The Podcast Wars are Heating Up!

In this clip, Marques, Andrew, and David discuss podcasting apps and podcasts in general. There's a lot going on and there are plenty of apps trying to become the default audio experience for users.
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[@BenMichaele]

Everyone’s faces at the 55% realization 😂

[@ChrisSpiegl]

As far as I know, it's the other way round (45% for KZbin & 55% for us KZbinrs). Small difference, but it works.

[@dyl_out]

HOW did they not already know that?? you'd think they'd be interested in how they get paid loll

[@CaesarIII]

@@dyl_out They get an amount of money. It doesn't really matter how much google is keeping, they never see this money in the first place

[@chitsanzokatholowamo459]

Switched to Pocket Cast once I heard Google podcasts was getting killed and I haven't looked back ever since

[@joshualebowitz]

Same here. Really like it so far.

[@AlexPrevost]

I see Pocket Casts in the thumbnail, I like and subscribe.

[@Dlutheran]

Podcasts

[@AlexPrevost]

@@Dlutheran Yes, this clip is about podcasts.

[@nickbu]

@@thisisbivo Mostly preference, but there're a lot more customization and control in Pocket Casts. Also it doesn't mix with music, if you care about that.

[@michaeljeacock]

I got Pocket Casts back when it was a onetime payment so got a lifetime plus membership given to me when it went monthly.

[@stevedoesnt]

I’ve been on pocket casts for years, and it’s the only one that seems even close to a well thought out design.

[@mind-of-neo]

I used to use apple podcasts when i discovered and got into podcasts over a decade ago. About 6 years ago or so i changed over to pocketcasts. I've never used anything else.

[@jacoblerette]

Have you tried apple podcast gain recently? They have added tons of feature such as real time transcripts.

[@pascool182]

there's a fart at 18:59 !!!!

[@AlexPrevost]

Would a condenser mic pick it up that far away?

[@ElectricityTaster]

@@AlexPrevost Depends how close your arse is to the mic and how loud the fart.

[@chetanamin1992]

lol yeah that was a fart indeed

[@davewarfel1]

😂

[@amitoj]

David does look sus 😂

[@darlingcat]

Rip Google podcasts

[@Thrawn90]

It was never a matter of if, only when

[@_____case]

KZbin Music seems to handle Podcasts well enough.

[@Derzut]

I switched to Apple Podcasts just because the immense amount of ads on Spotify even with premium the ads that are in podcasts on the podcaster side are fine and mostly implemented quite well but the Spotify ads where just horror so I’m grad I switched

[@agunloyeoke9842]

I use premium too and I'm not getting ads

[@Derzut]

@@agunloyeoke9842 it depends on the podcast you listen to

[@mr.nevanice420]

How do you get ads with premium? Isn’t that the point

[@aaronaustrie]

I use Spotify for podcasts

[@thesunnysarraf]

Me too. I mostly listen to Joe Rogan.

[@SinghalRishi27]

Shame on you

[@PetrolSniffingDoofus]

​@@thesunnysarraf lol

[@MattBasch]

Have you looked at the new Podcasting 2.0 standard? It adds some of the features you’re discussing. Might be interesting giving them some suggestions of other things to add or maybe doing an interview with them.

[@kareemellebany3559]

Pocket casts all the way. I love it. Keep trying other apps including Apple‘s but I go back to pocket casts in the end.

[@yupanquid5538]

I think the biggest difference between Apple and the rest of the platforms (re this subject) is that Apple Podcasts is part of their walled garden, where you can only use it in their own hardware

[@ekanastone]

Podcasts should not lock themselves down to one platform when Podcasts are already so free with RSS. Paid subscription podcasts can already be supported with things like Patreon or oven things like Substack or Ghost. Discoverability is hard for sure, but the trade off I think is far greater when you can still post to KZbin and funnel to your self-owned corners of the internet.

[@X_blacknet101]

There should be a poll on this topic I can't understand why anyone would use Apple Podcasts

[@JulianLopez-nd9ts]

I don’t use Apple Podcasts itself, but I do use Overcast which uses it for the backend.

[@nickbu]

I'd probably give it a shot if I had and only had Apple devices in every product category

[@nickbu]

Also, IMO Pocket Casts doesn't feel as good on iOS as it does on Android

[@Nyankos3nsei]

Because its the cleanest?

[@colindavidch]

Depends for something like waveform I prefer youtube because I like watching the boys but if it’s a audio podcast I tend to just use Apple Podcasts since I already have a lot of podcasts I follow and some of them I don’t even know if they post of KZbin

[@JustAnotherMe]

I think they are mostly thinking of "youtube but for podcasts"...but maybe instead we can have something like "imdb but for podcasts" for discoverability. Though, because of the RSS feeds being platform agnostic, the podcast listeners are on so many different apps and platforms, that that makes it different to get all of them to come to your new app that you created for discoverability.

