The Pomaks of Thrace (Greece-Turkey-Bulgaria)

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Imagine a people who have lived here for more than 3,000 years. A people whose past all historians would trace with almost scientific certainty. A people wishing to live in peace.
But recent history, religion and politics have decided otherwise. Indeed, for centuries, the north-east of present-day Greece has been the scene of endless conflicts between the capitals of empires eager for expansion and supremacy.
The Pomaks suffer the consequences. Three languages, three religions, three borders: the War of the Three will take place. This film is the view of a Greek woman who discovers a Pomak village whose inhabitants no longer have a choice, they must remain silent and be forgotten...
Director: Despina PANTAZIS

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@kloiko7917
@kloiko7917 Ай бұрын
the footage is from 40 years ago, now the reality there is different , the Pomacs became emigrants in Europe, they now work in Germany, England and France
@danchokonstantinov6735
@danchokonstantinov6735 29 күн бұрын
This is what westerners practise - divide & destroy local cultures and ethnic identities and get the bright, beautiful and brainy to work for them .
@giorgiodifrancesco4590
@giorgiodifrancesco4590 15 күн бұрын
27 years ago.
@pumbalaura
@pumbalaura 15 күн бұрын
Това са чисти българи и гърци, насила потурчени преди 2 века от османската империя. Спрете с френските глупости.
@danchokonstantinov6735
@danchokonstantinov6735 15 күн бұрын
​@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 greeks are habitual Liars .
@petra2135
@petra2135 13 күн бұрын
it's not 40 years ago, but 27!
@JimySlow-wq9bw
@JimySlow-wq9bw Ай бұрын
Amazing documentary video pomak traditional dress look so beautiful respect to pomak muslim community
@yakupkeser248
@yakupkeser248 Ай бұрын
24.3.2024 In Etnos newspaper, Nikos Gianidis says, "Our identity is taken out of the garbage dump of history." In that garbage dump of history, there are also Hittites, etc. There is no one who denies ancient Greece. However, in his book in 1834, Jacob Philipp Fallmerayer also says that these so-called Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greece and are a Slavic state. Dr. Georgios Nakracas also says the same thing. Now Edi Rama and Macedonia are saying it openly... It is not possible to keep Greece alive with the Greeks remaining in history. Bulgarians are the first Turks to become Muslims. Pomaks and Çıtaks were Turks. 500 since There were Avar, Pecheneg, Bulgarian, Cuman-Kipchak and Uz Turks in the Balkans, Central Europe and Anatolia. Since there was no Islam, they became Orthodox.
@georgianakopoulou6339
@georgianakopoulou6339 29 күн бұрын
​@@yakupkeser248Read about Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer's political convictions eg. his fear of Russian expansion,etc. because without reading up the politics of the time you will never know why he wrote the propaganda that he wrote.RememberCapo de Istria's death was no accident,either,as he had great connections with Russia,of course, that's why the Brits still won't open their secret files about who REALLY murdered him! Remember the the various lodges at the time (especially German,French and British) had important conflicting political interests.
@kloiko7917
@kloiko7917 Ай бұрын
The European Union destroyed tobacco production in Bulgaria and now the Pomacs no longer produce tobacco, the Pomacs became emigrants in Europe, they now work in Germany, England and France
@gabrielfox5017
@gabrielfox5017 Ай бұрын
I'm guessing there will be a few very smart kids that absolutely can learn the challenging curriculum. There are a lot of Europeans that can handle three or four languages just fine.
@GaryfaliaLaz
@GaryfaliaLaz Ай бұрын
Greetings to our fellow Greek Pomaks
@jonahartistdavis1858
@jonahartistdavis1858 Ай бұрын
Not Greece, never.
@udififkfkfck
@udififkfkfck Ай бұрын
Not really Greek but Bulgarians. Macedonia & Thracia ones were Bulgarian!
@mariakocini9312
@mariakocini9312 Ай бұрын
ΧΑΝΘΗ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΙΝΙΚΗ. ΟΙ ΠΟΜΑΚΟΙ ΕΊΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΙΝΕΣ ΜΟΥΣΟΥΛΜΆΝΟΙ.
@AresMares_Maria
@AresMares_Maria Ай бұрын
​@@udififkfkfckthese bullshit you are learning in Bulgaria? Macedonia is Greece. And there is not any Greek Muslim. Greeks are not Muslims.
@ayhankaracaoglu6845
@ayhankaracaoglu6845 29 күн бұрын
Greece is a project vassal state whose people formed later on according to Greek Project from Rums of mid and east Türkiye. Natives like Slavs, Macedonians, Vlahs, Arvanites, Albans all are victims of this project. in 1930 no1 was speaking any Rum language. Ask Prince Otto of Bavaria.
@simeonsimeonov5205
@simeonsimeonov5205 27 күн бұрын
Really disgusting politics of all Europe. These people have the traditions, the songs, the language and the history of all Bulgarian people.They speak a beautiful Bulgarian dialect, they sing the same traditional songs of all Bulgarians and traditions and we share the same history except that they are Muslims. Don't invent false history for these people. God sees your doings!
@mickeymouse1697
@mickeymouse1697 Ай бұрын
Greetings to the Pomaks of HELLAS
@jasminehasan890
@jasminehasan890 29 күн бұрын
And to all other Pomaks
@ayhankaracaoglu6845
@ayhankaracaoglu6845 29 күн бұрын
Hell ass. You are not people of Balkans but Kayseri Kappadocia, Trabzon etc.
@southamptonfan3460
@southamptonfan3460 19 күн бұрын
Поздрави брате , баба ми беше изгонена от Южна Тракия, не сме забравили !
@ayhankaracaoglu6845
@ayhankaracaoglu6845 19 күн бұрын
@@southamptonfan3460 unutsan ne yazar unutmasan ne yazar. Alt tarafı Bulgarsın. Etkin yok gücün yok. Rus destegi ile aldıgınız toprakta tutunamazsınız.
@user-rd8fs5yb3q
@user-rd8fs5yb3q 15 күн бұрын
Pomacs live only on the Thrace mountains. If they don't live there they come from there. Thrace is a Greek word for thousands years now, as the name of these mountains, Rodopi.
@rogermangela9405
@rogermangela9405 Ай бұрын
God bless Pomaks🙏
@tracycombs1484
@tracycombs1484 23 күн бұрын
I had never heard of this ethnic group but it's interesting to learn. Fahri is a nice looking man..I hope he finds a teaching job.
@alx_gr1
@alx_gr1 22 күн бұрын
That's very old footage, from 30-40 years ago. Much has changed, most Pomaks emmigrate to Germany to work or study in uni, some in Greece and some in Turkey.
@sotiriatoronidou3001
@sotiriatoronidou3001 26 күн бұрын
Beautiful and clean people
@economidesjeanmichel1783
@economidesjeanmichel1783 Ай бұрын
Excellent reportage. Tristesse ! 😢😢😢🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@salih3716
@salih3716 Ай бұрын
Lol c’est pas des grecs
@elizluv
@elizluv Ай бұрын
@@salih3716 Despina PANTAZIS is the director
@economidesjeanmichel1783
@economidesjeanmichel1783 Ай бұрын
@@salih3716 Non! Ce sont des Pomaks. Un peuple de nationalité grecque, carte d'identité et passeport Grecs. Ils ont tourné le dos à Erdogan en se disant Grecs. 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@kloiko7917
@kloiko7917 Ай бұрын
the footage is from 40 years ago, now the reality there is different. Pomacs became emigrants in Europe, they now work in Germany, England and France
@economidesjeanmichel1783
@economidesjeanmichel1783 Ай бұрын
@@kloiko7917 I know. That's why I Say it is a pity .😢🇬🇷
@sidimuslim9353
@sidimuslim9353 Ай бұрын
Love to my Muslim brothers and sisters in Thrace. Salam from Austria, Europa.
@fernandoscrenci4874
@fernandoscrenci4874 Ай бұрын
A Very Sick Situation !!! A Nomad Status should be given to these people , and let them decided there Language and faith !!!
