The PERFECT Map For The Perma-Spike... (Bloons TD 6)

[@BTDIsab]

Not shown here, but the recent update added a bloon speed modifier for tracks that can go as slow as 50% speed... so expect future tests to go even further than we're already seeing lol. Check out more max buffed (and perfect map) tower showcases in this playlist here: kzbin.info/aero/PLcT6C3pFUi81VRUDOiFrJt8S5rLuVm_1z

[@Mynameisreaper]

Thanks, I didn’t want to sleep tonight anyway.

[@zizikim3174]

thank you isab for preparing the perfect map for the perma-spike

[@That0nekid12]

why tf does it say the video was posted 14 minutes ago but this comment was 46 minute ago

[@Y_o_r_u]

​@@That0nekid12he wrote it before the video become public

[@Mico-fx4dc]

Striker Jones?

[@Mrcat41]

if only perm spike was actually permanent

[@Manic_Eraser]

They should change the name to barely almost permanent spike

[@BananaFarmer16]

​@@Manic_EraserSpikes with 300 seconds life time

[@Manic_Eraser]

@@BananaFarmer16 what

[@whatiskz1557]

One problem is, when projectiles count goes high, the frame per second won't be so pretty.

[@dwarian5252]

@@whatiskz1557 I don't think permaspike would get close to the amount needed to slow the game down. just a single carpet of spikes I think would have more projectiles than the current max of a permaspike.

[@RonZhang]

What about Striker’s Level 9+ permanent +25% pierce? Is it better than Fusty’s damage buff on a 10 damage tower? 50 pierce to 62.5 pierce pile would be nuts

[@catchthispilebunker21447]

Exactly what I was thinking when he said "Pat is the best hero" the calc just kinda says better

[@BTDIsab]

forgor

[@buhbuhsuh4696]

@@BTDIsabvalid

[@Mikustan39]

⁠@@BTDIsabThat is the most ISAB response ever.

[@lightninghelmet2798]

​@@BTDIsab😢😭

[@yuanwang9324]

Geraldo spikes are more permanent than Perma-spike 🗣️🗣️ spread the word and bring justice for perma-spike

[@Sentiie]

Power spikes!!!!!

[@kaboomer]

The only tower that can last longer than sauda

[@ClubstepMonsterOfficial]

Is your mom.

[@Trash_owo]

You're talking about Sauda's level 3 ability right 😀😀😀😀😀

[@Techmoblad]

Even a 0-0-0 dart can last longer than me if i'm with sauda, and that's on god

[@nguyentandung42]

@@Techmobladon which god

[@JoeyMx]

@@TechmobladDefinitely a virgin. Don’t lie. 😂😊

[@AltraHapi]

Congrats on 700k!

[@PoopyMcStinkertons]

Dang a donation yet basically no recognition. I'm here though! Hope this comment blows up!

[@Slikeen]

Fr ​@@PoopyMcStinkertons

[@yuanwang9324]

This person is a channel member and donoing, ISAB you better reply

[@nlnjawacky]

Thank you ISAB for perfectly edging the bloons with the perma-spike

[@hamberberiscoolg]

man i love edging (joke)

[@luviana_]

kinda annoyed that the map doesn't look like the thumbnail but to be completely fair the actual best map for Perma-Spike looks ugly as hell so i understand the clickbait

[@goddosyourself7970]

It looks fine you must be projecting

[@blonkonups]

@@goddosyourself7970projecting bro are u brain dead

[@Nyxie6666]

​@@goddosyourself7970dawg what, the perfect map looks really ugly

[@goddosyourself7970]

@@Nyxie6666 you have no taste

[@SomberSky]

​@@goddosyourself7970 Love it so much better put a ring on it

[@dracozon6625]

ISAB never fails to ruin my sleep schedule

[@FYZZUMP]

Fr I was literally about to go to sleep😂

[@Y_o_r_u]

For me, isab never fail to give me something to watch when im about to eat my lunch

[@the_dripgoku]

Nah bc why am I actually watching this at 2:14 am

[@kevinlandry1908]

If you were already up past midnight, I think that's on you my guy 😭

[@milchi5122]

@@Y_o_r_u facts. im always pissed at days when he doesnt upload

[@tc.2975]

I feel like you could take this a little further by utilizing slows like absolute zero, super glue, and even bloon sabo's. This just lending more time for the piles to accumulate before DDT's and smaller MOABs hit, since this seems be what ends the run currently, rather than the much slower BADs, which the piles still have time to tank.

