The Plane That Disappeared With Amelia Earhart | Lockheed 10 Electra

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Today we’re taking a look at the Lockheed Model 10 Electra, this was the first in a moderate line of twin-engine aircraft designs that emerged in the 1930s. Notable for their exceptionally sleek lines and beautiful looks, most were used in the civil market, primarily as passenger airliners.
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Sources:
Francillon.R.J (1987), Lockheed Aircraft Since 1913.
Gunston.B (1998), Lockheed Aircraft: The History of Lockheed Martin

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@RexsHangar
@RexsHangar Жыл бұрын
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@stephenremington8448
@stephenremington8448 Жыл бұрын
The Parker family (fountain pen company) and aviation, don't know if you could get a good video out of it, Kenneth Parker had been in the air force, was well into planes, traveled around the country with them, dropping pens from 3000 feet to show how tough they were. Involved in development of commercial aviation. Was part owner of an airline. Son Daniel Parker founded some sort of medical rescue company. edit: air medical rescue.
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 Жыл бұрын
The Loire Nieuport LN 161 which was a better plane than the MS 406.
@trickydicky2908
@trickydicky2908 Жыл бұрын
The 'Gee Bee' racer perhaps, someday?
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Жыл бұрын
lt is a beautiful aircraft.......THANKS my friend for another fine video...... Shoe🇺🇸
@athelwulfgalland
@athelwulfgalland Жыл бұрын
Please don't forget to give the Ventura & Harpoon their place as descendants of the Electra! ;)
@FolgoreCZ
@FolgoreCZ Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact. Earhart was originally supposed to fly Model 10-A, serial no. 1091. But during the time, a Czechoslovak businessman Jan Baťa was on a business trip in Chicago, when his plane broke down. He wanted a replacement ASAP, so he bought the Electra no. 1091 and Earhart had to wait for her 10-E. Meanwhile, Baťa's Electra flew all the way to Czechoslovakia, eventually flew around the world, fled Czechoslovakia before WW2 and was sold to RCAF. After the war, it went all around the place before eventually being restored and now it's displayed back in Prague as one of the two air-worthy Electras in the world.
@natquesenberry6368
@natquesenberry6368 Жыл бұрын
Bata, like the shoe company?
@davidhewson8605
@davidhewson8605 Жыл бұрын
Folegore CJ . Hey from Dave. What a story !. Am thinking of visiting Prague with my Skoda and will try to see this plane as well as Skoda factory. Thanks so !.
@laurenmp7486
@laurenmp7486 Жыл бұрын
@@natquesenberry6368 Yep he was CEO of the shoe company
@natquesenberry6368
@natquesenberry6368 Жыл бұрын
@@laurenmp7486 that's interesting!
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 Жыл бұрын
The progress in aviation in this era always amazes me. The ten passenger twin engine Lockheed Electra had a gross weight of about the same as the empty weight of the single engine Republic P47D Thunderbolt just eight years later. I realize this is apples to oranges, but it is still amazing.
@MrGlossyEdits
@MrGlossyEdits Жыл бұрын
Cars did the same thing during this era, now that's apples to oranges! 😅
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg Жыл бұрын
The single-engined Douglas "Skyraider" aircraft developed for the U.S. Navy towards the end of WW2 could carry the same bomb-load as the U.S. Army's 'B-17' four-engined bomber that served throughout that war (the "Skyraider" survived in various theatres/-ers-of-war into the mid-'70s. [ Not a lot pf people know this].
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 Жыл бұрын
@@None-zc5vg Except that it was recently mentioned on this very channel, (part 2 of history of Douglas Aircraft) So everyone reading this comment section now probably already knew it.
@556m4
@556m4 7 ай бұрын
The progress is mind boggling. Think about this - we went from not being able to fly to landing on the moon in the span of one human lifetime. 66 years. Astonishing.
@RedcoatT
@RedcoatT Жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful aircraft of the 30's.
@brettcoster4781
@brettcoster4781 Жыл бұрын
Have a great trip (to wherever) and I'll look forward to the later Lockheed Electra/Hudson videos. Especially that for the Lockheed 12 Electra Junior, because it was used by Sidney Cotton (of Sidcot flying suit fame) as a recon/spy plane in the very late '30s. Cheers!
@anthonyangeli256
@anthonyangeli256 7 ай бұрын
The Electra is a beautiful airplane.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
The advantage afforded by the change to a twin tail was that this placed a rudder into the propellor stream of each engine. The added air flow gave the tails more authority, and in the event of an engine failure the increased power on the remaining engine would throw more air back to the corresponding rudder.
@merrywivesofwindsor
@merrywivesofwindsor 7 ай бұрын
Would the twin tail offer advantage to stability in the event of losing an engine and wing?
