I like how this channel consistently covers tragedies I've never heard of and you don't see covered elsewhere.
@christopherweise4382 жыл бұрын
I was just going to say that, but you beat me to it. I consider myself a history nerd, and this channel consistently surprises me.
@BrenMurphy12 жыл бұрын
Keep it going, use " consistently " in every subsequent comment in this thread 💫
@CORNERSUNDERATTACK2 жыл бұрын
Hoping to continuously continue on with the continues…
@EM-wt6qe2 жыл бұрын
That's my favorite part too
@conradallen98642 жыл бұрын
I’m a New Zealander/Kiwi and the Tangiwai rail disaster was taught in primary schools, growing up. So, not unknown here in NZ. However the vast majority of what this channel presents is certainly unknown to me. Great coverage!
@perpetuallity72842 жыл бұрын
This has probably been mentioned before, but, on behalf of the deaf and hard of hearing viewers, thank you so much for the excellent subtitles. They are the best I've ever seen :D
@jeremytravis3602 жыл бұрын
Ditto. I appreciate the perfect subtitles as well. and I have mentioned before. Thats why I only have a few subscriptions on KZbin.
@jbrubin82742 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely correct on both points. 👏💯 One- those who are deaf or have a family member who is, knows just how important those cc can be. Two- Yes it has been mentioned beforehand. But I like that it happens so often. Maybe if the other content creators see how much noise we make in the comments section they’ll catch on too. 🤞
@natas3.142 жыл бұрын
I was completely unaware, & immediately upon reading your comment, I tapped the ( CC) icon. I will agree, his subtitles are topnotch. No misses, or verbal substitutions, & I don't know that I have ever seen a more appropriate speed. In a word, perfect! ... unfortunately yes, hearing impairment is a rather harsh reality for me, 100% loss in right ear, &, ( or, I could say " but only") 15- 20% in left. Haven't seen the doc in regards, since I finally got a neat, near invisible hearing aid, thought..."huh, I forgot how much noise is just always present. My ol' lady talked to me about visiting her sister, garage sales, stuff, more stuff, I couldn't just turn my head, so suddenly realized it was the only time I could mow. Somehow I guess I lost that little miracle, in the 2.5 acres that was my lawn. Figured I may have accidentally ran it over with the mower. Just haven't had the heart to face the doc, that was 3 years ago.
@P_RO_2 жыл бұрын
I'm hard of hearing too, but able to clearly hear these videos due to9 the 4excellent audio quality and volume. I have to strain to hear most of what's on YT and it's refreshing when I don't.
@andrewbrundin69532 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!!
@g.sergiusfidenas66502 жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgusting what they did to Taylor, that's victim number 30 of this incident.
@pieterdebie41622 жыл бұрын
Agreed, these are 2 tragedies in one episode.
@BellaBarossa2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree.
@Nostripe3612 жыл бұрын
@@pieterdebie4162 Not only did an innocent man get out in prison, but if it really was arson, then the real criminal got away with mass murder.
@knickd19792 жыл бұрын
I’m the one who suggested this topic to the creator of FH. While there was reason for doubt, there was also evidence against him that wasn’t mentioned by FH. For example, when police apprehended him he had a ridiculous amount of matches in his pockets. He also was spotted near the origins. It’s not definitive either way, but he got released because the science behind the investigations was weak in 1970
@madhippy32 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it. What a mess. He might be a live but he will never get those decades back. And the deal he made so the city could save face still accuses him of the crime! No justice at all!!!
@RobynS97222 жыл бұрын
Sad about Taylor. Wrongful convictions break my heart. I can't imagine going to prison for something I didn't do. Thank you once again for a fascinating, yet horrific, story.
@ashotofmercury2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDogGoesWoof69 That doesn't mean he was an arsonist!! 🤦♀
@puddinpop13122 жыл бұрын
@@TheDogGoesWoof69 that's not worth 28 life sentences
@Annie_Annie__2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDogGoesWoof69 So not repaying the company for a few dollars of drinks is worth 28 life sentences in prison?!
@Annie_Annie__2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDogGoesWoof69 And how was he supposed to repay the company when he’s been in prison since 1970? With what money? Not a lot of money to be made when you’re wrongfully behind bars.
