The Pistonless Omega 1 Engine - Finally Working Prototype ahs been Revealed!

[@ChrisVSCars]

Hi Guys, I've seen your comments. I agree, the fluid is most likely water made as byproduct from burning hydrogen. When I made the video I didn't think of that, even tough I have talked about it in other videos. 🤦

[@ASH-cn7qs]

you are hydrogen engine youtuber and did not think it is water? you said fuel maybe leaking? what fuel you thought might be leaking? :)

[@gregedwards1087]

If it burns Hydrogen then the by product or exhaust is WATER VAPOUR, which can collect in the exhaust system and be passed as droplets or a stream of water. No biggie, but what is the engine connected to by belts at the back?

[@vinodkaveripatnam7000]

@@gregedwards1087 think it's the starter motor to get it running

[@gregedwards1087]

@@vinodkaveripatnam7000, possible, but details are a bit light on. It claims 160 hp (119kw) and 170ft/lbs (230 Nm) of torque but at what RPM? What is the fuel economy at the rated figures? If it is connected to a gearbox and drivetrain will it actually move the vehicle at low RPM or are you going to have to rev it right up to get it to move? Or will it just stall all the time? Remember, these figures are just claims, there is no real evidence of the engines performance yet, plus many other questions. I like the idea of the engine and the Hydrogen fuel, so I will keep an eye on the project but Chris has said that none of the released data has changed for some time, so we will see.

[@Dunriteproducts]

Well im certainly not going to say its not water because i really have no idea however.....those white absorbant cloths on the floor appear to be placed there to absorb that fluid and the cloths also look exactly like the cloths used in a spill containment kit which are designed to wick oil but not water. They will literally float on water while wicking out any oils in or on the water. So if those are in fact what they appear to be and are in fact placed there to absorb that fluid then i would assume its not water but again, due to the unknown variables, I really have no clue if that is an accurate assumption.

[@i1pro]

I want a dual propeller airplane, with one of these engines in each wing. The weight to power ratio is ideal for aircrafts. Low maintenance and fuel efficient. *A dream come true for general aviation!*

[@aliensmith1862]

That would stuff things up for the oil company, they havent taken anough money yet

[@AndyTulenko]

A single airplane with this would be awesome. That's my current goal.

[@rkan2]

Now just need to wait another 20 years to get one certified lol

[@wholeass83]

The original rotory was developed for aircraft.

[@TheRook12325]

@@aliensmith1862 well really I think it is about 75 percent of the hydrogen produced is out of crude oil. So big oil will be quite happy.

[@AdrianvanWijk]

When hydrogen combusts, H2O is the byproduct. That liquid is probably spent fuel (aka water) condensed in the combustion chamber and leaking out.

[@agententropy5577]

I almost have to think he's trolling us. Fuel? He said it burns hydrogen. As if hydrogen could be a liquid at room temperature and pressure 🙄. In the words of the worst president in history, "c'mon man!"

[@Bruh-bx9mh]

@@agententropy5577 dumbass it’s WATER. WATER IS A LIQUID AT ROOM TEMPURATURE. IT IS EXHAUST

[@slingshotnerd]

@@agententropy5577iN tHe wOrDs oF tHe wOrSt pReSiDeNt Bro y’all just can’t get the f over the fact that Trump lost. Literally the biggest crybabies on Earth with Joe Biden living in your head rent free 24/7, is it even possible for you to go one comment without mentioning Biden?

[@malazar9565]

Why not have it feed back in to the wiper/coolant reservoir, i mean its just water right? And its not necessarily alot.

[@slingshotnerd]

@@malazar9565 because that would benefit the customer and big companies can't allow that to happen without price hikes

[@dexterosborneii4227]

Looks and sounds like it's being driven by compressed air via the red hose around 500 rpm. Possibly a mechanical model to test the interaction of moving pieces at low speed.

[@markbarber7839]

Thanks for the video. I'm sure the sealing issue is hindering them. Heat and huge metal surfaces in close contact to eachother

[@gavmansworkshop5624]

So it made smoke while being spun. That's not idling, that's like hiding the battery in some "perpetual motion" machine.

[@ChernobylPoptart]

I think the fluid might be water.. Since most hydrogen engines create water as a by product. But we most likely wont know until they clarify what the fluid is.

