The Pokemon Anime Just Enraged EVERYONE.

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@Pokeferlax
@Pokeferlax 4 ай бұрын
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@biggybird8587
@biggybird8587 4 ай бұрын
Hi
@dylanbethel3402
@dylanbethel3402 4 ай бұрын
Pokerferlax d goat
@zack6283
@zack6283 4 ай бұрын
Good video
@snowkitty1914
@snowkitty1914 3 ай бұрын
Why is your voice so weird? Do you use AI?
@JoakimFriberg
@JoakimFriberg 3 ай бұрын
Who the hell watch pokemon it just for kids lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Adrian-ze9ud
@Adrian-ze9ud 4 ай бұрын
I really love his philosophy. It's literally: "I didn't see reality come until it destroyed my dreams, so I'm going to show it to you before it breaks yours."
@Pokeferlax
@Pokeferlax 3 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s worded so incredibly perfectly. It’s so hard-hitting. And it really does make so much sense for his character. Thank you for sharing! 🙏🏻
@730Flare
@730Flare 3 ай бұрын
That is one way to interpret it: Prior to his incident, Grusha probably thought he was on the top of the world, that nothing can go wrong for him, until his accident happened.
@dots108
@dots108 3 ай бұрын
@Adrian-ze9ud that’s probably the best way I’ve ever heard anyone put it. In a sense tho he is right ’cause Amethio isn’t gonna let Liko have the pendant just because she tried hard.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@Adrian-ze9ud I guess the accident taught him not to take what he had for granted
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@dots108 it's not really a pendant anymore is it
@МихаилЛотов-о8э
@МихаилЛотов-о8э 4 ай бұрын
I love, how Dot and Roy immediately asked Grusha for allowing Liko a rematch. True homies right here. Damn, Grusha needs a hug, lol
@Pokeferlax
@Pokeferlax 4 ай бұрын
Honestly the way Roy and Dot reacted in this episode genuinely stood out to me so much. I love that trio, but in this episode, they REALLY felt like best friends to me. Roy and Dot were totally there for Liko, and were totally willing to speak up for her when they disagreed with Grusha. It put a big smile on my face 😁
@RaptorofRex07
@RaptorofRex07 4 ай бұрын
Oh Grusha needs something alright.
@OpalFedora92
@OpalFedora92 4 ай бұрын
A boot to the head​@@RaptorofRex07
@shingwu2481
@shingwu2481 4 ай бұрын
I think Grusha will give her another chance after Liko beat Explorer and ask him to give her another chance to beat him
@RaptorofRex07
@RaptorofRex07 3 ай бұрын
@@OpalFedora92 I was going to suggest a kick in the butt but I like your idea better
@Roseberry606
@Roseberry606 4 ай бұрын
I think what hits me the hardest about grusha here is how realistic he is, i KNOW people irl who act just like him and it gives me the chills
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Liko will beat the last gym leader
@Pokeferlax
@Pokeferlax 4 ай бұрын
For real! There's so many folks out there in the world who have that same mentality as Grusha, and highlighting that in the anime is such a great idea. It's so much more unique and interesting than if he just acted the exact same as every other Gym Leader!
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@Roseberry606 sometimes it's the right mentality of have. Either you get results or you're not successful
@supersims796
@supersims796 3 ай бұрын
​@@eljordinio7647 True, but it's an absolutely terrible one to have when you're trying to encourage growth.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@supersims796 being mollycoddling and handing out passes through pity despite failure isn't any better If you're not given a painful lesson after constant failures, you won't have the necessary drive to get better nor will u understand that failure has consequences
@Aditya17-v3p
@Aditya17-v3p 4 ай бұрын
"Liko failed because of a flaw in Grusha's character." The best line I had heard after watching the episode.
@Pokeferlax
@Pokeferlax 4 ай бұрын
I think it sums up what happened in this episode perfectly! And hopefully that flaw in Grusha's character will be further explored in a future episode, and will allow for character development (for both Grusha AND Liko) that will give Liko another chance to battle him 🔥
@adityasrijan1149
@adityasrijan1149 4 ай бұрын
Yo! true, i am going to use this statement against every counter argument about this ep.
@ShiningStar5022
@ShiningStar5022 4 ай бұрын
@@Pokeferlax Well, based on leaks, Grusha will appear in episode 65 so…
@ChrisPTY507
@ChrisPTY507 4 ай бұрын
@@ShiningStar5022 What leaks? They're most likely fake.
@sumayyahqamar2007
@sumayyahqamar2007 4 ай бұрын
No
@kaffka9221
@kaffka9221 4 ай бұрын
4:20 That's because it *- is -* an Ash Ketchum strategy. In the Hoenn League, Ash's Corphish defeated Dominick's Swalot by firing bubblebeam into the latter's more vulnerable mouth.
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
And Pikachu once defeated a giant Rhydon by using a Thundershock in the mouth after Meowth tickled it to get it to open its mouth
@numberhunter62
@numberhunter62 4 ай бұрын
The line Grusha has about despair crushing you down at a moment's notice was both raw and telling of his feelings of the past incident. I also think Grusha was the perfect pick for Liko, someone who's about emotions and connections has to deal with someone who's heart has become frozen.
@Thisiswild1
@Thisiswild1 4 ай бұрын
Yes I really do think Grusha was a good pick for her maybe she will stop being so weak and actually pick up the pace like Roy
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 4 ай бұрын
@@Thisiswild1 She was better than Roy, she came up with better tactics than he did overall in the anime, and she is hardly weak. She was the only one to evolve 2 of her Pokémon.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 and yet she can't defeat even one gym leader. That is pathetic
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@Thisiswild1 hopefully
@numberhunter62
@numberhunter62 3 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 It took Ash 4 tries to legitimately defeat his first Gym Leader, and that only being Lt. Surge. Honestly Horizons actually makes the Gym Leaders look competent at battling so it doesn't bother me.
@supremeseregios6810
@supremeseregios6810 4 ай бұрын
Pros of this episode: • Grusha Backstory being visualised in the anime • Not much filler in the episode, and the battle starts quite early before the ad break, which is good. • Liko's strategies were definitely impressive. Cons of this episode: • Mostly just Grusha's result of the test, and refusal to rematch. I don't personally mind anyways, it makes Grusha extremely imposing and worth his strength as a gym leader. Overall I would give this a 7/10. Whatever conflict this episode has provided because of Grusha, I can mind it if the upcoming episodes give Liko the second chance she deserves, which they likely will. Because of the upcoming episodes being more focused on Liko and Amethio however, I guess we won't see this until or after episode 66.
@Pokeferlax
@Pokeferlax 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed the episode too! I agree with all your points! 😁
@supremeseregios6810
@supremeseregios6810 4 ай бұрын
@@Pokeferlax Thanks!
@fubukifangirl
@fubukifangirl 4 ай бұрын
Another pro is how beautifully animated Grusha was when he terastalized Altaria. That was "chef's kiss".
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@supremeseregios6810 my main con, Liko straight up losing
@matthewyessaian9240
@matthewyessaian9240 3 ай бұрын
I hope liko will battle Grusha again and Liko will prove herself who she truly is
@yozenyt
@yozenyt 4 ай бұрын
the magical leaf into cetitan's mouth reminds me so much of ash's pikachu slipping a piece of wood into aegislash in the kalos league
@kaffka9221
@kaffka9221 4 ай бұрын
I'd say that moment more resembles how Ash's Corphish defeated a Swalot in the Hoenn league by aiming bubblebeam into Swalot's mouth.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@kaffka9221 or how Conway had shuckle fire sludge bomb into gible's mouth
@yozenyt
@yozenyt 3 ай бұрын
@@kaffka9221 yeah thats very much true
@rainbowpegacornstudios
@rainbowpegacornstudios 3 ай бұрын
I'd say Ash's Totodile defeating a Kingdra in the Whirl Cup competition by clamping its mouth shut as it was preparing to use Hydro Pump.