@mycosys
@mycosys Жыл бұрын
You know, its probably worth doing a vid on the 'other' Electra - the L-188. It may be the most celebrated of the bunch - but as the PC-3 Orion, still flying with many nations after 55 years.
@trickydicky2908
@trickydicky2908 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful plane, and to think, that twin tail found its way onto the SR-71 as well.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Жыл бұрын
The hiring of Kelly Johnson has got to be one of the best new hire stories in history. This one grad student basically help build the biggest military contractor in the world. Just imagine if the chief engineer had decided just to keep him fetching coffee as the new guy😏☕
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 Жыл бұрын
The new guy getting the coffee? Thank God that didn't happen! Cheers.
@naughtiusmaximus830
@naughtiusmaximus830 Жыл бұрын
U of M just produces steers and queers these days.
@rex8255
@rex8255 Жыл бұрын
And one of the biggest headaches Lockheed ever had was due to NOT following Mr. Johnson's advice, to wit: Don't do business with the Navy.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Жыл бұрын
@@rex8255 why is the Navy more of a headache than anybody else?
@adamdubin1276
@adamdubin1276 Жыл бұрын
And looking back at the legacy that the man left it is significantly easier to name Lockheed Martin aircraft that he wasn't involved in the design of.
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 Жыл бұрын
Finding any credible remains of this aircraft and its famous pilot, navigator would be huge. Though after this long the chances are pretty slim.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Жыл бұрын
There have been several expeditions. How credible the evidence is Up For Debate.
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 Жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS Or already been debated investigated and dismissed.
@jaws666
@jaws666 Жыл бұрын
Will NEVER be found,sadly
@bobbylee2853
@bobbylee2853 Жыл бұрын
They discovered her bones on Nikumaroro island in 1940 and misidentified them as from a man. Those bones are now lost, but modern analysis says it was likely her. Articles were also found that strongly suggest they were hers.
@jaws666
@jaws666 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbylee2853 oops,my bad
@elgato9445
@elgato9445 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft. Didn't Howard Hughes use a Lockheed Super Electra to fly around the world? Great content, Rex! Thank you.
@SurreyBoy500
@SurreyBoy500 Жыл бұрын
Howard Hughes used indeed a Lockheed 14-N2 Super Electra for its circling the globe record in July 1938
@m2heavyindustries378
@m2heavyindustries378 Жыл бұрын
"We'll take the Spruce Moose! Hop in!"
@minnesotajack1
@minnesotajack1 8 ай бұрын
@@m2heavyindustries378 #goose
@deejayimm
@deejayimm Жыл бұрын
So many beautiful planes came from that era.
@stringpicker5468
@stringpicker5468 Жыл бұрын
Kelly Johnston certainly designed nice looking planes. I didn't realise he was behind the Lockheed multi fin/twin boom obsession though. I grew up with Qantas Constellations landing in my small rural town as part of their pilot training. Lovely aeroplanes, though I doubt my teachers agreed as they nearly shook the windows out of the classroom wall when they flew overhead at a couple of hundred feet.
@larryweitzman5163
@larryweitzman5163 Жыл бұрын
The constellations had a triple tail because a single tail would have been too tall to fit in most hangars at the time.
@donaldekhoff7999
@donaldekhoff7999 7 ай бұрын
One of the benefits of the twin tail was that existing hangers could be used for servicing. As the planes got bigger the single tail grew so high new hangers had to be built worldwide.
@johnfriend240
@johnfriend240 Жыл бұрын
My Dad started at Lockheed in 1938 after graduating from Caltech. His first project was detailing the aft side of the pilot station bulkhead. He retired years later last working on the P-3 Orion and the S-3 Viking for Lockheed's ASW fleet...
@Dan_Gyros
@Dan_Gyros Жыл бұрын
Lockheed's design language through their early years was just so elegant and timeless
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Жыл бұрын
Flew on one of these beauties about twenty years ago out of Toronto Island Airport. It belonged to Air Canada at the time and had been one of three bought new in 1937 by the airline's predecessor Trans-Canada Air Lines. It is now on static display in a museum in Manitoba.
@flyingsword135
@flyingsword135 11 ай бұрын
Who goes to Manitoba?
@papaloongie
@papaloongie 7 ай бұрын
This aircraft was totally restored by air Canada staff , fin TCC, and was flown by a friend of mine on days off to many aviation events across the country. He also flew the Lancaster that’s in Hamilton . When covid hit, they pretended that the world had ended and it ended up in Winnipeg . It’s most unfortunate that it’s not flying, it was (in) excellent condition.
@craigcolavito5606
@craigcolavito5606 Жыл бұрын
I love a nice chill Civil Aviation episode. Plane Suggestion for your list: Breguet 14
@johnkenneally4662
@johnkenneally4662 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft, especially for it's day. RIP Amelia and Navigator.
