The Phantom 85 V1 by ZTMoto. The largest bike engine on the market! First look and tear down

[@Nickael7]

I LOVE 2 STROKE ENGINES !!!

[@americanpatriot212]

These Phantom motors are blowing up Left & right. I know 4 people personally who got ripped for 300 spent hours installing getting stranded and hours tearing down the motor. They aren't happy they aren't lasting long at all

[@joneserupinsmoke9161]

Hell yea me too bro

[@unknown-me6hu]

@@americanpatriot212 lol sucks 2 suck 😂😂😂

[@unknown-me6hu]

@@americanpatriot212 how about yall build your engine correctly and don't push it past its limits. Dum dum 😂😂😂

[@demonic2534]

@@americanpatriot212I don’t belive that lol zeda is known for over heating my friend has issues plus u need to keep em at 20mph breaking it two tanks ur Doing something wrong an it don’t take hours to tear down lol I can tests down engine in 10-15 mins lol

[@abikelife1481]

Yessir standard chainsaw design. The piston acts as the bottom of the transfer ports when at bottom dead center, fuel mix sliding by the piston itself and up into the cylinder transfer.

[@LAHover]

Yup, and the "wings" on the bottom of the cylinder are simply there to seal off the case where the old transfers would be... I am wondering if filling the old case transfers would act like case stuffing. As of right now they are just empty space, but I don't know if the outcome would be positive or negative.

[@abikelife1481]

@@LAHover yeah give it a try! If you have an old YD case to experiment with. My hypothesis is that it would not hurt anything at all, perhaps even improve a little bit. I think it would aid to keep gas concise, dense, directed, and channeled with shortest route possible up to the cylinder. Maybe even increase compression a bit like you mentioned similiar to stuffing. But I dont know, I dont have one of these bad boys, so I am just working off of the short videos I have seen and my imagination. Idk, maybe the case transfer ramps there are actually beneficial with this cylinder, allowing like a staging area for gas to hangout before entering cylinder. Maybe one stroke pulls gas from intake into bottom of the case and transfers etc, then the second stroke pulling gas from that upper area transfer ramps area into the cylinder. Lol I have no clue, just imagining and hypothesizing but it is fun to think about. Makes sense this engine is a great performing since that old saying "no replacement for displacement" I bet they will continue to make these top end kits a hair bigger, a hair bigger, every couple of years to squeeze out every penny, rather than making a big jump up to a 100cc and missing out on all the purchases in between.

[@lastoppertunity333]

I'm thinking filling them would be a positive thing that's wat they did back in the day on 2stroke cases to make more compression

[@nautastro1503]

We were waiting for it ..!

[@darcyhemeon4309]

Great Video as always Alex .. your very professional and entertaining , awesome job !!!

[@beast15204]

What happened to you putting this motor on a bike and testing it out? I would like to see the results

[@MotoredLife]

Ok gotcha!

[@beast15204]

@@MotoredLife how's the bike with this motor on it coming? Can't wait to see this beast in action

[@sammymarquez9942]

I'm ready for my 3 Rd 80 CC give me info please

[@johnathanashley2752]

I love how well you executed this.. most people don't have good skills with presentations

[@LAHover]

I think the box top you found in your kit is for the piston. Witch is good news because those are cheap and easy to find. I have been looking back and forth at ms460s and although the cylinder design is similar, there are some major casting differences made to this one in order for it to be a direct bolt on cylinder. Thanks for the video!

[@thomasardizzone531]

Hey, it's you

[@LAHover]

@@thomasardizzone531 :)

[@serenityk2tu749]

Hey!! I love your videos thx for the content

[@jerryb1234]

Great video as usual Alex, I only wish you'd do them more often, thanks for sharing.

[@christopherjacquez8605]

So is this engine good to take on long trips? Is it reliable built good? Also do you know of water cooling kit systems for this type of engine?

[@abikelife1481]

Lol you call the electric stuff "goofiness" props to you for that one, 2 stroke 4 lyfe G! Very nice to finally see a piston fully clear exhaust port!