@IlianNachev
@IlianNachev Ай бұрын
Their native language is Bulgarian.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
They know, which ethnic group they belong to. Their language clearly shows it 😉 Btw, did you know there are pomak people not just in this region....and guess which language they speak although they are hundreds of kilometres away from the Rhodopi mountains and Trace... Greetings from Bulgaria People should educate themselves 😊
@PAN-hi7bn
@PAN-hi7bn 4 күн бұрын
they decided already by staying in Greece. They are Greek citizens having all opportunities that any Greek has.
@fernandoscrenci4874
@fernandoscrenci4874 3 күн бұрын
That's what you decide for us to believe!!! This a very sick situation!!! But keep in mind God is recording all of it around the world for his judgment!!!
@user-yu3er9ve1g
@user-yu3er9ve1g 2 күн бұрын
Turkey and Greece are doing everything possible to assimilate those people- and we all know they are bulgarians. All historical records clearly show they are bulgarians. What Greece and Turkey want to repeat the macedonian experiment.
@ChristopherBowly
@ChristopherBowly Ай бұрын
Fascinating documentary - very interesting & informative. About a lovely people.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
It doesn't reflect the objective truth. Do not be fooled!
@kostastsa
@kostastsa 10 күн бұрын
Στο στρατο ειχα γνωρισει αρκετα παιδια πομακους.. ηταν πολυ καλοι ανθρωποι ευγενικοι και με ελληνικη συνειδηση... θυμαμαι πολυ καλα το 1997 στα συνερα με Σκοπια σε φυλακιο στρατοβτικο ο ενας ζωγραφισε απο μονος του σε βραχο ακριβως στα συνορα εναν τεραστιο ηλιο της βεργινας....
@harunsami2841
@harunsami2841 20 күн бұрын
Wonderful people with rich culture greetings.
@JacquesDestiu
@JacquesDestiu Ай бұрын
De quand date ce reportage ? Presque 30 ans (1997 !) On aimerait savoir comment à évolué leur situation aujourd'hui, en 2024.
@ejcash7234
@ejcash7234 Ай бұрын
Si tu me permets. Je peux te donner un bref résumé des 27 dernières années. Le gouvernement grec avait initié un program clandestin d'assimiler les Pomaks, surtout les jeunes femmes, à la culture grecque pour qu'elle puisse s'éloigner des griffes des Imams et du gouvernement turc (voir le Traité de Lausanne). Donc, le gouvernement grec a subventionné ces jeunes madames pomak en les emmener étudier à Athenes pourqu'elle puisse s'accomoder à la cultures de l'ouest et de s'évader des menottes musulmanes. Je croix que la mission a réussi car j'avais revisité ces régions en 2015 avec ma famille québecoise depuis mon service militaire en 1988 et j'étais étonné comment la culture a changée. Les jeunes femmes ne sont plus voilées (sauf quelques exceptions), les pomaks ont leur propres emissions radiophoniques, il me semble qu'ils sont plus libres sans être acharnés par les leader musulmans d'origine turc. Est-ce qu'il y a encore de l'amélioration à faire, c'est certain; cependant, l'assimiliation dans la culture grecque est prévalante malgré à ce que des réseaux de propagandes provenant d'Istanbul, comme TRT World disent.
@tubajem
@tubajem Ай бұрын
What language do they speak, it did sound as Slavic!? North Macedonia's 30% of population are Pomaks, not assimilated, while genetically they much more! They are the first to accept Islam!
@IlianNachev
@IlianNachev Ай бұрын
Their native language is Bulgarian.
@zeljkomikulicic4378
@zeljkomikulicic4378 Ай бұрын
Bulgarian slavic language. It's balkan. Religion is very connected with nationality. Bulgarian, serbs and greeks are orthodox christians. That's why this people can't be pure bulgarians. But they can't be turks because language. So they stuck somewhere in between. And they are not isolated case in balkan. In Macedonia live people who call them selfs goranci. They speak slavic lenguage but they are muslims like albanians.
@ashlyirvyn2917
@ashlyirvyn2917 29 күн бұрын
They speack Greeks. But some Pomak may speak Slavic. Et least music is more Slavic when they play begpipe or gajde but if they play tamburas struna playing instrument, they are Greeks.
@miralemmehanovic5999
@miralemmehanovic5999 29 күн бұрын
They are the Slavs who like Bosnians accepted islam but there is a twist they used to be Bogomils too!
@myowngenesis
@myowngenesis 26 күн бұрын
​@@zeljkomikulicic4378this is true. We have goranci in Kosovo as well.
@syedadeelhussain2691
@syedadeelhussain2691 26 күн бұрын
Best wishes to Pomaks from Pakistan.
@Barkovsky251
@Barkovsky251 Ай бұрын
Das ist ein gutes Beispiel dass verschieden Kulturen (drei )zusammenleben können Hoffentlich bleibt das noch lange !!
@sebylol5656
@sebylol5656 Ай бұрын
May my pomak/ Muslim Bulgarians of western thrace be reunited with their Bulgarian brothers. Love from Bulgaria
@Awan-ld5zq
@Awan-ld5zq Ай бұрын
How much Muslims in Bulgaria 🇧🇬 ?
@sebylol5656
@sebylol5656 Ай бұрын
@@Awan-ld5zq 15% percent of the population of Bulgaria is Muslim
@udififkfkfck
@udififkfkfck Ай бұрын
​@@Awan-ld5zq500K Gypsies Turks & pomacks (islamized Bulgarians)
@Asdfhjkl998
@Asdfhjkl998 Ай бұрын
@@udififkfkfckhow there you , we don’t worshiping human god Jesus or ikon like pagan ,we are happy Thanks God to be a Muslim ☪️🔯🤲
@mariakocini9312
@mariakocini9312 Ай бұрын
Η ΕΛΛΆΔΑ ΠΡΈΠΕΙ ΝΑ ΒΩΗΘΕΙΣΗ ΤΟΥΣ ΠΟΜΆΚΟΥΣ,
@MyTubeOne
@MyTubeOne Ай бұрын
Great information and great education
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
The ,,film" doesn't reflect the objective truth. Do not get fooled! If you are interested and want to know anything about the pomaks do your own research. There's plenty and all backed up with solid evidences. Greetings from Bulgaria
@wewenang5167
@wewenang5167 26 күн бұрын
Their only right is to remain silence? wtf is this nonsense? I'm pomaks women and cant talk when ever i want where ever i want except while chewing food. This is so funny!
@atanasstoilov421
@atanasstoilov421 Ай бұрын
There are christian and muslim bulgarians in greece. The pomaks are the muslim bulgarians.
@marsmohr1122
@marsmohr1122 27 күн бұрын
Merci pour le documentaire. Und sujet très interessant.
@imineoDocumentaires
@imineoDocumentaires 26 күн бұрын
Merci à vous !
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
But it doesn't reflect the objective truth unfortunately.
@anthonybritti27
@anthonybritti27 Ай бұрын
Laws attempting to make certain languages illegal should never exist, should never be implemented.
@fernandoscrenci4874
@fernandoscrenci4874 Ай бұрын
Fantastic Doc!!!!👍🏻
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
Do not get fooled! The so called film doesn't reflect the objective truth!
@LIFESTDNT
@LIFESTDNT 15 күн бұрын
Greetings to our fellow Greek citizens of Muslim faith. Greece has three distinct indigenous Muslim ethnic groups. The largest is the “Turkish background” Muslims which make up approximately 57% of all indigenous Greek Muslims. Next are the Pomaks which make up approximately 33% of indigenous Greek Muslims. The third, final and smallest group of Greek Muslims are Roma who have adopted Islam. (Northern. Greek Roma. Southern Greek Roma tend to be Greek Orthodox.) And make up the remaining 10%. Those are the three indigenous Greek Muslim groups in Greece that make up the “Greek Muslim community.” (These groups are indigenous Greek citizens. And don’t include Muslim migrants from Albania and the Middle East of which there are many in Greece.)
@ayhankaracaoglu6845
@ayhankaracaoglu6845 15 күн бұрын
You are a Rum (false Greek) you are an outsider to GR as an immigrant from mid and east Türkiye. if you are not a Rum you are a native arvanite slav macedon vlah etc whose identity and language is denied. You are leg, your giving confort to head not accepted. Pomaks and Turks are natives of that land and they dont need the suffix Greek.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 10 күн бұрын
"Migrant" you poor deluded Greek nationalist. The Albanians are an indigenous group in Greece which Greece had genocided for years starting from Arta all the way to Athens. There many local ethnic Albanians in Greece such as Çams, Arvanites and Sulis.