@paulslevinsky580
@paulslevinsky580 Жыл бұрын
I was flying out of Ft Lauderdale International Airport when I looked out at the runway and saw a DC 3 taking off. Moments later I peered out again and saw a Lockheed Electra taxi onto the runway and take off. It felt like I time-travelled for a minute.
@Flyingcircustailwheel
@Flyingcircustailwheel Жыл бұрын
I'm training out of PMP and there's some cool stuff around here lol.
@paulslevinsky580
@paulslevinsky580 Жыл бұрын
@@Flyingcircustailwheel I know a guy in Pompano that has a 200 mph boat
@handenbramilton
@handenbramilton Жыл бұрын
I delivered a huge pizza order to the local air show 8 years and showed up right as a B-17 was taxiing onto the runway. This wouldn’t necessarily be worth mentioning if it weren’t for the fact that I was told to take the road parallel to the runway, all the way to the end, as the B-17 was taking off beside me, to get to where I was to deliver these pizzas. It was the coolest delivery I ever had, and, like you, I felt like I had been teleported back in time.
@paulslevinsky580
@paulslevinsky580 Жыл бұрын
@@handenbramilton That's cool!!!
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 7 ай бұрын
​@@handenbramiltonWas it the b17 that crashed? Hit by air cobra ?
@towgod7985
@towgod7985 Жыл бұрын
Another outstanding video. Enjoy your time off, you've earned it!
@paulbaker847
@paulbaker847 Жыл бұрын
A really beautiful airplane.
@Arglefaster
@Arglefaster Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the video on the Model 12.
@Rokkator
@Rokkator Жыл бұрын
I always liked the look of the Electra, so sleek. When you get to the episode covering the Beech 18, you should look up Pappy Gunn and his exploits against the Japanese with his Beech 18!
@ondrejhadek5675
@ondrejhadek5675 Жыл бұрын
There is one airworthy Electra here in Czech Republic, wich was a business aircraft of Baťa Shoe company, Founded here in former Czechoslovakia but with factories all over the world. Tomas Bata used the aircraft to travel around Bata factories in the world. Nowadays the Electra can be seen flying at airhows and it also has been seen during the COVID pandemic dellivering medical supplies to the hospitals around czech Republic.
@andysvehiclehistorychannel
@andysvehiclehistorychannel Жыл бұрын
It has to be one of the must beautiful aircraft ever made
@breth8159
@breth8159 Жыл бұрын
Excellent report looking forward to the series ... You've covered it well as a descendant of a primary engineer at Vega don't neglect the Howard Hughes projects
@TheGrunt76
@TheGrunt76 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always! A suggestion: make a video about Lockheed Hudson. No other reason, but when I was a kid, I always mixed Electra and Hudson because of their similar-ish main external features. For example, I was sure that the aircraft in the final scene of James Bond Octopussy, was indeed Hudson! 😂 Actually, Hudson is one of those often overlooked aircraft of WW2 and interesting plane itself!
@paulbaker847
@paulbaker847 Жыл бұрын
During World War 2 my Mom worked at Lockheed making Hudsons.
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Жыл бұрын
The Hudson was the bomber cousin of the Model 14 Super Electra; the Model 14 spawned the Model 18 Lodestar, while the Hudson led to the Ventura and Harpoon. The Model 10 also led to a scaled down business-aircraft version called the Model 12 Electra Junior. One of these smaller aircraft stands in for Earhart's Model 10E in the Hilary Swank film "Amelia". (So, in a few shots, does the unrelated, and far more common, Beech 18.)
@theprojectproject01
@theprojectproject01 Жыл бұрын
​@@stevetournay6103 And some of those Venturas became the mighty Howard 500s.
@DraigBlackCat
@DraigBlackCat Жыл бұрын
My father flew as a Wireless Operator / Air Gunner (WOP/AG as they were called) in Hudsons and Venturas for Coastal Command. Spent most of his was (1943+) patrolling sea lanes of North and West Africa The most action they saw was shooting across the bows of Spanish spy trawlers if they were deemed to be getting too close to areas with Allied ships
@user-ex4si2md6r
@user-ex4si2md6r Жыл бұрын
Great job done with the famous Lockheed Electra 10 -A 💯
@Rincypoopoo
@Rincypoopoo Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. As always. Thank you.
@donaldstraitiff7827
@donaldstraitiff7827 Жыл бұрын
The photo of Earhart with a Cord and an Electra goes super hard
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 Жыл бұрын
She had taste. And money....
@anthonyangeli256
@anthonyangeli256 7 ай бұрын
​@@ingvarhallstrom2306yeah. To bad she didn't pick a better navigator.
@dancooper6002
@dancooper6002 7 ай бұрын
@@anthonyangeli256 She should have picked a better pilot for that matter.
@drstevenrey
@drstevenrey Жыл бұрын
Amelia: Can we just note that even though she made several interesting flights, she was never a very accomplished pilot. Basically she was a poster girl for aviation. Her actual skills in flying were average at best.