@ABrit-bt6ce2 жыл бұрын
They found the brown guy so case closed. Don't hate me hate whoever thought that in the first place.
@ChristionGirl452 жыл бұрын
I could never imagine having to make the choice between jumping to my death or being burned alive. What I've learned from all of these fire related videos, is that if the owners of these building's would have the proper fire prevention tools installed, sprinklers, fire alarms, smoke detectors, etc. Then the fire could of been either prevented or at least tamed enough that people from the higher floors could have a chance to escape. This is why cutting corners when it comes to safety features is a big old No, No!!
@BitterBetty762 жыл бұрын
They needed some updates that's (for fire) for sure .
@RICDirector2 жыл бұрын
It was the SEVENTIES, people. Much of what is standard now didnt exist then.
@evil1by12 жыл бұрын
@@RICDirector you say that like that was prehistoric. First sprinkler invention: 1812 Fire alarm: 1852 Electrical fire alarm: 1890 Heat based smoke detector: 1902 Ionization smoke detector available:1951 First modern style smoke detector:1965 First battery operated modern detector: 1970 So yeah they had *all* these to chose from and they chose to do nothing
@MegaBrokenstar2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t cut any corners. This was the most advanced fire safety system available when the building was built. Fire retardant wood and carpet didn’t exist in 1929.
@gomphrena-beautifulflower-80432 жыл бұрын
This stirred heartbreaking memories of 9/11 and the indelible images of the towers’ desperate “jumpers” seared on our collective American minds. RIP those lost.
@Lavender_and_lemonade2 жыл бұрын
I work in fire/police dispatch and am always fascinated by how earlier disasters change and effect how we do things now.
@cheeriosforhonkies88672 жыл бұрын
The Winecoff Hotel fire of December 7, 1946, was the deadliest hotel fire in United States history, (and still is) killing 119 hotel occupants, including the hotel's original owners. This is a much more interesting fire as it was the start of ALL fire safety regulations across the United States. Which btw makes THIS fire so much more like intentional homicide! So much was learned in 1946 that declaring any building “absolutely fireproof” was a callous, intentional disregard for all human life! This would be a great disaster to cover. This happened in Atlanta , GA
@Hannah_Em2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean about this fire being more like intentional homicide? I'm not sure I follow the logic
@argylewarrior12 жыл бұрын
@@Hannah_Em the 1946 fire predates this one, and a lot of the lessons from that fire were disregarded. similar to how the grenfell tower fire was a disaster because of how the building was renovated with improperly installed and inappropriate materials. if you build something unsafe and misrepresent it as the safest ever and then people are harmed, liability is a thing. if you intentionally created a blatantly unsafe situation for profit, and a death resulted, you could argue that the premeditated crime with knowingly fatal consequences would amount to murder. it'd be a tough case to prosecute, and the responsible parties were dead, so it's a little moot.
@dinascharnhorst65902 жыл бұрын
The start of all fire safety regulations? Not the Cocoanut Grove fire of 1942, the Hartford, Connecticut/Barnum and Bailey Circus fire of 1944, or the Iroquois Theater fire of 1903?
@ralphm58012 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this was a contest. Hopefully the victims of any catastrophic fire are treated with respect irregardless of their differing locations/circumstances.
@henryturnerjr38572 жыл бұрын
Amazing you could proclaim something "fireproof" despite having very little safety precautions and being constructed of 98% flammable materials and people would just BELIEVE it! That's why I am thankful for the Fire, health and OSHA inspectors although most people regard it as a hassle.
@bobblebardsley2 жыл бұрын
You should see what they said about the Titanic 😣
@wheezesanchez56612 жыл бұрын
I used to be a laborer and I can tell you that even the lowest level grunts thought OSHA was just there to make their lives harder. "No, they exist to make sure you leave this place with all your fingers", I told more than a few.
@christophermerlot33662 жыл бұрын
It's like calling a ship unsinkable.
@WestonEvans2 жыл бұрын
Spoken like someone who’s never pulled a permit in their life
@christopherweise4382 жыл бұрын
See April 15, 1912 for another example. Flawed steel plate with impurities, wrought iron rivets, and bulkheads that didn't make a full seal......yet she was "unsinkable".