@BETOETE
@BETOETE 9 күн бұрын
creful, Pomaks are NOT indigenous Greeks in origen, they have Slav roots from Bulgaria. living in Greece.
@LIFESTDNT
@LIFESTDNT 9 күн бұрын
By indigenous I meant not imported recently. Pomaks have lived in Thrace for centuries as Thrace has changed borders between Greece, Bulgaria, and the Ottoman Empire. But the Pomaks have always existed on both sides of the borders of Greece and Bulgaria. Although Bulgaria previously had more Pomaks than Greece. Don’t know now since many left Bulgaria for Turkey in the 90’s.
@ayhankaracaoglu6845
@ayhankaracaoglu6845 9 күн бұрын
@@LIFESTDNT Rums (false Greek) are imported people .They are outsiders. Present statusquo is not sustainable.
@chrystodouloschrystodoulak7067
@chrystodouloschrystodoulak7067 Ай бұрын
Greek government has abandoned all the Greek people not only pomaks.
@elisavetd381
@elisavetd381 Ай бұрын
C est EXACT MERCIE
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Ай бұрын
Pomaks are not Greek, don't be ridiculous.
@chrystodouloschrystodoulak7067
@chrystodouloschrystodoulak7067 Ай бұрын
@@TUNC66 μην είσαι ηλιθιος. Ανήκουν στην ελλ επικράτεια, έχουν ελλ ταυτότητες. Μήπως είσαι το Τουρκία προξενείο;
@pantheon56
@pantheon56 Ай бұрын
@TUNC66 Pomaks are indigenous Thacian populations known from Alexander the Great time. in fact, Greek historians mention their association with Alexander. There has nothing to do with Turks! Original Turks are from Mongolia. Speaking Turkish does not make one Turk !! In fact, most of the people in Thrace who speak Turkish are islamofied Balkan people!!!
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Ай бұрын
@@pantheon56 You did not understand my comment at all, first of all, I never used the word Turk for Pomaks, Pomaks are not Turks, but they are not Greeks at all.And let me tell you, there are many Pomaks in Turkey and Pomaks are Muslims, most of them speak Turkish, and this is enough for us, you Greeks, do not take credit for yourself from the Pomaks, you will be disappointed.
@MuhammadTahir-lf4hu
@MuhammadTahir-lf4hu Ай бұрын
Very informative video thanks
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
It doesn't reflect the objective truth. Do not get fooled!
@bgpobeda
@bgpobeda Ай бұрын
Помаци ,,Pomaci” is a not separate nation or another Bulgarian tribe. this is a word / synonym for "Bulgarians with Turkish heads/ self-awareness/ Turcophiles/ or Muslim Bulgarians." For example, there are other Bulgarian words for people who have changed their native consciousness: Влахи/ Власи "Vlachs/ Walachi” = Bulgarians with Roman heads/ Rimophiles. Сърби "Surbi" = Bulgarians with Russian heads/ Russophiles.
@almeu433
@almeu433 Ай бұрын
Vlachs is not a Bulgarian word. Wlochy in Polish means Italy. Vlachs were named by the Germanic tribes and meant wanderer of Roman origin. Vlachs means now " Romanian" outside Romania
@ashlyirvyn2917
@ashlyirvyn2917 29 күн бұрын
​@almeu433 Both of you are wrong. Vlahs actually Aromany, are by genetic origin Greeks from South Italy or Anatholia who were implanted around Balkan after Greeks joined Roman Emrire.
@almeu433
@almeu433 28 күн бұрын
@@ashlyirvyn2917 This is fake Greek malakia/ propaganda. Vlachs adopted Greek words but their base language is Latin..
@m7627
@m7627 28 күн бұрын
This movie is full of errors (when and how this region become part of Greece, the so called christianization and Bulgarization of the Pomaks in 13th century, tobacco admired by Byzantines - really!?). As the villains in this movie are presented the communist Bulgarians and the muslim Turks, while the good Greeks only forbid the use of Pomak's language in public and in schools and did nothing to improve the quality of life for these people in over 80 years of rule over their lands (at the time when this was filmed). I'm shocked that in 50 minutes not a single word or song in Pomaks language was presented in this "documentary".
@milenpetev811
@milenpetev811 28 күн бұрын
The second French film I watch about pomaks. In the previous one there was a girl who sang a song in the "incomprehensible" Pomak language according to the journalist - pure archaic Bulgarian language.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
This is not even a film....a made up story with 0 knowledge of history, 0 respect for culture and ethical belonging....Full of assumptions and a total nonsense
@myhindustan147
@myhindustan147 Ай бұрын
Soo interested video ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
The ,,film" doesn't reflect the objective truth. Do not get fooled!
@ibrahimsuleiman8473
@ibrahimsuleiman8473 Ай бұрын
The way the presenter speak about the women is like they are in prison, seriously to hell with the presenter .
@FishingAdventuresDubai
@FishingAdventuresDubai Ай бұрын
Indeed very biased and an asshole
@giorgiodifrancesco4590
@giorgiodifrancesco4590 15 күн бұрын
You can tell a mile away that they are submissive. You can tell all you want: our eyes are there and our ears are there.
@noahautumn7611
@noahautumn7611 Ай бұрын
Peace and love ☪️
@aminechareb6869
@aminechareb6869 23 күн бұрын
Donc si je comprends bien : les femmmes Pomaks n'ont qu'un seul droit, "celui de se taire" mais elles peuvent s'exprimer devant la camera d'un journaliste. Drôle de façon de se taire !!!
@AlbanianLanguageofGods
@AlbanianLanguageofGods 20 күн бұрын
It’s too clear they are. Albanian They just said they are forced to lern three languages
@GeoffreyMarlin
@GeoffreyMarlin Ай бұрын
Je t'aime beaucoup mais la je doit dormir ❤
@НадеждаСоколска
@НадеждаСоколска 17 күн бұрын
The first 5 min were enough - lies.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
I couldn't even make it to the third minute!!!!! Unbelievable! I was shocked by the incompetency..... My jaw dropped down the floor 😄🤷‍♂️😳
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
La maman qui sert tout le monde avant de se servir elle-même, on connaît ça, cela n'a été qu'un temps ... trop long
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
Maudite enfer noire .... lâchez pas les amis
@user-dy8dg8bh4d
@user-dy8dg8bh4d 28 күн бұрын
είχα δουλέψει με πολλούς σε Ελληνικά πλοία, παραδοσιακοί και φιλότιμοι
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 3 күн бұрын
Their language is Pomak, yet they're taught Turkish, Greek and Arabic. they should be taught Greek and Pomak.
@paolaluchsinger3116
@paolaluchsinger3116 9 күн бұрын
What year is this documentary from? Looks like the 90’s.
@rodolfovergara7970
@rodolfovergara7970 Ай бұрын
There is a very big mistake regarding the cultivation of tobacco in Thrace. This plant is native to the American continent. It was introduced to Europe by the Spanish in the 16th century. Then, French traders brought it to Ottoman domains. Therefore, it was absolutely impossible for the Eastern Romans (Byzantines) to consume it.
@knowledgekey4298
@knowledgekey4298 Ай бұрын
Mashaallah Nice documentry love from Bihar India
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
The so called film unfortunately doesn't reflect the objective truth.
