The Plane That Was Destined To Crash | Pakistan International Airlines Flight 661

[@andyhill242]

I love your honesty about the limitations of your knowledge. Admitting to one's limitations is a strength, not a weakness. Another great video, a complex incident well summarized, I think.

[@sailaab]

and i'm thankful for finding this comment. . Really appreciate AND RESPECT him🙇🏽 for the sincerity and humility with which he conveyed it. . It shows ..that it came from his heart. . and thank YOU for aclnowledging it too. I too wanted to say something similar, the first thing after the video ended. . Glad that you did! . . Venu (Venugopal) from the sparsely populated Bharat wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhārat_Gaṇarājya

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

@@sailaab Bharat has nearly 1 billion people... That is dense, not sparse.

[@alukuhito]

It means that he's learning, or at least wants to learn. Very un-American.

[@johnharris7353]

Alukuhito yes but not all Americans, we are not all jerks!

[@654Crossman]

It's a breathe of fresh air to see people that dont mind saying they dont know enough, to have an opinion or detailed analysis. Truly the mark of an intelligent and honest person.

[@dawsonje]

Imagine the terror of those passengers while the pilots struggled with the plane. Watching the mountains coming closer and closer

[@basicallystupid7080]

“Oh hey look its the mountains.. why is it getting close- OOHHH GOOODDD-“

[@cinnow]

Dad look a mountain goat near the plane window!

[@Littlehowbrand804]

😒

[@salmaroni4134]

@@basicallystupid7080 bruh lol

[@andyrob3259]

@@cinnow it’s Pakistan. The mountain goat may be in the seat next to you or the overhead luggage bin

[@syedbilalrashid2304]

The Captain who died had a KZbin channel were he constantly uploaded videos of Takeoffs and landings at Chitral.

[@danysmith1451]

What was his channel?

[@syedbilalrashid2304]

@@danysmith1451 I don't remember. I'll search and post the link here

[@danysmith1451]

@@syedbilalrashid2304 so sad to see this. Seemed like a great guy

[@syedbilalrashid2304]

@@danysmith1451 he was a seasoned pilot. They initially labelled it as pilot error. But pressure from media and others forced them to reinvestigate it

[@kewlbeans9905]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi Raji'un To God Almighty we belong And to Him is our return. Whether it comes in the form of age, sickness, disease or accident, those who understand know it is but a pretense for ONLY guarantee in life - death. May Allah SWT make our day of demise the most pleasant day of our life! Ameen!

[@westernstar4964]

Your episodes are so informative and simple. No annoying music and really exciting.

[@chootanf]

yup, unlike "certain" air crash investigation channel

[@AlanIsMyNameOFC]

Dumb alot of people died and you care about trash?Dumb

[@chootanf]

@@AlanIsMyNameOFC ?

[@keyurd.6315]

@@AlanIsMyNameOFC that wasn't his mistake

[@basicallystupid7080]

@@chootanf “and 205 people died as the plane banked as it’d enter a nose dive as it disintegrated, engines flying off, elevator and tail wing being ripped off as the wing caught on fire exploding in air as people burned to death in air as windows exploded off. Flight 69 *(hehe)* slammed into the ATC tower killing 100+ people, approximately 2,512 people died on ground in the hotel room as the ATC tower top slammed into a hotel while the burning fuselage hit the left terminal..” *dun dun dundaaaaaan 💃🕺🕺💃 “Its Brighter Here!”*

[@gumnaamaadmi007]

I used to be an Aircraft Mechanic and I had a powerplant licence. I remember the icing issues that the ATR 42 suffered and was happy when they were resolved. This was an accident that was just waiting to happen. Faulty maintenance has cost many lives.

[@Igotethanolised]

And that’s why it is important to follow the correct maintenance procedures as well as troubleshoot so the aircraft can be maintained properly and the defects can be eradicated

[@mubashir7343]

It was criminal negligence on part of PIA to allow that plane to flight, multiple faults had already been detected in that model of aircraft and yet they continued to operate it. Political appointments to the highest order in PIA like every other public institution in Pakistan have made quality procedures a thing of the past and are no longer actively pursued or held up

[@agneyfernandes]

Pak me pvt airlines nahi hai kya ???

[@daniaejaz9887]

@@agneyfernandes yes there are many pvt airlines in Pakistan. Serene Air, Airblue, Air Sial, Shaheen Air

[@rohitmanohar2733]

Yes it's a crime if a fault detected in maintaince , it has to be fixed at any cost or else don't allow the flight. I hope Pakistan government focus on these issues rather than insulting India and funding terrorist

[@healthyliving3020]

Pakistan zibdabagh

[@babrdwod7464]

Madarchood, go fix slums in your country and lack of ability of handle pandemics like covid.