[@ghostrider433]

Instantaneous torque from the rip with high speeds and silent operation for not pissing neighbors and people off, is goofy? I love engines as much as the next guy, i have a 2jz in my car and have always loved automotive but electric sccoters, boards, unicycles, and bikes these days are absolutely ridiculous for no reason lmao

[@dieselgeezer18]

@@ghostrider433 electrics are boring imo as a car enthusiast. A proper 2 stroke makes more power and is lighter compared to an electric

[@dieselgeezer18]

@@southtexasspecials175 i've seen custom electric builds with powerful motors. Yes they make tons of power but they have VERY limited range, the charging process is slow and adding more batteries makes the bike very heavy. If we compare those super expensive electric builds to these cheap 2 stroke china dolls its also not fair. A Yamaha YZ250 2 stroke engine makes 50HP and with the gas tank will be much lighter than an electric build of comparable power, plus you will have much higher range and no waiting to charge.

[@isaiahirish6501]

@@southtexasspecials175 that is true like if you run a 3000 watt 72 volt motor on a bike you can hit 65 easy and pop wheelies

[@isaiahirish6501]

@@dieselgeezer18 I mean if something goes 60mph and it lasts an hour then that's not that limited but then again you have to factor in mah and what type batteries you use

[@Bull3tBikes]

I wonder if filling those transfer ports would Improve efficiency, it’s really just dead space adding to case volume

[@LAHover]

I was just wondering the same. Good eye

[@artofdisguy3401]

Definitely help, all that space could be filled in, but now I'm wondering what about opening the transfers to the jug and matching it to the crank case???

[@TrustPro2024]

@@artofdisguy3401 that's the move myguy

[@trevinskiking2165]

Bullet...it's called FILING not filling; the transfer ports as you say look to be partially closed off by the Crankcase.Grinding there to a polish should definitely help..Trev New Zealand 😊🇳🇿

[@Bull3tBikes]

@@trevinskiking2165 you’re incorrect bruv try again! 🇦🇺

[@motorizedbicyclenation53cu90]

How the clutch is it a better or as good as the bt100 clutch?

[@artofdisguy3401]

I have several motors and for some reason the BT clutch plates or disc are all thicker and have crosshatching and vent holes none of the other motors have that

[@willardbuchanan9122]

Good morning Alex nice new engine I like

[@mrsrabbit2712]

Been wanting to make my first cafe racer moto-bike to piss off the Snooty E-Bikers downtown, and I think this may be it! Looking forward to your follow-up video. Hope to see any proper mods that you suggest, as I'm gonna have to take it to a shop, and I need to make a list of things to be done. I really like your presentation style. Thank you!

[@abikelife1481]

Oh yeah it will piss off snooty people. Some women plug their ears when i ride passed lol.

[@Nickael7]

YES, THat's the Spirit !!! Screw these Snooty e-Tards.

[@mrsrabbit2712]

Lol thanks, yeah, it is quite fun to ruffle the fragile faux-feather plumes atop their lofty heads!

[@theenzoferrari458]

Wait till you see my hybrid bike. Gas rear wheel, front E-hub. While you run out of gas I'm still running on electric. When your at a stop I'm leaving you in the dust with electric launch assist because instant torque. Pissing off everyone at night? Turn off the engine and cruise stealth style. Best of both worlds, twice the fun.

[@mrsrabbit2712]

@@theenzoferrari458 this sounds like the best of both worlds! Right on, I'll have to do the same. Thank you

[@ELISRACINGTEAM]

Have one on the way , this video had me buy this engine look beautiful.thanks you guys

[@geoffsides408]

Hi..... You said that you cut the white wire off. Why?..... What is it there for?... thank

[@kjsmolik]

The white wire is supposed to be for lights but it kills power to the engine if you hook anything up to it. It's just normal practice to just cut it off.

[@LanceAlot247]

Building my first one this month, wish me luck!!

[@annebarrett3879]

always good to see you doing your thing bro keep up the good work

[@justincunningham8885]

Is it possible to flip the jug so the carb is up front

[@MotoredLife]

You could, but the case at the bottom doesn't really line up and the reed valve would prevent any ram air effect but yeah you can do it! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍

[@CEELOCO78]

I need some advice on buy a motor. Something that’s already put together.

