The Philosophy of The Count Of Monte Cristo

[@thelahna-8747]

That old man in the dungeon was the best thing thast could have happened to Edmund.

[@CatLoverx900]

Indeed, the old man was really more of a stoic

[@chozen9]

I always thought it was so silly that Mondego asked “why are You doing this?” Edmon shoulda said “Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch are you for real!?!?!”

[@ChildrensGiftMinistry]

Did you see the rainbow in the background for like a quarter of a second at the end of the sword fight scene?

[@stephenmccollum1391]

Much different from the book, but still one of my favorite movies

[@maureencora1]

Yeah.

[@JAHLEADINI]

Correct

[@rexisaac1597]

It doesn't matter, HE believes in you...

[@En1337Rich]

under rated movie. was amazing

[@JAHLEADINI]

Definitely

[@johnnygrandomstuff5882]

Amazing video from one of my favorite movies of all time, thank you

[@williammedina8682]

In the book Dantes stays with another women he loved, Mercedes joins a convent and her son with Mondengo not Dantes joins the military as a way to make up for his father's sins.

[@ebenezer4107]

Alexandre Dumas was brilliant. The end of the book was perfect as in the Soviet version. Only in Hollywood fairy tales would the relationship between Edmond and Mercedes work out. Solzhenitsyn abandoned his first wife, who married while he was in prison to married another woman. Aleksander Solzhenitsyn was married to Natalya Alekseevna Reshetovskaya, when he went to the gulag, she divorced him after he was released. She marries Vsevolod Sergeevich Somov. After his release, Solzhenitsyn was sent into exile to a settlement (the village of Berlik, Kokterek district, Dzhambul region, southern Kazakhstan). He worked as a math and physics teacher from 8th to 10th grade at the local high school by the name of Kirov. In June 1956, by decision of the Supreme Court of the USSR, Solzhenitsyn was released without rehabilitation for the absence of a body of crime in his actions. In October 1956, she visited her ex-husband in the Vladimir region, Torfoprodukt station, where he was a teacher at the time. . In 1957, Solzhenitsyn moved to Ryazan, and in the same year they remarried. But the relationship was never the same, there was bitterness in him towards her, he did not forget that he was abandoned by her and that she married another while he was in prison. Later, the two admit that they made the mistake of trying to enter the same river a second time. Natalia devoted herself entirely to her husband. She helped him diligently in everything, fulfilled all his wishes. But his he was getting more and more distant from her. He later ended up meeting Natalia Dmitrievna Solzhenitsyna (Svetlova) whom he married a second time.

[@eightyfivethousandfeetmach1530]

@@ebenezer4107 Who cares about Solzhenitsyn, Scrooge? Yes, Dumas was brilliant but even brilliant people make mistakes. In this case, Mercedes was hurt just as much as Edmond so why was she tossed under the carriage? Does it have anything to do with Dumas' view of women? (One of you scoffers on these threads kept score.) As far as this version goes, the version with redemption and restoration instead of more ruthless cruelty, weigh the number of likes and dislikes and see which way the balance tips.

[@pierre7958]

Remember when Kennedy cheats Jaqueline with Marilyn Monroe, more or less a man who meets a beautiful woman like Haydee. kennedy had a public image because of her ambitions, Edmond had no such concern. let's cite the iconic Clark Gable who was branded Rhett Butler. He cehat Carol Lombard with the beautiful Lana Turner. Only in hollywood movies for such nonsense to happen.In real life, he would have slept with several women like Alexandre Dunas or cheta Mercedes with beautiful women like Kennedy and Clarckk Gable.

[@eightyfivethousandfeetmach1530]

@@pierre7958 Yea, let's drink to the glory of Kennedy cheating, Dumas leaving a trail of fatherless children, and the other actors "thinking" with their little heads. Exquisitely sophisticated cinema, no?

[@AloutkaKazawa]

it's funny to think he played Monte Cristo and Christ.

[@ROHIT-up6jn]

I could feel the whole novel, the movie, the character... Like a dream in that 4 minutes' YOU DID SPLENDID JOB. YOU MUST BE GREAT EDITOR. greetings and we'll wishes from India.