[@MichalBrat]

Here in the EU the Google Podcasts app still works but I was offered no migration tool and the creators got no (or almost none AFAIK) support moving their podcasts to KZbin Music and now they just ignore it. It is just an incredible mess.

[@سعیداکبرزاده-غ7ه]

antennapod is my main podcast app now. and it’s open source and free. of course it’s just on android though

[@Mirtual]

Pocket casts is cool just wish their subscription prices made more sense for a podcast app, I want to support it but not at $100 a year

[@OLBastholm]

Especially if you, like me, already paid for the app before they made it free.

[@Mirtual]

@@OLBastholm that sucks, did you get anything permanent?

[@Tomcat-rj5tp]

Tasks is so simple and nice - My reminders app of choice on iPhone

[@oseyomoabiebhode]

I started out with Google Podcast, moved to Apple Podcasts when I move to iPhone, but anytime I have a secondary android phone I use Pocket Cast

[@mind-of-neo]

I'm not a big fan of paywalls, exclusivity, or removed episodes when it comes to podcasts. To me, podcast has a very specific definition that includes "freely accessible at anytime via rss feed"

[@JustinKingdp]

I think its cool that you all are in the talking and reviewing of tech, but I think it would be really interesting to see this group lead the development of tech/software's as well. Or at least talk about your thoughts on this idea on the pod.

[@kovelamanas9905]

"Close the ozone hole" 😂 but seriously you guys have a great vibe.

[@bunniz]

You guys should talk about podcasting 2.0 and value 4 value. Podcasting apps allow people to send boost to support podcast creators for the content they make and it's not tied to one specific podcast app

[@TofyLion]

I think saying ″google podcasts is dead″ is not very accurate. Yes, the app is dead, but the platform is not. It just merged into youtube music, and transferring your data is just one click

[@Mx.Hancock]

What is the percentage of people who listen to podcast vs. watch podcasts overall? I’m curious.

[@chadwickburdick9403]

Pocket cast mentioned

[@JessicaFyre]

11:35 describing 65square (except without the ads)

[@OmarCordy]

KZbin music for podcasts is kinda annoying. It doesn't show my podcast correctly, things are all out of order then try it later and it's fine, once...

[@reesestellwagon7042]

I've tried YT music for podcasts. After the episode you chose to listen to it plays a random podcast out of thin air. Idk if that's a discoverability feature or not. I've listened to some podcasts I probably wouldn't have chosen thought.

[@reinwzhang]

There needs to be a donate button in this episode

[@FuturePortal911]

Right now im watching this on KZbin because i had a push from it with preview picture about closing google podcast but there is no episode yet in google podcast 😢

[@marlonmoises6598]

What is activity hub or bub?

[@aps-pictures9335]

So listening to this as a video in my pocket, pays more than a podcast on here? (KZbin Premium).

[@erickalvarado7252]

random question. Is any of those gray triangles on the backround middle gray? can i get "perfect" exposure with those?

[@jeanm3506]

Please don’t lock down your podcasts and allow these conglomerates to control these platforms. I use Spotify and KZbin to watch and listen to this podcast. Would suck if that changed

[@alex.delcastillo]

Why no chapters on this video? 🤔

[@kwicksandz]

Its kinda shocking to me that someone as deep in the tech scene as mkb didnt know spotify had more users than apple music or podcasts. The apple walled garden is pretty blinding

[@GunFitGamer]

Making a phone I prob would definitely buy! I feel like it would be perfectly balanced

[@titan-uc]

I really live Google Podcasts. And i really don't want to Change to KZbin because i would need a KZbin music subscription to listen to Podcasts while my Phone ist locked ... And Spotify ist really nit an option AS i like the Idea of seperate App for Podcasts.

[@Shadowgardenenigma]

Majority of the podcasts I watch are video podcasts on KZbin

[@JasonSaylor-l2h]

That intro is still painful 😂

[@amitoj]

Copy comment but if anyone wants to hear *likely* David’s fart 😂 18:59

[@skyscraperfan]

I was shocked when I learned that Google takes a 30% cut from all "super chats" on KZbin. Those super chats are basically donations from the fans to the creator and it seems highly unethical to take a cut of a donation of any kind. The problem is that the donors are not even aware of that. I saw a $500 super chat and I am pretty sure that the donor would be furious if he learned that $150 of that go to Google. Patreon for example takes a much smaller cut.