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful almost Art Deco lines.
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 Жыл бұрын
You're videos are awesome 👍👍 thank you Rex
@BNRmatt
@BNRmatt Жыл бұрын
The Hudson is an under appreciated aircraft and I look forward to your video.
@stevenward3856
@stevenward3856 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the Hudson was flown mostly by the RAF. It was part of the "Lend Lease" that flew to the Canadian border and towed across said border by a team of horses. Once across, Canadian pilots flew them to eastern Canada. I'm not sure whether they were ship-borne or merely flown to the UK. Someone else might know more about that.
@BNRmatt
@BNRmatt Жыл бұрын
​@@stevenward3856I've heard that story. Curious if it's true or apocryphal. Hudsons were also used by the RAAF and the US in the Pacific.
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 Жыл бұрын
A private owner of an Electra pointed out how many features of the Electra are to be found in thr P-38: nose profile. wing planform and tail configuration.
@808bigisland
@808bigisland Жыл бұрын
A most aesthetically pleasing airplane
@larrynile8770
@larrynile8770 Жыл бұрын
There is another fateful international flight of an Electra which grabbed the headlines in 1938, which also lead to disaster, but somehow managed to escape notice. The Electra was the plane that bore Neville Chamberlain to Munich for his consultation with Chancellor Herr Hitler. The outcome of that encounter was a scrap of paper, bearing both their signatures, containing an "earnest pledge" never to have their two countries ever to go to wag again. As a Yank, I'm somewhat embarrassed to have to point this out.
@garryferrington811
@garryferrington811 Жыл бұрын
Well, they never did go to wag again.
@robertdragoff6909
@robertdragoff6909 Жыл бұрын
Someone should turn on their spell check!
@larrynile8770
@larrynile8770 Жыл бұрын
@@robertdragoff6909 I'm doubly embarrassed. I can't even plead drunk while typing!
@robertdragoff6909
@robertdragoff6909 Жыл бұрын
@@larrynile8770 No problem It happens to the best of us
@MrStanwyck
@MrStanwyck Жыл бұрын
Good morning Rex…. Excellent video…
@DarrellLarose
@DarrellLarose Жыл бұрын
I have had the pleasure of having an aviation media flight on Air Canada's Lockheed L10-A (CF-TCC). It was nicely restored and did many airshow appearances until 2022, now donated to Winnipeg’s Royal Aviation Museum of Western Canada. There is something about a natural polished bare metal finish ;)
@rich7787
@rich7787 Жыл бұрын
Earhart was in sorta radio communication with the navy ship sent to help, she couldn’t find the island and ran out of fuel. The only mystery is the exact spot she went down
@bernieschiff5919
@bernieschiff5919 Жыл бұрын
As I understand, the lack of a trailing wire antenna for the radio contributed to poor reception of navigation signals. She was apparently off only a few degrees, which over a long distance, contributed to her disappearance.
@bernieschiff5919
@bernieschiff5919 Жыл бұрын
If she had refueled at Howland Island there was apparently a plan to survey the Japanese held Island bases in the Solomons by flying a new circuitous route west of the Hawaiian Islands. Fake weather reports were issued by a US navy destroyer as cover for the overflight. Fred Nunan's other job here might have been to operate a large format high resolution aerial camera, the negatives later picked up and sent to Pearl Harbor.
@raoulcruz4404
@raoulcruz4404 Жыл бұрын
The book by Elgin Long has the best and most comprehensive account of the AE round the world flight . Many myths are dispelled by his research. There is much factual data about the flight because Earhart regularly sent reports back to the states. Facts that are often ignored today.
@raoulcruz4404
@raoulcruz4404 Жыл бұрын
@@bernieschiff5919 The trailing antenna or lack of had no bearing , pun not intended, on the outcome of the flight. Her lack of knowledge of the experimental and one off Bendix radio was the final factor that contributed to her loss.
@P_RO_
@P_RO_ Жыл бұрын
@@raoulcruz4404 The trailing wire (which she had intentionally discarded same as with the inflatable life raft) would have created a stronger radio signal for the Itasca to better DF on. As it was, they couldn't DF her well, nor could she work her own Bendix DF radio to zero in on the Itasca. The Itasca crew knew she had DF ability and presumed she'd use it so they offered no help. She was an over-confident imprudent aviator whose remaining luck wasn't enough for the job.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Жыл бұрын
Great video, Rex...👍
@stevenwilgus8982
@stevenwilgus8982 Жыл бұрын
Safe travels!!! I will look forward to your return, as your channel is one of my ALL-TIME favorites....
@ryand2529
@ryand2529 Жыл бұрын
That was a very well produced video, thank you.