@TRex-fu7bt2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Taylor getting railroaded for arson and locked up for life is a bonus horror story.
@Cramblit2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't railroaded... This video didn't do it justice for everything they had against him and touted it as a "flaky evidence". He was seen by multiple people at the site of origin for both fires. He was caught shortly after with handfuls of matches in his pockets. Oh and he's also back in prison for life after only 4 years out because of armed robbery charges and other charges... So yea... let your heart bleed for this worthless fuck, he got what he deserved the first time around.. He killed all those people by setting that fire.
@Willpower-742052 жыл бұрын
One of the things I like the most about these videos is the lessons that people learn in the wake of tragedies like this. Sometimes all it takes is someone to stand up and say, "We can't let something like this happen again!" Lesson learned. Another thing I like are the improvements and/or preventative measures taken afterward so that such tragedies don't happen again. Another excellent video! 😎👍
@lesmorrow2262 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you’ve never done an episode on the Winecoff Fire, the deadliest hotel fire in the US.
@sixstringedthing2 жыл бұрын
42 years for the crime of being Black/Mexican near a major disaster. Not-so-fun fact: The civil statute of limitation for wrongful imprisonment in Arizona is only 1 year, but whoever negotiated Taylor's release included a "no contest" condition as part of his plea bargain just to make sure that he could not sue the state for damages even if he wanted to. Even after forty-two years, the great State of Arizona was not done screwing with this guy. Poor bloke. And may the victims rest in peace.
@Anna-Rose-2 жыл бұрын
That's what happened to the West Memphis 3. Absolutely no evidence against them. They were straight railroaded. They were released after agreeing to an Alford Plea.
@princeofcupspoc90732 жыл бұрын
If he wanted, he could get that agreement overruled in a higher court. Without too much problem.
@cjclark20022 жыл бұрын
Admission of guilt if you ask me, disgusting.
@piragintheevercorpulent15262 жыл бұрын
@@cjclark2002 do you mean that Taylor was guilty? If so, then that's baffling because his only other choice would have been to remain in prison despite finally given a chance to leave after 40 years.
@cjclark20022 жыл бұрын
@@piragintheevercorpulent1526 no, the states terms to release him is practically as admission of responsibility and guilt.
@daysiewaysie2 жыл бұрын
not only is each tragedy completely engrossing, excellently researched and delivered in compassionate and sympathetic manner, but i also find i'm broadening my vocabulary and being introduced to new words with each new episode. This channel is simply excellent. Not too far now until the fully deserved 1M subscribers
@Ihateschoolsobadly2 жыл бұрын
Facts. Nothing but appreciation and love for this channel.
@ridethasno2 жыл бұрын
2:14am here in Washington State US. Sending love to whoever reads this. ❤️
@lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Wisconsin originally from Chi, Sup? 🙂✌️
@robertthomson15872 жыл бұрын
Sydney, Australia at 7.28pm
@Lisa_05192 жыл бұрын
18:40 Korean time 🌅 Make this a great one (morning, day or night)!
@sandybruce90922 жыл бұрын
I remember the Pioneer Hotel fire very well. I lived in Phoenix almost my whole life (1955-2003) and had just started dated a guy who live in Tucson (we were in college - ASU - at the time). The accountability for the fire was totally mishandled in so many ways.
@rogerhinman54272 жыл бұрын
And nobody from the fire department was held accountable for dismissing three calls of the fire as a prank. Maybe if they had responded in the manner of a proper fire department they wouldn't have had to act so heroically, and more lives would have been saved.
@nobodyspecial47022 жыл бұрын
Because its hearsay and the evidence doesn't support it. If they hadn't responded immediately, they wouldn't have arrived "within minutes."
@Unownshipper2 жыл бұрын
Are you an actual firefighter? I get you indignation, but be logical: how much difference would that have made? How much time was actually wasted checking if it was a prank? 5 minutes? The layout, finishing, height, and ventilation of the building caused the fire to spread so quickly, not the response time of the responders. Even if they went into action immediately after the first call, the blaze still would've been out of control. If it was a modern building, then yes I agree every second counts, but with this chimney of a structure they were dealing with, once the fire started, there wasn't much they could do for the victims on the top 3 floors. With that, I instead focus on the frankly heroic work the department did with what little resources they had.