@GreenJuiceGuy27
@GreenJuiceGuy27 4 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that Grusha said that Liko can't re-challange him. Liko didn't just fail her implementation test, but failed the entire course. So I wonder what is going to happen to get Grusha to let Liko recalling him.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@GreenJuiceGuy27 my bet is Grusha will witness Liko either winning a battle against somebody else, or watching her determination that he is moved to give her a break and re challenge him But it won't be for a while
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@SunnyBunny148 either that or she'll have to fight someone else. You can't always expect people to change their mind on things even when compelled to
@xenophacilus5895
@xenophacilus5895 3 ай бұрын
Dang Liko will be held back a year and Dot and Roy will move up a grade Rip
@shadowwizard2383
@shadowwizard2383 3 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647you do know we only have 6ep left of this arc before we leave paldea right so no it won’t be a while. If they do have the RVT vs explorers for 4ep like I think they are going to then the last 2ep will be liko vs grusha rematch. Then they leave for sinnoh or johto most likely.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@shadowwizard2383 if there is a rematch, Liko better win for her sake, or else she's not going to be worth squat or be better equipped to handle what's in front of her
@Omnislash7
@Omnislash7 3 ай бұрын
I feel like this was a necessary lesson for Liko harsh though it may be. If one is constantly able to skirt by by passing in spite of failure, it will only serve as a detriment to them as they become complacent. And with the likes of the Explorers after her, there are no second chances in the face of defeat
@adventurebonni5
@adventurebonni5 4 ай бұрын
This Horizons literally tell realistic story instead of mc saved the day, survive from risky moment or plot armor.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
And look where it's led. This battle has already gotten a ton of flack for the outcome
@45TRANSFORMERSFAN
@45TRANSFORMERSFAN 4 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 Sometimes in life, people are going to criticize you for the losses you make. That's the harsh reality. But you keep on fighting, and when you do win, it'll be worth it.
@toureyounouss7897
@toureyounouss7897 4 ай бұрын
I agree
@gelnart25
@gelnart25 4 ай бұрын
​​@Opprxssor6666 bro don't compare ash's journey to liko and friends. ash needs to win because he needs it to get the badge and compete in the league. While liko and friends do it to get stronger. They failed because of a lack of training. Ever since Journey starts, battling random trainers are less. They'll battling gym leaders not just ordinary trainers. Ash also fails even training hard. I like horizons but please don't compare ash to them.
@sukrieomar9071
@sukrieomar9071 4 ай бұрын
'Realistic' is a strong word here. It's true that this is no longer anime with 'mc save the day' plot. But still, the mc of this anime is technically the 'Chosen One' like the previous series
@anyathepanther7977
@anyathepanther7977 4 ай бұрын
We Germans have a Phrase: The journey is the goal. The way how you reach your destination is more important than the Destination itself.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@anyathepanther7977 that isn't always a good mentality to have
@716_ハディくん
@716_ハディくん 3 ай бұрын
​@@eljordinio7647stop crying kid 😂
@CiciColino
@CiciColino 3 ай бұрын
1) That's a saying in virtually every language on the planet 2) It's not a particularly good saying
@anyathepanther7977
@anyathepanther7977 3 ай бұрын
@@CiciColino how old are you? Becouse this is a Phrase you only really appreciate with experience.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@716_ハディくん shut up. No point praising a journey when it constantly screws up. Like the series literally called journeys
@vrose23
@vrose23 4 ай бұрын
This episode highlighted the general issue I have with how the terastal course is being handled compared to the games. Grusha makes a comment about differences in skill level and like, of course there are - these kids are still beginner trainers, they’re literally not allowed to terastalize outside of these official course battles. Why would they have comparable experience to that of gym leaders?
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Grusha will had to win
@what.are.you.doing.stepbro
@what.are.you.doing.stepbro 4 ай бұрын
That's why the other gym leaders went easy on them and passed them even after losing the battle. But Grusha is different. He didn’t even give himself a second chance after he got injured n didnt win so he thinks there's no do overs in real life if they lost to an evil foe that's why he thinks its a joke to pass her after she lost
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@vrose23 not to mention some passes aren't given out the right way. They should win the battle to completely pass the test and they're not prioritising winning enough
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@what.are.you.doing.stepbro even so it's more rewarding to get a pass after getting a win. Only getting passed despite losing is like Ash getting his badges out of pity rather than properly earning them
@kochfeemiri663
@kochfeemiri663 3 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647they didn‘t Battle for badges. It‘s a School course for beginners!
@fubukifangirl
@fubukifangirl 4 ай бұрын
I'm not enraged. I suspect that Grusha is testing Liko. He didn't take an interest in her for no reason. I think he sees that she has potential and wants to see if Liko is willing to fight on rather than give up. I don't think he wants to see Liko give up her goals like he did.
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Liko was so weak compared to serena
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@fubukifangirl if he saw her potential he shouldn't have been so cruel to her. At least give her a second chance to redeem herself
@fubukifangirl
@fubukifangirl 4 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 Like I said, I think he wants to see what she will do first. If she refuses to give up, I think he will agree to give her another chance. I mean, we all know that's going to happen. They're not going to let Roy and Dot get Tera Orbs and not Liko, especially since Liko needs it to awaken Terapagos' full power and I guarantee that's going to happen at some point.
@ShiningStar5022
@ShiningStar5022 4 ай бұрын
@@fubukifangirl Ooh, a secret test of character, that makes sense.
@kinganthony5885
@kinganthony5885 4 ай бұрын
​@@leviristich5211serena also not great fighter ether😑
@MrHeadcannonMrHeadcannon
@MrHeadcannonMrHeadcannon 4 ай бұрын
This episode kinda reminds me of the first time Ash faced Wulfric where the SNOWBELLE Gym Leader dealt him and GRENINJA a crushing defeat.
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
I hope ash serena Clemont bonnie and Gohan will had pokemon battles
@MrHeadcannonMrHeadcannon
@MrHeadcannonMrHeadcannon 4 ай бұрын
I say this because Wulfric and Grusha are the same in four different areas. 1. They're Ice type Gym Leaders 2. They're usually the last Gym Leaders in their respective regions. 3. They roundly defeated a main character in their initial match. 4. There's a gap between their initial matches and the rematches as it doesn't seem like Liko will be trying again for a while.
@wikiuser92
@wikiuser92 4 ай бұрын
Why did you highlight the words for Snowbelle and Greninja?
@MrHeadcannonMrHeadcannon
@MrHeadcannonMrHeadcannon 4 ай бұрын
@@wikiuser92 Just my style.
@dylanchua5197
@dylanchua5197 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully in the rematch it will be like when Ash and Greninja got their revenge against Wulfric
@deviantgazer4626
@deviantgazer4626 4 ай бұрын
While I was upset that Liko's test was deemed as a failure with no possible rematch, it's sort of makes sense in multiple regards not just for her character but for Grusha's character too. Liko was never a strong battler and she does not have much experience with battling, not to mention Hattrem doesnt have much battling experience either. I want to highlight one of the statements that Grusha made at the end, "In a real battle there are no rematches". This outlook is negative but it has real weight behind it. The gym leader does not know what these kids have gone through or will go through in the future, but he is trying to put across that you need to take every battle as serious as if it is your last. At least that is the way I interpreted it
@anonymousfan1008
@anonymousfan1008 4 ай бұрын
Liko still has a chance to pass in one of two ways. 1. Grusha will see her battle against Amethio and realize he was wrong and either pass her or allow a rematch. 2. Liko will save the school from the explorers and they will let her keep Tera orb as a thank you.
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 4 ай бұрын
Those are both good theories, but even if Grusha allows a rematch, will it end any differently? And I don't think the Explorers are actually planning anything against the Academy. Their targets are still Terapagos and Liko herself.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@anonymousfan1008 good theories. Hopefully Grusha does allow a rematch later cos not doing so and having Liko pass another way feels like a cop out
@DarkEclipse23
@DarkEclipse23 3 ай бұрын
So basically ash from series 1 that everyone b*tches about existing. But Liko’s a chick so i guess it’s fine being kiss her a*s for it.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@SunnyBunny148 this isn't a regular gym battle so he can deny anyone who is unworthy in his eyes. Liko failed and she must pay the price for it Even if she eventually does get her rematch, right now, she must face the consequences for her weakness
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@SunnyBunny148 they still won't pass you if you don't deliver adequate results. You do know fail grades exist don't you? And that's basically what Liko got
@rhettmitchell
@rhettmitchell 3 ай бұрын
I know we already got the resolution to this now, but yeah, back when I watched it, I thought it was fucked up that Grusha didn’t even think to give Liko a second chance, considering how well she did against 2 of his Pokémon that were super effective against Floragato. Like, she’s still a new trainer and he’s expecting her to beat 2 of his Pokémon that both have type advantages over her? He’s literally a professional Pokémon Trainer. The fact he gives her no slack on his decision to fail her is CRAZY to me. It is really fitting for his character though, so it does make sense. And I’m glad the protagonist doesn’t just have endless plot armor, and all the main cast still lose sometimes and learn from their mistakes every time. I’m glad Liko eventually ended up passing by helping to save the entire school and Grusha admitting he had her all wrong
@13CrystalHeart
@13CrystalHeart 4 ай бұрын
It would be very surprising if they kept these consequences of losing, especially with a big battle with the Explorers coming up. I'm wondering if they'll somehow involve Grusha in the situation, like if Dot and Roy go to him for help (especially considering the danger Spinel put them all in before, and what he did to Liko. You mind wipe a child on an icy mountain, and she'll die.) or if, since we see him wandering around on the mountain earlier in the episode, if he catches sight of the battle on his own, and he gives her another chance since he realizes the gravity of her situation, why she kind of needs that Tera Orb.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@13CrystalHeart that seems to be the most likely outcome
@JayPLVN
@JayPLVN 3 ай бұрын
Love that this episode shows us that the Pokemon world can be cruel too, just like the real world. Last year was such a busy year for me, so I stopped watching at like episode 9, glad I came back and binged it, now can't wait for the next episode.