[@Vandal42]

Everyone pays for "discoverability" via apple - So no one is "discovered" and Apple gets paid. ugh

[@EdgarHernandez-bf7kq]

I use Pocket Casts

[@LC34999]

Google cancelled Podcasts, real shocker

[@Dlutheran]

Google cancels everything

[@juniorwmg]

Yeah, because Podcasts are now on KZbin.

[@Dan01126]

Google says youtube takes 45%

[@ericd1084]

How do you listen to a podcast with your eyeballs? 🤔

[@TravisMacMillan]

Spotify... tired of Apple now. I need to start drifting away from their captured garden.

[@itssuhaibalrumi]

even yt is bad at discoverability, when was the last time u discovered new good content from the discover or home tab? almost never

[@richardlanham4415]

I use Downcast.

[@BenDMitchell]

I love Overcast

[@RomeroEli2105]

The only person in this podcast who is unbiased is Marques, the other 2 were talking shit about Apple for taking 30% and the minute they heard youtube takes 55% suddenly that's okay.

[@erikaustin4223]

I have KZbin premium, so KZbin I’d my dominate podcast platform

[@MrGhostTheBigRoast]

Antennapod gang

[@juniorwmg]

"Google cancelled podcasts" Yeah, because Podcasts are now on KZbin.

[@LiamHaHaX]

Not all of them

[@THExDUDEx8624]

@LiamHaHaX Yeah, at least RSS works really well on KZbin Music now. I like the Google Podcasts app because I loved how simple it was. It just worked.

[@chizusyosilwamba8036]

RIP Google podcast

[@AlexCatrambone]

tell me Marques isn't high AF here LOLLLL

[@gunneone]

Podcast Addict > anything else.

[@Appl3-p13]

I read this and immediately downloaded it. I need something better than youtube music but podcasts

[@JanZamani]

Yessss

[@itssuhaibalrumi]

20:45 😹

[@Seahawksnumber1]

It's crazy how Google kills off popular apps like Google podcasts that I've used for years. some of Google's decisions are strange.

[@AlazarDebebe-ug4cy]

I heard about Google podcast being discontinued but I'm still using the podcast till this day nothing has changed. Why is this?

[@joshualebowitz]

It didn’t stop working for you?

[@drwigglechin]

RIP Google Podcast 🙏

[@ethanmenzel]

Apple knows they failed with music but they don’t want to fall into the same situation with podcast.

[@area352recs]

Speed of Sound Radio Show on Pocket Cast is dope.❤

[@joshi-toshi]

the was the best worst first minute ever

[@samuelroa3743]

Microfiber

[@imik3y]

18:59 who farted?

[@imik3y]

21:33 again!

[@Dankbuds]

I feel like waveform episodes and clips are just the guys shitting on anything apple. We get it, you like android phones.

[@stevedoesnt]

When podcasts go full capitalism, I’m out.

[@stevedoesnt]

Excluding the patreon style earnings

[@amitoj]

Petition to keep clips channel under 10 minutes! This is disgusting

[@khall187]

Stop. Everything is relevant to the topic. Schmucks complaining over free content always cracks me up.

[@ahmedayaanle955]

🍎

[@chasechase24]

1st

[@kristinchong629]

Saint internet. Not that I know anything Apple hacking all those yes men cause there was actually tech they want to democratize and not like be like just zombie purchasing. Like what r they doing to those teens. Like yeah broadcast journalism isn’t fun but like what the hell do those teens have critical language skills.

[@sonofsamwaters8350]

Marques is insufferable. Unsubbing and buying something from dbrand. Later

[@SeanTube2099]

It’s so weird that he’s against a company leveraging their products to make money. Wait until he gets out into the big wide world!!

[@Pizzanomicz]

I use Spotify because it's just so convenient lol

[@CaesarIII]

using podcast addict and it's great - with discover etc

[@nathan_allen]

I'm the only person on earth who uses Podcast Republic, but I can't vibe with anything else

[@80-80.]

I am never going to use spotify or anything apple to listen to people talk. Everything should be on KZbin

[@agunloyeoke9842]

Spotify is actually great for podcasts

[@khall187]

Spotify is awesome for pods. Plus they are far less heavy with the "ban hammer" so long form discussions are MUCH better because people aren't constantly self censoring over fear of demonetization

[@agunloyeoke9842]

At some point I was considering moving away from Spotify, I tried a couple of apps but eventually moved back to Spotify

[@BenjaminKeller]

Why is KZbin better than the others? It's clearly worse because you can't even listen without the screen on.

[@Travisharger]

Apple for Podcasts

[@IronLad]

Wynk music and podcast And Eight podcast are best❤❤

[@ElectricityTaster]

technically google is moving podcasts to google music.

[@sankhaK]

Marcus broke everyone by saying revealing 55% thing. They realized they have all been working for KZbin all these years.