[@larryshaver3568]

how much was it? if it's any where near as good as you made it seem i want one

[@americanpatriot212]

299 a bit steep. Imo comes with cheap junk sprocket and chain.

[@johncole8501]

Thanks for videos gizza love these videos, how much is it to buy and can i buy it on line, keep it up thanks 👍

[@michaelluciano7774]

Kool video bro man. I just got my Phantom engine and will be riding it soon. Hopefully it will be epic 😎

[@hiflow39owe]

Thank you for doing this!

[@Sublife8793]

Hey I'm looking to have my phantom 85 repaired. It seized up on break in and wanna get it up and going soon.

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

Are the full kits from Amazon any good for under $200?

[@joshcolbert4682]

hello what all do you grease pre break in out of the box? do you grease the clutch bearings?

[@kjsmolik]

Good job Alex. Can't wait to see a running video.

[@Imageloading...]

Have they dived the rod bushing issue?

[@MotoredLife]

Yes they have the replacement bushings out now. They are releasing the needle bearing version soon!

[@CuciWaterjet]

Brilliant content. They way you film it and explaining is absolutely brilliant!! Subbed and like!

[@robertandreason3218]

How come your motor came fully assembled and mine I have to put the piston rings in the gaskets and all that on there what's the difference

[@MotoredLife]

They come unassembled now. They offer assembly for $30 i think. Better for you that way you know everything is assembled correctly!

[@jeffreystroman2811]

Why do you cut off the white wire at the coil? (Just got my first kit bit have lots of motorcycle maintenance experience) to put a larger wire or to eliminate it all together? I was under the impression you can run a light or perhaps rectify the ac and charge a battery.

[@MotoredLife]

It robs from the power of the spark!

[@rncboy2]

I see a lot of gains to be made with this setup. How they added more meat to the cylinder so you can widen the transfers is a big big plus as well as the intake port angled down. There are a few more pluses I see about this newer style engine that is awesome for the porting nerds.

[@mikemiller3303]

I ordered 1 and it came in yesterday exhust is different doesn't have that little bracing bar on it and mine didn't come with a boefang carburetor it came with a speed carburetor I called the co. bicycle engine they acted like they didn't know what I was talking about I sent them pictures they acknowledged that it was a speed carburetor and not a boefang carburetor and I told them my question was do they both have the same size jet Receptionist said she didn't know and just wished me the best breaking it in?

[@MotoredLife]

Both should come with .65 main jets yup!

[@mikemiller3303]

@@MotoredLife thank you sir I've seen your videos I trust you just don't want any reason for lock up thanks again

[@mikemiller3303]

@@MotoredLife sir I have another question for you about the phantom they say the bottom of the phantom engine is a yd100 on my yd100 the wrest pin bearing is 10mm and on my phantom it's 12mm or did they make 2 different versions?

[@Littleevil9975]

Glad you’re back bro good video thanks

[@jonathanlincolnthefamouszi2137]

Hay I bought a 💯 cc and the bevel teeth are up and pulled out the bar in side that's it's connected to

[@georgeandful]

Hey what's price for the phantom 85cc engine kit

[@brucesnyder7368]

Did your phantom 85 blow up like brtv's and lahover's?

[@marciomaia4020]

Hay great video man. Does the engine come greased?

[@robertandreason3218]

I have a brand new Phantom 85 with the Minnelli exhaust like a mz65 that I'm getting ready to put on a rockhopper any advice that you might have would be greatly appreciated means I've watched your your stuff go really good the last bike I built was a bbr stage 4 with a MZ 65 exhaust and a high-performance carburetor I traded it for a phenomenal radio-controlled gas vehicle that is worth about $4,000 but now I've trying to put this Phantom 85 motor on and I would love to have any advice you have thank you and keep up the good work I love my gas bicycles I will never get rid of them I will continue to build them

[@MotoredLife]

Use 40:1 opti2 oil! You can email me with more questons at [e-mail]

[@SpACeCruizeR2o3]

Best Motor Bike moTor yet pretty solid review man You smoked it !!!!!!

