The PHILOSOPHY of FRIEDRICH SCHELLING: Nature and Idealism (NATURPHILOSOPHIE)

[@gerardlabeouf6075]

9:55 to 10:06 reminds me of the concept of excess of energy in georges bataille accursed share . your oration is very captivating thank you

[@natureszodiac]

I enjoyed this so much, thank you! This insight really backs up what I've been discovering about nature and humanity by transforming the zodiac wheel into a torus field (with Taurus the sign of nature at the center). The wheel that turns is based on law, but the torus is based on freedom (or the wheel about contraction and the torus about expansion). Freedom, or expansion is 'bigger' as you were saying than law, or contraction, but they must exist together. In astrology this is the symbol of Saturn flipped as Jupiter (contraction and expansion). My studies show time as two things- one chronological and the other as a true identity based on freedom. This quote by Schelling led me here: “Time is not something that runs independently of the I, but the I is time conceived in activity." I think a day is near where science and philosophy will blend a bit more. This presentation was just so inspiring, thanks again, Tess

[@brunischling9680]

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[@br6274]

Amazing and insightful ! Kudos for your beautiful video !!

[@clumsydad7158]

excellent, a lot to unpack here ... overall, fichte's dismissal of nature is highly problematic, especially from a modern epistemology, knowing how intimately linked we are to the natural world. i need to look into the state of early 19th century german science and Goethe as a lot of the thoughts here seem very modern, proto-Darwinian as mentioned. the concept of culture vs. civilization is quite interesting, also that of expansive vs. contractive. i think we are well deceived in our modern world in our obsessive and spurious measures of 'growth': accumulations of concrete, plastics, pollutants, and weapons - many of which literally 'gross' domestic products. schelling's emphasis on the organic character, vitality, and flow of nature definitely breathes life into sterile, traditional metaphysics and opens the door to fruitfully bridging philosophy into other areas of study. well done, ty

[@jimsteele9559]

I don’t know why Schelling doesn’t get more attention. He makes me think of Emerson. And there is a connection I think. Coleridge was influenced by Schelling and Emerson was taken with Coleridge. A hypothesis I gotta look into further.

[@PaulJosephKrause]

Indirect or unknown influence, yes. Emerson and the American Transcendentalists were influenced by the British Romantics who drew from German Romantics and Idealists.

[@jimsteele9559]

@@PaulJosephKrause Thanks,

[@eldoradose]

Thank you. It was very helpful.

[@Mart-Bro]

Awesome video dude

[@clumsydad7158]

It is great. I would only say the ad setting is a bit high lately. Too many interruptions in video, literally breaking the flow of thoughts. Thank you.

[@Continential]

Does Schelling attempt to derive his expanding and contracting forces a priori?

[@PaulJosephKrause]

He claims no, in the System of Transcendental Idealism, and critiques a priori "assumptions" pretty harshly. Instead, he relies on "flow" and that all is united with the I (of Nature) of an organic outgrowth. However, many scholars don't think he was persuasive and that he himself is loaded with a priori beliefs (hotly contested). But, as mentioned, he believes his philosophy is observable in the workings of nature and ideas flow from engagement with the world.

[@Continential]

@@PaulJosephKrause thank you for the clear answer

[@agent3332]

@@PaulJosephKrause Doesnt his essay on freedom attempt to cover the a priori by the concept of the 'unground' borrowed from Jacob Boehme ?

[@PaulJosephKrause]

@@agent3332 This is a great and provocative question, especially since Jakob Bohme deserves attention as one of those formerly very influential now virtually unknown figures. So much of German Idealism is, as scholars far greater than I who am more a classicist with an extensive background in German Idealism by way of my philosophy education and advisors, saturated in Protestantism mysticism and hermeticism that they are laden with a priori assumptions despite their posturing otherwise (like Schelling). Though, again, this can be contested in "scholarship" due to various agendas of scholars and writers in presenting these figures.

[@martinrea8548]

Great talk of a great thinker. His thoughts roughly correspond to my own inchoate thinking; I will have to investigate him further. A lot of philosophy channels leave me baffled with sore ears-lots of talk with little real transmission of the essential. You, by contrast, have done a great job here in making Schelling's thinking accessible to the curious amateur.

[@Dino_Medici]

Your channel is really cool bro. Do you have any favorite works on the philosophy of beauty? I’m into everything from cog sci to abstract poetry lol

[@PaulJosephKrause]

Scruton's Why Beauty Matters is a good introduction; Shaftesbury's Characteristics of Men, Manners, Opinions, and Times is important on aesthetics when he discusses it (among many subjects); and Aesthetics by Dietrich Hildebrand are great works.

[@Dino_Medici]

@@PaulJosephKrause Hello sir. I don’t see a book by Scruton called “Why Beauty Matters.” Only one entitled “Beauty.” Is that the one you mean?

[@PaulJosephKrause]

@@Dino_Medici Yes. Why Beauty Matters is the BBC documentary based on that book.

[@Dino_Medici]

@@PaulJosephKrause Awesome. TYSM sir I am on it. I just got the Wiley Blackwell Anthology of Aesthetics as well. They include a section on Shaftesbury so I will jump into that as well.

[@TheSurpremeLogician]

This was really good

[@watcher8582]

Very nice series. What I didn't understand is how his nature philosophy is different or not compatible with the scienticit reductive view. Can his notion of nature not also do its thing if it was started in a deterministic kind of fashion?

[@PaulJosephKrause]

That's always been a critique of Schelling. However, it is important to remember metaphysical implications and axioms of starting between his naturphilosophie and reductive materialism. Schelling begins with nature and moves to consciousness, arguing the two are co-related from a beginning principle of transcendence planted in material reality and that nature leads to complexity and he concentrates on that outgrowth complexity called consciousness. Reductive materialists reject all notions of transcendence, go backward in their understanding: consciousness is "nothing but" material atoms colliding with each other in the hunk of matter called "the brain," so rather than building to complexity (a la Schelling) reductive materialism is about reducing complexity to its material (atom) origin and asserting that all complexity is "nothing but" that. Tedious, perhaps, but some very significant consequences result from these two outlooks.

[@VVeltanschauung187]

Powerful stuff. Unfortunately there's a lot of ignorance surrounding German culture in an anglo-french dominated world. Many people take for granted ideas that have come from such circle of intellectuals, and when somebody praises german culture they think of you as some sort of nationalist. I think it's absolutely imperative people learn German the same way people learn Latin or Greek -- for cultural purposes. This seems to fly over the heads of many vulgar people

[@2msvalkyrie529]

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