[@tom-rz4zg]

It's oil. You can see it leaking from the oil seal on the timing gear cover

[@kevinyancey958]

The fact that there's an air hose attached, I assume it's leaking oil (as they're using oil absorbent pads to soak up the mess) and we only see flames come from the exhaust a couple of times while it's "running", tells me that it never ran under its own power. The engine, as it may, appears to have a long way to go, before it can even produce enough power to run on its own, much less power anything else!

[@GrantOakes]

The basic design is very unique and definitely holds promise. However, I do see a couple of issues that will make its adoption rather difficult. The main one is the tight tolerances. Without any type of seals between the case and the rotating assemblies there will either be losses or the potential for binding and seizing it up. Losses will cause very high emissions should they use traditional gasoline as fuel. My best guess is they'll have to create seals similar to the rotary Wankel design that was used in the Mazda. One thing I did notice on the engine specs that I think is unrealistic is the torque and max rpm figures. 160hp yet can also create 170 pound feet of torque would have to come at under 5,000rpm. After that the torque would have to continue to drop all the way down to a mere 33 pound feet at the max rpm figure of 25,000rpm. For any internal combustion engine that's a rather unusual and perhaps unusable range. I'd like to see a REAL dyno chart showing the hp and torque curves.

[@TomasSawer]

This fluid is not an only one question to this demo and even not the main one. Main one is what a pulley and belt on it in the back of the engine? My feeling that it's some sort of electric motor driving all this demonstration...

[@franklobue782]

Yes thanks for the updates I feel the same as you do it would be revolutionary 😂 some great ideas I am hooked to see more

[@RulgertGhostalker]

when you see the flame coming out the exhaust ports, that's a sign it's at red line, ( Max RPM ) Not Idle ( the video clip is the omega at a Pathetic Red-Line on Petrol. how do i know that? , do the math......good thing they switched to hydrogen. although a tank of hydrogen starts with a substantial energy deficit to make up; so, for any broad market outside Iceland, i would alternately recommend CNG or synth-gas over hydrogen.

[@philhutchinsracing3722]

Assuming it lives up to the claims, I’d love to know how this might be packaged into a vehicle - any comments from them on the power take off and coupling to a transmission, what about cooling and lubrication, how about fuel supply and engine management. Sounds amazing but a long way still to go?

[@needler117]

Imagine this as a crate engine! I can see the old RX7s use this with a twin turbo setup.

[@TuckerDale89]

How would a turbo work with a hydrogen powered engine?

[@manuwilson4695]

If it really is so fantastically revolutionary why isn't everyone else talking about it???!...🤔

[@johanvanzyl8479]

My '71 Datsun had a knock like that before it blew a piston through the head

[@geoffgunn9673]

So joined the pissednbroke club :D

[@lucpicard9449]

Very nice. How this engine might rotate a shaft ?

[@MattRamsay-in3su]

Looks like lube oil leaking. They definitely have a lot of pressure lubed areas, I wonder if it will use internal passages in production vs the web of push locks. I don’t see any signs of air cooling like fins. Maybe that’s a compressed air line going into it to aid in cooling? Maybe efficiency is high enough very little cooling is needed? Compressed air starting or is that what the pulley and belt are for (starting and maybe load as well)? Last, am I looking at it wrong or do the diagrams look like they’re backwards with exhaust coming from where I would think the intake would be? I would love to see what the displacement and comp ratio are. Is this engine essentially supercharged by design with the intake side forcing air into the combustion chamber; does the cold side displace the same or more volume as the hot side?

[@TheBlibo]

Hi Or is it lubricant leaking? Now a man has stood beside it to give some scale it would seem its swept volume isn't huge and the combustion camber is rather small. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see this making 50 Hp let alone 160, and that power at its rated speed 25000 would equal a torque of only 45 Nm looking at the rendering it appears it makes one combustion event per revolution like a single cylinder two stroke. I would like to know how its going to be so much more efficient if someone could explain please, also it has a lot of metal to warm up with a small combustion chamber. Sorry I can't see this working out but hope I'm wrong waiting for quater 2 update

[@SocalSunrise-gb5jp]

I believe that's light weight oil leaking as there are no seals and they are still working on that issue. It starts to seal as the engine gets hot and components expand. These component may be replaced with Titanium as it doesn't expand as much when hot.

