The Prestige ~ Lost In Adaptation

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Dominic Noble

Dominic Noble

3 жыл бұрын

A comparison of The Prestige, the 2006 film by Christopher & Jonathan Nolan to the book its based on by Christopher Priest.
Christopher Priest's thoughts on the film: christopher-priest.co.uk/book...
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@UsagiOhkami
@UsagiOhkami 3 жыл бұрын
"Alfred and Black Widow hope there might be an end to their fighting, but seeing Batman having the happy family life he feels was denied to him, Wolverine continues to spy on his his former friend." BEST! Also, literally how I once explained this movie to my dad.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 3 жыл бұрын
We gotta make our Marvel & DC jokes 😂
@dylantennant6594
@dylantennant6594 3 жыл бұрын
And Jared from Labrynth with help from Gollem builds a tele-porter.
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 3 жыл бұрын
@@dylantennant6594 Jareth* and Gollum*
@dylantennant6594
@dylantennant6594 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry.
@Antropologopt
@Antropologopt 3 жыл бұрын
I lost it here. But it is so good!
@Carewolf
@Carewolf 3 жыл бұрын
The film had a scene where somebody tells the lead that drowning is painless and like "returning to the womb". A white lie to console him after the death of his fiance. I assume that is the lampshading as to why he thought that was an acceptable way to die.
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 3 жыл бұрын
And his probably lying to himself that it's true since anyone with common sense should know that drowning is a horrible experience.
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 3 жыл бұрын
Cutter: I once told you about a salior who described drowning to me. Robert Angier: Yes, he said it was like going home. Cutter: I was lying. He said it was agony. Something like that
@PatheticApathetic
@PatheticApathetic 3 жыл бұрын
@Bakerhop yes
@Carewolf
@Carewolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@FFKonoko Yeah, that is the final counterreveal.
@whatername528
@whatername528 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly you could interpret it as him finding a way to punish himself for the death of his wife. Though I assume more unconsciously since he mostly blames Borden.
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 3 жыл бұрын
Nolan casting David Bowie as Tesla is one of those "so bizarre but I love it anyway" casting decisions that works better than it should.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 3 жыл бұрын
Bowie was truly perfect despite so little screen-time. His accent is even well done; I didn’t know Bowie’s work at the time I first saw the film. We lost a wonderful man when he died
@hollandscottthomas
@hollandscottthomas 3 жыл бұрын
@@LucyLioness100 Bowie was the first choice for the role that went to Jared Leto in Bladerunner 2049 as well, and for me his absence is the only thing holding it back from being a perfect film.
@YggdrasilAudio
@YggdrasilAudio 3 жыл бұрын
@@hollandscottthomas Huh, how about that. It may just be me, but I have genuine issues seeing him as a villain, so I'm not sure how I would feel about him playing Wallace. Great man anyways.
@CorporalAngua
@CorporalAngua 3 жыл бұрын
@@LucyLioness100 He was a wonderful casting choice, even though his illness made the cheekbones that made him resemble Tesla so much disappear. But his accent was not very good. That's not what a Serbo-Croatian speaker would sound like. We don't roll our Rs in the same way Russians do when they speak English and his Ts and Ds are too soft.
@daved2352
@daved2352 3 жыл бұрын
@@CorporalAngua His accent in the film sells him being vaguely foreign to us Brits and to Americans. I thinkthat's the case with most foreign accents in movies that are in reality miles from what they would really sound like. I always notice a bad british accent and it hits my ear like a hammer. (Discworld rules by the way. The turtle moves)
@jalapenoofjustice4682
@jalapenoofjustice4682 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like cloning is significantly more impressive than doing a good magic trick
@baszko6152
@baszko6152 3 жыл бұрын
lmao another movie only weridens. Creating dead bodies is not that impressive but living people?
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 3 жыл бұрын
And Nikola Tesla is apparently stupid enough to let something so groundbreaking be used as a stage trick.
@shawnwales696
@shawnwales696 3 жыл бұрын
It's not really cloning, which is a biological process, this was duplication.
@star3catcherSEQUEL
@star3catcherSEQUEL 3 жыл бұрын
Right? "Let me use this awesome thing to pretend to do this much lamer thing"
@imaginaryronin361
@imaginaryronin361 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Nintendo... Here's a new DS oh yeah, and I guess it has glasses-less 3D
@ckillgore
@ckillgore 3 жыл бұрын
When you started calling them "batman", "alfred", "black widow", and "wolverine", it made me laugh, but it also genuinely helped to keep track of the characters, as I don't remember their names in the film.
@gennybaratta2460
@gennybaratta2460 Жыл бұрын
Same
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana Жыл бұрын
ít kinda saves the story
@oakmedullaryrays8220
@oakmedullaryrays8220 7 ай бұрын
Lllllllllllllll😊😊😊
@samilois2967
@samilois2967 19 күн бұрын
I wish he had done the same thing when he summarized the book
@ReiyukaE
@ReiyukaE 3 жыл бұрын
One thing the book and movie have in common: horrible people doing horrible things because of ~*~ magic ~*~
@jliller
@jliller 3 жыл бұрын
Because they are consumed by their obsession, which stems from their careers as magicians.
@ramahan21
@ramahan21 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Shia Lebeouf doing a parody of Doug Henning in SNL lol
@locuas5601
@locuas5601 3 жыл бұрын
I would argue the difference is that in one of the versions the parties involve DO try to de-escalate the conflict. while on the other there is never really an attempt to do that.
@KitDivine
@KitDivine 3 жыл бұрын
@Mokarokas - Black Swan :D
@EternalKHFan0
@EternalKHFan0 3 жыл бұрын
@Reiyuka Mr. Bean: *snort snort*
@artemiswolf4508
@artemiswolf4508 3 жыл бұрын
I love how in the movie ScarJo’s character was like “You have to choose between me, the woman who cheated on you with the man who murder your wife and this book that’s the key to defeating your greatest enemy.” What was she expecting he would choose?!?
@Terminalsanity
@Terminalsanity 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair he would have done better to choose her anyway...
@haydenlux5027
@haydenlux5027 3 жыл бұрын
I think the scene is meant to illustrate that Angier is no longer concerned about living a happy life with a loving wife and family and instead has allowed his obsession to overtake him. After all in the beginning the rivalry was over his wife's death and seeing Borden with a wife and child(what he could have had) makes him so mad it prevents him from letting things go. But now he has a chance to have those things but his obsession prevents him from giving up the rivalry, showing the rivalry is no longer about the death of his wife and is now about his obsession and winning. Thus it is at this point that Angier becomes a monster and allows his obsession to take control of him. Like Angier says in the film "I don't care about my wife I care about his secret", it is at this point that we know those words to be true.
@Raktasdelespacio
@Raktasdelespacio 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the idea was for him to pick the book, which was a red herring.
@sleepbaby17
@sleepbaby17 3 жыл бұрын
@@haydenlux5027 I call b.s. on that. Border let his wife slip into depression and become suicidal all for the sake of maintaining a secret for just ONE magic trick. He could have revealed himself at any time to help in saving her and he didn't. That made him a "monster" to me. His own obsession was keeping that charade going for the sake of magic, and he had never answered for his own crime of aiding in the death of Angier's wife. The charade should have been over once a life was lost, but he kept it going because magic was more important. Neither one of them was morally superior to the other. There were both obsessed, selfish jerks willing to sacrifice the people the loved and cared about for magic.
@drartemisa21
@drartemisa21 3 жыл бұрын
@SweetPEAches69 Completely right.