@rogerhinman54272 жыл бұрын
@@nobodyspecial4702 They arrived within minutes of seeing the glow of the fire on the horizon, not within minutes of receiving the calls.
@rogerhinman54272 жыл бұрын
@@Unownshipper And what's your point? MY point is that after getting three calls about the fire whomever was in charge decided they were all prank calls and did nothing until the glow of the fire was visible in the sky. Defend them all you want, that is still unacceptable decision-making and there should have been an investigation as to why he made that decision. As to the rest of your response, that's merely conjecture about what may have happened based upon reasoning you figure acceptable to support your argument. Oh, and yes, I did receive training as a firefighter, though I pursued a career in the army instead.
@nobodyspecial47022 жыл бұрын
@@rogerhinman5427 Ok, whatever you say. Since the Arizona Historical Society, Tucson Fire Foundation and Pima County records all fail to mention firefighters not responding because they thought it was a prank, I'll bow down to your infinite wisdom that they did.
@tylascano23002 жыл бұрын
As an AZ native I have never heard of this and appreciate the history!
@mrhead68562 жыл бұрын
great school system you have not teaching local history
@lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x2 жыл бұрын
Me too & I'm old enough. How things were so hidden from US State to US State, except by word of mouth!!!
@Judgeangels Жыл бұрын
@@mrhead6856 yep they're more worried about teaching us about the same old same old
@chickenlittle50952 жыл бұрын
I see a common issue. An unsinkable ship…… a fireproof hotel…..
@christophermerlot33662 жыл бұрын
The sky falling...
@balltongue6662 жыл бұрын
A chocolate teapot
@jimcosson2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered covering the 1946 Winecroff Hotel fire in Atlanta, Georgia, USA? It's a good fit with your channel and I don't recall seeing it here. I am, as always, fascinated by the horrifying content you provide. Great lessons in every video, all respectfully done. Thanks!
@justinlane19802 жыл бұрын
This channel is so interesting. Thanks for the great content!
@irishsakura12 жыл бұрын
I can’t stress enough how much I LOVE this channel.
@mattscudder19752 жыл бұрын
One of the annoying things about this case is that the investigating police officer was massively racist and focused on the one black youth seen at the scene and decided that it must have been him that started the fire. There’s a clip of the cop saying that he knows it was Louis Taylor as “[mild racist slur] have a history of setting small fires or setting of the fire alarm so they can rob the rooms”. This over looks the fact that the original fire investigation said that there was two fires that started at the same time, that Louis Taylor was seen running from door to door banging on them to inform people about the fire but at no point did he go into any of the rooms as was rushing off to the next one as soon as it was clear the guest was coming or the room was empty and it ignores the fact that it would be incredibly daft and risky to start a fire and then stay in the building to rob it.
@sarafontanini70512 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the bastard burns in hell for his racist actions that ruined a man's life
@miapdx5032 жыл бұрын
Always the scapegoat...a crime that always goes unpunished.
@argylewarrior12 жыл бұрын
no racist slurs are mild.
@sjeabee53452 жыл бұрын
Woke up with a headache, so glad I saw you post, great work as always!
@KristenDETW2 жыл бұрын
That's always the worst, hope you feel better.
@sjeabee53452 жыл бұрын
@@KristenDETW Thank you!! (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤
@misslesslie22352 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain. I have daily headaches (migraines). Hope you are feeling better.
@sjeabee53452 жыл бұрын
@@misslesslie2235 thank you so much! You guys really made my morning. I appreciate you.
@dorian45342 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including the wrongful conviction in this video.
@Cramblit2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a wrongful conviction.... This video didn't do it justice for everything they had against him and touted it as a "flaky evidence". He was seen by multiple people at the site of origin for both fires. He was caught shortly after with handfuls of matches in his pockets. He was known as an arson from previous little things he had done, or tried to set fire too, and was known as a thief. Oh and he's also back in prison for life after only 4 years out because of armed robbery charges and other charges... So yea... let your heart bleed for this worthless fuck, he got what he deserved the first time around.. He killed all those people by setting that fire.