[@adeelzahid9622]

To be honest, your investigation is very appreciated.

[@darylnd]

A Pakistani friend once told me PIA stands for "Please inform Allah."

[@mmalam8148]

🚻🚾🚽🧻🚻🚾shut up

[@daszieher]

This "name" was already used in the 80's when I lived there.

[@meditatingstuff]

Bitch really? 😭

[@pmpanda658]

Bro thats wrong please do not tell it to anyone else.. PIA stands for pakistan international airlines. ..simple,

[@darylnd]

@@pmpanda658 So which is worse in your opinion: PIA's safety record or an unwoke joke I heard from--let me repeat--a Pakistani friend?

[@SoonerDan77]

Feel bad for this crew, the deck was definitely stacked against them

[@darkamora5123]

I must say, I really appreciate your humility in asking those who work with the planes in question to correct any errors, so you don't make them again going forward . That is the essence of crash investigation as well, of course, making things better by learning from mistakes, and failure points. Just so refreshing when some channels might say eff off to see someone so open to constructive criticism.

[@PilotExplorer]

PEC fault on a ATR in fairly common, usually on the ground the reset does the job usually after start sequence due to small micro circuit cuts on the aircraft. I have heard of PEC failing in flight too but it’s manageable manually, in this case the plane was pretty much domed due to the various other problems it had which could not have been controlled from the flight deck. The prop not feathering produces so much drag on Pratt Witney engines that it won’t let the ATR plane climb even at lower altitudes. Flying this in the simulator with engine failure and without Auto Feather, it’s a very big deal as it’s close to impossible for the plane to climb and control. There is whole Emergency briefing that dictates manual feathering of the engine before anything else can be carried out otherwise the plane will bank, yaw uncontrollably, loose all the energy, stall and fall!!

[@JohannesKonow]

You seem to be in the know. Is the propeller motor hydraulic since the OSG seem to bleed off oil to return? If the blades seized in 0 pitch (100 percent drag, 0 percent thrust), that makes the plane unflyable from what I understand. Can't you just install some form explosive to sever the blade hub from the engine should this situation occur? Hydraulics is incredibly sensitive to any debris so there are many things that could potentially lock the pitch of the blades.

[@captainsidewinder]

Yes the props move via hydraulic pressure and counter weights on the prop root from windmilling to feathered, only pilots who fly on the line know how serious a unfeathered prop can be, it’s like have a parachute on the back in the aircaft

[@Amonginsanity]

Thank you Pilot.Explorer and other participants in this thread to share your knowledge.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

is a controlled 'crash' possible in an ATR, without feathering the inop engine? Ie. a better situation that just slamming into a mountainside (somewhat controlled landing on the valley floor).

[@the_kombinator]

Couldn't it be made that if oil pressure fails, the blades default to a feathered state?

[@FlywithMagnar]

Your presentation is very good. As an ATR instructor with an interest in aviation safety, I have read the accident report. The cause of this accident is very complex; the odds of getting three failures in the same engine is incredibly small. You managed to explain it well.

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

Thanks! I was worried that I would mess up something

[@4evertrue830]

A question for you pls; why did the pilot/captain not abort the flight during the incident early and return back to the airport it took off from? Why continue on his flight plan?

[@masoodjalal1152]

@@4evertrue830 Hi, from what I understood, the plane was halfway from either airport, The plane has to go over Hindu kush range at Lawari with peaks over 12,000ft. The plane had already crossed the range and was going over the foothills. The plane was having trouble climbing it wouldn't have made over the range. Had it crossed the last mountain where it crashed, it would have entered a flat plain land. Besides, Islamabad Airport is an international airport with all the facilities, while Chitral airport is a small seasonal airport with nothing, not even a refueling station.

[@syed3511]

This crash also claimed the life of Pakistan's one the most famous Singers turned Cleric, Junaid Jamshed along with his wife. Such a sad day it was for the whole nation.

[@paganmin8557]

Why does a country with a begging bowl is having flights ? You guys dont have enough to feed your citizens yet you need an airlines ?

[@manimalik6505]

Who’s rattled your cage, you horrible person.

[@paganmin8557]

@@manimalik6505 there is no cage in my country probably you were born in one.. and sometime the truth hits hard..pakistan is a country with begging bowl

[@titan4110]

@@paganmin8557 Have you even been to Pakistan.

