593]

And why we must go to Mars? All these minds, technology and money could have made earth and moon a paradise!!!

[@majorkong2552]

Why not explore this strange universe? Why not look for other life? Think about the tintillions of galaxies,stars,and planets that could all hold life! Us humans try to think we are very advanced, but what if we are cavemen compared to other galactic civilizations, my point is that we humans have the urge to explore and find new things, wouldn't you like to know if there is other intelligent life?

[@guardianobserver6593]

The Gamers Spawn Maybe because we are cavemen better spend all these trilions in better forms of energy for this planet, better conditions of life for all the human beings in all the countries, better explore and understand the forms of life this planet allready has and leave other more advanced civilizations to find us if they want.

[@charlesbrightman4237]

How about a mini space station that incorporates artificial gravity?

[@TheBillo733]

I thank You Boing

[@Gorilder]

Some proving ground missions could (should) include building a base on the moon.

[@lamotomanjerry638]

Interstellar begins .... @.@

[@jennesavargas3666]

B h oil c3hange

[@garrettsalter8338]

I would so go if asked to live on Mars

[@arthurhamilton5222]

I like Bigelow's habitats. But, still NASA could launch a BA-2100 to Mars orbit or a BA-2100 surface habitat. I'm sure there are better propulsion concepts in the works than chemical propulsion. Just takes $$$$$$.

[@AlexCole272]

I wanna go to Mars

[@ModelBuilders]

I'd love to be the that person. Dylan Payne age 11 Advanced classes, GT Highest school mathematics and science classes It's been my dream. I am very healthy. I play a game called KSP and I've gone everywhere, done everything. I wanna go so bad. Dylan

[@jackdets7450]

Model Builders I play KSP too, and I'm turning 11 soon! :D

[@sin7wu]

This is awesome

[@RCcrAzY1234]

I admire Boeing, but screw this. Spacex will be at Mars waiting to greet the NASA astronauts.

[@SCIFIguy64]

Basically, we are literally building metal Galleons to go to a literal New world? Please make the commander a guy named Chris.

[@augustus6285]

+Joseph Stassup No. Columbus was a stupid genocidal man. He does not deserve any honors.

[@SCIFIguy64]

Augustus Pretty sure he didn't want to kill anyone en mass.

[@augustus6285]

Joseph Stassup Yeah he did...

[@StereoSpace]

7-8 months to Mars. That should strike everyone who contemplates that as completely unacceptable. When need to do much, much better with our propulsion technology. Even 7-8 weeks seems far too long. Our target should be 7-8 days.

[@tylerbryanhead]

do you understand the distances? 7-8 months is pretty good considering

[@StereoSpace]

Yes, I understand the distance. My point stands though, if we have to put multiple people in a small room (or two) for 7-8 months just to get to the next planet out, our propulsion technology is seriously lacking. Maybe this is an opportunity to build bigger ships, assembled in orbit, that carry much more fuel. Ships that can be reused. Maybe with modular fuel tanks that can be stacked together as needed depending on the amount required for a particular mission.

[@augustus6285]

+StereoSpace We already have multiple people in small rooms for 6-8 months at a time on the ISS... 7-8 months is fast, trust me.

[@matthewseligman5470]

+StereoSpace It takes 7 days to do a round trip moon mission. Going to mars, which is exponentially farther away, in that time span is impossible with current technology. The best we can do is 7-8 months. People have been staying in space for up to 6 months on the ISS. Since they'll have up to a year to recuperate on Mars, they'll be ready to go for the return trip. Mind you, this is all with the best propulsion technology we have. We could pack on more fuel, but then we face the case of diminishing returns: the more fuel, the longer it takes to accelerate, so it would probably take longer. We could use chemical rockets, but they're horrendously inefficient for a mission of this scale. The reason this all takes so long is because we use the highly efficient kick-and-coast method: activate your engines, build up the correct amount of speed, shut off your engines and coast. Repeat to slow down. So, using an NTR, chemical rocket, or electric engine, it would all take the same amount of time 7-8 months. Engines really have nothing to do it.

[@SashaNaronin]

+Matthew Seligman Better engines simply allow for less fuel used for same change in velocity. And power of engines has nothing to do with it as well, since it doesn't matter if we burn them for 3 of 15 minutes to escape or establish orbit. All that matters is the specific impulse, or how fast the propellant is ejected. Faster = less propellant consumed per second for same thrust. And yes, if we pack more fuel we could get there faster, by accelerating to larger speed on a shorter trajectory. But it's expensive, plus those extra tanks are a dead weight for return trip, and dumping them when empty may not be that easy. For example, 6 km/s total change of velocity performed at all points gives transit time of around 200 days while 8 km/s will allow you to spend only 150 days. 8km/s is a lot, mind you, it's almost as much as needed to reach LEO from surface, and will require almost as much fuel under condition that ehgines have simiar efficiency (exhaust velocity). *We are not talking about constant thrust aka electric propulsion here.