[@timscroggins2345]

Master piece of engineering.......fluided

[@h2opower]

Thanks for the update on that engine. I love the idea but think that correcting the existing rotary engine has the most promise as it went into production with some major design flaws as this guy points out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZLVdH1qr9ySo80. Now in order for me to be able to make this engine I will have to get a 4th or even 5th axis CNC mill at a cost of $55k and up which I don't currently have at the moment. But I figure once I show a working prototype of Meyer's technology I just might be able to make a deal with those companies that are already heading in the hydrogen direction. Once I have the machines I need I will start making this engine with all of the major design flaws taken out.

[@chisaomusician7752]

Liquid Piston already designed a better Wenkle engine. As soon as they showed it running on hydrogen the news stopped.

[@mrkosmos9421]

I am intrigued, are you going to follow his improvements or do you also have your own ideas? A local college might help you out with the CNC too, you just need to find a rotary-enthusiast professor who's willing to let you put your name alongside theirs

[@mrkosmos9421]

Or you could check this guy too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5u0mZZvrKx5q8k

[@mrkosmos9421]

On the other hand... kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2TKq4SMfKqkfJY

[@JoseRamirez-fk7uk]

It's recommended to use hydrogen fuel. Everyone keeps forgetting that it can use other fuel types.

[@Sagan_Starborn]

Any hydrocarbon fuels will cause a carbon buildup and carbon buildup on any motor with tight tolerances is death.

[@justmengracie]

is the engine even running on combustion of fuel or is it turning via compressed air?

[@THEScottCampbell]

I WISH they sold these as replacement engines that could be dropped into existing vehicles. It would create a demand and possibly a licensing deal.

[@danhillman4523]

Looks like it's driven off the lathe spindle to me.

[@TolandTheShattered]

@5:09 it sure does look like it’s driven off the lathe.

[@sirkriskringle]

That's oil or Lubricant of some sort , you see it slow drip . SKK .

[@riyaadhendricks6796]

allot of RPM with tight tolerances , Could the by product be cooling the combustion process? Acting as lube? I can’t see how that’s going to make allot of torque .

[@Jkauppa]

you can easily add more than one "piston hole" in one engine rim, more like in vankel engines, around the engine circumference

[@Jkauppa]

thats exhaust, do you see any exhaust pipe

[@Jkauppa]

what is exhaust output? heat, co2 and water

[@Jkauppa]

?? you actually see the engine flame firing, from the side, like a turbine

[@Jkauppa]

or hydrogen burning to water, well thats water

[@Sagan_Starborn]

No you can't as this would negate the compression between the notch and the touchpoint between the "donuts"

[@beefycheesecake]

Why is it connected to the pulley on the big generator or whatever it is behind it? Is that what's actually turning it ???

[@iambotbeepboopba6732]

its for the spark p;lug porb a stator

[@bryanpoole3036]

Anyone else notice the belt drive coming off the back of the lathe that's attached to the engine?

[@thebaddestogre-3698]

Yea definitely doesn't qualify as a working prototype in my book.

[@nisarahmednisarahmedsamani3579]

007 Difren solid Body.

[@THE-APEX]

This doesn’t appear to be the 35 lb engine from spec video.

[@raymonduncad1333]

Question, why is it running of compressed air? Why did it quickly stop when the air was turned of if friction was reduced? Why cant it draw its own air from atmospheric pressure?

[@MickPsyphon]

Maybe I missed something mate, but it stands to reason that if an engine is fueled by hydrogen, one of the main outputs will by WATER!!! (If not THE main output!)

[@ralphhines7903]

Was just going to write that anytime there is a chemical reaction, aka burn, of hydrogen it becomes water.

[@MickPsyphon]

@@ralphhines7903 Yeah! That horrible and nasty chemical called "water"! I'll bet that 99.99% of people on the earth are completely unaware of the fact that H²O (a.k.a. "water") is THE #1 element that impacts _"Climate Change!"_ Yeah! I said it... and it's 100% true!

[@geoffgunn9673]

You would get a bit of nitrous oxide with the air being burnt.