[@ThePhilosophyOfX]

Glad you appreciated it!

[@albertserver6571]

Well my girl told me to try something new,I was thinking yes, right!& Then I was hooked! The movie was good!!! Everytime I see it,I think of her, she was way deeper than I thought!!🙄🤔😲😘😆😆❤️

[@stimpsonjcat67]

What a fantastic cut!

[@СоняМармеладова-ч1х]

In the book Mondego he is not a rich nobleman, he is a poor fisherman and he gets rich dishonestly. But in the film they changed him, Mercedes chooses to marry a rich noble and radically changed his life. It could change by making Mercedes abandon Edmond and choosing Mondego for being rich and handsome, she corrupting herself, forgetting her old love between wealth and sex, instead of getting married simply to give a father to her son. Her marrying Mondego despite being rich and noble just because she was a son, not enjoying his wealth and social status, thinking about his old love was too cliché. "He was on the mountain, whence he could see all the kingdoms of the earth. A mountain all the more terrible that it is a visionary one. Those who are on its apex are in a dream. Palaces, castles, power, opulence, all human happiness extending as far as eye could reach; a map of enjoyments spread out to the horizon; a sort of radiant geography of which he was the centre. A perilous mirage! Imagine what must have been the haze of such a vision, not led up to, not attained to as by the gradual steps of a ladder, but reached without transition and without previous warning. (...) Giddiness invaded him. He more than consented to its approach. He welcomed it. This was the effect of previous and long-continued thirst. Are we an accomplice of the cup which deprives us of reason? He had always vaguely desired this. His eyes had always turned towards the great. To watch is to wish. The eaglet is not born in the eyrie for nothing. Now, however, at moments, it seemed to him the simplest thing in the world that he should be a lord. A few hours only had passed, and yet the past of yesterday seemed so far off! Gwynplaine had fallen into the ambuscade of Better, who is the enemy of Good. Unhappy is he of whom we say, how lucky he is! Adversity is more easily resisted than prosperity. We rise more perfect from ill fortune than from good. There is a Charybdis in poverty, and a Scylla in riches. Those who remain erect under the thunderbolt are prostrated by the flash. Thou who standest without shrinking on the verge of a precipice, fear lest thou be carried up on the innumerable wings of mists and dreams. The ascent which elevates will dwarf thee. An apotheosis has a sinister power of degradation. (...) At night, a candle made of mean tallow becomes a star if placed in an opening in the darkness. The moth flies to it. In what measure is the moth responsible? The sight of the candle fascinates the moth as the eye of the serpent fascinates the bird." - the man who laughs by Victor Hugo "That cup, his reason, under this new stupor, was overflowing. He felt within him a terrible awakening. Compass he no longer possessed. One idea only was before him-the woman. An indescribable happiness appeared, which threatened to overwhelm him. He could no longer decide for himself. There was an irresistible current and a reef. The reef was not a rock, but a siren-a magnet at the bottom of the abyss. He wished to tear himself away from this magnet; but how was he to carry out his wish? He had ceased to feel any basis of support. Who can foresee the fluctuations of the human mind! A man may be wrecked, as is a ship. Conscience is an anchor. It is a terrible thing, but, like the anchor, conscience may be carried away. (...) In every crisis there is a moment when the scale hesitates before kicking the beam. When we lean to the worst side of our nature, instead of strengthening our better qualities, the moral force which has been preserving the balance gives way, and down we go." - The man who laughs by Victor Hugo

[@ΧρίστοςΓκατζογιάννης]

Jim caviezel the best!

[@BigBoyEnterta1nment]

God will give me Justice...God damn right

[@FVD]

Love this film despite all that was omitted from the book and other adaptations. The Gerard Depardieu Mini-Series is one of the best adaptations out there, IMHO.

[@barbaradenicomedia114]

yes, those two are the I Ching of TCOM, Caviezel´s and Depardieu´s versions.