[@maskettaman1488]

@@titan4110 I've been there. What a disgusting country

[@terradrone3905]

Nice to see an increase in vid quality, the flight simulation is an improvement from previous vids.

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

Thanks!!

[@terradrone3905]

@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation no problem man, looking forward to your future uploads. Keep up the good work 👍

[@dickJohnsonpeter]

ohhhhh laddie I was there. It was back in the days of the Queen mum when she gave all the airplanes to the children. we were in that plane. we ate the lefthand engine and had some asometric drag for dessert. It's ok my lad. the stick shaker.

[@coryverses]

These kinds of comments, for a growing KZbin channel, are so important 🙌🏾

[@donmoore7785]

Except he overdid it - adding various animations of flight that have nothing to do with what happened.

[@einsaan]

A near relative of mine was the first officer. I remember the day like yesterday when I first heard the news on TV that an aircraft coming from Chitral had crashed and I immediately thought about my relative hoping he wasn't on this flight as they only showed the captain's name and picture and not of the first officer. Few minutes later I got the messages from other family members confirming he was on this ill-fated flight.

[@alberto148]

you should seek compensation from PIA

[@catalinsoare1261]

From God we come, to Him we return. May his soul rest in peace.

[@philtheairplanemechanic]

Just recently found your channel and I really appreciate the depth and fairness in your videos. I'm an aircraft mechanic and I like to learn about every air crash so I can do my part to help prevent the next one and your videos are a really great help for me to do that and I greatly appreciate all your effort. It's entertaining and informative, but I hope you also understand you're genuinely helping prevent any more of these accidents, even if only to a small degree.

[@chengxiuwang9360]

Planes are so versatile, able to fly through turbulence and halfway around the world, yet one or two broken parts can cause disasters

[@blaquentgruppe6547]

1 million pieces Sometimes i think we all need to sit under tree stare into the sky Oh my GOD IF MACHIAVELLI,COOK,MAGELLAN CAN SEE US NOW.1 million little pieces,Wrights bro say hello

[@Jabarri74]

And always at least 1 broken part was due to greed or incompetence

[@golfmaniac007]

@@Jabarri74 sounded like shortcut and incompetence without care.

[@ballsacsincorp]

@@golfmaniac007 at any timespan and part

[@syedullah613]

Moral of the story is Don’t fly on Airlines that don’t maintain their planes. It’s sad that PIA is not a cheap airline but still they try to cut corners and don’t invest in buying new planes or at least maintain their planes properly. TSB’s are very important in Aviation.

[@4evertrue830]

How do you know if an airline does not service their fleet regularly? Is their a site online or a bulletin that provides such info to anyone worldwide? Just asking.

[@Owlventure_Aviation]

just use flightradar. you’ll see them go to the hangars for service and maintenance at karachi

[@deepakparam7103]

@@4evertrue830 just don't fly in Pakistan airlines mate, there pilots are not even well trained to anticipate with harsh weather conditions.

[@flappyBoi]

in the video it said that the plain was serviced 93 hours before that

[@easternise]

PIA is a national embarrassment. I no longer fly on PIA. Anyone that does has a death wish.

[@kevink2986]

I personally would LOVE to see this crash featured in Air Crash Investigations. I think it would be a very interesting episode.

[@asimlut]

Blades were recommended to be replaced at 10k hours. This failed at 10,094. Do manufacturers leave their guidelines so close to the point of failure? I would have thought they’d err on the side of caution and recommend replacement at least a thousand or so hours before they’re expected to fail.

[@EdgyShooter]

That must have been a very premature failure (probably due to poor maintenance on the part of the airline) as there's no way any engineer worth his salt would leave a factor of safety that tiny, it's not even 1%!

[@BlackLung911]

There seems to be an inerrant problem with the ATR 42 & 72 engines, numerous reports of engine problems over the years have led to many incidents. I would not fly on any regional Turbo prop aircraft especially in countries where money is not available for proper maintenance. Back in 2006 I was in Iran waiting for a flight from Mashhad to the old Tehran International known as Maher Abad, our flight was to be on a TU154 there was a problem with one of the engines that they were trying to fix. Four hours went by when they announced boarding, I refused to board the plane as I had a bad feeling about the plane. Iran Air put us on a Fokker 100. Anyway a few days after our return to the UK I heard that the TU154 we were due to fly on had crashed near Shiraz.

[@watchesonly]

Great intuition or good use of intelligence. Developing countries have an issue of " Its ok " mindset.

[@kaustubhsingh16]

Lol going to fly in an atr72-600 tomorrow hopefully it won’t crash.