[@Dragonx417]

I suspect that when the motor is connected to a vehicle and put through real operation tests we’ll know what this motor can and cannot do. The motor needs to have drivetrain resistance with a average sized and weight vehicle, city and highway driving. Let’s see how this motor endures it’s first 100,000 kilometers. It also needs to be put through the climate tests; rain, desert, winter. 👍🏻

[@JinKee]

How does it work without an apex seal?

[@manfredwei2602]

It "runs" on compressed air (red supply hose) The original patent from Walter Müller, "Der Eintaktmotor" , (Single stroke engine) is from 1997, has since expired.

[@paradiselost9946]

1997? try 1897. or earlier. shares certain traits with rotary engines from over a century ago... which also proved to be unfeasible... browns rotary engine, hults rotary engine, though admittedly it has only a passing resemblance to a mcewan rotamota... 150 years of people trying rotary engines and all we have is wankels and turbines...

[@frednerk5959]

Great project for Elon Musk ! Best snake oil salesman in the world!

[@Joedoeswhat]

Who's like it's more just for a small yard equipment and compressors at the moment that's even a huge jump rather you tighter than gas and anyway they can all the lawn mowers and all the compressive in generators that will save a lot right there

[@timokuusela5794]

Most likely a money grab. There are several things that do not add up, but worst are the "piston" surface area and the cooling. There is so little "piston" surface area that achieving the claimed torque, the "cylinder pressure" pushing the "piston" should be enermous. And, as the combustion heat can only be dissipated through either complex innards or/and short area of the block, no wonder it only runs a short burst in the video. It may just be producing enough torque to turn itself over. Most likely that is the case. So, at first it sounded promising. Now, until proven further, it is a hoax. But it is an interesting new way of thinking what an ICE can/could be. And please, forget the hydrogen with any type of an ICE, it further makes it seem as a hoax to fool greens. Hydrogen has no future as a fuel for internal combustion engines. It is just too difficult and expensive to store, and way too expensive to produce. A dead end like electric cars. Let us not go that way.

[@paradiselost9946]

the ONLY aspect of it that i do like is the split cycle concept. personally i think thats the way to go if the ice is to hang on. forget the tired old 200 year old "steam engine with carb" idea. its outdated. past its use by date. suck squeeze bang blow, otto, you stole beau de rochas cycle, called it your own... and well, were still stuck with it. and its holding us back. once upon a time, everyone knew that engines ran on heat. and we had progress, in leaps and bounds. now we are taught they run on "fuel"... and progress has stagnated for a century. can also blame commercialism for that, the insane urge for growth, profit... sell as many of it as possible. not because its good, or its better... but because it has to be sold. why change? its most definitely a hoax. as soon as i see flashy aero style fittings (not cheap) fancy bearings, custom parts, and what look like reasonably well funded labs... i turn off. if they dont have a running prototype, slapped together in a garage from junk, staying up til 2am for 3 years to do so, that straight away proves their claims... where did all the money come from? talking the talk. too much of it going on these days, and no-ones walking the walk.

[@jamesnolastname620]

IDK , no seals. I would guess that is the oil leaking out . Hydrogen water would come out exhaust on side.

[@seogabonotjah6555]

very great idea, still need to see especially how it maintained and efficiency, it can run hydrogen especially liquid ones is great.

[@THEANIMALGUY]

I doubt it would be useful if it doesn't run of gasoline or diesel Cuz it wouldn't be coat effective (infestructure for hydrogen costs way too much

[@manuwilson4695]

...Take some proper English lessons!

[@ncrawford1488]

I sent them credentials, wanting to buy 3 of them for use in Texas. I told them I'd pay cash and even sent a credit letter from my bank. I never heard a word...

[@ncrawford1488]

I'm a military supplier with a CAGE CODE. The most exciting thing I sell the US military is my own magazine for an "Experimental Weapon" system. After rigorous testing, my mags were found to be better than OE. I'd hoped to use 3 of these in a rare factory lightweight Porsche I have, but have since decided It would be more exciting to lift a Sharwerks 997 Turbo S and try some off-road races. I've been IMSA/SSCA eligible for nearly 30 years and have a number of other types under my belt. If it worked for me there, I was thinking about APUs for military vehicles so you had more electricity available.

[@MrSunrise-]

This will have terrible thermodynamic efficiency due to the very large surface-area-to-swept-volume ratio. There might still be niche applications.

[@markkaupas8921]

Looks like a lot of slippery roads if this becomes a reality.