[@diydarkmatter]

pretty excited about this motor . about time they come out with a true any thing motor . all this double cc bs . is it a 60 cc or a 80 cc you know what i mean . this is a game changer next will be a true 100 cc . some one is going to have to start making heavy duty frames for these motors soon . i know there is a couple but there both pretty much the same frame . felt faker frames . personally while i do like the built in tank the frame style its self leaves alot of room for improvement not to mention the price . i have not seen a speed test for these yet but im thinking if it is as powerful as claimed bike frames and wheels are going to be under alot of stress . this motor is one to watch for sure . i do hope they break out with a true 100 cc though that would be awesome .

[@theenzoferrari458]

60cc is Chinese measurement for *80CC* its not that hard to figure out for any single celled amoeba brain.

[@diydarkmatter]

@@theenzoferrari458 well any single celled amoeba brain could figure out what i was talking about to but i understand you fall short in this area . as a American i and all other Americans with half a brain like our sheet to say what it is and be what it says it is . we cant help that the Chinese are a few cc's behind . you pointing out the obvious just proves your intelligence . re read my first comment or have some one explain it for you so you understand it . only a f tard would read what i wrote and not understand what i was talking about . now get back on the porch son adults are talking .

[@mattrenegar476]

Awesome! Great Video Thanks for sharing!!

[@loganwilson5457]

Got the engine, got it on bike, got it started, ran really good, on break in run 2 miles ran smooth, let it cool down, torque the head bolt's, second run 1 mile in lost engine power, not getting spark to the plug, what do I check. I'd Check out all wires & got good connections,

[@MotoredLife]

Take the jug off and see if the rings are ok.

[@loganwilson5457]

Thanks for the heads up, but the engine ended up being a piece of junk.

[@humorrisas22]

Hello , how much the motor ? Where Buy?

[@Rollsjr]

What would be the best motor to have for Speed

[@motorizedbikesar7000]

Alex!!! I need you bro. Where did you get your helmet with the flip visor from... I looked all over Amazon but didn't see it.. help me out with a link please 🥺🥺🥺

[@Motorizedstuff]

When is the next vid

[@DragondekaTS020]

When he gets enough views

[@jameshardeman6590]

Had a chainsaw head and piston put on 59 Allstate moped. Double the power.

[@alfulton5946]

I definitely need this

[@JorgeRodriguez-ei2gi]

Great mr alex on the innovation.. Thanks. Continue.

[@juanhigareda3810]

Good video Im getting mine in a bit

[@Gcrilla]

These 2strokes don't need a resonance chamber?

[@MotoredLife]

They do to really run right. One of the first upgrades for sure!

[@wilsonnegron2693]

Does the yd100 bottom end work good with a shtil 660 jug or would u have to change to a longer stroke

[@GabrielZ.]

Can't wait to see it running, if it's cheap to import here to my country it might just be my first motorized bike project 🤩

[@jemsantosp932]

Can I ask where can I buy that because I want to build my bike to motorized bike,and how much that item

[@michaelbrinks8089]

I wonder if you could drill some holes through the 40mm piston rods on common 66cc/80cc 2 stroke bike engines to lighten them without making them too weak...Iv'e seen some car/motorcycle piston rods online that are drilled/lightened.....I'm guessing enough weight could be drilled out to make a noticeable power difference without it being too weak. A combination of the rods drilled/lightened and few holes in the piston skirt & maybe piston pin to lighten & increase lubrication I bet would help (not on the Phantom engine but other 2 strokes)

[@RonnieMacJr69]

I would agree that jug is definitely a stihl, I’m not sure what the stud spacing is compared to a larger saw like 070,660,090,880 but I’m sure the large jug could be adapted ofcourse dependent on stroke, and case volume. I don’t know much about these bike bottom ends

[@steliosrc1414]

What’s more powerful stock Bt100 or a YD 100

[@blackmotorizadas5281]

Onde consigo comprar um desse?

[@eskabimracing6391]

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[@blackmotorizadas5281]

@@eskabimracing6391 an tá sei kkkkkk, então manda logo um pra mim kkkk

[@mikethesoundgoat3392]

Can I slap this engine on a go kart? If so how fast would I go?