@deckape714
@deckape714 Жыл бұрын
good history about Lockheed
@albertlorenzen3048
@albertlorenzen3048 7 ай бұрын
When I was a child, 12 years old, 1949, I worked on the ice of Great Slave Lake, NWT, Canada. A Lockheed Electra, and an Anson, were being used, to fly boxes of frozen fish, to the town of Hay River, NWT. We had to tramp down the snow to make a runway.🎉
@rex8255
@rex8255 Жыл бұрын
So, interesting tid-bit: My Dad spent his career at Lockheed. Apparently, Ms. Earhart wasn't known as a great pilot at Lockheed. Because they kept having to fix her airplanes.
@larryweitzman5163
@larryweitzman5163 Жыл бұрын
Earhart was a lousy pilot. She crack up several planes, not just the Electra. She was more of a publicity seeker using aviation as at that time there were few female pilots. Earhart was literally over her head in the Electra.
@raoulcruz4404
@raoulcruz4404 Жыл бұрын
Many pilots pranged airplanes in those days. Many good pilots. Earhart always seemed to blame something else. Instead of just saying, “I screwed up”.
@larryweitzman5163
@larryweitzman5163 Жыл бұрын
@@IncogNito-gg6uh Earhart was a huge publicity seeker along with her "husband" George Putnam (Not the newscaster from L.A.). It was a marriage of convenience, not of love. And your Paul Mantz comment just shows the low level of Earhart's skill and ability. After recently reading a "puff" book about Earhart, reading between the lines it was easy to discern her low level of flying skill. She was much better at publicity than flying.
@larryweitzman5163
@larryweitzman5163 Жыл бұрын
@@IncogNito-gg6uh If she wasn't proficient, she wasn't skilled and in what I have read (which is fairly extensive and the many other pilots I have talked to, especially at OSH) and discerned she was neither.
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg Жыл бұрын
@@larryweitzman5163 She had Putnam's publishing-fortune to fund her flying-jaunts: that turned out to be her misfortune.
@grahamsouthamn9798
@grahamsouthamn9798 Жыл бұрын
Being Australian I was so happy with the two pictures of Marshall Airways outside of their hanger at Bankstown Airport. I remember going there in the early 60s and seeing it also his Me 109. Thanks again
@facubeitches1144
@facubeitches1144 Жыл бұрын
Great plane that played a key role in helping the World Champion at Hide 'n Seek.
@robertdragoff6909
@robertdragoff6909 Жыл бұрын
Which world champion?
@facubeitches1144
@facubeitches1144 Жыл бұрын
@@robertdragoff6909 Until someone finds them, we won't know.
@Caseytify
@Caseytify Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough the original Boeing model 247 also had a forward raked windscreen. IIRC the logic was that the pilot wouldn't have to deal with reflections on the windscreen from the instrument panel.
@stevenward3856
@stevenward3856 Жыл бұрын
I think that the Douglas DC-2 had a forward raked windscreen. There must be some information on why that was eliminated by both companies.
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the XC-35 fuselage in storage at Suitland, Maryland, in 1983. Reminded me a bit of a scaled down B-17.
@chrisebbesen5798
@chrisebbesen5798 Жыл бұрын
Most excellant, thank you for showcase on Lockheed L-10E used by Earhart
@CraigBaughan-mg3hf
@CraigBaughan-mg3hf 6 ай бұрын
According to the Army sergeant who saw the inside of her plane, there were plastic fuel tanks lining the inside of the plane, with a rubber bulb pump on a plastic hose, two radio direction finders (radio compass), a napkin with Howland's location, a list of radio stations over the Pacific, a flight log and notebook. The rear of the Electra was converted to a dark room. An RDF cabinet was on the co-pilot's seat.
@robertbalazslorincz8218
@robertbalazslorincz8218 Жыл бұрын
Never in my life have I thought of the sentence "The aircraft ceased sounding like an aggrevated tea kettle" 🤣🤣
@danielallenbutler1782
@danielallenbutler1782 10 ай бұрын
I want to tell you how much I appreciate your videos. Between IHYLS, Rex's Hangar, and Ed Nash's Military Matters, I'm filling in huge gaps in my knowledge of interwar and WW2 aircraft. Thank you very much for you meticulous work!
@MyBlueZed
@MyBlueZed Жыл бұрын
11:05 I have been in that Marshall Airways hanger! 😀 I was taking flying lessons at Bankstown Airport in 1978 and got to take a look inside. Hanging like models from the ceiling were a Messerschmidt 109 and a Japanese Oscar.
@SeanFication
@SeanFication Жыл бұрын
It also disappeared with Fred Noonan, though he tends to get airbrushed out of the story in order to make it seem as if Earhart was flying solo.
@anthonyangeli256
@anthonyangeli256 7 ай бұрын
Fred Noonan was more than likely responsible for that fateful flight going astray & disappearing forever.