[@ryanfitzgerald9833]

If they idle at 1000 rpm why was it running that slow? I think the water is from exhaust.

[@meshedgears2794]

Alien tech, what else explains the fluid defying gravity and going up to the engine from the floor at 5:00 in the video. -MG

[@danvandertorre6349]

when you burn hydrogen you get water as a byproduct.

[@geoffgunn9673]

lot of fluid coming out front between the rotors.Oil??

[@Nitewatch-xc9yz]

Is it possible to fit this in a VW beetle?

[@onechanceonekind3730]

How powerful is that?

[@Nitewatch-xc9yz]

How big are these?

[@TomaszMajcher-y6s]

That company and this engine is a BIG BIG S C A M

[@archiedentone5950]

This is nothing new. The engine never runs self powered in this clip it is being spun up by compressed air and only fire a few times The fluid leaking out around the tubes is oil

[@NickiMuster]

Looks 99% like fuel or Lube oil, main assumption due to the (orangish*) color underneath the upper ring (in addition to the two Oil jugs in the background) and the absorption Matt’s on the ground, Highly doubt this is run on Hydrogen as there are also Fuel or oil filters piped in on the right side of the engine, Ive never worked with hydrogen but my assumption would be that they have to Use Hardlines in and have way more fire protection or suppression in the shop, as it is Highly volatile (gaseous**?)

[@troytron7562]

They are injecting water to cool it as they are testing it. Timing is key No nitrogen is key It probably too advanced Yes, when heated up, the tolerance will change Hho is going to ignite all though the engine Probably a valve has to be installed.

[@komolkovathana8568]

Power(max) of 450 hp x 746 watt/hp = Torque(813 N-m) × (2πf) ; f is round/second f (hertz) x 60 = 3,943 RPM..(4,000 RPM)

[@justmengracie]

if the current pace of revealed development proceeds then there is a fundamental design flaw in the engine. If it works, show it, if not, just continue on the same way and string along investors.

[@NickiMuster]

Looks 99% like fuel or Lube oil, main assumption due to the (orangish*) color underneath the upper ring, and the absorption Matt’s on the ground, Highly doubt this is run on Hydrogen as there are also Fuel or oil filters piped in on the right side of the engine, Ive never worked with hydrogen but my assumption would be that they have to Use Hardlines in and have way more fire protection or suppression in the shop, as it is Highly volatile (gaseous**?)

[@jdee150]

The exhaust product from hydrogen is H2O

[@javac08642]

It's BS my dude, what you are looking at is steam coming out, and if you look at the video, behind the unit, it is being spun by a pulley and belt behind it that connects to the metal cabinet, where they probably have an electric motor... I smell fake BS

[@candyman1967]

They stated the exhaust had water in it from combustion

[@youtube-is-trash-2277]

i bet it has sealing problems requiring it to be rebuilt every year or some other short comings !!!

[@timh.2137]

WOW dude it is hydrogen powered and air-cooled... When you burn hydrogen the emissions or the exhaust comes in the form of water! I'm having a real hard time believing that you didn't already know that!

[@bjornihlar]

Hydrogen + Oxygen equals water - is it maybe just the exhaust we see ?

[@aidanstubblebine2197]

Quick question if the engine revs up to 20k+ how could the horsepower possibly be less than the torque measure.. horsepower is defined as torque*rpm/5252. Should it not be 170*20000/5252= 647hp?

[@Danilodtm]

engine sound?

[@whoguy4231]

Looks like combustion pressure pushing all the lubricant out and unburnt fuel diluting the lubricating oil.

[@noberpulot659]

Why the sound seems like a single cylinder piston engine.

[@sandybennett_itsme]

The engine is not running. It's being turned by an electric motor thru the belt and pulley. They're trying to start it but it is not cooperating. The spark/ignition timing is off. Also I'm not certain the rotors are timed properly to promote the compression of the air/fuel mix. From what I've seen this project either has incompetent leaders or the engineers are just ignorant of how to properly troubleshoot the engine to get it running.

[@TrueBlueEG8]

I wonder how it will sound at 25k rpm?

[@ChrisVSCars]

Me 2😂

[@youtube-is-trash-2277]

why is it leaking fluid from the bottom ???