@Aditya17-v3p
@Aditya17-v3p 4 ай бұрын
I loved this episode. Liko's getting a real tough way to reach the top. Grusha was so harsh, Ryme is nothing in front of him. I had quite expected that she would lose the battle, but failing and getting denied a rematch, that was brutal. My favourite scene from the episode, Grusha insulted Katy, Iono and Larry with a single line, "Passing you despite losing the battle, what a frigid joke!'
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Grusha is last gym leader
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@Aditya17-v3p I mean he had a point. That's like Ash getting his badges without earning them properly
@Aditya17-v3p
@Aditya17-v3p 4 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 Well, you said that right. I am feeling bad for Liko, but I can't stop agreeing to that quote of his.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@Aditya17-v3p you'd think getting brutally crushed by Rika would have gotten through to Liko, but apparently not. Even though Liko has embraced battling fully now, she's still weak as heck, which is disgraceful cos she actually has a proper IQ when it comes to battling. I mean even I gotta admit her strats are pretty insane and something Ash would do
@Aditya17-v3p
@Aditya17-v3p 4 ай бұрын
​@@eljordinio7647Ig this arc would help her in getting stronger. Hopes are high from my side and Ik, Liko never disappoints me. 🤞🏻
@theblackman73
@theblackman73 3 ай бұрын
BRO THIS REAL RAP, THIS AINT NO JOKE. you take a test with a requirement that you didn't hit, you say you tried your best and still don't pass. I get it's a kid show but you gotta have some form of reality. seemed like a good episode i never watched.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@theblackman73 someone gets it
@Vivyelnn_0102
@Vivyelnn_0102 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I definitely agree
@ShimmeryKaylaAce
@ShimmeryKaylaAce 4 ай бұрын
Poor, Liko... 😭 Grusha should change his mind and tell her that he was wrong about putting results above everyone else and ask her for a rematch. I hope it can happen. 🌟
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@ShimmeryKaylaAce for all we know he probably will, but Liko has to earn that
@thesurp72520
@thesurp72520 4 ай бұрын
I don't think that'll happen. We've seen Grusha to be pretty set in his ways, and it's realistic, even if you do well, life doesn't always work out.
@ska187
@ska187 4 ай бұрын
Welcome to reality, kid. Get back to your warehouse job. Life doesn’t work out for everyone
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@thesurp72520 so what's Liko going to do then? She's got to beat someone to pass her second test
@BetterLife365-e1c
@BetterLife365-e1c 3 ай бұрын
Personally I really like this! I agree liko was failed because of a flaw in Grusha’s own character but if you really think about it he’s right. At the end of the day liko battled well but she still lost. It’s the dose of reality this group needed. Even tho liko inherently didn’t do anything wrong she still could’ve prepared better. This is the equivalent to a student not studying for an exam, failing it, then asking for extra credit. ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES and I will always stand on that. Liko can either take her loss and be defeated over it, beg grusha for a rematch, or take this as a lesson to move forward it’s all on her. Plus Liko is sort of the defacto leader of the group so how she handles this will influence Dot and Roy as well. One thing tho I really don’t like how people are hating on grusha and using his past against him. I believe how a person deals with their past shapes their character in the present how I see it grusha pivoted from a devastating career injury and made a name for himself In another field. THATS NOT EASY. Grusha’s character did change but people calling him out on failing Liko because of his all or nothing type of personality just seems immature and petty. We learned about Grusha’s backstory from someone else. We don’t know how he truly felt about everything. I want to learn more about him in the future and see how liko grows from this episode. Overall I loved this episode just the dose of reality the cast needed. NO MORE BAILOUTS TO ACHIVE YOUR GOALS YOU NEED TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THE LINE AND IF YOU LOSE CONSEQUENCES WILL COME ITS A CRUEL BUT TRUE LESSON.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@BetterLife365-e1c someone with common sense Grusha had every right to fail Liko
@limwater8230
@limwater8230 3 ай бұрын
It’s tragically true. Just because you do your best, doesn’t mean you should win or be rewarded. You can’t expect handouts or pity. You just need to keep working, learn from mistakes, take losses, keep at it until it works, or try to find another way. The world is too beautifully cruel to avoid getting hurt.
@МихаилЛотов-о8э
@МихаилЛотов-о8э 4 ай бұрын
This was a good episode with pretty great Grusha's backstory as well While Roy got 1-1 in it's first Ryme fight, and Liko got swept here, i feel like she performed way better here than Roy. She constantly uses different strategies during the battle (like using Magical Leaf into Cetitan's mouth to stop its attack or stopping Altaria's Moonblast spam by catching its legs with yo-yo and slamming into the ground with Acrobatics). That's type of s**t, that Ash would do honestly. Hattrem was eh but showed way better than Kilowattrel (at least she damaged Cetitan a bit). She uses Tera at the right time and Magical Leaf/ Ice Beam clash was really clean. Yet Grusha didn't pass her with no rematch, not because she did something wrong, but simply because Liko lost the battle. I feel like, rematch is upcoming. Maybe Liko will do something in 64-65, to let Grusha reconsider his decision and allowing for retry.
@sep1.2.37
@sep1.2.37 4 ай бұрын
I agree liko tried her best despite being on that scary disadvantage I believe grusha has to give her a rematch.
@SBaby
@SBaby 4 ай бұрын
I think really what it is, is that Grusha is more hiding behind his past and using that as an excuse to have the attitude he has. Or to put it another way, he had one setback and just gave up on that entire career because of it instead of overcoming it. Basically, Grusha is your prototypical competitive gamer. So it'll be interesting to see how that changes in the episodes to come. It's clear that based on previous episodes, this is going to be resolved in an episode or two. And it might take Grusha getting a major ego check in order to snap out of this mentality and make him realize there's more to life than the best results. Unlike what he was doing before becoming a Gym Leader, you can't quit on your Pokemon just because you lose a battle or have a setback.
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
If you tell me grusha is the last gym leader before the final battle arc
@SBaby
@SBaby 3 ай бұрын
@@leviristich5211 The thing is, I don't know when it comes to this series. I know the mandate was that Paldea had to be represented in the series, because that's always the mandate. But there could be a whole other season of this series after they're done in Paldea. In fact, I have a pretty good idea of where this series is going. If Friede comes back with a new upgraded airship, then the last part of the series is probably going to be amazing.
@jediclonekag13
@jediclonekag13 4 ай бұрын
I just watched this episode a few minutes ago, and I really enjoyed it. I loved Grusha's backstory and Liko's strategies, but I felt really sorry for Liko in the end. Hopefully, after the next few episodes, she will have her rematch against Grusha and pass her implementation test. Overall, I give this episode a 9/10.
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
The next episode is liko vs amethio
@ShiningStar5022
@ShiningStar5022 4 ай бұрын
@@leviristich5211 they said next few episodes, as in episode 66
@firemiracle
@firemiracle 3 ай бұрын
I do like to think that grusha is testing her. Like maybe he wants to see if liko can still be capable to keep moving forward and not give up just like how he gave up on his own dream. Idk it’s just my theory about this 🤔
@mrcwillis6970
@mrcwillis6970 4 ай бұрын
Loved this episode, was a sweet time for the characters to play in the snow, and the battle was pretty enjoyable. Liked the strategy used. Plus the backstory for Grusha was nice to actually see. Grusha bit too harsh, but that’s his flaws. Kinda fitting how cold it was when he’s a ice gym. Hopefully rematch will be soon, like Roy had. At the end of the day all you can do is try, it might not always be enough but again if you aren’t even gonna do your best there’s no point.