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, when the Prestige came out the trailers were kind of vague. I think it was done that way to purposefully surprise the viewer with the twist, and for me it WORKED because I went in knowing nothing (years later even!) And I was like, "Oh my god... why are there so many hats... IS THIS A SCI FI MOVIE??" Unfortunately, I will never forgive it for not just one, but two unnecessary bird killings.
@jesmondsaunders7746
@jesmondsaunders7746 3 жыл бұрын
You exactly articulate my immediate hatred of the film for the bird killings. Once they crushed the canary, it was all over for me and made me a lifelong fan of its Hollywood as usual twin magic movie The Illusionist.
@Sleipnirseight
@Sleipnirseight 3 жыл бұрын
With you. Bird killings are always unforgivable 🐦
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sleipnirseight Also horse killings.
@stargate12
@stargate12 3 жыл бұрын
Something I find fascinating is the characters in the movie are really concerned about the birds, one theater owner declaring "I hope that bird will be unharmed". And the little boy crying about the dead bird and wondering about his brother. Nobody asked the same questions about the men and all of The originals that died drowning.
@blackbot7113
@blackbot7113 3 жыл бұрын
@@stargate12 Because nobody knew. That's the whole point. The only three people who knew we Angier (who was obsessed), Borden (who didn't care at that point because he killed the last one himself) and Cutter (who was horrified and immediately betrayed Angier).
@WitchApprentice
@WitchApprentice 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know that Angier duplicating and killing himself each time is a plot hole. I think it speaks to Angier's inability to share his life and the credit for his trick.
@AnEnemySpy456
@AnEnemySpy456 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like asking why an obsessive character doesn't simply do the logical thing kind misses the point.
@Limeyvip
@Limeyvip 3 жыл бұрын
yeah i've always interpreted that he thinks simply reusing his clone as a double isn't good enough, since he thinks it's too simple and not "real" magic to use a body double (recall that he really doesn't want to use the same trick as Borden). he NEEDS it to be "real" magic, and that's why he prefers to clone himself every single time. i don't know if this is what Nolan intended for us to think, but I'd chalk it up to "character making a supremely bad decision" rather than a plot hole.
@WitchApprentice
@WitchApprentice 3 жыл бұрын
@@Limeyvip yeah, that makes a lot of sense too
@WitchApprentice
@WitchApprentice 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnEnemySpy456 exactly what I was thinking
@rosemali3022
@rosemali3022 3 жыл бұрын
I think the plot hole is why is the other guy tried for murder and found guilty?
@crem-crem4070
@crem-crem4070 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like relaxing to a Dominic Noble “Lost in Adaptation” video while drinking some hot coco and being awed by his amazing hair ☺️ ☕️
@lillianv6805
@lillianv6805 3 жыл бұрын
Its like Sokka turned up to 11 !
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 3 жыл бұрын
@@lillianv6805 that's a new compliment!
@SoloJona
@SoloJona 3 жыл бұрын
It's a cold day today, I'm having some coffee during my work break, his voice is delicious, just like the slice of apple pie I'm eating
@CheshirePhrog
@CheshirePhrog 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't had my hair cut since March... Dom is making it look MUCH better than I am
@crem-crem4070
@crem-crem4070 3 жыл бұрын
@@CheshirePhrog and based on his responses to my hair related questions he’s doing it near effortlessly
@vanilloia7479
@vanilloia7479 3 жыл бұрын
i think the reason hugh jackman kept killing himself is that he knew that the double knew that they both couldn't stand the thought of not being in the spotlight for the Big Finish. sooner or later they would conflict, better to kill your clone before he gets you
@Peachu_n_Goma_Home
@Peachu_n_Goma_Home 3 жыл бұрын
He couldnt live with a double
@edisonlima4647
@edisonlima4647 3 жыл бұрын
But isn't the "original one" the one that is killed everytime?
@HS_Gomikubi
@HS_Gomikubi 3 жыл бұрын
This, though I think it's also worth mentioning that it was particularly Angier's experience with the drunkard actor that led him to this conclusion. In theory had it not been for that series of events he might have been able to function with a clone, not unlike the Borden twins. But he _tried_ living with a double, said double was full of shit and the cracks in that relationship were already starting to show even before Borden's sabotage added insult to injury at the end. His leg may have healed eventually after the literal fall, but his psyche never recovered from the humiliation. Angier was done trusting people from that point on, to the point where even looking in a mirror... He could only see the potential for a threat.
@ShinyAvalon
@ShinyAvalon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Peachu_n_Goma_Home - he couldn’t live with himself.
@vanilloia7479
@vanilloia7479 3 жыл бұрын
@@edisonlima4647 i always figured they both felt like the original. the clones must have all the memories of the original, how would you know which you are? it would make most sense for the copy to always be the one that appears somewhere else, but the "50/50"comment makes it seem like he didn't think about it in those terms.
@AdderMoray
@AdderMoray 3 жыл бұрын
It's not that there's a 50/50 chance which is teleported and which stays. It's that there is no way to know whether or not the machine is creating a clone in a remote location, or a teleporter that also creates duplicates. In other words, it's not that Angier doesn't know whether he'll be the one teleported. The man on stage simply doesn't know if he was the original or the clone.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 3 жыл бұрын
He even says that when dying
@FeepingCreature
@FeepingCreature 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, philosophically there is no such thing as "original" and "copy" to begin with.
@houseofaction
@houseofaction 8 ай бұрын
this is objectively wrong @@FeepingCreature
@FeepingCreature
@FeepingCreature 8 ай бұрын
​@@houseofaction Well fair enough. I guess I should say I am of the opinion that philosophically etc etc and also think that all the people who believe otherwise are some form of lunatics, a sentiment that is surely mutual.
@caitlinrix294
@caitlinrix294 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, finally, a good version of _The Greatest Show_ - _Murdered My Clone_ .
@pamsmith85
@pamsmith85 3 жыл бұрын
Years later and I still go, ‘wait, I thought Edward Norton was in this?!’ Ahh the 2000s, when we inexplicably got 2 different period dramas about the horrific relationship decisions of magicians.
@helenl3193
@helenl3193 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember being really disappointed half way through rewatching The Illusionist on tv because it suddenly dawned on me this wasn't the one with Bowie as Tesla! 🤦‍♀️
@Raktasdelespacio
@Raktasdelespacio 3 жыл бұрын
There is a looooong list of "Twin films" produced in Hollywood, it apparently has to do with espionage between studios (there are other theories but that one's the most fun), think Armageddon and Deep Impact, 27 Dresses and Made of Honor, Dante's Peak and Volcano, Small Foot and Abominable, just off the top of my head.
@moonjellymusic
@moonjellymusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raktasdelespacio Madagascar and The Wild, Antz and A Bug's Life
@GregBreden
@GregBreden 2 жыл бұрын
I love both these films. The Illusionist is a warmer more conventional film than The Prestige though. My mood would dictate which I would pick to watch on a particular day.
@ritzexists2201
@ritzexists2201 Жыл бұрын
@@moonjellymusic disney does so many of these... aladin was made to sabotage 2 different films (fern gully/ thief and the cobbler) the trailers to coco and kubo are very similar for no reason, descendants exists due to a feud with mattel and the ever after high dolls... these are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
@fredskull1618
@fredskull1618 3 жыл бұрын
Crap-adaptation or not, the movie’s plot always had more of a short-story vibe to it anyway. I’m glad the original novel is so different. Both stories hold up in different ways, like the Jurassic Park book & film.
@Florceleste28
@Florceleste28 3 жыл бұрын
Please, tell me there is an extended version of "Oh shit, I murdered my clone".
@Iiraka
@Iiraka 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@vampman87
@vampman87 3 жыл бұрын
I've been singing the song to myself all day.