[@SF-fb6lv]

Good call, man. I've never been in a position of deciding to refuse to board. You stuck to your guns and did what needed to be done. Props. (no pun intended).

[@zaphodbeeblebrox9109]

​@@kaustubhsingh16 did you survive? Say nothing if you didnt.

[@smsalman439]

There was a legend aboard that flight. Junaid Jamshed

[@uyth336]

may he rest in paradise ameen

[@uzidayo]

@MURU GAMING he wasnt on a Boeing

[@mh2k44]

YESS

[@musicnerd72]

WHO?

[@smsalman439]

@@musicnerd72 Junaid Jamshed

[@benniepierce6283]

You are of an attitude about yourself that contributes to your continuing to LEARN what you don´t know and to in turn teach others. Those that ¨know it all¨ will stop learning and be poor teachers. A very fine video. Keep it up.

[@yerunski]

Very well made, appreciate the effort that went into the making of this video!

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

Glad you liked it 💕

[@patjohn775]

Mini Air Crash Investigation for real I would watch this on real tv. Get a deal from somewhere and get some funding

[@matthewl67]

@@patjohn775 Nooooooo!!!! Not TV!!! Lol. Somewhat dramatic, I know. But seriously. Mini does such a good job of researching these events and providing facts of the incident and causes in a non biased very concise presentation. He breaks everything down in a manner that anyone can understand even if they are not a pilot and don’t understand how airplanes work. I’m concerned that producers would ruin his work and shift the focus to the “drama” and butcher (they call it editing) his presentations somehow into a reality TV abomination and hour long, but somehow have less content the way they dilute any show with a modicum of actual tangible information in them. I do agree that he needs more compensation and recognition for the sheer amount of time and effort invested in his excellent work. Could you imagine what the history channel would do to something this good? They would attribute everything without a clear cut causation to fucking aliens!!

[@broomstock9387]

@@matthewl67 Yes! Spot on, history channel and National Geographics also, claiming sea monsters as the cause of missing airplanes in the Bermuda Triangle. ( LOL) Rather than a lack of landmarks, as everything looks the same over an ocean. A deviation in unexpected IMC with unknown winds and unknown wind correction angle, whilst navigating by dead reckoning over an ocean, was a definite way to get lost and run out of fuel. Back then there were no Gps or meteorological satellites to determine winds aloft or surface winds over the ocean, which means an attempted rescue would be searching in a completely different area and would also risk getting lost. Add to all of this, compass errors and magnetic deviations, as flying by a compass would have been the only means of direction finding over an open ocean.

[@Amaleen6]

Was there anything that WASN'T wrong with the plane? The tray tables, maybe?

[@obsoleteprofessor2034]

Gum underneath

[@Amaleen6]

@@obsoleteprofessor2034 It figures. ;-)

[@SF-fb6lv]

On my FlyDubai flight from Dubai to Kilimanjaro, even the tray table was broken...

[@Amaleen6]

@@SF-fb6lv Oh, man. Not good.

[@patriciamariemitchel]

I like the simulation. That was a hard one to explain but you did a good job. Thank you.

[@notme2day]

I very recently discovered your channel and subscribed. What is so very appealing is the narrative of just the facts. I'm not saying lives don't matter but I like hearing what happened and what went wrong without the time consuming sensationalism of the human aspect.

[@EdgyShooter]

So sad for this crew, they did an amazing job and had the great idea to call in the engineer, but the game was stacked against them from the start

[@d.b.cooper1]

Seemed to be doomed for that ending ...RIP to all passengers & that crew who seemingly couldn’t have done much more to avoid that endless jog. RIP

[@30769s]

Short, simple, informative, straight to the point, no overly dramatic drama. Love your videos mate you've replaced Air Crash Investigation as my prime air crash info source

[@genuinely.faking]

I really appreciate your commentary. I can't always watch another channel because they play music & I have to read the text. I'm busy sometimes so this is very helpful.👍

[@fb1926]

Mini Air Crash Investigation: Thank you for the informative video, may all those perished, rest in eternal peace, Amen

[@mbvoelker8448]

I found this easy to follow despite the complexity. The only improvement would be to leave the diagrams and bulletins up longer so that we could read and digest them.