@LrnecBuma
@LrnecBuma 3 ай бұрын
Outrage seams to miss the clearly stated character arc of both Liko thinking about what is important to indivudual trainers and Grusha taking winning seriously. If you have any sense of story telling the first act is losing due to grusha taking winning seriously, mid act is liko reflecting and seeing whats at the heart of grushas decision. The final act is either a basic rematch to confront this ooor the Ash route of them both getting lost on the mountain or they rescue a Cetodle and have to survive nature to get home and grusha sees the error of their ways
@45TRANSFORMERSFAN
@45TRANSFORMERSFAN 4 ай бұрын
While I was quite miffed about Liko losing again, I kinda like how this might setup her eventual rematch as a truly banger of a fight. Seeing that the next episode could see her fight Amethio, this might give her the chance to truly shine and face Grusha with even greater conviction. Just... God damn it, don't make her lose a third time... EDIT: Forgot to mention; your words about Liko's failure because of Grusha's fault rang true. I always felt this episode was less about Liko losing than Grusha being a jerk. Maybe the next episode he'll truly see just how true a fighter she can be. And if she wins, it'll truly bring the best out of her; a strategist AND a winner :)
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Let me guess liko is so weak compared to serena
@Thisiswild1
@Thisiswild1 4 ай бұрын
@@leviristich5211Liko is cool honestly but she didn’t show much progress in the battle other than using magical leaf in the Pokémon’s mouth aswell as the yo-yo grabbing altaria’s leg but other than that she didn’t really land many hits
@psychicmaster92
@psychicmaster92 4 ай бұрын
Considering Liko was battling at a massive disadvantage, I feel she did pretty well in the battle. Hopefully things with Grusha gets worked out before she leaves the mountain.
@MasterofChaldea015
@MasterofChaldea015 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad to know that there are people who recognize that at least Liko fought well
@Thisiswild1
@Thisiswild1 4 ай бұрын
@@MasterofChaldea015she was alright
@glitchy_weasel
@glitchy_weasel 4 ай бұрын
@@MasterofChaldea015 She fought amazingly, but still it's kind of lame that she didn't win a single one of her Terastal course battles. I feel like the writers should have at least given her the win against Katy since that was the only battle where she didn't had type disadvantage from the start.
@MasterofChaldea015
@MasterofChaldea015 4 ай бұрын
@@glitchy_weasel I thought about something; Liko technically failed the course but I think she can try again and if she tries again maybe they'll make her fight against Tulip and Algaro
@glitchy_weasel
@glitchy_weasel 4 ай бұрын
@@MasterofChaldea015 Ugh, I don't know; I feel like that would drag the Terastal Debut arc too long. Obviously Liko has to pass somehow, it'd feel almost pointless if she is only one that doesn't get to graduate from the academy, so we'll see what the writers do.
@Spinel_Virgo
@Spinel_Virgo 4 ай бұрын
Poor Liko, she doesn't deserve a cruel fail in her terastal implementation, but Grusha is really a cold guy, tbh. If only Liko had her test with Tulip, maybe she will pass or at least has her rematch like Roy and eventually pass. Hope she will have her second chance, good luck Liko.
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Maybe grusha wins
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@Spinel_Virgo she kinda did for not producing results
@dileshamcwashington2430
@dileshamcwashington2430 4 ай бұрын
to be fair in regular gym battles, contest, pokemon leagues etc a loss is a loss. doesnt matter how it happened (long as team rocket wasnt involved) so in that sense our icy friend has a point, there are no participation medals in life.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@dileshamcwashington2430 you clearly get it
@bluephoenix4241
@bluephoenix4241 4 ай бұрын
I miss the days where the word controversial was more impactful.
@josephlouisbondoc7918
@josephlouisbondoc7918 3 ай бұрын
i hope it wont banned like dude pokemon is not always sunshine
@Ningflingslinger
@Ningflingslinger 3 ай бұрын
Why is everyone so butthurt at Grusha here? This is how it works in the mainline games. You don't get badges and progress by "doing your best". You get it by *winning*. If you lose, tough beans, back to the PokéCenter with you, wallet lighter and everything. Try again after you grind some more.
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
It’s also more realistic in that you don’t pass tests you did your best but still got low scores in. People keep seeing it as how it should be more like a Gym battle, even while saying “it’s not that but a training course”. Exactly. And in school, even with training courses, were you allowed to pass with poor results? Were you always afforded a second chance?
@leahschaffer7646
@leahschaffer7646 4 ай бұрын
Grusha lives on Mountain which he could be still watching Liko from a distance during the battle against Amethio or during the battle against Spinel!
@N.EO-Quartz
@N.EO-Quartz 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps the constant test failures is a way to show that the Pokemon League of Paldea is somewhat corrupt…and corruption can easily be exploited.
@N.EO-Quartz
@N.EO-Quartz 4 ай бұрын
The League is shown to be very stubborn (except for Larry, who doesn’t really care all that much and actually despises his boss) What if certain antagonistic characters found a way to exploit that weakness of stubbornness? The Pokemon League of Paldea is basically the government of the region, after all…
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
Liko was the only one who failed and no rematch. Roy had one fail but a second chance. The rest of the time, even if they lost, they still passed.
@N.EO-Quartz
@N.EO-Quartz 3 ай бұрын
That’s so unfair.
@Niko_latte_moon_milli_hoshi
@Niko_latte_moon_milli_hoshi 4 ай бұрын
As cold and rude as grusha seem's I gotta feeling he's super sweet and kind unearth the cold(excuse the pun) exterior
@kevinzhang9591
@kevinzhang9591 3 ай бұрын
well if we recall Pryce, up until Ash stumbled upon Pryce's Piloswine and help it; was he given an actual battle with respect. Then when Ash couldn't defeat Piloswine, Pryce threw in the white flag as he determined Ash had done enough to earn the badge. Had Ash properly trained his team, should have had a Typhlosion, Meganium, Feraligatr. Typhlosion and Pikachu should have swept Pryce no problem
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
He is. For as cold as his exterior is, he always hides his concerns and cautions in harsh words. His game dialogue is both banter and his concern for people’s safety in the mountains, always hiding warnings in tough talk. And he not only forgave the Cetoddle that was involved in his accident, he made it one of his partners. Would someone with zero heart capable of care have done something like that? Grusha is harsh to Liko. But he is also worried for her, because he can see she has potential but if she were to be coddled, she can’t reach it. It’s why he refuses to pass her just because she did her best. He saw her against Rika and how it took a while in the battle for her to truly push herself and feel the drive of battle.
@wilsonbelle6600
@wilsonbelle6600 4 ай бұрын
Poor Hattrem got clobbered. I love the little smol-hat, but I just couldn't take her to that gym (though she was fully-evolved) when I played Scarlet. I knew she would struggle below level-65-ish, so I kept Gardevoir on my crew pretty much the second half of the game as my psychic.
@thatoneaxolotlguy9969
@thatoneaxolotlguy9969 4 ай бұрын
Btw is it just me or Liko, Roy and Dot fit the representations of the lake trio
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@thatoneaxolotlguy9969 how?
@cyndaquil1433
@cyndaquil1433 3 ай бұрын
Oh I see: Roy fits in Azelf with his Willpower, Dot fits in Uxie with her knowledge, and Liko fits in Mesprit with her emotional ability
@lorenbrown7100
@lorenbrown7100 3 ай бұрын
Shh your spoiling us ima potential episode
@Lonewulf321
@Lonewulf321 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, you’re kind of right
@FanofZ
@FanofZ 4 ай бұрын
I dont understand why people are so upset that something that is exclusive to this anime season is being turned on its head, all of Ash Ketchum era of the anime has been like win or nothing But imo things like this are a great thing for fleshed out storytelling
@shadowwizard2383
@shadowwizard2383 3 ай бұрын
No it hasn’t ash lost to plenty of gym leaders and always did a rematch the only time it was you lost its over is the tournament at the end of each series. The games are the same you can rematch the gym leaders till you win. Also we are no where near close to the end of HZ and liko has to have the Tera orb for terapagos so she will be getting a rematch because grusha changed his mind or a extra credit test from tulip or kofu.
@FanofZ
@FanofZ 3 ай бұрын
@@shadowwizard2383 I'm talking about losing and in that *very same match* the loss is still counted as a badge gain if you do well enough
@shadowwizard2383
@shadowwizard2383 3 ай бұрын
@@FanofZ Liko and the others are not going for badges this is a school test as long as you have a passing grade you get the sticker like a regular test a D is still passing and winning the battle isn’t the point of the test it’s how you handle a Tera orb but I’m not worried liko will get a rematch from grusha because he saw her battle with the explorers or she gets a extra credit test battling tulip or kofu. I do hope grusha gets his passion for snowboarding back like in the games and he is less cold to people.