@tovbyte
@tovbyte 3 жыл бұрын
I like your video, but let me explain the teleporter real quick: angier doesn’t know who the original is, because he’s aware that both the original and the copy would believe themselves to be the original. It is not that he thinks that there’s a 50/50 chance the original will die, but simply that he doesn’t know whether he is the original at all. And we don’t know either if it is the copy which is transported or the original.
@Regenmacher175
@Regenmacher175 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, one of the two shot the other originally because in that moment they would both believe to be the original but there is no way to know for certain. By the end of the film, you have who we know is the real Borden talking to someone who may or may not be a copy of the original Angier.
@ameliecarre4783
@ameliecarre4783 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the original the ones who stays where he was, and the copy the one who appears on the other side of the room ?
@tovbyte
@tovbyte 3 жыл бұрын
@Amelie Carré Well, we don’t exactly know. It’s never really specified. In the first scene, where Angier clones himself, the one appearing outside of the teleporter says “no I’m the real -“ right before he gets shot. This implies that he believed himself to be real. The one who stayed in the teleporter never comments on whether he’s the clone or not, but he said in the end “I never knew if I was gonna be the man in the box or the prestige”. This implies that he himself does not know if the original stays or is teleported. It makes sense actually that he would not know, since, if you cloned yourself one to one, both you and the clone would have all the same memories, experience and knowledge, you and the clone would “know” and remember to be the original one. Even though the clone just came to life, through all the memories he’d believe he’d lived a whole life before.
@ipodhty
@ipodhty 3 жыл бұрын
@@tovbyte what they say has nothing to do with it. Since the brains would be identical. But for the machine to work so they orginal changed places it would need to both teleport the orgial, then copy the orgial to the place or orginal stood. That would mean the machine would have to both be a telaporter and cloning machine at the same time. Feels like just a copier makes more sense
@tovbyte
@tovbyte 3 жыл бұрын
@@ipodhty First of all, I used what they said as proof, as a way of showing that both are unaware of who the real angier is, so I think it does have a lot to do with the topic. And, yes, their brains are the same, that’s exactly what I was trying to say (?). Now as for what this machine is capable of: again, it is never made explicit, so it could feasibly do anything, no matter what we think most sensible. For the machine, however, to leave the original in place, it would still need to materialise the copy and move these copies to a different place (since the copies can appear in a large radius around the machine). So it would still be somewhat of a teleportation device. It makes sense for it to be that as well, since it was the original intent of Tesla to make a teleporter. It could make a copy and teleport it, just as it could teleport the original and put in place a copy. My point is, we really don’t know. Neither does angier
@bru4773
@bru4773 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like showing up to a Lost in Adaptation when Ive never heard of the book OR the movie
@kimberlybogert-nemeth4760
@kimberlybogert-nemeth4760 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm I've heard of this movie years ago just not the book plus I was kid or teen when this came out..I think I can't remember completely.😅😌
@Caernath
@Caernath 3 жыл бұрын
Dom: “The Nolans spent five years rediscovering the three-act story structure... (sarcastic clap) bravo.”
@ourkeving
@ourkeving 3 жыл бұрын
Scathing!
@Lyendith
@Lyendith 3 жыл бұрын
Well, considering their love of convoluted plot structures, they might have needed that…
@grahamyoung2099
@grahamyoung2099 3 жыл бұрын
i mean, its a joke but the structure of The Prestige is actually pretty goddamn genius
@cthulhupthagn5771
@cthulhupthagn5771 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, thats a quote. Congrats. Do you have an original thought to make?
@FrenchToast663
@FrenchToast663 3 жыл бұрын
But the book doesn't have David Bowie in it, so...
@bananaboatcharlie
@bananaboatcharlie 3 жыл бұрын
The way I avoid the existential terror of wondering about the Star Trek transporters is to keep in mind the TNG episode where Barclay was shown to be conscious and aware throughout being transported. Sometimes that's the only thing letting me sleep at night....
@lovablesnowman
@lovablesnowman 3 жыл бұрын
I mean the ST transporters are actually explained several times. They disassemble your molecules and then reassemble them at the destination. There's no murder or duplication involved. Its just fans ignoring evidence and overthinking things to try to seem smart and get attention online
@bananaboatcharlie
@bananaboatcharlie 3 жыл бұрын
@@lovablesnowman *THAT'S WHAT THE DEEP FEDERATION WANTS YOU TO THINK*
@Belgand
@Belgand 3 жыл бұрын
@@lovablesnowman It still raises complex questions of "are the specific molecules that make you up, you?" along with how exactly they move the molecules and why being l breaking them down makes that easier. Not to mention when they occasionally make doubles or keep someone alive semi-indefinitely by "repeating their pattern" or such. Either way, I've always been with Barclay on this one. No way would I take that chance. It's almost certainly killing you.
@YggdrasilAudio
@YggdrasilAudio 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the teleportaion device in The Fly...and Before Watchmen.
@lovablesnowman
@lovablesnowman 3 жыл бұрын
@@Belgand just imagine it like the internet. You take the data (in this case a person or cargo or so on) and transport it to its destination. That Barclay episode goes into detail on how teleporters work.
@user-sj4ou6jc9u
@user-sj4ou6jc9u 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't even read half the books he talks about but I still watch all the videos lmao.
@HisameArtwork
@HisameArtwork 3 жыл бұрын
I'm more of a film fan as well.
@dobbyblue2462
@dobbyblue2462 3 жыл бұрын
For some videos I haven't even seen the film
@user-sj4ou6jc9u
@user-sj4ou6jc9u 3 жыл бұрын
@@dobbyblue2462 same
@dragonexe2297
@dragonexe2297 3 жыл бұрын
I personally always thought that Angier killed his double out of fear the other one would kill him. At the end, they are the same man in two bodies after all - and Angier was such a paranoid man who would do anything to come on top that he would never risk giving his double the chance to strike first. As always a really good Lost In Adaptation, even though The Prestige is one of my all-time favourite movies because of the well crafted, intelligent twist, the interesting main-characters who didn't start as one but slowly turn into monsters and the confusion which resolves at the end, but I can see that this is a question of preference and get your points. Oh, and I can only agree about the Hugh Jackman-point, this man makes the most horrible movie enjoyable.
@eamonndeane587
@eamonndeane587 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen The Fountain? He was riveting in that Especially in the Ending.
@dragonexe2297
@dragonexe2297 3 жыл бұрын
@@eamonndeane587 No, I haven't - but it's on my watchlist ^^ Is the movie good?
@MTG_Scribe
@MTG_Scribe 3 жыл бұрын
This was pretty much my read on it as well. He had no shortage of ego, and as soon as he had the thought that maybe he should kill the clone he knew that leaving them alive would mean they had the same thought. But with different life experiences from that point on he could never be sure the clone would choose not to kill him if he had the choice. So long as there was only one of him he would always get the praise he longed for so much that he couldn't even stand for listening to applause from off stage.
@eamonndeane587
@eamonndeane587 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragonexe2297 It's Disjointed, but beautiful and Emotional.
@TheAstip
@TheAstip 3 жыл бұрын
Also his problem was that he wasn't getting the applause - with the clone he still either had to be doing the trick or getting the appluase and I think he wanted to have his cake and eat it too
@SaiScribbles
@SaiScribbles 3 жыл бұрын
The prestige bodies thing is so much creepier! But I think I like the detail in the movie more of the wife noticing subtle differences between the twins and believing her husband had a mercurial personality.
@buttonsnrubbish
@buttonsnrubbish 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely in the "I didn't know that was a book!" collective. Guess I gotta add to my reading list :P
@celinahatton2653
@celinahatton2653 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know it was a book either. However, I also didn't know it was a movie 🤣
@bluebrdley
@bluebrdley 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Nolan likes to make his films metaphorical. For this one, the twins represent practical film effects and the duplication machine represents CGI. Nolan hates CGI. Why the movie is told out of order, the twins are assholes and the basic setup is different I have no idea.