[@marlocatayong23]

I have 25 years of public/civil service under my belt. This started off as one of the most complete investigations/reports I have ever heard/read. Having said that, I would like to see/hear about all maintenance requests and/or pilot complaints for maybe, five years leading up to the incident (if more or earlier maintenance requests were available, I would probably peruse them as well). Names of everyone having done maintenance during those said dates; and the disposition/changes made, to either parts or protocol that occurred in the aftermath and subsequent investigation(s)and official report(s). This video definitely deserves a follow-up. Maybe interviews with pertinent witnesses. Hour-long documentary? CVR and ATC recordings? Great work, i am subscribing ringing the bell.

[@mcmagiccracker]

I'd like to see you do a preliminary analysis on SJ182. Then update when the investigators release their report

[@davidtucker3729]

well explained and a fairly complex topic. Poor guys could not have known what they had coming but the ending was sort of inevitable considering the mountainous terrain. Thanks for another good episode.

[@matthendricks9666]

I think a very similar failure happened in the USA. I just remember that the feathering mechanism of the prop failed and the plane was uncontollable. A former NASA astronaut was amongst the passengers. They all perished.

[@JonMulveyGuitar]

The lack of maintenance oversight is typical of PIA and other carriers with little government mandated requirements for suggested repairs from the manufacturer. Also you can see that these were airplane operators not pilots.. (Typical of PIA. See the PIA crash 8303. Failing to put the landing gear down???) If they flew by AQP standards they would not have stalled the plane. They would have attempted to put the plane down. Great job in describing this event!

[@nasirkayani4785]

Very well presented video and supporting simulation. I can only add that compromise on safety standards and lack of professional attitude led to that tragedy which could have been avoided. Pia engineering is one of the oldest and largest in the region yet they failed to implement the safety standards in its letter and spirit. I really hope that they have started addressing such issues as they just passed the IOSA safety audit

[@balthazzaarmontague8036]

I LOVE your style of narration. It's made you my fave accident investigation channel.

[@rutgerhauerfan]

Would any of you say that they might've been able to land somewhat safely had they not been in mountainous terrain? I feel like they might've stood a slightly bigger chance if the area surrounding them had been flat, but sadly, the odds were really against them. :( I ask because I'm not really an expert. What I've come to know about aviation is all thanks to videos like these! Rest in peace, everyone aboard.

[@adotintheshark4848]

When the OSG failed it affected the PVM and it's EHV, which flummoxed the PIC and PNF until the plane was SOL.

[@2760ade]

WTF?

[@donnafromnyc]

Thank you...great improvement in your videos and the explanation on this was handled well and clearly for non engineers. You're getting better and better!

[@pascalcoole2725]

Ok, lets just forget the shabby maintenance for a second, - When the PEC failed, the crew cycled it for three times to reset it right ? In another comment i already stated "If the checklist, QRH or whatever kind of manual requires to cyle, you do this only once !" And than of course you do this only when the manual states such a procedure. Swiching of the PEC brings the prop in a manual mode which in essense and under normal conditions would be good enough to complete the flight savely. The engine failure would state that the engine would have to shutdown which includes feathering the prop. I do agree that this is what the crew eventualy did. Would they have done this right away there was a much larger chance the prop would have feathered and the crippled airplane would have survived. - Over the years one can conclude most aviation accidents are result of not following proper procedures. Eigther by the flightcrew, the maintenance crew or anyone else involved by the operationm. Lack of descent training may be the cause of this, This again may be caused by economical considerations.

[@torgrimmyt3549]

Thank you for making these videos. As others already said you strike a good balance in your presentation as well as in your choice of topics. As I can be rather picky about videos such as yours I especially appreciate the attention to detail and your factual approach. I read parts of the official investigation reports and you summarized the key points very well and precise. Good luck with your channel!

[@basundharroy89]

You have a very clear voice and your informative narration with diagrams is much appreciated.

[@richardshiggins704]

A simplification of the events ! PIA was asked to cease ops . Might be the best solution . Very good video and very professional .

[@Sherbazkhan11]

i still remember seeing the news of this crash... i was so sad to hear it

[@BunkerFox]

Just want to say I love your vids and it's been great following along because you've made some good progress with the quality of them too. Keep up the great work!

[@breadandcircus1]

I feel so sorry for the all the human beings who died in this horrible plane accident. I only can imagine the horror they went through watching tragedy to unfold right before their eyes. Poor maintenance to those planes operating in Pakistan and countries like that, caused the deaths of those innocent people. This was murder in disguise. MAY ALL THEIR SOULS REST IN GOD'S HANDS. Amen.

[@cesareenzoditrivento3254]

I love the new plane SIM stuff!