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
@@shadowwizard2383In Kanto, we only saw Ash do rematches to try to earn his badges a few times. Against Brock, which he then forfeited and still got the badge. Against Surge, which he actually won. Against Sabrina, which got him a technicality win due to Kadabra being unable to battle since it was laughing too hard to fight, but not exactly a proper victory in a battle. Against Blaine, and that was a case of Charizard wanting to prove itself against Magmar after they had worked together to stop the volcano from erupting. No rematch against Misty, but was given the badge anyway for saving the Gym. No rematch against Erika, even on a makeshift battlefield, and just given the badge for saving Gloom from the fire.
@TankWilliams-r8b
@TankWilliams-r8b 4 ай бұрын
Glad everything is going good with your youtube channel
@glitchy_weasel
@glitchy_weasel 4 ай бұрын
Okay, dude. This episode was really something else. This is the first trainer battle in Horizons that put me on the edge of my seat. I really wanted Terastal Floragato to give it her all and win, you know? I mean, it's kind of lame that our protagonist has lost three major battles in row. I get growing stronger and learning from failures, but Liko really has to get her act together and bring home a win for her and Floragato's sake, yeah.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@glitchy_weasel clearly she hasn't learned from failures if this her third consecutive L I'm beyond disgusted with Liko at this point
@glitchy_weasel
@glitchy_weasel 3 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 Yeah, it's getting kind of old to the point I'm not so thrilled about the anime anymore... like, girl, might as well trade Floragato with Roy and get the hell out of the cast if you can't bring home a win in almost 20 episodes now. 😭
@Draguire-yt6et
@Draguire-yt6et 3 ай бұрын
@@glitchy_weasel she should have beaten the insect champion it's the easiest
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@glitchy_weasel someone gets it
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@Draguire-yt6et so why didn't she
@0axis771
@0axis771 4 ай бұрын
Yup, that is how life is. Some teachers have quirks and flaws, and if you fail to meet them, they will give you a lower grade than other teachers would. Not all teachers are the same, and this episode proves it. Also, it is important for Liko to also care about the result a little bit more. Sure, doing your best does matter and you should be proud of that, but if you don't care that much for the result, you might hit a stagnant state and end up not really pushing past your limits. In a competitive world, you can't settle for just doing your best. You have to want to reach the goal with all your might and then some. Ash might accept failures and losses, but he also wants to be the very best like no one ever was and he would keep trying to surpass his limits.
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Because in next episode liko will had to comfort amethio to become anti hero
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 4 ай бұрын
Yeah no, there is no way you ever will win every battle ever and there will be serious defeats. The key is getting up and growing, not destroying others like Grusha does. He doesn't sound like a harsh trainer, but a bully with his talk of despair and ruin. Liko failed none of her battles, she proved in all of them her worth except with Grusha, who is projecting hard here and doesn't even tell her what to do better. Wanting to win is one thing, but focusing only on results is bad, it leads to characters like Paul and Shamus to come and ruin Pokemon.
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 4 ай бұрын
​@@basilofgoodwishes4138 Who is Shamus?
@kevinzhang9591
@kevinzhang9591 3 ай бұрын
@@miikaroos3809 Shamus (Japanese: スワマ Suwama) is the former Trainer of Ash's Tepig. a person of similar reputation to Damian. One could argue Paul was far worse for giving Chimchar a beat down before ditching it. nearly everyone got satisfactions when Cynthia wiped the floor with Paul, that was his stupid arrogance in challenging a champion to a full 6v6 and no holding back. This did seem like Paul returned to try again with the league.
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
@@basilofgoodwishes4138It took her until halfway through her battle against Rika to truly feel the passion and drive one needs to try to win. Grusha saw that with his own eyes. He saw she wasn’t willing to push herself until she could finally understand that drive that characters like Roy and Nemona and even Dot had. She often held back out of kindness or uncertainty. She wasn’t going to grow at that rate. And coddling her would allow that to continue to last. Grusha was not being a bully. And while there could have been projection, he’s not wrong. You can’t always pass a test just because you did your best. Life doesn’t always give you second chances. And if Liko is still not strong enough to win against him, how is she supposed to fare against a Rayquaza without holding Roy and Dot back? How is she supposed to keep protecting Terapagos?
@nickioleary8577
@nickioleary8577 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know if this is going to happen, in fact it wouldn’t surprise me if it didn’t, but I had an idea of what would be cool to see in the next two episodes. We know Amethio is going to appear in both of the next episodes, given next week’s preview and the title of the following episode, so I’d like it if he heard about what happened at the assessment. After both episodes potentially bonding with Liko and seeing how much she’s grown since they last battled, he meets Grusha and confronts him about his behavior with Liko’s match. Especially since he’s suffered humiliating defeats and failures against the Rising Voltacklers (especially Friede) but rather than give up, mope, and push his feelings/insecurities onto others (mainly just his Pokemon, Zirc, and Conia) he looked for ways to improve and get better by training with Hamber. He then tells Grusha how shameful and pitiful it is that he, as a gym leader, would refuse to acknowledge Liko after how much she’s grown. This would cause Grusha to consider his conduct, and offer Liko a chance at a rematch. I’m not sure how in character it would be for Amethio to essentially defend Liko’s honor, hence why I’m not sure this would really happen, but it’d be cool to see. And hey, if they do the next two episodes well enough and show Liko and Amethio genuinely connect or at least form some respect on Amethio’s end, maybe something like this could believably work
@RhysHill-ur8lq
@RhysHill-ur8lq 4 ай бұрын
Larry has a sniper trained on him. Ryme is a tough love granny. Grusha is just salty and has a heart truly made of ice!
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Unlike Larry and ryme Grusha the upper hand is going to win
@RaptorofRex07
@RaptorofRex07 3 ай бұрын
And That’s why Larry and Ryne are infinitely more popular then Grusha
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
Grusha has a heart, even if it’s frozen over. As harsh as he is, he does care. He wants Liko to do better. How will she do better if she just gets awarded passes and second chances when reality isn’t likely to give her those?
@ChrisPTY507
@ChrisPTY507 4 ай бұрын
I don't think this will end with Liko failing the test and that's it. I'm pretty sure the plot will progress in such a way that Grusha might experience character development and have a change of heart. Considering only the results and omitting the background or even the entire process behind the result is an inherently flawed and short-sighted way of operating. It can work in some situations, but not always. Needless to say, something will happen later on that will make Grusha change his reasoning.
@ShiningStar5022
@ShiningStar5022 4 ай бұрын
@@ChrisPTY507 like the upcoming 2 parter
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@ChrisPTY507 likely so, but failing would at least get through to Liko that losing isn't acceptable
@ChrisPTY507
@ChrisPTY507 3 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 Which is not a valid teaching because in life, you win or lose, and losing isn’t the end of the world or your dreams. You lose, learn from it, and keep growing-something Grusha didn’t do after his snowboarding injury in the anime. It’s a flawed way of thinking.
@lorenbrown7100
@lorenbrown7100 3 ай бұрын
With Pokémon expect it to happen
@Lonewulf321
@Lonewulf321 3 ай бұрын
I mean obviously haha
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25 4 ай бұрын
The anime truly brings the characters from the mainline games to life. Which is a shame that not all the gym leaders in the Galar Region have appeared in Journeys.
@josephlouisbondoc7918
@josephlouisbondoc7918 3 ай бұрын
it sucks we dont have many gigantamax battles which is the flaw of the journey if horizon has that i mean brooo liko has haterrem and if she evolve into brimuon come on she can gigantamax like we still dont have legend arceus on the anime f the specials it doesnt comprise the hisui thingy since hisui is the old sinnoh and ofc we need more hisuian forms that will appear in the anime and i hope the horizon will do that bcoz man ohh man lucius has kleavor aka the onyl hisui pokemon that was owned
@supermariogamer1757
@supermariogamer1757 4 ай бұрын
Im tired of people getting mad about liko losing. Didn't you listen,the whole point of these test is to bond with your pokemon not necessarily win the battle. Im also tired of people of saying liko is weak SHE ISN'T WEAK!!!!! TO anyone in the replies keep saying she's weak,you have zero brain cells like ash.