@esmabatak8681
@esmabatak8681 25 күн бұрын
Türkçe dublajda olsaydı keşke 😢 güzel bir videoya benziyo ❤❤
@MrMotown2011
@MrMotown2011 6 күн бұрын
Summary of the Video on the Pomak People The video provides an in-depth look at the Pomak people, an ethnic group living in the mountainous region of Thrace, Greece. It explores their struggles, cultural identity, and the socio-political challenges they face due to their unique position between three countries: Greece, Bulgaria, and Turkey. Harsh Living Conditions - The landscape is described as rugged and harsh, with winter conditions making farming difficult. - Pomak men, women, and horses work tirelessly on the land, hoping to produce enough to survive the winter. - The Pomaks are depicted as living under the pressure of three different nations, languages, and religions. Cultural Identity and Education - The Pomak children learn in three different languages but struggle to gain a solid education. Despite attending school, their learning is compromised due to the complexity of the situation. - Women are shown to be largely voiceless and face significant societal constraints, while also expressing a desire for change. Historical Context - The video explains the complicated history of the Pomaks, who are descendants of the Agrianes and have lived in the region long before modern borders were established. - Historical invasions and occupations by Bulgarians, Ottomans, and Greeks have shaped their current predicament. - After World War II, many Pomaks sought attachment to Greece to escape communism, but they remain a minority and face neglect from the Greek government. Struggles for Survival - The Pomaks primarily cultivate tobacco, which is their main source of income. However, government quotas limit their production and income. - The video highlights the physical difficulties of farming in steep terrains and poor weather conditions, exacerbated by a lack of governmental support. - There is a sense of despair among Pomak farmers as they deal with an insufficient economy and loss of traditional ways of life. Cultural Blending and Identity Crisis - The Pomaks navigate a complex cultural landscape where Turkish and Greek influences dominate. - Many young Pomaks feel torn between their traditional identity and modern pressures to assimilate into broader Greek or Turkish society. - Despite attempts to retain their language and customs, the video illustrates the existential threat to Pomak culture posed by external pressures. Conclusion - The video concludes with a poignant reflection on the future of the Pomaks, who are caught between preserving their identity and adapting to external influences. - The ongoing struggle for survival amidst political and economic challenges paints a bleak picture, yet the pride in their heritage remains strong among the Pomak community. This summary encapsulates the key themes and messages presented in the video about the Pomak people, illustrating their resilience in the face of adversity while grappling with issues of identity and survival.
@nikolainikolov4620
@nikolainikolov4620 28 күн бұрын
Pomaks are Bulgarians with Muslim religion!
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
Ils sont carrément abusés , à visage découvert et sans gêne par les grecs ou qui que ce soit
@mayobintacoulibaly1706
@mayobintacoulibaly1706 Ай бұрын
Les pomaks c'est ma première fois d'entendre ça
@Sokratis-qv9ld
@Sokratis-qv9ld Ай бұрын
Τhis is a true multiculturalism forged through eons honoring it's identity. Καλό μήνα στα Πομακοχώρια μας!🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷💙💙💙🤍🤍🤍
@yakupkeser248
@yakupkeser248 Ай бұрын
24.3.2024 In Etnos newspaper, Nikos Gianidis says, "Our identity is taken out of the garbage dump of history." In that garbage dump of history, there are also Hittites, etc. There is no one who denies ancient Greece. However, in his book in 1834, Jacob Philipp Fallmerayer also says that these so-called Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greece and are a Slavic state. Dr. Georgios Nakracas also says the same thing. Now Edi Rama and Macedonia are saying it openly... It is not possible to keep Greece alive with the Greeks remaining in history. Bulgarians are the first Turks to become Muslims. Pomaks and Çıtaks were Turks. 500 since There were Avar, Pecheneg, Bulgarian, Cuman-Kipchak and Uz Turks in the Balkans, Central Europe and Anatolia. Since there was no Islam, they became Orthodox.
@user-mq6ny7gn5u
@user-mq6ny7gn5u Ай бұрын
Es ist eine Minderheit. Ansässig in türkischer, wie auch bulgarischer- griechischer Grenze. Je nachdem, auf welcher Seite sie leben, dementsprechend der Pass.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
​@user-mq6ny7gn5u But the ethnicity and the native language is Bulgarian Thanks!
@yakupkeser248
@yakupkeser248 10 күн бұрын
@@user-od6ge6kj3e If we brought you all the books in the libraries, you would not accept them. After the Huns, from 500 onwards, Avars, Bulgars, Cuman-Kipchaks, Pechenegs and Uz Turks came to the Balkans, Central Europe and Anatolia. They became Christians because Islam did not exist yet. The Avars besieged Constantinople in 618 and 626. A prayer called BELLIUM AVARICUM was offered in Constantinople. Prayer is read. This prayer is still sung as the 6th hymn every Easter in Orthodox churches. As you can see, it's Latin/Italian. Greek began to be spoken after the 8th century. If you said Roman Empire, I wouldn't object. Today, there are 40,000 people who remain Catholic in Turkey. There are also Orthodox Bulgarians, Albanians, Macedonians, Serbs and Greeks. However, the ancient Greek we call Greece no longer exists. I'm not saying this. Romans who were Catholics are called Italians today. Due to sectarian conflicts, Orthodox people were called RUM, that is, Romans, but a nation called Greek was invented... Bulgarians, Turks from Central Asia. They were the first Muslims to come to Asia and settle on the Volga. Those who came to the Balkans were Bulgarians who became Slavs... BULGARIANS ARE TURKS. Serbs, Romanians, Macedonians, Albanians, Bosniaks, etc. are not Turks. Pomaks are also Turkish. They are among the Cuman Turks.
@altarique123
@altarique123 Ай бұрын
Love our Muslim brothers and sisters from USA
@sidimuslim9353
@sidimuslim9353 Ай бұрын
Love to my Muslim brothers and sisters in the US, Salam from Austria, Europa.
@Lucian0O
@Lucian0O Ай бұрын
Ortodox Balkan Power breeeee!!!!
@pumbalaura
@pumbalaura 15 күн бұрын
Това видео е абсолютно невярно. "Помак" е дума, която означава " потурчен" българин. Внушението, че това е отделена етническа група е заплатено от чужди правителства, които имат интерес да създадат етнически проблем в България и Гърция. Тази каша от информация е абсолютно невярна и злонамерена. Всички потурчени, т. е. насила ислямизирани села, имат запазени своите предишни български и гръцки имена. Не съществува език на помаците. Те говорят само своите родни езици - гръцки и български, а Турция се опитва да заграби територии. Създаването на изкуствени нации е стара западна практика. Но такава етническа група никога не е съществувала. Не използвайте невежествотопна западната публика. Помаците, специално в България, са принуждавани, с масови кланета на цели села, да приемат исляма и тези кланета над това, чисто българско, население, са документирани, от българите, но и от турската тогавашна власт. Спрете да разпространявате лъжи и се справяйте с исляма в собствените си страни, а ако желаете, ппеподавайте във Франция на турски и арабски език. И как така наричате България и Гърция Тракия. Държава Тракия не е съществувала, това е Обединено название на над 120 племена на траките, всяко със свои царе, столица и отделно име. Те не съществуват като етническа общност от над 1700 години. Поредното френско безсрамие.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
Това е абсолютно несериозно и предубеден опит за направа на някакъв филм....пародия! Гротеската! Пълна подигравка с хората и с реалността. Да не говорим за исторически факти,аргументи и т.н.
@user-mi1zh1yu8z
@user-mi1zh1yu8z 6 күн бұрын
Είναι ελληνική φυλή της Θράκης η οποία Θράκη σαν έδαφος βρίσκεται στα βόρεια μέσα στη Βουλγαρία και ανατολικά μέσα στην Τουρκία κάποτε ανήκαν εξ ολοκλήρου στους Έλληνες εδώ και 10 χιλιάδες χρόνια αυτό το αρχαίο ελληνικό φύλο δεν ανήκει πουθενά αλλού πάρα μόνο στην Ελλάδα η γλώσσα στα άλλα μέρη χάθηκε λόγο κατακτητών ξένων σε αύρα τα μέρη
@user-xs9cr8op3q
@user-xs9cr8op3q Ай бұрын
Thats why they never change,why they learn turkish if they live in Greece, how they can be successfully if they want to stay a live in Greece when they don't know greek, or to be in university in greece
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Ай бұрын
Because they are Pomaks, not Greeks
@zeljkomikulicic4378
@zeljkomikulicic4378 Ай бұрын
​@@TUNC66but also they are not turks.
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Ай бұрын
@@zeljkomikulicic4378 I didn't say Turkish anyway, but most of them know Turkish and are Muslims, that's enough for us.