@sisiclark5832 жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up not only in Tucson, but with family members in the Tucson Fire Department, this was such a cool video to watch. I drive by that building every time I head to downtown, and have been told it’s history by the fire fighters I grew up around. Thank you for an awesome video. (I will admit, it was kinda weird seeing my hometown in one of your videos, but in a fan way)
@knickd19792 жыл бұрын
Yay! This was my topic suggestion made a few months ago!! Great job FH!!!
@natas3.142 жыл бұрын
Your presentation of this case was exceptional! Oddly, I find I don't comment, or commend that often; but, I feel I should as Fascinating Horror has never uploaded anything that wasn't astonishing, interesting, well researched, & delivered in a professional manner. So, I guess saying thanks for sharing your work efforts would be more befitting.
@TheSaneHatter4 ай бұрын
I visited my late mother TWICE in Tucson, back in to 2010s, and it shows how thoroughly the city has buried this incident, that I never heard of this hotel before watching this video.
@Hey_Jamie2 жыл бұрын
“Hello, this is the fire department how can I help you?” “HELP!!! There’s a huge fire at the Pioneer hotel!! Billowing smoke, we can’t breathe!!” *long pause* “Ooooooooh that’s a good prank! Alright have a nice evening!”
@zachfarmer82842 жыл бұрын
Great content as always
@melmazing39932 жыл бұрын
I love this channel it's so interesting!
@MandieASMR2 жыл бұрын
This channel really does take the time to give quality details about these places and their history. It doesn’t sound like someone is just reading word for word from an online article. Fantastic job on these videos. Thank you.
@emowolferin76812 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that you’re covered the story the pioneer hotel fire is a story that I’ve grown up with. my dad actually worked on the second floor of the Pioneer until 2012 and the second floor was actually used as a temporary morgue after the fire was put out.
@davidvandenakker2 жыл бұрын
I know it is a questionable desire, but I do hope history has enough disasters left in store to feed this extraordinary channel for as long as I live. Its fact-oriented, respectful and humane approach is an oasis in the barren social media landscape.
@MaiAolei2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I am sure the presenter has a bookshelf full of to-be-done stories. A questionable desire, for sure, but one I definitely share.
@quillmaurer65632 жыл бұрын
There's surely hundreds, if not thousands, of untold disaster stories that most of us have never heard of. You'd run out of the highly publicized and globally remembered ones pretty quickly, but look a little deeper and you'll find lifetimes' worth.
@jessaa4442 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that I have lived in Arizona my entire life and haven’t heard about this case. That’s what I love about this channel, you always cover unique cases that aren’t very well known. Thank you for all your consistent hard work!
@sandy-pf9bb2 жыл бұрын
I admire the way you always point out any thing positive that resulted. Thank you for reminding us to look for the silver lining
@Dovietail2 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that people used to live in hotels like this. My great grandmother lived in the Irvin S. Cobb Hotel in Paducah, KY toward the end of her life in the 1960s.
@theondebray2 жыл бұрын
Some still do live in hotels, so much cheaper than renting + bills.
@AxionSmurf2 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, seems like I've seen like 50 or more of your presentations. Glad you're still at it.
@christopherbrooks42952 жыл бұрын
Notification gang hell yea never miss an upload
@TransistorBased Жыл бұрын
Why do people keep insisting their buildings/vehicles/infrastructure are indestructible?? This channel is a testament to that
@countesscable2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I here the music and the calm delivery, I am already fascinated! I agree: I haven’t heard many of these tragedies.
@EstorilEm2 жыл бұрын
Getting a fire like that under control within an hour is absolutely astonishing - I’m glad the fire department got additional funding, but even so they did an amazing job.
@pyrospark41672 жыл бұрын
I’m glad Taylor was able to be released from a sentence he didn’t deserve, but, I still have to wonder what started the fire? Was it arson and the true culprit was never found? Was it an accident? How does a fire originate from two spots at the same time? 🤔
@johndouglas57122 жыл бұрын
You read my mind . There was no mention of exactly what was used to start the fire and no evidence presented , at least here , that Taylor was anywhere near the Fourth floor
@alanbugler44042 жыл бұрын
He is back in prison again. Armed robbery.