@Roseberry606
@Roseberry606 4 ай бұрын
Fr tho, people forget liko isnt some experienced trainer who's been battling for years The start of the show is literally when she gets her first pokemon, and she has improved a lot since then With how fast she improves there's no doubt she'll become an elite 4 level trainer in a few years or less I say having the willpower to continue despite your losses is one of the biggest signs of strenght there is
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@Roseberry606 now she's only regressing. At least before the arc she did actually get a few wins unlike her teammates
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@supermariogamer1757 she lost to someone of gym leader strength and above three times in a row despite putting in effort. What's that tell you? Oh yeah SHE'S A WEAKLING AND DISGRACE 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Saying someone has no brain cells just for pointing out the obvious means you have less brain cells than me or anyone else who sees Liko's signs of weakness for what they are
@supermariogamer1757
@supermariogamer1757 4 ай бұрын
​@@eljordinio7647 Again,it doesn't matter if she loses, didn't you listen. The whole point of them is to grow with your pokemon, which liko has been doing since the start. You don't have to win the battle you just have to prove that you can battle well, which liko has been doing since the very beginning. Are you seriously expecting her to be a champion? She stated pretty early on that she doesn't want to.
@gamerhero9559
@gamerhero9559 4 ай бұрын
She is weaker than Ash so it is frustrating that she loses in the worst ways in the show. She needs to get her act together.
@Hai-ou8dd
@Hai-ou8dd 3 ай бұрын
Liko basically breaking the 4th wall again, after she realising that she's the MC at early episode of the series. She said "i have a bad feeling, stuff like this always leads some big event" in episode 64 preview, she has a devine conciousness isnt she? 😂. if there's a moment where she face the camera and directly talk to us, that'll be funny and cool yk.
@brookmiron6653
@brookmiron6653 3 ай бұрын
Whoever is charge of making episode, it’s unfair for liko and he grusha didn’t bother give her another chance
@nebbynetwork2089
@nebbynetwork2089 4 ай бұрын
This hurts a lot poor liko least they could have done is make her second gym leader the water one insted of 2 gym leaders who liko has a disadvantage against UGH this is so dumb does she at least get a rematch against grusha like roy did?
@MasterofChaldea015
@MasterofChaldea015 4 ай бұрын
Writers clearly hate her
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@nebbynetwork2089 Grusha said he wouldn't let her get a rematch, but knowing the anime, that could quickly change Otherwise, she'll just have to beat someone else to make up for grusha's justified refusal
@Sirceyy
@Sirceyy 3 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen this episode because I live somewhere else so my country is only at episode 29:( but thanks to YOURE AWESOME REVIEWS I can always get a glimpse from the upcoming episodes!! Thx so much!❤❤❤
@ionizedactor3994
@ionizedactor3994 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the doubt sown into Liko with regards to her strength is the mcguffin of the next episode. Her loss gives her the motivation to improve herself which may lead to an "Ash soul search in a snowy forest" episode, except instead of Serena finding her its Amethio
@dragonsvideos6737
@dragonsvideos6737 3 ай бұрын
“If only I was stronger” “you don’t have a clue how I feel” - ash from the two episodes
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@ionizedactor3994 it better give her that extra motivation. She's been disgraceful enough and needs to redeem herself fast
@faiqahmed5699
@faiqahmed5699 3 ай бұрын
I think what liko went through in this episode is great for character development. The reason I believe this, is because liko has only lost battles against her cremates. And each time they encourage her, they never really tell her what she needs to do in order improve herself, like how she was told in this episode
@UltraAfroman
@UltraAfroman 4 ай бұрын
Liko and Floragato were incredible, though.
@Pokeferlax
@Pokeferlax 4 ай бұрын
They seriously were! Their strategies, the way they were so in sync with each other... you can genuinely see how far they've come! Such fantastic battlers!
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@Pokeferlax so how can they not get a darn win this arc? Even if it was only against Grusha it would have been some success to their name
@Hai-ou8dd
@Hai-ou8dd 4 ай бұрын
​@@eljordinio7647 dude calm down, don't asked him, asked the writer, it's just a kid's show you know 😂
@liamtherobot9656
@liamtherobot9656 4 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 honestly floragato was such a downgrade
@Lonewulf321
@Lonewulf321 3 ай бұрын
@@Hai-ou8ddthis guy doesn’t know how to calm down. He’s always like this
@ThePokemonPrinceYT
@ThePokemonPrinceYT 4 ай бұрын
I love Horizons so much honestly, it's really realistic abd doesn't have plot armor bullcrap or anything like that
@KYWANWEBSTER
@KYWANWEBSTER 4 ай бұрын
They still need to level 🎚️ up some more before they can have plot armor especially against super strong Trainor's like they're facing
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. No plot armor means that every victory is truly earned.
@lorenbrown7100
@lorenbrown7100 3 ай бұрын
@@miikaroos3809sounds like your saying ash was basically cheating to win if he wasn’t dying to every legendary
@TristanBonsi
@TristanBonsi 4 ай бұрын
Floragato: how the heck did Dot and Roy pass but our Liko didn’t😠😕 Hattrem: This Grusha is such an a**hole For making our master feel sorrow😡 Fuecoco: the most important thing is we should be talking about here is how the hell am I still a baby?!?! Hattrem: OK good you won your battle without evolving while Floragato and Quaxwell fainted that’s probably because you’re more stronger as a Fuecoco🙄 Kilowattrel: first of all of Fuecoco I was done dirty the most then all of y’all (Tinkatink in the corner): hello, am I a joke? Terapagos: YAY😆 Floragato: Holy s*** someone get terapagos away from that sleeping beartic before were all f***ed
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@TristanBonsi if they want to place blame, they should blame Liko's weakness
@TristanBonsi
@TristanBonsi 3 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 Liko actually gave it her all what are you talking about?!
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@TristanBonsi I don't care!! I care about results at this point in time and Liko failed!! I don't acknowledge failure or effort when results aren't gained
@TristanBonsi
@TristanBonsi 3 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 well, I mean, she was at a disadvantage, but Floragato keep up the magical leaf against ice beam really will out there to be honest, at least give them some credit on that
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@TristanBonsi she might have an actual IQ when it comes to battling but what good is that if she doesn't produce results?! If you're not successful, you're nothing
@naturalharmoniagropius4486
@naturalharmoniagropius4486 4 ай бұрын
1:45 in PoMa EX, this Grusha's Backstory was brought up in one of its recent events.
@StarWarriorRobby
@StarWarriorRobby 4 ай бұрын
'Using a grass-type in an ice-type gym? I guess you chopped that up to blind faith.' - Paul
@lorenbrown7100
@lorenbrown7100 3 ай бұрын
If Paul saw liko god help her he is going to crush her never mind if guzma before he got beat by ash battle her rip that’s a death match
@maestro9765
@maestro9765 3 ай бұрын
Paul after using elekid and chimchar in a rock gym
@maestro9765
@maestro9765 3 ай бұрын
Also Paul after using thunder on his electivire instead of thunderbolt (70% accuracy)
@StarWarriorRobby
@StarWarriorRobby 3 ай бұрын
@@maestro9765 They got coverage moves against rock-types. So it's fine.
@maestro9765
@maestro9765 3 ай бұрын
@@StarWarriorRobby Chimchar didn't have any, expect for dig. And he straight up had chimchar use flame wheel on cranidos. Even with blaze, I don't see how not using dig would've been better.
@crownalgodoo8095
@crownalgodoo8095 3 ай бұрын
This didnt make me mad, this just makes liko realize that she doesnt have main character plot armor…
@Keckleon
@Keckleon 4 ай бұрын
Well this is what happens without plot armor lol
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25
@UnwantedGhost1-anz25 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember Tyson, that one trainer with a Meowth wearing Puss n Boots attire, who defeated Ash in the Hoenn League?
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 3 ай бұрын
I do. What about him?
@dragonsvideos6737
@dragonsvideos6737 3 ай бұрын
Meowth in boots
@Aquageo555
@Aquageo555 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I like this idea, it feels more realistic and shows liko has more growing to do.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@Aquageo555 and she hasn't grown whatsoever during this course. Sure she has some insane strategies but they've never given her a win. For someone with brains her battling prowess is proving to be pathetic
@logananimationstudios8560
@logananimationstudios8560 4 ай бұрын
I just can't wait for next episode we're definitely going to see Amethio and Liko battle again!!!!!!!!
