The Pemberton Incident - An Unsolved Mystery

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6 ай бұрын

In November of 2019 a group of hikers would stumble upon a disturbing sight in the Canadian back country. It was a burned out car with various items strewn about. After contacting authorities the truck would lead to a missing man Marshal Iwaasa. Where after some time the items found at the scene would also later be linked to a second missing person, Daniel Reoch.
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@piedpiper1172
@piedpiper1172 6 ай бұрын
Mans put more effort into the video than the cops did into investigating two missing persons.
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 6 ай бұрын
Cops don't want to get murdered, injured, or canceled. Any investigation would involve dealing with people who would be involved in criminal activity at the time. You don't want to be the cop that knocks on the front door of an Indian m-lab only to find out how ineffective gun control is.
@daemonthorn5888
@daemonthorn5888 6 ай бұрын
He gets paid a lot more. In all seriousness,though,how do the police explain the missing steering column? Or the trail of burning clothes leading to the river? It's really upsetting to see all these young native Americans falling to drugs and alcohol,and living in poverty. They are only in these terrible circumstances because a foreign invader came in and forced a soulless,heartless,way of life on them. The natives had a fullfilling,beautiful way of life. Sure,they had their issues too,with tribal wars,etc. But their daily way of life was beautiful and sustainable,and balanced as well. There's no need to "advance" ourselves technologically. There are far too many of us now,and we live unhealthy,stressful,shallow lives. We've completely removed ourself from nature. And it's going to destroy us.
@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.
@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. 6 ай бұрын
F12
@sethgrace
@sethgrace 6 ай бұрын
Great comment, homie you put together a hell of a video sir
@scipion34
@scipion34 4 ай бұрын
​@@daemonthorn5888 You could even say... Return to monke
@UponThisAltar
@UponThisAltar 6 ай бұрын
It really cannot be overstated how... weird some of the Canadian backcountry can be. I'm from the B.C Interior and have been a hunter since I was old enough to shoot. In the last 20 years I've found six abandoned vehicles, a buried storage container, two pot grow-ops, and by far the creepiest was finding a pair of boots, an empty backpack, and one used shotgun casing just sitting on a rock halfway up a mountain about 15km from the nearest backroad. All of that isn't counting the dozens of run ins with predatory wildlife. It's beautiful land but it demands you respect it or you may not be going home.
@RokeJulianLockhart.s13ouq
@RokeJulianLockhart.s13ouq 6 ай бұрын
That last sentence is incredibly important. Too many fall foul to mere momentary complacency when traversing such regions.
@fransmarkwell8296
@fransmarkwell8296 6 ай бұрын
Bears don't burn trucks or remove steering columns, I hope
@joshpiotrowski3487
@joshpiotrowski3487 6 ай бұрын
Yea, the more I head back into the woods, the more I want to unpin some of my gear to hold more. Im at the point where bear run ins aren't as scary as they were, it's the unknown and weird shit. Valemount north and west.... weird things abound
@GL_1402
@GL_1402 6 ай бұрын
I'm in inner BC as well, many strange things such as multiple cars buried in the gravil pit on our property.
@skyrothman8651
@skyrothman8651 6 ай бұрын
I'm from rural northern california, it's the same here. Go out into the wilderness anywhere near Garberville or Cazadero and you're pretty much guaranteed to find some absolutely bizarre shit
@RuthlessMojo
@RuthlessMojo 6 ай бұрын
I am an investigator with over 20 years of experience. I think you make some great points in this video. After reviewing the facts in this case I am of the opinion that these young men ran afoul of an organised criminal enterprise. The fact they went missing in a related vicinity and their disappearances occurred so close together it’s fair to say these cases are related. The fact that Marshall dropped out of school could possibly indicate he had some type of turmoil going on in his life at that time. Substance abuse issues are a prime candidate for this. And when you have a serious substance abuse problem you will often turn to illicit means of supporting your habit. For some this will mean robbery and other crimes and for others it will mean selling narcotics to fund your habit. Usually an organised criminal enterprise will recruit dealers to distribute their product. These dealers will store bulk quantities of product so it’s not unusual to have a stash spot. As you mentioned at the end of your video storage units are often used for this purpose. If you are sampling product or trying to skim off the top you can be darned sure that there will be retaliation. Burning out cars is well known in the narcotics trade. It destroys most of your evidence. Daniel obviously had substance abuse issues. His erratic behaviour would be indicative of this. And the fact his hand was broken with a hammer screams retaliation. Sure. He could have hurt his hand some other way but why lie about it? If it was done as some type of retaliatory punishment then it was most likely done due to a drug debt or because of the theft of something belonging to the criminal enterprise. The fact that both of these men went missing at the same time and had indicators of illicit activity could suggest these men ran afoul of this criminal enterprise and were exposed to the most severe form of retaliation. Often remote areas are covered by an enforcer or enforcers who will travel from town to town collecting revenue and delivering new product. They may come through periodically to do this. If an enforcer was in the Pemberton area on the days those men went missing that could account for the time period between both disappearances. The fact that everything was torn out of the truck also suggests that whoever did that and burnt the truck was looking for something. By the way, cars don’t burn out like that from a dropped cigarettes. Clearly an accelerant was used. The intense heat charred absolutely everything. If it was an organised criminal group that was involved it’s unlikely that bodies will be found. These guys are professionals. I’m surprised the police didn’t lock down that site the moment they arrived and had a full forensic investigation done of the crime scene. Yes. It was a crime scene. Who drives out to the middle of nowhere to strew all of their possessions around and then burn the truck you just paid off. Sometimes I have to wonder about the sheer ignorance and laziness of some law enforcement officials. Sadly this didn’t end well. Interesting note, if the police do suspect an organised criminal enterprise was involved in the disappearances and there is a current investigation of that enterprise then police will not announce that until the enterprise investigation has concluded. But that’s just my opinion. Addendum: For those of you who are critical of this analysis let me just reiterate. This is just my personal opinion based on my experiences and knowledge. You will notice throughout that I use the words could and if. I have since put up an additional comment in this thread that addresses the negative criticism in this thread. Also, for those who are interested I am starting up my own channel with my sister who is a mental health professional. I will handle the investigative/forensic side of things and she will be profiling. It will be centred around infamous unsolved cases. Our first case will be Jack the Ripper for which we have linked new evidence not seen before. This was done by searching historical records from the 1880’s and was aided by the use of geographical profiling software. Our channel is www.youtube.com/@tandcunsolved should you wish to subscribe. We expect our first video to be up in a month. Merry Christmas everyone.
@josesiliezar1758
@josesiliezar1758 5 ай бұрын
Best comment by far. Thank you for sharing your insight.
@proudmilitarybrat8984
@proudmilitarybrat8984 5 ай бұрын
Excellent information. Thank you.
@marioncharleston
@marioncharleston 5 ай бұрын
Think its cause they were both acting strangely.think police think they walked off into nowhere.
@johndough7710
@johndough7710 5 ай бұрын
i think the third "shady" guy, was deep in the drug game and was probably a police/government informant...and its possible he's being protected (maybe i watch too many shows lol)
@TomNoles007
@TomNoles007 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting comment, thank you!
@savannar3632
@savannar3632 5 ай бұрын
I lived in Pemberton when they found Marshal’s truck and I know there is so much more to this story than officials are letting on. There is something nefarious going on in that area and it is being ignored or covered up. I always had an uncomfortable feeling living there, I didn’t have that safe “small-town” feeling
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien 5 ай бұрын
It's drugs. That's the likely answer.
@lt7378
@lt7378 4 ай бұрын
Like Moscow Idaho .
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 4 ай бұрын
Drugs are simply natural chemicals we've isolate from plants..... RELIGION is probably what it is....
@truthspeaks623
@truthspeaks623 4 ай бұрын
Pemberton is owned. It has owners.
@wilz3346
@wilz3346 4 ай бұрын
​@@truthspeaks623go on..plz ❤
@anneg.8304
@anneg.8304 6 ай бұрын
The fact that the police were so reluctant to even consider the possibility of a crime is immensely suspicious
@skeetsmcgrew3282
@skeetsmcgrew3282 6 ай бұрын
I would say the fact that anyone could say otherwise is because so many assume the cops are basically on the level. It's just objectively suspicious from every angle. Youd have to be a fool to think any coherent story explains any of it
@tracynorris5012
@tracynorris5012 6 ай бұрын
Just Think,, Aren't the Police everywhere run by Our Governments!!! 😢
@Rytoast99
@Rytoast99 6 ай бұрын
Canadian police have historically mistreated indigenous people. Taking them when they are drunk out of towns and dumping them in fields to die of exposure has been documented on several occasions. If they aren’t responsible for the disappearances, they certainly did nothing because they dont care about them
@HenryFordOfficial
@HenryFordOfficial 6 ай бұрын
not really, canadian police are world-renowned for their low IQ
@jimh6254
@jimh6254 6 ай бұрын
Cops, people in general, are lazy
@makeritualnoise
@makeritualnoise 6 ай бұрын
man you weren't joking about putting time in to learning the 3d stuff. this was absolutely gorgeous, and an interesting (and frustrating) story was made all the more intriguing and engrossing by your visuals. great job!!!
@theRPGmaster
@theRPGmaster 6 ай бұрын
I agree, the atmosphere and quality of the visuals is impressive. I thought for sure this was outsourced to some huge production team.
@noway4435
@noway4435 6 ай бұрын
@@theRPGmasterI was just thinking about how much it would cost someone to outsource this when I saw that comment! Wow
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 6 ай бұрын
I'm so impressed (and inspired!) - I know this is a dark story but I was geeking out about the visuals. They look so good!
@ZeranZeran
@ZeranZeran 6 ай бұрын
@@noway4435 Things like this inspire me to keep creating myself, not outsource. Beautiful work.