@dancooper6002
@dancooper6002 7 ай бұрын
@@anthonyangeli256 That is a gross misrepresentation of history. Several persons were likely responsible for that flight going astray and disappearing forever, perhaps least of which was Noonan. Earhart's husband Putnam and his unending quest for more publicity was a contributing factor to the rushed preparations and flight schedule. And Earhart herself failed miserably as a Pilot In Command and the supposed organizer of the voyage. She failed to adequately train in advance, failed to learn Morse code, directional radio finding, or other navigational principles, and choose someone she knew to be an alcoholic as her sole navigator after scaring off the first one with her poor flying skills. Noonan was likely intoxicated and may have erred in his navigation that flight, but Earhart bears the lion's share of the responsibility for putting herself into such a situation in the first place. Furthermore, there is a good possibility that her inability to fly a set course was a contributing factor. And finally, the Japanese may have had a hand in her disappearance as well. Noonan has been the scapegoat and the foil used to present Earhart, who was at best a mediocre pilot, as a top pilot of the era.
@wbertie2604
@wbertie2604 Жыл бұрын
You are spoiling us with a Lockheed 30s twin series
@brianedwards7142
@brianedwards7142 Жыл бұрын
As you've said, an exceptionally handsome plane.
@Fred_Bender
@Fred_Bender Жыл бұрын
My brother's wife is related to Amelia Earhart on her fathers side.He worked at Oak Ridge,TN and Kennedy Space center .Mr Earhart was born in Rockwood,TN. Both of my brothers children have been straight-A students and got their degrees with scholarships and no student loans .His daughter looks like Amelia Earhart's picture as does her mother .
@Mephistopholies
@Mephistopholies Жыл бұрын
AWSM series! My Grandpa has one thats a giant shiny lawn gnome that looks near identical to emelia's. It has a teardrop on top instead of a loop and empty flat four cowls on wings. I was positive it was an electra.
@FTStratLP
@FTStratLP 7 ай бұрын
Why is there always only talk about Earhart? Nobody ever mentions her navigator Fred Noonan, who was on board with her when the plane disappeared.
@Rom3_29
@Rom3_29 Жыл бұрын
It’s a mad, mad, mad, mad world movie - hero plane. One of the best Funny movies made.
@straybullitt
@straybullitt Жыл бұрын
The aircraft used in the movie was a TallMantz Twin Beech. A civilianized military version of the Beech Model 18. They are similar looking to the Electra.
@Rom3_29
@Rom3_29 Жыл бұрын
@@straybullitt - . Thank you 👍
@garryferrington811
@garryferrington811 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was as funny as dried mud.
@Rom3_29
@Rom3_29 Жыл бұрын
@@garryferrington811 - I met the 1963 movie. Likes & tastes are subjective.
@hungryhedgehog4201
@hungryhedgehog4201 Жыл бұрын
A Rex's Hanger AND Paper Skies upload at the same time? What a nice weekend.
@drstevenrey
@drstevenrey Жыл бұрын
Can I just add to this, that selecting the P&W 985 was a stroke of genius. Best engine ever.
@davidcarr7436
@davidcarr7436 Жыл бұрын
One of the "couple" in Canada is located at the Royal Aviation Museum of Western Canada in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
@johnsixx3016
@johnsixx3016 5 ай бұрын
I know it has nothing to do with the video haha ​​but the Lockheed I-188 ELECTRA It has a very good reputation here in Brazil and was praised by pilots and passengers, it was a plane with a serious vibe, the people who flew on this plane loved the comfort, the large windows,the Vasp pilots, the last company to still use the electra in the early 90s, cried when they saw the last of these being retired, people here remember it with great affection,In the case of this model I'm talking about, it spent around 30 years being used in Brazilian commercial aviation and was well remembered for its reliability and trust, And during his 30 years he never had any major accidents
@yobuddy9425
@yobuddy9425 Жыл бұрын
I met Ann Pellegreno a while ago who completed Amelia’s flight in 1967 in another Lockheed
@RemusKingOfRome
@RemusKingOfRome Жыл бұрын
That's 'udson ! 'udson with a "Haych" :D
@JGCR59
@JGCR59 Жыл бұрын
Frontally slanted windshields were supposed to help with glare during night flying, the Boeing 247s had them too. It turned out to be less of a problem than expected and so conventional wind shields came back
@RickSaunders-r8v
@RickSaunders-r8v 2 ай бұрын
Now that's a beauty of an airplane.
@nicolasroirand8011
@nicolasroirand8011 7 ай бұрын
Bonjour , merci de parler de ce magnifique avion , un des plus beau de l'histoire de l'aviation . Au revoir et bonne journée .