@johndouglas57122 жыл бұрын
@@alanbugler4404 Sad but I’m still unclear of any evidence to tie him to this fire
@2760ade2 жыл бұрын
Fire DOESN'T just start in two different places simultaneously!! I have read more about this incident and about Taylor. He was set free as the evidence was found retrospectively not to be strong enough to have convicted him. Doesn't mean he didn't set the fires though? And as someone else pointed out, he is back in prison, so who knows!!
@alanbugler44042 жыл бұрын
@@lionheart94 yeah, the article I read said he was struggling to adapt to outside life, and was in dire a financial position.
@truecrime592 жыл бұрын
Another Fascinating video... I cannot imagine being trapped in a hotel room while a fire rages at your door. Scary and very tragic event.
@knickd19792 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing lots of "experts" making strong comments about Taylor's "innocence" after watching this 10 minute (albeit great) video on the Pioneer. First things first, Taylor wasn't just plucked from the crowd because of his skin tone. Believe it or not, there was some incriminating evidence to suggest he might've started the fire but didn't necessarily plan on it killing dozens of people. What the video left out is that Taylor had 5 boxes of matches in his pockets when apprehended. Believe it or not, he was a juvenile delinquent who liked to have fun with fire. If you want to gather some facts and info before making up your mind, there are multiple videos on youtube that show full interviews with some of the arresting officers. and don't forget that the real victims here are the children that were thrown from the highest floors in hopes of landing on a 8 inch mattress (they missed).
@aformerhiro73832 жыл бұрын
I've lived in Tucson for half my life, but I've never heard about this, this is fascinating! Always grateful for the knowledge and awareness you bring to me
@stevensmiseck35262 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Would love to see one on the 1968 gas explosion that destroyed a part of downtown Richmond, Indiana, and killed 40 or so.
@kleoskandi2 жыл бұрын
I've lived in tucson for almost 20 years and I have never heard of this. Im blown away that this isn't something people know about here.
@kdfulton31522 жыл бұрын
Fires are so insidious; they’re brutal and shows no bias to anyone or anything.
@Cadychan2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Loius Taylor was unforgivable. AZ owes him so, so much.
@Biffting932 жыл бұрын
Another case I’ve not heard before. I love your channel !!
@knobjob28392 жыл бұрын
"This building is fireproof!" "This ship is unsinkable!" "This system is fail proof" Take everything with salt.
@lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x2 жыл бұрын
I Do. Everything pretty much Is a lie. With ya. ✌️Be well, KJ.
@knobjob28392 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about that one. Either way, I only said "ship" not Titanic.
@knobjob28392 жыл бұрын
The "unsinkable" lable has been applied to MANY ships over history. To the point that it's almost a meme. The Titanic is just the big one in public memory.
@knobjob28392 жыл бұрын
Ok then 👌😆
@knobjob28392 жыл бұрын
If you really read my deleted comment, you would know I didn't mention the Titanic at all. I was saying that the label of "unsinkable" has been thrown around a lot. I e never mentioned the Titanic once. You're fixated on it, and you're making an argument out of nothing.
@ravennevermore8532 жыл бұрын
I work in the commercial insurance industry and appreciate that you cover the changes that result within the building, transit, or risk management areas from these incidents.
@Iruparazzo2 жыл бұрын
i love the frenchification of your pronunciation of Tucson lol
@bigbouncer41962 жыл бұрын
Always something different, usually something I haven't heard of, I love it, this is the first upload since I subbed that I haven't been here for when it dropped. Great stuff, please keep it up
@gabriellefox6352 жыл бұрын
It really upsets me that Taylor was convicted. In other tragedies you covered people who were explicitly at fault walked away without a conviction and yet this man not only gets convicted, but spends several decades in jail before he is released.
@Cramblit2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love all the people immediately jumping to him being innocent with even less evidence than the police had to convict him... There's a lot that this video didn't point out. (Like he was seen near the points of origins, and that he was caught with tons of matches in his pockets.) But hey for all of you that are still convinced they got the wrong guy.. He's back in prison for armed robbery. So yea.. Innocent... sure... He got what he deserved the first time around..
@case34742 жыл бұрын
That's racial profiling for you
@karenbee40142 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to come across this video, and I remembered this tragedy. I was 8 yrs old and visiting my grandmother in Tucson on my Christmas break. I remember my grandmother had her black and white TV on while they were reporting the fire on the news. I remember this well because she was crying and praying for those people trapped.