@dinogt8477
@dinogt8477 6 ай бұрын
eh
@ItsAmaliaB
@ItsAmaliaB 5 ай бұрын
I would like to mention that according to a post made by the Varsity Outdoor Club, during the renovations of the Brian Waddington Hut, whose roof collapsed due to an excess buildup of snow, Marshal's truck was cut up and removed via helicopter on or before October 15th of this year and is no longer out in the woods. Any evidence of its abandonment has been cleaned up and removed as well, and the trail is back to normal. A little disappointing, since no answers are now able to come of it, as the truck was sent to a scrapyard and is presumably being disposed of entirely.
@BarelySociable
@BarelySociable 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the update I missed this
@scootermom1791
@scootermom1791 3 ай бұрын
Do you think they may have taken the truck parts as evidence for a future case? That's always a possibility, too.
@WowCoolHorse
@WowCoolHorse 3 ай бұрын
@@scootermom1791 if so they almost certainly wouldn't have cut it up. I highly doubt any authorities have held onto the wreck
@harryparsons2750
@harryparsons2750 17 күн бұрын
@@scootermom1791hahaha cops? I don’t think so. They are way too lazy
@scopeyourpeace3975
@scopeyourpeace3975 5 ай бұрын
Wait wait wait… You mean to tell me that Daniel made that bizarre comment to his aunt in the middle of the night after waking her up, then she saw him walking off their deck in the middle of the night. Meanwhile left his phone in his car running in their driveway. Then went completely MIA during the holidays, and his aunt or uncle (or any one of his family members for that matter) didn’t wonder about his well-being for 6 weeks?!?! How in the actual hell could his family not be prime suspect #1?!? That isn’t “normal” behavior for anyone… at any age… anywhere in the world during this day and age!
@UnityAgainstJewishEvil
@UnityAgainstJewishEvil 5 ай бұрын
He’s a meth-head, they do EXTREMELY bizarre things all the time that eventually wear out their families and they become exhausted with the antics. The family probably thought, “thank God he’s gone for a while.” That’s the sad reality.
@angelinazamora1480
@angelinazamora1480 4 ай бұрын
​@@UnityAgainstJewishEvil that's wild cause even when I was in active addiction and being a complete nuisance to my mother, if I went missing for more than like 3 days with no contact or proof I've been on social media my mom would most certainly be searching for me.
@KaoticReach1999
@KaoticReach1999 3 ай бұрын
​​@@UnityAgainstJewishEvil Wow what a compassionate person, maybe that "for awhile" should only be after a few weeks and not 6?? MAYBE you could use that logic for 2-4 weeks, but beyond that reality has nothing to do with it.
@ljavwa3459
@ljavwa3459 3 ай бұрын
​@@KaoticReach1999You have no idea what it's like to deal with a family member who is a dangerous addict. They come and go for months at a time. Sometimes it is a massive relief when they are gone for a long time.
@charnedavey328
@charnedavey328 2 ай бұрын
I thought similar and the fact that his cousins name is Cody Lewis which was found on the cooler... could possibly suggest he was also wrapped up in this? And possibly may be why their family took so long to report Daniel missing? Just a thought
@JaceReboot
@JaceReboot 6 ай бұрын
Canadian here, can confirm our police agencies coast to coast are basically Barbrady from South Park… standing over a clear crime scene saying “move along people nothing to see here”… and it’s absolutely infuriating and insulting because like one we pay for this with tax money and two we definitely deserve better “protection” if they wanna justify existing….
@breadforfeet6740
@breadforfeet6740 6 ай бұрын
As an American, it's sad to me to see that other countries also have shit police. At least yours don't show up (often) and use unwarranted lethal force. I have sworn that if I'm ever in a car crash or something similar, I won't be the one to call the police. I do not trust a single person wearing a badge.
@RealJuiceWrld
@RealJuiceWrld 6 ай бұрын
No they’ll just randomly show up and start accosting you or physically pushing you, fine you a couple $100 to meet their ticket quota, and then sue you if you try to argue it. Which I suppose is better than lethal force…
@joshuanunn9552
@joshuanunn9552 6 ай бұрын
They are pretty good at locking up and investigating people with wrong opinions. When they are motivated they can be surprisingly efficient.
@taitsmith8521
@taitsmith8521 6 ай бұрын
You're lucky. In the U.S. the cops prioritize officer safety first, yet call themselves heroes. A hero is somebody who puts the safety of others ahead of their own safety. Also, here in Texas, they just made it okay for police to shoot people in the back when they pose no threat. I'll take incompetence over licensing murders any day.
@slicedbread5692
@slicedbread5692 6 ай бұрын
​@@breadforfeet6740how often do you think cops are using unwarranted lethal force?
@0ddcasemusic
@0ddcasemusic 6 ай бұрын
I'm Canadian and this situation is pretty typical of the RCMP. I also do lots of hiking and find weird, unsettling things all the time. It's crazy how much wilderness is out here...how many unsolved cases are out here...
@avgeek-and-fashion
@avgeek-and-fashion 6 ай бұрын
I love Canadians, you are the sane people of the Americas. I am pissed about how your RCMP are completely useless at missing people cases, ESPECIALLY those involving First Nation members!! Isn't there a case with a girl being abducted IN THE MIDDLE OF A PHONE CALL and not one single eye was bat from the govmt.
@anitahalbleib4141
@anitahalbleib4141 6 ай бұрын
oooo what kind of unsettling things, if i may inquire.
@itsyaboyj0j0
@itsyaboyj0j0 6 ай бұрын
@@anitahalbleib4141The mysterious killing/disappearances of multiple indigenous people... Mundane, sad, horrible things.
@More_Row
@More_Row 6 ай бұрын
@@itsyaboyj0j0And you come across that often hiking huh?
@CanadianTehGamer
@CanadianTehGamer 6 ай бұрын
@@itsyaboyj0j0 People of all kinds of races go missing all the time, why should only indigenous people be focused on?
@billalumni7760
@billalumni7760 5 ай бұрын
The RCMP seems like the laziest police force ever. 'You want to do the investigation or go watch curling, eh?' 'Ya, he musta just wandered off into the forest'. 'Yep, makes sense, case closed'.
@billclay9511
@billclay9511 Ай бұрын
RCMP are too busy guarding the local Tim Horton's
@billalumni7760
@billalumni7760 Ай бұрын
@@billclay9511 Indeed, have to protect Canada's National Heritage.
@enthiegavoir5955
@enthiegavoir5955 13 күн бұрын
The Lethbridge Police Department was probably too busy repeatedly running over deer to care about criminal investigations (I'm not making up the deer thing, there's a video of it from around the time)
@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse
@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse 6 ай бұрын
I'm nicely snugged in at a mountain campsite with my dogs, watching fresh snowfall and listening to this in front of a lovely crackling pine fire. I took off my holster for comfort. I realize as I'm listening to this I have subconsciously reached out to index the exact location of my sidearm at least a half dozen times. To say these events are unsettling is an understatement.
@loslakers530
@loslakers530 3 ай бұрын
Its always a good thing to know people like you have a dog and always armed when you need it, especially in certain terrains
@gem9089
@gem9089 3 ай бұрын
What kind of dog? I take my Presa Canario Mastiff everywhere! Not allowed guns here in Scotland But then again,.we don't have dangerous animals in the wild.
@MereCashmere
@MereCashmere 2 ай бұрын
​@gem9089 you've got humans
@Malphas38th
@Malphas38th Ай бұрын
@@MereCashmerethe most dangerous animal to ever live tbh
@swagathan5
@swagathan5 6 ай бұрын
I'm fascinated that "removing the steering column of a car in the middle of the woods" was seen as a normal, unsuspicious activity by the RCMP. I actually asked a friend of mine who's really good with cars about this, and he said that it would not be easy to remove a steering column in the woods without tools.
@Renderc4t
@Renderc4t 6 ай бұрын
It's an awkward job but a screwdriver and socket wrench set is all you'd need for a truck like that. Reasonable tools one might carry in their vehicle. Nothing else about the removal of the steering column makes any sense though. It's not going to unbolt itself in a fire, it seems like way too much effort for a drug hiding spot and why would someone even take it?
@frogking5573
@frogking5573 6 ай бұрын
they stated in the video it was to make sure no evidence on the steering wheel could be found,@@Renderc4t
@jamesleonard2870
@jamesleonard2870 6 ай бұрын
That struck me too as being odd. Could be that towing the vehicle might be a reason it was removed. It might leave some tell tale sign that the vehicle was impounded by the authorities 👀
@heatherbee4248
@heatherbee4248 6 ай бұрын
Who says they weren't traveling with the right tools? Whoever it was knew what they were doing, they probably knew enough to come equipped to pull off the job.
@dshmechanic
@dshmechanic 6 ай бұрын
I cannot believe how the truck has never been removed. I mean, unless the truck was (at the very least) raised up a foot or two, how do we know that both men's bodies weren't placed underneath the vehicle before it was torched? It certainly would have been easy enough to do, as before the tires were destroyed by the fire, the ground clearance would have been more than enough to stuff their bodies. Seems rather negligent on the part of the authorities and detectives to never have explored this option, but then it doesn't seem like they ever gave a rat's ass in the first place. Unreal....
@ViGraceful
@ViGraceful 6 ай бұрын
I lived where Marshal was from when this happened and though I didn't know him personally, I was friends with people who did. I've been posting on True Crime groups over and over along with Reddit. I've spoken to his mom and his sister on multiple occasions. I cannot thank you enough for giving this case the attention it deserves. Thank you so much. I've been to the vigils. I've seen the pain his loved ones hold for him. Thank you for giving them attention. For everyone else: Please don't let this case be forgotten. Something happened to Marshal and it is so important to keep his story alive. Someone knows what happened to this man. Someone was involved.