@zeljkomikulicic4378
@zeljkomikulicic4378 Ай бұрын
@@TUNC66 they are slavic people. Not greeks not turks.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
​@@zeljkomikulicic4378 They are Bulgarians
@nphipps9406
@nphipps9406 22 күн бұрын
these people have to learn to do things that work for them rather THAN OLD TRADITIONS WHICH DO NOT WORK FOR THEIR OWN GOOD. they may need to modernised themselves
@LeTchagatayEmpire
@LeTchagatayEmpire 5 күн бұрын
Les Pomaks ne sont pas Turc , ce sont comme des roumain qui sont intégrer dans chaque pays a chaque religions , pomaklar Turklukle Alakasi bile yoktur
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
Que ce serait bien de pouvoir faire quelque chose pour eux
@felix25ize
@felix25ize 12 сағат бұрын
Elles n'ont que le droit de se taire, et encore on peut le leur enlever ... ^^
@wewenang5167
@wewenang5167 26 күн бұрын
These are Muslims Slavic people who were persecuted and separated by the Christian Bulgarian. They are ethnically slavic same as any Balkans and Bulgarian but because they accepted Islam the other Slave did not accepted them to be one of them. They have no relations to any Turkic ethnic at all. They are pure Slavic just like Bosnian Muslim.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
Don't talk nonsense! There's no Bulgarian that separates Pomaks for any reason. We are both same people with the same language, but different religion.
@traianospomar5720
@traianospomar5720 11 күн бұрын
It's not clear what is the Ahrene's third religion. The narrator mentions three religions of the population several times. Is it Paganism or Heretical Christianity?
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
The narrator doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. The whole film is a made up story. It doesn't reflect the objective truth. Just don't mind it and don't get fooled, please!
@timstravellingwok
@timstravellingwok 8 күн бұрын
The translation of the narrators, is totally different to what the characters in the video are saying. This video is projecting a false narrative...... Shame!
@Ellen-ni3ik
@Ellen-ni3ik Ай бұрын
Khong Jao kuon Hao rang KAP sien ri Lao jai
@gonzalesfrederic6213
@gonzalesfrederic6213 19 күн бұрын
Leurs ancètres, moins courageux que les autres bulgares, se convertirent pour éviter pire sous le joug ottoman.
@peterlampropoulos3505
@peterlampropoulos3505 10 күн бұрын
Greece has them under pressure? See if the pomacs can live this life in turkey or bulgaria.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 10 күн бұрын
Çam genocide
@s.s.3433
@s.s.3433 6 күн бұрын
Which are the 3 religions?
@user-kq5qp6dh8l
@user-kq5qp6dh8l 10 күн бұрын
What’s the music playing when they are harvesting the tobacco, about 12 mins from the end.
@user-qx3mq7ff5c
@user-qx3mq7ff5c 10 күн бұрын
Shazam
@user-kq5qp6dh8l
@user-kq5qp6dh8l 10 күн бұрын
@@user-qx3mq7ff5c is that the tune or the artist
@user-qx3mq7ff5c
@user-qx3mq7ff5c 10 күн бұрын
@@user-kq5qp6dh8l App
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
Des quotas sur le tabac imposés par l'UE ... tonnerre de tonnerre
@eliassmyrneos1247
@eliassmyrneos1247 Ай бұрын
These people are Greek dissent, their name in Greek means the Warriors on the horse = ΙΠΠΟΜΑΧΟΙ ‼️🇬🇷👍
@elisavetd381
@elisavetd381 Ай бұрын
C EST EXACT MERCI!!!
@eliassmyrneos1247
@eliassmyrneos1247 Ай бұрын
@@elisavetd381 Pas de quoi mon ami ‼️👍
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 Ай бұрын
Eskimos were Greek too 😂
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Ай бұрын
No no, stop with this nonsense, Pomaks are not Greeks, stop with your nonsense Greek racism.
@kolp-qy2ml
@kolp-qy2ml Ай бұрын
Помак , означава помъчен човек....за да приеме исляма....когато османлиите са превземали България , преди столетия , с мъчения са налагали исляма на българите...та това представляват помаците - ислямизирани българи!
@vedatuzunlu8869
@vedatuzunlu8869 Ай бұрын
Greetings to aur Pomak brothers from Türkiye❤❤
@user-uk1bi4fp4z
@user-uk1bi4fp4z Ай бұрын
Pomaks are Muslim Bulgarians!
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
C'est impensable tout de même d'être embarrassé par sa propre identité
@user-sf2jq1yj5n
@user-sf2jq1yj5n 17 күн бұрын
Do you know the meaning of the word - Pomak. This is a word from the Bulgarian language - pomachen or "pomuchen", pomachen - a person who forcibly becomes someone else. All waves of forced Islamization in the Rhodopes are documented and available in the Ottoman archives. The population is mostly of Bulgarian origin, but there are of course Greeks and Serbs in ader part of Bolkans. A large part of these people have relatives who are still Christians in Bulgaria. I am a Bulgarian Christian and I have Greek roots from Thrace and Constantinople. There is no nationality - pomak, no language - pomak, this is a not tru.
@TheBlock-su2kl
@TheBlock-su2kl Ай бұрын
je suis a 1:20 de la video et il y a de la propagande anti musulman mais je reconnais que parler de leur mauvaisw situation les aiderait .je dit donc dit du bien et eviter de sopoudrer de mal.merci
@mahoaga6626
@mahoaga6626 Ай бұрын
Au contraire ces enfants seront trilingues ce qui n’est pas donné à tout le monde
@orxrus666
@orxrus666 Ай бұрын
Tu ne sais pas toute l'énergie et capacité intellectuelle qu'il faut pour être trilingue, tu as bien entendu le professeur, c'est trop dur pour eux et ils confondent les lettres des trois langues entres elles, surtout qu'à la maison on leur parle une quatrième langue ! Ce qui rajoute encore plus de difficultés.
@FYNh-IYI-cCc
@FYNh-IYI-cCc Ай бұрын
⁠@@orxrus666avant mes 16 ans j’étais déjà trilingue. Turc et français à la naissance et l’anglais avec l’école. Et tout ça d’une facilité incroyable. Mais il a raison c’est pas donné à tout le monde d’après ce que je vois dans mon entourage.
@FYNh-IYI-cCc
@FYNh-IYI-cCc Ай бұрын
@@orxrus666je pense qu’un enfant peut apprendre au moins 4 langues avant ses 16 ans
@Sokratis-qv9ld
@Sokratis-qv9ld Ай бұрын
​@@orxrus666Η Πομακική γλώσσα είναι προφορική και όχι γραπτή όπως όλες οι πανάρχαιες γλώσσες. Μόλις τα πρόσφατα χρόνια τυπώθηκαν βιβλία στην Πομακική.
@elisavetd381
@elisavetd381 Ай бұрын
Lea Pomaque veut dire de l encienne temps les gueriers ILS etait des gueries vaillants de ALEXANDRE LE GRAND . MALHEUREUSEMENT ILS ONT ETE MALMENEE DES ROMAINES DES BULGARES DES TURQUES ET LE PLUS TRISTE EST D ETRE ABANDONE PAR LES GOUVERNEMENTS SOIS DISANT GREQUES SA C EST LE MALHEUR DE TOUS LES GREQUES MAIS IL YA LE DIEUX QUI NOUS SAUVERA DES VOTOURS ET DES HIENS C EST SUR COMME LE SOLEILLE BRILLER !!!🌞🌝
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
Il y a des gens beaucoup plus courageux que moi, je connaissais le mot thrace mais pomak, jamais
@starshine6472
@starshine6472 18 күн бұрын
The narrator's take on this whole situation is awfully slanted and pessimistic. It would be nice if he could have presented things in a more neutral tone, attempting to understand the points of view of all the groups involved and focusing more on the natural strengths of the people. He really drives home his conviction that the Pomaks are helpless victims and everyone around them are just heartless oppressors. Are things ever as simple as that sort of caricature?
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
This whole thing...the so called film...is a total nonsense. Don't even mind it! 😅
@MedIbrahimidrissIbrahim
@MedIbrahimidrissIbrahim Ай бұрын
We must be freed from the enemies of Grece, brothers and sisters of Pomaks ❤
@kostastsa
@kostastsa Ай бұрын
the Pomaks were and are the ancient Thracians and they continue to live in the area where they lived then. They have nothing to do with the Mongolian origin of the Turks... it's just that the Turks have found a dirty and cunning way to christen those peoples they had subjugated as Turks ottoman empire you know why.......