[@TheBigred1781]

I'm wondering if you're gonna have the same issues that seem to be common with these. Like the con rod bushing.

[@georgemort5341]

I wish to buy one of your old bikes

[@MattC78]

Cool I am from Illinois too. Is it legal in this state to ride one of these on the road?

[@deleted203]

Any problems yet? I've seen a few guys post that their bearings on the crank and other stuff have been bad.

[@_k_rolls_turbo_]

What is the best bicycle frame I can build a 29er on ? Thank you

[@patrickwhyte8311]

what part of IL you at?? im up northern IL. glad to see you and Kaos are in IL> makes me happy other people round here enjoy the hobby like i do!! love the bikes and the vids!

[@mikemiller3303]

got another question for you about the phantom how many base gaskets do I need to use I seen someone using none just ultra gray another used 1 and another guy used 2 I was told 1 for more low end torque 2 for more speed what is your opinion sir

[@MotoredLife]

I used two. My opinion about the Phantom is they used the wrong piston. The one that is in it is 2° off in the wrong direction.

[@mikemiller3303]

@@MotoredLife ok will do sir thank you for the info trying to get some longevity from this motor

[@MotoredLife]

@@mikemiller3303 i found out so much info from the person who helped them design them. Sadly flawed by design and requires fabrication to work correctly. Corners cut and rushed production

[@mikemiller3303]

@@MotoredLife I heard through the grapevine that if you change the piston wrest pin and bearing to a stihl and with a window in the piston it fixes the problem I don't know just what I heard

[@MotoredLife]

@@mikemiller3303 that is correct! the other part is you have to shave about 2mm off of the cylinder.

[@justinbutler8416]

What kind of bike frame is that and how does I order one?

[@coothethird]

Any details on the piston? Have been looking to put one of those cylinders on one of my yd100's...

[@Nick-tr2zd]

Great vid!!

[@delmarrey9077]

Is that connecting rod rusty?

[@yourdad1483]

Why do you cut the white wire?

[@luansormani]

great video

[@JMB676]

Holy crap ur back lol jk glad u posted can’t wait to c u rip it and give a real review best KZbinr in our genre

[@DoodMang7]

Do you recommend changing the wrist pin clips on these like the yd100?

[@jeremyclarkson6293]

Yes you should

[@blackswan0017]

Are the stage 6 10 mm wrist pin clips from treatland really good for a Zeda 80 motor?

[@macmotorizedbike3834]

Awesome

[@bw2878mw45]

Yo Alex when u gonna do a build or ride review of that phantom 85 engine bro???👀

[@blablabla10bla]

I've seen 100cc engines would that be faster and better than this? Or should I go with this my bike is a 32" and I weigh 220lbs what would you recommend me do?

[@MotoredLife]

The new version that just came out has better bearing and seems to be a powerhouse. The yd100 is a nice reliable engine that you can get parts for right now.

[@dustinh4175]

At what point do these become mopeds or mitorcycles?

[@ravenchavez5661]

What is the difference between 85 v1 and 85 v3? I was looking for a engine and 85 v3 came out.

[@kx250braap]

Is this a centrifugal clutch or manual ?

[@MotoredLife]

Manual

[@derekpirie9188]

Looks like a strong motor, Alex. The bottom of these engines '' China Doll'' cannot be beaten.

[@JesseJamesArmijo]

What’s the speed like

[@willardbuchanan9122]

Alex they released a phantom 85 with the needle bearing instead of a spacer

[@MotoredLife]

I saw this today! I got in a head on wreck yesterday on my e-bike.