@WK-47
@WK-47 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of a quote of a Mountie about another case, I think also in BC. "People here know something, but they're not talking." I'm paraphrasing, but it's still haunting as hell, like what you said about someone knowing what happened. Wish I could remember the name of the town. I want to say Kamloops. It's by a lake, and I'm pretty sure it's in the south of the province. Not helpful, I know, but it also featured a burnt vehicle. Three things to never underestimate: corruption, how tight knit small communities can be, and how many strange things go on out in the woods.
@sarthurl9001
@sarthurl9001 6 ай бұрын
​@@WK-47Lindsay Buziak? There are multiple cases out of BC in particular that make it appear to have some of the most corrupt law enforcement agencies out there
@stevengill1736
@stevengill1736 6 ай бұрын
We had a similar incident up in northern California a few years ago, except a body was found in the car after the fire was put out....
@giakolou2876
@giakolou2876 6 ай бұрын
He lost or used up the product he was supposed to shift and couldn’t pay up. So they got their own ways of dealing with it.
@TheShawndaLee
@TheShawndaLee 6 ай бұрын
He went to Churchill with me. He was a little older but I remember seeing him around the school all the time. I feel so awful for his family
@mentvltrillness
@mentvltrillness 5 ай бұрын
The picture that's been painted is terrifying. Truck taken to the middle of nowhere (a truck he somehow paid off) and torched with a missing steering wheel. A "scary dude" reportedly seen with both at the same time, having power over the both of them. And the scene supposedly having signs someone might've been burned alive. Sounds like someone knew what they were doing, professional even. I doubt either missing man will ever just reappear.
@bruderschweigen6889
@bruderschweigen6889 3 ай бұрын
Not very professional if the dude ran to the creek on fire lol the opposite
@mentvltrillness
@mentvltrillness 3 ай бұрын
@@bruderschweigen6889 have they been caught yet? No.
@HCG
@HCG 25 күн бұрын
It’s very obviously drug trade related. The scary man was likely an enforcer collecting on a debt. The broken hand being shattered by a hammer was the warning
@XX-121
@XX-121 15 күн бұрын
@@HCG that sounds about right. one thing i was thinking was whoever drove the truck back there, knew about the cabin and knew nobody was gonna be there because why would you risk going back there of all places? i'm sure they offed the two guys somewhere else. weird they didn't burn the clothes and stuff unless they just wanted the authorities to focus the investigation there and not where it actually went down. but i also think the cops are probably in on it.
@ssoupernovaa
@ssoupernovaa 5 ай бұрын
there are so many young men who have disappeared under very odd circumstances in British Columbia in the last decade or two, all of the same ethnicity, general looks, age, etc. it makes me wonder if something bigger is going on. i always see these types of videos for big cases in the US, and never any that hit this close to home. thank you so much for this amazing video. i hope more creators like you raise this sort of awareness that this stuff happens in canada, especially these really weird disappearance cases in BC. the one that always sits in the back of my mind is Bryan Braumberger, who disappeared minutes away from my elementary school in 2007. his missing person posters are still on the lamp posts on the drive up... its been close to 20 years. his poor family. so many of these cases one after another just make me think more and more that there is something going on with the RCMP. something very corrupt.
@micheljavert5923
@micheljavert5923 6 ай бұрын
I’m fascinated at how the authorities were of the opinion that there either wasn’t anything strange about the truck site, or it was strange but not so strange that it needed looking into. Ol’ boy scattered his belongings, smashed all his electronics, removed his steering column, and then immolated his freshly paid-off vehicle before walking into the woods to die. Nothing out of the ordinary. Must happen every other month up there.
@RK-zh5vj
@RK-zh5vj 6 ай бұрын
It does. People get killed during drug deals almost weekly in BC.
@yuordreams
@yuordreams 6 ай бұрын
The RCMP has always been ineffectual, unless they are covering up the crimes of people like Doug Ford, then they... Also... Have nothing to investigate. Hm.
@TheRestedOne
@TheRestedOne 6 ай бұрын
They probably came to the same conclusion we did in this video: drug dealing gone bad. I had a friend who became aware his neighbors were dealing meth. He notified the police on their adjacent bad neighbor activities and cooperated with the cops for months. It took about a year before they finally busted them with about 8 different officers. The authorities are likely aware but don’t want to raise too many flags for their leads or are still building a solid case.
@stefanminasevic5719
@stefanminasevic5719 6 ай бұрын
Either the force is in cahoots with the third player or they really don't want to do their jobs.
@LordWaterBottle
@LordWaterBottle 6 ай бұрын
​@@stefanminasevic5719as if police ever want to do their actual job
@remybell
@remybell 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for getting the word out about Marshall. He was an acquaintance, we hung out in the same circle. His disappearance always bothers me. Posters are still up all over southern Alberta. Just felt really off to me.
@Mangs1337
@Mangs1337 3 ай бұрын
*Here's my theory on what happened.* Daniel and Marshal had both gotten tangled up with the wrong crowd, and eventually got themselves into a criminal organization or gang trafficking drugs. I think it's feasable that Daniel and Marshal didn't know each other, but they may have been part of the same organization. Marshal may have driven the long journey to traffic drugs for the organization either for money, or to pay off his debt. The fact that he visited a storage facility, a known place to store such substances, is indication of this. I believe both men were struggling with substance abuse. Due to this, they had gotten indebted to this organization and probably owed them a lot of money. Proof of this is clear. Daniel had his hand crushed with a hammer in retaliation (typical behavior from criminals wanting money), but much more telling is the night in the pub where the two men were spotted with a third party. The shady guy sitting in the car was most likely a guy higher up in the organization. He was there to collect money. That night in the pub was most likely him having a meeting with the two boys telling them that their final debt is due. In desperation, Daniel attempted to withdraw money he didn't have from an ATM. The fact that Daniel said "I think he's going to kill us" was probably a plea for help. He knew he was on his last legs if he couldn't pay the money he owed, but what could he do? If he got the woman involved, she would most likely have gotten killed as well. That night, the boys probably failed to pay their debt for the final time, and their punishment was their lives. This third party, maybe with additional backup, killed the boys, disposed the bodies somewhere they will never be found, and drove the car to a remote location to throw police of the trail. Before torching the car, he searched through it, maybe looking for any drugs or other valuables that may have been hidden in it. After setting fire to it he stayed around to wait for the flames to die down, but shortly after it did, he noticed the hikers approaching, so he went into hiding. He stayed in the woods until they were gone, and came back to make sure there were no evidence left behind, then he left. A criminal organization being involved would also explain why some parties are worried for their own safety, like that one guy who deleted his comments and said he couldn't divulge information. There might very well be a powerful drug organization operating in the area, known to certain locals. This would also explain why a LOT of people seem to go missing in that region. Maybe this organization is so influental that it even has the ability to manipulate police, which would explain the weird behavior from law enforcement. Just a theory of course, but this is what my instincts are telling me.
@Chex2331
@Chex2331 25 күн бұрын
Spot on, in my opinion
@ayronbraz8937
@ayronbraz8937 24 күн бұрын
With the given evidence, this is exactly how I believe it went down. Drug violence is prevalent all over, even in the small rural cities.
@MarkusManon
@MarkusManon 4 ай бұрын
The 3D graphics on this video are phenomenal though, great work
@somewherewest2556
@somewherewest2556 6 ай бұрын
The RCMP (and Canadian law enforcement in general) are notoriously incompetent to the point where it almost seems intentional.
@frogking5573
@frogking5573 6 ай бұрын
best part is, the incompetency dates back to its founding and precursor colonial group. you can find tons of videos about missing person and found bodies where despite loads of sus evidence.... the RCMP is just like "idk guys looks like no foul play despite all the things we found that look like foul play." The RCMP are fucking clowns to the max. I see some people saying that they may be corrupt if it is in fact a drug case but honestly I don't think they are smart enough to be corrupt lol. They are too dumb to know how to.
@TchSktch
@TchSktch 6 ай бұрын
at this point im convinced that when VPD busts fentanyl dealers and steal their drugs instead of arresting them, they peddle it right back into the street for some extra profit.
@teenieneenie630
@teenieneenie630 6 ай бұрын
You mean it's NOT intentional?!?
@razorfett147
@razorfett147 6 ай бұрын
Definitely seemed intentional in this case. What other reason would these offices have for taking every avenue necessary to avoid it being deemed a criminal case? Id bet my last paycheck that someone high up in this department has ties to the organization responsible for these deaths/disappearances, and they hustled everyone all the way down to the street level patrolmen to write it off as something other than what it clearly is: which is the disposing of a young mans life by nefarious elements operating in that region
@darkodom
@darkodom 6 ай бұрын
The RCMP would never, ever, cover up anything related to someone working for or around them. Never. Perish the thought.
@cecilkeith1951
@cecilkeith1951 6 ай бұрын
There's nothing more frightening than seeing, plainly, how the law only cares about your well-being if it has some value. If you're a "nobody" you just get forgotten in paperwork.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 6 ай бұрын
%100 would have been a criminal investigation if they had life insurance...
@OlYables
@OlYables 6 ай бұрын
And a lot of that depends on whether you have people in your life willing to make a big deal about your disappearance and pressure the police into acting. In this case, however, not even the public pressure from the family got them to budge. But if this was a guy with nobody missing him, they definitely wouldn’t have to issue a press release.