[@greenjupiter]

I came back on the same plane from Chitral to Islamabad with mother and siblings 2 weeks before the crash, this plane was really fucked up, stayed on the runway for so long, PIA almost cancelled the flight due to some unknown technical fault and then decided to fly and at the moment I turned to my mother and said if I wasn't with you guys I would have gotten off right now coz this feels wrong and during the flight, looking out the window I was amazed as to how did that plane edure air friction and not come apart, the sound the wings and engine were making was not normal. 2 weeks later, saw it on the news and I took another week to accept that the same flight me and my family took crashed, the feeling was bloody weird, gave me chills

[@Crashed131963]

WOW!

[@saintbarnabasshackles2437]

Well atleast you were in an air blue. Them shits will warp shape because of a light breeze

[@mysticatskylanders6017]

rip junaid jamshed and other 49 people onboard

[@roblamb8327]

I'm impressed by your impartiality; by your not making "a drama out of a crisis"; and admission that you're analysis may be flawed so asking for additional information - corroborative or otherwise - again to make the content more "educational" and not "entertaining". This is a topic outside my normal range but it is worthy of support - hence my like and sub. Thanks for this meritorious video.

[@JasonFlorida]

Liked and subscribed! I really appreciate your excellent videos! You have a great way about you and your awesome story lines... Great work! Thank you!

[@jfrarex]

Thank you!!! I had been unable to fall asleep for weeks. I was out cold within the first 3 min of this video. Kudos Sir!

[@farhanjp]

We lost great souls in the crash. Generations in the country cannot forget Junaid Jamshed.

[@blaquentgruppe6547]

Junaid a HERO In fight for the mountain peaks i must go take a look

[@madirishman9240]

Stumbled on your channel by chance and after watching this video, Subscribed right away. Great video!

[@HashirVani]

Beloved junaid jamshed wad on this plane ! May Allah grant him jannah !

[@ayeshasohail9113]

Watched it for the first time, an excellent episode telling about….I would say a criminal negligence…poor maintainance and faults every where with the most important parts of the poor plane…I love the way you explain every thing and make it easy to understand for everyone…my best regards for you…love from Pakistan.

[@lisaschuster9187]

Gorgeous graphics and good narration! I didn’t even care that I’m a total girl when it comes to mechanics.

[@sbh0892]

Girls can be great at mechanics.

[@Thetrickyace]

What does gender have to do with anything? Lol

[@Cninnamon_roll]

Uhm girl? There are world renowned female mechanics and engineers

[@nawalmuzaffar3239]

Junaid Jamshed Was In This Aircraft 🥺💔 May Allah Give Jannah To All The People Who Died In The Crash Ameen Suma Ameen

[@donmoore7785]

Very good, except the continued display of animated flight segments that are totally unrelated to the accident with the recitation of investigation results are very distracting. You interspersed diagrams of failed parts (relevant) with a plane bouncing on the runway during landing (this plane crashed into a mountain). Don't use filler like that - it detracts from the product.

[@StefunnyStrange]

1:06 Am I the only one who thought from the animation that the plane was about to run into the mountain early in the video? I was like "that was fast!"

[@jeffrachel2732]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[@ted.angell7609]

Jeff Rachel I knew someone would beat me to that 😄

[@PryceLee]

@@ted.angell7609 lol

[@Zepplin104]

Great explanation. Great summary. Thank-you.

[@kevinpayne3804]

The problem i see with this flight is more about pilot pressure to complete the flight regardless of circumstances. On climb out, they only reached a max speed of 145 knots; just 25 knots over their minimum? That's the point I would have started looking for a landing site and getting that plane on the ground safely. Then you add the fact they didn't feather and shut down that engine at the first sign of a pitch alarm? That's problematic. Let alone the fact that they were allowing autopilot to fly the plane when there were obvious mechanical problems that the autopilot may not have been able to account for. In this situation the saying, "Its better to be alive and embarrassed, then dead." And by that, I mean, at any time after seeing just that 25 knot window to the planes stall speed they could have turned around.. but chose to continue.

[@broomstock9387]

@Kevin Payne I would just like to add the following; Oftentimes in these situations there are "other unknown" pre-existing maintenance issues which the airline will try to hide either from accident investigators or from civil lawsuit attorneys, but was a serious issue for the pilots. Yet it never gets to the knowledge of the general public. 2) It is so easy to armchair quarterback in the comfort of a quiet room. Where there are no blaring bells and loud sounds, and no impending fear of doom. In that emergency situation where you don't have control of the aircraft and you are literally fighting for your life, you need extra time to think of something new, when what you have been trained to do is not working or correcting the situation.