[@willardbuchanan9122]

@@MotoredLife are you okay I'm sorry to hear that

[@willardbuchanan9122]

@@MotoredLife I'm still recovering from my accident last memorial weekend I go back in for surgery in June on my left leg they have to take the screws and plates out and do a knee replacement I'm hoping to get back on the bike eventually

[@willardbuchanan9122]

❤️🙏

[@MotoredLife]

Helmet saved my life

[@joshuamoon8442]

I actually have more of a question how long did it take the shipping

[@MotoredLife]

About 7 days

[@joshuamoon8442]

Reason why I ask is cuz I'm ordering one tomorrow

[@MotoredLife]

@@joshuamoon8442 oh nice! Yeah didn't take too long at all. I expected like a month but nope a week. They have them ready in America

[@joshuamoon8442]

Are you glad you bought it what size sprocket are you using I was thinking of 36 but then at the same time I kind of want my torque so I thought about maybe a between a 40 to 44

[@MotoredLife]

@@joshuamoon8442 I will be using a 40t on a cranny with chopper forks one gal tank. I painted everything like a metallic blood red.

[@codelicious6590]

From the pictures on the website, it looks like the top of the connecting rod uses a bushing rather than a needle bearing, I wish we couldve looked at that in this vid. Wow, as soon as I get my hands on one of these Im gonna fill both those huge cavities in where the transfers match on the standard cylinders and make sure my frickin boots are on TIGHT!!

[@robertandreason3218]

Hey I have a phantom 85 that I had just bought and I can't decipher if it's a version 2 version 3 my intake cover is black not red I have a bearing on the connecting rod not a bushing. I have just put this together and ready to fire it but am reserved to do so from all the stuff I have read. I need advice and should I use 16:1 for my break in and how long

[@MotoredLife]

Ive been using 20:1 on mine for break in. Where did you buy this from?

[@Mr1badseed]

is it normal for the magneto magnet hard to pull out , and what if it pulls rite out without the puller tool ? cause im getting no spark whatsoever .... ive replaced spark plug , cdi and magneto and still no spark . i can only think at this point magneto mag is bad any advise would be great

[@MotoredLife]

Yeah that should be fine but I will tell you I have seen some magnets in backwards your keyway should be at 2oclock

[@Mr1badseed]

@@MotoredLife magnet is on proper and the Chuck key is more at 1o clock on this motor ??? Are all the magnet same size?

[@MotoredLife]

@@Mr1badseed there is stronger ones. As the magneto completely staight on both sides up and down?

[@Mr1badseed]

@@MotoredLife yes

[@MotoredLife]

@@Mr1badseedwhen you put your hands on the two wires coming from the Magneto and roll the bike does it shock your hand?

[@fuhkoffandie]

they try to keep the size small, because it's used on a bicycle. that's why you have less cooling fins on the cylinder head. what matters is hold it up to the light, and you can then see the actual cylinder, which is way fatter. just by this video I can tell that cylinder looks more like a soda can(😵👍), then compared to a weed eater looking, tiny little, Big Bite hot dog size 49cc,66cc, & similar 2 strokes. I'm curious about the stroke, if it's still a short stroke of the earlier 66cc, with a soda can piston. I can tell you this, it's definitely not a square motor (square motor = any motor where the bore & stroke are identical, or almost identical in size. either way, the motor is going to be a powerhouse. now another interesting question. have they use the same clutch, or is it an upgraded clutch? I guess I'll just have to finish watching the video (@7:50), and find out. 💢🥴💯

[@SilverBeardGuerilla]

I've got a project i'm starting over the winter for my boys. I want to put my tiller motor on their Stingray but I want to keep the 3 speed transmission suicide style . I have one issue and that's the clutch , I guess you could say it's reversed , engaged when the cable is slack . Anyone out there ever try this and if so how much of an issue was it to reverse ?

[@joneserupinsmoke9161]

I can't find the 85 I just bought the 212 cc and its nothing like w stroke

[@deleted203]

If they would sell the cylinder and exhaust together we can just build it with our yd100.

[@Littleevil9975]

I agree there bro

[@artofdisguy3401]

Give it a bit of time for replacement parts to come out you will be able to

[@Littleevil9975]

Right

[@gmcinnis6304]

nice vid n xplanation

[@statik00]

Already sold out have to wait a couple weeks for the new engines with new bearings

[@MotoredLife]

I will have one soon

[@Javier-qk5ez]

En pesos mexicanos en cuánto te costo el motor?

[@custombikedesigns343]

Your magneto is correct its 3 degrees forward on all these kits vs yd100

[@anthonymay1280]

Why do you always cut the white wire? Love the videos. Keep them coming.