@realcanadiangirl64
@realcanadiangirl64 6 ай бұрын
​@@OlYablesHe has lots of family here in Lethbridge missing him 😢
@MelissaThompson432
@MelissaThompson432 6 ай бұрын
I'm not Canadian, but thought at first he might be guilty of being indigenous and being problematic. I see that he's not; he must be at least 4th generation Asian Canadian. On the other hand, if I went missing, no one in LE would be interested in finding me, either, and I come from hundreds of years of US citizenry. I thoroughly understand the frustration of the family. I will stay up to date on the case as best I can. This stinks of LE incompetence or cover-up. Or both.
@jmorrisey79
@jmorrisey79 6 ай бұрын
​@@MelissaThompson432guilty of being indigenous? Wtf?
@mariesmith3819
@mariesmith3819 5 ай бұрын
With all the stories I have seen over the years, the RCMP is the most incompetant group I have ever seen. My heart goes out to these familys and hope they can find peace.
@magsman448
@magsman448 5 ай бұрын
Corruption is everywhere these days. Gone are the days of loyalty and morals. Corruption disguised as incompetence?
@kerryhayward9407
@kerryhayward9407 5 ай бұрын
Ha, a year or so ago I said to my self the same thing, I have listened to a lot of true crime podcast and some bad ones, most of the worst police stuff ups or badly investigated crimes were of the RCMP , I’m a kiwi and was always under the assumption they were very good, but apparently not at all.
@PaulRudd1941
@PaulRudd1941 4 ай бұрын
​@@kerryhayward9407 you'd think a group that receives 3 times the amount of funding our armed forces receive would make them half-decent. Nope, incompetent trash.
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 4 ай бұрын
Maybe if they traded in thor horses for cars, they'd be more competent.
@angelachouinard4581
@angelachouinard4581 4 ай бұрын
@@kerryhayward9407 I'm American and there are always things coming up about the FBI. I used to think RCMP were better, but research shows not so, especially in regards to Native Americans.
@jakef.7126
@jakef.7126 6 ай бұрын
Law enforcement won't investigate because there is no evidence of foul play... They can't find any evidence because they refuse to investigate. An absolutely insane catch-22. My heart goes out to the family. It seems law enforcement are part of a cover up.
@ChadVanHalen5150
@ChadVanHalen5150 6 ай бұрын
Nah, Occam's razor... Multiple precincts between multiple provinces are actively covering up a random dude's disappearance Or... They couldn't solve it right away and just stopped doing their jobs to focus on other things
@SaunterVaguelyDown
@SaunterVaguelyDown 6 ай бұрын
​@ChadVanHalen5150 I mean he might not have been a "random dude". The police get their hands on large scores of drugs. It's not out of the realm of possibility that some dirty cops were using these guys to sell or run the drugs. Also, the police is an ole boys club. If one dept wants something buried, it's going to stay that way unless the other dept is super on the up and up.... which is super super rare. I say this as someone who knows a cop, detective & former fbi agent. They've had numerous conversations around be about dirty cops and how they're pressured to cover for them.
@burnsloads
@burnsloads 6 ай бұрын
I'm fat because I eat, and I eat because I'm fat
@randomtinypotatocried
@randomtinypotatocried 6 ай бұрын
@@ChadVanHalen5150Can't say for the BC RCMP, but the RCMP for Lethbridge is known for fuckin up cases (actually live close to there)
@jakef.7126
@jakef.7126 6 ай бұрын
@@burnsloads That's not a catch 22...
@bastonneknight9478
@bastonneknight9478 6 ай бұрын
I worked in a warehouse with some guys from a reserve way out in the back country. They joke about it, but you could tell they were afraid of the place. Told me you didn't go out at night unless you had to because people would go "missing" in the night.
@Karlach_
@Karlach_ 6 ай бұрын
Canada is so huge but only has a population of 38 million and most Canadians live in or around just a few major cities. The further north you go the less people there are. There's a lot of places to hide in Canada. Easy for people to just go missing.
@Tsumami__
@Tsumami__ 6 ай бұрын
That spot isn’t even that backcountry. There’s a road. Hikers could easily access the site. I’m sorry to the fam but it’s very likely anyone could have come upon the spot between the first report and RCMP actually making it out there. Hunters, hikers, loggers, etc.
@dismurrart6648
@dismurrart6648 6 ай бұрын
​@Tsumami__ yeah but who's gonna remove the steering column and burn the truck out?
@ricomock2
@ricomock2 6 ай бұрын
​@dismurrart6648 Yeah, it's not like the catalytic converter was what was taken. A steering column has no real value for thieves or anyone else who comes across a whole vehicle
@chronovore7234
@chronovore7234 6 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@Tsumami__ it is pretty backcountry though. Have you actually watched videos of people going to the site? The “road” is old dirt logging road called the Brian waddington trail, it’s a rough trail requiring off road vehicles, and the truck was found nearly 20 miles up this trail in the middle of nowhere. The closest town is pretty small.
@josephprendergast2
@josephprendergast2 Ай бұрын
One thing I picked up from this was the car still had burning smoke fumes when the tourists found it abandoned meaning the fire took place very recently and the moved items suggests to me that the area was being carefully watched. The whole scene just gives off a very dreary scary feeling. Its like something out of a horror movie.
@alex57821
@alex57821 6 ай бұрын
I've actually been to the Brian Waddington hut and I can attest the truck is still there. I went in winter of last year for a ski trip, and I remember seeing the truck and not thinking much of it. Random ruined trucks are not an uncommon thing to see on a fire road in BC. I even have a video of my brother climbing up on top and skiing off the hood. Crazy to think about, great video as always.
@eriknervik9003
@eriknervik9003 6 ай бұрын
My wife and I went on honeymoon in BC, and we stayed at port renfrew and at one afternoon we drove up a mountain logging road and came across an abandoned water tanker trailer. I climbed up top and we got some pictures of me on top. There’s a lot of abandoned stuff in BC especially Vancouver island.
@crf80fdarkdays
@crf80fdarkdays 5 ай бұрын
Just looked it up and it seems like they removed it recently
@Malphas38th
@Malphas38th Ай бұрын
@@crf80fdarkdaysyea someone else commented they went to the area recently and the car was gone
@POLARTTYRTM
@POLARTTYRTM 6 ай бұрын
Welcome back Barely Sociable! We dearly missed you. I checked your Twitter out and hope you are feeling better and things get even better from now on. Your community truly missed you as you are one of the best creators on this website, with a serious tone covering interesting topics with a quality better than most professional documentaries unlike other "mystery" channels. I hope you are back and continue to deliver videos in the near future, you are unique in this part of youtube for the sheer quality and good topics. We love you brother, hope you are alright today.
@POLARTTYRTM
@POLARTTYRTM 6 ай бұрын
Any upload from Barely Sociable is a breath of fresh good air in the mystery side of youtube because every "mystery youtuber" does nowadays is talking about "muh creepy ARG/creepypasta/web series" cringefest.
@Karlach_
@Karlach_ 6 ай бұрын
@@POLARTTYRTMARGs can be pretty interesting if they're well made. Like the Mandela Catalogue or Mystery Flesh Pit National Park.
@gandalf_thegrey
@gandalf_thegrey 6 ай бұрын
​@@Karlach_the problem is: Most are the polar opposite of "Well made".
@madeintexas3d442
@madeintexas3d442 6 ай бұрын
Please edit your content for the algorithm in the future. Your extremely slow narration, extremely long fades to black and video sections with no content really makes it hard to watch the full video.
@Karlach_
@Karlach_ 6 ай бұрын
@@gandalf_thegrey Then ignore the bad ones and only focus on the good ones like I do. There are quite a few of them to dive into.
@just4now141
@just4now141 5 ай бұрын
This screams drug trafficking. And yes both seemed to be connected
@RaeTheYeti
@RaeTheYeti 6 ай бұрын
The 3d animations were so haunting, it gave so much depth and mood to the story, well done!
@TheRealNova99
@TheRealNova99 6 ай бұрын
Every sign points to the police knowing about the smuggling and/or being involved. Every sign. And for those who scoff, this happens more often than you'd think. Those officers who aren't directly involved know to keep their mouths shut. The family needs to keep pushing, and having big KZbinrs like you bring attention to the case is fantastic. With enough pressure, hopefully whatever Canadian organization oversees the police will start investigating and expose the corruption that's very likely there (Also, it should be noted that the RCMP has a nasty history of not investigating cases involving natives for some reason, so that could be part of it too).
@joebob2311productions
@joebob2311productions 6 ай бұрын
Ive heard firsthand accounts from people who have been roped into certain police business because the police "caught" them and has enough dirt on them to basically get in on whatever they were doing. Not canadian. From a much smaller country.
@TiffMcGiff
@TiffMcGiff 6 ай бұрын
No doubt the cops were in cahoots. The real question to me is weather they were paid or threatened 😮 I guessing both, but more importantly threatened to have family hurt. Not an excuse of course, but the most probable explanation.
@numbah16
@numbah16 6 ай бұрын
Anyone who looks at this comment thread should look up the MacLeans article that investigates the claims of Gabriel Wortmann's likelihood of being a police informant (the Nova Scotia mass murderer). They coldly sacrificed their own to keep the secret about his relations with RCMP to protect their own dirty history with infiltrating the black market drug and gun trade- I have no doubt. RCMP is corrupt to its core. My uncle was a commissioner and the things he laughed off is super fucked up.
@lazykatie42069
@lazykatie42069 6 ай бұрын
"for some reason" sounds like the reason is racism, something known to not be uncommon among cops
@mangofree
@mangofree 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. This is what I was thinking the entire time. There is way too much that’s off about this for it to just be another instance of negligent police work.
@moonlightcrickets9411
@moonlightcrickets9411 6 ай бұрын
I once dated a US Federal Agent. She said if you want a strong organization that will thoroughly investigate a crime, you don’t go to the R.C.M.P. She said they always seem to be more concerned about their bowling league score and having their picture taken at a community event while in their “cute” dress uniform.