[@Sabih9.6]

Just found this amazing channel. Keep up the great work bud. These explanations are perfect for my simple mind.

[@aaabirgade7443]

Junaid Jamshed singer and preacher also killed with his wife in this crash,it was very sad millions of people loved him .

[@ljre3397]

He’s definitely has gotten better. Thanks friend.

[@adriansaidan1736]

1:14 - first recorded instance of "is there an engineer on board?"

[@CaptSyedAwais]

Job well done... in this short time you could summarise almost all the aspects of the crash investigation.... thumbs up... subscribed ... will go through all your videos and watch the next episodes ... highly appreciated...

[@martynh5410]

My phone crashed while watching this. I had to turn the phone off and on a few times to reset it. But seriously, a good video and RIP to the crew and passengers of this unfortunate incident.

[@erich930]

Some clarification: the governor adjusts propeller speed by changing the angle of the blades. Engine oil is used as a pseudo-hydraulic fluid to control blade angle. The propeller governor adjusts the propeller blade angle to keep the propeller RPM where the pilots want it. When oil is let into the prop hub, propeller angle decreases and rpm increases. When oil is let out, propeller blade angle increases and rpm decreases. Sounds like the blocked PVM prevented oil from exiting the prop system, which in turn prevented the propeller blade angle from increasing and feathering the prop. The pilots truly didn't stand a chance!

[@erich930]

Note: the overspeed governor is not the same one that is primary used for RPM control, it is only there for propeller overspeed protection.

[@thebige7302]

‘Climbed to 69%’ Nice

[@ashishgoswami6303]

Nice

[@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs]

In all honesty, I wasn't understanding your technical explanations tonight! ? What soothes me though is the fact that I've had a drink and a smokes, and the fact you said it's one of the most complex incidents you have tried to summarize .... Thanks for this video and I'm looking forwards to the next one..

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

I did not realize how complex turboprop engines were until I saw this explanation. There is no way that a typical pilot would know about all these built-in engine features. They have to rely on the maintenance people to follow the manufacturers' instructions, and hope that the alarm notification messages are clear enough for the aviation crew to take steps to overcome such issues in flight. But, obviously, this is not always going to be the case. Every person who flies on these passenger aircraft must accept the risk, and trust that all the support people have done their best work - and that the maker of the aircraft has created a safe machine. All the comments about whose god, prophet, or savior is involved must realize that it is humans that provide a safe trip, or lack thereof... no one else.

[@NicolaW72]

Thank you very much for this very detailled analysis of this sad crash!

[@brothergunns5055]

Now I know why the PIA is banned in so many countries.

[@timduncan9696]

Tea was very nice

[@rahul2000]

@@timduncan9696 so were those f16's

[@MayankKumar-ge7tb]

@@timduncan9696 and so was Bangladesh 😂😂😂

[@timduncan9696]

Mayank Kumar ok you got me that was a good one

[@brothergunns5055]

@@timduncan9696 shit😂😂. Just a joke. No offense.

[@StefunnyStrange]

This has got to be the scariest ride I've ever seen for the passengers. What a horrible way to die.

[@AntiZi0ntaxpayer]

That's an airline that taught 30 other airlines including Emirates and Saudia, how to fly, and in the meanwhile was reigned down by cultural incompetence itself, the last being in 2020.

[@Ducktility]

30 is a big number if true, but fortunately they didn't learn from PIA how to slaughter a goat on the tarmac for good luck, because that would have been ridiculous

[@manavchowdhury1337]

@@Ducktility lmao 🤣

[@darrellshoub7527]

THIS one was really chilling !

[@las10plagas]

I always wonder, how you can read what has happened from the parts left over after a crash. how do you know what's impact damage and what was broken before the crash? I can't even tell you in which way these investigators are amazing, because I can't comprehend how this works :-P

[@AviationNut]

You can actually tell if something broke off during flight or if it's impact damage there is some great documentaries here on KZbin explaining how that's done.

[@czerskip]

In principle, that's what you do your entire life: draw conclusions from previous experiences that include countless tests in controlled conditions. That's how it works.

[@omerbinsaadat4973]

@@AviationNut Pls provide links to these documentaries.

[@40rty7even4]

Much better quality video compared to your earlier ones, with footage of planes landing and taking off, on constant loop.

[@BoloSpectre]

I subscribed based on this video alone .. Well done 👍

[@maunawwarbeedasee4117]

By shutting down the damaged engine, the accident would not have happened, always remember to fly the plane first and remove all the obstacles to flying, sure the left engine would cause drag when it is off, yet it is better to have it off than having an engine running and causing more drag.