@a_lethe_ion
@a_lethe_ion 3 жыл бұрын
Well, liking metaphors doesn't mean being able to use them very well
@alienboy1322
@alienboy1322 3 жыл бұрын
@Blue Bradley Nolan doesn't hate CGI really. He just feels there's a time to use it and not to use it.
@sharkofjoy
@sharkofjoy 3 жыл бұрын
@Blue Bradley Either this is the funniest joke I've read online today (I laughed quite hard) or you're serious and I'm sorry I said anything.
@rosemali3022
@rosemali3022 3 жыл бұрын
I also hate CGI
@det.bullock4461
@det.bullock4461 3 жыл бұрын
The twins are work-obsessed which is also a theme in his movies, that's probably why Batman appealed to him in the first place and the TDK trilogy, The Prestige and Inception all end with the protagonist abandoning their obsession with work to be with family.
@moonlady3000
@moonlady3000 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the movie, but I gotta day the book sounds way cooler.
@Katyamuffin
@Katyamuffin 3 жыл бұрын
I love both, but I have to warn the book is pretty long and does drag a bit at times. Also, it'll be less impressive now that you know all the plot-twists lol
@badoop7360
@badoop7360 3 жыл бұрын
It always feels like that watching lost in adaptation.
@christianemden7637
@christianemden7637 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I found the book less entertaining than the movie.
@inkwisitive
@inkwisitive 3 жыл бұрын
The book's pretty good - it should be noted that the author was impressed by the movie adaptation. He even said he wished some of the film changes were in the book (like Borden losing fingers from the botched bullet trick - the book had a section where the magicians sabotaged each other's shows, but that particular one was a Nolan creation and a great way to show how far the twins would go to commit to the act).
@AnEnemySpy456
@AnEnemySpy456 3 жыл бұрын
The Prestige is one of my all time favorite movies. I didn't really find the timeline hard to follow. There's basically just two timelines happening, Borden being in prison reading Angier's journal, and then the story of the feud which is primarily shown from Angiers' perspective. Both of them go in chronological order until the of one meets the beginning of the other.
@spawncampe
@spawncampe 10 ай бұрын
There's really three, b/c Angier's timeline is divided between before and during his visit with Tesla. While Borden's story is before he misleads Angier to go to Tesla and they have their back and forth, and his timeline in prison, but I agree it wasn't hard to follow and comes together nicely in the end
@DarthFennec
@DarthFennec 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't think the film succeeds in establishing why he was doing it. Once he had a perfect copy of himself, he had all of the means at his disposal to do the trick the same way as Borden." Really? I think it's pretty obvious why he doesn't do that. Borden grew up with his twin brother, they've been doing this forever and they trust each other with their lives, and that's why the trick works. Angier already tried hiring a double, and that backfired on him completely, and I think he knows himself well enough to realize that a copy of him would do a lot worse than that drunk actor ever did, put into the same situation. It's so much simpler for him to just pretend that he's jumping into a new body and disposing of the old one, without considering the implications. If he did anything other than what he ended up doing, I think it would be out of character.
@GAshoneybear
@GAshoneybear 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! When he said that, I was like, "Really? They spent 20 mintues on the Gerald Root scenario to establish why that exact solution WOULDN'T work!"
@Mark_LaCroix
@Mark_LaCroix Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this complaint really felt like a nitpicker not understanding that the movie is actually making the same point, that it's a stupid decision made because of a character flaw.
@biaclarissa4062
@biaclarissa4062 3 жыл бұрын
"You better forget all you heard about the film" Not hard considering the many twists and turns. I half expected one door to lead to Narnia.
@ArcaneEther
@ArcaneEther 3 жыл бұрын
"I have built a perfect cloning machine! We can use this to solve world hunger!" "Nope. I'm-a use it for a MAGIC SHOW!!"
@Condorito380
@Condorito380 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, going crazy hard in the paint in the direction of THE FUTURE!!! was kinda his thing.
@ShinyAvalon
@ShinyAvalon 3 жыл бұрын
No one in that movie was sensible enough to go there. The main characters had complexity addiction-“Probably get dizzy if they had to walk in a straight line.”
@ToastyJunebugs
@ToastyJunebugs 3 жыл бұрын
I read that as 'people will eat their clones' and was very concerned.
@Regenmacher175
@Regenmacher175 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you discovered the theme of the film which is that selfishness, pettiness and obsession end up trumping one's common sense and ultimately destroy one's chance at happiness.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
@@Regenmacher175 To be fair he does have enough sense to use it to "get rich quick"
@Kona696
@Kona696 3 жыл бұрын
Holding out hope for a new His Dark Materials lost in adaptation. The new show does a very good job following the books path from what I remember of it.
@ToastyJunebugs
@ToastyJunebugs 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I might actually watch it then. The movie made me so sad I didn't have the will to watch the show.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 3 жыл бұрын
I say just use the HBO series and ignore the loathed “Golden Compass” film
@paulaseabee8442
@paulaseabee8442 3 жыл бұрын
At the end - the reveal of the 'doubling' - I took away the feeling that Angier willingly risked death each time as a penance for the death of his wife, even though Borden was, sort of, responsible. Hence the drop being into a similar water tank.
@Lazarus1095
@Lazarus1095 3 жыл бұрын
My conclusion from the ending of the movie was that, by stating "I don't care about my wife", Angier was proving once and for all that he was NOT the Angier from the start of the movie, and had not been for a very long time. He was an imperfect clone, and his descent into madness and evil was the direct consequence of him relentlessly copying himself over and over. In support of that- the very first Angier who died- the original- never intended to get killed. The gun was always a precaution, and he was just unlucky that his first ever clone got to it and killed him with it first. All the dead Angiers from afterward were the clones replicating and killing their predecessors.
@haydenlux5027
@haydenlux5027 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting interpretation but I'm not sure if it's right or at least it's not how I would look at it. Yes, the Angier at the end is not the same Angier that we first meet but to assume that his madness and evil are a result of the cloning is wrong. By the time he clones himself Angier has already shot Borden, nearly buried one of them alive, and most telling of all gave up a chance at happiness and a family with Scarlet Johansson to pursue Borden's trick. What turns Angier evil is not the cloning but his descent into obsession and this obsession is also what destroys him. A lot of the themes and dangers of obsession are outlined in the movie by Tesla and like Tesla said his obsession did destroy him.
@merchantfan
@merchantfan 3 жыл бұрын
@@haydenlux5027 Yeah- I like that it's similar to the teleportation conundrum - we don't really know if there's a 50% chance of either getting through or if the original always goes in the tank and we don't know if Angier became increasingly evil as each clone replaced him or if killing his clones all those years was the act that made him more evil
@lfr8666
@lfr8666 3 жыл бұрын
So, like Transcription Errors from Crichton's Timeline, or other media positing that clones are somehow inferior. Not the conclusion I came to, but I can see it.