@thedeviouspanda
@thedeviouspanda 6 ай бұрын
I've heard some things about the RCMP along the same lines. Maybe it's because the Canadian justice system as a whole is kind of a joke. Letting murderers out in society and allowing them to change their names to hide in plain sight, for instance. I do have to give them credit for notifying the local police in my city, at the other side of the US, of a child predator in our midst. They were investigating CP and they tracked some images to a man here.
@canarddelta3046
@canarddelta3046 6 ай бұрын
@@thedeviouspanda and that man was let loose by canadian law, mr swirl wasnt it ?
@MikeOxlong-
@MikeOxlong- 6 ай бұрын
True dope released a middle eastern terrorist who killed 2 US service members (who had been convicted of 1st degree murder twice as well as terrorism charges being part of al-queda or the taliban (can’t member which one). He served part of his time in gitmo and asked to be transferred to Canada to serve out his sentence since he was a Canadian citizen by birth. And not only did he release him, but gave him 10 million dollars and paraded him around like a hero… 🤦‍♂️ Absolutely disgusting and truly insane.
@derfvcderfvc8714
@derfvcderfvc8714 6 ай бұрын
​@MikeOxlong- sounds like he killed two soldiers while at war, got captured and then tortured. Good thing he got released then.
@mj.l
@mj.l 6 ай бұрын
@@MikeOxlong- sounds like he was a prisoner of war. why shouldn't he be free?
@_KaiTheGamer_
@_KaiTheGamer_ 6 ай бұрын
Tell me how I've never heard of this case, but the second you mentioned the RCMP I *knew* for a *fact* they'd find "no suspicious activity" in the obviously suspicious area.
@dlm1166
@dlm1166 5 ай бұрын
Wow, dude, your videos are the best I’ve seen. The work you put in to the production alone is f’ing amazing. I haven’t seen anything like it. And your voice was made for fame. I’m really blown away. Your channel just came across my feed yesterday and I’m so happy it did. 😊
@Legionmint7091
@Legionmint7091 6 ай бұрын
I don’t know how many times I’ve read and seen videos that clearly shows the incompetence of the Canadian police. It’s almost unbelievable that nothing is done about it.
@darkodom
@darkodom 6 ай бұрын
"Who watches the watch dogs?" No one.
@JBMSTRIKER71
@JBMSTRIKER71 6 ай бұрын
I think the cops were in on it or payed off.
@diogenesofsinope6502
@diogenesofsinope6502 6 ай бұрын
Our whole country is broken 😎😎
@TheWorkmonkey1
@TheWorkmonkey1 6 ай бұрын
The entire Canadian parliament gave a standing ovation to a member of the Waffen-SS because he "fought the Russians in ww2" not one of them had the cognitive capacity to critically analyse who exactly would have been fighting the Russians in WW2. So instead they all stood there grinning and clapping.
@casteanpreswyn7528
@casteanpreswyn7528 6 ай бұрын
​@TheWorkmonkey1 bruh, I remember reading about that. First thought was, "oh, the Onion is losing its touch."
@songweaver8638
@songweaver8638 6 ай бұрын
Just yesterday I was like, "Man I wish there was another Barely Sociable doc to watch." And today my wish was granted. What an eerie, sad story. My heart goes out to these families, and I hope someday they get answers.
@happinesshotel5375
@happinesshotel5375 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t that crazy how that happens? You wish for it and it comes true lol.
@jbm0866
@jbm0866 5 ай бұрын
This is my first time watching anything on this channel, but I will sub now. This true crime story is not tv production quality, but to me that is a GOOD thing. This style is much easier to follow..and relaxing background music instead of the tension building nonsense used in tv productions. Kudos to all involved!👍
@DEAJP10
@DEAJP10 4 ай бұрын
Just stumbled across this channel. Subbed as soon as I heard the narrator’s voice. The visual presentation is the best I’ve seen on YT and I’m barely 2 minutes in! Brilliant discovery!!
@paddmaddproductions
@paddmaddproductions 6 ай бұрын
Neat to see to see a Barely Sociable video from my neck of the woods. I actually remember seeing a news report about this, and finding it weird that the RCMP did not suspect foul play. That whole highway is a known drug corridor, and the murders committed by Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky had only occurred just four months prior, and the murder scenes were extremely similar to how Marshal's truck was found. The RCMP also has a pretty bad reputation in BC when it comes to solving murders and missing persons cases, such as the unsolved murder of Phillip Innes Fraser, the dissapearances and murders on the Highway of Tears(which is a rabbit hole itself), and the delayed arrest of serial killer Clifford Olson, who was even paid $100,000 in a plea bargain for the locations of his victims.
@siren604
@siren604 6 ай бұрын
Could also add Robert Pickton to a list of reasons as to why people in BC might not trust how the RCMP handled this case honestly
@poozizzle
@poozizzle 6 ай бұрын
Incredible. All that deserves a video too.
@macaylacayton2915
@macaylacayton2915 6 ай бұрын
this whole case to me seems like a cover-up anyway
@Woshhh
@Woshhh 6 ай бұрын
From an totally objective standpoint I believe this is another cover-up case. In my opinion they were a part of an large organized crime group and were eliminated because of something they had done or knew. It wouldn’t be a surprise since it’s common and there are a lot of other cases such as this one in close proximity. Also I am sure the police department is in on it which is sadly also not so uncommon. I hope this situation as a whole will get resolved some day and bring some answers to the families of the victims not just the ones mentioned in this video but all of the others involved.
@meb5599
@meb5599 6 ай бұрын
I live about 2 hours away from Calgary, so I thought it was so cool to hear a video about a local case for me from one of my favourite youtubers! And on Halloween no less, what a treat! : D
@Luis-yy2fs
@Luis-yy2fs 6 ай бұрын
It’s always good to see a barely sociable video pop up
@BriarLeaf00
@BriarLeaf00 6 ай бұрын
I genuinely thought they dipped from the platform completely.
@ctaaaaaaa
@ctaaaaaaa 6 ай бұрын
i’m always in disbelief for a second when i see one pop up 😂
@ForumArcade
@ForumArcade 6 ай бұрын
Barley social.
@randoir1863
@randoir1863 6 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, it is !!!
@Peachu_n_Goma_Home
@Peachu_n_Goma_Home 6 ай бұрын
I thought something happened to him was tell my husband last week
@dox_xus
@dox_xus 6 ай бұрын
As soon as I learned that the two guys were first nations, it wasn't at all surprising at how piss poor the RCMP have handled this case.
@justinbergman4288
@justinbergman4288 5 ай бұрын
Man every video this channel makes is a great thoughtful in-depth banger of a video!! Wish there was one a week. I’d watch them all!
@EpicgamerwinXD6669
@EpicgamerwinXD6669 6 ай бұрын
Holy sh!t this man is actually still alive! I was beginning to think the music industry did something to keep him from exposing more of their secrets!
@Ahamkeira
@Ahamkeira 6 ай бұрын
he's really active on twitter and posts teasers for videos
@thegardenofeatin5965
@thegardenofeatin5965 6 ай бұрын
Is he also active on MySpace and Friendster? Does he frequently update his Livejournal?@@Ahamkeira
@MachiriReviews
@MachiriReviews 6 ай бұрын
Part 2 When??
@charliem989
@charliem989 6 ай бұрын
Or the Iguana skins cartel!
@thearmedgardener
@thearmedgardener 6 ай бұрын
I kinda think they did. This is a new space pattern for him, he didn't use to pause like that. It feels like text to speech
@skittles3310
@skittles3310 6 ай бұрын
I have an extended family member a cousin who was older than me who was murdered and they found his truck burned out on top of a mountain close by. He hadn't shown up to visitation for a weekend with his only daughter. This was enough to send literally every single one of us into a panic. He wouldn't have even been late to pick up his baby girl, much less just not show up at all. Within the hour he was supposed to be there his ex-wife had contacted everyone. Within 2 hours of him not arriving we'd all called every hospital and police station between the 2 County's he would have traveled through to get from his home and our county where his daughter lived. We did find out that he had worked a regular day and left work at a normal time. We tried to report him missing but they weren't very worried about an adult male missing on a Friday night from visitation weekend. Come Monday morning he didn't report to work. This was when they finally took a missing person's report. 6 days later they found his truck up on a well-known mountain at the very end of a road. There wasn't any reason any of us could think of as to why he would have been there. Keep in mind this cousin was huge, huge in a muscular way. He literally won a Sylvester Stallone look alike contest at one point. So he would have easily felt safe in the presence of almost anyone. Of course, he didn't happen to be a psychopath so he never thought about someone pulling out a gun on him instead of fighting fairly. (Small town guy) So found the truck burned to a crisp, but no sign of him or what happened to him either. He was missing for years, 6 I think, but I genuinely don't remember exactly. Then some boys were hiking up there where the truck was found. They found a human skull. They reported it, and a forensics team found 6 shallow burial spots. Someone killed him, and dismembered his body and buried him in a circular pattern. An arm, then his other, his head in another, then his legs each in their own graves, and his torso. This is still an open case. They believe that he had gotten involved in drugs or something illegal and that the cartel got him. The police won't really tell us anything so we don't know if the cartel stuff is just a rumor that is unfounded or not. We do know that he had been shot in the back of the head several times. This has been unsolved for years and years now. We honestly don't believe it will ever be solved either. There was no evidence at all. So unless someone talks we will likely never know. I have never mentioned this even though I watch and comment quite a bit on true crime content bc it sounds so damn unbelievable. Hell, I don't think i would believe it if I read this story in a comment either! I assure you that I am telling everything truthfully tho. I would never make something up this horrible.
@stivonbright802
@stivonbright802 6 ай бұрын
Least unhinged Trump supporter.