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@logananimationstudios8560 with Liko unfortunately racking up another failure to her name
@MasterofChaldea015
@MasterofChaldea015 4 ай бұрын
​@@eljordinio7647From the preview however it seems that Spinel interrupts the battle
@leahschaffer7646
@leahschaffer7646 4 ай бұрын
@@MasterofChaldea015Oh I knew that as well!
@chadwickmale2998
@chadwickmale2998 4 ай бұрын
That pissed me off, a gym leader can’t deny a trainer a rematch. I know he’s cold from the scarlet and violet games but DAMN! Not surprised Liko lost, but we need them to catch some new Pokemon for their teams, and stop having the second Pokemon on the teams lose. Justice for Kilowattrel, Tinkatink and Now Hatrrem
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Liko is so weak compared to serena
@Saint_kin
@Saint_kin 4 ай бұрын
Ngl, it would prolly end the same way if she got a rematch. She has a complete type disadvantage against BOTH Grusha's Pokemon. It's like.... Putting your hand in lava and expecting it NOT to burn. Honestly he's saving her a lot of time denying it.
@numberhunter62
@numberhunter62 4 ай бұрын
This isn't a gym challenge so he isn't actually obligated to accept that request. This is a Terrastal course remember.
@Thisiswild1
@Thisiswild1 4 ай бұрын
He could be testing her
@chadwickmale2998
@chadwickmale2998 4 ай бұрын
@@Thisiswild1 maybe
@help_what_is_going_on
@help_what_is_going_on 4 ай бұрын
i was waching on a site that had lots of adds and the episode didn't stop during the adds so i missed the hattrem fight and i forgot to rewind and i was so confused when she lost "using only one pokemon"
@help_what_is_going_on
@help_what_is_going_on 4 ай бұрын
dont treat it like a gym battle treat it as a test to see her potential
@mrcwillis6970
@mrcwillis6970 4 ай бұрын
Something I’ll also say. People saying she deserves to fail or is weak is just unnecessary. If people don’t like how Roy and Dots battles were done compared to Liko fair enough but still there’s no need to be getting so mad. Don’t matter how many times you fail, as long as you get back up, might take a while and you might need support but nevertheless all you can do in life is try. If your not gonna go all out and give it everything you can, what’s the point. Plus failure is the big key to learn from the mistakes and reflect.
@HeyItsIvo
@HeyItsIvo 3 ай бұрын
this episode was wild and it really shows gruisha's cold personality
@Vantoxify
@Vantoxify 4 ай бұрын
are people seriously mad that Liko didn't pass? Ash got most of his gym badges fair and square with a few exceptions back in Kanto and that one Hoenn Gym Battle with Wattson
@shadowwizard2383
@shadowwizard2383 3 ай бұрын
Its the no rematch that people are mad at which has never happened in the games or anime. Even if ash failed to defeat a gym leader he can come back and win later the only time we had a loss is permanent and its over is at the end of the series with the battle league or grand festival but again they continue with there goals with another league or contest. I’m not worried because ether grusha is going to change his mind after seeing liko battle the explorers or there is going to be a extra credit battle against tulip or kofu. No way liko doesn’t get the Tera orb she is the only 1 that needs it because of terapagos.
@airam1721
@airam1721 3 ай бұрын
That magic leaf attack against cetitan was more brutal than expected, like what the hell??
@tct4593
@tct4593 4 ай бұрын
While I gave Roy kudos for the last episode, admittedly Liko performed really well here. Even a bit better than Roy and Dot. Grusha is just Ice cold, Liko did just about everything right but Grusha was like "Nope sorry you lose you fail. Sorry kid"
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
Because liko is compared to serena
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
@@tct4593 well Grusha did have a point. Doing your best is not always enough. If you don't even try to win, you don't achieve anything
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 4 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 She did try to win, she has tried that ever since her battle against Rika. You are wrong and your explaination is a very bad lesson. You cannot win every battle, it is never possible. Getting up and going through a journey is what matters most, the end goal, not so much.
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 4 ай бұрын
​@@basilofgoodwishes4138 The end goal does matter too. In this case, Liko needs to pass the test in order to get to keep her Tera Orb. She needs it to continue growing stronger on her journey. Of course, like you said, it's impossible to win all the time, but first she should be allowed to have a rematch.
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 she has not won even ONE battle since this arc began so don't try and defend her weakness. That's also a sign of weakness Her efforts have been inadequate and if she keeps this up, she's not going to succeed in anything she tried to do
@dragonsvideos6737
@dragonsvideos6737 3 ай бұрын
This has a sort of feel to journeys when Goh messed up the articuno raid battle and they failed and Gary got real with him about how kindness holds someone back. This episode Grusha was realistic about how she failed and it wasn’t enough.
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 3 ай бұрын
Gohan from pokemon xy journey and goh from pokemon journeys are not the same character but mostly no
@dragonsvideos6737
@dragonsvideos6737 3 ай бұрын
@@leviristich5211 gohan?
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 4 ай бұрын
I believe Liko will have to learn that the true power of a Pokemon doesn't come from typing or attacks, but the heart of the Pokemkn she has to sync with and gain the strenght to defeat Grusha, who is just cold-hearted and doesn't accept defeat. Amethio will probably make her realize that ultimate true strenght is climbing up the ladder instead of giving up because of the fall, as he never gives up. And also make her realize that she doesn't need big attacks to defeat Grusha or the Explorers, but the spirit of a trainer, the very best she can be.
@isaaclee8671
@isaaclee8671 4 ай бұрын
The things that decides a Pokemon Battle in the end is the Pokemon Spirit.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 4 ай бұрын
@@isaaclee8671 You are clever for figuring that out. I give you a cookie! FR, Smart reply!
@isaaclee8671
@isaaclee8671 4 ай бұрын
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 No matter what happend to Liko, even she's fails and lost the battle and feel down, she'll pick herself back up and keep moving foward and learned from her mistake. It because... I BELIEVED HER!!!
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@basilofgoodwishes4138 if Amethio can't get through to her, she's a hopeless case
@isaaclee8671
@isaaclee8671 3 ай бұрын
@@eljordinio7647 Don't worry, she'll understand more and realized.
@xcmet
@xcmet 4 ай бұрын
8:20 i dont think Liko rematching Grusha just to defeat him will add any resolve to changing Grusha's viewpoint since Liko obtaining a victory would only prove Grusha's point of why results only matter in pokemon battles. Grusha only commented that Liko wasn't strong enough to defeat him. Grusha never criticized how Liko performed or her relationship with her pokemon, which was done previously during Roy's assessment training with Rhyme. With that said, I think a rematch would be pointless. I hoping Liko 's resolve to passing her terestalized test is by changing Grusha's perception via show of good deed or heroism when facing the explorers.
@Hai-ou8dd
@Hai-ou8dd 4 ай бұрын
I get it now, grusha is too competitive, that's why he's so harsh and cold, but he's right you know, in a real battle the result is what matter the most, just imagine if liko lose to explolers and asked them to let her win or asked a rematch, it's just silly as it looks. But what is wrong here, from what grusha said, grusha took this test too seriously to the point he forget that this is just a test for qualification to get the tera orb, they just need to proof that they're capable and understand on how and when they used teraorb, it's not a real battle that loosing will give you a big concequences on your career like a regular competition he used to. For liko though, i've no critism on her, she did a really good job especially she's on disadvantage on type, she rely on her unique stategy and a great timing until she almost win, she was lost because of too high power level, it's a proof that she's grown to be a really smart and a tough battler, she just need more practice when she comes to fight.
@darthvigilante
@darthvigilante 4 ай бұрын
Well, this episode proved that Grusha earned his title as The Sub-zero Shredder.
@casellpeterson7424
@casellpeterson7424 4 ай бұрын
But that's not fair a gym leader can't denied a trainer of rematch a gym leader unless they did something very offensive to the gym leader. gym leader is a supposed to accept all challenges the only gym leaders that I know that refuses a rematch is a frontier brains until they get stronger then they can reconsider the rematch?