@katm8292
@katm8292 3 жыл бұрын
I think that, while that is possible, it’s also implied that by drowning the man on the stage Angier, in his own obsessive twisted way, punished himself for the death of his wife over and over and over again - because it was the exact same way she died, the exact same box. And Angier never really knew if the one dying would be the original or the clone (not because of a 50/50 chance of the machine working, but because not even he can tell wether the machine teleports a thing and creates a double in its place - or simply creates a double in a different place to begin with. Thus he might not even be able to tell if he’s the clone or the original anymore) so, for all he knew, what he did to the man on stage wasn’t murder, it was suicide. He punished himself in a similar way for his wife’s death right at the beginning of the Movie , too - when he almost drowned himself in his washing bowl right after his wife died , reliving what happened to her. (Which, interestingly enough, means he always knew what drowning was like despite Cutter‘s white lie)
@Lazarus1095
@Lazarus1095 3 жыл бұрын
@@katm8292 These are all valid points, but I wish to add one detail: Angiers's (Angiers's clone's?) claim that there was a 50/50 chance he'd be either the man on the stage or the man in the box is a delusion. Each Angiers went into the machine; then the machine copied him just before he fell into the box- meaning that from the new copy's perspective, he remembered getting into the machine, then he appeared on the stage. He never had the memory of landing in the box, because any given "he" carried only the memory of all the previous versions successfully appeared onstage. Every Angiers that ever went into the machine died in the box.
@AliceMarkley
@AliceMarkley 3 жыл бұрын
The Prestige is one of my favorite films of all time. And the reasons have to do with elements that Dom seems to have missed. This is one of those cases were I wish I could sit down with someone and have some tea and really have a respectful, wholesome, back-and-forth chat about our different perspectives. Alas.
@jordang7479
@jordang7479 3 жыл бұрын
Why is this tale of hubris, vengeance and souls ripped from the bodies of toddlers much easier to take in than finding out what Twilight was about?
@Olivia_Dreamrider
@Olivia_Dreamrider 3 жыл бұрын
because its Twilight
@bryt1040
@bryt1040 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really loved the whole one brother was in love with the wife and the other with the mistress thing, it explained a lot to me
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew the Prestige was considered Nolan's "worst" movie. Personally I prefer it over a whole bunch of his other ones because all the misdirection and questioning fit the tone of two Victorian magicians trying to outdo each other.
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 3 жыл бұрын
It’s better than “Interstellar”; that movie is okay but still not the best
@Tomwithnonumbers
@Tomwithnonumbers 3 жыл бұрын
The Prestige isn't considered their worst film, it's the favourite film of s lot of film critics (and myself, maybe tied with Memento)
@Belgand
@Belgand 3 жыл бұрын
It's one of his better films. I'd put his remake of Insomnia as his worst. That was especially disappointing after he shot to notability with Memento. Having not yet seen Following it made him feel like he might be a one-hit wonder.
@dragonexe2297
@dragonexe2297 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that isn't really the case. In connection to The Prestige I hear things like 'forgotten gem' much more than it is Nolans worst movie - what is also my own opinion, it would be my favourite movie from him if Inception didn't exist.
@tardifan
@tardifan 3 жыл бұрын
Imo The Prestige is his best its one of the handful of films out of the hundreds Ive seen Id call a masterpiece. And also imo the second best film from the 2000s. (The best being Pan's Labyrinth)
@lukesewell8294
@lukesewell8294 3 жыл бұрын
“Are you watching closely?”
@Darkbloom006
@Darkbloom006 3 жыл бұрын
At his blue nails? Yes.
@teatoohotouch7452
@teatoohotouch7452 3 жыл бұрын
another thing I can only read in Philosophy Tube's voice
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 3 жыл бұрын
In a twist that rarely gets brought up, no matter how it's defined the original Angier is dead before the end of the movie. In his first test of the machine, the "original" shoots the "copy". In all subsequent tricks, the "original" is drowned and the "copy" lives on.
@Regenmacher175
@Regenmacher175 3 жыл бұрын
They are just copies copying each other and then subsequently killing each other whilst believing they were the originals.
@Matrim42
@Matrim42 3 жыл бұрын
It’s entirely possible that the concept of “original” doesn’t even apply. We have no way of knowing if the machine sends a copy to the destination, leaves a copy at the source, destroys the original and creates two copies, or the original undergoes a sort of “reality fission” and splits into two so that both are effectively original.
@thevoidlookspretty7079
@thevoidlookspretty7079 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that Tesla was an attempted wild goose chase. I thought that Tesla was actually the answer, and that the twin brother was a teleportation-created clone.
@ShinyAvalon
@ShinyAvalon 3 жыл бұрын
That actually would have been kind of cool.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 3 жыл бұрын
but if that was the case Borden would've known from the beginnign what his rival was doing and be better prepared to deal with him
@Nassifeh
@Nassifeh 3 жыл бұрын
​@@sarafontanini7051 By that logic: How does Angier never guess that there could be two living Bordens despite having a cloning machine? It goes both ways. Angier never guesses because he can't conceive of allowing a copy to continue to exist. The Bordens, to me, make more sense as an original and a clone who assume that Angier's not using their trick because there's no sign of a second living Angier in disguise. They can't conceive that Angier's trick is just a chain of suicides because it's insane. The idea that Tesla just coincidentally had invented cloning and Borden already had a twin doesn't make sense to me.
@Nassifeh
@Nassifeh 3 жыл бұрын
Not saying that's canon btw, it's just a far more efficient use of the story elements and I think the book suffers if it rules it out more conclusively than the movie does.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is interesting how well this works if you somehow miss how shocked Borden is that Angier can do the trick now.
@jacobparrish4486
@jacobparrish4486 3 жыл бұрын
I always love the ‘in name only’ episodes
@larrytheemu5640
@larrytheemu5640 3 жыл бұрын
A few points most miss about the movie: - the section with Tesla is only "shown" in the diary left to Borden in the prison - same for the duplication machine working - we only ever really see one body in end - it might all be a trick
@sharkofjoy
@sharkofjoy 3 жыл бұрын
yeah I thought this was the "twist" ending...... I remember being a dumb college student and arguing about it!
@JebeckyGranjola
@JebeckyGranjola 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the whole narrative of the film goes against that, so what would be the point? Like what if Harry Potter was actually the bad guy and it was just his POV? That would add nothing to the message of the story
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 3 жыл бұрын
It is all a trick. The movie itself is a magic trick (very meta).
@JebeckyGranjola
@JebeckyGranjola 3 жыл бұрын
@Tracey Brown Yeah, I get it. I just think that is really dumb and lazy. I don't care about the story or the characters if they are just props to make an unrelated point. Orson Wells' F For Fake is about how movies are made, and how making people see what you want them to can entertain, educate or be used to manipulate and take advantage. It's a great point that doesn't require telling an incoherent story and then coping out: It's a metaphor, you just don't get it, man.
@blackbot7113
@blackbot7113 3 жыл бұрын
We see the bodies at the end though. We see the body in the morgue. Even if the machine didn't work, he somehow created multiple duplicate corpses of himself. That's one hell of a trick.
@hollygeisinger8783
@hollygeisinger8783 2 жыл бұрын
This is both one of my favorite films and novels. I look at them as you excellent and different entities. The ending of the novel was unexpectedly chilling. I didn't interpret it quite the same way. I thought Angier teleported back into his husk body successfully, and the resulting merger made him immortal. I don't recall him still being translucent, though I might have missed that detail. I also think the telepathic link between Nickie and his "twin" was severed because he reclaimed the body. I don't think they need to stay in contact to continue it . He is at peace. I thought your question of the film's plot hole regarding why Angier didn't just use one clone was interesting. The conclusion I came to is that he always refused to believe Borden used a double, so he had to do it in a way he found superior . Using a clone regularly would be "too easy". I also think the brilliance of the film twist actually goes back to the opening lines. You don't want to figure it out. You want to be fooled. Both Borden torturing his loved ones with his split life and the notion of Angier constantly murdering himself are fairly awful truths you don't want to accept as an audience. The ending honestly always gives me chills. When it comes to Christian Bale's accent, I have noticed it is much more aggressive in one twin. I refer to them as Alfred (the husband) and Freddie (the lover). Freddie's accent is more prominent. I think it showed a nuance in Christian Bale's performance only really seen during a rewatch. It is my personal favorite of Nolan's films, but that's just my opinion. I literally don't know anyone else who read the book. I enjoyed this greatly. Also the ending song was hilarious. This and The Greatest Showman are my two favorite Hugh Jackman films. I really got a kick out of it . Thank you.