[@honestfishingdillow5088]

The only issue I have the movie is that the final fight scene is not long enough I would hope that it would go on for a while but it’s still a great movie one of my faves

[@HellaGEntertainment]

Great stuff! The Count of Monte Cristo was a movie about revenge. The main character's philosophy is he needs to 'repay' the revenge his friend has done on him. You portrayed that very well here. Here are a few things we can improve a bit further: (1) Transitions: They're a bit unsmooth in some areas. I think that has to do with either the editing software you're using or technique. Add a little more polish. (2) Introduction: The moment that starts Monte Cristo's 'revenge' journey is when Monte finds out his friend, Fernard, betrayed him. This happens in the beginning (as you've just portrayed), but I would've included this in the very beginning. (3) Show Monte Cristo's breakdown of the betrayal: For years, Monte Cristo didn't understand why he was in prison. Then, he suddenly figured out out through some critical thinking with his mentor. Show that part and interleave with the breakdown of scenes. That's it. This video is a MUCH better dissection of the philosophy of the Count of Monte Cristo than the Matrix one. Keep up the great work! What's your thoughts?

[@ThePhilosophyOfX]

I made a longer one with those scenes, but it gets flagged for copyright so I have to be careful about how much footage I use on youtube. You are right about the transitions, i'll keep working on it. Thanks for the feedback.

[@HellaGEntertainment]

@@ThePhilosophyOfX Ah ok, that makes sense! Keep the videos coming :)

[@JackVox]

This great story is not so black and white as to be just about revenge, it represents the growth in character and strength of an individual who was completely impotent in the world he operated. Brutally imprisoned, he uses this opportunity to develop his intellectual ability and change the belief systems that got him into his woeful predicament, he then returns to his glamorous high society to dominate it skilfully with his superior knowledge and power. A story of a phoenix rising from the flames to encourage us all.

[@scratch67golfer]

The theme of the book and movie. Men want money, power, and women. And the pursuit of any of the three can ruin a man.

[@jonw.3886]

This movie was used as an example during a seminar showing the rituals and initiation that a man must face to become a man. He must suffer and feel pain in order to be a leader and a wise man that knows how to handle himself in the world. Young Edmond was very naive and too trustworthy and he suffered for this. It was only through his suffering that he learned to become a man of the world.

[@CeeLiberty]

Hollywood is so capable of great movies. Glad we have plenty to enjoy! Today's Hollywood is just pure crap! Sure some good movies come out but the digging is as intense as Edmunds to find!

[@josiane9193]

This film is very unconvincing. Edmond in the novel is as Saint olga of Kiev, a person almost corrupted by hatred, in opposition to society and its institutions and practicing a terrible evil revenge. Saint olga of Kiev, when she had husband murdered, she initiated a terrible revenge as Edmond and massacred thousands of people as did Edmond a terrible revenge.

[@CeeLiberty]

Yes...the book and movie are not the same. I prefer the movie.

[@george.6618]

This version is very superficial. When you look at the ridiculous fictional story of Edmond and Mercedes, believing that that first love would perhaps be Edmond's great love, that Albert would be enough to unite the two. And watching the movie Admiral (2008) which tells the true History of the passion between Admiral Alexander Kolchak, the beautiful and young Anna Timiryova, both being married and having children, left their families to be together. Contrasting the fictional scene between Edmond and Mercedes and the true History between Kolchak and Anna Timiryova, I see how the screenwriter has no idea about relationships And the ridiculous phrase: “God will give me justice I remember the adversities that Anna Timiryova faced because of her passion for Kolchak, but she remained steadfast and in the end she never gave up hope and had a peaceful end to life. It's not that she would go out dueling the Bolsheviks, but that she could hope and make her life better.

[@funkibloo3811]

Art imitates Life...2020

[@barbaradenicomedia114]

This novel is a sacred book, almost a Holly Bible.

[@TruthSayer2007]

A wonderful book, yes. But not even close to the Bible. None can compare to GOD’s Word.

[@mckenna-dg1xe]

@@TruthSayer2007 you say that as if people cannot have opinions. plus, they said ALMOST. and maybe they aren’t religious.