[@turtley8581]

I believe the other max buff videos don't use slowdowns, so he didn't use them here

[@porkeyminch8044]

@@turtley8581 And I would argue that he should have been using at least MOAB glue from the very beginning.

[@Barely_Edited]

@@porkeyminch8044I would argue he should stay consistent with the other tests, only seems fair

[@porkeyminch8044]

@@Barely_Edited The first few of these ISAB did had a maximum of 32 nodes, so it's unfair that he's using 48 for the ones after it. And in his pinned comment he says he'll be making use of the new 50% speed modifier in the future, making them even more unfair. All that aside you missed my point; I think he should have been using moab glue from the very first test, meaning it would always be fair game.

[@oilflanker]

iirc absolute zero doesn't work since permaspike can't pop frozen bloons

[@TheePepsiMan]

I can’t believe isab is able to last four rounds or 300 seconds

[@Max-zo6rv]

Broooooo 💀

[@RonZhang]

Permaspike optimisations on maps sounds more comprehensive than I thought

[@grimreaper1542]

This is the most P-Spike micro I've ever seen

[@VictorVonMusics]

ISAB there is a mod in btd6 that made a god village that gives every buff like ultra boost, MIB, god temple, and all the others you should use this so you can get a accurate pop count for the T5 tower of choice

[@1qazxsw23edcish]

Im curious what effect (if any) adding a moab glue would have, yes it would not do anyhting to the BADs but it may make the DDTs slow enough to add a few rounds.

[@hoatrinh3256]

CONGRATS for 700k sub ISAB. I've been watching you since KOTH from battles flash and it has been amazing for every video i watch. Thank you ISAB

[@Shishkablob]

i think mortar would be a little interesting. since range is global, you could get minimal pops on other towers. i would also assume striker jones to be the best hero because of his military buff and his target focus and artillery command abilities.

[@memesfrommycomputer]

my favourite part of this video is when isab lathered himself with nutella and did a tribal dance all over the floor

[@brandonbombplays9304]

Oh yeah that was at 18:59

[@KeeboReebo]

😟

[@henryr9346]

thats so scary!!!!

[@3000shifty]

650 hours and had no idea pat could be placed on water, thanks!, learn something new every day.

[@stinker6784]

how

[@3000shifty]

@@stinker6784 I've used Pat maybe once, ever.

[@stinker6784]

@@3000shifty lol fair

[@froggie610]

I can't wait for the Supermines best map test. I'd imagine it to be at its best if there is just room for a singular spike factory in a circle in the middle of the map.

[@mr.tunasocks6498]

Congrats on 700K!

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

Best map for Carpet of Spikes would probably be something about as short as the Blons map...

[@kofatheballer5539]

Striker jones could have been a better hero since he now gives +25% permanent pierce to all towers in range. For spfac that’s basically +25% damage

[@dwebthedweeb419]

I love falling asleep just to be woken up by the isab notification at eleven p m. Then of course I have to watch the video. Love the stuff, Keep up the amazing work.

[@SnackGuy2Star]

Cool video showcasing Pat Fusty's Level 10 ability

[@FurryNonsense]

The Sun God Temple did most of the work

[@mousepoison1668]

i really like the tailored map chimp runs! please keep doing them! love the content!

[@lilacocto9103]

I'm giving Bloons TD 6 a 0/10 for misleading all of us into thinking the Perma Spikes were actually permanent.

[@GlitchSaboteur]

Congratulations on 700,000, ISAB!! This’ll leave a permanent mark on the channel.

[@dyland.4652]

Mr. SAB you gotta be kididng me bro

[@rock_iz]

HAPPY 700k SUBS!!

[@PotatoMan-lx4fw]

11:26 the most satisfying moab oval

[@thegreatautismo224]

Thank you ISAB for displaying for us the strength of your S. Perma

[@paradoxpink3434]

10:06 what happened to the dps counter

[@sewer56lol]

Would Druid Lightning (220) also not be a good deregrow instead of multiple engi? Might not contribute much to the temple sack, but it's not hugely costly either.

[@jibranbasil]

130 better imo

[@VapourWav3]

The issue was solved by getting sun avatar anyways, so, it would be more efficient to just not spam engi or use a druid and just get sun avatar quickly.