@floppsymoppsy5969
@floppsymoppsy5969 3 жыл бұрын
I LOOOOOVED David Bowie's performance in this movie!!!
@weaselchan8309
@weaselchan8309 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all take a moment and just stare at Dom's hair and pretty blue nails?! This man keeps becoming more beautiful as time goes on! ♡♡♡
@gothicmuffinofdoom
@gothicmuffinofdoom 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for someone to mention the blue nails :D
@timothyburbage
@timothyburbage Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this with my mum and at the end she asked "So Hugh Jackman wasn't the good guy?" Just his natural charisma completely shaped how she watched the film
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Christopher Nolan film. I was so annoyed at my mom making me go at the time (I was 12, not yet 13), but quickly changed my tune once I saw the film. I’ve finally figured out the Nolans’s clues to the final twist after 14 years thanks to multiple viewings.
@grumpyotter
@grumpyotter 3 жыл бұрын
You should do the Exorcist. There's LOTS of material and a very strong ending difference-the movie leaves you knowing the demon exists while the book leaves it unclear. I love the book-it is a great psychological study.
@AberforthSmo
@AberforthSmo 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite movies of all time, now I know there's a book to go with it. Know what I'm asking for Christmas now! EDIT: 2 minutes later: Oh.
@anderkid1090
@anderkid1090 3 жыл бұрын
RIP
@konnyboy9337
@konnyboy9337 3 жыл бұрын
yup I just had the same emotionaljourney XD
@Florceleste28
@Florceleste28 3 жыл бұрын
You can still enjoing both of them. Don´t let one opinion radically change the way you feel about something.
@nadjakari1752
@nadjakari1752 3 жыл бұрын
I just loooove this movie so much! I’m at the beginning of this video though! I’m scared of what’s coming! Hehehe
@helenl3193
@helenl3193 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem when I discovered there was a book that inspired Blade Runner (from the film's credits on a rewatch when I bought it on VHS - yes, I'm old). Thankfully I read it, fell in love with it, but my brain immediately decided they were completely separate and different entities and that was all good. Hopefully you can do the same here :) 🤞
@shikuthetempest
@shikuthetempest 3 жыл бұрын
That shade of blue on your nails is so pretty I can't stop looking at them.
@Dominic-Noble
@Dominic-Noble 3 жыл бұрын
Christopher Priest's thoughts on the film: christopher-priest.co.uk/books/the-prestige/the-prestige-film
@Piti_Pingu
@Piti_Pingu 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding them ^v^
@DesdemonaDreadless
@DesdemonaDreadless 3 жыл бұрын
To add a bit of intrigue. Christopher Nolan is a total dick and actually worked against having re-releases of the book come out before the film, because he didn't want audiences to compare the two and reading the book first. (Thus making sure the author made less money than he probably would have) it's common that the book is re released during the time leading up to the movie As we were told during a convention some 13 years back or so, not long after the movie was released. So your comment about them being lucky the two aren't compared. Well, Christopher Nolan made a concerted effort that that didn't happen, thus losing Priest a bunch of money. Priest admitted all this during a panel. So he is probably somewhat to blame for the book being so unknown compared to the film. He made sure there was no promo and people didn't know.
@ebonimccain6988
@ebonimccain6988 3 жыл бұрын
Oof Btw love your nails, it provides a nice pop of color without being distracting.
@markchapman6800
@markchapman6800 3 жыл бұрын
" _The sound level_ . Nolan encouraged his actors to whisper many of their exchanges. This was particularly so in the final scene, when Bale and Jackman were explaining the twist ending to each other." I hated that about _Interstellar_ too.
@Raktasdelespacio
@Raktasdelespacio 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished the book and came back for the second part of the video! I have to say I really don't understand why you despise Borden so much in favour of Angier, both seem pretty douchy and the retelling didn't seem to change much of anyone's character really. Your critique of the theme change in the movie is on-point.
@Lunictd
@Lunictd 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't read the book, but what I got from the "alignment" of the characters in the film is that both of them were consumed by their "magical" d-measuring contest and ended up worse because of it. It's not a story about a hero and an antagonist, it's a story about people doing terrible things for petty reasons (except the "killing Angier's wife just for a flex" part) and being obsessed with their art to the point of ruining everything good in their and each other's life. The book sounds interesting as well! And that's my ammunition to fight the Great Old Algorithm. Take care, say safe, keep up the great work!
@shadowoflotus
@shadowoflotus 3 жыл бұрын
Dominic, ffs, here I was browsing yt for what must've felt like an hour, with nothing to watch. Then your video pops up and I'm like "Lord, bless this man for saving my Friday night!" and yes, this IS my Friday night, this is Dec 2020!!
@cerisebiscuit51
@cerisebiscuit51 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early we still made Dom and Subs jokes 🧐
@lud3445
@lud3445 3 жыл бұрын
They are always there. In our subconscious
@artleitch
@artleitch 3 жыл бұрын
@@lud3445 But are they there? In his dom-conscious?
@lud3445
@lud3445 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, I've been distracted by the subconscious doing a triple back flip
@Carewolf
@Carewolf 3 жыл бұрын
Also sounds like a lot more than "in name only". A lot of the content are similar or identical, just with different framing and ending
@deet917
@deet917 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, but I don't think Dom has a not quite adaptation but not quite in name only moniker yet. Just seemed like Nolan took the key points of the plot and repackaged them poorly in light of the book.
@bethanymcmurtrey9542
@bethanymcmurtrey9542 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this book or film and listening to Dom describe them, I feel like I need a flowchart to keep up with both of them.
@eastlynburkholder3559
@eastlynburkholder3559 3 жыл бұрын
The movie is fun to watch.!
@lillianb8762
@lillianb8762 3 жыл бұрын
Listened to the audiobook of this one and... I admit, this is one I probably should have read the paper copy. The transitions were extra confusing in an audiobook format, I think. (That said, it was still a good book, as the retelling was a very effective reframing that made you realize just what a hellacious douce the first guy had been despite being the hero in his own telling. And the end... gah.)
@Raktasdelespacio
@Raktasdelespacio 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no, I got confused with Dom's summary, stopped half way through and decided I should listen to the audiobook. What is it so confusing about the transitions? Will knowing about it beforehand help me understand better? I could hardly get a copy of this in print (Not to mention the time to read it)...
@lillianb8762
@lillianb8762 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raktasdelespacio It's been a few years, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but... yeah, I think knowing about the transitions in advance may help. Dom mentions in the second half of the video about how abrupt the transitions are between POVs in the book. With a book, you can get to the end of a section, realize it's a new section, put it down a minute, and then start on a new POV. In an audiobook, it can be a bit more jarring.
@Raktasdelespacio
@Raktasdelespacio 3 жыл бұрын
@@lillianb8762 Oh Ok, then I'll just use a text file just to guide myself. I thought it was something like The curious incident of the dog in the night-time, that includes a few diagrams and drawings wich made those parts really confusing in audio format. Thx! I'll start it today and come back for the review!