[@ChrisVSCars]

That was prototype 1. The seals didnt hold. But since its been improved

[@chisaomusician7752]

If it is water as people are suggesting, that is a lot of water. Water from hydrogen combustion is depleted of deuterium which makes it like the fountain of youth water. Anybody with generator using that engine would have a lot of good water.

[@manuwilson4695]

koo koo head.

[@rafaellastracom6411]

That was not running on combustion. It was being run as a motor with pressurized air. You can see the actual gauges for crying out loud. Nothing burger.

[@hahaha9076]

I'm not sure you can definitively say it's real from this video. This could be running on compressed air or an electric motor.

[@PaulG.x]

3:06 this is an incredibly amateurish and inconclusive video of the engine. What is the belt drive for? Is it driving some device ? Or is it driving the "engine" with a hidden power source?

[@frankschwartz7405]

Nevermind Hydrogen....it's a PITA to work with and explodes violently Why wouldn't this thing run on gasoline...or propane?

[@Joedoeswhat]

Then you make this into a hybrid perfect fully powered hybrid car no gas

[@Juan-oy3fo]

Only hy here is hype 4:09

[@hoodedcreeper2465]

Burning hydrogen is an idiotic idea when using a fuel cell is so much more efficient. Also with the advancements in battery technology their making hydrogen is pointless anyway

[@YAMR1M]

Looks too thick to be water leaking. It looks more like oil from lubricating the shafts.

[@jaymzgaetz2006]

Seems pretty clunky. They're gonna need a better demo than that 5 second run for investors to shell out.

[@germwire90]

It looks like exhaust not fuel, but i'm no expert

[@IpunkP]

Maybe that's lunrication fluid

[@lucaswilhelmmeyer6943]

Die fluid is water by die exhaust

[@lucaswilhelmmeyer6943]

Klink Soos my pa se Lister diesel enjin wat op die waterpomp....

[@kylejacobs1682]

It will never work. At least not for trucks, it won’t have enough torque to do anything usable. Torque needs rotating mass.

[@rixin1102]

How much does this prototype cost ,I wonder

[@douglee5150]

This is one of the most ridiculous demo videos I have ever seen. You would be better off not showing anything. We have detailed CAD models in 3D but NOT a working model? Sounds like a nice chance to get a bunch of investors to lay down money on an idea - run up the stock price and realize it's not feasible. All these specs but no working model that even comes close. It looks like someone's garage shop. A fool is born every minute.

[@paulellis4693]

Too much squish, too much friction and wear. Inadequate cooling. Not enough airflow for claimed rpm. Would need huge pressure charging to achieve any worthwhile BMEP, and then the losses would be significant. A hugely expensive product to produce as well.

[@broughxtreme]

Yeh rite, Look at the surface area of the TOP of a piston that the expanding gases push against. Now look at the tiny area fo the 'sticky-out-thingy' that the gases push against in this so called engine. i.e. no power.

[@AaronChevy-ks8eb]

Water

[@altruismfirst6489]

Pavarottis large intestine was smoother sounding than this clunker

[@RulgertGhostalker]

i am pretty sure the fluid is un-burned fuel. ( maybe stop with the omega one videos, and let Aston get back to what they are good at ) turbine manufacturers need to understand that the process of designing an ICE is fundamentally different than designing a turbine ...otherwise what is it then? it's not going to even get close to 25Krpm on petrol, is what i told you shortly before you figured that out yourselves... so don't start an ICE design by throwing over 100 years of ICE R&D out the window.

[@ChrisVSCars]

I make video on the engine because they ask me to😂😂 the CEO of astreon has emailed me multiple times giving me more info, if yoi go thru my videos i do clear up what the fluid is and give updates on the engine

[@RulgertGhostalker]

@@ChrisVSCars ok i will go over your videos on it, but i still know better than to invest in it.

[@trsarathi]

When I want to listen to that engine sound, you are playing loud music. What a bad taste !!

[@FarhadB-og9js]

25000Rpm is biggest liy

[@olivierforget1927]

Oil leak!

[@Dreamer3K]

This engine will never ever ever never ever work efficiently and i am challenging the company that created it.

[@THEANIMALGUY]

I don't think this engine is worth developing if it doesn't run on other than hydrogen Hydrogen is already dying cuz it costs too much compared to gasoline or diesel or electricity or even natural gas !