[@zaidyounas1602]

My uncle was among the unfortunates to travel in that airplane that day.

[@janesc9915]

That is a lie

[@janesc9915]

@rbj 108 but its categorically false. Look at his reply history. His uncle died on 9\11 in the hindenburg, at waco, at columbine, and at a baseball game

[@zaidyounas1602]

@@janesc9915 i don't need to explain anything to you

[@ghostzzelite9807]

Honestly I didnt ask

[@marinettedupain-cheng9930]

@@janesc9915 if it was ur uncle or dad, would u care now?

[@newbie3385]

Just found this channel yet already I like it more than any other air crash investigation yt channels :D

[@TheAviationGuyID]

A plane crashed off the coast of indonesia rn. Can you cover it soon? It was a sriwijaya air

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

No I won’t be covering it for a year to a year and a half. I’ want to wait for the full final report so that we have all the facts. A video right now would just be speculation and barely rooted in facts. Because no one really knows what happened. I’d rather let people like Juan Browne from the blancolirio channel make initial “what happened to flight 182 videos” because they know a lot more than me and they have years and years of experience to draw on. A video from me at this time would not do the people who have been affected by flight 182 Justice. Thank you for understanding

[@andrewthomas5540]

The bodies are hardly cold , yet you want it covered soon. How about showing some respect first. Such a cold attitude.

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

It’s not about having a cold attitude. Him like all of us just wanna know what happened. We’re all seeking answers and since I the topic he turned to me for answers. I highly doubt the people who want the incident to be covered are saying it from a bad place. They want answers we all do

[@TheAviationGuyID]

@@andrewthomas5540 Bruh i just wanted to know what happened

[@TheAviationGuyID]

@@andrewthomas5540 the news was not informative.

[@hakimali7751]

In that crash we lost our legend Junaid Jamshed

[@vippsmillennial6336]

Just depressed that I got to find this channel any sooner! Love your content!

[@kennyj4366]

That would be a horrible situation for any PIC to deal with. Thank you for the sharing.

[@nolimitsyk]

Junaid jamshed was lost that day he was a best singer i miss him

[@atifjaved5751]

he was nt singer at time of death

[@muhammadusmanjamil9325]

He left singing way before than this incident

[@caraame]

Wow definitely as good a channel as the flight channel and that is saying something. Just watched and subbed. Great work! Love the in depth commentary at the end!

[@CaptainJadenAR]

Everybody, sad news. Sriwijaya Air Flight 182 from Soekarn-Hatta Airport to Supadio Airport, Indonesia was mysteriously disappeared when it flying above the sea. Some claimed that the 737-500 crashed into the sea, killing all on board. I hope all of the passengers & crew are safe. 

[@diggilad781]

I know very sad

[@diggilad781]

Only a few hours ago

[@jetgraphy]

😢

[@jetgraphy]

Most likely all passangers and crew perished in the accident, because they nosedived 10.000 feet in less than one minute and exploded to the Java Sea. Also body parts have been found . 😞

[@diggilad781]

@@jetgraphy yep sad times

[@hack1n8r]

Well done at explaining the multiple failures causing the sad demise of this final flight. You're right, any one of those individual failures would be sufficiently worthy of their own episodes -- but instead of reporting on a catastrophe, you'd be reporting on seperate survivable incidents. One point of clarification on feathering, the act of changing the pitch of the propeller blades is not in itself called feathering -- instead, to feather means to put the propellers' pitch angle at or near 90° so that the airflow no longer is able to spin the propellers (think weather vaning) -- in that position, the drag caused by a non-powered propeller is at its absolute minimum. I know that's what you meant when you were describing the act of feathering, but I think it was either unclear or a little confusing at first... Again, well done explaining everything!

[@kurules3072]

I’m an ATP pilot. Your understanding and presentation was actually good. Is the video an example of PIA landings?? I’d be fired if I bounced a plane that bad lol

[@MiniAirCrashInvestigation]

The video is an example of my bad simulator skills 😂

[@zubibuubi7359]

@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation American...

[@Sashazur]

Is engine #1 the same as left side engine? You seem to have switched between those for terminology and it was a little confusing. But your videos are overall always improving and I love your channel!

[@midwesternrail4729]

Wait not 661... *That's always my flight number when I fly on Aeromexico.* Edit: Just look here: www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/am661

[@mominawan739]

It is an atr 42

[@deaf2819]

You’d be surprised how many things are fixed on these newer planes with turning something on and off again or simply pulling a circuit breaker / electronic circuit breaker.