@orangehoof2 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed that they put the fire out roughly an hour after it began, despite lacking any way to reach the upper floors. Was arson concluded because of the two points of origin or were there any accelerants found at these two locations? One person can start a fire in two places in rapid time. I found it odd that Taylor plead "no contest" if he was innocent as he claimed. It probably was enough to get him out of jail with time served but if you didn't do it, you didn't do it.
@rugtub37442 жыл бұрын
Neato. I really needed this.
@micheleshively85572 жыл бұрын
Hey I've been watching your videos for some time now. Congratulations on your subscriber count! You completely deserve it! You show us stuff we've never heard about. Thank you for your hard work
@marvindebot32642 жыл бұрын
Damn, they railroaded that poor kid and then when they did release him made sure he couldn't sue, what asshats.
@Fenderdfm2 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaand my Tuesday is complete!! Thank you sir!
@tristantristancraped2 жыл бұрын
My mother lives in Tucson and I've been visiting for decades. Never had heard of this one. Poor Louie Taylor, I could not imagine being wrongfully convicted for 29 deaths.
@LinkiePup2 жыл бұрын
I’ve live in Arizona, and yeah, this is brought up pretty much anytime a new building is being built locally.
@TheZGal452 жыл бұрын
I lived in Tucson as a kid yet was never told about this so thank you for covering this event and doing so in such a respectful manner. (Also you're awesome for pronouncing Tuscon right so thanks again)
@BIOHAZARD_V22 жыл бұрын
Your uploads are one of the highlights of my week. I love this channel
@the_once-and-future_king.2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain what a 'no contest' plea means in this case? I was under the impression that 'no contest' means you admit to guilt and offer no evidence or mitigation in your defence.
@idlehands18642 жыл бұрын
It simply means you agree there is enough evidence against you to gain conviction and you profess neither guilt or innocence.
@teen_laqueefa2 жыл бұрын
You admit the facts of investigation without admission of criminal intent
@marvindebot32642 жыл бұрын
Done so he couldn't sue
@sixstringedthing2 жыл бұрын
Not a lawyer, but a quick google suggests that a 'no contest' plea simply means that the defendant accepts the charge (and any punitive sentence handed down by the court) and agrees not to pursue any claim for wrongful conviction/imprisonment. It doesn't necessarily require the defendant to admit guilt, although this condition may be included to "seal the deal" or in exchange for a reduced sentence. It's highly like that there's some statute of limitations for civil matters (especially when brought against the state) which would have prevented Taylor from suing for damages in any case, but whoever arranged his release obviously wanted to make damn sure that he would be in no position to sue after losing more than half his adult life imprisoned due to systemic racism.
@the_once-and-future_king.2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, everyone.
@seanharley64324 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the Wentworth Arms Hotel Fire in Hamilton, Ontario that occurred in the late seventies, early eighties. I can’t remember which year. As far as I know it wasn’t arson. It was a building roughly the same height as the Pioneer Hotel in the downtown area. The building was so dangerous an unsafe after the fire that demolition was started right after the fire. I remember it being a very stately building. Too bad it was lost. More importantly my condolences to anyone lost loved ones in both of these horrible fires!
@pblack191412 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing with us history that has been mostly forgotten, You Are Amazing.
@slimtimm12 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are what we call a "CLASS ACT!" Keep them coming please...
@kimhohlmayer70182 жыл бұрын
If you ever get the opportunity, you should visit Tucson. It’s an amazing place culturally, historically and in its natural beauty.
@GothicaBeauty2 жыл бұрын
That famous phrase of “absolutely fire proof” is rung out again!
@jenkins6762 жыл бұрын
I think I'm getting addicted to hearing this intro/outro music.
@raymondleggs55082 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fireproof means it's very flammable.
@Bootricia2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your voice and style of narration. You don’t speak too fast or too slow. And your default song is 😘👌 Thank you for these educational videos, and for always respecting the victims as well. 🙏
@GolfPrincessCL2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including Taylor. Travesty of justice (again).