[@TheLevelGaming]

The Dutch are gonna be first with MarsOne

[@Gorilder]

idk, Space X might get there first. But hey may the best Country/organization win whatever territory they want haha

[@spencerrr9878]

+Potatonator no one country can claim a planet or moon so if they beat the US oh well we just pick a new landing site and continue on with our lives

[@destinyofficial2150]

+Potatonator SpaceX for life

[@augustus6285]

+Potatonator Nope. It's a scam.

[@tonyerspamer8742]

What about the Mars 1 mission? Isnt that supposed to be a planned colonization mission for the 2020s-2030s?

[@SargeRho]

+Tony Erspamer I highly doubt Mars One is going anywhere.

[@Spacecat1969]

Finally!

[@NathanTestimony2024]

SpaxeX will beat NASA to Mars. Why? Because budget cuts will hold NASA back while Elon Musk is willing to risk EVERY thing to allow himself to go there while he is still young enough to do so.

[@ronettreker]

Nathan Jones How about we take competition and replace it with colaboration. A lot of grand space missions have been done through colaboration. From Cassini-Huygens to ISS.

[@NathanTestimony2024]

Competition will always win over that because man's nature is to do better than the rival so we'd get better results that way.

[@ronettreker]

Ash Jones No space agency alone has the budget nor experience to run a mission to Mars. Why do you think the Constellation program was cancelled? Not even NASA is capable of doing such a thing. Projects like Mars One are the only way humanity can reach other planets or even planetary systems. Just look at how complex and big the ISS is compared to Skylab and MIR. Colaboration is better than competition.

[@orionspacecraft1979]

I do agree, but somewhat disagree. I too believe that collaboration is essential for exploring other celestial bodies, but space agencies competing against each other will result in more advances in the aerospace field.

[@Waldo_found_you]

+Orion Spacecraft will it really? The Mission to the Moon was very risky and there was a bigger possibility that those men would die. It would be better when all those Space Agency's with there own knowledge and experience work together. It would result in a efficient Project, because of separate Work fields and after all a bigger step for humanity! :)

[@KevinGomez-mf9cv]

hey i want to go dodnt care ajout the payment.

[@tnvoss89]

We are all simply shadows and dust.

[@emilyburlbaw6654]

tomorrow I have to put my best friend phoebe down shes been with me my whole life. 12/3/14.

[@supermexican9072]

i am 11 maby me i love space and math

[@michaelcohen1310]

we came from mars lol

[@johnprentas6024]

BRAGIL RIO DE JANEIRO

[@Moonsabie]

why does 220 people not like math in action?

[@tstthomason]

Well we've colonized Duna, Mars shan't be much harder. Right?

[@Lundmunchkins2000TV]

Well, we need moar boosters.

[@mattmichael2441]

5$ SpaceX beats them (Boeing & Nasa) to mars by at least 5 years.

[@garyosborn1787]

Music on

[@fortneraaron99]

The best thing to say I have no clue how 5Addy

[@rosarionavarro9247]

zona para MILITAR

Orion = a remake of Apollo mission.

[@Lundmunchkins2000TV]

On a bigger scale.

¡Ah que bueno! :D

[@TheArabsolga]

Sending them back here??? Such a bad idea... Last time we did that, we did it a few more times and never went back... We need to establish a permanent base from the get go... It has to be an international effort. But these are just my hopes and dreams. After all, why spend money on space colonization when you could spend 900 billion on defense? *ahem* USA *ahem*

[@samlover1250]

Why we are going to MARS? What about saving plant EARTH from Coment or Asteroid and capture asteroid for travel into space.

[@mazharulislam7393]

hi

[@boy123838]

space x is going to do it.

[@bluehuckelberry3394]

is it just me or does any one else think they took a page out of spaceX(ElonMusk) hand book there craft even look like the dragon

[@markowasowskii181]

Ahem... 2020-2025 are the departing dates AHEM.... Sorry, My throat didn't feel good

[@pheonix7777-x9o]

I went to NASA!!!!! ....Kennedy space center!

[@velveetaslingshot]

Go to Mars and do what??? Let space tourism put hotels on the moon and you will see space technology take off like a rocket. (see what i did there?)

[@jamescorvett]

well i wouldnt consider Mars deep space mission. out of our solar system would be deep space. they'll never go to Mars lol

[@LittleDipperBuilder]

I just'll

[@marcbuntin6381]

Financial collap

[@imranpirzada8332]

Leo channel

[@masterdelrap]

mars mission will be a failure

[@pintkacular]

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[@cassidyadams6266]

First

[@IanAtkinson555]

The Path to Mars: Boeing Leading Charge in Deep Space Mission.