@poolhalljunkie9
@poolhalljunkie9 6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear about this. I hope it does get solved so you and your family can have some closure and justice.
@LucasTirey
@LucasTirey 6 ай бұрын
I was with you until you started saying you wouldn't believe this story if you read it, the disclaimer you put at the end is literally the only thing that makes this story sound "fake" to me
@georgejones5019
@georgejones5019 6 ай бұрын
@@stivonbright802 TDS.
@skittles3310
@skittles3310 6 ай бұрын
@LucasTirey It's not, I wish it was. It sounds crazy to me, and I was involved in real life. To me, it seems like it should be a plot in a terrible movie.
@numidium34
@numidium34 5 ай бұрын
Love your videos. One of the best KZbinrs out there hands down. Production quality and narration are amazing
@kentjensen4504
@kentjensen4504 4 ай бұрын
You’re the best at this. Your scripts, visual production, voice work, and general attitude and approach. I wish you would publish a bit more often.
@S0m35uy
@S0m35uy 6 ай бұрын
I am originally from southwestern British Columbia. This is far from the only example of young men disappearing under mysterious circumstances and it being ignored or dismissed by the police. Kristofer Couture is another prime example.
@MichaelSplatkins
@MichaelSplatkins 6 ай бұрын
Not just young men. Native girls have been disappearing for many decades with practically no comprehensive investigations into them. It's so f*cked up how racist and corrupt the cops are. Many are bought and paid for by our main drug network under the Hell's Angels.
@agoodnight1050
@agoodnight1050 6 ай бұрын
Sasquatch?
@revalution1965
@revalution1965 6 ай бұрын
reminds me of the boys on the tracks conspiracy clearly someone high up is covering up any links to a drug trade operation
@TchSktch
@TchSktch 6 ай бұрын
perhaps our hills have eyes@@1694cgrnt
@nyjets2428
@nyjets2428 6 ай бұрын
@@agoodnight1050samsquanch
@purveyorsofpositivity
@purveyorsofpositivity 6 ай бұрын
I lived in Squamish during this time and remember seeing Daniel's missing person posters around town. Until now I had no clue how deep and weird this story had become. Thank you so much for sharing!
@catmanistheman
@catmanistheman 6 ай бұрын
Listening to this while on a drive from Lethbridge to Calgary was a bit surreal to hear that called out. Had forgotten about this story over the past few years. Great video
@Mvck
@Mvck 7 күн бұрын
I must say, I was sad with the less uploads but the upgrade in quality was well worth it 👌 nice play.
@yoteonthetoobs
@yoteonthetoobs 6 ай бұрын
The production quality of this video is absolutely insane mate, it's clear how much you've put into this - from research to visuals. Brilliant work and incredibly informative
@shirmeymckamey9386
@shirmeymckamey9386 6 ай бұрын
Seriously?? I've never in my life sat through a more boring and disjointed mess of a (can't even call it this) so called documentary😮😮
@aconfusedlacroix3965
@aconfusedlacroix3965 6 ай бұрын
@@shirmeymckamey9386 yea how dare he forgot to plastered a funny family guy moment beneath for people with attention span of a toddler!! I can't believe this!
@shirmeymckamey9386
@shirmeymckamey9386 6 ай бұрын
@@aconfusedlacroix3965 reading your post, I can't believe you ever went to school at all. Not even kindegrarten
@aconfusedlacroix3965
@aconfusedlacroix3965 6 ай бұрын
@@shirmeymckamey9386 said the kid who can't spell 😂 next time try harder besides insulting people uploads alright? Im sure the school going to teach you one or two things 🤗
@daydreamdirty
@daydreamdirty 6 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@jeffbrooks7246
@jeffbrooks7246 6 ай бұрын
As mentioned several times, arson is a criminal activity and beings the steering wheel was removed that kind of indicates the truck didn't catch fire and burn by itself. Some serious questions should be put to the RCMP by some authority that has the right to demand answers. Unbelievable.
@renayeblack5906
@renayeblack5906 5 ай бұрын
I agree with you 100%.
@cherylcooper1885
@cherylcooper1885 5 ай бұрын
Did the police check the body of water nearby for human remains?
@a.y.t.a.s.494
@a.y.t.a.s.494 5 ай бұрын
@@cherylcooper188514:29 in video
@briancrawford8751
@briancrawford8751 5 ай бұрын
Nope, it seems it isn't criminal if Marshal did it because the truck was wholly owned by him, and it wasn't an inhabited building. So, no crime. They weren't lying.
@Caffeine_Addict_2020
@Caffeine_Addict_2020 4 ай бұрын
@@cherylcooper1885yes, it's in the video. They found nothing
@lids65
@lids65 5 ай бұрын
I would suggest the creepy third party person sitting in the bar with them that night was probably known to police in a context outside of the judicial system. This smacks of protection.
@user-ru2db1nj9m
@user-ru2db1nj9m 2 ай бұрын
What a fantastically well produced and narrated documentary, I hope the truth outs in the end. Many thanks for your efforts in this production.
@fernandoguerrerobonilla2019
@fernandoguerrerobonilla2019 5 ай бұрын
What can I say. This is the best channel od mysteries and crimes i've seen in my life.
@anthonyhudson3136
@anthonyhudson3136 5 ай бұрын
this is how a crime doc ought to be done,,no over dramatic music or theatrics and a top narrator who does not have to shout to get the info across.. very well done.
@chadmunson6538
@chadmunson6538 6 ай бұрын
You clearly put a lot of effort into ensuring the viewer's time is well spent. Your efforts are not wasted, friend. Thank you, so much for this.
@CW-Design
@CW-Design 6 ай бұрын
Normally I stick these types of stories on, flip my phone round, close my eyes and fall asleep half way through - not with this one, it’s visually engrossing, well written and interesting. Thank you
@nicolettegeiger3678
@nicolettegeiger3678 6 ай бұрын
I’m in bed and usually fall asleep to stories but I have a feeling I won’t be while this one is on
@jbdbibbaerman8071
@jbdbibbaerman8071 6 ай бұрын
I actually did exactly that on this one lol. Now I have to try and rewatch it bc I missed pretty much the entire thing
@SmushyMcMushy
@SmushyMcMushy 6 ай бұрын
Same.
@martinmathieu6098
@martinmathieu6098 6 ай бұрын
Same thing for me
@videodocs
@videodocs 5 ай бұрын
Stumbled upon your channel. Guessing that there is a lot of work behind your channel - nice to see that you succeeded!
@kentjensen4504
@kentjensen4504 6 ай бұрын
Your videos are beautifully produced. You may be the top guy in this field.
@blaine1987
@blaine1987 6 ай бұрын
This video was of a higher caliber than television or streaming services' comparable programs. Thank you for continually creating excellent content.
@SmellyHam
@SmellyHam 6 ай бұрын
Easily, his videos always are
@EntertainMeTV
@EntertainMeTV 6 ай бұрын
People said the same thing about “Down the Rabbit Hole” before the creator disappeared, now he gets slammed for being a furry 😂
@Milk-vw1cv
@Milk-vw1cv 6 ай бұрын
​@@EntertainMeTVas it should be
@KaiKumanoYeung
@KaiKumanoYeung 6 ай бұрын
Missing Canadian Indigenous men and women in Canada has been an on going problem and many of them go unsolved. It was super interesting to watch a video about Daniel, when rarely any of the disappearances get this level of detail in cover. High quality stuff, really enjoyed watching this.
@joshstephens6574
@joshstephens6574 6 ай бұрын
It's sadly much higher of a percentage to go missing and not ever found for Native Americans also.
@alexhidell8022
@alexhidell8022 6 ай бұрын
Why does their race have to be the center of focus over people of other races?
@SVALINN023
@SVALINN023 6 ай бұрын
@@alexhidell8022 Read that first sentence again and turn on your brain this time. Race is being mentioned because race is relevant here
@Matt-bs9ym
@Matt-bs9ym 6 ай бұрын
Not true at all
@erinb6842
@erinb6842 6 ай бұрын
@@Matt-bs9ymlook up some basic stats.
@courtneyaxtman8645
@courtneyaxtman8645 Ай бұрын
Bro did so good on this vid, I kept looking behind me thinking I might even go missing. Good job, new sub fersureee
@lindasue8719
@lindasue8719 5 ай бұрын
That was absolutely the worst "misspeak" I've ever heard! If that is a direct quote from law enforcement I think they were struggling to find the right expression. IT IS COMPLETELY SUSPICIOUS! I assume what they were trying to say (and failed) was that nothing to indicate foul play. Everything is awful about this case😢
@incremental_failure
@incremental_failure 6 ай бұрын
The tampering part can easily be explained by bears in the area. The moved part is a cooler, it possibly smelled of food. (wrote this before finishing the video.) The drug running conclusion is most likely true. Using old broken electronics is a good way to conceal things as noted. It could also be that the car wheel airbag area was used to store drugs or money. It's a place police rarely look.
@mommy2libras
@mommy2libras 6 ай бұрын
Could also just be people have gone up there and messed around with stuff. Those people that found it put a post out to their group but plentyvof others could have decided to use the trail in that couple of days between and when they saw everything up there, just got curious and started messing with stuff. Anyone without prior knowledge wouldn't automatically think "crime scene" because they'd have figured if it was, cope would have taped it off or picked up anything relevant already.
@mariusvanc
@mariusvanc 6 ай бұрын
Even just random people. It's probably fairly common for people to go up there without signing up, and if they happened on the scene maybe they decided to rummage around.
@incremental_failure
@incremental_failure 6 ай бұрын
@@mommy2libras True. You might not realise how fresh the scene is, thinking it's an old abandoned car sitting there for months. Also, some people just don't care, they'd look around for stuff to find. But my bet is on a bear. There's way more bears than people there at night I assume.