@atlus6772
@atlus6772 4 ай бұрын
El Jordinio, this is for you :)
@EssexAggiegrad2011
@EssexAggiegrad2011 4 ай бұрын
This is not a gym battle
@rainbowpegacornstudios
@rainbowpegacornstudios 3 ай бұрын
I don't get the hate Horizons gets. Just because Ash isn't the main protagonist anymore, does it mean the series shouldn't be giving it a fair chance
@Wan2ML_DragonMasterSCE
@Wan2ML_DragonMasterSCE 4 ай бұрын
Damn, I haven't watched Pokemon Horizons again since like somewhere in EP 38-40 ☠️ Been a while in your channel also ❤
@ahtalmachanation3831
@ahtalmachanation3831 3 ай бұрын
It makes sense for Grusha to be tough, he is the last gym before the elite four for most, he is a check, to see if you can actually win or if you have just been skating by
@thatoneaxolotlguy9969
@thatoneaxolotlguy9969 4 ай бұрын
Man I wish the kanto gym leaders that are not named Koga, Giovanni, Blaine and Surge would learn from Grusha
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
Giovanni never battled Ash, Team Rocket trio did. And they tried to cheat him out of not being able to get the badge. If it had been up to Misty, he would not have gotten his second badge without a proper rematch, but Daisy was the one to give it to Ash. Just as she was about to without there being a battle at all. “Take it, a badge is a badge.” And that would have been without any results or trying on Ash’s part. To his credit, he was reluctant about getting his badge handed to him.
@thatoneaxolotlguy9969
@thatoneaxolotlguy9969 3 ай бұрын
@@tranatkikomi6873 i said it because they are the only leaders who didn't give out a pitty badge, and also misty's sisters are the gym leaders kind of not misty herself
@tranatkikomi6873
@tranatkikomi6873 3 ай бұрын
@@thatoneaxolotlguy9969 I figured that, that’s why I said that in Ash’s case, Giovanni couldn’t give him a badge because TRio were assigned the Gym Leaders while he went after Mewtwo. Thankfully, Misty took over as the official Gym Leader after they had left her to run it while they went on some cruise because of how she never let trainers have shortcuts like “you saved the Gym, here!” or “thanks for cleaning the Gym for me even though that’s one of my actual duties, have a badge!” like Daisy did.
@thesteelcollecter
@thesteelcollecter 4 ай бұрын
Man, I can't believe that this new Pokemon Anime is so brutally....
@iamjayrts25
@iamjayrts25 4 ай бұрын
As part of everyone I am enraged
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 4 ай бұрын
Same 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Pokeferlax
@Pokeferlax 4 ай бұрын
Hi everyone, I'm dad 👨🏻
@RiriSeven5625
@RiriSeven5625 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if Liko could've done more. she pretty much did what she could've done for both Hattrem and Floragato. there's just this one scene when she teratalizes Floragato. she did that after successfully landing a direct attack to Altaria after Floragato caught Altaria with it's bud. and Grusha had this shocked expression turned into like an unimpressed face like he did in the games. and then what he said after sounds like he's questioning the timing of Liko's terastalization. it's almost as if he's saying "why would you terastalize right now after pulling off such a clever move". like maybe she could've done more before terastalizing or maybe she could've force Grusha to terastalize first before her. maybe she could've won all the way. it's not hard to notice that now unless I'm overthinking it. if true then Grusha's harshness is not just the reason why LIko didn't pass. the thing is every gym leader has the freedom to set a criteria to pass the test. Larry's criteria was just right, Rhyme was supposed to fail Roy but decides to allow a rematch and Grusha's are strict and calls for perfection. and the test is about terastalization more than anything. Dot lost but she terastalized in the perfect time after the evolution as Larry stated. Roy lost because he terastalizes out of desperation as Rhyme said and he changed that in their rematch. that's why I think, there is something to that scene when Grusha reacted to Floragato's terastalization.
@linedoltrainerchannelgammi2247
@linedoltrainerchannelgammi2247 4 ай бұрын
character flaws have been so controversal in Pokemon horizons a lot, isn't it? even though it is part of the story
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@linedoltrainerchannelgammi2247 being part of the story doesn't mean they are exempt from criticism
@giancarloabiera
@giancarloabiera 3 ай бұрын
I think Grusha's statement that simply trying isn't enough is something which I agree to here. Just because you impressed with your performance but still ended up in defeat is something which is not worthy of passing. In real life sports, simply putting up an impression on the crowd wouldn't be enough to grant you the victory; you need to work for it. Although I haven't seen the episode, I think Liko needs to train more and take battling even more seriously if ever a chance for a rematch against Grusha comes. Wins do not come easily; they come as a result of hard work and dedication, and if only Liko just showed a bit more dedication in her training with Floragato, she could have passed Grusha's test. Sure, people may hate on Grusha for being rough on such a sensitive and gentle character, but that's the harsh reality of battling; you have only two outcomes: victory or defeat.
@gioanysgonzalez3396
@gioanysgonzalez3396 4 ай бұрын
In a way, I really appreciate the fact that they are showing how much of a different level the characters are to the gym leaders. Unlike with Ash, he most of the time defeats them on his first try and kind of doesn’t feel like he learn from that particular fight unlike with the horizon cast who actually feel like they’re learning something with these battles. Like with Roy and Rhyme, he actually learned from his experience from her previous fight to not be so cocky and over confident and actually improved has a trainer.
@Yuutus1
@Yuutus1 3 ай бұрын
I feel like this makes this things more real and is prolly gonna lead to some bonding experience between the 2 characters where grusha gives the badge after seeing mc’s determination during some intense situation or after that they battle and she wins somehow. Regardless funny episode twist
@plushmakerfan8444
@plushmakerfan8444 4 ай бұрын
The ending trolled me 😂
@just_exo02
@just_exo02 3 ай бұрын
The coldest moment, like laterally
@MarcusMapua
@MarcusMapua 4 ай бұрын
When it comes to the HZ trio's 1st Caught Pokemon's 1st Official Battles, I'd probably say Hattrem did the best out of Kilowattrel & Tinkatink. Her Confusion-controlled Icicle Spear Sendback & Spinning Collision between Ice Spinner & Brutal Swing were pretty good! And I definitely do hope that the opportunity arises for Another Liko vs Grusha to happen again given the next lineup of eps, so I'm on the edge of my seat in hopes that a silver lining of a comeback arises (I'd love it if it turns out that Geeta magically shows up & turns Grusha into an anxious worrywart when he's around her and makes him reconsider what he's done given he's so scared of La Primera) - And all I can say in the end after this episode is that Grusha might have just added another new reason as to why he is one of my least favorite of Paldea Gym Leaders!!
@christianszeman1446
@christianszeman1446 4 ай бұрын
Poor Liko 😥😭 so heart breaking how dare Grusha did this to her! I also really want to give her a hug to comfort her 🫂
@leviristich5211
@leviristich5211 4 ай бұрын
She always cry and tomorrow amethio is next comfort
@eljordinio7647
@eljordinio7647 3 ай бұрын
@@christianszeman1446 she needs to toughen up, especially emotionally
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 4 ай бұрын
Okay, first of all, it's FlorAgato, not FlorIgato. That typo was driving me nuts during the whole video. Secondly, I am not exactly enraged, or even surprised. I always knew that Liko's chances of beating Grusha at this point were slim at best. However, I had no idea that Grusha would deny her a chance for a rematch. So what happens next? Obviously, the next two episodes will be about the Explorers for a change, but what about Liko's Terastal course? She failed, so will she have to give her Tera Orb back to the Academy? I can't see that happening, but I also can't think of a good reason for her to be allowed to keep it. This is all very interesting. I hope the writers will manage to surprise me next time.
@miikaroos3809
@miikaroos3809 4 ай бұрын
​@@leviristich5211 Don't reply to my comments. You always speak nothing but nonsense.
@GoldLight73
@GoldLight73 3 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe with this episode is that it highlights how seemingly arbitrary the rules for passing Terrastal Course really are. Each gym leader has their own standards for judging who's allowed to pass or even whether or not someone is allowed to retry. Beyond that, the battle itself was genuinely pretty great.
@TheRegibump
@TheRegibump 4 ай бұрын
I’m glad people are feeling enraged at Grusha's choice, because that’s what the episode wants you conclude from this. His character was clearly written to need to lighten up in battles and not just focus on the results (similar to Paul), but even if it wasn’t it’s clear we’re meant to sympathise with Liko on this one.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 3 ай бұрын
He makes for an excellent foil as someone who failed to live his dream live, but I wonder how Liko can respond to this? I think the Explorers will help her realize that ultimately winning and losing is something that matters not that much, cuz you will always get one and the other. Only persistance matters and getting up, standing tall against the giants of life. That is the way to go. And in the end, if they go this route, it would prove Grusha wrong, because in the end, we can only try, and how we go on our challenges matters more often than winning or losing.
@leahschaffer7646
@leahschaffer7646 4 ай бұрын
I knew that Liko would lose because Liko is no way closer to Grusha Level which I could see that in the preview!
@UltraAfroman
@UltraAfroman 4 ай бұрын
I love Cetoddle. They are cute.
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