@lillianb8762
@lillianb8762 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raktasdelespacio I listened to The Curious Incident too and loved that one! I felt like the distinctive narrative voice worked really well as an audiobook! YMMV :)
@Raktasdelespacio
@Raktasdelespacio 3 жыл бұрын
I just finished it! And honestly, for me the retelling didn't change much of any of the character's... well.. character. Neither of the two seemed very sympathetic, not in their own version nor the others, both seemed pretty disgusting by the end. I have to say I rather prefered the style of Borden's writing, and can't understand why Dominic despised him so much in favour of Angiers. Thank you for the headsup on the transitions. Oh, and I also loved The Curious Incident, I'm considering giving a hard copy to my brother as a gift, he's got Asperger's so I think he'd empathize.
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit! I murdered my clone! The book sounds interesting - probably worth a read even though I know what happens in it.
@avivagodfrey
@avivagodfrey 3 жыл бұрын
This might just be me (I've only seen the film once, and that was maaaany years ago now), but I remember having a distinct impression that the fella copying himself *wanted* do die, but didn't have the guts to do it himself. Every time he did the trick, half of him was hoping he would die. I have no idea how I came to that conclusion, but it was the one that's stuck with me all this time.
@vanilloia7479
@vanilloia7479 3 жыл бұрын
interesting :O I had the exact opposite impression, that he said "50/50" but since the copy wouldn't know it was a copy, he assumed he was lucky each time, because he was that arrogant.
@avivagodfrey
@avivagodfrey 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanilloia7479 I mean, that's entirely possible too. I think I saw this as a senior in high school? So flawed logic is highly probable. XD
@KiramidHead
@KiramidHead 3 жыл бұрын
I love the film, the book sounds more detailed and weirder, not necessarily better.
@lissaquon607
@lissaquon607 3 жыл бұрын
Yea - I actually am one of the five people that read the book apparently and yea. The book isn't "better" - its just different and honestly I wasnt a fan of it.
@GAshoneybear
@GAshoneybear 3 жыл бұрын
I've read the book as well. This is one of the few times where I genuinely enjoy the movie. The book was a strange read.
@ashoat2388
@ashoat2388 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you covered this story - I was struck by that cover shortly after it came out (they still use the same cover!) and grabbed it off the shelf. I remembered it as challenging, but also really enjoyable. The story might have required less changes as a short series like “Haunting of Hill House” rather than a movie.
@nadeen3157
@nadeen3157 3 жыл бұрын
Today in: media i didn't know was based on books
@tzeneth
@tzeneth 3 жыл бұрын
Well, arguably it was kind of based on a book :P
@absolite6
@absolite6 3 жыл бұрын
IRK, I was surprised. About the time I watched this movie, I'd also recently seen the movie 'The Illusionist'. I thought 'The Prestige' was ok, good cast and all, but I preferred 'The Illusionist' better.
@zofiamiedziejko1494
@zofiamiedziejko1494 3 жыл бұрын
"Reeks of succesful filmmakers believing they can improve on something without really thinking through the ramifications of certain changes." That's pretty ironic considering that the central conflict of the movie started with a succesful magician believing he can improve a trick without thinking through the ramifications of his change
@Drowninginantimatter
@Drowninginantimatter 3 жыл бұрын
7:20 I know this isn’t the point of the video but we’ve already got the answers to that question. In ‘Realm of Fear’ we see Barclay’s perspective as he maintains a constant stream of consciousness through a transport. If the pre-transport Barclays was disintegration we wouldn’t see his perspective as post-transport Barclay.
@PatheticApathetic
@PatheticApathetic 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but, I mean, if the transporters killed their occupants, no one would ever use them. It’s not worth dying to shave a few hours off your clone’s transportation time
@stareyedwitch
@stareyedwitch 3 жыл бұрын
So where do the transporter doubles come from? Alternate realities?
@lovablesnowman
@lovablesnowman 3 жыл бұрын
Also it's explicitly explained numerous times how transporters work. They disassemble your molecules then reassemble them at the destination. No murder or duplication involved. It's just fans overthinking things to get attention online
@ShinyAvalon
@ShinyAvalon 3 жыл бұрын
@@stareyedwitch - no, they use extra energy to create the extra matter.
@anna-flora999
@anna-flora999 3 жыл бұрын
@@PatheticApathetic why not? My clone would have all my memories, emotions, abilities... *everything*. It would be a perfect copy. Functionally me again. Why should I care that it technically kills me?
@josuegutierrez2774
@josuegutierrez2774 3 жыл бұрын
I really disagree with your take regarding the quality of the film, especially as I thought that the jumps in time really worked cinematically. I think that, having never read the book myself, that it sounds more detailed and expanded, that its just a bit of a different story and not necessarily a better one. I really enjoyed the video, though, and your explanations, so I'm more than happy to disagree on this one! Great job!
@IsaacWhittakerDakin
@IsaacWhittakerDakin 3 жыл бұрын
Christopher Nolan's underrated masterpiece!
@ayvi8850
@ayvi8850 3 жыл бұрын
The song at the end killed meeeee
@blueworldcomics7908
@blueworldcomics7908 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see how this was an "in name only", but I do appreciate your gripes with the adaptation.
@artemiswolf4508
@artemiswolf4508 3 жыл бұрын
Question: did they ever explain why two twins were sharing one life to begin with? He didn’t come up with the teleportation trick until later on, so why were two brothers sharing wives and misstresses to begin with.
@madisoncallihan2813
@madisoncallihan2813 3 жыл бұрын
He came up with it early on when he was still a magician apprentice. So way before he had "perfected" it and started using it and got married, so on.
@seanblack1320
@seanblack1320 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say how long this has been going on. We do know he was the one pointing out how the fish bowl trick was done and the devotion to it. It's possible this was his eureka moment while later working on the technicalities when he met his soon to be wife. It would make sense that they would start trying the double life that they'd have to live with forever before actually going through with the trick.
@rukh03
@rukh03 3 жыл бұрын
I don't remember if it was in the movie, but in the book, the magician that inspired the brothers was this old, bent man who hobbled around everywhere. His grand finale was to make a fishbowl with a live fish appear out of nowhere. The twins had found out that, to perform this trick, the magician kept the bowl pinned between his legs, under his robes for the entire performance. Then to keep anyone from figuring out his trick, he hobbled around, bent over everywhere else in his life, pretending to be weak & feeble for the sake of his craft.
@Cheesusful
@Cheesusful 3 жыл бұрын
@@rukh03 yeah it was in the movie
@ryanthemagician972
@ryanthemagician972 3 жыл бұрын
@@rukh03 The Magician in question is Ching Ling Foo, and yes that it in the film as well. I think the question is more about where the other twin came from. Were they estranged and he reached out to do the trick? Was he always there and if so where? I also found this a bit confusing thinking back on it.
@AliveIsAll_I_am
@AliveIsAll_I_am 2 жыл бұрын
So I actually watched this movie for the first time just recently because your review had me incredibly intrigued and unbelievably confused regarding the plot and who's who. I can summarize my experience in the following statements: 1. The nonlinear way of telling the story was actually not confusing and I felt it was pretty clear what happened and when by the end. I don't know if it was strictly necessary but at the end of the day I feel like it adds to the plot 2. I felt that the end message of the movie was actually pretty deep and it resonated with me quite a lot when the movie ended 3. I felt that having prior knowledge of the plot points via your review before watching the film has actually really enhanced my experience of watching the movie, so thanks
@zarinaa1135
@zarinaa1135 3 жыл бұрын
Gee, I wonder why two brothers who are devoted to their craft to such a huge extent that they lose their individuality and destroy themselves was an intriguing idea for protagonists to the Nolan Brothers. I can't imagine why.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
While this a humorous observation it is a bit presumptuous, no?
@zarinaa1135
@zarinaa1135 3 жыл бұрын
@@futurestoryteller That it is, but I feel confident in my assessment being accurate.