@dimitrifaillard9972
@dimitrifaillard9972 29 күн бұрын
The pomaks are Bulgarians who converted to Islam.
@kostastsa
@kostastsa 29 күн бұрын
what are you and you say it with such certainty??? with what quality??? are you a geneticist??? I have a friend who says what I said...​@@dimitrifaillard9972
@nikosmihalo4706
@nikosmihalo4706 28 күн бұрын
Bulgarian is one medivial race from Central asia they came in Balkan in medivial and in one period start to talk slavic language.
@nikolainikolov4620
@nikolainikolov4620 28 күн бұрын
Pomaks are Bulgarians with Islam religion
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
The language spoken clearly shows their ethnicity 😊😉
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
On peut ne plus avoir l'âge de se marier... encore une autre affaire
@Lucian0O
@Lucian0O Ай бұрын
we the romanians know that the pomaks are islamized bulgars.
@user-uk1bi4fp4z
@user-uk1bi4fp4z Ай бұрын
Good for you, you are smart 😄
@miralemmehanovic5999
@miralemmehanovic5999 29 күн бұрын
They are not only Bulgarians or Macedonians, they are themselves Slavic, going by the name Pomak. They used to be Bogomilians too.
@user-uk1bi4fp4z
@user-uk1bi4fp4z 29 күн бұрын
@miralemmehanovic5999 Why do you comment something you know nothing about?
@miralemmehanovic5999
@miralemmehanovic5999 29 күн бұрын
@@user-uk1bi4fp4z I tell you what the Pomak brothers told me! Not you!
@nikolainikolov4620
@nikolainikolov4620 28 күн бұрын
Exactly pomaks are Bulgarians with Islam religion
@cingistimucin5704
@cingistimucin5704 Ай бұрын
Vous mentez, les ottomans n ont jamais obligés les peuple vivants ds les region colonises a prendre la religion musulmane, il b y a qu a voir les serbe, une partie est restee serbe l autre est devenue bosnique, pareil pour les albanais les tziganes des balkans, les bulgares grecs et pomaks.
@lela8405
@lela8405 Ай бұрын
Black humor bro
@user-mi1zh1yu8z
@user-mi1zh1yu8z 6 күн бұрын
Η πιο όμορφη ελληνική φυλή
11 күн бұрын
If they call themselves greek then they are greek They know they're on history
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 11 күн бұрын
All of Greece is Albanian and Turkish.
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
Do they call themselves Greeks?!? 😂🤔😄
@user-mi1zh1yu8z
@user-mi1zh1yu8z 6 күн бұрын
​​@@southepirote7676χαχαχα είσαι ανόητος οι Έλληνες είναι σε αυτά τα μέρη χιλιάδες χρόνια Αλβανοί και Τούρκοι πριν 2 χιλιάδες χρόνια δεν υπήρχαν ούτε ως δείγμα οι Έλληνες ήταν είναι και ονομάζονται έτσι 10 χιλιάδες χρόνια
@sergebourque6239
@sergebourque6239 Ай бұрын
Tonnerre de dieu... rester vivant
@may_laytrucker3127
@may_laytrucker3127 14 күн бұрын
As a türk i feel for my pomak people who they live oppressed regime of Greece and Bulgaria 😢young pomak couple complaining refusing to speak türkish,yet he speaks Greek
@nemesis1487
@nemesis1487 11 күн бұрын
What an utter bullshit. Pomaks have same rights like Greeks. They are greek Muslims. Get your facts straight and open your brainwashed mind.
@shatuz
@shatuz 25 күн бұрын
They are not thracians. You should inform better
@danchokonstantinov6735
@danchokonstantinov6735 13 күн бұрын
They are indigenous people for millenia and descendants of ancient thracian tribes
@yakupkeser248
@yakupkeser248 Ай бұрын
24.3.2024 In Etnos newspaper, Nikos Gianidis says, "Our identity is taken out of the garbage dump of history." In that garbage dump of history, there are also Hittites, etc. There is no one who denies ancient Greece. However, in his book in 1834, Jacob Philipp Fallmerayer also says that these so-called Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greece and are a Slavic state. Dr. Georgios Nakracas also says the same thing. Now Edi Rama and Macedonia are saying it openly... It is not possible to keep Greece alive with the Greeks remaining in history. Bulgarians are the first Turks to become Muslims. Pomaks and Çıtaks were Turks. 500 since There were Avar, Pecheneg, Bulgarian, Cuman-Kipchak and Uz Turks in the Balkans, Central Europe and Anatolia. Since there was no Islam, they became Orthodox.
@anastasiachristakos2480
@anastasiachristakos2480 Ай бұрын
" However, in his book in 1834, Jacob Philipp Fallmerayer also says that these so-called Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greece and are a Slavic state." Oh do tell... how did Fallmerayer come to that conclusion ...hmmm... did he see it in his dream,? did some spiritual being possessed him and he saw the light? Or was it that he wanted to secure his position as council to the new Greek monarch of German decent that was imposed on the Greeks by the Germans after the Greek revolution from the Turks...???? His statement is out of context because he went on to advise the monarch to affinity towards the Greeks... Btw- if you are Bulgarian- why don't you take a dna test- there is a 65% chance that you might be Greek.. heck in Turkey, the Turks are 1/3 Greek, 1/3 Armenian and 1/3 Kurdish and only 8% of Far Eastern origins...haha.. It is a numbers game and when no conquering army is limited to just slaughter and forced submission of the population, well there is never enough to flip the existing indigenous genetic pool of that area... As for Dr. Narkracas....well have you heard of snake oil saleman... voodoo therapists and theoretical so called theories whipped out to serve certain narratives that pay well...are you one of them?