[@jibranbasil]

@@VapourWav3 sun avatar's expensive

[@ASerokai]

Definitely THE perfect map for Pat Fusty Jokes aside, this kinda proves that Perma Spactory really is a support tower xD

[@PrestigiousPenguin-nc5os]

I think striker Jones might be better as a hero, because of the recent change of giving Pierce to everyone in range.

[@LeeTheSecond]

Jones BBQ and foot massage

[@zephiro745]

My cat loves watching your videos with me, we watch them all every day. Thank you

[@levibruner7553]

If the spread was random, the DDTs wouldn't get through because they would hit spikes no matter what. That said, they would hit fewer spikes at once, so they could slip by if the spike pile wasn't strong enough overall.

[@GoatingVirtual]

Queue the apology video for not using Striker with P. Spike

[@kibainuzuka7417]

The king has posted!

[@tallspy7150]

If i remember correctly, striker jones has a level that grants 25%pierce to all towers in range.

[@sir.cornyneck3960]

You'd technically lose the pop count on perma, but you could use that smart spikes glitch to permanently boost its attack speed. The glitch is when you place a smart spikes spactory and in the middle of its attack speed buff at the start of the round you sell it and buy a different tower. Then that new tower inherites the attack speed til another tower is placed I don't think they fixed it

[@spok_real]

I thought they fixed that a while ago, plus it's chimpe

[@sir.cornyneck3960]

Ah right. Forgot it was chimps lol. I thought they kept the bug in, but maybe I missed some patch notes

[@CrayCray264]

now we need a smart spikes buff that allows you to choose the position of where the spikes land

[@Beast10x1]

You should do tests like this where only BAD damage matters, and you have towers than can clean up insides without doing too much damage. (bloon crush, glue, ect) because in late game that is ususally what counts more than ddts or zomg

[@TheMrSword]

Won’t it work just as well if the tower can’t build up spikes and does damage along the way? The damage is still being done and every spike will get its damage in anyways, having perks in the back just prolongs it, right?

[@corrymuth2997]

Regrows I guess

[@adamseddon2533]

This way it doesn’t waste spikes on stuff that is gonna die anyway like to pat, while still building up a decent pile for things that make it to the exit, and also can still focus down the BADs.

[@TheMrSword]

@@adamseddon2533 yeah, but isn’t the challenge to maximize the perma spike damage and lower the damage of other towers as much as possible? Also regrows don’t even come out and you could just use a bunch of grow blocker if necessary (it’s pretty cheap)

[@MoonNooodles]

Wouldn't it be better to just make a huge map and have a permaspike just do damage instead of waiting for them to pile up

[@GamingWithNikolas]

Stricker Johns? Spike factorys love peirce dont they?

[@__needmorepower]

one of these challenges should feature the fan club with unstable concoction itd be fun to see the chains

[@thenecromancer4113]

I’d love to see some paragons. Specifically engi paragon interests me, because you need to think about the sentries.

[@greenmarble638]

Wouldnt it be the same as having a normal longest map with the permaspike hitting the bads on every loop? The spikes do the same damage, doesnt matter if they do it all at once every 7 loops or 7 times, once every loop. As long as there are no spikes left when a bloon leaks, then no damage was wasted. Here you have both a slightly shorter map, and some chances for the permaspikes to despawn.

[@huz653]

You kinda sound like Hikaru Nakamura ngl

[@drillegg5784]

perfect map for carpet would be really interesting since you would have to make it small enough to maximize all the spikes

[@bounce1082]

Would striker be better? I know he gives +20% pierce

[@henrygabriel2527]

only ISAB could make a challenge that requires spike factory micro

[@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK]

As we go on, and as you often showcase, we need to get some free ability bots or at least something that can do that legitimately in game

[@KitsuneFutekina]

Rare case of ISAB clickbaiting

[@blazin9634]

Congrats on 700k ISAB 🥰

[@lexful1598]

congrats on 700k!

[@TsczhabyCC]

Not only did he forgor Striker, he didn't even try relentless to slow and stun the DDT chains 😭😭

[@AtMix_]

I’m not sure if this would’ve helped, but a sabotage or absolute zero seemed like it would do a lot btw 700k subs congrats

[@matthewdutton9910]

Yesssssss. Loving this series.

[@Qaos]

Super Mines would go crazy on that map

[@HK_BLAU]

i think blooncin would go super hard in this series

[@MockySocky]

Congrats on 700k subscribers

[@trueiliasdim]

You need to redo the crossbow master with 48 nodes, will definately last longer.