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 Жыл бұрын
Rex, I highly advise you to read Skunk Works before doing the Hudson video. I bet you have already read it but just incase you haven't or maybe have forgotten what is written in there about the Hudson procurement process I just wanted to nudge your memory.😉 Elegance on wings. Love this🛩
@cammobunker
@cammobunker Жыл бұрын
I always thought they built way more of the Electra than that. I love the looks of the Electra, so sleek, so clean, so very 1930's art deco-ish. The Beech 18 more-or-less copied the design and they made a WHOLE bunch of them.
@scottw5315
@scottw5315 Жыл бұрын
9000
@jeanbonnefoy1377
@jeanbonnefoy1377 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for treating what is (IMO) one of the most beautifully designed aircraft ever (thanks to Kelly' Johnson's juficious amendments...btw)
@ivoryjohnson4662
@ivoryjohnson4662 Жыл бұрын
Great commentary I look forward to the next productions
@ianmunro1427
@ianmunro1427 Жыл бұрын
I like the picture of Marshall Airways Hangar. Sid had some remarkable aircraft.
@oscare.quiros6349
@oscare.quiros6349 7 ай бұрын
I flew in the A10 a couple of times when I was kid here in Costa Rica, in the 1960s.
@blakeshipp3033
@blakeshipp3033 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to see you cover the PV-1/PV-2 Harpoon lineup as well, I’ve been able to volunteer restoring one and they are fascinating airplanes!
@ronjon7942
@ronjon7942 Жыл бұрын
Do you know the lineage of your Harpoon project? A long time ago (going on 30 years), I worked on a Harpoon project in Waukesha, WI for the CAF, until they sold it (can’t remember if to another CAF chapter, or to a private party) and bought a restored, flying warbird.
@blakeshipp3033
@blakeshipp3033 Жыл бұрын
@@ronjon7942 ours was a commercial sprayer (crop duster) in Texas for a lot of years after it was sold from the navy. The only other Harpoons I know of are Attu Warrior and one owned by Kermit Weeks. Don’t know much about either though
@peterfahey8798
@peterfahey8798 7 ай бұрын
After a 20 year restoration, a Lockheed 10A has just flown in NZ
@jwrappuhn71
@jwrappuhn71 Жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@SephirothRyu
@SephirothRyu Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to whenever you look at the Stearman model 75/Kaydet. An aircraft that was produced in large numbers and then dumped to the civilian market after the war, to such that a notable number of them still fly today in airshows and yearly gatherings.
@outlet6989
@outlet6989 Жыл бұрын
Was it a radio failure or a decision by Amelia that doomed her flight? It could be a weight-saving decision she made. I've heard stories that she had a deplorable aerial antenna wire removed from the rear of her plane to save weight. This long antenna would have increased the effectiveness of the plane's radio.
@michaeldelucci4379
@michaeldelucci4379 Жыл бұрын
Amelia did get 8:42 rid of the aerial antenna in Papua Guinea days before her last flight. What doomed her was her lack of radio procedure and she had bad flying habits. This was due to her pilot training when there was no electric/electronics equipment. She flew by the seat of her pants as the saying was. So she did not trust all the new equipment and believed her experience was better. So both her and her navigator died
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg Жыл бұрын
("...deployable..")
@outlet6989
@outlet6989 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply and correction. Sometimes my Grammarly App. lets me down. @@None-zc5vg
@MrDportjoe
@MrDportjoe Жыл бұрын
Useless information section: In the late 1960's when Lane Community College in Eugene OR. launched it's airframe and power plant program, the hands on practicum plane they obtained was anElectra
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw Жыл бұрын
There are transcripts on the internet of Earhart's last communications. The Coast Guard had a ship at her destination to broadcast a signal for her to home in on - and they could hear her - but she could not hear them. This transcript goes on pretty much until she went in the water. So - all the speculation about her doing anything else - is unlikely. Unfortunately no one had any radar so they couldn't detect her that way. They had problems with some of their systems right after take off - and really should have turned back but they didn't. Yes - losing their professional pilot wasn't a good thing - and again - they should have corrected that before they left. .
@dancooper6002
@dancooper6002 7 ай бұрын
False. The transcript does not "go on until she went in the water" it ends with a message which in no way indicates she was ditching, experiencing fuel starvation, or any other distress. The evidence and facts simply do not support her ditching the aircraft near Howland Island as the meteorological conditions reported by her do not match those observed by Itasca. Ample evidence exists of her being taken captive by the Japanese after landing or crashing in the Marshall Islands.
@craigcolavito5606
@craigcolavito5606 Жыл бұрын
I really suggest Kelly Johnson's autobiography btw, short, succinct but a nice read.
@citynomad13
@citynomad13 Жыл бұрын
Great videos, but would nice if you could screen metric values when providing data.