@yakupkeser248
@yakupkeser248 Ай бұрын
@@anastasiachristakos2480 Masal bitti.Bana değil derdini yukarda yazdıklarıma anlat.Almanlar size OTTO yu dayatmadı.Şu andaki meclis binanız dahil müze vs de yaptı.İflas ettikçe size para da vardi Ve vermeye devam ediyor.Bir de memr gönderdi ,şimdi zama vs yapamıyorsunuz.İMAM BAİLDİ Yunan yemeği nasıl olur? İmam ne demek? Bayılmanın lügattaki değil buradaki manası nedir? Cevap verebilirmisin? DNA ,ırkı belirlemez ,coğrafyayı belirler.Türklerin DNA ya ihiyacı yoktur .Beliri diğer özellikleri var.Ancak acınacak halde ola Yunanistan şimdi savaş suçlusu olacak.Ukrayna ya Dedeağaçtan TIR lar ile silah gidiyor.Gazze ye Girit ,Kıbrıs dan gidiyor.Soyadlarınız neden Türkçe.O da baskı değilmi? İşiniz gücüüz yalan.Baskı yapsakdık bugün olmazdınız.1934 senesine kadar Türkler soyadı bilmiyorlardı ve kullanmadılar.Efi AŞÇIOĞLU, Fotini ARABACI,Stavro NECİPOĞLU ,Prof Evangelia BALTA saymakla bitmez.Sen DNA na değil de,müzelerde heykellere ,kiliselerde ikonalara ve bir de aynaya bak.Çekik gözlü ,yuvarlak yüzlü YUNAN mı yoksa TÜRKmü olur diye kendine sor. Απόψεις ┋ 24.03.2024 07:55 Νίκος Τζιανίδης Νίκος Τζιανίδης Συντάκτης-Αρθρογράφος Ενότητες στο άρθρο: 📌 Δεν λευτερωθήκαμε ποτέ! Ελληνική Επανάσταση είπατε; Μετά 203 χρόνια ίδιοι τσιφλικάδες, ίδιοι ραγιάδες, ίδια χάλια και… καλή λευτεριά, κάποτε! 🕛 χρόνος ανάγνωσης: 3 λεπτά ┋ 🗣 Ανοικτό για σχολιασμό επόμενο άρθρο Ελληνική Επανάσταση; Έχουν περάσει 203 χρόνια κι ακόμα ίδιοι τσιφλικάδες, ίδιοι ραγιάδες, ίδια χάλια! Ποια Επανάσταση; Είναι ένα από τα ελαττώματα της φυλής, που προέκυψε μετά τα τόοοσα χρόνια της χαμένης εθνικής μας ταυτότητας στη χωματερή της Ιστορίας: ο ραγιαδισμός! Από τους Ρωμαίους της Δύσης στους Ρωμιούς της Ανατολής (Βυζαντινοί ονομάστηκαν πολύ αργότερα από την εποχή τους…) και μετά στους Οθωμανούς. Από το εξανθρωπισμένο χαμογελαστό Δωδεκάθεο, στον απόκοσμο σκυθρωπό Χριστιανισμό. Από την ευκλεή Ακρόπολη και την πλαστικότητα των αγαλμάτων στα σκοτεινά μοναστήρια και στα ακρωτηριασμένα μυαλά… Και εγένετο (και πάλι) Ελλάς… ΔΙΑΒΑΣΤΕ ΕΠΙΣΗΣ Ιστορία | 15.03.2024 07:55 Προδότες που λέρωσαν την ιστορία της Επανάστασης: από τον Κουγιά στον Νενέκο, στους προεστούς και την Εκκλησία Και οι «σφάξε με Αγάμ' ν΄αγιάσω» κι οι δραγουμάνοι κι οι κοτζαμπάσηδες κι οι ραγιάδες από κοντά, πέρασαν στεγνοί το ποτάμι που κατέβαζε νερό 400 χρόνων σκλαβιάς και πάτησαν στην όχθη του νεοελληνικού κράτους, αίροντες αμαρτίες αιώνων ειρκτής της σκέψης, του σώματος, της ψυχής και της δημιουργίας. Και μετά ήρθαν- απρόσκλητοι- οι Βαυαροί μισέλληνες, κι ακολούθησαν οι Δανοί πρίγκιπες που δεν γνώριζαν καν ότι κάπου υπήρχε Ελλάδα, οι Δανοί με τα μαραμένα γενεαλογικά δέντρα, που άνθιασαν στον τόπο μας ξανά· και μετά ήρθε η Δημοκρατία κι οι δικτατορικές παρενθέσεις κι η μονιμότητα της προσωρινής «σοφίας του λαού» που ψηφίζει πάντα εκδικητικά γι’ αυτόν που βλέπει στον καθρέφτη… Κι οι χατζηαβάτηδες γίναν κομματόσκυλα κι οι δραγουμάνοι γίναν δημόσιοι φορείς κι οι κοτζαμπάσηδες δωσίλογοι κι οι ραγιάδες έμειναν ραγιάδες κι οι Καραγκιόζηδες γινήκαν κυβερνήτες! Και σήμερα, 203 χρόνια από την Ελληνική Επανάσταση, ακόμα οι Φασουλήδες και οι Περικλέτοι και οι καιροσκόποι - κερδοσκόποι σε θώκους θρονιασμένοι, παίζουν τους εξουσιαστές κι από κάτω οι άνεργοι, χαμηλόμισθοι, συνταξιούχοι, απολυμένοι, καταπιεσμένοι και ταπεινωμένοι αποζητούν το χάδι και τα ψιχία των αρχόντων: ντύνονται τσολιαδάκια στο Facebook και καμαρώνουν φορώντας την Ελληνική Σημαία-πασμίνα και βαυκαλίζονται πως είναι αυτοί οι συνεχιστές της αρχαίας κληρονομιάς· οι παλιάτσοι! Αδειανά ψυγεία, γεμάτες οι Εντατικές, άδειες τσέπες, γεμάτα από σκάνδαλα τα μνημοκιβώτια της Ιστορίας, ξύλο στις πλατείες, και στα Πανεπιστήμια, ριάλιτι αποχαύνωσης στην ενημέρωση, δημοσιογράφοι-γελωτοποιοί στην Αυλή της φαυλοκρατίας. Δεν λευτερωθήκαμε ποτέ! Powered ByVDO.AI Get In Touch With Us Today Want to chat? Have questions? Drop us a note at hello@vdo.ai. Join the future of video advertising with VDO.AI. ... Μετά 203 χρόνια ο ίδιος «ραγιάς εαυτός μας», μάς καταδυναστεύει. Οι ίδιοι τσιφλικάδες τρώνε και πίνουν και γλεντάνε με τσαντάκια τσολιαδάκια και γιορτές και φανφάρες και μπάντες κι άλλοι με γραβάτες, άλλοι με ζιβάγκο και ανοιχτά πουκάμισα και άλλοι- εσχάτως- με κάλτσα αστακοπλουμιστή, στην πλάτη μας παρελαύνουν! Κι όσο «εκείνοι», οι λιγοστοί, που πριν από 203 χρόνια «αφιερώνονταν ολόκληροι εις την ιεράν πατρίδα», τόσο οι «πολλοί», στις μέρες μας, αφιερώνονται στην εξαθλίωση και λεηλάτησή της! Κι όσοι έχυσαν αίμα για την ελευθερία, παρακολουθούν (από ψηλά;) την υποδούλωση στην κομματική και οικονομική τυραννία. Γιατί; Γιατί 203 χρόνια τώρα… «κι ακόμη τούτη τη γη Ραγιάδες τηνε κατοικούν και ξένοι την πατάνε»… Μέχρι τα 300 χρόνια...καλή λευτεριά!
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Ай бұрын
@@anastasiachristakos2480According to official figures, the number of Greeks currently living in Turkey is around 4500. The number of Armenians is around 50 to 70 thousand, these are official figures.
@anastasiachristakos2480
@anastasiachristakos2480 Ай бұрын
@@TUNC66 I was talking about genetic identity. Forgot to specify that. Sorry
@elizluv
@elizluv Ай бұрын
@@TUNC66 Turkey have Islamized by force many nations including Greeks Armenians and Assyrians (old Christian Chaldeans) Now they used a propaganda to make them believe they're Turks in a sovereign country by forcing them to learn Turkish Recently they ousted one of their muftis as far as we know
@ayseoz9184
@ayseoz9184 2 күн бұрын
Is the bias in the tone of the narrator a joke?!
@ionidhunedoara1491
@ionidhunedoara1491 Ай бұрын
There is E. Orthodox church and Islam. What is the third religion? Were they once affiliated with the Bogomilia? Why can't gov't restore afforestation and terrace agriculture? The land is plowed the wrong way and the soil washes down. The women who danced the martyrdom of Zollogu were Arvantikan Souliotis who fought the Turks. Tobacco has only come to the region 300 years ago.
@yakupkeser248
@yakupkeser248 Ай бұрын
24.3.2024 In Etnos newspaper, Nikos Gianidis says, "Our identity is taken out of the garbage dump of history." In that garbage dump of history, there are also Hittites, etc. There is no one who denies ancient Greece. However, in his book in 1834, Jacob Philipp Fallmerayer also says that these so-called Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greece and are a Slavic state. Dr. Georgios Nakracas also says the same thing. Now Edi Rama and Macedonia are saying it openly... It is not possible to keep Greece alive with the Greeks remaining in history. Bulgarians are the first Turks to become Muslims. Pomaks and Çıtaks were Turks. 500 since There were Avar, Pecheneg, Bulgarian, Cuman-Kipchak and Uz Turks in the Balkans, Central Europe and Anatolia. Since there was no Islam, they became Orthodox.
@anastasiachristakos2480
@anastasiachristakos2480 Ай бұрын
@@yakupkeser248 " However, in his book in 1834, Jacob Philipp Fallmerayer also says that these so-called Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greece and are a Slavic state." Oh do tell... how did Fallmerayer come to that conclusion ...hmmm... did he see it in his dream,? did some spiritual being possessed him and he saw the light? Or was it that he wanted to secure his position as council to the new Greek monarch of German decent that was imposed on the Greeks by the Germans after the Greek revolution from the Turks...???? His statement is out of context because he went on to advise the monarch to affinity towards the Greeks... Btw- if you are Bulgarian- why don't you take a dna test- there is a 65% chance that you might be Greek.. heck in Turkey, the Turks are 1/3 Greek, 1/3 Armenian and 1/3 Kurdish and only 8% of Far Eastern origins...haha.. It is a numbers game and when no conquering army is limited to just slaughter and forced submission of the population, well there is never enough to flip the existing indigenous genetic pool of that area... As for Dr. Narkracas....well have you heard of snake oil saleman... voodoo therapists and theoretical so called theories whipped out to serve certain narratives that pay well...are you one of them?