@HerHollyness
@HerHollyness 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused as to why this is an 'in name only' review when the film seems to hit most of the same plot beats as the book, from the way you described it. I haven't read it personally but your description makes it sound like, other than the framing device, almost everything from the book is in the film. The film may have changed the character's motivations slightly, but the plot is there. I mean, have I completely misunderstood your explanation of the plot here?
@AveryTalksAboutStuff
@AveryTalksAboutStuff 3 жыл бұрын
When the top hat comes out, you know it's gonna be good!
@bubblegum1366
@bubblegum1366 3 жыл бұрын
The ending song had me rolling. I love this movie, and knowing it's apparently a shit adaptation doesn't change that. I love The Greatest Showman too despite it being Problematique.
@luthientinuviel3883
@luthientinuviel3883 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I just like the Greatest Showman for the songs and fun dance numbers
@LucyLioness100
@LucyLioness100 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Nolans deliberately ignored the novel; The Prestige
@bubblegum1366
@bubblegum1366 3 жыл бұрын
@@luthientinuviel3883 It's a really good movie when viewed as pure fiction, divorced entirely from the terrifying human It's supposed to be portraying.
@LaurasBookBlog
@LaurasBookBlog 3 жыл бұрын
​@@bubblegum1366 See, I think it would be fine if it were a good musical, but it's a BAD musical (I will find out who was responsible for the staging of "This Is Me" and beat them with a copy of Filmmaking For Dummies) and that makes the historical reivisonism harder to stomach.
@roguemeteorite6778
@roguemeteorite6778 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaurasBookBlog Genuine question, what's wrong with the staging of This Is Me?
@damianfry2080
@damianfry2080 3 жыл бұрын
Wait ... He wrote short circuit?! Johnny 5 is Alive
@angelajohnsonkeys4199
@angelajohnsonkeys4199 3 жыл бұрын
🎵Who's Johnny? 🎶
@andresreydecastro
@andresreydecastro 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of has a thing for the magical properties of lightning.
@stephaniewilliams6756
@stephaniewilliams6756 3 жыл бұрын
Dom, you don't know how jazzed I get to see you upload a video! Reviews, Lost in Adaptation, anything! Keep up the cool work!
@katkat6678
@katkat6678 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does Dominic look extra handsome in this video
@FriendB
@FriendB 3 жыл бұрын
It might be the nails. They add a certain... je ne sais quoi
@carleeelizabeth
@carleeelizabeth 3 жыл бұрын
@@FriendB holy shit i just noticed the nails!
@desi1790
@desi1790 3 жыл бұрын
@@FriendB the hair looks really good too
@marooned_space_princess
@marooned_space_princess 3 жыл бұрын
I just rewatched this movie last week and was reminded how great this movie it was at the time.
@oathkeeper65
@oathkeeper65 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a long time fan Dom. And I love the new stuff you've been doing. My favorite thing though is having Il Neige having little songs at the end of every episode. I've been an even longer fan of his and seeing him get so much stuff and content from working with yourself and other youtubers brings a smile to my face.
@crystals7882
@crystals7882 3 жыл бұрын
Always so excited when you post
@grape3964
@grape3964 3 жыл бұрын
Day 2 i want a very serious Dom talking about captain underpants
@fairystail1
@fairystail1 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSS!!!
@antina888
@antina888 3 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised that Mr. See My Movie in Theaters During a Pandemic Because That is the Only Correct Way to See It Nolan made the fanatic gatekeeper the hero. It was basically the 1880 magician version of himself.
@natthevamp1
@natthevamp1 3 жыл бұрын
hello dominic. i just wanted to say happy christmas and thank you for your channel. your reviews are really fun. i had a less than amazing day at work so i just sat down and started watching lost in adaptation and it cheered me right up. your work is brilliant so thank you for sharing your talent with the world.
@yardh
@yardh 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work and dedication. All the content is great 👍
@PunkPansy-
@PunkPansy- 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea this was even a book!
@Labinzel
@Labinzel 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently neither did the filmmakers!
@zakluck1686
@zakluck1686 3 жыл бұрын
My first time seeing a lost in adaptation as a subscriber when it first comes out.
@Labinzel
@Labinzel 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome! Make yourself at home and tell me what type of knife you like!😊
@69Yosiel69
@69Yosiel69 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the fold! It's truly a wonderful experience
@freman007
@freman007 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dom. Interesting as usual.
@brittbereading3450
@brittbereading3450 3 жыл бұрын
to everyone who's early too, I hope you are doing great! I hope you all enjoy the holidays despite the pandemic! Hope you all have many good books to read for the new year ^^
@evgenkhersonets880
@evgenkhersonets880 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, you think that this film is far from it's original? You should notice "Lucifer".
@allisonbergh4429
@allisonbergh4429 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone should notice Lucifer, just on principle. Even Neil Gaiman approves.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 3 жыл бұрын
@@allisonbergh4429 I approve.
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the TV show we're talking about because it absolutely baffles me. I watched half of season one and thought it was some of the worst TV I've ever seen.
@allisonbergh4429
@allisonbergh4429 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanyadolly To each their own, I guess. I envy you that you haven’t seen worse tv though. There’s a LOT out there.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanyadolly I found the overly campy style very amusing. It was a fresh take on the standard now boring TV cop mystery. I suppose the era of Munk and the like is over sadly.
@glitchythings4362
@glitchythings4362 3 жыл бұрын
The last time I was this early, the video had been posted 5 years ago and the Dom was having a mental breakdown.
@hollandscottthomas
@hollandscottthomas 3 жыл бұрын
Oh HELL YES! It's one of my favourite films (and definitely Nolan's best), and the book is a trip!
@yehiasaber3732
@yehiasaber3732 3 жыл бұрын
My god this is so complicated … hats off Dom for taking on such a BEAST of a story both book and adaptation and successfully deconstruct it ... Bravo !
@cr0-okedglasses814
@cr0-okedglasses814 3 жыл бұрын
May you do an episode on “The Breadwinner”? I love that movie and books.
@someonewithaphone3108
@someonewithaphone3108 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know there's a book!
@JulianGreystoke
@JulianGreystoke 3 жыл бұрын
Would 1000% watch the camp musical version of the prestige
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
What are the odds?
@Sorwolf
@Sorwolf 3 жыл бұрын
wait, the Prestige was based on a boo... aaand he just mentioned what I was about to ask
@jordang7479
@jordang7479 3 жыл бұрын
had a cool idea because of the movie novelizations. A reverse Lost in Adaptation where you compare books to the movies they were based on. (I lowkey want a way to see what you think of eXistenZ. It's a fav of mine.)
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he should do that with the Godfather! Nah, I'm kidding, of course I know that was a book first, but in all seriousness I didn't even recognize the bizarre inversion of the Dom talking about an author who does movie-to-book adaptations, and it's easy to forget that they even exist.
@Kahtini
@Kahtini 3 жыл бұрын
Love the nails.
@grumpyoldman3458
@grumpyoldman3458 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else want him to paint them the same shade of green as the screen?
@JamesCorp
@JamesCorp 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Bowie being Tesla in this film. Also love the colour you used on your finger nails, what colour was the it?
@Nanabbi_
@Nanabbi_ 3 жыл бұрын
For some reasons seeing his painted nails made me stupidly happy. I squeaked and smiled for ten minutes straight. 💙💙💙
@annoyedkitten4964
@annoyedkitten4964 3 жыл бұрын
But the blue just clashes with the rest of the outfit.
@Piti_Pingu
@Piti_Pingu 3 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot to link what Priest said about the movie ^^'
@D0MiN0ChAn
@D0MiN0ChAn 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I couldn't find the link either ☹️
@Piti_Pingu
@Piti_Pingu 3 жыл бұрын
@@D0MiN0ChAn He has put the link in now :3
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