@blinderII2 жыл бұрын
...been subscribed and have been following your channel for some time now. I always give the videos a like before i even watch them because i know they're going to be good. Thanks for all the fascinating stories!
@Idontcaremuch10002 жыл бұрын
This is so similar to the Winecoff Hotel fire that happened in Atlanta back in the 1940s.
@Forflipsake2 жыл бұрын
If Taylor started the fire for a distraction to get away why stay there and help others just to be spotted by many police officers etc. i hope he got paid out some major 💵. Poor kid was just a scapegoat . We’ve seen that many times before sadly .
@marvindebot32642 жыл бұрын
No payout because they made him plead no contest in order to be released. A very low act.
@MagixMusik2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving my home town some love. If you're a Tucson native, you definitely know about the pioneer fire.
@igitha..._2 жыл бұрын
I'd startup a hotel just to live in the penthouse suite. That's a wise real estate investment.
@bobcoleman90452 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great content bro!
@iainmalcolm95832 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about this tragedy. Thanks for the upload.
@OldMod672 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fireproof, just like that unsinkable ship back in 1912.... Another fascinating film, thank you!
@MightyMezzo2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a “60 Minutes” story on Taylor and the questions around his conviction. I’m glad you made space in your video for him.
@adde95062 жыл бұрын
Unless you want a steel plate for a bed or a glass couch, there is no such thing as fireproof furniture. This most likely was arson, and most likely not set by Mr. Taylor. The big culprit in the rapid spread of the fire was the open stairwells. Even by today's standards, that was some really excellent firefighting, and the department still used this as a learning experience and an opportunity to improve themselves and their city.
@eirschu89732 жыл бұрын
Yesssss I'm among the first people to see this! Hooray!
@opwave792 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! I don’t know if you already covered it, but I’d like to see your take on the 1981 Manila Film Center tragedy. It’s been covered by other channels and a horror movie was made about it. But it would be cool to see your video on it.
@Treblaine2 жыл бұрын
"wow, that's the third person claiming there's a fire at that hotel. These pranksters sure are organised... say, what's that orange glow coming from the hotel?"
@arnepianocanada2 жыл бұрын
Again a fine presentation in your inimitable voice.
@talflick2 жыл бұрын
my favourite day of every week is Fascinating Horror day. Thank you for creating such good content!
@racheldianeames37292 жыл бұрын
please do more videos on more unknown tragedies of the 20th century
@grrlpurpleable2 жыл бұрын
I always memorise the route to the nearest fire exit if I stay in a hotel, and work out how to find it from crawling height if completely blacked out too. Counting doorways or radiators along a wall with your hands. It only takes a few minutes and might make all the difference.
@Gail1Marie2 жыл бұрын
I try not to stay above the fourth floor. Virtually every fire department in a major city in the US has ladders that will reach the fourth floor.
@kg7yts1872 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for you to do this one.
@P_RO_2 жыл бұрын
While still tragic, a different chain of events where other than the arsonist it's hard to blame anyone for their part in the disaster here. It was quite simply an old building which nobody had given much thought to regards fire safety. Plenty of similar buildings in the US all over, though most places now require retrofitting to meet more modern safety standards. Clearly it was arson, not so clear that Taylor started it. Sadly there's still a social and judicial bias in the US regards some kinds of people. My first Lawyer (RIP) told me the jails are full of people whose only real mistake was not having a good Lawyer representing them, a bias against the poor here which still exists today too. At least some good came of this in Tuscon's firefighters getting enough funding to do their job up to modern standards now.
@genderchaotic2 жыл бұрын
If anything this channel has taught me, it's if they say its "absolutely fireproof"... its going up in flames.
@AlphaZuluPhotography2 жыл бұрын
I drive by that building every day. Never really knew the entire story though. Thanks for making this video and including our little town of Tucson.
@TransistorBased Жыл бұрын
Person- "help, the hotel is on fire!" Dispatcher- "well that's a dumb joke"
@JenniferWagner13 Жыл бұрын
The way I winced when you said "absolutely fireproof".... 😬 And the inside is described like a tinderbox. 😬😬
@timmaay71812 жыл бұрын
Bruuuuuuhhhh. How. Many. Times. Am I going to hear that the building was labeled as “absolutely fireproof” or a ship labeled “completely unsinkable”