@user-uk1bi4fp4z
@user-uk1bi4fp4z Ай бұрын
Bogomilism is Bulgarian sect, lol. Bogomil was Bulgarian 🤣🤣🤣
@yakupkeser248
@yakupkeser248 28 күн бұрын
@@anastasiachristakos2480 If I bring you all the libraries and scientists, your opinion will not change. İmam Bayıldı is Greek food, Harmandalı is Greek music, your surnames are Turkish but I'm Greek, right? Wash your head again with detergent.
@iyaibeji4120
@iyaibeji4120 13 күн бұрын
They Look more Like grece not turkey
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
They look absolutely alike everybody living in the region. But ethnically they are Bulgarians
@TheKoolblu
@TheKoolblu 18 күн бұрын
Grow cannabis
@unclegeorgechristodoulou7823
@unclegeorgechristodoulou7823 Ай бұрын
BOULGARIANS AND TURKS APPEARED IN THE AREA AFTER 6TH CENTURY AD POMAKS WERE THE ANCIENT ALEXANDER'S THE GREAT... IPPOMACHI (CAVALRY FIGHTERS) THEIR ORIGIN WAS AGRIANES ANCIENT TRIBE FROM THRACE.. AND THE IPPOMACHI BECAME POMAKI...
@user-po9pu4ev4h
@user-po9pu4ev4h Ай бұрын
ΒΟΎΛΓΑΡΟΙ -ΜΥΡΜΙΔΟΝΕΣ ΕΊΝΑΙ, ΌΠΩΣ Ο ΑΧΙΛΛΈΑΣ!!!!!! ΚΕ ΕΣΎ ΜΠΟΡΕΊ ΝΑ ΕΊΣΑΙ ΒΟΥΛΓΑΡΟΣ! ΚΛΈΨΑΤΕ ΌΛΑ, ΚΕ ΤΟ ΑΊΜΑ
@kolp-qy2ml
@kolp-qy2ml Ай бұрын
Пълно глупости...българите сме от БОГ , а турците са от ататюрк...
@user-od6ge6kj3e
@user-od6ge6kj3e 10 күн бұрын
So why is their mother tongue Bulgarian 😂🤔😄
@udififkfkfck
@udififkfkfck Ай бұрын
Pomacks are islamized Bulgarians but official Greece & Turkey call them Bulgaro speaking no etnicity ppl.
@unclegeorgechristodoulou7823
@unclegeorgechristodoulou7823 Ай бұрын
THAT A B/S... BOULGARIANS AND TURKS APPEARED IN THE AREA AFTER 6TH CENTURY AD POMAKS WERE THE ANCIENT ALEXANDER'S THE GREAT... IPPOMACHI (CAVALRY FIGHTERS) THEIR ORIGIN WAS AGRIANES ANCIENT TRIBE FROM THRACE.. AND THE IPPOMACHI BECAME POMAKI...
@kolp-qy2ml
@kolp-qy2ml Ай бұрын
​@@unclegeorgechristodoulou7823глупости пишеш...турците са от сто години...измисли ги ататюрк!
@kolp-qy2ml
@kolp-qy2ml Ай бұрын
@udifi....гърците и турците са асимилатори...кага ще признаят българската идентичност на помаците?Никога!...затова лъжат , защото ако признаят истината , ще признаят , че са измислени "народи"на сто години!
@dimitrifaillard9972
@dimitrifaillard9972 29 күн бұрын
@@unclegeorgechristodoulou7823 False. There is no scientific data to back that claim. Pomaks are southern slavs who speak Bulgarian. They are Muslim Bulgarians who converted under the ottoman rule.
@selinozenci5216
@selinozenci5216 25 күн бұрын
That's false Türkiye call us Pomaks
@polha4966
@polha4966 Ай бұрын
ils parlent pas comme les turcs! Leur langue maternelle est le pomak slav... la turquie les turkifie en les imposant d aller a l ecole ou la seule langue c est la langue turque
@pantheon56
@pantheon56 Ай бұрын
The Turks are making a huge effort to try to change their identity, but they will not succeed. Same for the rest of the Greek Muslims There is only a Muslim minority and never a Turkish minority as per the treaty of Laussane , and the Turks are cosiners to it!!! Pomaks and Roma live in the area, and they are proud Greek citizens as the rest of the Muslims!!
@bedrioktay7635
@bedrioktay7635 Ай бұрын
What about in Greece? Are they free to speak pomak ? That’s why Greeks are starving them that’s why they are isolated right 😂 , just stop with your propaganda
@yakupkeser248
@yakupkeser248 Ай бұрын
24.3.2024 In Etnos newspaper, Nikos Gianidis says, "Our identity is taken out of the garbage dump of history." In that garbage dump of history, there are also Hittites, etc. There is no one who denies ancient Greece. However, in his book in 1834, Jacob Philipp Fallmerayer also says that these so-called Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greece and are a Slavic state. Dr. Georgios Nakracas also says the same thing. Now Edi Rama and Macedonia are saying it openly... It is not possible to keep Greece alive with the Greeks remaining in history. Bulgarians are the first Turks to become Muslims. Pomaks and Çıtaks were Turks. 500 since There were Avar, Pecheneg, Bulgarian, Cuman-Kipchak and Uz Turks in the Balkans, Central Europe and Anatolia. Since there was no Islam, they became Orthodox.
@polha4966
@polha4966 Ай бұрын
@@yakupkeser248 it s funny how a turk who is just an islamized mix of different ethnicities through harems, devirsme and other abductions of persians, armenians, greeks, and other balkan people calls greeks non existants ahahaaa there are dna tests now adays to find out what you are go do one! I did and I came out majority greek. So no greeks did not vanished in thin air. On the other hand if you do a dna test you will have maybe at best only 5 per cent asian/central asia aka turkic
@polha4966
@polha4966 Ай бұрын
@@yakupkeser248 it s funny how a turk who is just an islamized mix of different ethnicities through harems, devirsme and other abductions of persians, armenians, greeks, and other balkan people calls greeks non existants ahahaaa there are dna tests now adays to find out what you are go do one! I did and I came out majority greek. So no greeks did not vanished in thin air. On the other hand if you do a dna test you will have maybe at best only 5 per cent asian/central asia aka turkic. Edi Rama is payed by you to say such nonsense. Edi Rama himself is half greek from his mum like erdogan is from his father
@tommiii4542
@tommiii4542 21 күн бұрын
Turkish propaganda claims they are Turks😂😂
@eliassmyrneos1247
@eliassmyrneos1247 Ай бұрын
Because you have your history wrong, the Bulger Bulgarians did not Christianize these people they were we’re already, from the second and third century A.D.! And the Bulgarian’s came to Christ through us, the Greeks Byzantines, OK is that clear??!!
@linaavramova3580
@linaavramova3580 18 күн бұрын
You'd better get your history right, lovely.There was never in the early history a region called Byzantium, this name was invented in modern times. The area in question was called Eastern Roman Empire . Question: What do Pomaks have to do with who took Christianity from who? Pointless thesis.
@mahoaga6626
@mahoaga6626 4 күн бұрын
Ce sont des turcs arrêtez d’inventer des histoires
@mitkodimitrov8396
@mitkodimitrov8396 8 күн бұрын
those all are bulgarians,forcefuly made muslims,what you speak.Pomak come,from bulgarian word помъчени,pomucheni,what you speack.Old Bulgarian Folk songs,from Rhodophe mountain not lie,as so called historians,mate.Tell the truth,my stara baba and baba died 100 years old,RIP,from Arda,uneducated,those are their relatives,just other religion two centuries before..Is not good to divide peoples,not many bulgarians left,religion dous not matter,we lose two other Bulgaria countries,this is last,oldest never change name country,wich give alfabet,literacy and old-church slavonic is old bulgarian,to many europian slavic nations.Say the truth please.Healt and happynes
@miedgha9403
@miedgha9403 12 күн бұрын
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