@PoptartParasol
@PoptartParasol 6 ай бұрын
​@@mommy2librasunlikely. How often do random people just mess around with random stuff they find? It makes no sense, humans still have an instinct to stay away from other's belongings. Just like every other animal
@didibolter9362
@didibolter9362 6 ай бұрын
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but, I thought that I seen some money laying on the ground amongst everything thrown around.
@three6ohchris
@three6ohchris 6 ай бұрын
It's wild to me that Daniel's family member reported his car as "abandoned" and had it towed rather than moving it to his home for him. Not to mention the fact that despite knowing his car was "abandoned" (as they claimed), no one filed a missing person's report for another 6 weeks.
@IgivemylifetoChrist
@IgivemylifetoChrist 6 ай бұрын
He couch surfed and didn’t really have a home, which is why both things happened, with a big family and being relatively single, he would move around a lot. Everyone assumed he was somewhere else…Uncle didn’t know where to move it since he had no home… trust me the family organized a search party and did their best, looking for him in wet snow all around the area
@seanhollibaugh3776
@seanhollibaugh3776 6 ай бұрын
If you've had family members like Daniel you would know that taking care of them over a long period of time gets exhausting, it's wierd but kind of understandable.
@Joseph-rx9tp
@Joseph-rx9tp 5 ай бұрын
They probably didnt have the keys to move it.
@thomaslain3845
@thomaslain3845 5 ай бұрын
​@@Joseph-rx9tpthe car was running when it was found
@ninamason9001
@ninamason9001 5 ай бұрын
Keep in mind Daniel was a member of the First Nations. The police are notoriously bad at investigating First Nations cases. It's entirely possible the family was like "cops aren't going to care anyway, we're going to wait a bit and see if he turns up. He has before." It looks weird if you're not part of that community, but...yeah, I can definitely see them just assuming the police wouldn't help. (And look what happened.)
@stinger51505
@stinger51505 4 ай бұрын
Dude. You are a master of this. This vid and the Silk Road. Absolutely enthralling. Bravo!
@castawayonthemoon
@castawayonthemoon 3 ай бұрын
Thank God you’re okay. Just so happy to see you again. Welcome back! ❤
@SuperMickyChow
@SuperMickyChow 6 ай бұрын
I'm not Canadian or American, so my experience is limited to what I see online, but the more I find out about the RCMP, the more I'm convince the organisation is utterly riddled with corruption (or incompetence) from top to bottom.
@bogwife7942
@bogwife7942 6 ай бұрын
I'm canadian. you're correct
@gullybull5568
@gullybull5568 6 ай бұрын
You looklike a mook😮
@gullybull5568
@gullybull5568 6 ай бұрын
Keep your dummass opinion silent if you know shiy about rcmp. They keep canada safe from scum. God bless the mounties. ❤
@vstrom9586
@vstrom9586 6 ай бұрын
Sad but true. The rcmp have been used for political blackmailing & the gov't lap dog for quite a while. The rot starts at the top
@shelbymecham4925
@shelbymecham4925 5 ай бұрын
As a Canadian you are absolutely correct
@DracoGalboy
@DracoGalboy 6 ай бұрын
You cannot convince me that a cop or someone with a cop in their pocket wasn't involved
@rog3155
@rog3155 3 ай бұрын
It’s well known that law enforcement doesn’t care about the indigenous people in Canada. It’s criminal how they treat the missing/murdered indigenous cases. It’s exactly how they treat missing or murdered working girls. They don’t give an it! One less in their eye. So frustrating and sad. Great video.
@whitelily2942
@whitelily2942 5 ай бұрын
Small communities are never safe. They’re close knitted and if they know they’ll keep quiet out of fear of whoever does actually have power in the area.
@Astrochungus
@Astrochungus 6 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the effort and quality content you put into your videos, you dont just regurgitate a topic thats already been covered. Wish i could sub twice
@codexmachina1358
@codexmachina1358 6 ай бұрын
You can make as many accounts as you want and sub with each one
@jong.7944
@jong.7944 6 ай бұрын
Or worse, endless icebergs - hopefully those are going out of fashion soon, right?
@janemiettinen5176
@janemiettinen5176 6 ай бұрын
Or hit the like twice. This is one of the few channels I eagerly wait to see new uploads from, its always going to be time well spent.
@Max-js1mx
@Max-js1mx 6 ай бұрын
Canada mentioned RAAAAAA
@justincase8403
@justincase8403 6 ай бұрын
I totally agree!!! he's one of the best creators on KZbin. we don't even deserve Barely Sociable.
@quinbatcheller5805
@quinbatcheller5805 6 ай бұрын
Dude i literally just saw a missing poster for this guy two days ago. The circumstances looked real suspicious and i really wanted to know more since its somewhat close to home. I really dislike the RCMP they do this all the time. I swear our province has several obvious serial killers just roaming around murdering people not to mention organized crime hits.... it happens all the time and they say theres nothing suspicious all the time.... its ludicrous. Its even worse if the victim is a sex worker or native woman then its almost guaranteed not to be adequately investigated. Its a shameful excuse for detective work, and the RCMP as a whole is racist, disaffected, and useless.
@swaggery
@swaggery 6 ай бұрын
Very obvious when hearing the story about the rich want to be pig farmer serial killer, torturing and murdering east side Vancouver sex workers. No investigation despite overwhelming evidence, but the second they hear about possible illegal firearms they are immediately on the way to arrest the guy.
@stevecariggillio4139
@stevecariggillio4139 6 ай бұрын
Everything is racist. All of it.
@krautroach514
@krautroach514 6 ай бұрын
Amen. Any sort of interaction with a mounty around here will showcase just how stupid, arrogant, and uncaring the average officer is. All the good ones already left, we're stuck with the dregs
@EASMEDIA
@EASMEDIA 6 ай бұрын
I second this. The multiple bodies found around false creek stating no connection?
@CanadianTehGamer
@CanadianTehGamer 6 ай бұрын
You sound racist.
@emiliepan5370
@emiliepan5370 6 ай бұрын
Randomly thought of the channel today and so happy to see a new vid! Amazing worn
@SoShady182
@SoShady182 5 ай бұрын
Dude i can't tell you how happy it makes me to see a new video up
@Sharauni
@Sharauni 6 ай бұрын
The more I hear about the RCMP the more I believe they just don't give a crap about anyone with native/ethnic blood, unless the family throws a fit and goes public with their criticisms of them. This is ridiculous. Even if there is not foul play they still deserve to be searched for extensively. Both these poor men deserve more, they deserve to be brought back to their families, in whatever way, and to have whatever justice they can get. The RCMP needs to do better.
@madsfiedler3884
@madsfiedler3884 6 ай бұрын
same thing here in the states, but its defo something ive always heard about the RCMP, the plain refusal to consider a crime can happen to any indigenous person when theres the vague (usually ignorant of some evidence) possibility they just wandered off into the woods or ran away ^-^ -_-
@patricknoveski6409
@patricknoveski6409 6 ай бұрын
They need to have a law suit thrown at them.
@iciajay6891
@iciajay6891 6 ай бұрын
​@@patricknoveski6409it won't go anywhere
@iciajay6891
@iciajay6891 6 ай бұрын
The RCMP were used as a paramilitary force to 'control' indigenous ppl historically. And were/ are responsible for a LOT of violence against indigenous pl. They were used to force kids to go to residential schools. Were they were legally mandated to kidnap indigenous kids and bring them to those school. They have a long history of sexual violence. Against all women. And especially Indigenous woman and girls. They are corrupt af. And often do more harm to ppl then good. As all cops were created to protect property of those in power. Not ppl.
@volatilesky
@volatilesky 6 ай бұрын
@@patricknoveski6409 They've investigated themselves multiple times and found no wrongdoing!
@xeveserpere5509
@xeveserpere5509 6 ай бұрын
One of the hardest working true crime/mystery youtubers out there. The research, narration, 3d animations, etc. This is incredible quality stuff. Great video!
@FlexBeanbag
@FlexBeanbag 6 ай бұрын
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@laurareeves9754
@laurareeves9754 Ай бұрын
Great video. Awesome really. My stomach was in a knot at the beginning of the video. The tension is unbelievable. UNBELIEVABLE. AMAZING. Thank you.
@happyhoundz
@happyhoundz 5 ай бұрын
I am a new sub. What an excellent, well done doc. What a bummer..😮 The bummer beam that now I realize I will be putting aside most of my schedule don't for other things to dive been to all This stuff on your channel!!😅 AND....I can't wait. Well done.🎉
@silenttoxic707
@silenttoxic707 6 ай бұрын
Can't wait to dive in Broski
@yaxxm619
@yaxxm619 6 ай бұрын
I am never shocked when I see videos on Canadian true crime that are classified by police as 'not suspicious' especially when the circumstances are so outlandish... its such a common theme here and it's so sad that we as a country and as communities pay taxes to employ these people and they can't/won't seek justice even a little bit... the deaths that have not be solved and have even been CAUSED by police negligence is so disgusting and sad...
@AB-by8xu
@AB-by8xu 6 ай бұрын
Money and ressources are limited here in Canada for investigations ,it is sad , this was a tough area to search and privacy laws makes it difficult to follow any cases here ,even if the public wants to help , not enough infos are public compare to the state , but we are a big country but only 40 millions spread from east to west , compare to the states ..they have areas that contains more people than in our entire country ! They have way more ressources and money and police forces !
@canadaman301
@canadaman301 6 ай бұрын
​@@AB-by8xuI think a lot of people don't realize that it's not necessarily a "cop" thing, it's a "money" thing. Cops in rural areas like this have massive caseloads, and there's no 'Detectives' to take on these missing person Investigations. The same cops who respond to your regular disturbances and break-ins and whatnot also are responsible for these Investigations, and there's nobody else they can pass the buck to. So if the basic search doesn't reveal any substantial evidence or further leads, it's file closed and onto the next.