@bobbates7343
@bobbates7343 6 ай бұрын
I would like you to cover the AN-2 . As for this plane the Lockheed Electra was a excellent plane and great looking as well
@rex8255
@rex8255 7 ай бұрын
Fun Lockheed fact (My Father worked form them for close to 30s years). Apparently, Amelia Erhart was known around Lockheed for not be a horribly talented pilot, as they wound up repairing her aircraft a lot. My Father worked at the Burbank plant throughout the 60's on the L-1011.
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork Жыл бұрын
I've been lost in the circuit at Glasgow.
@johnforsyth7987
@johnforsyth7987 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another very informative video. When I see the Lockheed 10. It reminds me of another aircraft that was built about the same time in my hometown. That plane being the Beechcraft Model 18 that was built by the Beech Company in Wichita, Kansas. The Model 18 was in production for a very long time. From 1937 to 1970. I hope you can do a video on this remarkable aircraft at some point in the future.
@skydiverclassc2031
@skydiverclassc2031 Жыл бұрын
I did a few skydives out of a privately owned Beech 18. Good for a bucket list, but it was terribly uncomfortable (sit on the floor) and that door was way too small.
@davidhewson8605
@davidhewson8605 Жыл бұрын
Rex Hanger. Another great offering. This plane is gorgeous. Nice as a flying mobile home such as Catalinas. Have you any info on this ?. Thanks Dave
@randomnickify
@randomnickify Жыл бұрын
Bunch of Catalinas were converted into mobile homes. There are videos on KZbin about it. Unfortunately, the owner of the company took one of the catalinas and his family for the trip into the war zone where Catalina was shot at and all of them almost died. It created enough bad rep that the project was killed, but a bunch of already converted Cats continued to fly as rich people toys.
@davidhewson8605
@davidhewson8605 Жыл бұрын
@Mr Pug Thanks Mr Pug. Dave
@robertdragoff6909
@robertdragoff6909 Жыл бұрын
Just curious, which war zone and when did it happen?
@randomnickify
@randomnickify Жыл бұрын
@@robertdragoff6909 Somewhere in 1950's. He was flying around Mediterranean and ended up somewhere around Saudi Arabia attacked by Bedouins. Check Catalina Flying Yacht or Flying Home
@richieosborn2639
@richieosborn2639 Жыл бұрын
Madagascar 2 was my first exposure to this plane.
@alm5992
@alm5992 Жыл бұрын
The original windscreen design looks like it would work as good airbrake of sorts. What were they thinking!?
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 Жыл бұрын
Methinks it was a question of personal pride, most likely someone of the higher ups had simply decided their solution was the best no matter what that snotty engineer had to say about it.
@raoulcruz4404
@raoulcruz4404 Жыл бұрын
Some suggest it was to reduce reflection from the instrument panel. Ever notice how you can sometimes see the dash of your car reflecting on your windshield? Interesting example is the Vultee V1.
@alm5992
@alm5992 Жыл бұрын
​@@raoulcruz4404 I never thought of that. Seems likely, but arguably still not worth it.
@richardbradley1532
@richardbradley1532 Ай бұрын
Brought here by the algorithm because I have been listening to the song Electra (which is about this plane) by Public Service Broadcasting.
@windward2818
@windward2818 8 ай бұрын
I find it a little strange that the Electra did not have counter rotating propellers given the small rudders. Looking forward from the pilots perspective both propellers rotate clockwise. Kelly really did not have an option other than place the small rudders in the propeller slip stream in order to get proper handling at take off with the tail dragger layout. I don't think this low speed issue would fall under the category of flight stability, probably being apart of ground handling. Kelly would correct many of these drawbacks with the P38, which has counter rotating propellers and a tricycle landing gear layout. If you look at a DC 3 fuselage you will see that the single centrally located rudder is rather huge in comparison to the Electra two smaller ones. Even with the large rudder the DC 3 pilot needs to ease up the throttles to get enough air speed to just before the tail wheel leaves the ground. It takes some getting used to because the engine torque will yaw the aircraft and the tail needs a fair amount of airflow to gain enough authority to keep the plane flying straight, it is not as easy as one may think. If the DC 3 had counter rotating propellers you could greatly reduce the already short takeoff run.
@mitchellminer9597
@mitchellminer9597 7 ай бұрын
Good ideas. I think it would be easier to make a radial run backwards than an inline engine. One of my ideas is to get two rotary radials - like the Gnome - reverse one of them, and build a twin-engine craft. All the torque problems would cancel out, and the simplicity would be good. The airframe would have to be extra sturdy, maybe. Maybe you can answer a question. What's with the little stubby extensions of the horizontal stabilizer through the vertical fins? Shirley, that can't be useful. Lockheed does it a lot.
@nigozeroichi2501
@nigozeroichi2501 Жыл бұрын
That is one of the sexiest aeroplanes ever built😍
@tonyrollman3991
@tonyrollman3991 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful plane..
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune Жыл бұрын
Now that is a beauty for sure!
@jeffkeith637
@jeffkeith637 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Lockheed Hudson
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