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

@@TruthSayer2007 god is fiction

[@WizzRacing]

The Story of Joseph being sold into Slavery by his very brothers. That claimed to love him...Only to rise to second in command of Egyptian empire.. So yes the Priest was right. Had he never been put in prison. He would have never found the resolution. He so desired. That being Justice...

[@maureencora1]

Touche'.

[@josiane9193]

This film is very unconvincing. Edmond in the novel is as Saint olga of Kiev, a person almost corrupted by hatred, in opposition to society and its institutions and practicing a terrible evil revenge. Saint olga of Kiev, when she had husband murdered, she initiated a terrible revenge as Edmond and massacred thousands of people as did Edmond a terrible revenge.

[@eightyfivethousandfeetmach1530]

@@josiane9193 So, a bloodthirsty saint is your model, ay? That's really great, just great. Maybe the film folks knew what they were doing in warping the original to a story of redemption and restoration, judging by the likes versus dislikes on these threads.

[@angelbabycards3595]

Abbe Faria : Here is your final lesson - do not commit the crime for which you now serve the sentence. God said, "Vengeance is mine." What did Faria give Dantès Why? Answer. Answer: Abbe Faria tells Dantes that he meant to share the treasure with him once they escaped, but should the Abbe die, it shall all belong all to Dantes. ... The Abbe gives Dantes the knowledge of the treasure because he anticipates his own death, and he has paternal affection for Dantes.Apr 23, 2020

[@michaeltudda2988]

Great Movie.

[@vcab6875]

Payback is uncomfortable

[@maureencora1]

Great Movie, I Lost a Good Job to Bad Guys Like These.

[@bonzodog67lizardking15]

"Count de Monet."

[@starguy2718]

"It's *good* to be the king!"

[@michel871]

Edmond Dantes neither in this ridiculous movie nor in the book is Jesus, despite being betrayed, he does not have the characteristics of Christ. He is not Prince Myshkin.

[@NeverIast]

mudvayne not fall

[@slizher]

Please be more precise that you're talking about the film. Book was so much different. Better in many ways. Maybe concept for another serie? Good luck. Fun.

[@tkw3864]

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[@kimballscarr]

Though this is different from the book... the book would not play as a movie. Personally this be the far better story, the book was too dark. The book has no feelings left between Mercedes and Edmond... that plays dead, and a great failing of Dumas, as it is a less humane and humanistic story. The book mirrors Dumas the author personal story of his father Thomas who was born to a Nobleman in exile and a beautiful slave whom he loved and married, as his grandparents, this had a similar story. Dumas grandfather sold his father Thomas and his wife for money to return in style to Paris, and to reestablish himself. He promised to buy back Thomas, and eventually did but made no effort to purchase his wife's freedom despite his love of her. We can assume that she having been a slave would not have played well in Parisian society prior the the Revolution. So adapting this aspect of his family story to the book, may be true to life but is not true in any spiritual or obligation sense. Remember Dumas grandfather and grandmother were married Catholic, and in abandoning her it was moral sin by the breach of his marriage promise made to God. So one can see why the book cannot play as a movie.

[@DEAN_23]

Have you ever seen the 1975 movie, or the TV miniseries, starring Gerrard Depardieu?....

[@kimballscarr]

@@DEAN_23 no I was in the service then.

[@DEAN_23]

@@kimballscarr Good, cos both are also here on youtube.....

[@DEAN_23]

@Cratílo Sousa Well actually, there is an exchange between Abbe Faria and Dantes, which is shown in flashback in the miniseries - it shows Faria revealing to Dantes, how he was stitched up, and also a flashback of how he got arrested in the first place. I don't know how much of the miniseries you saw, but if you gave it at least a half hour, you might have seen that for yourself....

[@woland192]

Not everyone is prepared for a psychologically stronger story. Dumas was brilliant and wonderful. It doesn't mean that people don't like the novel, Edmond's reaction in the livor was similar to that of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn who wrote The Gulag Archipelago with his first wife who married someone else while in a gulag. The film lacks maturity and psychological consistency. Solzhenitsyn married another woman and never got over his first wife's grief. The hollywood screenwriter doesn't know much about what life is about, they live in the fantasy world.