@marekcarlisle6937
@marekcarlisle6937 6 ай бұрын
beautiful quality, and inspiring writing. i love your content.
@katescott8214
@katescott8214 5 ай бұрын
Either police are investigating and do not want to compromise what could be a huge operation undercover involving other authorities or they are covering up something they themselves might be involved in.
@Detstorm
@Detstorm 6 ай бұрын
Holy crap I've been on this trail before, always wondered what the truck was about. Didn't know there was such a story behind it. Just one update after watching the video, the Waddington Hut trail and the Tolkien mountain range above aren't wholly unknown to hikers, especially students of University of British Columbia where the Varsity Outdoors Club stems from. I encountered three other groups during my hike there last year in the early fall. There's a chance the evidence was tampered by another hiker coming through to the hut. The club has records of lodgings that are paid for, perhaps they have history of who went through the trail in the relevant dates? Incredible video!
@pullt
@pullt 6 ай бұрын
A guy who was known to have a neat, organized vehicle also had a storage unit in a state where he'd need 2.5 hours to find something?
@SofaKingShit
@SofaKingShit 24 күн бұрын
Ir seems like 2.5 hours would be exactly the amount of time someone would need to get really, really high during an extremely stressful situation. He apparently waited desperately outside in tge cold for hours before dawn to access a storage unit, a unit where he could have stashed a large amount that he was possibly skimming from. Then he went missing after being seen with a potential drug enforcer. Just a hypothetical.
@villanelle8888
@villanelle8888 28 күн бұрын
Very well edited and narrated documentary on this case. Had me hooked from the start.
@KGero478
@KGero478 5 ай бұрын
This is a thrilling and puzzling case it is beyond bizarre. I hope it will be resolved someday. I've subscribed and will be waiting for more videos.
@Fispell
@Fispell 6 ай бұрын
Police in BC being incompetent is not surprising. We have multiple active serial killers and the police and government refuse to respond in any way. Hundreds of innocent women lost.
@AlwaysEast
@AlwaysEast 6 ай бұрын
Maybe if you'd all read the map properly, or learned to use a GPS.
@cherylcampbell9369
@cherylcampbell9369 6 ай бұрын
@@AlwaysEast You definitely have lost your moral compass.
@Mcguirk_
@Mcguirk_ 6 ай бұрын
​@@AlwaysEastyou sound like serial killer
@PaulTomblin
@PaulTomblin 6 ай бұрын
The police aren’t incompetent, they just don’t give a shit about First Nations people.
@HomelessWhiteMaleStartingOvera
@HomelessWhiteMaleStartingOvera 6 ай бұрын
Funny how when RCMP was 100% white males they were the best in the world. Now that diversity rules, they are terrible. Women like you completely fail to comprehend it is women like you voting far left that is the problem.
@KSharpei
@KSharpei 6 ай бұрын
This is why we love Barely. A relatively well covered story approached from different angles and told in such a compelling fashion.
@l.l.-kz7mn
@l.l.-kz7mn Күн бұрын
I just came across this channel and I love the way you tell your stories
@Arenor104
@Arenor104 6 ай бұрын
Wow, that's one hell of a mystery. Can't imagine losing a family member like that and not knowing a single clue as to what happened. I've heard a lot of stories of people just going missing, but rarely do they have this many questions. Great vid man
@chrisnott1970
@chrisnott1970 6 ай бұрын
I've hiked that trail a number of times and have seen the slow disintegration of Marshal's truck. At the time of the disappearances, it appears that the road was considered 4WD only if you wanted to reach the end (more recent logging has improved the road quality but stops about 200m short of where the truck rests). The whole road is almost 6km long. If there were two vehicles (which seems likely in order to take the driver and steering column away), it would have taken some time to drive up, destroy the vehicle, and drive back down again. The trail doesn't see huge traffic but it is well known and it is not unknown for hikers to do an early winter trip to the cabin at the same time of year as the disappearances - including hiking up at night. So the perpetrators were taking a pretty big risk to use this road as their dumping area (this is, by far, the most out-of-the-way dump I've seen - other wrecks I have seen have usually been just a km or so up a logging road or even right on the main road). There's a not insignificant risk of someone seeing them on their way in or out. So they knew the area well enough to know that there was a road there but probably not well enough to know that the road was in poor shape or that it was well travelled.
@XX-yh4fq
@XX-yh4fq 4 ай бұрын
Oh my man. I haven't checked on your channel in years. WHOA!! Look at you go! Congratulations man! You know I always had my theory about you but wow! Impressive! Keep on chugging along mi compadre on this carousel of life.
@HistoryMystery989
@HistoryMystery989 2 ай бұрын
Really great video! Much respect for your work!
@JMiN___
@JMiN___ 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the community of you and Nexpo and the others are all trying to upstage eachother with better editing in each new video y’all put out and I’m in love with it Also the RCMP are famous for being horrible when it comes to suspicious disappearances. Like it’s weird how much they seem to always want to cover suspicious disappearances up
@krautroach514
@krautroach514 6 ай бұрын
The RCMP is a joke of an organization that's been reduced to condecending idiots at best, and arrogant thugs at worst
@janemiettinen5176
@janemiettinen5176 6 ай бұрын
And both boys were indigenous, that makes the RCMP even less interested. Missing persons can be hard to investigate, I get it, but so many times these red coats cant be bothered to do even simple stuff, when it comes to providing answers for families. Trying to shame them to work for their paychecks seems to be the only way.. still, in 2023.
@nintendianajones64
@nintendianajones64 6 ай бұрын
Nexpo is trash
@JMiN___
@JMiN___ 6 ай бұрын
@@janemiettinen5176 yeah for sure. I live in the US and even I’m aware at how seemingly open of a secret it is that RCMP simply just do not give a fuck about missing indigenous people. And it’s been for a while to the point that it seems almost hopeless at this point that it will ever change, which is genuinely so sad.
@ryanpantaleo7427
@ryanpantaleo7427 6 ай бұрын
Facts, there are still elements of racism in the RCMP when it comes to indigenous peoples.
@MajinMattPlays
@MajinMattPlays 6 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up in a part of the US with a lot of drug trafficking largely due to the combined proximity to the border and lesser acknowledged status of my home state compared to others, it's easy for someone to get dragged into the drug trade, whether they like it or not sometimes. I can't really speak for what these men went through, but it sounds like "Tying up loose ends" to me, and it's tragic if that is what happened. Now we can only pray their families get closure.
@thewritinglefty4889
@thewritinglefty4889 6 ай бұрын
How does one get dragged in to the drug trade? That's surprising
@Thunderous333
@Thunderous333 6 ай бұрын
​@@thewritinglefty4889buying drugs and then when you're hooked you're probably going to become indebted to them. Don't pay the debts? Well, too bad. This whole story sounds like he got involved with drugs, got hooked, got indebted (stopped going to college cause of either no money or drug habit was taking over), and couldn't pay.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 6 ай бұрын
Easy: The lure of easy money, and a lot of bills to pay...Sounds like they were just mules, and a shipment got stolen...For people that doesn't happen to without people dying...It becomes more about the message, than the drugs that were lost...
@realcanadiangirl64
@realcanadiangirl64 6 ай бұрын
@Mijinmatt I'm from the same city as Marshall as well in his missing Facebook page. There are many comments from his family and friends saying that Marshall wasn't a drug user.
@brentfarvors192
@brentfarvors192 6 ай бұрын
@@realcanadiangirl64 One doesn't need to use drugs to traffic them...Did he gamble??? That could also explain his disappearance...Basically, the police will NEVER investigate unless whatever illegal he was mixed up with is known...Someone in his circle of friends knows more than they are letting on...
@user-yg1dg6xm2g
@user-yg1dg6xm2g 6 ай бұрын
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@JosephJonesboy88
@JosephJonesboy88 5 ай бұрын
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@simplyixia3683
@simplyixia3683 6 ай бұрын
The hikers who found the truck said they had an eerie feeling. I think there was probably someone still there. They could’ve hid because they would’ve heard the hikers’ vehicle coming. They watched the hikers and the hikers left shortly after. Then the person emerged and destroyed evidence further, just in case. After that they took off, knowing the hikers would have contacted law enforcement.
@chrisnott1970
@chrisnott1970 6 ай бұрын
This location is quite remote. About an hour's drive from the closest public transit to take a perpetrator away. The hike back down to the Blackwater road is 6km. But the Blackwater road itself dead-ends at a park another 2km along. So you'd have to go another 13.5km in the other direction to get to the highway where you can consider yourself escaped. If there was a car parked along this route, I'm pretty sure the hikers who discovered the crime scene would have noted that. And people live along the Blackwater (not many, but some) and they might have noticed someone walking down the road. A second car most likely drove up with the victims. I don't know what to make of the disturbed evidence.
@proosee
@proosee 6 ай бұрын
I mean... do you really need anything else than burned car and personal items tossed around to have eerie feeling? IDK, maybe I live in a quiet neighbourhood, but it would be quite eerie for me as I've never seen such thing in my life.
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 6 ай бұрын
It depends on the person, but my instincts usually give me a good vibe if there is someone watching me or closeby, things like my neck hair standing up and a slight noise of electricity inside my ears. Living in town it gets dulled but the moment we leave for the wild it really shows. So I wonder if that was the eerie feeling, being a hiker tends to give you that awareness. Most likely though, they saw the scene and instantly thought of drug related killing, so they knew they better leave asap or get killed as well. Then the perpetrators saw that people were about and decided to go back and erase any evidence. If someone was up on the valley, they could see the hikers from a long distance too.
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