[@ianjohnson218]

Another fun test! Next time you do one of these, I vote you do top path engineer!

[@brettdanenberg4540]

Congrats on 700k subs dude

[@m9wn_]

congrats on 7 subs

[@Furretarepikmin]

Thank isab, how testing how far all the towers can go on your really long maps.

[@huz653]

Why is the way you talk and a little of your voice sound like Hikaru Nakamura 💀

[@danieljmarvin]

You could also use 030 druid to stop regrow farm.

[@flyindanskmen7317]

I feel like a moab glue would be nice to help buy time with DDTs.

[@dsoap8907]

I love it when Isab

[@PandaAsInTheCuteAnimal]

3 sabos for perma uptime? 0-2-5 glue? basically all the slowdowns in the game to easily fix the DDT speed issue, plus the pierce+range+projectile spd of the p.mentoring plus the atk spd+pierce of the homeland would ensure that the glue would hit pretty much everything...

[@SpyderTekk]

Would you say making the closer loops added 13 cycles in shoots your damage in the foot a bit? We saw at the beginning that the spikes expired before a bad got to the closer loop and given the perma spikes shooting a ton more spikes at the beginning of the round you get a more dense clump of spikes at the opening of the round that’ll expire before they’re used up.

[@MrEddie4679]

Wouldnt it be more effective making it the longest map still with no diverging path? beacuse it would always use up the spike pile but still allow maximum time for production. And it would also be alot faster than bloons needing to go through alot of lopps before a single damage is made.

[@Aaxolotl.]

I’m curious what a map for the antibloon would look like. Does having 2 different targeting options change the potential strategies or is it the same big oval?

[@kuebel_ben]

Would be cool if there is a mod, which makes that super monkeys cant attack. So you could boost them, without they stealing pops

[@thanhtamnguyenthi7073]

basically the invert of blons

[@primedestroyers2170]

I'm surprised no ones made a mod for you that let's you select what buffs you want to give to a tower without placing other towers

[@Zeldrake]

Was surprised you didn't go for a 220 druid for the regrows

[@amitaisaiger8784]

super mines would be a good one to try next i think

[@dth99times]

I would've expected Striker Jones to be the best with spac after the buff

[@ninja666gaming]

sentry champ would be cool for this

[@hillrp1]

Would a 023 or 024 glue have potentially slowed down the DDTs? Maybe giving the P-spike more time to add spikes, but more importantly potentially slowing them down enough to not skip the spike piles? (I-Impale also, but a) he couldn't have afforded that and b) that would have done a lot of damage)

[@Idc08-xv7qv]

It would, though this challenge series have a rule of only using buffs ( temple, brew, oc/ub, cta/homeland, gizer and so on ) after all of those it's mostly just damage givers like sbrit and glorm. There's cripple which could help with the ddts while also counting as a damage giver so I'm not sure why he went with sbrit first considering BAD insides were his problems.

[@hanhao263]

happy 700.000 subscribers

[@x-crimson-x]

Best map for super mine cus they end up exploding and damaging everything anyways

[@levisammler6871]

ISAB reached 700k!🥳

[@vojtaczkn5173]

Nice, now make a perfect map for Kylie Boomerang

[@cena3133]

The ray of doom map

[@dnr-vs1lk]

Striker jones is going to file a malicious false copyright strike against this video because you forgot about him being the best support hero in the game with his universal and permanent 25% pierce increase

[@Zenith-ly7pr]

I want to see Carpet of Spikes' perfect map.

[@mrziiz6893]

Wait permaspikes aren’t permanent? I’ve been sold a lie.

[@sonjahernandez8465]

i remember when perma could eat to moabs

[@dentylad_plays7159]

for max buffing things now would u not have to get the sub paragon?

[@caio7208]

i miss when Pat Fusty oneshoted BADs

[@MrCiasbert]

did maybe the moab glue / relentless help to slow ddt because due to its high speed it will slow it, and this could help to make more dps

[@Nyxie6666]

yeah i feel like striker is better here considering how good pierce is on spactory

[@the_circleguy]

Video Idea: only use perma spike to win 250

[@king.shen1]

I’m just thinking and maybe I’m wrong wouldn’t the spike factory be fine on the outer ring? I mean it gets all of its spikes used and has no potential lost